Metal Planer Restoration 72: Restoring and Installing the Original Oil Drip Cups!

[@bcbloc02]

So lucky the original pieces were found!

[@aner_bda]

So nice to manage to get the original cups back on there.

[@guubagaaba8391]

damn that's a beautiful machine !!!! look's like it was built yesterday !!!!

[@mdouglaswray]

I LOVE how you think ahead! "I won't own this machine forever" - a true conservator's attitude.

[@CrimFerret]

That goes for all his restored machines. Properly maintained, those machines should be last and be useful for who knows how many generations. There's no home machine shop that will push them anywhere close to what they were designed to handle and they really aren't likely to end up in production shop.

[@tek4]

Some nice Japaning would look fabulous on them cups.

[@plakor6133]

The machine looks happier, too!

[@SciPunk215]

That's great that the oil cups are reunited with the machine.

[@casimiriwaszkiewicz8962]

Keith, many thanks for pulling this restoration together. It’s great to see your joy at the gentlemanly act of the previous owner finding the oil collectors for you. Keep well.

[@glencrandall7051]

It's nice to have the original parts back on. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.

[@robevans8555]

Am excited to see this machine getting used on an actual job

[@bones357]

We'll I'll be, you managed to track down the original drip cups!! Unreal!!👊😄

[@k2smd]

It seems to me the reason they're all cracked in the same place is they fall off the machine. A small dimple in the base and/or a lanyard (jack chain or wire rope) to catch them if they drop off from vibration.

[@mikeshort4291]

Over tightening of the screw. Over the years the jaws widened and took more turns to get it tight.

[@troyboyd3100]

I agree with Shawn. I was thinking the same thing, the dimple idea is best and simplest. I would have thought such a great old machine would have had them, but the cracks suggest it didn't. Were there dimples originally Keith?

[@ronaldhorne5106]

The dimple for the screw end is a good idea. I would be happiest with a safety chain, perhaps with a quick release to remove the cups for draining.

[@paulcopeland9035]

@@troyboyd3100 ..Those are the original cups! Where would Keith have seen"dimples"?

[@rjkee5157]

Another option would be a cushion on the floor for them to land on. I suspect that the vibration of the machine will cause those thumb screws to loosen over time even with a dimple.

[@tosselton291]

Thats a nice addition to finish it off! Looks like maybe some of those Windy Hill things for scraping might be in it's future.

[@samhendrix378]

Great restore of a vintage machine Keith, Looks better than new with a self contained belt drive, Thanks for the videos.

[@chieft3357]

It's great you were able to get the original oil cups installed. Looking forward to the video on the speed control you plan to do for the electric motor.

[@dwaynelambert2944]

Love watchng all your shows they are really inspiring to watch you restore these old machines, Thank You!!!

[@stephenstrohacker7863]

Awesome to see original equipment reuniting. Beautiful restoration, Keith.

[@michaelrandle4128]

Great vid Keith, don’t think I’m on my own when I say, can’t wait to see this beautiful machine doing its thing.

[@llapmsp]

Nice repair Keith. Great to see the original parts used.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Thanks for sharing! Great finishing touches.

[@millomweb]

13:00 Loving your brazing rod - 3 pieces welded together :)))

[@timmienorrie]

Keith, your videos are some of the highlights of my week. Thank you.

[@ElTelBaby]

@ 7:45 Wow U came dam close 2 getting caught in that Grinding Wheel

[@broggyr]

I love that you were able to get the original oil cups.

[@nkelly.9]

More fantastic content Keith. Can't wait to see the chips flying from this beautiful machine that you have so expertly breathed new life in to. Thank you for sharing.

[@catfishgray3696]

KEITH, TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, PET THE CATS AND DOGS, SEE YOU NEXT TIME...GREAT VIDEO...

[@jerrypeal653]

Looking good !

[@MyLilMule]

Can't wait to see the first real job on this beauty.

[@camputee1]

I think it was a couple or three years ago now that I commented here that this was my favourite of the projects you were doing. Kieth, you are an inspiration. Fabulous work, and now I am so looking forward to seeing this jem of a planer do some fine machining.

[@FredMiller]

Cast Iron egg shells! I would bet vibration loosened the thumb screws and they at one time or another they hit the floor. Nice repairs Keith!

