Metallica - Enter Sandman - James Hetfield - Isolated Vocals - Analysis and Tutorial

[@brandonkahuna1251]

James is awesome. Jason Newsted's back up vocals get overlooked by most. He really added to them, in live concerts especially.

[@coversbyajrosales]

True! It felt weird without Jason's heavy voice doing his crazy thing in their concerts

[@jaybramer3743]

James has the meanest vocs ever. He is the greatest rhythm guitarist off all time (metal) and he voice is epic.

[@kentamplin]

Rock on!

[@joshmastiff1128]

I would disagree, Lemmy's cover and voice in general is heavier and gnarlier!

[@jaylong4705]

Greatest rhythm guitarist of all time and it isn't even close. James is legend.

[@jaylong4705]

@@joshmastiff1128 lemme plays bass

[@apositron84]

Hmm.... If Hetfield and Mustaine had a baby that WOULD be the best vocals and rhythm. I've always found Hetfield the hardest to sing right and Mustaine the hardest guitar. I mean.... Holy wars. Try playing and singing THAT.

[@damonreynolds6775]

Massive respect for James, especially as a writer. Not my style of voice, but it works undeniably well with Metallica's sound and effectively communicates said brilliant lyrics. They're huge for a reason, and he's pretty much the heart of it.

[@SteveKaynan]

Great video on James Hetfield's vocals. He started doing vocal exercises during this time, during the making of this album our right after.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the info!

[@DaveGreenewood]

Still waiting for that Axl Rose isolated track 😉

[@kentamplin]

Rock on!

[@Go_Won_Hee]

Oh Yeaa 🤘

[@Blackeningband]

James's Black Album vocals are so god damn powerfull. Love them! 🔥

[@ssteacup]

@Nick te Lindert im sure its Load. That's why he sounds so different from Load onward.

[@ssteacup]

@Nick te Lindert sorry you're right.

[@ssteacup]

@Nick te Lindert actually I think we're both right LOL. He blew his voice up recording SO WHAT? Which would suggest the Black album was mostly finished. Either way his voice changes dramatically from Black to Load.

[@ssteacup]

@Nick te Lindert sorry to keep replying lol. But he blew his voice recording SO WHAT? for the b-side of the sad but true release. That was in 1993. Bob Rock is probably the reason why he sounds a little different in the Black Album, but its still the same James from And justice. Load is when we got this James we have today, one who took singing lessons. He sounds shit now imo.

[@kentamplin]

@Nick te Lindert I have taught many cantors, as well. Proper vocal technique is a must for anyone who has to depend on their voice.

[@drjag1155]

James is an amazing musician, a great guitarist and also a good singer ! Despite his alcohol problems he still has a powerful voice! And it's been almost 40 years that it lasts

[@kentamplin]

Indeed!

[@mikea3925]

James Hatfield has one of the most awesome rock/hard rock/ metal voices of all time!

[@magg93]

James is actually one of the all time front men in music!

[@kentamplin]

😀👍

[@NajRellim]

This is one of your best analyses. So many young people are of the belief that "Metal singers like Hetfield NEVER use effects or double tracking". You clearly illustrated all the "grease" (you call it "cheese") that is used on his vocal. BTW: When you "cheesed it up", you added a harmonizer to put a maybe a second above him and 12th below him.

[@animoley8012]

I didn’t rate his early vocals much on the first three albums but as he matured ie late 20’s early 30’s his voice became gold

[@tolismpanasis2775]

I do not follow anyone else except you, to see vocal videos. For me you are enough, you are doing a REALLY GREAT JOB and you spend a lot of your time in a day to make a video I think. I respect it man. I love your style, how you explain everything. I wish you and your team to continue this, whatever your target is.

[@PhantomLord114]

I really appreciate you going line by line with this one, Ken! James guitar playing and the way he’s used his voice through his career has always been inspiring to me. Pulling off a song like this and not “overdoing it” is more challenging than it sounds! But you make it easy to understand and I’m looking forward to using these techniques in my own music and performances. Thanks again!

[@kentamplin]

My pleasure! Glad you enjoy the vids.

