Meta Mass Ridiculed By Internet After CEO Posts Embarassing Metaverse Selfie In Horizon Worlds

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[@garlottos]

nice edit: OGs remember when this comment was just a .

[@grandam67yt24]

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[@ThatTomato19]

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[@maiden6294]

Why is this blank?

[@universalgamer9615]

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[@naotohex]

Its just a fact that Meta is the last company anyone would want running something like the metaverse. We already know Meta is ridiculously corrupt, why would anyone trust them with this? They aren't even a company built for something like this.

[@BlizzardofOze]

Yeah I want the company that is famous for selling its user's data as its product to have cameras directly in my eyes, seeing how I react to their garbage and what I focus on and for how long and what I do double takes on etc...

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

I refuse to call Mark Wahlberg's the word the internet was using casually. IDGAF its nevee the metaverse with him involved

[@efxnews4776]

And to be honest, theres nothing new and pioneering about Meta, some 20 years ago if not more, Second Life was launched, and if I'm not mistaking, they already have VR for at least some some five years.

[@powerhouse884]

@@BlizzardofOze I am in the toilet 🚽 and your comment made me laugh so hard that i was able to poop 💩 👍🏻 Thanks for the Poop/laugh

[@Pastafari4]

That, and framing it like they're doing something revolutionary. It's ripe for ridicule

[@siphillis]

It's genuinely impressive how Meta have been able to develop a product that perfectly resembles their founder and CEO.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

Literally a blank robotic slate of a human being. It's fucking crazy

[@Ptah1130]

Facts

[@Spike2276]

Mark Zuckerberg Simulator

[@kxmode]

That's pretty meta

[@tjenadonn6158]

@@Spike2276 Who himself is already to humans what Goat Simulator is to goats.

[@JimmyFoxhound]

The fact that Meta can burn through money at a Federal Government level and not have it affect them is kind of terrifying in a way. A corporation that doesn't have to answer to the market or voters and just do whatever it wants to do is a bit... scary

[@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070]

Wow. Its like the people being lynched, shot, jailed and ignored for the last century at least we trying to warn the public about monopolies and maybe too much money is a real thing

[@chazcliffhanger8744]

They have accountability with shareholders of the company and the fact that it's basically burning money with no profit. Its either going to take off or get taken down

[@mado-wh4jv]

Is their money, do you really think that if it was the controlled by the government using YOUR taxes it would be better?

[@Cthulhu4President]

@@mado-wh4jv There are a lot of things that would benefit a lot of people that I would be willing to pay more taxes for. Meta is definitely not one of them.

[@mado-wh4jv]

@@Cthulhu4President Burning money from poor people in war and pointless programs is one of them? As I said, fb fall doesn't affect me and shouldn't you, unless you work there I guess.

[@fishbone5430]

The issue with the metaverse designs is that they're just so corporate and lifeless. They're so "safe" that there's literally nothing to like about them

[@matthewshiers9038]

Actually, Mark Zuckerberg might have thoroughly screwed himself with that screenshot of the Eiffel Tower. That building and all visual representations of it is actually a Trademark, owned by some French guy. If that asset is on the blockchain now, that's potentially one massive legal landmine waiting to blow up whoever touched it last, as well as anyone who owns the Metaverse in which it exists. We'll have to see how it plays out, but I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that mess when the shoe finally drops.

[@electricindigoball1244]

@@matthewshiers9038 Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. I think you might be mistaken. I quickly looked into this and If I'm correct what you're referring to as a "trademark" is the copyright for the illumination of the Eiffel Tower. TL;DR in 1990 a French court has ruled that the 1989 illumination made for the 100th anniversary of the tower is an "original visual creation" protected by copyright. Since then any illumination of the Tower has been considered a separate work of art that falls under copyright. The Tower itself has been in public domain since 1993 and the tower in the picture doesn't feature any illumination so I don't think any trademarks or copyrights are being violated here.

[@cri_c]

Corporate art always looks like this for some reason. It's almost scary.

[@pengo2418]

@@matthewshiers9038 The tower is public domain. The tower with lights is copyrighted.

[@pengo2418]

@@electricindigoball1244 Yeah that's exactly it

[@Luster...]

Metaverse is absolutely getting spawn killed with how fast they shoot themselves.

[@eliasfigarzon9813]

At this point someone should tell Mark to reveal his lizard /Android routine for meta, maybe that can improve the actual situation of meta making it less cringe.

[@dillonc7955]

A bullet is in an infinite ricochet and Zuckerberg is standing right in the middle of it.

[@cullenpinney2997]

Good

[@sengiko]

FIRST BLOOD! YOU WIN! YOU LOSE! IT'S A TIE!

[@DragonHeart613]

The sooner this farce completely burns out along with NFTs & cryptocurrency, the better.

[@Mrinsecure]

I've said this elsewhere, I think, but part of the reason Facebook was so successful was that it was cheap (technically free if you don't count the data harvesting aspect), easy to sign up, and had a lot of utility for the user. People *wanted* to sign up to talk with friends and family, find like-minded individuals, and otherwise engage with the product as intended. The Metaverse, as presented by Meta, is the exact opposite of that. It has a massive buy-in (just getting the VR headset puts it out of the price range of many consumers), it's clunky and awkward to use, and it provides no obvious utility to the user. It's something that *only* makes sense from the perspective of an executive trying to find new ways to extract money from customers, without concern about the end user experience.

[@Custodian405]

Not only does it not add any features of any value it makes things more complicated. Like that news about their deal with McDonald's. So you can go into a virtual McDonalds in Horizon Worlds and order a burger, and that burger will be delivered to your doorstep in real life. Ok.... but how is this easier or more convenient than opening up Ubereats or Doordash on my phone and ordering McDonalds from there? Its not, it just adds extra steps and makes the whole process more convoluted. turns something that you can do on your phone in a minute into a much longer ordeal. Who at Meta (or McD for that matter) thought this was a good idea??

[@Mrinsecure]

@@Custodian405 There is a theoretical world where this isn't a bad idea. If you're engaging with literally every other aspect of your life via Horizon Worlds (or another Metaverse app), then centralizing it and allowing you to engage in mundane commercial transactions via Web3 infrastructure at least has some convenience and novelty built in. But given how clunky and inaccessible it is, no one is going to be doing that who isn't a diehard advocate.

[@pairashootpants5373]

@mrlnsecure so true!

[@BoxLaneProductions]

You're spot on I spoke to a tech ceo linked to this and the consensus is those behind it want you to have it more than we want it

[@ianm1462]

It needs to be repeated: even if this looked like Ready Player One, the underlying idea is evil. Subsuming all culture into a rented commodity. This should be fought on principle. The uncanny valley nightmare fuel, and a weirdly photo-realistic Markie Z, are just bonus reasons to strangle this thing in the crib.

[@efxnews4776]

And honestly theres nothing revolutionary or pioneering about meta, Second Life already did the same as Facebook more than 20 years ago...

[@Spike2276]

@@efxnews4776 Buh... but web3 bro, NFTs bro, like ownership revolution bro, like unregulated trade markets bro

[@xaayer]

"Subsuming all culture into a rented commodity. This should be fought on principle. " A little late for that. Disney already owns, like, a majority of our modern mythologies. Take an ancient Greek from the past and plop them in today's world and one of the (many) things they would wonder about is that our cultural stories are owned by businesses.