[@edwardwilson990]

I might be as excited as you to see the original oil cups reunited with the planer.

[@terminalpsychosis8022]

Not only OEM oil cups, but the originals that came with THAT machine? SCORE! Ohhhh that's a beautiful thing. This is one of the most interesting, unusual machines in the shop. Anyone can have a shaper, there are hundreds of models. This one though... real blast from the past. But that's not to say it's not fully worthy of quality production. Very much lookin' forward to seeing it putting out parts.

[@davidzindman]

You look quiet happy with the cups on the planer glad you got them

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Like how things come together

[@clydecessna737]

I hope and believe Keith will live forever.

[@JohnDoe-es5xh]

At first glance I thought, you got some coconut halves laying on the table. 😁

[@jeremycable51]

Prefect application for a vfd I like em on about all the older machines makes them so much more versatile

[@jwaterous224]

More fireworks from the site of the metal planer restoration!

[@51ubetcha]

I was watching Kurtis at Cutting Edge Engineering doing some cast iron repairs. He was using something he called a puddle gun. Similar to spray welding , but puts more material down at a lower temp than welding. Very interesting concept. Do you know if there is something similar here in the U.S?

[@dcviper985]

That was such a cool video. I think I've seen Abom do something similar (not just the spray welding)

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

That was great! I am restoring a small vintage hand powered water pump.. I’ll be fixing the cast iron with Allstate 11 brazing alloy, but if I had iron needing a high strength repair I would be looking for someone with the ability to spray like Curtis. That was a great instructional video..

[@yqwgjsg]

Kurtis is an amazing machinist. He keeps his talking to a minimum and on subject. Many of my favorite channels have become more talkers than doer’s.

[@Orxenhorf]

@@yqwgjsg Don't forget Karen's videography skills. She gets some of the best footage of chips & curls I've ever seen.

[@Coveangel]

@@Orxenhorf also Homeless! He works very hard keeping Curtis and Karen safe. 10 fingers, 10 toes

[@guitarwreck9004]

Drill countersinks for the screws so that the cups do not fall down.

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍👀

[@RB-yq7qv]

Amazing the cups survived all those years and they do look good.

[@k4x4map46]

Good stuff. Consistent uploads!

[@garybeasley4885]

Cant wait to see a job on the machine!

[@belyear]

I love when you described the conversation with the previous owner. I can imagine exactly how it went and how he searched for the cups in his horde.

[@rexmyers991]

Thank you, Keith.

[@johnwiley8417]

Spectacular restoration job. VFD is a neat idea. Looking forward to that video.

[@StevenEverett7]

Hi Kieth: Ironically, I just finished watching your series on this machine yesterday. I didn't expect an update so soon! 😆 I'm continuing to watch your channel starting at the beginning which was about 9 years, I expect to enjoy a great deal of machine repairs and restores. As well, I will continue to watch all the new posts you upload. Thank you so much for creating this channel for our enjoyment!

[@chuckmayerchak3071]

I'm very much looking forward to a VFD video. There are a few out there but many get too complicated. I hope you keep with a simple instalation and I'm sure it will be well explained in your no nonsense manor. I love watching your videos! Keep them coming!

[@kentuckytrapper780]

Great video Keith, keep'um coming..

[@707061756c69]

It has been amazing to see how a rusty machine has been brought to a live again in its old glory. Thank you Keith. About the VFD... If you could use a VFD with analog inputs (speed input), you could make contemporary controls to the planer. A potentiometer with hadwheel in suitable old box + some push buttons and indicator lights and hide the controller near the motor.

[@Jameson4327]

Keith they do look good. Keeping this planner for the next person is a great way to keep all equipment up and running.

[@garylarue5994]

Hi Keith! We have come to expect perfection from YOU....AND perfection is what we get!!... Great job! Those cracks in the cup's, could they be caused by the way they are mounted??? Also, it looks like they could come loose from vibration, and fall to the floor. Thant you for the video, and commentary! Best Wishes, AND GOD BLESS! Gary

[@forbesmathews89]

WOW what a find. Its hard to believe that those did not get knocked off and smashed over the past 100 years.

