Understanding Tractor Hydraulic Fluid (THF) - WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW!

[@MessicksEquip]

Check out our video Hydraulic oil science. Base oils & Additives. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHW4dGupl7t8sMk&ab_channel=Messick%27sFarmEquipment

[@jtownsend220]

All that time you said absolutely nothing.

[@markdavies4307]

12 Minutes and said Nothing except the stuff I sell is better, No place with Messicks usually great videos!

[@svtirefire]

Salesmen and politicians are a lot alike. So many words but nothing said.

[@WilliamReed-l1j]

You literally said nothing useful. You did not say exactly what types of fluid should be put in what tractors.

[@axelec]

Heard a lot of talk but that is all ! I most often consult my heavy machine mechanic who has been in business for a long time about equipment fluids.

[@not_yet_nifter-6423]

@@D73GT Mine says most dealers will push their own brand.

[@bobbylummus6020]

didnt get the info I expected from the video , Of course oem are the best and I use 90% of the time and always if possible . But there are times when a dealer is 50 miles from a jobsite and we have to finish . I expected to hear more about the differences in say an AW32 and a "universal" green bucket, udt, , udt2 , friction modifiers. Difference in hydro trans and gear oil recommendations etc . I like Neals videos but not this one

[@wernerott6282]

Told me nothing. I want to know if I HAVE TO use Kubota UDT fluid…or if Shell Rotella or Brand ABC is ok to use.

[@havelockbingley6794]

The Kubota UDT for my bx 2380 is very light viscsity, almost like water. The NAPA brand HF I just bought is much heavier, like corn syrup. I've put the new fluid in the front axle but will buy Kubotas fluid for the transmission.

[@QuantumWheels]

The problem started when dealership abused the price for a simple oil change is when the consumer started looking for alternatives and led to having many oil brands competing with dealer’s price tag.

[@samuelonthewall]

I was hoping to hear about a recommended brand or something. Disappointing.

[@thelastjohnwayne]

It is a crime that the API does not have some regulations regarding Hydraulic Fluid. America and the World exist because of the Farmers and Ranchers feeding the World. We need to take care of the Farms and Farmers and their equipment.

[@bday3896]

amen

[@markcole6475]

Pretty much all I heard was to go buy fluid from the manufacture of the model you bought! That’s like buying engine oil from a dealer when you can buy the same stuff cheaper at your local parts store!

[@TexasJones]

Not much information for the every day farmer. Just a bunch of scientist type jargon instead of getting right to it and having a line of buckets and saying what each one is good for. Just line up the brands, and explain why it is good or bad and what it does best....simple. Please leave off the archaeologist seminar type of rambling. That was so boring and sounding like a sales pitch instead of letting us know what the title said.

[@bobchiggs]

A lot of babbling without real solid facts, examples or reasons.

[@lloydparker4038]

The transmission hydraulic fluid should all be the same because tractors are always exchangeing oil. All brands should use the same Oil. If you have more then one tractor. Then when a attachment is used with different tractor.

[@ceadeses]

wow not much usefull info.

[@DelawareDevil]

I only have 2 BX tractors, a 2010 BX 2360 and a 2020 BX23s. So my tractors don't hold so much fluid, but no matter how much I need I'd rather use what fluid the manufacturer recommends. That way if something goes kaput I have Kubota to blame. If I use some off the wall crap I only have me to rag on. One thing I did change is not to use UDT fluid in my front axles I use 80-90 weight gear oil, the UDT just seemed a bit too light.

[@markwholbrook]

It's been said over and over but bears repeating. If you paid a lot for you hardware don't cheap out on fluids. It costs less than one payment to replace all the oil and filters on my tractor with factory brand stuff.. A false economy to go less expensive on this stuff.

[@dsnicker9719]

I wasted twelve minutes of time on this video hoping to learn something, and another half hour figuring out how to best say it was a waste of time.

[@mterrizzi]

Terrible. The guys just sucked each other off the whole time

[@Area51ca]

I have to do the first service in my BX23s , I came here to learn..........Nothing. I did learn one this guy stated it very Cleary his products are not certified by anyone . Your Videos are mostly very helpful ???????

[@snymat68]

Why ISN'T there an industry standard for something like this that seems so... standard?

