1 BIG Problem - Vosteed Raccoon Folding Knife - Overview and Review

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Metal Complex

Metal Complex

Жыл бұрын

Full review of the Vosteed Raccoon.
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@metal_complex
@metal_complex Жыл бұрын
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@vosteed_cutlery
@vosteed_cutlery Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your review and suggestions.😘 Since the release of the video, we immediately inspected the Raccoons in our warehouse. ❤And thanks to your suggestions, the lock strength has increased, however, that caused some button sticks.🥺 Since there is a cone-shaped slope in the contact area between the lock plunge and the corresponding area on the blade. In our cases, we have used lower HRC button steel (to absorb impact for the harder blade steel) with a deep angle (less lock stick while not as strong as full flat area) on the contact slope on the Raccoon. Some brands tend to use harder button steels and flatter slope.🙏 While each configuration has its pros and cons, because of the feedback from you and other customers here, we will definitely do more combined configurations (using axis lock and other locks) and to bring more choices for our customers. We love knives, and we love to learn and try new things.🤩☺Looking forward, we will continue to improve and optimize our product in the future and make a better balance among different perspectives.😊 Vosteed is a small 100% employee-owned company, all of my colleagues will do everything we can to make sure our customers are happy.🥰 As a new company, we have many things to work on, and we can’t say that our products are 100% perfect; however, we always strive to make sure that when things happen our customers and fans are well taken care of. On a personal level, I have come to know many customers, to me, they are more than customers and I will do whatever it takes for them.❤🥰 All of my colleagues stand behind our 100% satisfaction warranty program, if a product is defective or has a workmanship problem, we always issue a full refund upon receiving the returned item.🙏 Thank you so much for keeping us honest and letting us know how we can improve. You guys are the best. :D I wish everyone a wonderful and blessed day. 💖☀🌻
@chiefelephanttuskbong8081
@chiefelephanttuskbong8081 Жыл бұрын
Hi Vosteed, you guys are doing some great things and I'm excited to see what the future holds, I don't personally own a Vosteed knife yet but I plan on changing that soon 👍
@knottheory79220
@knottheory79220 Жыл бұрын
This is how it's done. When they were new companies both Spyderco and Benchmade turned out some products that in Sal Glesser's words were "pretty rough". I am now more interested in Vosteed products than I was before for sure. Gracefully taking valid criticism isn't as common as it should be.
@1990turboDSM
@1990turboDSM Жыл бұрын
You guys rock. Very humble and I appreciate that. Great people that make great knives
@macmccartney5760
@macmccartney5760 Жыл бұрын
Don't use all axis locks please. Ther pretty good . But not all of us like them. A good button lock is my personal favorite. Love my hogue ex 01 , ex 03 and ex 05. All nice strong button locks, loved them way before the button lock faze That started recently
@macmccartney5760
@macmccartney5760 Жыл бұрын
Is your trek lock stronger?
@g.dilla.
@g.dilla. Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think the validity of light spine whack tests is overlooked as “abnormal use”. Personally, I gashed my hand pretty significantly a few years ago when I was cutting through some thick cardboard that had packing tape on it. The lock failed when the blade got stuck in a cut and I began pulling the blade out. Granted, it was a liner lock in that case, but it failed under “normal use” and only moderate negative pressure. Since then I’ve appreciated the idea of spine whack testing, lock strength tests, and other reverse pressure tests just a bit more.
@metal_complex
@metal_complex Жыл бұрын
YEP this is exactly why a light spine pressure test is valid. What I don't like is people swinging it like a baseball bat into a solid surface as a "test". Glad you said something 👍👍
@g.dilla.
@g.dilla. Жыл бұрын
@@metal_complex Well, hold on there… what if you’re stuck in a batting cage and the pitching machine gets taken over by rogue A.I. and starts pummeling you with baseballs? I bet then you’d wish you had a triad locking knife on you to start repelling the baseball attacks of Skynet.