[@paulcopeland9035]

More like 135 years!!

[@connahjones8178]

Looks great Keith!

[@petegraham1458]

Looking forward to seeing it go to work!

[@barryfields2964]

I love the way that blasting cabinet open like that. I wish the one I worked with back when opened like that.

[@jeolman1]

I would have just used JB weld. Since they aren't structural. but that's me. After painting, you would never know, and would last a another lifetime. Great job brazing them though as usual :)

[@metrovick5417]

Lovely to see this machine getting sympathetically restored. The VFD will be an ideal modern addition. Although, part of me wants to see stepper motors and a full CNC conversion just for the comedy value...

[@elioboezio7107]

Keith, your audio is not as good as it used to be with your old microphone: the variation in volume as you turn your head while speaking is very noticeable.

[@mikecowan1471]

Looking forward to the video on the speed control you plan to do for the electric motor.

[@Jims-Workshop]

Recast in Bronze and polished would be awesome, and not as brittle as the Cast iron.

[@greasydot]

That would look awesome. Look like the old Ben Franklin fireplaces with the big brass balls on the edge.

[@RyanWeishalla]

Looking forward to seeing the project you have lined up for it.

[@recycle343]

I agree with your thinking. I think we would both love a steam powered shop.

[@whitecaps775]

Very impressive machine, look forward to seeing you use it. Thank you

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@samuraidriver4x4]

Nice that the previous owner still had the oil cups. The mic setup of this video and the last video isnt great, at points it's hard to understand you. Mic might be a bit to directional? I know you are still experimenting with the setup so no big deal

[@victoryfirst2878]

Keith, you got to be super lucky to get the original oil drip cups. I totally agree with you on brazing the cups for a final repair. Could you please give more detail as to the event you are talking about in Chicago ??? Thanks and have a great day too.

[@SgtCude59]

Great video I would love to run that machine

[@clintmyrick4128]

Appreciate your wisdom in keeping your mortality in mind (in speaking about the planer motor drive changes coming). Fantastic job overall.

[@MorseB]

That VFD will be a great addition to this machine. No reason to shy away from modern tech even on old machines. If they had VFD's in the late 1800's they would absolutely use them, so why shouldn't we?

[@tommybewick]

I couldn't agree more I always try to keep everything original. I don't restore old machines I restore old radios and I like to keep them original. I usually never refinish the wood but clean it up and touch it up.

[@skasow17]

Drilling the end of the crack is for the same reason airplane windows are rounded; square or narrow corners are places where stress rises (which is how cracks propagate) but a circular feature causes minimal stress. :)

[@RafaelHe]

The cracks may have developed by dropping the cups on the floor. These pieces are not subject to stress, so the hole was probably not necessary for the repair.

[@StevenEverett7]

Yes, I believe there were quite a few plane crashes before engineers figured this out.

[@ellieprice363]

@@RafaelHe Why take a chance? Extra insurance and good workmanship are Keith’s trademarks.

[@joopterwijn]

Keith, you could design a old version case to hold the new VFD. And maybe a old style handle whom turns a potential meter….. probably your friend an channel sponsor American rotary could assist you… would be a nice co-op!

[@brandenpatterson2776]

Great video can’t wait for the variable speed make sure to get in depth with the wiring!

[@cemx86]

At 9:39 - Keith talks about drilling a "stop hole". I use that often on cracks in plastic such as an aircraft canopy. Works great to help prevent further damage.

[@millomweb]

Well Keith, I can't say I'm a fan of adding a VFD to it but I understand your point. What I do hope you make are some proper feet for the 2 centre legs and remove those aluminium-looking contraptions it's currently on !

[@aldenfish6073]

VFD is the way to go. I have one on my drill press to slow it down for larger drills. Works great!

[@4speed3pedals]

Keith, Harbor Freight sells a cyclonic dust collector that comes with a mounting lid for a 5 gallon plastic bucket that is effective in keeping a vacuum clean while removing debris from the cabinet. Compared to most, it is inexpensive and comes with the screws, you supply the vacuum and the bucket. The dust and debris from the cabinet ends up in the bucket and not the vacuum.

[@ellieprice363]

Paul Thanks for this. I need one of those cyclonic collectors but didn’t want to buy the whole vacuum.

