What Happened to the Black Pearl from Kitchen Nightmares?

[@mermaidgrove6277]

*Update So I just realized that I forgot to add a link to David's music, woops my bad. I always forget at least one thing. Anyways here's his album "The Quickening" if you're curious: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4Wzg4l6ft19nKM Interestingly, I checked the younger David Leonard's youtube channel again and the album isn't listed in his playlists anymore. The album is now listed under "David Alan - Topic", and some comments have said that the playlist wasn't actually younger David's and that youtube just stuck it there on his channel since they have the same name. I suggested that might be the case in the video, but honestly I thought that couldn't possibly be right since it 's kind of wild to just stick a random video on someone else's channel and make it look like it belongs to them. But I guess I was wrong. I guess the two Davids just happen to have the same name and are unrelated. Anyways, I just thought I would share that. Have a merry Christmas and stay safe.

[@danielmakesfood9664]

Plz give me a shoutout :D

[@danielmakesfood9664]

Plz give me a shoutout I even subscribe and even better have my notifications on for you :D

[@OrangeYTT]

@@danielmakesfood9664 why would he? You don't even make videos

[@smokesletsgo2374]

Wow if that's actually the same David Leonard, he's a hell of a lot better musician than restauranteur, that music is actually decent lol

[@carlkermode899]

@@smokesletsgo2374 Its fucking shite.

[@lukhw1n657]

The waiter who said that Gordon has a "Bullshit Detector" was actually dead on correct.

[@mx.viscera2247]

Dude had a bullshit detector detector

[@lukhw1n657]

@@mx.viscera2247 Nah he had a bullshit detector detector DETECTOR

[@EustaBAracer]

David just has a Bullshit Exhaust Port

[@Igotthis3011]

@@mx.viscera2247 no he is the bullshit detector

[@SolidSnake6864]

I agree completely, I analized his behaviour and David really strikes me as a person who really cares for no one but himself, he shows no respect for his Black Pearl Staff argues with his customers when they complain about the food's quality, and is really ungratefule for all the effort Gordon and the Black Pearl Staff put in to try to save it.

[@HoodieHorizon]

the fact that the letter calls him "gordo" and "gordy" should be a dead giveaway that it was David who wrote that

[@Souls_29]

It was also written a lot in 1 person and a first person view instead of multiple people and third person views

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

The more we learned about David after the restaurant closed, the more it seemed like the show's editing actually did him a favour. The show just made him look arrogant and pompous, not the type of person who has hundreds of scrapbooks full of Gordon's photo with his eyes scratched out.

[@mrcritical6751]

David: *how dare he ruin my restaurant my pointing out what was wrong with it*

[@cyrilkhoury19]

That man was so salty he became the human equivalent of the Dead Sea.

[@Sarah_Gravydog316]

no, David is d-bag, who would have scrapbooks of photoshops of himself & Trump with crazy abs & hot babes around them... hilarious!

[@madbruv]

@@Sarah_Gravydog316 whats wrong with trump?

[@Fartsanchez]

@@madbruv a lot

[@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit]

What David seems to forget is that, if Gordon really did ruin his menu and their way of doing things was superior: they wouldn't be financially struggling to begin with.

[@bethanychatman9531]

Yep!

[@bend7726]

Or they wouldn't of even written to kitchen nightmares asking for help in the first place

[@thegadflygang5381]

I love Gordon No bigger fan, eaten at almost 30 of his restaurants but he has really screwed up some of these menus He turned a Vermont bed and breakfast into Thai food. The Black Pearl's was perfect in concept and Gordons suggestions were outdated Sacrilegious to a real lobster roll also He has 50 plus restaurants and something like 9 shows. Even back in 2010 he was busier than ever. He makes mistakes

[@Binks182]

Well ya Greg had money and actual stake in the business

[@prettyevil6662000]

@@thegadflygang5381 I'm totally willing to admit he's definitely made mistakes. But going back to what it was before isn't the way if you think Gordon made a mistake with yours. Instead, hire an expert and actually pay them to fix your menu. (But this place was already going under before the show arrived. They just wanted the publicity to help them sell it and it didn't work in their favor.)

[@TMan5636]

"Arrogance breeds negligence." But in David's case. "Arrogance breeds complete stupidity and blinded unreasonable hatred."

[@JJJackson777]

as i've got older i've realised arrogance & ignorance usually go hand in hand

[@Bagster321]

You can tell the letter was written only by David because a co-written letter does not really use “I”. It would mainly use “Our” and “We” in reference to the writers. So either the other owners signed on to it without much thought or….David put their names there without consent.

[@dharmallars]

Also of course he signed his name first

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Yeah, it's obviosly David. Who else?

[@AshbyDr]

The first 4 Paragraphs have We/Our but everything after that is I/My. The letter was at least started out with a facade of being a group effort and then the guy just couldn't keep himself from unloading his personal grievances and didn't even consider proof reading when he was finished to make sure it still read like it was from everyone.

[@Aaroncarter95]

Yea it says Gordy. Even before that it looked fishy but David called him that in the show.

[@DoctorDerpman]

I swear to god this fucking dude seems like he's a flat earther. He's got that same stubborn know it all type of attitude, and the fact that he is still saltier than his sandy ass oysters, really makes him give off those tiny pp vibes.

[@compatriot852]

I feel so bad for Greg. He's the only one who actually put effort and time into improving the restaurant while David and Brian just fucked around

[@margarethmichelina5146]

And funny enough, David tried so hard to humiliate Gordon by bringing his supposed affair but Gordon got the last laugh because he just got his new son 2 years ago named Oscar and then his daughter, Matilda / Tilly is the contestant of Strictly Come Dancing (The UK version of Dancing With The Stars) and she got 6th place this year and Gordon is still famous till these days. Meanwhile, David is just a member of the unknown band (probably an indie band) and he should be minding someone's business and his ex-employee, Steven is a succesful casting director.

[@richyc.6465]

@@margarethmichelina5146 well good to know that steven is doing well for himself

[@Aaroncarter95]

Yea it feels like the other 2 just wanted a restaurant to get easy money and had no idea what it required. In fact I know the second part is true.