[@igodreamer7096]

PREACH BROTHER!

[@fojisan2398]

That is truly some Alien Robot shit right there.

[@2st486]

"it looks souless empty and dead" a creation mirrors his creator.

[@Jordan-Ramses]

And DATED. It looks like something from 2003. It looks like a bad game from 2003.

[@Warriorcat49]

The VR selfie he posted is something I would almost be comfortable to send with a caption along the lines of "Imported a couple random models for testing. No textures yet, but I did finally get the movable in-game camera to work." The idea that this is a $20+ billion product made by one of the largest companies in the world, and is launching currently, is just absolutely baffling to me.

[@crimsonlion100]

Idk man, Unreal makes half of whats here these days with 3 clicks. The rest of this literally looks like what you make when you get Unreal, or Godot for the first time and fuck around.

[@jay252589]

It amazes me that he has casually blown the equivalent of NASA's yearly budget on this thing.

[@tame1773]

True lmao

[@HDGaminTutorials]

And the graphics suck which blows my mind tbh how do ps3 games have better graphics than a 20 billion dollar product I am astounded

[@tame1773]

@@HDGaminTutorials KH2 was originally on the ps2 btw

[@Davivd2]

To create something that has the graphical fidelity of a 2010 web browser game no less.

[@neobell9511]

and what even are they spending the money on??

[@RebelWvlf]

In all fairness, he was training really hard to not publicly blink and show his vertical eyelids. That's the achievement on itself.

[@drewwilliams7794]

This needs to be pinned 😭😭

[@hillieo9760]

Man sprays blood onto his patriots with dat viper tonguing

[@VladMihailescu]

horizontal* eyelids

[@Wolta]

@@VladMihailescu It's a reference to him being a lizard. They usually have a "third eyelid" that blinks to clean the eyes. Another name for that is vertical eyelid.

[@darkskyinwinter]

You're a jerk - cats have horizontal eyelids!

[@NexAngelus405]

8:18 Well, the term "Metaverse" originated in 1992 in the cyberpunk novel _Snow Crash_ by Neal Stephenson. It was depicted as a successor to the Internet that was a fully immersive virtual environment accessed using a PC or a "public terminal" equipped with a laser projector that projected the images from the Metaverse onto a pair of reflective goggles worn by the user. It depicted the Metaverse as an infinitely long street people could freely travel along with vast amounts of land on either side of it that anyone could purchase plots of and utilize for their own purposes. Some plots of land were open to the public while others were private residences or exclusive clubs and avatars came in all shapes and sizes (at one point, Stephenson mentions the protagonist passing by some avatars that look like giant phalluses). In other words, the Metaverse was basically Second Life (which was inspired by Snow Crash, btw) but in VR.

[@TrumpLester]

Their primary mistake is believing VR is not only for everyone, but THAT accessible.

[@skaetur1]

VR takes too much time to fire up. With all the cords and shit.

[@talanock]

@@skaetur1 quest 2 doesn't have a single cord....

[@samljer]

@@skaetur1 Gen1 VR was cords Most sets now have zero cords. or have wireless upgrade options.

[@tux_the_astronaut]

VR is not gonna replace phone like meta thinks heck many people have know can only play VR for like 15 minutes before they get off from motion sickness

[@Tee008]

It's not that it's not accessible, it's more of whether or not there is enough TIME.

[@roonkolos]

The poor thing is clearly suffering. Someone please put it out of its (and our) misery already

[@stolemycoconut5448]

Earth 2 looks like a leg it project in comparison to this! XD

[@BJ-zd2or]

It looks ugly

[@Ptah1130]

Lmao

[@deezy2k1]

I recommend we go on vacation to the meta verse! We can meet mark and go to virtual France. It’s Very attractive destination

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

There comes a point where suspending the death is more painful than the passing straight up move on. They’re mad no ones going to use Facebook when boomers & Gen X’rs die off. And their realizing they have nothing to offer younger generations lol

[@Wolfhardt]

I just really wanted to know how they managed to pour 10 billion dollars into this? Where did that money actually go towards? Down a bottomless pit? I'm so surprised how you essentially try to make something like VR chat but with a 10 billion dollar budget and have an end result like this. This deserves to be laughed at

[@juliamavroidi8601]

I guess it's a "too many cooks" scenario. They have how many people work on this? 10 000? No way everyone of them is bothpassionate about the project and competent at what they're doing. And those who are are gonna get slowed down by those who aren't. Also with a division that big a lot of time and effort will be directed away from development and towards administration

[@randyjax09]

The fact that he’s still trying to push this tells you everything you need to know about Zuck and the people he surrounds himself with.

[@taags]

Probably a bunch of yes-men.

[@randyjax09]

@@taags Exactly. A bunch of yes-men telling him what a genius he is. Same trend we see in every billionaire that loves the smell of his own farts.

[@oldboy4271]

When your filthy rich and surrounded by yes men, even VR chat figured out "legs" on an avatar....😂

[@MisterVercetti]

Zucky has a major god complex, and the scared little sheep surrounding him do nothing but reinforce it. When Meta finally crashes and burns, the meltdown is going to be a sight to behold.

[@hillieo9760]

Surrounds himself with surround-systems of himself surrounding in audio the monkey, mojo jojo

[@gangleri1358]

I just can't believe a multi billion dollars company is investing this much into VR/Metaverse and their product looks like a Unity asset flip someone made in a few days.

[@albertwesker295]

A few days you say. Looks like something you can do under 10 mins.

[@Rawnblade13]

Where IS all that money going? Obviously not the graphics or mechanics...

[@Shabazza84]

Hey, don't insult Unity. I have seen Unity games made by 1 person who looked way better than this.

[@Wolta]

@@Shabazza84 Well to be fair, I've seen unity games made by 10 people that look way worse than this. But I'd still play that game over whatever Zuckerberg is trying to sell me.

[@Revvqt]

seems like they don't have any vision for it they are just blowing money to the wind and also NO ONE WANTS THIS, even the people working on it don't want it judging by the results

[@AzureKyle]

The first major issue with this is that the reason it feels devoid of artistic creativity, is because they were banking on users to create the NFT's and stuff for the virtual worlds. The second is that all of this stuff was done better 20 years ago by a game literally called Second Life.

[@bentp4891]

"an alien with no true sense of what it is to be human is trying to make a product for humans" Yep, you nailed it. Thats Zuckerberg right there.

[@Jordan-Ramses]

When Yong-Yea calls you out for being robotic. That's like having Steve Buscemi call you out for being funny looking.

[@SheinelI]

@@charmyzard I thought he was a lizard

[@ceu160193]

@@SheinelI Either way there is something distinctively inhuman about him, like he is lizard or android.

[@joeywild2011]

Read this as he said it haha

[@tma2001]

a floating aquatic alien ? it all sounds very fishy ;)

[@thegoods1r694]

funny enough, his metaverse avatar looks just as soulless as him irl. pretty meta if you ask me

[@hafirenggayuda]

Boo

[@maklame3318]

I want meta on my meta with some extra meta sauce plz

[@SasquatchOni]

They can spend 2 billion and come up with absolutely shite, meanwhile you’ve got small teams creating games like Blade & Sorcery that feature full interaction and great physics. Sure it doesn’t have multiplayer, but if I spent 2 billion dollars on a game and it looked like Metaverse, I’d be canceling business and asking for refunds.