@metal_complex
@metal_complex Жыл бұрын
@@g.dilla. LOL
@experienceprecision5406
@experienceprecision5406 Жыл бұрын
Definitely not odd use. Makes it damn near a slip joint but your not expecting it so makes it terribly dangerous 👍
@HighCRI
@HighCRI Жыл бұрын
Like a lot of things, spine whack tests get a bad rep because of the some of the people doing them. It’s the folks that are pulling the knife 1-3 feet and slamming it as hard as they can 20 times to prove some random point about the Triad lock that make it look silly.
@LarryDesMarteaux
@LarryDesMarteaux Жыл бұрын
Thank you Metal Complex for your honest review of the Vosteed Racoon. As you stated, there could be people watching who do not have the issue you so easily demonstrated. I bought my copy this last November and fortunately it doesn't break the lock when rapped on the spine. To be fair, I gave my copy a thorogh cleaning and re-oiling when i first got it so I really don't know how it would have done right out of the box. After watching your video, I gave the spine a few good whacks against the edge of my desk and it did not fail. In my copy, the plunge shoulder seats down about 1/3 the width of the blade. For now, this appears to be enough to keep the lock engaged even with light abuse on the spine. As you stated, it does appear that the angle of the plunge channel on the blade is just shallow enough against the plunge cyclider's taper that a shock against the spine, along with maybe a relatively weak plunge spring, could cause the plunge cylider to shift out of the blade channel just enough to fail. I hope Vosteed addresses this for future builds. A little lock-stick is preferable to lock failure. My copy has been a great EDC knife so far but I will definitely be more cautious of stressing the spine.
@nascarracer886
@nascarracer886 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest report! Need more of this on you tube.
@jsmis1
@jsmis1 Жыл бұрын
I do have to say that I have this knife and carry it all the time. After watching your video I tried this and had no failure even after whacking it pretty hard a few time. Love this knife. Bummer that the sample you have did it. Maybe with the next batch they will get it ironed out. Happy mine does not slip.
@ALtheSciencePal
@ALtheSciencePal Жыл бұрын
Lock failure on plunge locks can also be due to spring pressure. I had this exact same issue on my mini slim pickins. I took it apart and stretched the spring just a tiny bit. Problem solved.
@erict149
@erict149 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing this out. The only Vosteed I own is a Bellamy and I absolutely love it. I had every intention of getting one of these, but I think I'll wait and see if they fix this issue.
@Bloodgutsnbeer
@Bloodgutsnbeer Жыл бұрын
Tested my Raccoon after watching your video. It locks up solid. Thanks for the info.
@aedelus
@aedelus Жыл бұрын
Knowing about this, I still bought the WMK exclusive version. It is rock solid! I think this was an isolated issue, which they fixed, and if anything went overboard to rectify any future QC failures. Vosteed definitely listened, and I'm stoked to play with my Racoon.
@MrBowser2012
@MrBowser2012 Жыл бұрын
Great review MC. Thanks for the honesty
@Oxydado
@Oxydado Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this MC. I was really excited about this knife. The lack of button stick the aesthetic of the knife, but sure enough… I barely tapped the spine and immediate fail. I’m bummed, but thankful and it’s going back… thanks again for the enlightenment
@adbramsay
@adbramsay Жыл бұрын
Same with mine
@malcolmholt2010
@malcolmholt2010 Жыл бұрын
I am very happy to say mine locks up like ft knox. Mine is from the second batch not sure if that would have been the reason or not. When I saw this I thought oh no don't tell me that! I immediately pulled it out of pocket and began knocking on it. Whew.... nothing happened and I knocked pretty hard. Dented a piece of oak wood I was working on so I am confident it is fine. Still just leaves that little bit of doubt in my mind though. I absolutely love this knife though has been my top carry ever since I got it.