[@chadherrin5181]

James really does have a good voice. Every time I've seen them in concert, he was spot on.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on! 👍

[@RockerChick]

I love Metallica! Also love how when you started playing the track with the band, you couldn’t help yourself to start head banging.. a true MetalHead 🤟🏼🔥♥️

[@kentamplin]

So true!

[@gearjmr]

Nice breakdown! I like the way James enunciates blasting every word clearly. That gives it authority. Your cheese sounded like an octave effect with delay.

[@kentamplin]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@highmtnx]

My guess on your secret "cheese" at the end is you are panning the slightly-delayed doubles hard left and hard right, leaving the center information in the center. One double is pitch shifted down a few cents. Another panned double is shifted down a full octave. All versions are on short, tight room reverbs. Right? ;)

[@kentamplin]

Nice try, Bob, but you completely missed the fact that each instance was separated from the others by just a few milliseconds from one another, to avoid phasing issues.

[@SOLStudiosTuc]

Thank you so much for making these videos it's epic that you respond to so many people with genuine thoughtful and educational responses while still making us laugh. Keep up the great work and thanks for the knowledge

[@andrejmasarovic233]

Love these Analysis videos! 👌🏼 Keep em coming Ken! One of the best channels around

[@kentamplin]

Glad you like them!

[@joegrit9332]

Born again here too Ken, God bless.

[@kentamplin]

God bless you, Joe.

[@allencolvin4320]

I would love to hear some takes on christian metal vocalists other than Michele Sweet. Maybe one on Petra

[@tuinglessinmiedo4732]

Amazing Ken! Please, "LIKE" if you want "isolated vocals of Kiske (Halloween and now Place Vendome)"

[@kentamplin]

Rock on!

[@RicardoMarlowFlamenco]

Unisonic is a great mix as well

[@SpencerPhreak]

So why bits of rhythm guitars in the vocal track? Here's why: This (like many) isolated track actually comes from either Rock Band or Guitar Hero. In the game, there are isolated instrument parts, including vocals, drum, bass, and guitar. Just 1 guitar though. So when someone is using the guitar controller during the lead guitar parts, the rhythm part is temporary combined with the vocal. Once the lead part is done, the player goes back to controlling the rhythm part, and the rhythm audio is once again separated from the vocal.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on! 👍

[@timothyholmes4588]

james is a powerhouse i love the isolated track that harmony sounds creepy ,awesome. and the power on exit light enter night is so cool

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on!

[@JWF99]

I cut my teeth as a teen on Metallica, Love it Ken that you chose "Enter Sandman" it was my favorite song for many years, one of the 1st full songs i learned on the guitar, which isn't a difficult one, but i would never sing until recently, so thanks to you man ! I'm a proud B A Christian these days myself who's really enjoying the hell out of learning from you. lol, Rock On \m/

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on! 👍

[@mwright137]

The guitars you find embedded in these isolated vocals are there to punch/fatten the guitars up at certain spots. It makes it easy to not drown out the vocals if they’re on the same track.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for weighing in, Matt!

[@jeffofthehillpeople7728]

Terrific vid Ken! I actually enjoy reading comments that are positive and polite

[@kentamplin]

So do I!

[@joshuaallenzurbano3476]

Great series sir Ken! One of my favorite singers. Don't know what cheese you added. Haven't tried doing vocal production. Like the vocal fx you did on this one. It's right in the face. Also like the bits of tutorial on the vocal style. Thanks sir Ken.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks so much!

[@maongkala7598]

Yeah Metallica!Good, very well explained. The power in this song is just awesome

[@kentamplin]

Awesome!

[@Timothy45]

Very very cool Ken, this was great. This is the song that made me a Metallica fan. Off topic for a second, i just have to say your shirts are absolutely bad ass!

[@kentamplin]

Thanks, Tim!

[@luisgrunewald6517]

It would be interesting to see a video like this about Hetfield‘s performance of "The Unforgiven III“ from S&M2 where he’s just accompanied by the San Francisco Symphony. That song shows more of his vocal abilities. Appreciate your work.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for listening!

[@vintage.warhorse]

It's really good that you're trying to reply to every comments as possible.. #respect

[@kentamplin]

I try! Rock on!

