MetaTrader - End to All US Prop Trading?

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BKTraders - Kathy Lien & Boris Schlossberg

BKTraders - Kathy Lien & Boris Schlossberg

2 ай бұрын

Extinction level event coming for the US Prop trading industry? MetaQuotes the parent of MT4 and MT5 has been cracking down on brokers offering US traders prop trading through their platform. In this video talk about why MetaQuotes has been doing this, what this means for the US prop trading industry and the alternatives for forex prop.
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@Peter-dj2is
@Peter-dj2is 2 ай бұрын
People always evolve , something will fill the gap , sometimes change is necessary
@skybiz4520
@skybiz4520 2 ай бұрын
Right and if you are "Us Customer" you might as well get another "Citizenship" where people are not threaded like slaves and can use their own funds as they wish.. US Slave plantation eventually will lose all Forex "customers". Dodd Frank my Azz.
@demetriusm8221
@demetriusm8221 2 ай бұрын
They did this back in 2010 for retail forex traders in general trading with offshore accounts (avoiding FIFO and "hedging" trading styles). Best thing to do as a US based fx prop trader is to start trading futures. Boris is right about that.
@JuicedMoose
@JuicedMoose Ай бұрын
You can't trade futures with 1k. The data is expensive etc.
@Luuuuuuuuuuuuke
@Luuuuuuuuuuuuke 2 ай бұрын
Ask yourself why the government would want to prevent everyday people from being able to make another income stream from forex. God forbid the peasants try and make some money outside of corporate slavery ...
@Immanuel63
@Immanuel63 2 ай бұрын
Well said, thanks for the insight
@Jasperforex
@Jasperforex 2 ай бұрын
Well said Boris. Thanks for insights
@jasonmercado1810
@jasonmercado1810 2 ай бұрын
But gambling is legal in USA.. wtf..
@ARES.PRODICTION
@ARES.PRODICTION 2 ай бұрын
They don’t want us to trade
@Ericdjnice1
@Ericdjnice1 2 ай бұрын
They don't want people to get wealthy
@JL-fp1jd
@JL-fp1jd 2 ай бұрын
America works two ways. Financial enslavement via debt accept debt expand off government bank money aka your entire life is owned by the bank but you can try to expand if you fail you’re homeless and broke. Or you can be middle class which is basically non existent now but you can break even every week and lastly you have like the new middle class it’s an overleveraged person deep into a mortgage payment for 30 years forced to work forever and still basically breaking even but you’ll get 1 vacation a year. If you see it’s simply financial enslavement via debt and everyone else has to work or go homeless 😆 so essentially this is how the government keeps Americans complaint and working because most Americans are rather unhappy there is no American dream anymore it’s just break even lol the key is simply leaving America or buying citizenship or getting a digital nomad passport and trade anywhere. Financial freedom is outside of America
@razorraysolarsavings70
@razorraysolarsavings70 2 ай бұрын
Lol we will still trade.
@filips2504
@filips2504 2 ай бұрын
they don't let gamble on CFD, ok we will gamble on futures))))
@uriabinenshtok
@uriabinenshtok 2 ай бұрын
Real thanks for the easy explanation boris
@innate7260
@innate7260 2 ай бұрын
What prop firms offer still outweighs all this, so yes everyone will follow to ctrader, I'm not in the US but there's always a way
@williammclean8903
@williammclean8903 2 ай бұрын
I'm betting it's not the end. We will know pretty soon though.
@Oleksiy777
@Oleksiy777 2 ай бұрын
1. You can easily trade futures through MT5. 2. MT4/MT5 ecosystem has a completely different business model. Their forte is not the prop trading, but Copy Trading though software solutions (Expert Copiers available through MT5 market), as well as PAMM and RAMM accounts. This is how a trader can get an external funding, not though a prop allocation. And sometimes quite big funding, deposites can reach millions of dollars. And not prop notional with drawdown limit, but real money, often with no drawdown limit. So traders can leverege this even better (if they know what they are doing). 3. Also US business has never been the primary business for Metaquotes and forex brokers relying on MT4/MT5. Historically, they focused on the rest of the world. So I would not worry about them. They will just keep going fine. Plus US citizens have plenty of stuff to trade apart from spot forex - futures, options, stocks, crypto, etc.