@KnivesFAST
@KnivesFAST Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very well thought out and explained. I had just gotten a Valkyrie in last night so I decided to lightly try this and it failed almost immediately. And it feels pretty much every time I hit it lightly like you were doing. Very interesting. Thanks for the vid
@shoua7
@shoua7 Жыл бұрын
I just tried this with my Valkyrie that I got yesterday, and there was no failure. I even started hitting it harder, and still no fail. Maybe I got lucky.
@KnivesFAST
@KnivesFAST Жыл бұрын
@@shoua7 good. It seems like it's @ smaller percentage. Thanks.
@P90Camper
@P90Camper Жыл бұрын
I got one today - and it fails with light force.
@KnivesFAST
@KnivesFAST Жыл бұрын
@@P90Camper sorry to hear that
@christianmcbride9905
@christianmcbride9905 Жыл бұрын
Wow that is too bad, I was looking forward to checking that knife out too. But better to hear/see it here and wait till they've addressed the lock issue then be disappointed or hurt. Thanks for the content man
@Don92595
@Don92595 Жыл бұрын
I saw that same Reddit post after feeling sad about missing out on the Racoon the first round and it made me feel better.
@grantrudolph1333
@grantrudolph1333 Жыл бұрын
I have just received my Raccoon and am happy to report that the pocket clip has been moved for a deeper carry and the lock is not disengaging.
@willb7713
@willb7713 Жыл бұрын
I hope they get that fixed. Good looking out MC.
@zerohero187
@zerohero187 Жыл бұрын
Now I am glad they were sold out 2 weeks ago when I went to buy one. Thanks
@Zaque-TV
@Zaque-TV Жыл бұрын
Must be Hella popular. Sold out everywhere so I hope they make more!
@PR0MARK1
@PR0MARK1 2 ай бұрын
Get the bar lock! just bought a green bar lock racoon with a black blade, and I Love it! I tried to make it fail like you did many times and it never did. Solid lock up. This isnt exactly a hard use folder, but i feel confident i could beat on it without it closing on my fingers and I have scars from other blades failing. This must be isolated to the button lock variant. Btw they now come with exta springs and they have moved the pocket clip back a bit to make it sit deeper.
@BigRedEDC
@BigRedEDC Жыл бұрын
Just tested mine and it held fine.
@jd4edc
@jd4edc Жыл бұрын
Just tested mine, I spine whacked it just as hard as you did yours, no issues here. Most plunge lock issues can be attributed to the spring.
@PrecYsely
@PrecYsely Жыл бұрын
Same , no issue with mine, definitely a spring issue if this is happening with others
@bserieshatch1
@bserieshatch1 Жыл бұрын
A folding blade is already a compromise. I think if you want a hard use knife you don't worry about spine wacking folders, you carry a fixed blade.
@yinzer9397
@yinzer9397 Жыл бұрын
Well Mine does this also. So at least 3 of us. I never tried to whack any of my knives backwards on the desk. Another small issue. I did notice there was a semi-sharp point where the sharpening choil meets inside the handle that you could catch your skin on, a little file action on that point fixed that.
@decal1751
@decal1751 Жыл бұрын
Too bad that's a really nice knife especially for the cost I'm glad you made this video I was planning on getting one now I'll wait and see if they fix the problem! Thanks 🙂👍🤷‍♂️
@the_bove
@the_bove Жыл бұрын
Picked up a raccoon a little while back and never noticed any issues with lockup, but sure enough, a light little tap on the spine will definitely disengage the lock on this thing. That is unfortunate. Coincidentally I have the same issue on my Kizer original, which disengages even easier than the Raccoon. I don't typically use my knives in a fashion where there's any pressure to the spine side of the blade, but that is definitely something I'll be more mindful of after seeing and testing this for myself.
@jaystavros7177
@jaystavros7177 Жыл бұрын
I think Kizer is the manufacturer for Vosteed. Makes sense they'd both have the same issue. Do you plan on selling the raccoon?