[@harryyyyyyyyyyy7273]

@@margarethmichelina5146 No. Dancing with stars is the US version of Strictly

[@user-njyzcip]

@@margarethmichelina5146 it must be awkward to be in your teens and have a new sibling. Like you know your parents fked behind your back 🙈

[@Ori_Kohav]

2:40 - Really??? He thinks it's okay for a restaurant meal to have SAND?? That owner really is deluded. If I found sand in my dinner, that would be a massive red flag

[@eloquentpotato6435]

What does that mean?

[@dharmallars]

@@eloquentpotato6435 what?

[@matiaspereyra9392]

Imagine I serve you ANY animal and it kinda smells like pee and I go "well you know when you kill this animal the smell is there right? ALL NATURAL BABYYYYYY!!!!"

[@steamedhamlet]

Darth Vader wouldn't enjoy the food at this place

[@fiercingdragon]

@@eloquentpotato6435 would you really want to eat something that unexpectedly has sand in it? Yuck!

[@that_pan_chick8650]

“The show ruined our business.” “We couldn’t keep the business afloat until the episode aired.” 🤔 so either the show ruined you or the show didn’t come out in time to save you. Those are not the same thing even if they had the same ending.

[@mrcritical6751]

I guess you could argue that Gordon’s changes might have made the place look like a joke for those 4 days they were still open. He did have a big cheesy lobster mascot wander out into Times Square handing out fliers telling people to visit and I’m sure some people would have an issue with how cruel the claw machine was

[@IliumGaming]

They said it themselves they were planning on the free publicity, most likely wanted to sell out after and take off, but David couldn't resist being an unlikable prick and sunk his own scheme and got mad about it.

[@voids4818]

@@mrcritical6751that claw machine was so fucking abysmal, I can’t believe GR actually thought it was a good idea

[@kota2373]

@@mrcritical6751 frfr so cruel :( I want my lobsters to be treated in the most humane way before being thrown into a pot to be slowly boiled alive.

[@hatsoff4524]

The fact all of it was just for publicity was idiotic Like the hell kind of publicity do you want from Kitchen Nightmares, to look stupid?

[@youtube-rebel]

It most definitely was David writing that letter alone. If you notice, the letter keeps changing from third person (we) to first person (I). Kept saying things like “We did this” and then changing to “I wish that”. With the things said after the “I”, I am sure that was David, since the other 2 owners didn’t seem to be nearly as aggressive as David came close to.

[@phud69]

"The owners" also went on the stupid lobster rant again, which definitely also proves that it was all David

[@Technotoadnotafrog]

Sorry to nitpick, but "we" and "I" are both first person. "We" is first-person plural, and "I" is first-person singular. Third-person is things like "he", "she", and "they".

[@MissMoonshine69]

He did say in the letter that they cut out 'my' witty comebacks while referring to no one in particular

[@neryn9020]

ah yes, the tommy tallarico strategy. I bet his mom is also very proud of him.

[@dharmallars]

I think it’s so funny that the “owners” ie David insist that being on kitchen nightmares caused their business to fail, then also claim that the producers lied about the air date and pushed it back for months. So how could the bad publicity from the episode be the cause when nobody had even seen it yet? Lmao

[@absenceofwordz3828]

Man trying to gaslight and fails miserably

[@DravenGal]

Fair point!

[@tomvu1470]

@Shia Lebeouf: Life Coach More likely that those restaurants were in such a bad shape to begin with (financially, customer revenues-wise, etc.). Even a brand new restaurant WITHOUT any old baggage stands a good chance of 'going under' (tough business to get into).

[@wildagoat5227]

@Shia Lebeouf: Life Coach well u gotta look at the amount of shit the owners originally dug the,selves into. Some owners that were on the show literally have over 1million dollars of debt. Not to mention, what’s to prevent them from slacking off after Gordon leaves? Many of these episodes were posted much later than it was actually filmed so they had time to prove themselves and that they changed their ways. So it’s not really KN’s fault that much.

[@1987MartinT]

It's clear that David is just an arrogant, bumbling idiot who thinks he's a genius.

[@DR-420-69]

You hit the nail on the head with Maine vs Canadian lobster. Foodies can taste the difference and Maine lobster has a higher market price, so even if some folks can't really tell, there's an objective dollars and cents value they're lying about. If Maine lobster wasn't more valuable, to consumers, they wouldn't have lied.

[@riddell26]

Foodies can't tell the difference, it's like wine tasters. They're all just self absorbed people who talk out their ass to sound intelligent

[@soundrogue4472]

Canadian Lobster has no upper size limit, Maine lobster has an upper size limit; older males tend to be larger, the younger male lobsters are eaten. There is a difference when the age difference between the two lobsters for what you're eating. The other thing is the diet of the lobster and depending on what it's mostly eaten will affect it's taste.

[@thegadflygang5381]

Newfoundland and Prince Edward lobster is the best in my opinion although it is neglible between Maine. What you're missing isn't the taste Because I guarantee out of a 1000 people the only ones who could tell the difference upon being portioned/chopped into tail segments would only be doing it luckily Lobster pretty much is lobster. Age, size, time of molt effect things but otherwise try a Prince Edward lobster I guarantee you will love it

[@bajorekjon]

I'm glad Greg and Steven are doing well, they seem like genuinely nice people.

[@nickc6842]

Ha-ha. You're a kidder

[@thetea4093]

@@nickc6842 why?

[@Virjunior01]

I remember watching this on a binge maybe a year ago, and I was happy to see Steven was able to stay. He was a totally nice guy just doing the best he could with what he was given, but I hope he's getting paid more than slave wages.

[@Randomahh72]

@@thetea4093 That flew over your head, didn't it

[@Randomahh72]

@@nickc6842 My name's Steven by the way. If you need anything let me know, unless the food is bad then I don't want to know

[@lampini]

That closing letter is so bitter it’s beyond belief

[@mathiasstrom7790]

It is and it shows what David really is. A bitter person that will never be happy because he cannot be grateful and he cannot be happy for others

[@Chinothebad]

@@mathiasstrom7790 Also likely he doesn't want to admit to any screw ups and think anything he'd come up with was good.

