MESA/Boogie® Mark IIC+ full demo & tutorial ft. Doug West & Tommy Waugh

[@FabrizioCalderara76]

Finally a video where this glorious amp is played through its all capabilities: clean, crunch and lead. Yes, it is very famous for its heavy tones but it can really do much more than that, because it's really so versatile. I own a 100W IIC made in 1983: I hope that this new version has a more efficient fx loop and a more usable reverb, if compared to the older amps like mine.

[@glaucosouza1971]

You guys nailed the 80s clean tone just perfect. Great!!!

[@mesaboogie]

Thanks a lot!

[@MMASoapOpera]

I'd love for Mesa Boogie to re-issue Randall Smith.

[@jsullivan2112]

The man is in his 80s though. Let him enjoy his retirement.

[@MMASoapOpera]

@ If it was his decision to go into retirement and he is happy with it then 💯 The man deserves it.

[@dlpasco]

Always good to see you, Doug. Much love. Thanks for everything you do ❤

[@lewismcnicholas2631]

Doug and Kris FTW with Mesa reviews

[@heavymetalchaplain3874]

I’m happy you’re releasing this. This is my dream amp. I placed my pre-order.

[@lucwilson1]

Same!

[@JensenSpeakersVideos]

The MarkIIC+ is a milestone in electric guitar amplification... as well as Doug is a treasure in ... pretty much everything you can think of. Excellently done guys! Hope to see you soon!

[@rogerdat7807]

1st detail I noticed after confirming THAT genuine Boogie tone was the infamous lead channel hiss missing. Historically, that hiss likely birthed noise gates. Yet, we the Boogie purists knew how to footwitch in/out of that hiss. This demo sounds like you nailed the Boogie squish/give missing in virtually all Boogies after the MarkIII era. Better "studio" cleans than 99% of all Fenders, also offering searing/singing warm gain minus the sharp points and square edges of Marshall's. This platform combined with a 2nd to none EFX loop was the reason 2C and MarkIII combos were found in every serious studio across planet earth. I can't wait to take one of these puppies for a test-drive!

[@roymartin500]

As a Mesa owner since 2004(Mesa Single Rectifier series2 50watt solo head and a 2x12 Recto cab) all I've had is great experiences with the company. That was my first big amp purchase I had and my young self had minor issues dialing in the tone I needed so I emailed them. I got a call back the next day from customer service, I cant remember who it was exactly but it blew me away as it was the head of the department. Point being, they're such a great company and I'm sure if Doug West is at the helm everything is running just as well. I'm pretty sure this version of the Mark 2C+ is going to be a special amp. Thanks Mesa.

[@greatscot5177]

Back in the 80's I was in a band and our guitarist used a Mesa and I loved the way it sounded, it blew the Marshalls away. Glad to see it updated and back in production.

[@j.w.5485]

Ola needs to demo one! That's what people want to hear.

[@NinjaRunningWild]

Ola will stick a boost pedal in front of it & make it sound like every other amp he tests; sterile & with too much gain.

[@crummy.]

​@@NinjaRunningWildyour slow Ola owns an original IIC+ and demos it on his channel WITHOUT a boost pedal. Playing MOP and black album riffs with settings from metallicas producer.

[@JohnPriceJNPMusic]

Great to see Doug West involved!

[@MaxChipz]

Please re-issue the Triaxis with the same capabilities as the Soldano X88IR.

[@christmeister]

And release the Bass TriAxis aswell

[@vincelupone]

This right here, and use modern updates so it’s not 2 feet deep either.

[@Rouwiinator]

I might even prefer that quad preamp to be honest.

[@travisstone6099]

This is what I’m waiting for! 🔥

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

​@@Rouwiinator Some players thought it (thequad) was the best iic preamp circuit.

[@Tomitoch]

Gibson using Fenders in their videos - I love it! Positivity all around man!

[@FastRedPonyCar]

Papa Gibson said no metal allowed in the marketing video...

