Most of the Material was filmed at Airfield Zwischenahn in WWII. Taken from the DVD "Wings of Fire-The Messerschmitt ME-163".
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@55chh7 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Germans can also claim the GoPro as one of their many inventions.
@chapiit082 жыл бұрын
@the Game, Review and Reallife Channel Check Maks Dampf knowledgeable post below.
@ocm4r12 жыл бұрын
I'm from Bad Zwischenahn, it's a spa town nowadays. I did not know that such experimental aircraft were used at the former airfield. Thanks for clearing things up.
@EnglishFamily6 жыл бұрын
The airfield is all grown over and a golf course now isn't it? It's a shame, it should have some kind of museum there I think. A bit like the V2 museum in Peenemuende
@fragnichtwasfursaft26087 ай бұрын
Yes there is a golf course, but part of that land is now an airstrip for glide planes.
@oneblueyedog12 жыл бұрын
Superb vid and narrator. Most of the footage is from early model series of the B. Later models did away with the rear tailwheel fairing as far as my research revealed. Wolfgang Spate wrote a great book about it as well as Mano Ziegler. I think Rudy passed on just a few years ago. He was an avid glider pilot instructor an taught many. He's honored in the soaring hall of fame.
@fredblonder78506 жыл бұрын
I once attended a lecture by Rudy Opitz, at the National Air & Space Museum in Washington DC. He described the camera, which was needed because the performance of the Komet was so outrageous that the old system of having the test pilot write notes, could not keep up. He was the pilot on the very first flight using the head-cam. Since it was to be a test-flight, they’d mounted additional instruments. To make room for the additional instruments, someone decided to remove the artificial horizon. You see where this is going. Of course, he flew into a cloud, got disoriented and overstressed the plane. He eventually recovered and made what he thought was a normal landing up until he noticed the ground-crew staring at the plane in horror. The tail, with the rocket-motor, had broken off. He'd landed the front half of the plane. Since the Komet had so many of its control surfaces on the wings (It was a"tailless" plane after all.) he was able to keep it under control. What impressed me most was the sheer joy he expressed when speaking, and his love for the plane.
@EnglishFamily6 жыл бұрын
It was a truly awesome little plane
@walterseaman25565 жыл бұрын
@@EnglishFamily - ...and a real brave pilot, with steel nuts, I shall add !
@shaun12936 жыл бұрын
1944, Me-163B: 0 to 40,000ft in 3 minutes. Just ten years later... 1954, English Electric Lightning: 0 to 50,000ft in 1 minute. It's amazing how far things progressed in those times. I feel modern fighters have lost their touch.
@EnglishFamily6 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage, I hadn't seen it before, great commentary too
@TucsonDude7 жыл бұрын
Vids like this are why ordinary television is so boring and worthless...much less even entertaining. Kudos!
@walterseaman25565 жыл бұрын
Thank God for internet and especially KZbin...now we're able to see so much interesting footage that in past decades were rarely shown on network TV and could only see them briefly at a movie theater in some newsreel if we were lucky !
@avitmadness7 жыл бұрын
Great commentary and video , something unusual to watch while having lunch, cool I loved the way Germany had so many what must have been futuristic advances.
@gibbsm9 жыл бұрын
they had the first GoPro! loved the video, thanks.
@ccalidor6 жыл бұрын
Good perception of a man. This is the Leica camera?
@tintenpot3 жыл бұрын
@@ccalidor It is a ROBOT Camera., film advance with a spring motor, there was an electric motor also
@MisterIvyMike4 жыл бұрын
Heini Dittmar was born in Bad Kissingen, a town not so far from my home town. He was the first person who reached a speed more than 1000 km/h in a Me-163A on Oktober 2, 1941! Nice GoPro... 👍
@maksdampf6 жыл бұрын
The Narrator is wrong, that camera was probably the most advanced Action Camera during the 40ies and well into the 80ies. Probably the best data aquisition camera until digital. It is a Robot II square camera (yes, it shoots instagram format) with automatic winder, something that would be reintroduced in many cameras only in the 80ies. It was one of the smallest 35mm film cameras on the market, much smaller and lighter than the by then gold-standard of compact cameras: the Leica III. It had a rotary shutter, just like the later Olympus Pen-F, which is both bigger and heavier and shoots smaller images. The Robot could shoot 4 frames per second, with typically 54 frames on a roll. Mechanically it was very similar to cine cameras of that time, with some robots even having larger magazines and bigger spring motors. So look for the size an weight of a 35mm cine camera to get the same kind of quality footage as this thing did (8mm or 16mm is not comparable at all). Thus was truly the only Gopro of that time, but with high end image quality and pricing more like a RED Epic.