[@sean437]

We have long pondered Mark Zuckerberg's robotic characteristics, his lack of personality or emotion, and his bizarre appearance. I think we have an answer in his obsession with the Metaverse. He originates in the Metaverse and wants to go home. Moreover, he wants to take as many people as he can with him into his pastel hellscape.

[@WalterTheWalrus]

Alternate reality lizard men?

[@SquatsAndOats2plate]

@@WalterTheWalrus Alex Jones was right. Damn.Zucc is a fourth dimensional vampire praying to a machine god.

[@Zero001LP]

Maybe he's just feeling lonely.

[@Ciretako]

Masami Eiri?

[@wailmerwithinternetaccess7934]

Sounds like a great plot of reverse-isekai anime, if you ask me

[@Oz_Ragnarok]

The fact that Zuckerberg's avatar looks more alive/human than the real him says alot about the guy

[@jamesduncan6729]

So true. It's not even a meme any more, it's just straight up facts 👍🏻

[@vespenegas261]

"How do you do, fellow humans?"

[@nate_d376]

Lmao, uncanny valley for sure.

[@brianjensen5661]

@@googlelord1678 truth* Fixed it for you.

[@DominiqueGendronLanglois]

My question is.... why. I'm already struggling AF to teach my kids balance between virtual and real life, screen time limitations, how to deal with emotions through social media, have a good and consistent exercise routine in their lifestyle and then companies come up with this shit. I fucking swear the internet is becoming a wasteland of obsessive behaviors. On one side we have softwares that are designed to keep you on screen as much as humanly possible, on the other side we have games professionally crafted to suck up the maximum amount of money they can. Casino softwares. if you succumb to their addictive models because your brain is wired as such, fuck you. Infinite growth baby. having kids made me fully realized how fucked they could become left unchecked. Let me go back to my initial question : Why.

[@halofreak1990]

"Let me go back to my initial question : Why." Because people are easier to manipulate that way. You don't learn social skills or critical thinking in most video games, and certainly not on social media. You can clearly see who spends too much time on social media from the way they behave when they're forced out of their bubble and back into the real world.

[@ammygamer]

@@halofreak1990 And this is why, ever since I was a kid, I had a pretty good reply to "what kind of games you like"? "I like games that have an ending. And if there's none, then I'll make up an objective and make that an ending for myself, but I'll never keep playing any title, even the ones I really love, for too long. I'll at least, wait until I've basically forgotten about their stories before playing them again." I've always, always this feeling of wrongness in excessive repetition, even when I was little. Now that I'm older I can finally put it into words: it's if I'm grinding my time into dust, instead of moving into a new thing that will add more great things to my perception. I have always really hated it. Btw, I'm a actually game designer myself... Looking back, maybe instinctively perceiving this pattern when I was younger was exactly what made me decide to be one. It's really hard for me to just look something that I love, with so much potential to uplift people, being distilled into actual poison for their minds.

[@TyphinHoofbun]

You say "Wasteland of obsessive behaviors", companies say "Steady revenue stream with minimal expenditure of resources/effort". That's why. Big companies are there to make as much money as they can, an attitude which has shown time and time again that it is antithetical to art or human enjoyment.

[@natsudragneelthefiredragon]

@@halofreak1990 Very true

[@natsudragneelthefiredragon]

@@ammygamer I was planning on game dev but decided not to after watching "The Crunch Culture Conundrum" I'll instead pursue software engineering, but I need better social skills 😵 Far too long on the threadmill I suppose.

[@olucaspc]

this reminds me of that corporate art style companies use, tone deaf and trying so hard to be not offensive to everyone it becomes non appealing to everyone.

[@vylbird8014]

The art style was first introduced by Facebook, who internally named it Alegria . But these days, it's more often known by the mocking term Corporate Memphis.

[@AdaTheWatcher]

@@vylbird8014 I call it corporate barf

[@orektez]

ya.. even second life looks better and that came out 19 years ago..

[@verack1616]

@@vylbird8014 Fun fact: "Alegria" in spanish means happyness. And this artstyle is ironically the most unhappy thing i ever see

[@Caydiem]

Imagine having all of this money and still fail to deliver a product that looks at least half-decent.

[@larniieplayz6285]

Clearly they didn’t put that much money into it

[@LopsidedMoz]

It looks functional, but not good

[@Pyovali]

Metaverse was marketed as the "3D internet", but hosted by Facebook so that already ruins it. The concept might've worked in principle, but the fact is it should be as free as the internet is. Facebook is the opposite of free. Their platform is getting more closed and monetized by the day.

[@lethauntic]

It's hard to describe things like this. I'm an artist, and it's pretty much the same as with anything else, where you see or hear something really nice that inspires you to do your best. Things that make me want to draw when I see them. But stuff like this is just so bizarrely bad that it feels like it sucks my passion away. It's like the opposite of a motivational poster. It's like a really cheap TV dinner where the food was already burnt at the factory. I'd rather go to work and do my job than play that thing.

[@leinadlink]

I feel sorry for whoever had to model all this stuff. If they actually were a skilled artist, because this looks worse than my uni projects

[@Bramagon]

@@leinadlink I mean, It looks like a 30 minute unity project where someone made a green colored plane with some spheres in the background and some sticks with spheres on them for trees, then pulled some community made assets from the asset store and threw them in there without thinking about scale or fitting these higher poly assets in the environment. On top of that, the Mark model looks unironically worse than a Mii character...

[@osheroth]

Holy fuck that closing statement lmao

[@terrykrugii5652]

It's a game designed by a sales rep, it feels like. Not someone who feels anything for the craft, least of all this project. It looks like the sort of bare minimum effort that someone would put in to guarantee a paycheck, even if it's their last paycheck with the company, so that they can ride off into the sunset and do what they ACTUALLY want to do

[@verack1616]

This thread seems like the absolute real experience of an artist designer in meta

[@UnknownSquid]

Over 10'000 employees assigned to their meta-verse division, and now ten years after acquiring Oculus, they still have less to show for it than what less than 10 VRChat indie devs were able to release five years ago. It boggles the mind honestly. Roughly two years ago I got the chance to meet someone who at the time was working at Meta in their Horizon Worlds team, and the stories she told about how frustratingly clueless and disinterested her co-workers were about VR and the thing they were building, sounded like what you'd get if you took a load of 60 year old mechanical engineers and asked them to design a video game. Stuff like how after months of effort, they managed to persuade a few co-workers to create an account on VR Chat and join them there for a "lockdown Halloween party". Their co-workers were apparently mind blown at seeing an avatar with moving legs, and asked her what kind of animation system was controlling it. She had to kick her feet and tell them, "It's not an animation, these are my legs! I've been trying to tell you about this for years already!" Fortunately she quit Meta since then, and moved onto developing freelance for VR, and making content for VRChat.