[@Deleaubro]

If his food had half as much salt as his letter they might have survived a bit longer. Lol

[@Arrowtomahknee]

As a Mainer, I feel obligated to talk about whether or not we season lobster. The answer is, it's complicated. Maine Lobster isn't seasoned the way most other foods are seasoned. For a lobster boil, (lobster being boiled in a pot, then being served alongside butter sauce to dip, some people will add lemon or buttersauce to the water that the lobster is boiled in. Some others will add conventional spices and herbs, but traditionally it's just a bit of salt and butter. Once it's done being cooked you put it on a platter for everyone to dig into and enjoy. The only time Maine lobster is seasoned like other foods is usually when you are eating the tail meat in a fine dining setting. However I really dislike the way most places do Maine Lobster tail. As for David saying that Maine doesn't season our Lobster at all, he's he's dumbass who clearly has never had the fun of a lobster boil. Maine Lobster and Canadian Lobster are technically the same species, however the difference in environment causes a very noticeable change in taste. Honestly though if someone had me pay the price for a Maine Lobster for a Canadian Lobster, I'd freak out on them. That's like paying for Wagu Beef only to find out its local grocery store beef. Does it taste bad? No, not really, but it's not the same as the real thing. Considering Maine has the largest fishing industry in the entirety of the US, to pass off Canadian Lobster as Maine lobster is absolutely insulting to all of Maine. A reminder to all chefs, lobster and other crustaceans decompose very quickly after death, making the meat disgusting and poisonous depending on how long the lobster has been dead for. For the best tasting fresh lobster, keep them in a tank of saltwater that is filtered for bacteria and make sure to check on them daily. If one dies, it's meat will contaminate the water which all lobster are swimming through and eating the sediments of. Basically your fresh lobster will taste like the dead one real quick of you don't remove the dead lobster within a reasonable period. Also another tip, larger lobsters have tougher meat that tastes worse. Most people believe lobster are similar to other animals used for meat, in that the larger they are typically the better they taste. Well, lobster are the inverse. One at the lower end of the legal catching size will taste much better than one that is massive. Don't make the mistake of buying a very expensive, large lobster only to be disappointed with its flavor.

[@Bats4lawyer]

Your meat comparison made it click in my brain about the difference in Maine and Canadian lobster

[@majkas.3667]

Thank You for that comment.I was about to write it similary xD I triggered on that episode and im not an american, just a chef from Poland ;p

[@1996FordCrownVictoria]

As another Mainer, Yes.

[@CosmologicalCanvas]

Oooo I really want Maine lobster now.

[@mirrristalnce8746]

This comment is what i hoping to find here, so thank you!

[@jlorku]

I decided to look into the whole lobster situation and found this piece: "Due to the supply of Canadian lobster in U.S. markets, Maine lobster was certified as a Trade Assistance Product under the Trade Adjustment Assistance for Farmers Act (TAAF) in 2010". So Canadian lobster is just the lobster, and Maine lobster is Lobster ™. It also probably means that Maine lobster has different rules when it comes to selection and quality.

[@mrmagoo.3678]

Like buying Champagne from Australia Or Cornish Pasties from Zimbabwe French Mustard from Tibet I'm kinda enjoying this now tbh

[@Crocogator]

Yuppers. It also has prestige with the name, and is way more expensive. Overcharging AND false advertising. Oofa.

[@willemuil]

"lobster™" has me dying ffs xD

[@PeteofHartainia]

@@mrmagoo.3678 Can we just have Tibetan mustard? I'd buy a jar of that.

[@walesjedi9217]

this was in '07, though. I don't know how much that changes but it might be interesting to look into

[@think_of_a_storyboard3635]

As a person who is named David, I am taking this as a personal attack. I will see you in court, David from The Black Pearl.

[@danielmakesfood9664]

yamete KUDASAI

[@andrewlocke3389]

Hahahahahaha.

[@Stop_Gooning]

As your legal counsel I must advise you to hold further comments on this case until the details of my payment have been ironed out.

[@EustaBAracer]

Civil Case #:0000069420 David (the good one) v. David (the asshole one)

[@davidnguyen8914]

Me too

[@margarethmichelina5146]

The fact that David said Maine and Canadian Lobsters are the same just because those are lobsters is just like saying Toyota and Mitsubishi are the same just because those are cars

[@mrcritical6751]

It’s like saying palm and oak are the same just because they’re trees

[@armadildo6468]

Chihuahua and great dane are the same cause theyre both dogs

[@Cenentury0941]

Although, Mitsubishi and Toyota are the same thing. "Automobilus Japanus", it's the same species.

[@Zakrusta]

it's like saying Asians and Whites are the same just because they're humans

[@cyrilkhoury19]

Or like saying a Japanese person and a Chinese person are the same because they’re both Asian.

[@Topquark13]

David's life must have been miserable after Gordon ripped him a new one. You don't hold a grudge for twenty years for nothing. "You're soulless" can really hurt someone who is self centered.

[@F.R.E.D.D2986]

It really shows how childish he is. No normal person should hold a grudge, and especially for that long. I mean, it's okay to remember some of the insults, but not to be bitter about it. Like, I remember my first hate comment, but I don't think about everyday

[@thegadflygang5381]

David seems like a knob but I get it. He was humiliated by Gordon globally. I could see myself letting that stew in me forever as well Not sure if you are a man or woman but certain men are just built different. I call it honor but really it is ego

[@Kinikia95]

There's no way David won in the witty comebacks department. Gordon spots weaknesses and pounces right on them. Has the best insults.

[@stephenking8505]

Yeah but David called him Gordy so obviously he won 😂😂😂

[@jbearclowater]

My theory is David was so pissed about the changes because he knew he wanted to sell the restaurant and location off as soon as he could, and was mad because he thought the extra features would either devalue the place or limit who he could sell to.

[@IliumGaming]

100%

[@broissey]

The host/bartender Nigel (he has like one or two lines in this episode) ended up working the bar at a VERY iconic and expensive steak house in NYC. Saw him there a few times before the pandemic.

[@amiroyasarya6360]

That’s great for him!!!

[@RevofOne]

I wanted to see more from the other hostess. She had no lines and just in the background, but she was hot asf.

[@ChaoticJester]

​@@RevofOne Lol

[@RaynmanPlays]

David's the kind of guy to buy a bunch of Wal-Mart steaks and think he's eating Wagyu because it's the same animal.

[@levievil9220]

While technically they are the quality is definitely better than what Walmart sells never had A-5 beef want to but it’ll break my wallet just to buy enough for myself to enjoy

[@brawler5760]

David is one of the few owners that legitimately pissed me off. He’s one of the most self-centered bastards I’ve ever seen, and I cannot think of anyone else worse than him on this godforsaken show.