@ghettomonk79
@ghettomonk79 Жыл бұрын
Pretty cool knife from Vosteed but I encountered the same issue pretty much right out of the box. Mine also had several loose screws. I really though about returning it. Instead I Dremeled out the lock notch on the blade a bit and added some Locktite. No more crappy/loose button lockup. Most people should just return/exchange theirs if it comes with the same crappy button lock issues. Watch out for the Vosteed Valkyrie also. My Valkyrie came with similar issues.
@Robs_Nerdy_Knives
@Robs_Nerdy_Knives Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just did, too not realizing how that might swing back. Ouch!! 🤕
@charlescollier7217
@charlescollier7217 Жыл бұрын
Important information, this. Thank you.
@jonnebbeling8000
@jonnebbeling8000 Жыл бұрын
Tested mine and it is rock solid. I could get it to break with crazy over baseball type hitting it. 😮
@maxlvledc
@maxlvledc Жыл бұрын
10:39 Issue talk. I'll check mine when I get home.
@goodnessgraciousitellya5004
@goodnessgraciousitellya5004 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this info, you saved me $60. 99% of review of this knife are basically calling it perfect, but this is a major flaw!
@aballer18
@aballer18 Жыл бұрын
Here's a professional doing his homework. Well done, MC! I already own this... but appreciate your review.
@aballer18
@aballer18 Жыл бұрын
Got home to test. One light whack on the ...ironing board!... and a fail :(((
@drubytoonzoriginals
@drubytoonzoriginals Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! I use my knives harder than that ‘whack’ everyday... good to know because this one was on my radar! Bummer... ☹️
@LarryGanz
@LarryGanz Жыл бұрын
Last week I had a knife lock fail during a gentle to medium whack on the spine of the blade, and the blade bounced up into my hand and cut me. I got PTSD shivers watching you beat the Demko on that wood block!
@not-a-raccoon
@not-a-raccoon Жыл бұрын
I need one of these. For obvious reasons
@KuukkeliBushcraft
@KuukkeliBushcraft Жыл бұрын
Vosteed sent me one to do a review. It will be arriving soon. Will see how the lock holds on mine.
@Salamando3D
@Salamando3D Жыл бұрын
Knowing two of these knives can be disengaged in that way is a much higher expected failure rate than one would be comfortable with. I got a Pyrite over this, and I'm even more glad now. Would still like to have a Racoon eventually but not until this is addressed, and publicly, hopefully. Sure 'knife guys' can take it apart and probably rectify this, but they should be as reliable as possible out of the box for the every man.
@jessiethedude
@jessiethedude Жыл бұрын
Did you whack the Pyrite on the spine to check though?
@galfridusarturus6403
@galfridusarturus6403 Жыл бұрын
Ah crap! Mine too. Just checked. I didn't have to give it too hard of a tap and the lock gave way. I think I'm going to send it back and see what they propose. I'll update later.
@Pete_Fish
@Pete_Fish Жыл бұрын
Thanks MC 😎
@MrGreenLeaf420
@MrGreenLeaf420 10 ай бұрын
I just bought one on amazon to test this when new and after I use it a few months.
@experienceprecision5406
@experienceprecision5406 Жыл бұрын
Trvista Aries seems like a budget knife you may like to see 👍
@JohnMeche
@JohnMeche Жыл бұрын
You need to get your hands on the Vosteed Thunderbird.
@randomzakk5269
@randomzakk5269 Жыл бұрын
Just tried my raccoon, and sure enough, it failed when I hit the spine a couple of times. Tried my sencut crowley, and that was rock solid.
@akquicksilver
@akquicksilver Жыл бұрын
Just stopped this video and pulled my Raccoon out of the stash and tried several times with significantly heavier strikes and it held firm. So their does seem to be some inconsistency with the manufacture/assembly for this model. I love mine and carry it quite a bit. Very fidgety and sharp.
@NERDkingROYALE
@NERDkingROYALE Жыл бұрын
Just tested mine and couldn’t replicate the disengagement you saw, even with significantly more force. Still, should probably be addressed if it’s a frequent problem. I have had some issues with my pivot loosening with frequent use, which I imagine could result in a weaker lockup, but that’s easily fixed with some loctite.