[@tomp538]

Fixed the ol cups... thought there was going to be a Windy Hill Foundry video casting new cups.

[@MPenzlin]

maybe you do not live for ever, but: please, make videos as long as I live. cheers Matthias

[@altonriggs2352]

Perfect job for JB Weld

[@ellieprice363]

Even old JB wouldn’t approve of that.

[@criggie]

Will we get to "Metal Planer Restoration #100" ? Make your bets!

[@BasedBidoof]

I've never seen tig brazing. Didn't know you could be that sensitive with a tig. I guess that's another reason why I should buy a tig.

[@billdoodson4232]

I used to drill cracks a bit in my earlier engineering days 40 odd years ago. I was always told the rule of thumb was that the hole diameter should be 10% of the length of the crack. That was on mild steel, not sure if it holds true for cast iron.

[@erneststorch9844]

Your painting the machine black is a good idea. It won't shown the dirt as bad. I worked on a tool grinding room and my stupid boss wanted all the grinding machines in the department painted the same color. The problem was at first he was going to paint them brght yellow and a older former boss told him no way . So he decided on white that showed all the dirt and looked like hell !!

[@davidsellars646]

Keith, hopefully this series will cause many other old machines to be rescued from oblivion. I hear people say that these old machines are obsolete. It may be true that there are newer machines that do the job better and faster. The old iron will still do the job they were intended to do. For some of us (most of us?), money will not allow the newest and shiniest. Your videos may allow viewers the tools and mindset to rehab old machinery allowing them to equip a modest shop at a modest cost. I would appreciate some idea of how much it costs to regrind beds. Thanks.

[@artgoat]

I'm a real fan of having everything original, but in my mind, I'd imagine putting some half-pipe troughs under the drip points, with tubing to bring oil to a common collection bucket. Make it all copper, and it could look very steampunk. But I'd probably also go with the original, just because that's what restoration is, for me.

[@ronwhittaker6317]

9:29 this method don't stop at cast metal, sheet and bodywork as well. tears and metal fatigue. mind you, it's not up to snuff for anything structural but cosmetic work it's just fine. a trick my dad showed me a long time ago.

[@miken3260]

I have a friend that is an electrician and he told me that VFD's make motors run hatter and modern motors often have higher temperature insulation on their windings. He cautioned me not to use them on old motors, they may not handle the extra heat.

[@kevinreardon2558]

I'd love to see that machine. Do you mind a visitor showing up? I'm not much of a traveler these days, at least via airplane. But for that I'd make an exception.

[@erichoff7926]

Keith, what are the four little pin looking things sticking out from the ends of the ways? Sure glad you got the originals, nothing like the real McCoy!

[@lunkydog]

It's probably good that he took the cups off because that's the kind of thing that gets lost or damaged in moving and shipping.

[@johnmcanulty7341]

Perhaps a two microphone set up clipped to either side of your vest will level the voice volume issues and, help with your natural tendency to look away while in narration mode? Once you have it perfected: Try some magnets to help ease set up on your apron? Just an idea.. Long time viewer. Good luck.

[@jensschroder8214]

A rough steel box with a modern frequency converter hidden inside is best...

[@johnlottes7440]

I would love to see this in its own playlist. I've been digging through the video list but I think I'm not finding them.

[@martineastburn3679]

My surmise on the repeated cracks - look at your video where you attach. The first start to loosen was with one hand. If it were that way it might have fallen and cracked. Old cracks. Tig or flame bronze into them - maybe with a v notch down the crack and a hole at the end (to stop it) and the hole filled...

[@paulteirney3587]

Keith why do you not use the grinder with the side hand as I have seen it where it has turn over and cut into the person's hand or wrapped into your clothes . I have a scar left from this as well. Safety is most important thing when using machinery as you can lost limbs very quickly.

[@katemoon7476]

It makes me nervous seeing that as well. Having a proper handle is an essential safety feature. Too many guy's at work are missing fingers, some lose them at home.

[@davidgibson5756]

Next steps, DRO and a CNC upgrade.

[@j.r.millstone]

Use one of the KB Electronics VFDs that have all analog controls. At least that way you won't have a super modern looking LCD screen hanging on such an old machine.