[@gustavogoesgomes1863]

it's hilarious how meta, amazon, disney and etc goes about entertainment with the "throw enough money at it and it'll be good", and then puts the most cowardly and risk averse people to work on it... like, you already invested faaaaaaaar more than anyone on the competition would ever dream to invest in this, but you are afraid to take risk with the product itself??????? it's literally like paying billions already just for enzo ferrari to design a car for you, and then restricting him completely about what you think is too much risk to assume. I mean, if you have zero faith about creating artistic entertainment, if you are that much terrified about risk... why invest THAT much into something????? I mean, isn't the "metaverse" inherently a gamble??? investing billions on it and avoiding everything you deem a "risk" in the process is like buying all the tickets to a lottery and then locking them up a coffer and droping it in the ocean, to avoid being robbed...

[@gustavogoesgomes1863]

tbh if I had that much money to invest into something that big, instead of having an immense division to work on it I would just make smaller divisions with full creative liberty and see wich ones shows more promise. this means that most of the money invested on it would be "lost", because only the best projects and most popular artstyles and visions would be greenlighted. but in the other side, you would get a strong artistic identity, that would make you stand apart, and you would lose an infinitesimally smaller investment on these small projects than what you would lose if, I don't know, if I had only one unified vision development team hardware team and etc and it turned out to be complete s**t because of all the restraints and lack of creative liberty lol and damn, if we are talking about a social media, why not turn it into some kind of virtual event? like opening it up for people to vote and decide wich design looks better, and giving some kind of prize to the best design teams... I mean, there would have to be ways to avoid people getting overly competitive and too stressed out about it, but in the other side it would make it seem like these technologies were being developed for real people, with the own users input. it would look like something with a SOCIAL purpose, you know? damn, meta should fire zuck and hire me instead lol even I make a better ceo it seems

[@yeahgirl11]

@@gustavogoesgomes1863 Good ideas and good points. I've always wondered why the people who actually have all the money in the world are the dumbest mofos on the planet in so many ways. It's just common sense- if you're risk adverse, then don't go into opening your own business or running a multi-billion dollar company. People with tremendously less money are running their own businesses and failing, but Fuckerberg can't be bothered to waste at lease half a billion dollars to even put a LITTLE effort in this Meta BS? It's so stupid and just proves that there really is such a thing as having too much money.

[@What-he5pr]

Evil can only corrupt and mock, it cannot create.

[@zzzzzz-rn3oh]

Thats because they hired 10000 people based on their identity instead of their credentials.

[@TheMrMini]

As my current employment as a 3D technical artist, creating VR multiplayer simulation training, so I have a few insights/opinions to all this. This is horrendous. Its incredible that the VR headset that they build, look like this. Having worked with the Quest 2 since its inception out I can't understand this at all. I have had a lot of their models and looking at their code (basically unusable), I'm surprised how incredibly unstructured they are. This is what i would aspect of an intern. There is a consistent lack of any structure and it different feels like the number of people who come in and then left shortly after, the pipeline that would have been setup for this type of project have never been developed. I don't ever see this take off. But what it did, however, was it boosted any and all sales on VR training and other types of VR-related projects. which was nice.

[@MyBanannas]

"It feels like an alien who doesn't understand humans is trying to make a product for humans" Yes.

[@gabrielboorom2683]

"Coincidence, human, purely coincidence..."

[@lnsflare1]

You've heard of "Jack of all trades," now get ready for "Crap of all turds." Honestly, while I'm against trying to trademark individual words, Sony might want to look into trying to get their lawyers to convince Meta into changing the name of Horizon Worlds so that they don't taint their Horizon franchise with all of that jank stank.

[@willyguston407]

I can't wait to see the future feature length KZbin documentaries on the fall of Horizon Worlds and the Metaverse. It will be the best part of this endeavor by far.

[@stormvr1070]

It will fail. 100% agree. When the money runs out, or the investors had enough.

[@boi8328]

Jeez, just think, all the money sunk into this could've been used to improve the Quest 2 and it's sucessors. Hell, developing their own fullbody tracking accessories would've been way more lucrative than trying to compete with already existing metaverses, metaverses that have *LEGS.*

[@legojay14]

You saying that made me realize. He hid the waist cut off. He's embarrassed how much people made fun of the avatars being floating torsos

[@larniieplayz6285]

@@legojay14 is he?

[@stormvr1070]

Having full body tracking goes against their plan of all in one because it would require outside tracking beyond their headset. It's a flawed plan. Their current tracking just won't be able to get around occlusion so Quest will always be "no legs".

[@tma2001]

they should collaborate with Disney/Pixar to find the gem that restores the dead from the waist up ;)

[@SirLucidThoughts]

Exactly! Let other companies continue to make the software and focus on getting us all hooked with affordable hardware

[@FroggoVR]

Meta is basically 10years behind in VR development when you compare their Horizon Worlds to competitors that have existed for 5years already: VRChat, Neos and ChilloutVR. The things Meta makes looks at most as if it was made by junior creators at a 48h Game Jam rather than a big corp with billion of dollars...

[@XenBass]

Honestly, the gamejam games I've played look and play better than this soulless nightmare. And are more enjoyable.

[@dragonslayermasterornstein83]

Can you please remove vrchat from the list? I know they did a better job but with the recent circumstances...they don't really deserve to be there

[@Nudgarrobot]

@@dragonslayermasterornstein83 Current circumstances are ostensibly ***due*** to Meta and investors. It's also stupid to discount what it has specifically because of one bad move... that trickles from the thing we're criticizing. Make no mistake, VRChat is still currently the best implementation of these concepts, as much as I hate the gross mishandling of the modding community in recent updates. But all this means is that ChilloutVR and Neos will have chances to polish up and grow because of the players that make the shift. I hadn't considered CVR at all before and now I'm on there as well. Is it rough as hell? Yes. Does it have a long, long way to go to match VRC at present? Yes. But if they can retain new playerbase stuff, they might have the resources to properly get better than VRC. We can criticize the hell out of what VRC is up to right now without artificially discrediting what they do have and did right.

[@spiderjeranimo4992]

hell even Second Life looked better at launch.

[@FroggoVR]

@@Nudgarrobot I looked into CVR back in feb 2021, but no one from my group wanted to try it out since they had VRChat. But now with the recent events from VRChat being the last drop in my mug, I moved over my own World Creation to CVR instead since they should within not too long be near same level as VRChat after they took in the modding community that got banned from VRChat. Also that EAC update completely tanked my performance, from stable 75fps down to ~35-40fps in my homeworld (fully optimized) on Pimax 8KX, while in CVR I keep stable at max fps of my headset.

[@gothxm]

Everytime you were describing how bad it was and then changed back to the photo had me cracking up harder and harder lmfao. I don't understand how he doesn't realize this is just meme material. It's worthless

[@uwuowo1773]

when your "game" has shittier graphics than roblox

[@rachellejanssen2655]

My former employer, who constantly tries to sell companies on FOMO whenever something new comes out, made a poll on whether people were investing in the metaverse because that was their 2022 innovation highlight thing. 80% votes "not at all" and they took down the post. 90% of metaverse is going to be shitty VRChat with extra (but also useless) features.

[@dragonicmicrophone6594]

Something I haven't seen mentioned (in my feeds at least) is people wondering "Oh, what's Mark going to do with our privacy in the metaverse? He already sold millions of people's data. How much more is he going to sell in this Metaverse thing?"

[@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970]

I've seen Skyrim NPC's with better facial expressions than... THAT.