@underdog427
@underdog427 Жыл бұрын
Damn, I saw the original video and I'm carrying my Valkyrie today and decided to give it a try.... Sure enough it does it as well. I'm gunna try messing with my spring to see if it helps at all.
@holdernewtshesrearin5471
@holdernewtshesrearin5471 Жыл бұрын
Yikes! Going to check mine RIGHT NOW!............ No worries. Mine is solid. I can force a tiny bit of play with my hand by using fairly heavy pressure. Enough to where I'd expect to have some play. But the lock re-seats itself and is rock solid again. I spine whacked it just shy of enough force to where I feel permanent damage would occur and the lock held tight. So, seems I have a good one. I'm glad because I LOVE this knife! But while we're on the subject, I've never understood why button locks have such a thin support shaft , the part that the button itself is attached to. On my raccoon for instance, there is plenty enough clearance between the shaft and the blade tang while unlocked to increase its diameter by 40% and still clear the blade tang. It may not be necessary, the lock may be plenty strong to meet design strength parameters but the PERCEIVED strength, how the lock looks to the buyer who may or may not understand such things, is important too. I can look at the lock and know it has ample strength for a folder but I also see there's no reason not to make it beefier. Others may look at it and see a deficiency. My thing is if it CAN be stronger, make it stronger. I've also wondered why manufacturers don't make the cylindrical locking component, the larger diameter that actually contacts the tapered lock cutout in the blade tang, conical so as to increase engagement surface area and decrease the tendency to cam out of engagement with negative force applied. And id make engagement depth a bit deeper as well even though that would increase button travel to unlock. It seems like while that would require more precision, manufacturers are more than capable of that these days. Maybe there's a good reason not to do that but I can't fathom it. I'm just happy my raccoon seems to lock solid. I hope Vosteed will correct the issue for those that have it.
@Swedenedc
@Swedenedc 11 ай бұрын
I always do the spine test because of one kershaw injury 😅. I did a video on the knife and it works fine . Even hit hard on the wood . I really hope that it's not that many that fail .
@Huey4214
@Huey4214 10 ай бұрын
After watching this video I tested all five of the button locks I own. A Civivi Altus, Kaiser Sway back, Sencut Watuga and a Boker Bluejay and a Pyrite.All passed . A racoon in on my list to buy but I am gonna get the axis lock model.
@obviousgreyman
@obviousgreyman Жыл бұрын
Damn I was just getting ready to buy one of these. I really hope they fix this cause this knife looks freaking awesome.
@cameronchicken8439
@cameronchicken8439 Жыл бұрын
few years ago i bought a tangram santa fe button lock under $30 knife and i added a wave mod and it didn’t work at all because it would open too hard and bounce out of the locked position but it was actually much worse when i wave modded any frame lock knife i tried it on. at the time i started spine whacking and the santa fe failed but so did a few of my frame lock knives so at the time i put button locks and frame locks on the back burner. i just got a civivi button lock and i wave modded it and spine whacked it and it works totally fine without issue.
@rjoshm20
@rjoshm20 Жыл бұрын
So I tested this on the two raccoon’s that I own to add to the evidence. One was rock solid, the other disengaged with minimal pressure. The one that failed is new and un carried. Also to note the more used one has noticeably deeper lock engagement. Perhaps some usage/breakin is required for the lock to set and stabilize?
@17_plus_WON
@17_plus_WON Жыл бұрын
I agree, I bet the issue will resolve itself after breaking in a little. My son has this exact model in this video and despite trying very hard, I could not get it to fail. He's carried it and used it well. The knife came straight as an arrow and no issues whatsoever.
@jsaun6684
@jsaun6684 Жыл бұрын
Picked up my raccoon the day it was released. I tried to get the blade to disengage and found it to be completely solid. Even twisted on the blade and still no issue. Perhaps they just need to be broken in for the lock to hold strong
@RinEagle
@RinEagle Жыл бұрын
I just tested my Raccoon like this and it didn’t fail. I guess I got a good one?