[@oussamaassaber3445]

Finally you did it Ken. I really enjoyed watching this video. I both laughed and learned. Thank you so much.

[@kentamplin]

You are very welcome!

[@kennyschabow]

I'm hearing some delay and doubling, I think an octave down. Anyway, this video series is my favorite of yours so far, Ken. I'm really digging how you are giving us insight in to how the vocals on these classic albums were made. I produce my own rock music and this is so helpful!

[@kentamplin]

I'm glad you like it, kenny! It seems that you are learning, as well, because your answer is very close!

[@realbeauty938]

Yessss! Fab ,fab ,fab analysis,the demos,explanations ,etc ,top notch! 👍👏

[@kentamplin]

Glad you liked it!

[@w3lcom39]

blew my mind when you started singing. You sounds so much like james himself 0o0

[@kentamplin]

Rock on! 😀

[@sashthrash]

The effect you added to James' vocals sounds like an Octaver probably an octave lower

[@Scaion]

James vocals for The Memory Remains is insane also. There's a high pitched vocal harmony in the song. An effect? Maybe. Or just something James was able to do back then. Perhaps to follow the high pitched guitar concept that happens during Marianne Faithfull's part.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for listening. Rock on!

[@nikolairau6072]

Yes, finally Metallica! 💪 One of the best ones! 💪 🔥

[@kentamplin]

🤘🤘🤘

[@CSTBFO_jad]

If I recall correctly, in the 'Making of' documentary for this album, Hetfield wore his voice out sometime during the recording of the album.

[@kentamplin]

I believe it!

[@anthonywitman9934]

I think it was the subsequent 2 - 2 1/2 year tour when he blew out his voice.

[@vannacee26]

He blew it out covering the song "So What"

[@marshallross3373]

Another great video. These isolated videos are an excellent way to learn, and appreciate the performances.

[@kentamplin]

Glad you like them!

[@mattnelson8325]

Thanks Ken. That was fun!

[@kentamplin]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@JudieBoBoodie]

I've been struggling for so long since I started your course last Feb 2020 with the concept of "compression" but I'm finally starting to understand it and use it. I really appreciate your tutorials but I'm definitely not ready for distortion yet. I'm loving compression though...

[@kentamplin]

Take your time, Judie! It will come along, and your voice will grow like crazy!

[@danielriley2354]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you've added either a double track, increased the reverb to a larger value or maybe both? Whatever it was it definitely helped with the ethereal effect originally displayed by the Pre-chorus! Thanks for all the content Ken, you've made the lockdowns much easier with your insightful and entertaining videos! Take care.

[@kentamplin]

You're welcome, Daniel, and thank you!

[@THEDIABLODOG]

Come on KEN! you're getting close to a million! I'm rooting for you! 👹TheDiabloDog👹

[@kentamplin]

Exciting!

[@panteranegra1552]

One of the best songs ever

[@kentamplin]

Very cool song!

[@Strefa_Aniola_POLAND]

:) Thank You, Maestro Tamplin :) great tutorial :)

[@kentamplin]

You're very welcome!

[@jasontc1974]

For the "added cheese", as you called it, it sounded like you dropped the pitch and delayed the playback a few milliseconds.

[@kentamplin]

You peeked.

[@jasontc1974]

Just came across your videos last week. Great stuff! I play trumpet, so a lot of the technical things you mention also apply to playing trumpet. Then, earlier today, I saw your video from Dec 30, 2020, on David Coverdale’s (Whitesnake) Here I Go Again, and you actually mentioned that regarding the use of the diaphragm to hit certain notes (reference to a Ronnie Dio interview). tprs.com/interviews/ronnie-james-dio-unlocking-his-secrets/

[@NickCutroneo]

@@kentamplin I was coming into the comments to say this very thing! I wouldn't call it a cheese factor though, it's a "thickener". I like the change personally, and goes along with what Metallica was trying to do with their guitar sound on this album especially. Very tastefully done and enhances the track.

[@Livinnliftin]

It sounded like you added a dropped octave, increased treble and added chorus or slight flange effect. I could be totally wrong, but decided to share what I heard. I've been a long time fan of Metallica (35+years) and new fan of yours. I love your channel! Thanks for the great content!