@davidgifford81124 жыл бұрын
Maks Dampf Saved me looking this up. I was sure it was a Robot but not sure of the model.
@davecopp9356 Жыл бұрын
@maksdampf Well said.
@ericlewis73286 жыл бұрын
Eric Brown said this was by far the most dangerous aircraft he ever tested- a thimble of residual fuel was lethal
@erasmusguy82894 жыл бұрын
I love the way they surrounded the pilot with the deadly t-stoff tanks. Health and safety gone.
@DataWaveTaGo4 жыл бұрын
Eric also stated that the other 4 tailess aircraft developed after WW2 by Allies were so inferior in handling he called them all "killers". One of them killed De Havilland's test pilot son. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZpernIpmjbCboLs
@trevorjermy74756 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, just fantastic German engineering.
@fasold21644 жыл бұрын
The name of the special trator you don't dare to mention is of course Scheuch-Schlepper. The designer was Erich Scheuch (who died in 1972). The vehicle was built from 1943 onwards in about 500 copies (with a few ones after the war) by Fahrzeugbau Schumann GmbH at Werdau. The motor came from Volkswagen, replacing the DKW-motor, which was considered to be too weak. The mentioned fairing of the tailwheel on teh Me 163 B is not a feature of "late" production machines. This fairing was often removed to prevent collecting dirt, which might block the tailwheel. This was common practice within the Luftwaffe.
@marknelson59298 жыл бұрын
Just a minor correction to the film narration, showing Rudy Opitz getting into the cockpit. The narrater mentions the 'machine gun protruding from the leading edge of the wing', this in fact was a 30mm MK 108 cannon, not a machine gun. A formidable weapon and used on a variety of Luftwaffe fighters, including the Me 262 which had four grouped in the nose.
@mjw19558 жыл бұрын
+Mark Nelson Actually, the weapons seen in that footage were 20mm cannon Less punch but much more reliable that than the 30mm MK108.
@cjpert52868 жыл бұрын
true
@WildBillCox137 жыл бұрын
Check Yeager, flying the USAAF P39 Air Cobra, equipped with the "Oldsmobile" 37mm T9/M4 Cannon, which had similar characteristics to the MK108, likened it to "lobbing grapefruits", due to the extremely low muzzle velocity and quick "droop" or trajectory. USAAF pilots seldom used the cannon, as it required too close an approach to be useful. Red Army pilots used the cannon extensively, but not for antitank use, as might be expected, for the US supplied them no armor piercing rounds for it. An experimental armament package for the Me 262 used the 5cm/50mm BK for longer range, while keeping the high projectile weight for greater effect on target. I imagine the recoil for such a weapon was hard on the 8300lb airframe.
@daangebraad7 жыл бұрын
The Me 163B-0 had two 20 mm MG 151/20 cannons and the Me 163B-1 had two 30 mm MK 108 cannons the reason the B-1 was produced less was because of the fact that the 30's on the B-1 had only 60 rounds per gun.
@QuizmasterLaw7 жыл бұрын
these days we call those autocannon.
@believethebook51986 жыл бұрын
Interesting video with a great job of narration.
@MegaEvoluzione5 жыл бұрын
Imagine the rush on take off and climbing towards the sky in what's basically a rocket, add to that the thrill of the rocket engine exploding at any second...
@pooool22487 жыл бұрын
They had GoPro in 1945 !!!!
@TucsonDude7 жыл бұрын
Those dudes were so ahead of their time.
@acmaster59597 жыл бұрын
Way ... ahead of their time!
@ccalidor6 жыл бұрын
Good perception of a man. This is the Leica camera?
@walterseaman25565 жыл бұрын
Only the Germans had it !