[@xephael3485]

There are standards, just not a single global standard.. mostly very specific to manufacturers design. Transmission might need to meet 3 or 4 specifications and variables to be compatible.

[@JWimpy]

Exactly why I buy Kubota fluids from my Kubota dealer.

[@xephael3485]

Who just buys them from the normal petroleum suppliers and marks the price up so you feel better.

[@asolmonty5693]

Did'nt give us any information, just ran his mouth!!!

[@armedfarm3429]

Well, I learned nothing. Talk about the fluids, the different ones, what they do, what's the difference et all.

[@pierreleavell97]

Thank you for your comment. I will not waste my time watching the video.

[@gailebrooks3878]

what a waste of time where did you find this guy

[@jimsiggy]

I'm willing to bet (I am betting since this is what's going into my tractor) that TRIAX Agra UTTO Supreme Universal Full Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic Transmission and Wet Brake Oil, is twice the quality of what you sell, for the same or less the price than your oil.

[@bigunone]

Buy my fluid or your tractor will turn into a large paper weight

[@xephael3485]

The fluid is blessed in a ritual by the company board members to keep your tractor running!

[@cabbyhubby]

No real information here 😐

[@jeffbaldwin9842]

liquid money for the manufacturers and dealerships. Every manufacturer has their own secret sauce and they make it seem like if you don't use their stuff in their machines all hell will break loose and they sure as heck won't stand behind it if you do. Everybody is too afraid to take a chance so we buy into it. Seems like it would be very easy for everybody to adopt the same standards but wheres the money in that? Its a ripoff, kinda like printers and ink cartridges but MUCH more expensive. Thanks a lot. I just spent $500 at the local Kubota stealership on filters and fluids for my L3130 HST and I'm still a little hot. Feel sorry for the guys that have the stealership do it, must be a small fortune.

[@MessicksEquip]

Did you price that stuff from us? Would have been a lot less than $500.

[@jeffbaldwin9842]

@@MessicksEquip I did and no it wouldn't. They sold me the filters for the same as what you guys would (about 200 for oil, hydraulic, hydro, air and fuel). It was the 12.5 gallons of UDT2 for about 300 that was the real panty wadder. Couldn't get that from you because of the shipping to FL would have been as ridiculous as the fluid itself. Oh well, that will be the last time that machine will need a hydraulic change in my lifetime. I've enjoyed and learned a lot from many of your videos but I HATE to pay too much for anything.

[@MessicksEquip]

@@jeffbaldwin9842 yeah, no cheap way to buy 12 gallons of quality oil right now.

[@30shandala]

That was disappointing. I expected more from Messick’s, something beyond “you get what you pay for”.

[@adamnicholas4342]

Just dumped 5 gallons of TSC fluid into a into a 7265 cub cadet also know as a 2615 mahindra both companies claim to only use there product tractor has 600 hours on it Change hydro fluid every 200 hours it runs fine

[@AviewFromUnder]

The amount of total BS in the Oil industry should be criminal. The market has a totally shielded the consumer from real science or information about the true composition and production sources of these products, from engine oils to UTF. If you think for a min that there is dozens of heavy industry plants pumping out dozens of different grades, composition, qualities and flavors of UTF you would be incorrect! These productions runs would not be manageable or profitable if the products had to be that diverse. I cant tell you what UTF producer ends up with what labels or prices on them. However I would bet a large sum of money on the fact that the same product in many cases will see 15 different brands labels with crazy price variation. Come on Messick’s I like your videos but lets be real here! Support Tractors, tractors owners but don't support the BS of the snake OIL sales guy! Stock the brand products if you like but stop with the fear tactics! "Tractor sounds right in the morn but is making all kinds of noice in the afternoon" because you put shell UTF in it instead of MasterTran! Said the dealer to the product rep! Get real! Think about this when the dealer is telling you that the "double the price UTF is the only way to go or else", most the manufactures in the compact market don't even make the tractor! I bet there are tractor parts in our compacts built in factories with dirt floors because it was cheaper. Don’t worry though because we hold the highest possible standers for fluids for your made by who ever tractor.

[@orgillmathew]

Gord Reddy I remember when I bought my VZ Monaro/ Pontiac GTO I went into Motul and walked out with $500AUD of oil 🙄 I was young and dumb.