[@erikr968]

They're just ahead of things. Every gear reviewer out there will be trying to replicate Metallica and Petrucci tones. It will get old fast. Soon everyone will be begging for non-metal demo videos of th 2C+...

[@vaportrails7943]

The beginning of the video is very clearly Metallica inspired.

[@Squall6575]

The rock crunch section was clearly No Remorse inspired riffing

[@WyldestZakk1980]

@@erikr968 Who do you think will be the main customer who wants to buy this amp?

[@josephpickard3108]

Metal guys will buy Soldanos, only blues lawyers can afford these reissues

[@simonr344]

People ask for a reissue of the Mark IIC+ for years and then when they do, people complain 🤷‍♂

[@novemberzed9163]

@@simonr344 It is not true to the original. They had to cut corners. 75 watts of power is a joke. Randall Smith was fired. We don't know if Mike Bendinelli was involved in the product. There are many gaps.

[@charlesrocks]

I’m not complaining. Thing sounds insane

[@blacklion401]

It’s not the same. 70% components. That other 30% counts.

[@masecardrums]

⁠@@novemberzed9163 Simul-Class/Triode has always been 75 watts. Pentode operation didn't appear until the green stripe Mark III, which is 85 watts.

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

​@@novemberzed9163 If you pay attention to the photos, they even tried to duplicate the same preamp boards that the original had. It looks pretty close to me, with the exception of some more compact capacitors and ribbon cables.

[@peterpowder8546]

I have an original IIC* from mid 80’s. Wood and wicker. Simul Class. I wanted that old Larry Carlton sound. I shipped out my Mark IIC back to the factory to fix a buzzing sound, and when it came back, I noticed there was a plus written under where the power cord enters the chassis.

[@1xRacer]

this is a huge win not just for guitarists but for music 🙌

[@kylecravens8052]

Wow, the amp I didn't know I wanted but no doubt have heard on a thousand recordings. Congratulations on a great release here!

[@scottyhughes9179]

Tremendous! I have an original 1984 MK-IIC+ and love it for all styles of music, from clean to crunch... I sold Boogie amps in Ontario, Canada in a music store that I managed in the late 1970's-early 1980's... We'd order ten MK-II amps at a time, some pre-sold, some for the floor... they didn't last long in the shop, and no doubt are still being enjoyed to this day. Thanks for the story, and the reissue guys!

[@Jalliams]

Bravo Mesa & Gibson for reissuing this fabled amp. No small task I’m sure. Very excited to see what the future brings for Mesa Boogie!!

[@fedrek01]

Guys, it was beautiful, smiled through the whole thing, the dedication to details is unbelievable, a lot of history background, an explanation of how the controls work, many cool tones and the settings under each of them, even though I was born in the 90s and never saw this amp in person I felt so emotional troughout the video as if I was there in the 80s when it was released. Thank you Mesa.

[@mesaboogie]

Thanks for watching!

[@fedrek01]

@mesaboogie I'm glad to help!

[@spootnewton7121]

Still got my original IIc+ from the 80s! And I still love it. I thought it was a Mk III until I sent it back to Mesa to have it gone through and they contacted me and told me I had a IIc+ !

[@henrikcroan]

One of the best tones ever ❤.

[@Soloist1983]

Triaxis with the cabclone IR, in a shorter chassis, next 🤘🤘🤘 Already got this IIC+ on order but a Triaxis redux would be killer! Maybe the dynamic voice could be replaced with a small LCD screen or dot matrix LED that allows full GEQ operation in software/hardware 🤷‍♂️

[@maidenthe80sla]

Sweet sounding amp you guys are making again. My 1987 Boogie Mark III purple stripe I bought used at Guitar Center in 2014 for $750 would be jealous if I purchased one. I a m happy that I have a Boogie which was a dream of mine in the 80s.

[@ryankharl]

I'm waiting for the TRIAXIS reissue, a bit smaller and robust and LESS Noisy. With added IR options.

