As a classic rock guy, i never used the EQ for tone shaping on my Boogie, only ever used it as a level boost for solos. The non-EQ Boogie is basically a high gain Princeton, which is perfection for old school RAWK.

I am a metal guy...I am a Mark guy...I own 2 and have sold several...have to have the 2c+ eventually...(sold a Studio pre)....HATED the tone of that amp with the geq engaged,,,,it was MASSIVE before and the geq totally screwed it up...not to be critical (but being critical)...I know the geq isnt always created equal and have come to rely on an outboard eq for most of my tones lately ((ivb nd V owner)...guess it doesnt really matter as long as the base tone is there and it sure is....great playing and demo!!!

What about the uncontrollable microphonics when gain and drive are around 8??

Ahhh the amp that was the downfall of Metallicas tone

How can yall justify charging 4-5 thousand dollars for an amp head , I'd rather by a Chinese knockoff than give yall that much money

So 45 minutes of presenting the amp in the modes that 98% of potential buyers dont care about and than some 5 minutes addressing main interest group with very poor settings in the mode that should kill but it just did not… Thank God for Ola Englund who in 20 seconds clearly demonstrated that this amp can do sound for which it was re issued. And I am really strongly controling myself to not express my opinion in more direct/honest way…

WHY...just WHY...didn´t you kick off your 2C+ RI launch with THIS video? Do you realize how many people you have alienated with your initial presentation? You were sitting on GOLD! Literal GOLD! For real! You had it all! Delete my comment if you must, if this makes you angry. I am just holding up a mirror! But if you DO delete my comment, you would just prove my point.

53 minutes and not one second of « wooo it sounds awesome « it was ok at best . This can sound so much better . The problem is not the amp ………..At least people who are going to buy this are going to be surprised in the right way :-)

During recent interviews, Randall Smith claimed that an accurate reissue of the Mark IIc+ could not be done due to the availability of current components. I am curious what deviations were performed in the reissue?

Undisputed quality, I love Mesa Boogie

Please do a Mark IV reissue next

I liked it when players like Andy Timmons came to demo amps.

Awesome video idea - the more Doug the better!

More videos like this please 🙏

Ola Englund's demo is better than anything on this channel.

Funny that the manufacturer is literally the worst at dialling in their own amp. I know why he leaves the EQ to last, he doesn't know how to dial it in.

Try to stop milking old hits, just come up with not tech !

Wow! This amp does the plexi sound really well! This might be the perfect cover all amp!

I know you guys are owned by Gibson but, come on, use a Fender or boutique brand with single coils and you can tell you were told not to mention the name Fender in the video. You guys ain't taking business away from each other as most guitarists prefer one or the other or have both guitars. Thanks for going over the liquid lead, chugging is cool but liquid lead is actually useful in all genres. I would like to see a demo of how you would gig with this one going from clean to rhythm to high gain lead in the same song. Ola did the chug test way better, yours sounds a little too thin.

How do you miss it so much….. shame on mesa

When in doubt bring out the man himself

Trying to save face with this video!!

Its so funny the whole thing about the dad-rock-allegation-thing. The 2C+ is not only a metal amp although it is its heritage. Yes it does thrash metal but it also does other things and thats whats this is about. If dad-rock is a problem why even bother with a real amp, i thought GenZ was all about DSP anyways. Quit bashing Mesa and Gibson already

Not very impressive, what speakers were used ?

“Dialing in single coil clean” - with les paul. They even can’t encourage for their competitors and bring strat for this section. strat that can raise the sells of the amp but unlike Fender marketing, Gibson is so CLUMSY.

I think Doug is the only guy in the world I would let adjust the knobs on my amp. He’s the dude 😁🤘🏻

I will use it to learn how to better understand my Neural DSP Mark IIc+ plugin. ;D

The amp sounds great, but the guitar is out of tune. A shame

These guys don't know how to dial in a IIC+, and they work for Mesa. Every youtube Bedroom player gets better tones than them.

As I’m listening to them talk about the graphic EQ, and being a happy owner of a Mark 5-25; it is very possible to use the graphic EQ as your favorite metallica rhythm sound like the classic master puppets to black album sound that I love, and disengage the EQ for mid range focused solo sounds, or get a good nasty chunky kill em all type of sound like the song whiplash. That is my Mesa Boogie using advice for the classic metallica sounds that very much informed my purchase of said amp.

All good until the eq lol .......missed it again lol

Why do they have a salesperson giving us sound examples?!? With so many legendary players who currently use or have used this amp, why don’t they just have them or someone who can actually play demo the amp for us?!? - Who’s in charge at Gibson???🤦‍♂️🤡

Hearing Doug really go in depth with this amp is so cool. As someone who’s been playing Mark Series amps for 5 years now. This still had some real gems in terms of dialing these amps.

issues with the reissue lol

This is the video that should have dropped first. Great job!

Really great video, very helpful.

Anyone here a billionaire?

Why was the indian man cutting doug off at the end and seemed like he was sick and tired of doing the demo and wanted to go outside and hit the vape?? Didnt even let doug have closing words..... does Doug work for this man?

Very complicated amp..in a small box. Very spicey pricey…

Cool demo, if you sit around and pick chords out and do little wanky solo licks.... Where is the big heavy skull crushing thrash at because that is what MOST people bought this amp for. I don't get it. LOL

This amp created metal in 1984

This dude just cant play the same damn riff can he.... you cannot get a good idea for tones when the notes are always wanking around and never repeating.

This sounds great. Without the EQ it reminds me of incubus. You guys rock! Thanks guys! Very interested in a 7 vs 2c+ comparison.

Where's the Damage knob? Looks as though youre also doing some damage control!

I hoping we would get this kind of video with Doug going over everything! So cool. Great for the people that have no experience either the mark series to learn and skip the frustration of learning to dial the amp

I’m sorry, but those mid-gain tones just don’t sound full or pleasant to my ears. He called the tone, “Smokey” that’s not what I want my guitar to sound like. It’s a Mark2c+, turn the gain up, dial the mids back a little and enjoy the sonic bliss this amp offers! Enjoy Destiny!