[@williamray5467]

Yep, check the specs for the type of oil / fluid and start comparing. Not long ago I found a replacement fluid for my tractor for a little less than half the price of what I'd been using with equal specs or better. Found Sinopec 10w30 GL-4 tractor brake hydraulic fluid tried it out and dog gone I've never before lifted the whole rear end of my tractor off the ground flat footed but this fluid did, so there is a difference.

[@allanpyne9647]

Thanks fella's for looking out for the everyday consumer. This was very informative you get what you pay for. On the same note its like buying a Kubota compared to a John Deere, in my opinion John Deere is better just my personal opinion.But others may dispute that so be it. Hey thanks again keep the video's coming~~~

[@johnr8476]

Didn't know tractor manufactures all had their own refineries, and made their own oil and fluids.

[@YogiLiberty1776]

John R they don’t they have oil complies make it for them to their spec. Ex Cat oil is made by Mobile one.

[@warrenfipp1856]

Well that was a waste of 12 minutes of my life.

[@johnbrennan2723]

Politician speak. Where are the details and facts? Dude just spent 10,000 words saying 'don't buy theirs, buy ours'. Cmon man.

[@devonreinhart1829]

How about if you have several different brands of tractors. John Deere ford kioti

[@gregleonard7469]

Horrible, waste of time. Bla, bla bla.

[@Logjam5]

Same thought.

[@blessed7fold]

I have listened to the video and read all 182 comments and here is my two cents on the matter: Tractor manufacturers are designing their equipment to take their proprietary fluids. This is partly due to giving the machine better performance but it's also designed to lock you into buying all the fluids and filters from them. This is why you must factor in the operating costs before purchasing the machine/brand.

[@comodice905]

sweetbeef they make money on the back err the frontenec

[@steveholton4130]

So if the tractor says NH on it, the best bet is for the pail to also say NH on it? NH fluid is better than the same grade JD fluid in a NH tractor? I'm not sure I buy that. Yes, either is better than NAPA or Car Quest or Tractor Supply or is that even true? I've never used it but I've heard that Shell Rotella is as good as anything else out there. sdh in CT

[@MessicksEquip]

Rotella is a very highly regarded engine oil, There's an engine oil video coming. That's different, there are specifications there. Yeah generally the recommendation we would give is that you use the hydraulic fluid intended by the manufacturer. You're taking a much greater risk there, then you are in the engine.

[@MrRfries]

Sounds like dealer scare tactics to me. Buy from us or else. I agree that you shouldn't buy the cheapest fluid from the box store, but what's to guarantee the tractor branded fluid is any good? Or even consistent year over year? Some new VP as a cost cutting measure might buy a boat load of inferior fluid and proudly put Brand x logo on it. Brand X might even intentionally sell an mediocre fluid as part of their designed obsolescence plan. Brand X might want you to buy a new tractor in 10 years. As long as it makes it out of warranty it's good enough. How do you find the truly superior fluid? Again I'm talking premium fluid, not bargain fluid.

[@strangefruit8776]

Roger Fries that was kind of my thought. I was once told any oil is better than no oil. Granted I know that has its limitations but it’s my opinion that keeping the right type of fluid fresh will do more for you than just running max hours on a given brand name. You’re still taking them at their word and it’s not good for a whole lot. I’m sure most of them aren’t going to do an oil sample when you take one in to do warranty work and if their oil was the only one to run them they probably would. Bottom line I think it’s debatable both ways. I do think the safe bet is brand x fluid for brand x machine but who’s to say what’s better. It would be nice to see some standardization but I don’t see it happening if they can keep calling theirs best.

[@MessicksEquip]

The same oil goes in new tractors and old. if a manufacturer rolled the dice, it could have catastrophic consequences on their warranty claims. An extra 10 bucks on a bucket of oil compared to a transmission repair ?!?!?!