[@GryphynProject]

I still have my Mark lll from way back and love it. I now use a triple rect and the envy of clubs but sound guys don’t like me. Thank you

[@seanslavin1974]

Seeing those old photos of Mike B is pretty cool. Good move doing this Mesa folks.

[@mesaseany]

I’m just here for the comments from the amplifier snobs.😂

[@wendelllanders8439]

I bought the Mark 7 and love the tones from it!!It has 11c+ in it and it is the iconic tone of the era !!

[@paulstanley9950]

Sounds just like my 87 mark3 red stripe, love it

[@BPToneReview]

I really don't know why this wasn't reissued before Gibson took over (well I do, but don't quite understand Randall's thinking) I realize Artist don't like to re-paint the Mona Lisa but what do the fans/players want? Well here it is. Gibson/Boogie seem to have done it right too. Gibson, I hate your legal practices and disregard to smaller companies and the firing (we think at least, nothing official with explanation) of Randall but BRAVO on the MK2C+ reissue.

[@guilhermerodriguesgermanic]

Its sound presents magnificent colours, it has a deadly bite!

[@bartbart4702]

I'd love to see the Mesa Boogie Mark III Coliseum Series 300 reissue.

[@dev--null]

Damn, sounds fantastic! Great job guys! I have the JP version of it, and I love it, too. Love the IIC+ !

[@iradflores8276]

Re-issue the Lonestar Special! You guys make everything work out so well.

[@sdfsdfsdfdsfsdfable]

I just sold my Lonestar Special. It was a great amp. Just a little too big for my new living situation.

[@the-LeoKnightus]

I am a gigging country picker. Been a Boogie guy for a long time. A usable channel switching amp with perfect natural breakup is huge for me. Also the natural EQ of the Mark amps is dynamite for a live stage amp. Gonna be picking up a new one.

[@nicktoth3994]

I bring mine home either tomorrow or Thursday! I can't wait 🥳🤪

[@nordicguitar8395]

Randall should have sold the company to Doug and all the employees and THEN bowed out after a couple of years. Gibson will eventually f**k it all up.

[@jsullivan2112]

What if Doug didn't want to buy it? Running a business is completely different from designing guitar amps. Lots of people jumping to conclusions about things they don't know.

[@DougDopplerMusic]

SO excited about this amp!!!

[@kaish8184]

Excited AF!

[@PurposefulPorpoise]

I just dont understand why the Mark 1 is not just a standard product available. Its like if Heinz didn't produce ketchup anymore cus "condiments have evolved".

[@KennyBlue23]

Friendly correction, if I may ... Mesa Boogie Mark IIa was released late 1978, and ran to August of 1980, then followed by the Mark IIb.. I have one of the first Mark IIa Combos !

[@OfficialSNMvids]

Already have mine pre-ordered and my body is ready to play and hear this thing!!! Go team Mesa/Gibson!!! \m/

[@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145]

Just release a rackmount preamp of that thing and I’m all in!

[@frankgreco]

The Mark II came out in 1978 not 1980. I got my IIB in the late 70's after hearing Robben Ford's tone on Inside Story and hearing a local guitarist in Tucson at the time play through one. I asked Boogie to give it an overhaul (update the e-components, clean the pots, etc), a few years ago, and they refused since the amp was so old. Instead, they asked one of their employees to work on it after hours on his own time. In other words, Boogie wanted no part of the overhaul. I was really disappointed in their customer service and how I was treated.

[@ADR.Hi-Gain]

I can remember like yesterday when these amps MK llc+came out I always had boogies ( combos. ) I loved my 50 caliber. My best friend had a Colosseum 300🔊

[@ralph_clay]

That's a nice Tom Anderson you got there. I remember when Doug used to come by Anderson Guitarworks when i worked there many years ago.

[@CharlieRobbins]

I neeeeeeeed it!