@dr.wilfriedhitzler18854 жыл бұрын
@@acmaster5959 Always, in the past and in the present.
@markusp95696 жыл бұрын
5:20 so they already experimented with thrust vector control?
@jmjaxson6 жыл бұрын
Nice you noticed Markus. It appears it was only in it's yaw axis for trim but nevertheless it was applied.
@captainoblivious_yt4 жыл бұрын
Yes of course. Look up the V2 rocket
@me0006547 жыл бұрын
They were the first Warriors to ride into the battle field on a tongue of flames !R-E-S-P-E-C-T !
@thewiseowl36728 жыл бұрын
Well done, educational and in my language. Thank you.
@darielmacduev18567 жыл бұрын
As you wish! You´re welcome!
@asmith92167 жыл бұрын
A few corrections here, but a very interesting combination of clips. Someone commented that this was the fastest fighter of WW2 - it wasn't, but it did have the highest climb rate. Also, the commentary mentions the ME-110 several times - I think they meant the BF-110.
@WildBillCox137 жыл бұрын
BF designation refers to the original name of the company, Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (Acronym: BFW). When the BF 109 and BF 110 were designed and test flown in the mid to late 1930s, BF was the designation for the company's aircraft. The company was later renamed Messerschmitt (in 1938) after lead designer Willie Messerschmitt and aircraft designed afterward were designated Me as a result. The two designations, BF and Me, were often used in press releases describing 109 and 110 aircraft and both terms entered the common lexicon as a result. Reporters, after all, often changed the narrative, reflecting their ignorance of topic. Not like today . . .
@asmith92167 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@asmith92167 жыл бұрын
Sorry I should have said. It was from a book at my squadron. I'll see if I can dig it out because I can't remember. A quick check now on wikipedia for other aircraft of the period states the Gloster Meteor at 965 km/h, so maybe that was it....
@WildBillCox137 жыл бұрын
From the Wikipedia: P-80 Shooting Star Performance: Maximum speed: 600 mph, Mach .76 (P-80A 558 mph at sea level and 492 mph at 40,000 ft)[8] (965 km/h) Cruise speed: 410 mph (660 km/h) Range: 1,200 mi (1,930 km) Me262 Performance: Maximum speed: 900 km/h (559 mph) Range: 1,050 km (652 mi) Gloster Meteor Performance: Maximum speed: 600 mph (522 knots, 965 km/h, Mach 0.82) at 10,000 ft (3,050 m) Range: 600 mi (522 nmi, 965 km) Mitsubishi J8M/Ki200 Max speed: 900 km/h (559 mph) at 10,000 m (32,808 ft) MXY7 (not a fighter) Performance: Maximum speed: 804 km/h (576 mph) in dive Dive speed (3 Rocket motors at Full-Boost): 1,040 km/h (650 mph) So the MXY-7 Suicide Plane was fractionally faster than the Komet . . . .
@xXAlmdudlerXx7 жыл бұрын
The german wikipedia says that the Me 262B V18 held the speed record till 1953 with 1130 KM/H. Then it was surpassed by a Hawker plane.
@pedrolopezangel87405 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@Klassiker-2 жыл бұрын
I live near Venlo in Germany though Venlo is in Holland. Jagdgeschwader 400 was stationed at Venlo for a few weeks in the summer of 1944. Incredible that the exhaust-plume of these fighters taking off might have have been visible from where I live back in 1944.
@daffyduk77 Жыл бұрын
great footage & informative narration thanks
@bubiruski80676 жыл бұрын
Opitz has a very friendly face. Beside, klopi thanks for preparing this documentary !
@taktycznaherbatka6823 жыл бұрын
This video... it’s just gold!
@Jeffrey3141598 жыл бұрын
4:20 It is not that the hydraulics actuating the landing skid was unreliable but if the pilot did not operate the lever properly the skid was left too rigid and instead of bouncing it delivered a very hard landing. Some pilots were left with severe back injuries!
@CarlosFuentes-fk8md5 жыл бұрын
La mayor parte de las imágenes no las había visto. Una novedad.
@markusdaxamouli51967 жыл бұрын
Great work..thanks for the detail as in all your docs.
@allgood6760 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this 👍✈️
@shitmagnet51366 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr Hanks.