[@onelonleyfarmer]

I have found the manufacturers brand of oil really what you should use two words that do not ever go together. GOOD AND CHEAP! Good oil is not cheap to buy but it will work like it’s supposed to put cheap oil in and it’s hell on the working parts of the tractor and will cause failure. And that will cost you way more than a cheap drum of oil

[@HanShiongSiah]

Are you sure it is $10/Bucket? Is that Bucket 1L? You saying that it is $40 extra to use in M135GX. I would use Kubota oil or Even Kubota Approved oil. Kubota UDT2 (at dealer) is like $8.6(USD)/L(litres) or $31.82/Gal MORE with my Brand X THF(10-30W Transfluid) here in Australia. At level of $8.6/L if i need to change my M135GX(500hr) or M125X(400Hr) ~ 65L which will = $559 per difference in fill, If i use 1000Hr a year. that is $1198/Yr in additional cost. Brand X has a warranty on their oil which will cover any damage cause by their oil in your machine. Another good example is Kubota UDT2 - $3200/205L = $15/L Made by Valvoline (Australia) According to Kubota SDS Valvoline Farmplus Hydratrans - $151.99/20L = $7.59/L Recommend Oil by Valvoline Australia Lube Guide for M135GX. Kubota Part guy face screwed up when he told me the Kubota UDT2 prices. Say look else where. That is the best he can do on the price. I do hope Kubota Australia drop their price on oils like they did with their Oil and Fuel Filter recently. but not Trans/Hyd filters and Fluid. If you WANT your customer to use your oil and filters, bring it down to similar or just a bit more ie 20%(maybe 30%) then aftermarket oil and filters instead if 200% difference. You wandering people don't use Kubota Oil and Filter. Since the price drop in Oil and Fuel Filters, I have now bought original filters. As they only $10 more then OEM filtres. Just had a look at you prices for UDT2 - $103/5Gal. That is far cheaper then Australia Kubota UDT2 at $270/5Gal(eqv). I think it would cheaper to ship the UDT2 to here from you with shipping cheaper then buying it local. Ever thinking about opening up a dealership or branch in Australia? You will make a massive killing in profit here! No kidding!

[@MrRfries]

To be clear, I'm not talking about cheap oil. I want the best possible oil. I'm just not convinced house brand oil is the best. Perhaps Orange brand oil is the absolute best product, but that does not mean red or green oil is any good at all . I want my tractor to live forever or at least longer than me, I'm not convinced the manufacturer or dealer really wants me to not buy another tractor. According to this video there is no way to know good from bad oil which also means there is no way to tell if tractor branded oil is any good either. I'd like to see some proof. I hate fear marketing.

[@markparks1854]

A lot said about "in their opinion" they can say what they want, just as you did here. Where are your facts?

[@evandickens3917]

I use Lucas oil in mine works fine I've used the john deere don't run the oil out any oil is better then none

[@dancedance3440]

O.K.??? This just made my head hurt.

[@xephael3485]

Equipment manufacturers are the jackoffs in this scenario. Oils, additives, everything has standards and specifications... they're refusing to publish them! Specify the standards the system is designed for!

[@casycasy5199]

thanks this was enlightening great video

[@comodice905]

neele tried to walk this rep through the fine points

[@larrybrown3872]

If the oil goes right it's not ok but if the oil left it's ok, but it's ok if you drain the oil it well be dry ???

[@DennisKenneybees]

Bla Bla verbal diarrhea. Please get to the point .

[@crusader777]

Sales pitch ! Boring and not what the title says !

[@bighoudini6130]

The explanation was like a tractor stuck in the mud.

[@sideskraft]

Too much generalization and subjectivity. Next time bring in "competitive" products and discuss the features and benefits objectively in a fact based presentation. By not doing this the viewer walks away assuming the product isn't any better than others and the pitch didn't provide anything of substance because there were no specific benefits.

[@ericreighard4770]

Why is the Dealer guy so uncomfortable when he's listening?

[@85square]

just wondering the same thing he is acting like he is high

[@shesh17]

Some people have a condition where they mouth the words of other people while they speak. No big deal.

[@gregeiler6755]

I have really enjoyed my BX25D. I use it almost every weekend and day off. Can you do a video about aligning your implement, (particularly the Land Pride reverse tiller). I used my driveway to get it level, but it appears to track behind the tractor about 4 inches closer on one side vs another. Thank you for the work you put into your videos.

[@bobbysipes7994]

they need to get someone who is capable of explaining what he is supposed to be talking about.