[@stacygodfrey4939]

One of my favorite bands! I saw them a couple of years ago in Birmingham, Alabama. Amazing concert! \m/

[@kentamplin]

Awesome!

[@MagicThys]

Brilliant live band...thankyou for doing this tute

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on! 👍

[@TheNBSPerry]

Great video again Ken... a review of Adam Gontier would be amazing !!!! His studio recordings are clearly edited and produced but his live sound is basically the same. Especially in his earlier years. Thanks again Ken!

[@kentamplin]

You're welcome!

[@jeffschielka7845]

Hey Ken! James jams. Cool frontman that not only sings but plays a mean guitar. Most singers don't have the energy to do both. Simply put, Metallica ROCKS!!!🎤🎸🎤🎸

[@kentamplin]

Rock on!

[@jeffschielka7845]

@@kentamplin You also!😎

[@GuitarGangsterArmi]

This really shows Jim’s greatness

[@kentamplin]

👍

[@yarajamal1782]

Another awesome video. I saw in Wikipedia that you are a Christian! How cool! I am a Christian too. Metallica is my young brother’s favorite band. A lot of people from church criticized us because Metallica and all sort of rock bands. In Brazil, the Protestant churches don’t “allow” people to listen to secular songs. I am glad that in the church that I am going in Ohio is not a problem.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for listening!

[@yarajamal1782]

@@kentamplin Sure!

[@rebelrocker7494]

Great Video,Love When You Explain These,Love That Song ,Sharing Out,You Were Amazing ,Keep Rockin 🤘🖤✌👍

[@kentamplin]

Thanks, Rebel!

[@BULLYgaming8012]

It sounds to me like you either added a underneath backing track or you pitched the vocal down and added it underneath. And maybe a little reverb or echo

[@kentamplin]

Quite close. There are short room reverbs that feed their outputs (not the source signal) to a slightly longer hall, as well. But yes to the pitched-down voice. You've been paying attention!

[@dolphincliffs8864]

I wish I would have found you much earlier,had to learn this on my own! Feels great knowing I got quite a bit right!

[@kentamplin]

Glad I could help!

[@gerardgutierrez7393]

Hi Ken, I love your series of these videos. Please keep us inspired. Yeaaaahhh🤘

[@kentamplin]

Awesome!

[@gerardgutierrez7393]

@@kentamplin you are awesome Coach

[@JeffPulinski]

Love the series!

[@kentamplin]

Really happy to hear that, Jeff!

[@ICyrusQI]

Loved the analysis!

[@kentamplin]

Thank you!

[@gentilmuribeca8104]

Hey Ken, do a cover of Bon Jovi's Luv Can! It was a good vocal surprise we got from Jon on the latest "2020" record!

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the suggestion, Gentil!

[@chadadams693]

You know there was a time where I could play guitar and sing at the same time like James Hetfield from watching you’re videos bro kind forgot how Hahahahah good thing this video is here 🤘🏻🤘🏻😎😎

[@stephenallan1210]

Brilliant and spot on review as always! I recommend reacting to some Eurovision as something new, and analysing the singer's vocals from their

[@kentamplin]

Thanks, Stephen!

[@crushtoph]

Thanks Ken...i just recently asked you for that! i think you doubled the voice, put in some delay and reverb. Where do you get all your crazy t-shirts from?

[@kentamplin]

Father's Day gifts from the kids. Delayz, Reverbz, Pitch Shifts, and Panning, not necessarily in that order.

[@danielfragrances5732]

@@kentamplin no offense but his vocals sound better without the cheese. Cheers

[@CAST13L]

Cool video, and how educated the teacher is.. Category: Educating. 7:41-8:12 Category: Entertaining! :D 6:38 can't stop thinking of Ozzy at this part. My guess on what you did at the end - added a vocal track sung by you. :)

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the feedback, Nikita!

[@raiderrich8355]

I really enjoyed this video it's very interesting.

[@kentamplin]

I'm glad!

[@tammyevans7333]

What a screamer!

[@kentamplin]

Haha!

[@cadeevans4623]

He definitely was a screamer and a growler rarrrrrrrr

[@vannacee26]

@@cadeevans4623 Hetfield ROAR

[@seancollins9597]

Hey Ken, have you always been a fan of some heavy music, or was that something you kind of got into later in life?