[@twilightdream]

Amy’s baking company also exists

[@strayiggytv]

@@twilightdream I dunno I kinda think David is worse. The Amy's baking thing was kinda proven to be a grift by them.

[@mrcritical6751]

@@strayiggytv it was? I just thought Amy was delusional

[@papayer]

@@strayiggytv 'a grift' sounds like Amy making shit up to save face.

[@octaviusroosevelt7355]

​@@papayerI think they meant that Amy and Sammy were basically running a scam with their business which, honestly, they kinda were.

[@mylatedroid101]

I love the fact rhay David made such a batshit insane quote and failed to realize that Gordon isn't English but Scottish.

[@matheusc.7614]

We all love Steven, best waiter in the whole series. Edit: Man, i'm so happy that Steven has a acting career, he deserves it.

[@theradicalreviewer6053]

Yes we stan

[@eyalinbar4845]

What was his name again? Michael?

[@rossjohnstone4689]

Amen to that :3 let's hope he's still doing well :3

[@solitudeguard2316]

Idk man, Sara is pretty powerful

[@morbidlyobeserobocop3038]

@@eyalinbar4845 I think it was Steven but after the third time reminding Gordon I could be wrong.

[@kaisaheikkila]

David didn't even try to make the letter sound as if it was written by all three owners. It is completely in singular first person and the language use is eerily similar to how David speaks... 🤔

[@dharmallars]

And the bit about all of his witty comebacks being edited out? Like who else would say that. Nobody else really fought with Ramsay.

[@CaptainPupu]

Not similar, IT IS exactly how he speaks

[@Deadman6]

@@CaptainPupu David is someone stupid who thinks they're clever.

[@fhuber7507]

All of the restaurants on Kitchen Nightmares were headed for bankruptcy before Gordon came in. Only restaurants that actually followed through on Gordon's advice recovered. In some cases, he was too late because they were too far in debt to recover even with Gordon's help.

[@bobana3105]

It's honestly sad. He put his time, money, physical and mental health into trying to help these (mostly) ungrateful people. No wonder he quit. I do wonder how much say Gordon had in which restaurants he'd try to help, compared to the Network's demands for drama.

[@greernelson7419]

@@bobana3105 this is why the British version is better imo. There's less drama and it's more about actually helping the restaurants.

[@bobana3105]

@@greernelson7419 I absolutely agree. I still enjoy the American version, however the UK feels a lot more intimate

[@Imperial_Navy03]

@@greernelson7419 two words: Momma sherri's

[@itzskir6832]

Its is nice seeing the resturants that he did help AND actually followed through with what he said are still doing good to this day such as Yannis and Lido

[@Irrelevantdrummer]

Good for Steven, the fact that he has an Emmy means he's killing it right now. Keep it up, brother!!

[@simonhui5638]

Wow he got an Emmy

[@soundrogue4472]

You do realize you have to pay a bid to even get the award right? The game is literally rigged.

[@TheTreegodfather]

A pitbull and a dashhound are both "Canis familiaris" too. But clearly very different from one another. So yes, it's very fair to say that Maine lobster which have very distinct characteristics are in fact not the same as Canadian lobsters.

[@liminalcriminal_]

Dogs are an exception since they were specifically bred for diverse purposes. No other animals are like that. Most animals’ species variation isn’t “very distinct characteristics”, it’s small things nobody would ever realize. I mean there’s other reasons why what this dude did was wrong, but that point is bad. Or at least the example you used. Some species have like an extra tooth or other crap like that

[@mrcritical6751]

The fact that the manager went to the reopening just to shit on the changes Gordon made is not only super petty but one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen

[@keyofallworlds7549]

Pretty sure Gordon said they were over charging for the lobster too since they were labeling it as “Maine”. While I’m no food expert, the Maine lobster’s popularity probably boosts its pricing or there might be a different handling process compared to Canadian. Plus the shipping and handling prices would for sure be different. Heck, if one is less available because of breeding or environmental factors, the scarcity could jack up the price too.

[@thedarkcat7484]

That's kind of it, yeah! It would be like charging someone for a purse and justifying the cost as "it's Gucci" then they open it up and it's Guess. And then you say "it's all Gs, who will know the difference?"

[@andriuhee2710]

Exactly. Plus, there can be a lot of differences even from two organisms of the same species! Take peppers for example; most of the peppers we eat are Capsicum Annuum. If I ordered some grilled sweet Italian peppers and received super spicy grilled bird's eye peppers because they're the same species, then I'd be pretty pissed off. David needs to go back to school lmao

[@Dragoon1809]

It's similar to what happens on Bar Rescue where the business uses off brand in premium bottles.

[@acemechanical275]

There is no difference.

[@EustaBAracer]

I mean, you cant advertise "Maine Lobster" if it didn't come from Maine. Cut and dry fraud.

[@MANYTHINGSNOTSOMANYTHINGS]

chef here, the lobsters would also taste different because of the food which lobsters would eat, also the cleanliness of water affects taste. A myriad of different factors affect the flavour of shellfish and molluscs. However the issue isn't the particular differences between the lobsters, the issue is a case of truth i menu. In the EU (not quoting US law cos god knows if there even is any) restaurants are under a legal obligation to be as truthful as possible when selling items to a customer. So whilst you could argue that if the menu says "Wexford Strawberries" even though the strawberries used in the dish are french and since they're both technically strawberries, and are the same product. The customer has been misled into purchasing a product which is not what they requested. Even if the lobsters from Canada were somehow atomically identical to the ones in Maine, the customers are paying for Maine lobster, not Canadian.