[@bigcelery33]

Great video as always and especially timely for me. I do have a question that perhaps you can offer some guidance on. Is VG 46 hydraulic oil the same as 20W hydraulic oil? From online research, it seems that ISO VG46 is about the same viscosity as 20W, but I am not 100% sure. I am a bit low for my tractor and want to add but want to make sure it is the right one. Per my owner’s manual (tractor is a 15 year+ Snapper (my understanding is it is actually a PowerKing sold under Snapper nameplate) with only just over 300 hours use with a Peerless 2500 transaxle and Eaton Model 11 pump) it says to use VG 46 hydraulic oil in one place and in another place in the owner's manual it states to use 20W hydraulic oil or 30W on older machines with worn parts. Given the low hours and good condition of the tractor, it seems 20W is the right one, assuming that is also VG 46 equivalent. In addition, from Eaton’s website, I found their technical Bulletin 3-401 for recommended fluids and cleanliness for Model 11 which stated: “The preferred fluid viscosity is the same as that specified by SAE 20W-20.” My local Tractor Supply had a Mystic brand ISO 46 hydraulic fluid that I just purchased but have not added to my tractor yet under the assumption it is 20W equivalent. The back label on the Mystic brand specifically said can be used on Eaton pumps. Any advice would be appreciated.

[@Ruflove]

Rotella HD is the gold standard by far. The only other THF I’d consider is John Deere Hy-Gard or Delvac. Stay clear of private branded fluids sold at Tractor Supply, Atwood’s, Rural King, etc. I also like Rotella T5 diesel engine oil and Rotella ELC coolant. Do it right the first time.

[@roberthenry9319]

I have never seen an "information" video with as many negative-even angry- viewer comments as this one. And what is wrong with Neal? He sure looks nervous and downright goofy. Never seen him look like this before.

[@MessicksEquip]

I let the speaker go where he wanted with this. I did my own updated version on this topic about 6 months ago that I think comes across a lot better.

[@mydick7429]

I agree with most people on here. 1. The bald guy put me to sleep everytime he opened his mouth. 2. I am not going to stop work run to a dealer miles and miles away when a TSC, or Rural King is down the road. There has to be oil Kubota, Deere, Cat, and others can say are good oils to put into a machine. I refuse to slap Kubota brand stuff into my machine always and forever. I'm sure these oils are tested by someone, so someone can weigh in on if a oil will do the job.

[@MessicksEquip]

I think the issue Matt was trying to get across, is that if it's not the OEM oil, no one really knows what it is as there is no specification or standards. There are some great oils out there, but there's really no way to know. Fundamentally the only company that cares about your tractor, is the manufacturer.

[@davelariviere682]

Maybe it’s Maybelline!

[@huffywig8638]

Where do I put my hydraulic fluid in my tractor it’s a mf 165 and what type of hydraulic fluid does it take?

[@derrekmitchell1012]

We run hydraulic fluid from TSC it's way cheaper and we have never had a issue with any of our equipment. They just want you to buy OEM fluid so they make more money

[@DJRComputing]

12 mins said absolutely nothing useful, way to go guys!

[@briankreger433]

Doesn't blackstone test that. I would like to see the numbers.

[@itsthatguy5742]

There seems to be a lot of confusion over the information in this video. Perhaps I can share something that will help. I’ve been an automotive technician for 21 years. I see some disturbing patterns with customer perception of lubricants. The worst is brand loyalty. If you want to be loyal to a brand, buy shares in the company. The brand that you like may not make a lubricant suitable for your application. The information on the front of the container is almost meaningless when determining application. The vehicle manufacturers engineers will decide what the make up of the oil should be and then produce a specification #. They will then work with a ( usually 1) oil company to produce it. That is the only product that the manufacturer will stand behind. Look for that product, with that specification # on it. That one product may not be widely available. I repair engines and carbon clutch differentials weekly, that should never need to be touched. Sadly, oversight on lubricant marketing in the U.S. is almost nonexistent. Some equipment have very specific lubricant needs, others do not. Most if not all modern engines, transmissions and driveline components have specific needs that cannot be met by just any oil. When you consider the repair or replacement cost of a hydrostatic transmission, gambling with oil specifications just isn’t worth the risk.

[@rikertvonfulton16]

Russel thank you for the info.I will take your words to heart.

[@techytrendysolutions6063]

Can you make a video like crisfix.and eric the car guy?