[@kentamplin]

Metallica has been around since I was a teenager so it's been awhile! ;)

[@divanymph]

I think you added a harmony...sounds great

[@kentamplin]

Thanks!

[@talex001]

This one actually made me have a belly laugh as you talked about his little emphasis's like "uh" and stuff... for whatever reason my mind went strait to James Brown - Is James Hatfield the James Brown of metal? "HEY!"

[@kentamplin]

Papa Het's Got a Brand New Bag!

[@hermanhelmich]

You’re a very nice and funny man Ken... your eyes popping out singing are hilarious... And of course your skills are top notch as is your tutorial

[@kentamplin]

Thanks so much, Herman!

[@johnmcdonagh1607]

Brilliant, Ken, thanks 👍.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks, John.

[@apositron84]

Also... 7:56 is that a new language or Freak on a Leash by Korn meets Enter Sandman

[@xXGothicChickenXx]

That was awesome 🤘

[@kentamplin]

Thanks, xXLady!

[@hawaii2k]

I'd recommend watching their documentary "A year and a half", where they filmed the recording sessions, to see how much work they put in it.

[@kentamplin]

👍😀

[@chinfuzzchet3616]

great job as usual, Ken. I am curious as to why the bass is clean. Jason had a little distortion growl in his track that is missing in that mix.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks, Doug!

[@glennangay-angay2856]

I love Metallica. ❤️🤗 You add the creepy delayed voice to make some harmony on the song. 👂🎧❤️ Im waiting for the next video of this ❤️😄 Ken Tamplin your the best 🙂🙂 🇵🇭

[@kentamplin]

Thanks, Glenn!

[@MegaEdits]

same dude - metallica - blackened isolated vocals, holy crap! do that!

[@kentamplin]

👍

[@ryananthonymauro]

I love how softly he bobs his head while listening to a guy basically scream

[@kentamplin]

😁

[@sarojdulal6193]

Hey ken, I am a subscriber from two different accounts and a long time fan... I had a question. Sometimes when belting a high register with diaphragm support, its almost as if you're about to black out and you hear the last note that you hit ringing in your ears for a while... what does this mean?? Am i pushing my diaphragm too far too early??? Much more clearance on belting and puahing your chest voice would be really appreciated..

[@kentamplin]

The best place to ask singing related questions is on the forum. Please join the discussion, enrollment is free. forum.kentamplinvocalacademy.com/

[@vincebarber6933]

I Heard echo, and maybe doubled the vocal with a little delay? Excellent video once again Maestro. Have a great day Ken.

[@kentamplin]

You've got good ears! Rock on!

[@nino_kO1]

when you turned on this mic amp.... i was blown away... sir you have an amazing studio... good video, thank you very much... Ken is it possible that you also this on a Bed Of Roses or Always by Bon Jovi.... i really wanna learn to sing those songs

[@kentamplin]

😎

[@janlukadiebold5266]

Wow awesome video! Very well explained!!😀😀🤘🤘🤘

[@kentamplin]

Thank you so much 😀

[@djushuaia281]

effect effect effect ... old school classic LOL :) ...great content ;)

[@kentamplin]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@samposampo9432]

Great! Maybe this question is clear to anyone else but how do you get isolated vocals? As you mentioned in this video editing the music out is almost not possible. And for the "cheese" to me it is impossible to guess, but it sounded "less warm", something was doubled maybe?

[@kentamplin]

Good question!

[@jamesderekeikeland9048]

Great analyse as always, James has a better voice than many are awhere off, im not a hardcore Metallica fan but like some of their music and albums, Black Album is one of them and some of their earlier stuff. As you im also a Christian but i also enjoy heavy metal and bands my fellow belivers don't listen to because of their lyrics and album covers like Iron Maiden, i know their covers, eddie and musical themes is just for show and none of them are into the occult etc, i love their music and maybe i judge things wrong but don't feel that way

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on! 👍

[@vuha5000]

5:32 this statement here means to a lot to us! Im recommending you to every fella church singer whom I serve with to check ya out, cos u teach it at its best how it should be done :D

[@kentamplin]

Thank you, Vuha!

