Metaphor: ReFantazio - TIPS FOR BUILDING OVERPOWERED ARCHETYPES (Guide)

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@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

Btw I know it’s called Ar- KA- type But I can’t help it 😭 ALSO PS WHEN U WATCH THE VID Also you start off with only ONE inheritance slot and to inherit a skill you need to unlock it that doesnt mean always mastering it (in my experience I usually maxed it so i put 2 and 2 together)

@Yung.Ert. Ай бұрын

I really appreciate this comment bc I came to the comments just to see if anyone said anything about it 😂

@fffan2214 Ай бұрын

Fr 😂

@Silverjerk Ай бұрын

All good man. It triggered my old guy, "well, actually" for a minute, and then I moved past it because the content was solid. Keep up the great work.

@frankievargas4834 Ай бұрын

@@Legendaryyy77 sorry bro it sounded meaner than I thought, and yea Im aware of the slots, btw just in case for farming stay with the first stage archetypes that you’ve mastered, they level up with less exp than their upgrade so you farm the heros exp item thats worth a 1000Aexp even faster then you can use those to level up all archetypes really easy

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

@@frankievargas4834 mhm the leaves carried me all game and nah your good bro!

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

I love how this guide isnt "this is the busted one" but instead teaches the how, the methods. its how i try to explain stuff to people alot when im asked for help cause when teaching the how people can actually use it better.

@katerbruecke4756 8 күн бұрын

Actually the first guide I found that truely explained the scaling of stats. Really encouraged me to experiment, I always thought the stats mattered so much, so I hesitated to put Archetypes on my characters that didn' suit them

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

i love how this game just encourages player expression. personal example. i love having access to good mp regen, cause good mp regen means i can do whatever i want in fights and not worry. well for that i just pick merchant, since it helps with farming money too, and put in the inheritence slots any mp regen passive i can get my hands on. this also flows really well with merchants rank 20 skill, debt collection. with it i can get as much mag as i want. but thats me, you can cook your own crazy shit. like a mage that ACTUALLY has every element, or the super specialised but deadly type that just grabs damage boosters etc. More himself said to experiment and come up with synergies and im all here for it.

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

1:42 correction. you do not need to have an archtype maxed to inherit a skill the origin archtype needs to just learn the skill for example. shield blessing on wizard is its, think it was rank 11, skill and once wizard has rank 11 you can inherit it.

@MULTIPLANGOD Ай бұрын

Correct

@jamesgraves4724 Ай бұрын

Yeah idk how he posted this video without knowing this idk how he got this far in the game and experimented with the system this much without knowing that you don’t need to max out the archetype just have the skill unlocked

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

@@jamesgraves4724 i think it was just a simple speaking mistake. but thats why i made the comment, to catch this mistake. in genera L7 knows what hes talking about. its also something that in lategame i assume you lose sight over when you just have the tools to max anything you want. tho roguery was the worst example to pick as its available on lerning faker at all, since its a rank 1.

@MULTIPLANGOD Ай бұрын

@@jamesgraves4724 hopefully he mid spoke or else he has no business posting videos

@madpink Ай бұрын

I was about to post this.

@Brother_James Ай бұрын

Shoutouts to you for making a video encouraging folks to make whatever they want and giving them some pointers on how best to go about doing that. To each their own but I find it weird that so many folks are just trying to hit a video to copy the most overpowered builds from someone else in a single player game like this where you have dozens of options and potential mix ups.

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

not just that. its also kinda sad. the game isnt even out for 2 weeks and everyone is just after "this is the broken shit" which also falls apart really easily when you consider a thing most "op build" guide makers dont. game progress im gonna take smt v for example. there are alot of op build videos, but they all only consider endgame, not someone thats like lvl 30 and being stuck. teaching the how is always more important then the what, cause the how is adaptable.

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

@Brother_James Ай бұрын

@@Flutterdark_ wholeheartedly agreed tbh! It's unfortunate but it's a sign where gaming is at these days. The Meta is valued above all else, even within pure PvE co-op games or single player games, all most people care for is searching up something for an op build.