[@UtwoBed]

Why would a manufacturer be concerned about providing a superior oil? Isn't it in their best self interest to have that machine wear out so they can sell you a new one?

[@Redneck_Ed]

Because they have 5 or 6 years of warranty on the powertrain, so in that about of time a poor quality fluid is likely to cause a failure.

[@pbc1951]

Don't Watch, Don't Waste 12 mins here.

[@dave-yj9mc]

Thanks you saved me 8 mins!

[@zacharycoslic1274]

What’s your opinion on John Deere hygard and hygard low viscosity? I use hygard in my cub cadets and all of my other hydraulic equipment.

[@aarondebalko1864]

Babaling waste of time dont watch

[@toddboden972]

What's up with the guy leaning on the buckets! He's looking around at other people making funny faces. Real serious stuff A?

[@ggem8125]

Bad job I thought I was going to learn about the fluid as it relates to the various drives and transmissions. What you covered in this video could have been done in two sentences. The only good question you asked the guest had no answer. Definitely a do over.

[@ericperkins3078]

Jeez, dude. Sales pitch. That's it.

[@TriggerTravels]

He hardly answered any of the questions he was asked.

[@portedadrien9293]

Nice informative video! If there are a litle bit to much of hydrostatic oil in the tractor, do you know if its going to hurts the machine?

[@MessicksEquip]

unlikly. There are breather ports to allow it to overflow.

[@portedadrien9293]

@@MessicksEquip Thanks In all of tractor? (Massey Ferguson GC2610)

[@jamesgore9612]

It's killing Neil not to be talking... that or he is doing the pee-pee dance!!😂

[@MessicksEquip]

All that goes though my head is where I want this to be going to be engaging.

[@jamesgore9612]

@@MessicksEquip love your videos and I agree about doing what the manufacturer recommends when it comes to equipment.

[@davidmorgan9095]

good video, thank you..

[@Lanninglongarmmowing]

Good video. We have a Ford 1948 8n. Do you think Napa gear oil is ok to use in it? The manual will say to use Ford branded oil.

[@MessicksEquip]

From what I've seen Napa doesn't exactly sell high-quality stuff. I'd want a better brand oil. It likely wouldn't cause an issue, newer equipment is much more sensitive than old.

[@Lanninglongarmmowing]

@@MessicksEquip What oil would you recommend in it? Now remember it's almost 70 years old so things in it are "a little loose." Lol.

[@MessicksEquip]

Means nothing. Valvoline just bottles it. Says nothing about the quality of the product Napa speced.

[@MikeDPlxztc]

@@Lanninglongarmmowing TRIAX

[@geneticdisorder1900]

Well at least they are not pushing that cheap 303 crap in the yellow bucket, which recently has a class action law suit against it, for burning out pumps and transmissions.

[@hennerschmidt5964]

My Kuboto Operator' s manual recommends alternatives in case of lack of Kubota UDT. Mine is a L2850D (1993). Can I use Super UDT? What will the effects of using one of the alternative brands Kubota mentioned in the booklet?

[@MessicksEquip]

Super is only an improvement. Gear drive tractors are pretty tolerant of different fluids, much more so than hydrostatics.

[@hennerschmidt5964]

@@MessicksEquip Thanks for the quick response.

[@jimstein8249]

Does the fluid sold at Napa with the Ford New Holland listed on the container inferior to the fluid from the dealership?

[@MessicksEquip]

In the absence of a published specification, no one can say. Fluids do tend to be one of those things you get what you pay for.

[@davidmorgan9095]

Yesterday I finally bought Grasshopper hy tran oil for my 720K...It has performed well for me using 25$/five gallon bucket stamped 303 since buying in used May of 2007, but thinking about the final drives costing $1500 each, used, in good cond, I decided 180$ for oil ever 1000 hours wasn't bad at all...I remember synthetic oil in our semi tractors' transmissions ran cooler than cheap oil, so there is good reason to use good oil...We use Cat hyd tran oil and coolant in our heavy equipment..

[@floydhorslerjr8422]

We have used Gulf oils for years with no issues

[@dmithsmith5880]

Can I get a tractor driven sideways off the trailer in my driveway for a discount ?