@littlerougue
@littlerougue Жыл бұрын
been looking to get one of these I might just go Pyrite and see if they get them tuned up a little better in a few months
@michaelupchurch4783
@michaelupchurch4783 Жыл бұрын
Had a liner lock or two that barely engage do same , one may try to file to get more engagement since I like it . Tiad lock for life lol
@bassassassinnn7459
@bassassassinnn7459 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wish these companies would make some of their low end models with titanium scales. This thing would look SICK with a frag pattern. I love micarta though...
@trocha419
@trocha419 Жыл бұрын
After my time with my Dozier I don’t mind blades sticking out. Just depends in the pants.
@E1sun
@E1sun Жыл бұрын
I loved carrying a EDC ever since I got my first foldable when I was a kid in the 80s . However I've stopped carrying them after having a back lock and liner lock fail on me. Lost most feeling in a finger. Been so difficult to trust a foldable since , but miss them .
@ersgtr3421
@ersgtr3421 Жыл бұрын
Ouch! That scares me. Is it recoverable by time or nerves are damaged?
@efm2169
@efm2169 10 ай бұрын
I tested mine out after I saw this video and luckily mine doesn’t do that and I used some force even.
@Seraph777Iscah
@Seraph777Iscah Жыл бұрын
Can you do a Pyrite and Raccoon comparison? I know theses are generic knife designs but these two actually do seem very similar
@13beggar
@13beggar Жыл бұрын
I have seen this concern raised in couple posts other than yours. So, it does seem to be a thing. For what it's worth, I have a Racoon and though it never occurred to me to wack it on the back of the blade, I have tried it on my Racoon and it doesn't disengage. It feels very solid. Seems like more than a fluke, but not universal... not sure how helpful that is...
@anthonymarzi5943
@anthonymarzi5943 Жыл бұрын
Mine holds up to the spin test don't affect it buttom locks are great
@mikesummers8141
@mikesummers8141 Жыл бұрын
Their new Valkyrie is doing the same exact thing. Just received my Valkyrie yesterday and it did it to me as soon as I opened it. And I totally disagree with statements suggesting to super glue it. Should never have to do that.
@mikaelforsehag1851
@mikaelforsehag1851 Жыл бұрын
I got the Vosteed Thunderbird and it got the same "flaw". Still like the knife and in normal use it will not matter . That said i would prefer a more stable lock.
@scottmeacham1738
@scottmeacham1738 Жыл бұрын
MC...open it. There could be lint or something with the micarta. Maybe it needs liners. What I'm seeing there wouldn't deterr me from buying that knife. I will Never be repeating that act with Any of my knives. Thanks for sharing this video with us!
@mikereese15
@mikereese15 Жыл бұрын
Mine is all good. No issues with that happening. So hopefully it is just a handful of people
@BladeLabMiami
@BladeLabMiami Жыл бұрын
Just checked mine and the lock does fail after a medium-strength spine whack. Not great, but it's not an issue for me because I don't cut stuff with the spine of my knife and I would never use a cheap folder for hard use tasks. Still, they should fix it.
@danielcox5849
@danielcox5849 Жыл бұрын
Mine does the same but I’m not that concerned about it. It took a pretty hard whack. It’s rock solid with medium to hard pressure on the blade. Not ideal but it is not an issue when the knife is used correctly.
@8lias
@8lias Жыл бұрын
Tested mine as soon as I finished watching this video. Happy to say mine does not disengaged as seen on the video. Still a solid performing tool but I'll keep it it the back of my head should there ever be a time when I need to whack the knife.