[@aaronchef82]

Qui’, Chef. Agreed

[@tovarischkrasnyjeshi]

In the US it doesn't matter if what's being sold is a style of preparation. A Chinese restaurant isn't lying if it sells Beijing Duck that isn't literally from Beijing, because it's about the way the duck is cooked, the sauces, veggies, and the rice. Same goes for a myriad of foods including pretty much everything Sichuan considering Sichuan peppercorns are illegal to import on ecological grounds. But a store here also isn't lying if it sells Wiener Schnitzel that isn't literally from Vienna, basically all that matters is a flattened cutlet that by default is veal is being sold. You want a New York Pizza in California? That's flat with few toppings made of the high quality local ingredients in the ag state of California, not a pizza flown in from New York. Americans lack the umpteen trillion city state cultural dishes of Europe so there's little incentive to protect every minor variation of a generalizable dish. In fact the immigrant nation thing means there's demand for style of preparation that can't be answered by restricting things to local foods or even exact recipes like how it works in the EU. And in general you shouldn't expect food from the other side of the planet to be anything but a style of preparation unless you want low quality frozen/dried ingredients marked up to pay for travel and tariffs or the high demand of certain locations. For most people this is undesireable and not even intuitive to desire, so it's considered unreasonable and not reflected in US law the way it is in the EU. I don't know Maine lobster. But if it's about the style of preparation - the cooking time, the balance of herbs and butter or the mayo and celery or whatever, or as the style of cuisine with lobster rolls and such - Ramsey was 100% in the wrong by American conventions.

[@Shenorai]

@@tovarischkrasnyjeshi Honestly, truth in advertising is more than important enough for a customer to determine whether or not they want to spend the extra couple bucks [or any money, for that matter] at that establishment. If you tell me the lobster comes from Canada, I would expect the lobster is sourced from Canada. If you tell me that a lobster roll is prepared in Maine style, that allows for a little more leeway regarding where the lobster actually came from, so long as it's prepared in a similar way that a Maine lobster roll would be prepared. Especially in today's economy with everything going on, where I spend my extra cash when I get it matters that much more to me. After all; if a restaurant can't even tell you the truth about what they are selling, why should you trust what is going on behind the closed doors of the kitchen? It might not be something that is directly affected by US law, but you can bet your bottom dollar that how things are presented up front can and will affect whether or not your customer base trusts your product enough to buy it.

[@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat]

@@tovarischkrasnyjeshi It's not about preparation though. It's like calling Australian waygu beef Kobe beef. They are both waygu but they are sourced from 2 different areas. Maine lobster and Canadian lobster are sources from 2 different areas and isn't a method of preparing or cooking. Lobsters caught in Maine fetch a high price than lobsters caught in Canada. Also Maine is in the US, and Canada is a different country. Maine lobster also fetches a higher price in Canada as well.

[@atodaso1668]

In that case the Canadian lobster would taste better since we have far better water

[@quietdreamer6190]

4:20 Legally even though they might be the “same” species they cannot be sold under another name, it’s outright illegal and it’s false advertisement

[@ActionJacksonForever]

There’s a website where you can check if the restaurants are still open, 90% of them sadly are closed. Gordon said he doesn’t do the show anymore because he’s tired of trying to help restaurants that are ultimately going to fail after he leaves.

[@MasoTrumoi]

You can't fix an autocracy run by an idiot. Gordon Ramsay doesn't buy out the restaurant and gift it to a better owner. Gordon doesn't democratize them into a staff-run co-op or something. All he does is give a facelift and suggestions to asinine dictators who need a multi-year course on how to manage something. The saddest example is Momma Cherri Soul Food Shack, but for a different reason. Momma Cherri is a fantastic chef and a wonderful person, but she didn't have business acumen to run a for-profit. When her restaurant closed she went back to what she did before: making food for the poor. The only thing that Gordon could've done to help her was pay her debts and give her a business course or a helpful partner. KN was never gonna save restaurants. It exists to profit off of them for our entertainment.

[@lonewolfcorbin]

@@MasoTrumoi mmm, i disagree. KN was never faked or anything like that. Yes, it was edited. However, KN for most, if not all of the owners in each and every episode could have been taken as either a wakeup call or a final nail. That's literally all it was to the owners PARTICIPATING. For viewers? Everything on FOX is and was for entertainment. Every single thing you see on TV except for the News (which is still... i won't even continue on that.) is for entertainment. But yes, most KN-restaurant owners were FAR too incompetent or blind to see their imperfections. Most of them were narcissists, lol.

[@ja-vishaara]

The Canadian lobster thing makes me laugh, because here in the Netherlands there's a type of herring called Hollandse nieuwe, which can only be named thus if it's caught in a certain timeframe. Even if it's the same species caught in the same place it can't be named that if it's not caught at the right time

[@piggypooo]

Do you mean caught at a certain age? Catching it at a certain time could easily mean say ,ie, catch the bird before your colonoscopy at 10 am

[@piggypooo]

Had to look this up. Very interesting! And sounds scrumptious!

[@CaptainPupu]

My brother, don't try to explain something like this to the Americans. They won't get it. Too complicated to them

[@SoulcatcherLucario]

@@CaptainPupu bruh he just asked a question lmao

[@quieteagle184]

@@piggypooo he meant, caught at a certain date. if i remember correctly, Hollandse Nieuwe is caught somewhere between june and august, if it's caught any other date, it's regular herring edit: so i just looked it up and it says Hollandse Nieuwe is caught between half may and juli (so around may 15th it starts). if it's not caught in that time period, it's called Hollandse Maatjes Haring (it's called that after 30 september)

[@RevolutionRicky]

If u remember from Steven in the revisited episode, the last check he got from the black pearl owners had bounced...David sounded like an egomaniac, he didn't appreciate what was given to him and treated his staff like like second class citizens

[@blkbrdmntrvimes6438]

What else would you expect from a jackwagon wannabe bond villain? Would've liked to see him get his arrogant face caved in by GR though.

[@StCreed]

Not just the black pearl. Every time I see waitresses having to strip to a bikini, you know they get paid whenever the owner feels like it.

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

I think the important part of Gordon's arguments of ripping off the customer regarding the lobster doesn't have anything to do with the actual taste, it's the fact that Maine Lobster is an actual official entity used by restaurants and companies for branding and pricing reasons. Titling something the "Maine Lobster" plate while serving Canadian is a clear cut scam regardless of the price, but just to add the layer of scum it's also being charged as if it were a Maine Lobster so it's just a rip off all around. The only way the "it tastes the same" argument flies is when you're telling the customer that you're getting the lobster cheaper and the customer is too, when you're charging the same as the expensive version and your excuse is "it tastes the same" you're just being a jackass.