@dominiccoppens38
@dominiccoppens38 2 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you can PM on KZbin but please reply to this comment everything I need to google/look at on Metaquotes to start looking at this.
@razial5745
@razial5745 2 ай бұрын
Which U.S. brokers offer mt5 for futures? I'm looking for one to get started.
@Oleksiy777
@Oleksiy777 2 ай бұрын
@5745 I know only AMP broker. But there should be others. Let me know if you find out.
@TradeTheBestAvoidTheRest
@TradeTheBestAvoidTheRest 2 ай бұрын
Thank God I stopped attempting to get into CFD trading with those prop firms. Thanks but no thank you. I transitioned into Futures with TOPSTEP May 2023. I’m super glad I saw this coming.
@JohnnyDahabra
@JohnnyDahabra 2 ай бұрын
topstep is a prop firm....
@Wetalkdramas
@Wetalkdramas 2 ай бұрын
Its a futures prop firm , they are not metatrader using
@JohnnyDahabra
@JohnnyDahabra 2 ай бұрын
@@Wetalkdramas I thought he just meant propfirms in general. I never liked metatrader anyway lol
@YuvrajSingh-nd2kd
@YuvrajSingh-nd2kd 2 ай бұрын
Is topstop is good .. please tell me i also want to join
@TradeTheBestAvoidTheRest
@TradeTheBestAvoidTheRest 2 ай бұрын
CFD is prohibited 🚫 to AMERICANS because that area is for NON Americans. We Americans use the Futures’ firms to trade US100 US30 etc.
@Alifrom-Texas
@Alifrom-Texas 2 ай бұрын
Prop firms without US Clients will not survive. Everyone will switch to a different platform like DXTrade, Matchtrader ect. We will also see many more futures prop firms.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Thats the big questin going forward
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Futures prop has been around for decades and started the new prop business model after Volcker rule. Where do you think FTMo got the idea from? The CEO from Topstep said it himself FTMo got the business model from them. So you have futures to thank for this idea. CBOT traders are the innovators in the space.
@gabrielferrer3868
@gabrielferrer3868 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately DXTrade still sucks. It's not user friendly.
@ciananmacreamoinn9253
@ciananmacreamoinn9253 2 ай бұрын
Very clear, good video. Futures are regulated, cfds etc not. Also cheaper entry level to trade cfds. I've only traded futures in a prop firm. I assume one that funds traders to trade cfds can afford to fund traders with far less capital outlay?
@paulwheatley2361
@paulwheatley2361 2 ай бұрын
I stopped trading forex years ago and went to CFDs. Looks like the next move will be Futures. Thank you, good blog.
@uzhoutx
@uzhoutx 2 ай бұрын
❤ Thank you, Boris.
@eTaupe
@eTaupe 2 ай бұрын
time has come to create an open source version of Metatrader, with code compatibility
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Up for the task?
@eTaupe
@eTaupe 2 ай бұрын
@@BKForex definitely. Years ago, I already created a full realtime trading plateform in C++ plugged to IB (tick compression, execution, control, and proprietary EAs). It's but Time, not hardcore coding
@eTaupe
@eTaupe 2 ай бұрын
@@BKForex Let's do it. it's just C++
@asan21able
@asan21able 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't work if you're an American citizen. The problem is the US regulator.
@sheldonbradley9401
@sheldonbradley9401 2 ай бұрын
And if you are a US citizen you will be subjected to the rules as MetaQuotes. If the law is no CFD’s there no need to try and recreate the wheel, you going to get booted anyway 😂. Oh and I’m 20 year software engineer. It would take a long time to build an open source replacement, properly.
@briankelly2037
@briankelly2037 2 ай бұрын
In the past couple weeks I have been demo trading gold with one of the futures prop firms and I find it suits my style of trading very well - much better than Metatrader actually. So, maybe traders should see the turmoil in the Metatrader world as an opportunity to explore a better trading environment.
@k1daily
@k1daily 2 ай бұрын
Which platform ?
@briankelly2037
@briankelly2037 2 ай бұрын
@@k1daily Tradovate
@kevinbrown209
@kevinbrown209 2 ай бұрын
Yes ! Please share what platform?
@_f_6957
@_f_6957 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information
@markostradingjourney
@markostradingjourney 2 ай бұрын
Very interesting video! Thanks for the info!