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

@@Brother_James tbh i do it on occasion too, but thats usually only when im stuck on a superboss or some shit. like actual endgame stuff. this meta hunt also affects guide quality. alot of game journalists upload wrong guides, or just guides with alot of missing info. or guides that say nothing, not even on a system level, that anyone looking for a guide hasnt already figured out. i remember for ff7 rebirth i had to look for a guide for a minigame challenge, and found an ign guide that explained nothing despite claiming to be made for that challenge.

@kirillphomichov6101 Ай бұрын

You dont start with 2 inheritence skills. My poor brawler was running 1 skill only for a while because its followers ranks are so far away. And no you dont need to max class to pass its skills. Thats why I just got everyone to rank 3 in healer and never bother maxing it on everyone. Easy medi on everyone.

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

yeah some classes really get hurt by plot locks. while i think brawler suffers the most from this gunner and mage also have that problem.

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

@@kirillphomichov6101 correction: my fault on this part SOME classes are held back by unlocking skills Most of the time you need to max them out But sometimes you don’t And you start off with only 1 my bad you get 2,3,4 as your follower links go on

@TheAWDKilJoy Ай бұрын

I gave them knight for the first aid. Helped in the early game.

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

@@TheAWDKilJoy oh i didnt mean the class not working i meant more the lack of inheritence slots it makes a class more vulnerable to be completely blocked by resistences.

@ReelistStudios Ай бұрын

You do NOT need to have an Archetype maxed to learn skills you just need them to be at the level they would get skills naturally. For example you can get Heat Up at lvl 3 of warrior and can inherit it on any Archetype regardless of level after you learn it

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

yeah i pinned comment corrected dis most of my archetypes were maxed when i inherited so i just put 2 and 2 together

@Lilith_Xolaani Ай бұрын

Nice video :)

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

🙏thank you

@noctisheadshot9355 Ай бұрын

lineage skills doesnt stack 10% in each. It goes from 1.2x if 2 same / 1.5x if 3 same and 2x if full for all lineage skills. In this example for heat up you can get up to 20% if going a full mono team.

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

@@noctisheadshot9355 sense of kinship vs atlus shitty descriptions

@noctisheadshot9355 Ай бұрын

@@Legendaryyy77 Yeah its a lot of testing and a lot figuring out in terms in how it works. Also depends if someone makes a faq about numbers. Regardless its very commonly used in builds since more damage.

@frankievargas4834 Ай бұрын

Bro you don’t pronounce the ch in archetype it makes the kuh sound

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

pinned comment ^^

@Romani_Peace Ай бұрын

@@Legendaryyy77 no hate brother, love the vids, but they do say it multiple times in the game lol

@Palidor Ай бұрын

I'm boring so I keep my party members in the same role as they're introduced and only level some other classes for them. Heismay is my Thief/Gunner/Faker, Strohl is my Warrior/Commander, etc.

@heberloresco5111 Ай бұрын

Can you help me find the role of each character and their archetype pls. am having a hard time

@IceBloo Ай бұрын

You start with two inherit slots? More like one.

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

@@IceBloo it’s actually 1 your right but immediately getting the follower rank to 2 should give you the extra slot

@IceBloo Ай бұрын

@@Legendaryyy77 none of them do that except seeker.

@TrvisXXIII Ай бұрын

ARK-eh-type. Have you never used that word in regular conversation? It isn’t a made up thing, just like how a persona is a representation of someone’s character, an archetype is a role someone fits into for a given scenario. These aren’t just made up words Atlus decides to use for their games lol

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

I honestly just like the “ch” sound It sounds cooler

@marmalar 12 күн бұрын

Haha, this reminds me of pronouncing Quinoa as KWIN-OH-AH. When my girlfriend at the time broke up with me, she made sure to tell me "btw it's pronounced KIN-WAH". I couldn't be mad. She fucking got me with a mic-drop.

@kenshin391 Ай бұрын

Can you tell me how do you get more gold gear? Do you have to bless the purple gear?