[@crimsonemperor2219]

Morrowind would have been a better example or at least Oblivion

[@BoxingDawg]

You shame Skyrim fr... more like morrowind

[@cullenpinney2997]

@@crimsonemperor2219 I think even daggerfall did better

[@afterhours1337]

Pong has better facial expressions.

[@kainthedragoon8081]

Sonic Adventure DX

[@Noblesix84]

I genuinely am wondering who this is supposed to target. It doesn't look or feel good enough for younger people to buy it, and I doubt the older crowd are going to spend enough money to be a part of it, no matter how into Facebook they are. This just feels like Zuck blowing his money on a personal pipe dream he hopes to sell to people.

[@legojay14]

@@NocturneJester Honestly it seems like that's the consistent problem. Every thing they try someone already did years ago without blockchain. Any ideas their uniquely suited to try they refuse to do because of how risk adverse they are

[@efxnews4776]

@@legojay14 Metaverse is nothing short than a Second Life with cartunish models and downgraded graphics, and Second Life has more than 20 years, and have VR for at least some 5 years...

[@MaMastoast]

@@NocturneJester The problem wth all these projects is that they are trying to force something into internet culture. community and subcultures on the internet typically form through organic processes of people coming together around something that's actually engaging.. Meta is trying to force the community aspect first and then gradually build up the interesting back.. they're basically put the cart before the horse.

[@compass2201]

Digital workspaces from what I've heard. Which would have a market imo. Needs to focus on refining a niche like that before trying to cast such a wide net

[@gamerito100]

@@compass2201 Digital workspace ain't a thing someone wants tho, who wants to make sure they get a headache for working? xD

[@alleracupcake7029]

This is what happens when a corporation hires programmers to make a game, and forgoes hiring the artists to bring life into it. smh

[@AP-hn8wd]

For as much money as Meta/Facebook has, I’m surprised the graphics are very cheap looking. Can’t they go the way of MySpace and Vine already?

[@JTruong3rd]

Vr chat looks better than that

[@abduljabars]

Better graphics= eats into profit.

[@ExpandDong420]

@@abduljabars I don't think they really care about that since it's burning billions already and they just won't quit

[@SamsarasArt]

At least myspace was fun

[@smailchali5102]

don't lump vine with facebook

[@acoolnameemm]

I feel far more immersed sitting afk in the Beat Saber menu on my bed while neither the bed or even my body isnt visible I feel more immersed only seeing the sabers in VR than I do with whatever Meta is doing Edit: the VR avatars playing Uno or whatever in space *does* look pretty fun. I would love to do that with my internet friends. _Unfortunately_ that is *_not_* what the actual product is

[@AhmedEx1.]

Isn't there vr uno already?

[@robinthrush9672]

You mean Poker?

[@battlion507]

@@AhmedEx1. in VRchat... yes.

[@ceilyurie856]

you can do that already. In VRChat. and poker. Or Blackjack, with hookers, that exist below the waist. Even fornicate with said hookers, because you exist below the waist

[@ClaimSuit]

Yes, tabletop simulator has it and just about every other card game. Avatars arent fully implemented without mods, but its not hard to find something for that online. There is also VRChat, but after a recent decision to implement EAC killed the modding scene hard the community has kindof raged to other places now. Suppose there is also something like BigScreen or the like to stream desktop over VR too, though thats a little jank and also just the basic uno game being played in a movie theater. not really avatars playing uno thenselves... Lots of options out there for this, but its all dependant on how much your willing to work with and/or work around through mods

[@LandBurgerMan]

Part of the problem is that Zuck doesn't fully grasp how much people dislike him.

[@Jarem24]

Come on guys, give him a break. He’s just trying to blend in with the rest of us but focused on the wrong group of people as an example.

[@MobileDecay]

Like a chameleon from another planet! 👽👽👽

[@andreasniedam9945]

You mean with us humans, right? Poor little billionaire. Yeah, he really needs his break. Buhuuuu, so sad.

[@Skorm731]

@@andreasniedam9945 You know he was being sarcastic, right?

[@TheDragShot]

This is why I tell kids not to stay im their basements all day everyday. They will end up as disconnected from reality as Mark is if they do smh.

[@KoffeeDoggo]

billionare are indeed an entirely different species

[@digitalunity]

I like how they rebranded to Meta even though their metaverse absolutely sucks eggs

[@petrasixz4306]

Shit sucks ass hahaha

[@GorFrag]

you say that like face book also was not a writhing hole

[@hillieo9760]

Yooo sucking eggs da new meta bruh bruh yayea!

[@digitalunity]

@@GorFrag oh no, I'm aware Facebook was a dumpster fire. It's just funny that they went from one dumpster fire to another one

[@Smile4mypride]

Mark was never an innovator or know anything about his own company. He stole the idea and other people lead him the success. Now, it shows how much of a CEO he is. He doesn't know what the hell he is doing and he seem to have a lot of yes man around him. He got too spoiled that he's ego doesn't want to admit that his VR has been a failure.

[@Peringon]

Ready Player One: When companies decided to make a virtual world to replace our crappy real lives, people became addicted and unable to pay for the most basic of commodities. Meta: Write that down, write that down.

[@Wrswest]

The difference is that Ready Player One's virtual world actually looks cool. This...doesn't.

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

@@Wrswest Don't forget the company maintaining it in the novel aren't cheap sellouts who auctioned off our data to the highest bidder and actually fought said companies in a landmark Supreme Court case which they won...

[@wirsindkunstmusic]

Imagine what they could achive If they use the Money for doing Something good on this Planet instead of building a new "world"

[@ceu160193]

@@wirsindkunstmusic Maybe they are trying to build real world version of Matrix, where all people would be in tubes, robots will do maintenance and actual planet will be lifeless desert.

[@wirsindkunstmusic]

@@ceu160193 doesn't Sound too unrealistic

[@tezwoacz]

This whole metaverse shtick just shows how completely disconnected from reality rich CEOs and top corporate managers are, they live in a completely different reality.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

They could have bought VR Chat for a FRACTION of the price. But hey, I'm not complaining that a huge company took a huge L. I hope Meta fails, it stands for everything I hate, including the name. A company rebrand for snobby dystopia loving tech bros

[@doublinx2]

Thank God they didn't, VRC fumbling on their own caused major waves in the VR space, I'd hate to see what would happen if they got Whatsapp'd, or worse....Instagram'd.

[@irecordwithaphone1856]

@@doublinx2 I agree but I'm speaking on hypotheticals. Meta made a disastrous business decision when they had a completely different alternative staring them right in the faces. It's laughable

[@twistedmezelf]

That would have killed VR chat instantly lol

[@mcstench8913]

@@twistedmezelf cant kill something thats already dead

[@UnknownSquid]

I've hung out with some of the lead devs of VR-Chat on several occasions, and can fortunately report that they have zero intention to sell. The company isn't set up in a way that makes it vulnerable to buyouts, and despite what salty mod users that have never met them would have you believe, the devs genuinely care for the platform and are proud of what they're building.

[@MuuToo]

It is really embarrassing as a VR enthusiast that Mark is now the first thing people think of when they hear VR.

[@cmdraftbrn]

when i hear VR. i think virtual boy.