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@goodbrain41146
@goodbrain41146 2 ай бұрын
I switched to futures as soon as the MFF bs. It’s the best decision I’ve made in my career. I wish I would have made the move sooner. JUST TRADE FUTURES FOLKS!!
@money_5802
@money_5802 2 ай бұрын
How did you learn to trade futures? Can you guide me to some resources?
@quintonmaldonado8368
@quintonmaldonado8368 2 ай бұрын
@@money_5802 if you can read price action and find an edge in forex then futures shouldn't be any learning curve at all. There's no difference in the mechanic ls of price action. Id just say be aware and avoid US news hours mainly if you're on a lower your frame.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
As I said the video futures and CFD trading is teh same. CFDs are in fact priced off the futures curve. The one difference is Forex instruments - aside forn EURUSD the liquidity is limited but you can trade GPBUSD AUDUSD the Canadian Dollar the Swidd Franc on CME futures - but its a learning curve
@fitless
@fitless 2 ай бұрын
Trading futures sucks. They are the easiest to manipulate, gold is a pet hamster compared to them.
@quintonmaldonado8368
@quintonmaldonado8368 2 ай бұрын
@@fitless I have 0 problems growing my account with NASDAQ. I don't care if they manipulate the market as long as they move it.
@yashin2068
@yashin2068 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Sir for the information!
@larskarlsson6651
@larskarlsson6651 2 ай бұрын
Took me 2 days to swich from MT4 to c-Trader. No biggie.
@gangstersparadise_lk
@gangstersparadise_lk 2 ай бұрын
Look at the ctrader website regarding us clients. It will follow soon.
@ExpatTraderFX
@ExpatTraderFX 2 ай бұрын
Dxtrader to the rescue
@alviislam4412
@alviislam4412 2 ай бұрын
@larskarlsson6651, you in USA? How did you switch to C trader if you are trading from US?
@DJx6293
@DJx6293 2 ай бұрын
Exactly. This video maker making a big deal out of it lol
@gangstersparadise_lk
@gangstersparadise_lk 2 ай бұрын
Ctrader is also unavailable for US clients
@Trendlines_mc
@Trendlines_mc 2 ай бұрын
Yo, what about us in the UK? Or my cousin in Africa, and my best friend that trades in Asia? Will they be next?
@user-xc9sh3xm3u
@user-xc9sh3xm3u 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I hope that Forex prop firms get together to make a USA prop firm program for us USA citizens to where they use a USA regulated broker and also to where they do not allow us USA people to trade CFD's, indices, and equities etc on that prop firm platform.
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Topstep. You're welcome.
@hsew
@hsew 2 ай бұрын
Topstep doesn’t support FX
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
@@hsew not the scam version at least. FX futures is better anyway.
@ICT_Made
@ICT_Made 2 ай бұрын
I chose trading personal accounts only a long time ago.
@William_Delbert_Gann
@William_Delbert_Gann 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for insights
@zlinky1113
@zlinky1113 2 ай бұрын
Please can you explain what you mean when you say 'Prop space' or 'Brokerage space'? .........what is the difference? ........surely both are just putting through customer's orders?
@omeiza
@omeiza 2 ай бұрын
Does this affect people living in Canada?
@TheCornish123456
@TheCornish123456 2 ай бұрын
Difference between cTrader and MT is cTrader is 1000% better.
@JaskanFactor
@JaskanFactor 2 ай бұрын
does your analysis include all the tools in the MT market place. Cause the tools in MT market place are bigger than MT itself. MT is dated looking app, but the market place is huge, i have no clue about ctrader, so this is a question ?
@TheCornish123456
@TheCornish123456 2 ай бұрын
​@@JaskanFactorYes even with all the nonsense indicators it's still rubbish, and no not a question otherwise it would have ended in a question mark.
@WongForex
@WongForex Ай бұрын
I just wondering why many brokerages and prop firms still not provide their API like FXCM or OANDA did? Which this could be helpfull to create software or bot to trade for, so we wouldnt need metaquote or any trading platform
@anotherdaytrader_
@anotherdaytrader_ Ай бұрын
Awesome information!