@arschflugkoerper0076 жыл бұрын
Theres a small glider-airstrip nowadays and a golf court :P Its a quiet lovely place. I never imagined that the legendary Me 163 was soaring the skies where I lived in my childhood
@walterseaman25565 жыл бұрын
Things change dramatically when wars are over and peace is back on earth...Everything looks so quiet and harmless, that it's hard to imagine as a battle field in the past.
@harrison00xXx6 жыл бұрын
the landing skit not failed, the landing skid was meant like a shock absorber, and the absorbing depends on the hydraulic pressure, wich was set too high by some pilots.
@flyinhawaiian58487 жыл бұрын
Great video, brave pilots!
@EnglishFamily6 жыл бұрын
Must have been a hell of a ride for a person of the 1930s and 40s
@66rotbart5 жыл бұрын
you definately need to read "Rocket Fighter" by Mano Ziegler
@balazsbelavari75562 жыл бұрын
Mach diamonds are an indiccation of the engine plume being overexpanded. This may have been done to increase efficency higher up in the atmosphere, where it has to work in a smaller atmospheric pressure, though I'd think that it would need the most performance from sea level to around 6 km up, not higher than that.
@williamchamberlain22632 жыл бұрын
Good point; does the priority depend on trading time to intercept against the ability to make multiple passes against the same bomber formation?
@MWcrazyhorse3 жыл бұрын
That thing looks deadly to encounter in a dogfight by any propeller aircraft. 2:25 LOOK AT THAT TURN!!!! That's almost 90°!!!!
@apxpandy49653 жыл бұрын
Fascinating - thanks!
@LaLaLand.Germany6 жыл бұрын
Von dem Mut der Piloten die sich trauten diese Raketenbombe zu fliegen können wir uns heute eine Scheibe abschneiden! Niemand würde sich heute trauen da überhaupt einzusteigen!
@WildBillCox137 жыл бұрын
Great work and thanks for posting!
@mausermann79183 жыл бұрын
I have a book by Heinrich Dittman covering his experidnces with "Das Kraftei". Their nickname for the comet. Hanna Reitsch flew the plane as well, and like many others, she crashed too, smashing her face.
@Snuffelton7 жыл бұрын
That is the cutest propeller I have ever seen :)
@EnglishFamily6 жыл бұрын
I first saw this this aircraft at Duxford museum when I was 10 and I was stuck on how a plane could possibly fly with such a tiny propeller. My grandad told me at the time that it was rocket powered, but I didn't know what that meant, I thought it just made the prop go around faster lol
@rSDGermany6 жыл бұрын
English Family the tiny propeller ist for the instruments (electric power).
@DAM-bl1qv4 жыл бұрын
"Dude, you forgot the wheeeels!!!" :v
@clauspetersen54676 жыл бұрын
Abenteuerlich.....wußten die Ingenieure , dass die Bomber Harris aus GB kommen werden , und die taten das Notwendige in einem Akt der Verzweiflung , um ihr Land vor der Zerbombung zu schützen ? Denn die Komet hatte nur eine begrenzte Reichweite ( 90 km )
@tzsteve336 жыл бұрын
Amazing video,thx for sharing it
@RevolterMJD19814 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the LF-22 Starling.
@Hellenic_Empire3 жыл бұрын
Ah I see you are a man of gta culture as well
@Eibenort2 жыл бұрын
Very well done, thanks a lot!
@Tryinglittleleg7 жыл бұрын
Imagine that detachable gear hurtling down the runway toward you!
@WildBillCox137 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the dropped gear took too hard a bounce and struck the 163 as it struggled for speed and altitude, causing fatalities.
@Mrswedish107 жыл бұрын
9:04 Gopro is that you?
@Eigil_Skovgaard3 жыл бұрын
Very good - thank you.
@hispano40485 жыл бұрын
больше бы таких видео
@FA-fo4qh3 жыл бұрын
Real Me-163: fights B-17s and P-51s War Thunder Me-163: fights Mig-15, Mig-17, G91, F-84, F-86...
@hb91452 жыл бұрын
That climb was ridiculous.
@johncoates99915 жыл бұрын
Excellent narrative.