[@SwissMarksman]

Nice FoG logo

[@bean_bttf3]

As a New Englander, I’m embarrassed how David spoke on behalf of our cuisine. It’s so much better than what he peddles. From New England clam chowder, to Maine lobster rolls, to Boston baked beans… it’s so good 👌🏻

[@imheretojest2826]

For all great cuisine, there are those who try to make pathetic simulacrums. It’s just the way of things I’m sure real New England food is very tasty tho :)

[@bean_bttf3]

@@imheretojest2826 Call me biased if you’d like, but I must say, here in New England food just hits different 👌🏻. Thanks for the comment! :D

[@aquaholicsme]

David is a New Yorker. He THINKS he's a New Englander. He's just a spoiled little boy in a man's body.

[@TeddGCM]

Chef Ramsey may be a hard critic that insults and yells at people, or it may just be a TV persona, who knows. That aside, the fact that he holds numerous Michelin Stars says he knows what he's doing. Those awards are not just given away and getting just one is a huge accomplishment, Chef Ramsey holds a total of 7! If I had a restaurant, and someone like Chef Ramsey gave me advise, you better believe I would take that to heart and do everything I could to follow it! Even if he yelled and insulted me while giving said advise.

[@Krensharpaw]

Well to make things even more ridicules for how people act towards Gordon. You have to basically ask for Gordon to come help. So basically, while you're smart enough to realize that he’s there to help and clearly you fucked up on something, most of these people seem unable to realize this. Why the fuck would you ask for help from someone who knows a thing or 2 about food. And them act like he's wrong when he tells you something is shit?

[@ladynikkie]

@@Krensharpaw pretty much it's a matter of pride, arrogance and ignorance for most of these owners. They say they want to help but they don't want the help which is stupid on their part that they would squander a once in a lifetime opportunity to get advice and help from a world-class chef and they don't realize it until it's way too late.

[@Gamer3427]

@@Krensharpaw Part of the problem is that they "want the help" but think the problem is something that has nothing to do with them. So the moment that he points out that they are, in fact, the problem, they get defensive and refuse to listen. Which, in most cases, the owner(s) are almost entirely at fault, or are at least complicit because they refuse to get rid of a problem employee, (usually the head chef).

[@alulia]

Don’t know if anyone else had said this but the difference between the two types of lobsters would be the terroir (tear-wah). Its something that happens in foods where the environment around them gives slight and distinct differences in flavors when eaten. Cheese is an easy example to site with this which is why some foods are “name-place-protected” meaning if it isn’t from a certain spot, you can’t call it that because the flavor is different. Best example is Gruyère cheese which if it is not made in a certain part of the Alps can not be called Gruyère. There was even a lawsuit when some people who made Gruyère parted ways with another and they both fought in court over which was the true Gruyère. When one side lost they were forced to change the name of their cheese even though the process was the same, but since they were in a different location in the alps, they could not use the name Gruyère. I don’t know if Maine lobster is name place protected but I imagine the situation is similar where the environment shapes how they taste.

[@MAXIMILLIONtheGREAT]

The stupid shit that happens when courts are involved... 🤦

[@k.v.7681]

@@MAXIMILLIONtheGREAT It's not that dumb. Those two varieties of gruyere, even if the process is the same, are not the same. Aging happens differently at various altitudes. Milk used for production changes depending on how the cows are fed. Grass pastures are different at various altitudes in the alps. Roquefort is more or less the same. you can't make Roquefort anywhere else than in Roquefort, because the caves where the cheese rests are pretty geologically unique and have an effect. With animals, it even applies to general living conditions. Two chickens of the same origin will have very different tastes if one is raised in a box while the other runs free outside for most of it's life.

[@WobblesandBean]

That's not really how it works when it comes to biology, though. It's nothing but marketing and people convincing themselves that things taste different based on where it came from, but in blind taste tests or ones where they are made to believe something came from X region even though it didn't, they will claim it tastes different from one they were told was not of that region, even though they're eating the exact same thing taken from the exact same source both times.

[@k.v.7681]

@@WobblesandBean It is exactly because of biology that the same species can have a different taste. If you feed your sheep exclusively with salt grass from low-tide sea-shores, the cheese and meat will have a different taste to products from the same species but fed from exclusively grass and hay from inland hills. In the same sense, a lobster that lives in a colder, deeper area will need a more resilient shell, to resist water pressure, while the other, living in warmer shallower waters can be more plump. If you drive your car everywhere, you can become plumper with soft feet, while the Kid in Nigeria that walks 20 miles a day to go to school will have leather for feet. You're not exactly a different species... The entire wine trade is built on that. With a dozen grape varieties ("species" if you will) we get hundreds of wines depending on soil composition and maturing process. There is however, a part of marketing indeed. The key is to sift trough what's pure marketing, and what's justified as a difference to be advertised.

[@tonymaurice4157]

Steak is steak whether it's from Scotland or Texas Gordon wouldn't know the difference either

[@MrXemrox]

Owners: Help we are struggling. Gorden: It's because you sell expired overcooked, some raw food with bad ingredients, you donkey. And decor is an eyesore. Owner: No, you're wrong, I wanted you to agree with me, I refuse to change from my current ways, that’s not what is damaging it, last customers who said my food was overcooked or undercooked I push them in the face. *Turns his ways was damaging the business and failed* Owners: How could Gorden do this to us?

[@Sethrb99]

I disagree with everyones claim that maine lobsters are gimmicks compared to canadian...it literally explains why they are more expensive, "due to water temperaratures the meat is sweeter and shell is softer" which means a sweeter meat thats easier to access! Yes its the "same creature" but if i was sold a chihuahua as a german shepherd id be pretty upset.

[@linhero797]

This is literally like arguing that Great Value Peanut Butter or Jif Peanut Butter are the same. Yes they are pretty much made the same way but GV does many MANY small different things then Jif that makes their Peanut Butter different. As it turns out. The numerous small differences matter a lot more then the 1 or 2 big similarities.

[@snaaaake59]

@@linhero797 🤦

[@missi44]

​@@linhero797jif is the worst peanut butter. Gv is better. Tho i prefer skippy

[@linhero797]

@@missi44 I do personally enjoy GV myself. But I am a cheap bastard who has no taste so I prefer everything GV over a name brand product.

[@gyroscope915]

I feel like David forgot half way through that letter was supposed to be pretending to be all three owners. He even says "My partners and i" Why would a letter written by all three owner say that?