[@bakasheru]

This is weird to me, on one side... and from my perspective, there is a very vibrant and insanely creative community active within the "metaverse". But looking at what Meta is doing, it's like they are missing all the points they are supposed to hammer. Seeing a video of their version of the metaverse is so alien, I wonder if Mark knows that there are alternatives out there that beat Metas progress at every front with two fingers up their nose out of boredom.

[@AL-fl4jk]

It’s because the interface is just the marketing - the don’t care about the platform, that’s why it’s so underdeveloped. They’re looking at the biometric analytics they can sell as ad revenue based on your every facial movement - I guarantee those algorithms are well advanced.

[@RealReduxM]

I've never been so afraid of a selfie in my life. What scares me the most is that the avatar's eyes are more alive than the real Zuck.

[@Antidepressiva1980]

haha

[@gabrielboorom2683]

Zuckerberg: Andromeda

[@Astadyl]

Since day 1 I have been at a loss as to who Metaverse is for: -business people who aren't cryptobros likely don't want to have meetings with VR headsets when zoom exists -conserative weirdos and mom groups probably don't wanna engage with anything ressembling a videogames because as we all know "videogames cause violence" or whatever -people who actually do want to engage with VR already have VRChat, which does EVERYTHING meta offers and more a million time better Zuckerberg really is missing the point of VR as a social platform, which is to offer a place where people can experience impossible things, barely any avatar on VRChat is trying to be a representation of the actual person, we have cartoon characters, anime girls and furries, you don't go to VRChat to walk around in a lifeless Mii version of yourself

[@JamesWiltshire01]

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[@twistedmezelf]

Me and a friend recreated eachother in vrchat. Fcking Hilarious

[@mr.shin.5138]

Exactly, no business in their right mind will use it, web conferencing in 2022 is allot more seamless in terms of collaboration.

[@zakwankhidzir]

It is not made for people to socialise and have fun; it is made to squeeze the money out of gullible people. My guess is that Metaverse is Stage 1. They create a platform for people to "socialise". Monetisation is Stage 2. They will work with brands to help with their artificial scarcity by producing limited items (possibly NFTs).

[@UnknownSquid]

@@zakwankhidzir Actually Horizon Worlds (Meta's Metaverse platform) has already gone into considerable detail about their monetisation plans. They proudly posted news about it before they even came out of closed beta, as if that's the kind of thing people are supposed to be interested in. NFTs were announced as a core focus long ago. VR-Chat meanwhile was started for fun by the original devs, and grew into something bigger as an organic passion project from there on. It existed for six years before they even added a single means of monetising it. Turns out, that if you want your platform to have value, you need to first create something that people find value in, rather than just promise people money and throw around buzz words.

[@matman000000]

Metaverse reminds me of that episode of Community where the dean became obsessed with low-poly 90's VR which only let him categorize files

[@greenamber9827]

I set the time zone. I set the time zone!

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

What’s funny is that the concept of a meta verse pretty much already exists in MMO’s of today lol

[@shi117]

Yeah and it's SO much better

[@efxnews4776]

Actually, the idea was more of a social game, and Meta isn't even something new, more than 20 years ago there was Second Life wich is basically the same thing.

[@pepoluanplays1090]

@@efxnews4776 And Second Life is still thriving. Linden Labs are still making a profit.

[@IndianTelephone]

it has existed for like 20 years now.

[@arnox4554]

@@pepoluanplays1090 In fairness, I have a strong suspicion that furries are propping up SL.

[@RaidenKaiser]

I have seen 1995 models less uncanny than that nightmare fuel. If Zuckboi wants people to stop calling him a lizard...he's succeeded he's more of a drone instead now lol

[@dbfzato-1327]

That would cause a huge issue with forza horizon lol

[@wigglyjiggly4498]

It’s crazy to me how a company that damn near created “social media” as we know it can fail so hard at creating something…social…

[@SIPEROTH]

When a company becomes a big corporation it starts working like government. Basically wasting money and being incompetent.

[@MrMarinus18]

It's because they think they can replicate that same success again but the world has changed. People are a lot more critical of social media and how companies dominate it and the pushback against the spying and the destructive effects on society are a lot more widely known and accepted.

[@jarotheboar8398]

This man really lacks more emotions than a dead body, I can't fathom with this multi billion dollar company

[@CometStorm]

So here's what is going on I bet; Mark made a good product in the beginning where people can communicate (facebook), but after so many years and tons of money, he has lost touch with the real world and doesn't even remember what it was not to be rich. He's living in his own little world and is just basically an alien to us. Richness does this to people.

[@DavidCruickshank]

By the sounds of it he wasn't exactly human to begin with.

[@legendp2011]

while it looks bad, I think mark is thinking long term. most companies (kodak with film cameras, myspace, vine) never adapt. a lot of people are laughing now. but in 10-15 years it would not surprise me if the gamble pays off. no way in hell people will use the current metaverse, but the resarch and strangle hold on the headsets may give meta a big head-start. current quest 2 headset sales are already competitive with next gen xbox console sales

[@mr.shin.5138]

Money changes people, but i really don’t think he was a normal guy to begin with.

[@dan_38]

@@mr.shin.5138 considering he was originally a teen that wanted to rank girls in pre-facebook, regardless if they wanted to subjected to that stuff, and just being a college dropout in large part due to his parents, I'm not surprised this is the Zuckerberg we have

[@knoxlam4909]

@@mr.shin.5138 I dont think money changed him. Money enables possibilities, it simply revealed who he really is

[@WilrenMagisa]

the biggest mistake i think is that meta attempts to replicate reallife experiences and infrastucture instead of making a new world for people to live their 2nd life with. this is why other experiences are better because they offer what this world cant.

[@SrMorua]

Do you remember that movie "The Social Network"? It seems we will have a second part, "The Social Network: The metaverse of madness" and it will tell the downfall story into insanity of Zuckerberg

[@kxmode]

Has Mark never heard of Second Life? It is probably one of the most fully realized VR environments, and it's never expanded beyond its niche despite many famous brands opening up virtual spaces in it during its early years. SL has become equal parts of Minecraft's creativity, a thriving small currency market, and a hive of debased debauchery, depending on where you visit. If anyone wanted to see what a mature VR space would look like, all they need to do is play Second Life. It's free.

[@UnknownSquid]

There's two key major differences between SL and Horizon Worlds. One in favour of each. On Horizon's side, is that it's built for actual fully immersive VR, whilst SL is a virtual world experienced flat. In my opinion this is why SL remained niche. It was too early. It had the vision, but not the technology required to make it as compelling a "second life" as it needed to be. Even at it's best, it's more of an activity, relatively disembodied and easy to disconnect from, rather than something a person "exists in" directly. On Second Life's side, is genuine creativity and freedom. Horizon allows you to customise an avatar within their simplistic avatar creator, and has decent enough world building tools, but ultimately it's bland and soulless. Second Life has since day one, been a place built by creative minds with the total freedom to shape the world in their own image, rather than just a sterile and restrictive playground for consumers as imagined by corporate aliens. Horizon worlds will fail to gain any traction with real people, unless it stops fearing real people, and figures out that they don't actually all want to look like corporate clip art.

[@n7creed629]

Reading this, it seems like the two need to merge. SL’s freedom with the VR space Meta owns. But… I doubt anyone will let that happen. Though SL had it’s dark side, and you needed to spend real cash to own ‘land” there. It was pretty hard to fully immerse when you can’t open your purchases because you don’t have your own home base with admin permissions.