[@JP-vg3qt]

Part of my rig I have a pair of Mk 2 C+ modded preamps (clean and dirt) running through the old version of the 50/50 power amp. Aside from both have entirely different settings they are pure tone.

[@Justin-kn6dp]

Sticking with my pre-Gibson Dual Rectifier Multi-Watt 🎸👍🏻

[@williamscolaro1159]

Doug is a legend

[@ultimatemetalguitartones]

Nice now we need an A B with the real deal and of course some high gain samples. This demo leaves so much to be desired...

[@axepharaoh]

They'd need to get the one they designed it after then, because there is NO "ONE" real deal like the JP2C, that's why some people LOVED one of their IIC+ and didn't care for the other, so if people start to compare the reissue to a random IIC+, ofc it's gonna be different, it's literally a different amp..

[@oyvey8526]

I actually kinda "ABd" with my '83 IIC+/++ DRG. At the shred section, when they aired the short clip i copied the same settings they had on there RI and played the same riff its on the boogie forum. IMO based on these demos it doesnt sound the same at all. The RI atleast here sounds anemic, lifeless and compressed compared to mine. But lets see when the real comparisons begin...

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

​@@oyvey8526 KZbin compresses all audio. 🤦

[@trevorhirst5096]

@@oyvey8526it’s KZbin. You can’t compare sounds on here vs real life

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

​@@axepharaoh The jp2c is not " the real deal". The mids are different.

[@pz1792]

hope that someone will do AB test with vintage one

[@kaish8184]

We will see very soon!

[@XYz-vy7tr]

Ola will 100% do it. He has the old amp.

[@NinjaRunningWild]

@@XYz-vy7tr 😂 No he doesn't! He can access one though.

[@robertterry2838]

Looks like a winner. Where’s 120v receptacle on the back? It’s a shame that feature didn’t make the cut.

[@dougyoung4360]

This is a great looking amp! I would swap out the Black Shadow for a EVM12L. I'm a big fan of the Mark series amps having owned a Mark 4 and currently own a Mark 1 re-issue. I want this!!

[@-Atmos1]

Warm sounding amp , cool .

[@bryancroad2063]

Can't wait!

[@FilBack]

2:07 this guy sounds exactly like John Petrucci talking.

[@chrisodonnell3776]

Yea I wasn't looking at the time and assumed it was JP.

[@zbassillini]

Hahaha! A little quicker tempo in dudes speak, same tone and rasp as Petrucci though !!! 😂

[@gab.lab.martins]

Why does it seem to not have as much gain? Some of these examples have the gain knob at 8, and it's not giving "the Black Album sound", or Pull Me Under, or anything close.

[@victorradu7874]

Mark V does a very nice 2C plus

[@CemSaydam]

It’s nice to see 2c+ again and it’s also odd to see gibson people there.

[@Mcfly0856]

So glad they didn't try to modernize it at all, now please bring the Triaxxis back!

[@AnonYmous-jp8uu]

had one in 1995 on the 212 cab, for a contemporary church rock pop group, and it was alright, but kinda generic. so it worked fo that, but I flipped it to get my Matchless back!

[@christmeister]

Peep the pair of Rev G Blackface Silver Chassis Dual Rec reissues in the back

[@susancorgi]

it’s about time

[@synonyx]

How about those clean tones! Impressed. On the 80's clean was Dinesh using any pedals? - Thank you for also playing a Strat in this to give us a feel of how single coils will sound.

[@Jazzlikestickhands]

Gibson managed to carry over there huge price tags to Mesa it looks like. This thing is 8k over here in Australia, that's crazy. Looks like it's a dentist or lawyer amp to go alone with their Les Paul in their office lol.

[@chrisodonnell3776]

How is the price in Australia their fault? It's 3500 in US which is in line with a Soldano or Friedman product.

[@scottmcgee9469]

Drug money mate.