@canadenhacksmith34416 жыл бұрын
holy shit thats fast
@25FIREBALL6 жыл бұрын
my good buddy George Artelt was a test piolet ---- he founded buffalo ( imports)tools in st.louis with a jewish man-----he gave a interview to my kid in the late 90s -only one he ever gave.....
@tsmgguy7 жыл бұрын
Fuels consisted of hydrazine hydrate in methanol (C-Stoff) and an oxidizer of 80% concentrated hydrogen peroxide (T-Stoff).
@Ruckweiler737 жыл бұрын
tsmgguy: Read somewhere that the fuel for this aircraft was so dangerous that there were supposedly pilots who were dissolved when fuel lines ruptured near the cockpit.
@WildBillCox137 жыл бұрын
The glass peroxide tanks (and the Nitric acid oxidizer tanks on the Soviet BI-1) could break inside their metal webbing on a hard landing, deceleration doing the rest, as highly corrosive fluid shot forward and literally "ate the pilot out of his protective suit".
@smokeless77747 жыл бұрын
And boy does this stuff clear blocked drains!
@richardfancher75246 жыл бұрын
And now days dragracers say "if the ground shaking and the flames are green, he must be running hydrazine".
@walterseaman25565 жыл бұрын
Wow...! What a beautiful and charming little wonder...! It sure looks like a toy...but it was capable of shooting down a B-17 ! Honestly, I wish I could take one home with me !
@mybluebelly2 жыл бұрын
Great video man! The Me-163 is such an iconic weapon of war and i`ve even seen one up close at Berlin/Gatow. What is that steam thing coming from under the rear belly?
@bubiruski80676 жыл бұрын
Thanks kloppi1973 !
@1cyberrider6 жыл бұрын
Great commentary!
@Draxindustries17 жыл бұрын
Fastest fighter of ww2, the germans were way ahead every time..
@hartmutwrith31346 жыл бұрын
fighting for a bad cause and being outnumbered 10:1 and outnumbered in industral power.
@bkjeong43025 жыл бұрын
The Komet was TOO ahead of its time in terms of speed-The thing flew so fast the pilots couldn’t aim their guns! Not really a good weapon then.
@walterseaman25565 жыл бұрын
@rc847394 - But if the Germans put up a fight so fierce and ferocious for 6 years against the whole world, being on the brink of winning on a couple of occasions, makes me wonder and think that if they had only fought against JUST HALF of the world, they would have won...!! Some guys, indeed !
@neiltitmus97443 жыл бұрын
None of these were a threat in the war as they were so difficult to use and unreliable. Britain could have made them but chose not too .the reliable jet was produced by the uk in the late war
@BasementEngineer2 жыл бұрын
@@hartmutwrith3134 Why was keeping the communists out of Germany and Europe a bad cause??? The most courageous lion fights a losing battle against a horde of jackals.
@DaveBegotka8 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@benpotter6143 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. My pronunciation of German is pretty suspect, but I suspect that Hanna's surname would have rhymed with Mach - a softened 'k' sound and that Herr Dr Walther would have sounded more like 'Valter'. Minor quibbles - good stuff to watch!
@sebastiand62206 жыл бұрын
Die Flug Bahn wird heute für Segel Flug genutzt
@YummehPyroFlakes6 жыл бұрын
I live 300m from that airfield.. Sadly it got destroyed.
@davidlundmark93595 жыл бұрын
That's a shame..
@richardalvarado37593 жыл бұрын
Tecnología alemana siempre a la punta.
@andyw2488 жыл бұрын
This is awesome footage and commentary! Is this your original work? If not, could you point us at that?
@Preyhawk813 жыл бұрын
I think with landing gear and and hybrid nox engine it would be interesting for the comercial market.
@rescue2706 жыл бұрын
This thing was not a rocket powered airplane, as we would think. It is, in essence, a rocket propelled glider!
@mw9297 Жыл бұрын
All airplanes can be that given enough time
@1915sanderson12 жыл бұрын
great vid! very informative.
@AndreiTupolev5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I'd want to be that cameraman standing that close to it with smoke issuing from it after landing. I think I'd prefer to keep to some distance.
@n9oqu7 жыл бұрын
it looks like the begiining of the MIG-15 in its areodynamic structure. the russians took a lot of WWII technologies from the Germans after the war.