[@jor8025]

SL is utter dogshit lmao

[@nowonmetube]

@@UnknownSquid whereas VR is EVEN MORE NICHE so it doesn't make any sense at all.

[@noliyoshida7486]

@@n7creed629 horizontal life

[@DarknessIsTheTruth]

There is LITERALLY an online multimedia platform named "Second Life." It was founded by Linden Labs in 2003, and has been ongoing ever since.

[@gibbounleashed]

Imagine if they'd used that 2 billion to make a VR game production studio. The quest would have a bigger pool of games and better quality

[@explorerguy]

2 or 20 billion?

[@gibbounleashed]

@@explorerguy however much it was

[@ddude27]

Man 2 billion poured into making something that still feels lifeless. God rockstar had a budget multiple times lower than that and pumped red dead redemption 2 which is arguably one of the greatest titles ever. NFTs and Blockchain technology never belonged in the gaming industry and as a software developer myself I just can't seem to understand why people go to these types of companies. All these forever growth type companies are getting stomped hard by the government and they should have never been so valued so high. Also part of the fault is the public for letting these companies take over and using their services. Mark Zuckerberg got lucky when he stole the idea of Facebook and was never a great visionary at all. We're seeing it unravel right before our eyes.

[@thespectraldogg1277]

You mean that he's lucky he got away with it after he stole Facebook?

[@neoqwerty]

Hell, the Miiverse looked less lifeless than this and it was lower graphics quality, HOW did they mess up "a miiverse clone with a creation kit"?

[@manfredkandlbinder3752]

Having been around since the first VR Hype around 20 years ago, i got to tell you. Did they just use some of that old software from 2 decades ago ? Just imagine how many AAA titles a decent studio could have churned out with 20 billion dollars to burn. Among those dozens you probably even could have had a few VR titles mingled in, if you really feeled compelled to have them. Who is even developing this at Meta ? The lobotomized monkeys Musks Neuralink throws out ?

[@akl2k7]

Right. It looks like a crappy PS2 game that you'd find in the dollar bin at WalMart.

[@jonathanfaber3291]

Lack of consistent art direction is one of the biggest turnoffs, those character models do not look like they belong In the world around them, not to mention their really weird proportions regarding head to body size Also as a gamesdev student, I can say with some authority that background looks like a student project. An overly flat plane-floor, some asset-flip looking models and a total incongruity of style. Oh yes those are quite familiar. The difference is students are allowed to be bad because we’re still learning, and we don’t put our shitty projects on the market to sell

[@deltaxcd]

For me it resembles al that corporate art style Alegria which actually was invented by facebook and become popular in corporate world regardless the fact that more or less everybody on earth agrees that is the the ugliest art style that ever existed. reality works in strange ways

[@iwillnotcomply1707]

"Zuckerberg, we want Ready Player One." "Silly human, we have Ready Player One at home." Ready Player One at home:

[@WIld-cHILd-1273]

Lmao XD this is beyond fitting

[@YaraUwU]

TFW a multi billion dollar company cant even keep up with Roblocks visual fidelity. I mean i guess they forgot what shadows are.

[@andreasniedam9945]

"It looks just so soulless and empty and dead. Just artifical and devoid of life and just lacking in nuanced artistic vision." Well, that seems just about right for Meta and the Zuck-droid. That's probably what HE and his species like!

[@SweD5425]

Metaverse just trying to be Animal Crossing or VRchat or literally anyone who's already done this better without VR and NFTs tacked on. At the rate it's going, I expect Nintendo and Fortnite to successfully integrate VR features while Meta continues to roll around in the mud.

[@jay-rweber4307]

For me, metaverse is still a concept and honestly, no one really knows what it will be. But companies are rushing to make their own version like it is a gold mine. They believe this is the "future" and they are trying beat each other out to whoever make it first. This is like when we discovered flight. As long as it does not work, people will just mock it. Though I have to agree with you, with all the modern games we have now, Zuckerberg's version is truly disappointing. He could have done better to appeal to the masses. Im just optimistic in the concept of the metaverse where we combine reality from the virtual world but on a larger scale. Whatever its final form would be, I hope it is great.

[@majesticf0x130]

Metaverse and NFTs are a scam, especially in games

[@MisterVercetti]

The Metaverse is nothing more than Silicon Valley's plot to con the masses into investing thousands upon thousands of dollars into a virtual life. Fortunately, people aren't quite stupid enough to fall for it just yet. When the plan is finally successful, humanity at large will have truly reached _Idiocracy_ levels of stupid.

[@tjenadonn6158]

@manny022 They read 1984, and their only problem with Big Brother was that there wasn't a profit incentive to it.

[@kated3165]

If they are going to try to make us play card games inside their virtual reality... can it at least be life-size Gwent??!

[@legojay14]

Unironically making card game animes a reality in vr would be both cheaper and massively profitable. Facebook is one of the few companies that could actually have the funding to pull it off. But it would require Zuckerberg knows what a card anime is

[@CiromBreeze]

I believe someone is actually working on a board game where you can switch to and from the pieces' view. Not Meta, but an indie company. Looks to be a way to have a more immersive DnD style of game, actually.

[@Sam-mx6yh]

Gwent! Gwent! Gwent! Gwent! Sometimes I launch Witcher 3 solely in order to play more Gwent.

[@LCKnecht]

SL is one of the biggest reasons I never even wanted to invest in Meta, let alone engage in its virtual world. SL was doing everything Meta speculatively promises, and more, decades before the Zuck even conceived his idea. Sure, you can't put on a VR headset and engage in first person simulation in SL, but that's just gimmicky fluff rather than a concrete system that keeps players coming back. VR technology is still very much in its infancy and hasn't really progressed much from the earliest examples decades ago. In addition to other VR experiences being out in the market and well established, Meta is just coming at this from the wrong angle with too little, far too late.

[@LokaJohn]

i tried metaverse once when i got my quest 2, i attended an mma show that never started and then got so bored that i never came back

[@MrSchimpf]

I'm trying to understand how an MMA fight would be rendered in the Metaverse and all I can come up with is 'poorly'. 🤢

[@justinreid2947]

@@MrSchimpf It's basically a live video stream like Twitch. Only that the video tries to be like IMAX and envelops you in a low-poly movie theater like setting. Now I would like my own personal IMAX theater, but the Quest 2 has nowhere near the sound or visual fidelity to pull the illusion off correctly.

[@disky01]

Horizon Worlds looks like someone took clip art from an interactive corporate training module and made it a VR experience. Who in their right mind would want to spend time in that?

[@StainlessPot]

I just don't understand what's stopping him from simply hiring halfway decent artists for this, smh...

[@apexberserker3057]

as someone who's been in Horizon Worlds (Meta's Metaverse) quite a bit let me tell you what it's like. It's always pleasant, but only ever pleasant. it's a constant "this is pretty ok". sure you're unlikely to have a terrible time because it's so safe but in that safety you'll never have large amounts of fun. Some of the most fun i've had in VRChat was had while doing things Facebook would never allow. we swore, wore avatars with little clothing, or were our favourite characters, or even wore avatars we felt best expressed who we are, and we watched popular movies for free together. Never in all my time in Horizon Worlds did I ever experience anything close to that level of joy and euphoria, however with that I never had to face crashers or people messing with my vision by adding filters that cause IRL nausia. I'm not here making this comment to say "The metaverse is bad" or "the metaverse is amazing". this comment is to just reveal the reality, the reality that in its current state the metaverse just puts you in a perpetual state of "meh".