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

@@kenshin391 purple gear is usually found in chests and gold can also be found in chests But it’s also certain enemies that can drop rare gold and purple You can steal from them by using thief

@kenshin391 Ай бұрын

@@Legendaryyy77 Thank you

@pawep2966 Ай бұрын

I have one question: do royal archetypes work for passives requiring same lineage?

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

@@pawep2966 royal does not no

@pawep2966 Ай бұрын

@@Legendaryyy77 so for prince together with other royal archetypes same passives doesnt work yes? What about royal warrior and 3 samurais?

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

@@pawep2966 yes royal warrior and samurai work because they are all warrior lineage

@pikachufrost5818 Ай бұрын

How were heismay’s stats so much higher than hulkenburg’s at the same level? You showed the stats at around 8 minutes. Do those include equipment and archetype stats?

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

i had some equipment on hiesmay with stat bonuses and I juiced him up on alot of incenses since he is like of one the best party members. hope that clears up any confusion

@pikachufrost5818 Ай бұрын

@@Legendaryyy77 that’s better. His stats were more than double hers😂

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

yeah lmaoo def invest on character you think you might use long term they can end up being cracked

@THATguy-dx6bg Ай бұрын

was it much easier playing on an harder difficult on ur second playthrough?

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

yes because you keep all your equipment

@vengeflyking2722 Ай бұрын

Do royal archetypes together share the same lineage? I saw a vid recommending to use these skills like Heat Up with a full party of those, but they are not actually called royal lineage or prince lineage. Instead they're just their base.

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

royals do NOT stack with others royals its only the same class prince works a lil different tho

@vengeflyking2722 Ай бұрын

@@Legendaryyy77 Thanks for the info!

@noctisheadshot9355 Ай бұрын

also to add apart from prince you can make a mono lineage team with a royal job to benefit. Royal Berserker with 3 more berserker and have the benefits

@AdacherTheCabbageEater 10 күн бұрын

Does Prince count as Seeker for lineage passive bonuses?

@noctisheadshot9355 10 күн бұрын

@@AdacherTheCabbageEater Theoretically can be with the seeker mono team for lineage since they share with the same weapon. Haven't tested but try with the merchant item buff lineage passive to see if it works since it's easy to tell.

@MULTIPLANGOD Ай бұрын

Question when you inherit a slash skill let’s say on mage what weapon is being used for the damage calculation since mages don’t use swords

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

It still would be the staff So I wouldn’t recommend since naturally the damage would be less UNLESS your staff is rly good

@noctisheadshot9355 Ай бұрын

the damage calculation will be based on the power of the weapon and the same for magic along with the stat attribute associated with it.

@PSNMirru Ай бұрын

What type?

@Legendaryyy77 Ай бұрын

Sorry what are you asking? 😅

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

if you are trying to ask what archetype is op, thats exactly the oposite of what this guide is for. this guide is trying to teach a method, a method with which you can make a build that fits your situation and preferences. you hear alot of people say "oh tycoon op" but for the timeframe between merchant being shit due to low damage and tycoon unlocking, what does one do. most guides have no answer for you but this one does, since it teaches the how, not the what.

@MarvellousMorbing Ай бұрын

Can you do as many NG+ playthroughs in this game as much as the Persona games?

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

i dont know any game with ng+ that restricts ng+ so yeah you can, tho i feel it will take at most1 ng+ to get most things since even while im in new game i dont feel like i ahve time issues.

@thaison100 Ай бұрын

Yes but the NG+ in Metaphor is bad, you begin the game again with your stat reset to beginning without any buff from incense or bath. Archetypes also reset and have to do follower or progress to unlock them again but if you level them to level 18 before in previous cycle then they still at 18 when unlocked. You still have your weapons, armors and items so the game is still a walk in the park but there’s no fun build to play until late game.

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

@@thaison100 i wouldnt know im still not in ng+ but incense bonuses going poof kinda sucks. actually really sucks. wait does that also mean that, for example, i cant use wizard in the first dungeon cause gallica doesnt rank up yet?

@thaison100 Ай бұрын

@@Flutterdark_Pretty much.

@Flutterdark_ Ай бұрын

@@thaison100 bruh what does this game have against me? all the mage jobs have late plot locks.