@KB4QAA6 жыл бұрын
Well, no.
@hartmutwrith31345 жыл бұрын
Operation Paper Clip from the US intelligence took all the prototypes, the blue prints and the engineers to the USA. The Russians and the Brits got only the left overs.
@pawepluta48834 жыл бұрын
@@hartmutwrith3134 they got enough. Didn't they have Willi Messerschmitt himself?
@user60087 жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea far ahead of it's time, although a complete tactical failure in combat. But still, those Germans put a rocket powered, delta winged jet interceptor into combat in 1994. Which is astonishing, and the Nazi's were crazy.
@walterseaman25565 жыл бұрын
Not '94...a typing error...it was '44.
@AchimReinhardt18 жыл бұрын
Danke!
@carloseduardopires65316 жыл бұрын
ALEMANHA TINHA UM PODERIO DE ARMAMENTOS FANTÁSTICO !.... MARAVILHOSO AVIÃO-FOGUETE , ASSIM COMO TODOS OS AVIÕES DA " LUFTWAFFE - WAR II " ! ... ( PELA TECNOLOGIA À ÉPOCA, DEVERIAM TER GANHO A GUERRA??? )
@williamchamberlain22632 жыл бұрын
No; they had lots of high tech projects that took too long to develop and had high unit cost of production, so they lost because - among many reasons - they dispersed their design, development, and tooling efforts, and even in production couldn't produce enough units.
@theenergystat75726 жыл бұрын
I think the komet looks cute :)
@m4gn3tic824 жыл бұрын
The one in the British science museum had like ski-landing gears
@markmitchell4503 жыл бұрын
That's an earlier smaller A model Later b had the tail wheel later on they even had a airo cover
@m4gn3tic823 жыл бұрын
@@markmitchell450 wow didn’t know thanks
@NOISYdog-jo2fq5 жыл бұрын
What's that small ass prop used for????
@AndreiTupolev5 жыл бұрын
driving a dynamo to provide the electrics, I believe
@inztazeta19283 жыл бұрын
Im here because i was investigating the LF-22 Starling from gta:O, really interesting video tbh
@parteitagkonstantinthernen51915 жыл бұрын
heute im wald am flugplatz bad zwischenahn die besten fotos im urwalt mit jede menge bomben löchern gemacht.im wald schlummern noch geheimnisse von 1945
@sk31370n2 жыл бұрын
wow how did they make it go so fast with such a little propeller?!
@HayaBub Жыл бұрын
The small Propeller is in fact a Generator for the Instruments!
@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын
Other planes went the wrong way using large propellers. They just thought, " bigger was better." Crazy fools. 😂
@goldfing58983 жыл бұрын
Look at the pilot's "GoPro" head camera at 9:00. It is incredible what was technically possible and done already at that time.
@masterolof1384 жыл бұрын
Landing it straight must be a fucking nightmare
@ConfusedAdmiral2 жыл бұрын
That's one cute propeller...
@gscranage45944 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, where do you get this info?
@monsieurbop34693 жыл бұрын
Wie ein Floh, aber oho!
@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын
Imagine other aircraft's performance if they had used the correct size propellers???
@ericferguson99894 жыл бұрын
The pilot at 9:07 sports a 1940s Gopro.
@windshearahead70122 жыл бұрын
9:07 forbidden gopro
@starhunterterra98497 жыл бұрын
THE FIRST TIE FIGHTER?.
@michaeltalbot82425 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it was T&C stoff not stuff?
@walterseaman25565 жыл бұрын
It was Stoff pronounced the American way...
@cheesechaser91134 жыл бұрын
Where is the boost ?
@charliecharliecharliecharl8554 Жыл бұрын
I thought the commit had 2 30mm cannons
@louislungbubble7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Costner is the narrator??
@romanhrj4335 жыл бұрын
*_Mini Space shuttle_*
@deathman10374 жыл бұрын
very interesting i know a bit about this craft but not much information thats accurate out there
@MetrakitProRaceII3 жыл бұрын
Imagine to be the test pilot......
@rogerhudson9732 Жыл бұрын
Did any non-Germans other than Captain Brown fly the plane under rocket power ??