[@AdamFague]

PLAY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL TONES I DON’T WANNA HEAR JOE BONAMASSA WANK OFF WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT

[@lewismcnicholas2631]

Amen

[@bengregory7938]

Crazy how a single channel amp is so desirable compared to other mesa amps out there

[@matthewdortona237]

My ears must really be blown out. I’m missing what is so ridiculously amazing about this amp. Doesn’t sound that much different than a MKIV???

[@geraldrauch1701]

my mark IV sounds WAY better than the 2C+ in this clip...really disappointed...

[@lewismcnicholas2631]

@@geraldrauch1701 most of the sound clips don't seem to use the EQ so would reserve judgement until some proper reviews come out

[@rogerdat7807]

The DNA of MB Rectifier tech is in almost every amp after MarkIII's. They catered to the market nü metal/detuned heavy amplification as any smart business would follow the trends. You could argue MB's Rectal-fire series defined the market of high-gain amps for a season. Nonetheless, the audio clips on this vid sound nothing like MK4; as that amp was where Boogie's high gain offerings began losing the liquid sponginess (round sound) in favor of sharper edged tone.

[@geraldrauch1701]

@@lewismcnicholas2631 👍

[@geraldrauch1701]

@@rogerdat7807 👍

[@joachimlindback]

Leo, Jim & Randall ❤

[@sheercerebralpower]

I had a wicker cane MK2c….i pxd it against a MK 3c Head with a 2x12 EV Cab….then in the 90s I had a Boogie deal and received a custom made 180 w Triple Rec Full Stack, A Triaxis with 2:90 and 2 Cabs….now the only Boogie I have is the King Snake.

[@nogoogleplus]

I have 2 originals I’m super curious to AB them against the reissue!!

[@dadnewdjent7592]

How about a triaxis with built in fx . A mesa modeler if you will thanks please.

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

Just get a kemper.

[@dadnewdjent7592]

no I'm good I have a Fender Tonemaster Pro . I just think it would be cool to have a Mesa TUBE front end going into a Multifx unit.

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

​@@dadnewdjent7592 Triaxis was pretty intense as far as fault finding goes. So they may not see it as cost efficient. For each channel there were multiple ldr ( light dependent resistors) alone to look at.

[@candypeanut9927]

OK, good. And now please start working on reissues of the original Dual Rectifier, rev F preferably. I know you can do it. 😊

[@FilNightSky]

I love it ❤❤❤

[@OilCanHarry2U]

Between the two, would the Mk IIc+ be better choice than a Gorilla GG-80W 1x10" Guitar Combo Amp?

[@rogerdat7807]

@OilCanHarry2U Go with the Gorilla. With the savings difference, you'll be able to send one of your grandchildren to college so that they can later identify your sarcasm as a threat to the motherland.

[@b1gnutt]

This thing...is underwhelming and the price is just stupid.

[@geraldrauch1701]

totally agree brother!!!

[@rogerdat7807]

Compared to what, tho?

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

The price is reasonable considering the state of world economies, minus the fact proving otherwise would mean you were an expert on every component, including even the shells.

[@drebatista]

Where’s Randall???

[@scription7277]

He left

[@-cobainism-]

Was politely fired

[@drebatista]

@@scription7277 it was a rhetorical question

[@scription7277]

@@drebatista oh, didn't get that sry

[@SeaOfMadness]

@@-cobainism- Wasn't that politely done, but....

[@Starch1b2c3d4a]

Is Mesa done innovating? Thats what it looks like to me... Its becoming just a legacy company now

[@richardhunter9779]

Funny how these sorts of comments only start coming 30 years after companies are done innovating.

[@JeremieFriez]

I feel the same. That's why I don't think I need anything else than my Mark V and Transatlantic heads. (Even tho I really was hyped for the JP2C for a short period)

[@wastewoodrockers5526]

@@richardhunter9779Mesa haven’t ’innovated’ since the 1980s lol

[@Tanax13]

There's very little innovation going on in the guitar industry. Everything's been done already. Most people just want the sound of the past because it was super good. Reissues are perfect in that scenario. If it's not good for you, then buy something else.