[@anthonyluna8746]

where is hyd locaded on my model 2001md 285 bulldog

[@gwp1ohio]

So basically, this is about where you want people to buy the fluids from what a waste

[@MessicksEquip]

Check out our updated video Hydraulic oil science. Base oils & Additives. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHW4dGupl7t8sMk&ab_channel=Messick%27sFarmEquipment

[@wudgee]

Superb information and advise. As newbies that was extremely helpful and interesting. We need hydraulic oil and are now going to get quality stuff. Thanks.

[@jameswest673]

Look dealers and equipment manufacturers only make money when you buy new equipment or new parts. How do you make that happen faster. Sorry fluids and filters they scare you into buying.

[@regsburg]

not a waste of time because you dont understand oils every thing he said is 100% correct

[@hphillips7425]

Understanding Tractor Hydraulic Fluid (WTF).As good as the other video's are I would not have posted this one. Corporate America raise the price 50% and they will think it is good THF and we increased our profit.

[@davidmorgan9095]

Wrong, broaden horizons, think clearly, many will look forward to being just as stupid tomorrow as they were the day before yesterday...OEM hyd tran oil holds water in suspension as well as having the proper anti wear additives...Have to weigh the cost of proper oil for higher price (what a bargain) against potential failure of an expensive component(s) in a very expensive system...Hyd Tran oil and coolant is sometimes more important than engine oil and air filter..

[@dungtran2890]

where

[@1996turbocamaro]

Good video - learned a lot

[@mikenicholson2548]

I agree 100 percent

[@EastyUK]

These guys seem clueless to how specifications work. Hydraulic oil has 32,46 and 68 specs. Well defined exact definition for the properties of each grade. If it meets an iso spec and says so you can directly relate the oil to how it shall perform.

[@MessicksEquip]

That's correct, except these are generally not used in a tractors hydraulic system.

[@EastyUK]

@@MessicksEquip it's because it's a relabelled bottle so customers don't just search something produced to the same spec that has a reasonable price. Ashland bottle Kubota according to the msdf sheet. In the procurement world Kubota will deal with their supplierd using the iso specifications otherwise they would have no idea what they are selling to customers. That spec will deem testing per various astms. This is how the supply chain works for assuring a quality contractable material in most industries. A better video maybe have been to show some transparency and look at the iso sheet to see what people are paying for.

[@MessicksEquip]

Your over simplifying things. Hydraulic oils to start from 1 of 6 base oils, but then additives are added that wildly change the properties of the oil. There is no spec for all that's happening at this point. You can seriously cause issues not running the right oil. In our case, we buy New Holland hytran in tanker loads. If you run it in the transmission of a Kubota RTV its causes noticeably worse performance than Kubota SUDT. These two are different base oils, both good quality stuff, but not right for the application. Btw.. Shell makes kubota oil now.

[@karllsauter]

Neal's tweekin

[@654rebel]

Who's the manufacturer of Kubota brand ?

[@MessicksEquip]

Ashland / Shell in the USA.

[@654rebel]

@@MessicksEquip TY

[@timhood6970]

Welp, if it's Shell, that means no Kubota oil for me!

[@mattm840]

So do you sell shell trans/hydraulic oil or another brand? Is the stuff in a gallon jug or 5 gallon pale the same as the bulk line your shop uses? Do all your locations use the same oils?

[@MessicksEquip]

Our shops only use OEM. We sell a few buckets of off brand but 98% of what we sell is OEM.

[@bobcattt8]

I have a New Holland 7308 tractor, Is the fluid I use for my Hydraulics/Transmission the same as the fluid in the front axle & Hubs? Thanks!

[@OTAlucard]

7308 is the loader model. I'm almost positive you have to use gear lube for the front axle

[@floydhorslerjr8422]

80/90

[@tx2sturgis]

Word salad.

[@guesswho2378]

303 tractor hydraulic fluid is the best protection money can buy. PERIOD.

[@bonnememoires]

good information, take heed.

[@LovesCuteokole]

no details, just total babble

[@grasshoppercrews1296]

You hit the nail on the head !

[@gentlemanfarmer2391]

This dude told us nothing, where was the education in all that talk.

[@shesh17]

I was waiting for them to actually talk about the fluids they were leaning on, not just provide their opinions on THF in general.

[@flintknapper6039]

Jesus.....verbal salad, waste of time....learned nothing.