[@aoneko2001]

Hi. I presented this song to my family as a lullaby. I think the "cheese" is a lower vocal harmony sung by yourself.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for watching, aoneko2001!

[@Flvbybcn]

On 7:16 he said he dont know why guitars are present in this track. This track was made with vocalremover i guess. So it is a kind of reverse engineering algorythm, not the separate input on a mixer.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on! 👍

[@Nissardpertugiu]

The ride the lightning track would be interesting . He had a different voice back then

[@kentamplin]

Papa Het has had a long career. His voice has been run through the wringer a few times. He took a knockin' and kept on Rockin'!

[@zool84]

Hi Ken! Have you already covered Bono Vox in this series? Thanks! Cheers

[@kentamplin]

I haven't.

[@dolphincliffs8864]

Rock on!

[@kentamplin]

🤘🤘

[@solodisfrutaelviaje]

man that lower voice is so satisfactory, it almost hugs you hah

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on! 👍

[@BladesMusic]

Sounded like you added a lower octave and some outside stereo panned vocals. Might have been more effect or just the same effect added to the "more tracks/layers" that made it feel like more effect.

[@kentamplin]

That's pretty close!

[@stefancarstea1587]

Hetfield is great in the sense that he has a very STABLE sound on high notes ( with a complete control on the distorsion). Mustaine on the other hand has a very bad control on long notes ( his larynx is not in the right position). But both made great songs.

[@cadeevans4623]

I always liked metallica they had a killer band I mean awesome band they were very tight always on it especially with the symphony that was just awesome but James hetfield he always growled when he sung but it was awesome for that type of heavy metal band he was definitely awesome with his growls and screams I liked it Ken if I tried growling like he did i would probably hurt my throat but James has his way of getting out without damaging his voice so yea Ken metallica is definitely awesome great explaining and great demonstrating Ken singing like him love your growls as well Ken awesome video buddy👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@kentamplin]

Thanks, Cade. Have a great week.

[@cadeevans4623]

Your welcome Ken you have a great week as well

[@BuildEnvironmentTV]

James has blown his voice out a few times, though, so it certainly hasn't been without damage. He almost killed it on the Justice album, blew it out completely doing some covers (infamously while recording the So What? cover) before the Black Album and had to get a coach to recover it for recording. I think you can see the first appearance of the Hetfield warmup tape on A Year and A Half, but then he almost killed it again touring for like 3 years on the back of that album. I dunno that he ever had to have vocal surgery but he has to have come close a few times.

[@Meakin_Music]

Such an iconic track, thanks for the breakdown, your insight’s are invaluable to aspiring vocalists/producers 😊 Would love to see a video of an iconic GNR track. 🤘

[@kentamplin]

Great suggestion!

[@Meakin_Music]

@@kentamplin Also Blackie Lawless, Sebastian Bach, Klaus Meine, Geoff Tate or Eddie Vedder 😊

[@ChanceTheChancenator]

Fun fact: my first electric guitar looked exactly like the one on your shirt! \m/ (only, it wasn't a Fender but a London City) Nowadays I play Ibanez, Music Man and PRS, though. Anyway, I love this video. James is a great and one of my main influences as being a singer/guitarist.

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for the visit. Rock on! 👍

[@ChanceTheChancenator]

@@kentamplin Your channel always rocks. I've been a huge fan since I heard about it (a few years ago) and it keeps getting better. \m/

[@matthewschultz3323]

I'm gonna guess the "gang vocal" detune effect for sure, and some reverb. To me though, James seems to focus on good clean tone primarily, and the distortion just seems to be an afterthought

[@kentamplin]

Thanks for weighing in, Matthew!

[@rodney2134]

Is the harmony James or Jason? Live Jason added a lot to vocals like Mike did 'Diamond Dave' in VH. Both seem a bit lesser whenever they're without their respective band mates. Loved this video. Love Metallica's sound even if the lyrics do upset my fellow Christian mates too. Wanted to be the 'Australian James Hetfield' but didn't put the work in. Much respect for those like them & you (& VH) on that score.

[@danradles]

Did anyone work out what Ken added to the track - did sound thicker.