@OK-pc1nt
@OK-pc1nt Жыл бұрын
Vosteed has been killing it lately. Loved basically every knife they’ve released. The problem with the button spinning and coming loose can be annoying, but a little locktite or super glue and they’re ok👌
@Mid_Missouri_EDC
@Mid_Missouri_EDC Жыл бұрын
This is Vosteed response when asked about this…Most folding knives are not designed for spine whacking as the material on the button is softer than the blade, when you whacking it, the harder blade steel will impact the button and cause deformation on the button, this will lead to unlock. When the button steel is being made from hard steel such as 420J2, some materials on the button will break off instead. In terms of other brands, if you try more times, those buttons will either break or deform as well. With that being said, Corrine Hu will assist you regarding warranty claims.
@hawkshadowoseanacy5171
@hawkshadowoseanacy5171 Жыл бұрын
Um, sure, but, that little impact force on a padded surface... You may have a different idea of what a 'fale safe' design is. This isn't it, at least for me.
@Mid_Missouri_EDC
@Mid_Missouri_EDC Жыл бұрын
Yea can’t believe that’s the stance they took on this.
@johncj3
@johncj3 Жыл бұрын
The amount of knives you handle weekly, monthly or annually is hands down dependable with the information you release in any video! You’re absolutely not saying too much! Keep providing quality content like you do bro! That is definitely a manufacturing defect. They need to go back to the drawing board on the lock-up!
@scottyh.6992
@scottyh.6992 Жыл бұрын
I just checked this on my Raccoon, fortunately no problems, mine seems ok. I have a Valkyrie on its way, I hope it does not have the same issue.
@shoua7
@shoua7 Жыл бұрын
I just got a Valkyrie yesterday from White Mountain Knives, and mine doesn't fail. I even tried hitting it harder than Metal Complex and it stayed solid. Hope yours is fine too.
@Zero_8347
@Zero_8347 Жыл бұрын
The finger choil is shaped a little oddly, but it looks really good closed, which is important to some people I imagine.
@davidwamsley7864
@davidwamsley7864 Жыл бұрын
Hey MC I love your videos and have absolutely no problem with the length of them and I love hearing everything that you have to say and as for anyone who doesn't like it well it only takes one tiny little movement of the thumb to hit the back arrow and leave so they can either leave or shut their freakin pie whole.
@Kens_knives
@Kens_knives Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time to discover this flaw before someone could possibly injure themselves your the best MC !
@jspiels9
@jspiels9 Жыл бұрын
After watching this video, i tested this on my currently carried Kizer Cormorant (Knife Center exclusive 4V edition) and had the same results, with lock disengaging upon light strikes on a notebook pad... Any other button lock failures we need to test?
@Mr_Obvious
@Mr_Obvious Жыл бұрын
Mine works fine. Rock solid lock up. Damn shame about that one failing. I hoe it's not a wide spread problem.
@whalehands4779
@whalehands4779 Жыл бұрын
You need to try a Thunderbird! Which I have, and would love to share.
@jeffreydawson4520
@jeffreydawson4520 Жыл бұрын
It seems like Vosteed may have some QC issues. Scrolling through the comments there’s a lot of comments saying their knife was fine and a lot that experienced the same lock failure. My Raccoon appears to be one of the good ones luckily but, based solely on the anecdotal evidence, I’d say Vosteed needs to improve their QC.
@vinniescala4870
@vinniescala4870 Жыл бұрын
Just fyi MC, they are out of stock until feb or march. Hopefully they fix these issues by then. I missed out on the first run, but it is the type of knife i usually like to edc, so maybe they’ll fix it and i can grab one.
@jakehoover4751
@jakehoover4751 Жыл бұрын
I have one of these. I just tested it with mine, and on the 4th slight tap mine popped loose as well.
@neurodon178
@neurodon178 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think spine whacking is the right way to use folders, it’s the firearm in the mud test for knives. With that being said, Vosteed has exceptional customer service, they should be able to help you out.
@metal_complex
@metal_complex Жыл бұрын
I also don't like the spine whack test... But minimal pressure on the spine causing the lock to disengage isn't good. This could occur while cutting into dense/thick material and trying to remove the blade with force if it gets stuck.