[@FF-iz4su]

6:08 I remember there was an episode on Bar Rescue where an owner had this exact same machine in her bar which helped the business but apparently caused controversy in the local community

[@ArtsyHumanbean]

Steven was the hero all along and I’m so so happy to know he got out and made splashes in casting 💜

[@12345fowler]

The thing about the canadian and maine lobsters are not about finding scientific evidences about one beeing superior to the other, but the fact that obviously the one coming from Canada beeing far less fresh than the ones found locally. Freshness will do a huge difference in taste and savior.

[@ashleydavall]

I think the whole thing with bringing Steven back in the revisited episode, was that Steven seemed to have a bit of a soft spot for Gordon. So the revisited episode was almost like a lunch date for Steven and Gordon. It's funny, because we're used to seeing Gordon do lots of platonic flirting with the ladies (particularly older ladies), but it was amusing to see him do it with a young guy for once!

[@SakuraShirakawa]

The issue isn't Maine vs Canadian lobster, it is that by advertising Maine lobster implies that you are buying from and supporting Maine fishermen.

[@Zakrusta]

i might be wrong on this but i speculate on the music issue, David's music was just automatically added by KZbin Music into KZbin as "David Leonard - Topic". That usually happens because the music label David was part of has associations with KZbin Music and can easily upload his music to KZbin. When the other David Leonard came in and made an actual music channel, KZbin just automatically linked David's music to that channel and then you get that weird time machine album thingy.

[@Jadon.]

This.

[@Illusionyary]

Yeah this, I've seen this happen a few other times with artists with the same name.

[@EKIANandWolvesGaming]

Adum from YMS dealt with a similar problem where a guy was able to hijack his music channel

[@TooLooze]

I guessed the younger David just listened to the album out of curiosity, and YT added it to his playlist.

[@doges6467]

That whole letter… Your restaurant is already failing so you ask for help from one of the most well known chefs with tons of successful restaurants, then blame him when you fail despite saying you hate all his changes and immediately revert to what was causing you to fail in the first place. How can someone have this much lack of accountability

[@bra24hnt52]

It doesnt even matter if the lobster tastes different. Misrepresenting something is fraud, simple as that. Think of a wine, if you make some wine in Mexico, you think you can call this wine chateau margaux, just because you use the same grapes?

[@jaegermonster9549]

Very aptly worded.

[@Blackmongoose]

Here's a question for David. If there's no difference between a Maine lobster and a Canadian lobster then why is he even bothering to mention that it's Maine lobster?

[@geckokid8265]

Probably because it means he can charge more

[@theblackunicorn261]

"Gordon's food is greasy and unappetizing" My brother in christ you're the ones cooking it

[@ani989]

I love how the article starts off cordial, then turns into a David rant of how much he hates Gordon hahahah you can see him just getting caught up in it

[@RDG99]

Dayum! Steven going from a waiter to an award-winning casting director? Good on him!

[@lordwalker71]

David is the kind of guy who only likes something if it’s his idea. The restaurant was probably already too far gone financially for anything Gordon did would save the restaurant, also there wasn’t enough time between when the show aired and when the place closed for the show to have anything to do with it closing. Every restaurant claims their customers liked the old menu better yet the place was empty most of the time.

[@theblackcoat4615]

I like to imagine Ramsay responded to David‘s letter saying simply: Dear David, [BLEEP SOUND HERE] you. Yours truly, Gordon Ramsay.

[@alexandermarken7639]

As a chef I get pissed off when people decide not to source the proper product. Here in Australia we have some of the best Oysters in the world in Coffin Bay. Just recently the testing identified a slight problem that could have bad effects on customers, namely food poisoning due to bacteria. A complete stop on the Oysters until all of the problems got solved. The Oysters may be the same as others but the water and care makes a huge difference to quality.

[@marissadanielle2469]

I really enjoy this series of yours! I love Kitchen Nightmares and it's always super interesting to find out updates, and your delivery is very entertaining. Keep up the great work!

[@RobTheSquire]

It really does sound like David wrote the whole statement. Just look at how he calls Gordon "Gordo". When an award winning chef tries to help your restaurant after someone or yourself writes in for help, just don't be an arsehole David and remember the TRADE DESCRIPTION ACT...

[@arnold8746]

Damn, that guy is a goofball. As always actions speak louder than words. Ramsey started with nothing and has been awarded multiple Michelin stars, owns multiple successful restaurants and has a 9 figure net worth, while these three guys couldn't make one restaurant work.

[@Astradi]

Imagine if the amount of negative energy dedicated to the open letter was put into actually running the restaurant.

[@ash7324]

The waiter went on to win an Emmy, what a nice twist ❤

[@mattsquires2622]

You forgot to mention David's big burn when he called Gordon "Gordy"

[@asurasyn]

Funniest part? Like five minutes after Ramsay left, David sold the lobster claw machine and pocketed the money.

[@angelfahlife6000]

So glad to see Steven doing well he was genuinely so sweet he deserves the best

[@GuillaumeLeclerc]

Fun fact : we do get softer shelled lobster here in canada but don’t export it for obvious reasons. I get a crate each year from my tribe and they are sweet and delicious if not the meatiest. Most of the softshelled get eaten locally since they are much harder to transport alive.

[@DeeBraynt2010]

Seeing as how two of them were blatantly saying that they were going to change everything right back to how it was after Gordon left, I'm glad that the place is closed.

[@Mayo501]

You know what, I thought this was going to be one of those typical videos that just get pumped out by these random KZbin channels that just tell you what happened in the episode you could've just watched yourself. But I was wrong and I think you do really good research. You have definitely earned a sub from me and I think I will be binging these videos from now on.

[@enhasa5653]

David is so salty that the British were coming to invade lol.

[@BLR_travel]

I'm so happy for Steven! He definitely deserves the best ♥️ & I'm glad he's doing so well in life & killing it!

[@DawnsDeparture]

The smoking gun of that letter being David's was definitely it calling Gordon "Gordy".

[@kevinhixson1586]

7:20 the implication being either holding up the place, or shooting themselves was a better alternative.

[@xkryptnoticsx4354]

I live in Rhode island, me and a few friends went to the pearl 2 weeks before it aired on hells kitchen, the food was total crap, few days later we went back after it aired and to be honest the food was pretty good, I was surprised when one of my buddies told me it closed, wasn't surprised by this though.