[@Mold81]

You guys don't buy innovative stuff for many reasons, like the comments above. That's why manufacturers in the field stop innovative and follow the legacy.

[@Diminuent]

Fingers crossed for a reissued rev f recto next! 😂

[@poornoodle9851]

What speaker is in the combo? Celestion C90? Edit…yup…had to wait until the end of the clip though…

[@cliverkay]

Bring back the Lonestar ...

[@SolaChristus]

You’re correct. I finally found and bought one last year to add to my Boogie collection. It’s absolutely one of the best, a true Jem. No wonder Andy Timmons uses one…

[@MayorMcCheese2000]

hey someone at Gibson remembered they own this company, good deal!

[@wcarballeira]

Why not metal on the testing ?

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Can hear this model of Boogie to great effect on Dire Straits' _Alchemy Live_ album.

[@slackalope_streams]

No Randall Smith, no sale. Sorry guys. Fire a Gibson exec and bring him back and we'll talk.

[@jared8324]

Hey guys ! I owned a mark 2b , and can’t help but to wonder , was the complete shift from the structure of the mark 1 , to the mark 2 gain stages, at all from looking into dumbles in the west coast? (if you notice the gain stage structure between mark 1 and mark 2 isn’t related at all and the mark 2a resembles the gain stage of dumble ods rather than mark 1 Was the dumble gain staging at all an inspiration for the mark 2 ? As the mark 2 gain staging seems more similar to the dumble ods than it does with the mark 1, and the ods I believe was the first amp to have the gain stages setup in that fashion after the tone stack

[@isaacroche3223]

I need a ToneMaster version of that amp!!!😜

[@antilaw9911]

Please send one to Pete Thorn. I want to hear hard rock and shredding demo! Now!!

[@davidaddington5900]

very cool ....

[@Steve410811]

I got a DC-5 . Connected to a engl cab . Its insane

[@LukeTurner-dg5zi]

Where are the metal tones???!!! Who cares about the clean ones????!!!

[@bleufishtv]

Why destroy the sound of something beautiful

[@thatoneocto]

​@@bleufishtvCause it sounds better

[@vaportrails7943]

Uh. 1. The first 15 seconds of the video were clearly Metallica-ish. 2. These amps can play any style of music, it is not owned by metalheads.

[@aaronwinter1092]

So I need one of these and an Es-330.

[@hotblackdesiato3451]

As much as I love my Studio Pre and 50:50 Power Amp, I really miss my .22 Caliber combo.

[@no.mids.brando]

that 80s clean is gorgeous! what was the signal chain on that? boss ce?

[@Eliphas_Elric]

Gonna need to see Petrucci demo one of these bad boys.

[@vaportrails7943]

Doubtful. He’s got his own custom model.

[@Eliphas_Elric]

@@vaportrails7943 And? I'm sure he would still play through one for a video for Mesa.

[@NinjaRunningWild]

@@Eliphas_Elric You're "sure"?

[@Eliphas_Elric]

@@NinjaRunningWild considering he’s been a lifelong 2C+ fan yeah I’m pretty sure if asked he’d shoot a demo video for Mesa, what’s your point?

[@bloodySunday77]

I know it seems crazy to have to correct you but the Mark II Boogie started coming out in 1978, not 1980. I have a date of June 1978 written inside the chassis of my own Mark IIa. Also, an FX loop already existed on Mark IIa but it was designed in a rather weird way (I think with the signal being too hot). Never used mine.

[@sunnibird]

I watched a bunch of vids on amp repair earlier this year and Boogies, and numerous others, are poorly laid out and designed. Stuff the doesn't make sense. Now because guys we can see guys working on amps and it's shocking how bad some are. There are only a handful really that are properly made. Pretty much anything mainstream is not it. It was a real wake up call.

[@kimblez]

Reissue the QUAD !!