[@noraarcadia635]

Honestly, that perpetual state of meh makes it bad

[@yukil.spencer3848]

"Meh"-taverse

[@apexberserker3057]

@@noraarcadia635 not bad just... not good. You'll almost never have as bad a time in Horizon Worlds as you can have in VRChat, but you'll also almost never have the pure raw fun you can sometimes get in VRChat.

[@apexberserker3057]

@@yukil.spencer3848 exactly

[@asdf51501]

I treat "The Metaverse" as just the current buzzword du jour, and have seen absolutely nothing whatsoever compelling about it. It doesn't help that Zuckerberg is completely ignorant of the fact that he is an entire walking Uncanny Valley.

[@maximilian3394]

the faster failbook fails,crashes,burns and dies the better!

[@supersonic443]

Rememeber Playstation Home, from almost 15 years ago? This looks like that, but worse.

[@SomeguyWhoLikesVideos]

Nothing can go wrong with making a “game” for vr and hiking the price of the most accessible vr headset

[@CapitalTeeth]

Here's the thing about the metaverse that big tech doesn't get. *_We can only live in one world at a time._*

[@dikkekater]

I was painting in vrchat when I was suddenly approached by someone who used a Hitler avatar. So naturally I endeavoured to teach him to paint, he proceeded to paint phallic images and pinwheels on the canvas. It was incredibly stupid and fun, just a random encounter that can happen in vrchat because of the costumization the hame allows. What does horizons offer to compete with that?

[@Lenariet]

I thought Hitler already knew how to paint - so even that was a lie...

[@dikkekater]

@@Lenariet he can paint, but he is bad at it. That is why he was rejected from art school. As he is now he wont be accepted either, I tried to get him to make something other than phallic symbols but failed.

[@thegrimharvest]

You can pay them money to buy and sell and show off your monkey jpegs to literally nobody in your paid for empty VR mansion. Beat that VR chat!

[@SuperSmashDolls]

@@dikkekater ...so what you're saying is that the lifelessness of Mark Zuckerberg's art predisposes him to be the next Hitler. Got it.

[@FanTaz1986]

high framerates on quest 2 then you have up to 32 peoples, really good audio , and safe avatars, and no crashing , i did try to push many peoples in to vr chat, but only horizon captures majority of peoples i know because for them it a social app not a game, it a VR zoom for them

[@Hades_Phoenix]

Until everyone has a pair of glasses in their pocket that could connect you to an insanely detailed world like they’re likely imagining, it’s not going to be the norm and replace phones and stuff.

[@undeny]

Even then, not really. You can substitute a lot of things but not literally the outdoors and nature. Contrary to popular belief people do in fact enjoy real life interaction and the outdoors. A lot.

[@Dietrich_Kaufmann]

@@undeny *THE SUN IS A DEADLY LAZER*

[@Mekose]

I still don't see that being a thing, even if people have the ability to wear AR glasses 24/7. Nobody is going to "log into meta" to do basic functions, when I can far more quickly and conveniently pull my phone out of my pocket to check the time, weather, and send a text. The only product I've ever seen compete with a phone is a phone watch that you can dictate to and those still connect to the phones in your pocket.

[@chuckdude514]

Except phones and internet are way better than VR and Metaverse.

[@koalabear1847]

I already feel dizzy just looking at people wearing ar glasses. Even if it will become popular in the future, won’t spend for something that would give me eye strain and headache. I don’t think people will spend on these glasses just to play poorly made games.

[@prussia9255]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the fact that the hills in the background are just green spheres slightly immersed into the ground

[@mrfoxmcfox]

i've seen roblox games with better graphics

[@craid23]

Twenty years ago I was super stoked to see all the VR cyberspace stuff from novels, movies, tv-shows, and games to become a reality... ...now I'm terrified.

[@Gnidel]

There are plenty of great VR games worth trying.

[@craid23]

@@Gnidel Yeah, but how is that relevant to the metaverse stuff? Its not advertised as a game, but more as somesort of a next version of Facebook (or perhaps even the next version of the web as a whole).

[@XenBass]

Metaverse isn't like VR games. It's the miscarriage of Facebook that should not have been raised like an actual child.

[@Jrdarknessking]

Don’t let Mark’s crappy vision of VR ruin the entire experience for you. VR itself is truly amazing, especially if you play the right games and “ experiences “. There’s tons of movies and videos out there that look great in VR, especially when a developer decides to put in extra work to make a photorealistic environment for a game

[@craid23]

@@Jrdarknessking Please don't mistake the metaverse with games, they're inherently different, developed for different reasons and purposes. Thus, the fact that there are good VR games out there, is completely irrelevant to the topic of the metaverse.

[@huntergman8338]

Something people forget is that the joys if the internet comes from the "uncleanlyness" of it all. The chaos and silliness. To strip that away from others is to prevent the best of humanity from doing their thing, and to prevent the mockable people from doing what they needed to do to be mocked.

[@Lu-bc3pl]

the best part is that official posts and photos are supposed to make the product look as great as it possibly can. if THIS is as good as it gets and still looks like something out of a creepypasta then wtf does the real thing look like??

[@ramonvillaster609]

META WHEN TRANSLATED IN HEBREW means "DEAD". Aptly-named, given the amount of dead promises this company has made both to its users and to its employees.

[@ramz871]

The whole of Metaverse can be described in a sing sentence. "This isn't new."

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

It's a new low for human creativity. But for Mark, it's the next step in lizard-human relations.

[@Aussie_Tom]

That 'selfie' reminds me of what you'd see in those Pixar rip off movies from South America.

[@mas8705]

Looking back at the Microsoft Avatars when the 360 came out, it is kind of shocking to reflect and consider how it was and then look at this and reflect on where exactly this went wrong. It also doesn't help that some people feel the Avatar of Mark seems more expressive than the man himself. It would seem like whatever their plan was to try and make this the next big thing since VR Chat has hysterically backfired.

[@strikeforce1500]

What even happen to VR chat?

[@Megaritz]

It's amazing how consistently hideous and vile ALL the "Metaverse" aesthetics are.

[@oskary2833]

It is all sterile and dead looking... just like Mark Zuckerberg. You can't expect something cold blooded to create a warm and inviting environment

[@Joosher56]

Literally. Everything just looks so bland and dead

[@ernestlemmingway1124]

If Meta's Metaverse does anything for VR, it's going to be object examples of what _not_ to do. On technical and financial levels.

[@kobzie_16]

When you think about how facebook started (giving girls a rating out of 5 stars) the entire thing has always been messed up.

[@freeffree4133]

Why is that messed up? Some chicks are not hot lol

[@simonrockstream]

@@freeffree4133and neither are you

[@birdknight6616]

It really puts into perspective how soulless and ingenuine it's all been since the beginning.

[@phantomblade89]

@@simonrockstream found the simp.

[@kurusu1892]

@@freeffree4133 if the girls put themselves in to get rated, that would be one thing. but the girls he used pictures of didnt consent to it