@neurodon178
@neurodon178 Жыл бұрын
I just tested my raccoons, both passed similar test, it seems you got a defected one, Vosteed should be able to refund you. Like I said, their customer service is quite good, no big deal. Have a wonderful day and keep up the good work 👍🏻
@xwestonx
@xwestonx Жыл бұрын
@@neurodon178 I did a similar test (multiple times now, both on cushioned couch arm and a cardboard box). Knives tested were a Vosteed Thunderbird, sencut watauga, protech Malibu, and a protech Mordax. The Vosteed was the only one that failed on some pretty mild taps.
@redrebelleader-7495
@redrebelleader-7495 Жыл бұрын
It might be an issue with the lock design? I have a Valkyrie that has no issue with lockup…it’s a bummer a good looking knife has such a major issue.
@lukepaulson3428
@lukepaulson3428 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had the same issue on the kizer feist and the artisan cutlery Ahab. Other than sending knives back is there a fix that can be done?
@dubbayabird6680
@dubbayabird6680 Жыл бұрын
Man I want to make a knife so bad. I wish I had the means, soo many ideas.
@adbramsay
@adbramsay Жыл бұрын
I tested mine after I saw this video and mine failed with very little effort. I will keep it but essentially keep it for very little use and treat it as a slip joint. Its a real shame cause its a great knife. Unfortunately makes me question the qc of Vosteeds products cause I was going to purchase the valkyrie harpoon after your review
@alb1816
@alb1816 Жыл бұрын
I beat mine pretty hard and no lock slip at all. If I hit it any harder it would be beyond abuse. I love this knife and mine works absolutely great.
@pacoman5816
@pacoman5816 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to be able to test the newly released batch??
@Ratchman_5000
@Ratchman_5000 Жыл бұрын
WMK exclusive out now! Go get it.
@mikereese15
@mikereese15 Жыл бұрын
Well now. I'm going to have to check mine when i get home. Disappointing if they are all like this. Need to check my thunderbird too.
@giantfatberg
@giantfatberg Жыл бұрын
Add mine to the bar graph under fail. Pie chart if you prefer. Box and whisker is taking it too far though
@Kens_knives
@Kens_knives Жыл бұрын
Hey MC just thought I'd let you know Demko 20.5 available in s35vn at DLT & Knife Center for the small sum of $250.00 dollars better go get you one! Lol !
@jeffschoper4486
@jeffschoper4486 Жыл бұрын
Dammit!! I had been smugly thinking I knew better when people did not choose this as budget knife of the year. Just tested mine and it has the issue. I’ll be in the corner sucking my thumb for awhile… so close to gold, please fix this Vosteed and we can put this behind us…
@LiquidRetro
@LiquidRetro Жыл бұрын
Not knowing the knife is out of stock everywhere and that color combinations exist, as well as the spine issue has been documented for a while feels lime this was a very much off the cuff review without much prep
@oliverwoehrmann5992
@oliverwoehrmann5992 Жыл бұрын
Don't have a Vosteed Raccoon, but I had a Kizer Towser button lock sitting next to me while watching the video. Tried the spine whack and it did dislodge the lock, not sure if I used more or less pressure then you did in the video. Is this a button lock thing?
@spyderg6509
@spyderg6509 Жыл бұрын
My WMK mini towser k button lock exclusive would fail easy just like this they sent me new springs and plunge lock I guess it happened to a lot of these exclusives. However my racoon is solid as hell
@clarencedavis3621
@clarencedavis3621 Жыл бұрын
The 2 different Kizer mini Pelican that i bought and returned done this and it takes very little to get kick to fail. I really liked the blade shape and the micarta had a real nice feel to it.. to bad the lock was junk. Any info on this? Have you noticed this also
@schwiftycakes8359
@schwiftycakes8359 Жыл бұрын
Watching this, decided to see how my Thunderbird handled a knock. Sad to report that it unlocked by basically letting gravity drop the blade down, not even tapping it. Lock up seems tight side to side and up and down, shame, i love that knife but its unsafe.
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