[@danielmakesfood9664]

Which part of the island u live on?

[@OrangeYTT]

18:49 Yes, that channel is auto-generated by KZbin. It's technically for the Christian music guy but since he has the same name. They get put on the same channel. I've seen this a lot and they're probably not related.

[@theywood2240]

An episode to round off this awful year thank you 🙏

[@blacklight683]

14:12 gotta gun? Now makes even more sense my guy really going for the mifi theme(1:07)

[@spyr0guy]

I put this vid on in the background while playing Terraria to have something to listen to, and I tuned back in at 11:33 just to make sure you put the Joe Exotic meme in there. You did not disappoint.

[@wolfhex3233]

I thought that the issue with lobster was that different environments and possibly different food availability would cause a slight change in taste (I remember on some other gordon Ramsey show where you have to be careful cooking catfish because they eat mud and thus might affect the meat) There’s also probably a lot of protection and product traceability with having the correct name

[@bjbell52]

Salmon in Lake Michigan still have pollutants from a factory that was dumping its waste into the Lake. They state of Illinois have a warning that one should only one serving of Lake Michigan salmon a month. So yes, environment matters.

[@revivedkyoumahououin1585]

They closed after 4 days and the blame Ramsay? I smell bs. David is just playing the victim here.

[@kgrkid]

What you smelled was a #FakeMan trying to make himself look big, which failed miserably! David is a sorry ass excuse of a human being!

[@monicawatson2537]

I just dont understand why people are so negative and hateful like David. Like that has to make your life so so so much worse. Its clearly not making him any more rich or powerful.

[@mathiasstrom7790]

He is a narcissist. They are miserable, bitter people who needs to project their misery unto others to feel better about themselves. Side note I love how Gordon is a narcissists nightmare, he's confident, honest and kind and happy with himself and doesn't play their games. A thing David will never be

[@HarryStikers]

@@mathiasstrom7790 Not all narcissists are automatically bad people. I'm friends with a diagnosed narcissist and they've never treated me poorly or tried to put me down, quite the opposite.

[@RXdash78]

OK I listened to his album so you dind't have to. It contains such lyrical gems as "Golden diamonds they can learn to rust" "Crimson flam'e run through my ears" and of course "I was so much older then, I’m younger than that now." The whole thing is like some hyper generic dad rock that you would only hear the first 30 seconds of as part of the opening credits of the DVD version of some second tiers early 90s sitcom. And you only hear it because the springsteen or tragically hip song that was originally used is now too expensive and they whipped u a soundalike in 5 minutes. Also, that letter was all David. He kept calling Gordon ''gordy'' all through the episode in order to try and irritate him, but none of the other owners did.

[@Shenorai]

Wtf did I just read? XD Just... wow. I'm kinda glad I didn't get that curious about the music now.

[@feraltaco4783]

Just the way David walked in made me want to yeet him into the Shadow Realm.

[@TheFazer1992]

Was the diving book based on his experiences hunting Maine lobsters in Canada.

[@wazer2235]

Not a scientific answer but my father is a chef, we live in Rhode Island and has worked in multiple restaurants as head chef and owns his own place. I asked him about the lobsters and he said relatively the same thing as those sites. They're the same lobster, but they taste different. Suprisingly he said he prefers canadian lobster, but he can't eat it anymore cause he has developed an allergy to shellfish lol

[@boozehound5706]

When animals grow and live in different regions this could highly impact the taste, strength size etc of any animal. in different ecological zones there are different things that these animals will eat, and the water quality could affect the strength of the strength of the shell and/or general health of the animal.

[@brysonkuervers2570]

Same thing like 7 other comments said lol

[@frumpusnumpus]

5:07 Love how the one waiter, Steven looks so excited while Ramsey is in David's face 😂 And sheesh, that letter was disappointingly sad. And that is definitely David.

[@ctastrophe]

Obviously David wrote the letter - he alternates between "we" and "my" several times in the letter, and when it's "my" it's always used to make the letter-writer sound good.

[@MasterControl-MCP]

David is the sort of person you would hate to work for or with, be friends with, neighbours with, or enter into any kind of. Relationship both professional or personal with.

[@plasmafreeze3018]

What's crazy is yesterday I was re-watching one of your videos and I was thinking of this exact episode and wondering if you were going to cover it.. Thanks for telepathically taking my request lol

[@doperagu8471]

I absolutely love these "where are they now" for kitchen nightmares. I hope you keep making them!

[@TB-vz8xg]

Fun Fact: The Black Pearl's successor, Hog Pit NYC, was permanently shut down by the Health Department in 2014 after mice was discovered in the kitchen.

[@tekcomputers]

Interesting, the Restaurant you claim was "permanently shot down by the Health Department in 2014" was operating until 2020.

[@izzydro1031]

idk if you would ever consider it but it would be cool to see you cover the old UK episodes of the show. There is less over the top drama but still some good juicy moments. I think it would be cool to see the toned down version and what happened to the staffs this many years out. That may make it harder to find info it may also allow for some more in depth cool updates (not to say what you do isnt great). Plus it always seemed to me that Gordon got more time to help the businesses instead of the clearly formula of day1: show up and say foods gross, day2: observe a service and say it sucks, day3: mend fences and save bussiness that the US version has. Either way ill be enjoying your great content

[@msannethropp7497]

Could you do a review follow-up of Mrs Jean's Southern Cuisine? I think she is the only owner/manager I've seen who was somewhat sympathetic.

[@99fruitbat94]

Still open and doing well according to comments on another site

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

@@99fruitbat94 she did move location though

[@yungsanchez3997]

Love this channel

[@hopelessromantic3786]

Lemme tell you if you've ever eaten a Maine lobster vs a Canadian one you wouldn't need a scientist to tell you there's a serious quality difference. I don't know if it's the waters or what but the Maine lobster is just on a whole different level

[@brysonkuervers2570]

It is exactly because of the water that they taste different

[@eko4749]

He wrote the letter as if it were from all three but couldnt help saying defending himself looking like a fool on the episode lol. "All of MY best comebacks were left on the cutting room floor" lmao

[@CaptainFalcon333]

6:06 That machine is the only one in existence, according to Gordon, but that was over a decade ago, so that might have changed by now.