@money_5802
@money_5802 2 ай бұрын
I'm confused. It appears there are two issues at play. Firstly, the United States does not allow CFD trading. Secondly, MetaTrader or MetaTrader platforms are also affected by this issue. Therefore, even if we switch platforms, CFD trading in the United States will still face crackdowns.
@nicholasduffus1375
@nicholasduffus1375 2 ай бұрын
It’s paper trading.. how can a regulator crack down on paper trading. It will all come down to the business model itself hence why regulated brokers like OANDA are launching their own evaluation model firm. They’re betting that if you run it fairly, and transparently (regulated so a must) then you can still profit from the model.
@VictorGonzalez-ct4mc
@VictorGonzalez-ct4mc Ай бұрын
I smell something funny because oanda allowa mt4 & trading cfd with their new evaluation program, I think oanda is trying to muscle their way into prop space
@mrz007
@mrz007 2 ай бұрын
And what about global customers, we still can use Forex Props as long as we move to the new platform. Which is not a problem as we usually do our analysis on Trading View anyways, so we only need to learn how to place orders in the new platforms...not that big of a deal
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
It will all depend on whether other regulators like FCA or ASIC follow suit but for now there is plenty of choce of non US retail traders.
@stephenmackenzie9016
@stephenmackenzie9016 2 ай бұрын
This is good news for Apex
@cryptomaniac5520
@cryptomaniac5520 2 ай бұрын
@BKforex do you know if there are any futures prop firms that offer leverage?
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
All futures prop trading firms offer leverage - its implicit in the product.
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Futures leverage is built in heavily from 50:1 to almost 500:1 intra-day.
@loverkhan7682
@loverkhan7682 2 ай бұрын
Which prop firm are legit and are giving payouts?
@ExpatTraderFX
@ExpatTraderFX 2 ай бұрын
Ctrader and dxtrader on the way
@journeylife7491
@journeylife7491 2 ай бұрын
They will be followed by uncle Sam's fork and spoon.
@theonlygamal
@theonlygamal 2 ай бұрын
Yes they will, CTrader can't even offer services to US citizens, they will face hard punishment
@razorraysolarsavings70
@razorraysolarsavings70 2 ай бұрын
No they won’t.
@rouano1
@rouano1 2 ай бұрын
Meta Quotes is definitely not the end all be all of the prop industry. There's so many other platforms to use and trade copiers are adapting also (Traders Connect etc). There's C Trader DX Trade, Tradingview, Match Trader, Trade Locker etc. It'll be back to business as usual soon and MT4/MT5 won't be missed.
@TradesInfinite
@TradesInfinite 2 ай бұрын
Start trading futures and or stocks guys. Futures are better in my opinion Best of luck to you all
@CertainGoose
@CertainGoose 2 ай бұрын
Okay,Hello Futures🎉
@dvbaby2120
@dvbaby2120 2 ай бұрын
Is futures easier than forex?
@PeterPP-tb1rm
@PeterPP-tb1rm 2 ай бұрын
What to do now? :(
@esakki1448
@esakki1448 2 ай бұрын
What is the probability for the arrival of funding pips prop frim again? Anyone please say...
@theblockcat-ain1572
@theblockcat-ain1572 2 ай бұрын
Question.... will this affect offshore trading with nasdaq100 and us30?? Meaning will they start blocking USA from trading offshore. Not talking about prop firms. I trade with ospreyfx. Im worried.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
All indications say yes it will affect it
@ronniedavis1873
@ronniedavis1873 2 ай бұрын
Hey Boris, what are your sentiments on Surge Trader ? It’s a US Prop firm in Naples, Fl.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
So far they are unaffected
@mathisleyenda8724
@mathisleyenda8724 2 ай бұрын
@@BKForexHow are they unaffected? I have not seen no response to this from US Prop firms
@nickdutson
@nickdutson 2 ай бұрын
@@BKForex They are no longer accepting US clients right now. Here's the message I received after signing up and paying for an account: "We are holding off on setting up any new US based accounts until we have completed our technology upgrade for a new third-party trading app. Your purchase has been voided. We apologize for the inconvenience. We would still love to have you as a SurgeTrader - check back with us shortly and we should be all set!"
@zayfirstplace
@zayfirstplace 2 ай бұрын
Fuck that . More like END OF MT4 and MT5 cus they wanna be difficult. It’s time we set a new standard platform like CTRADER or something
@REIGNTRADER
@REIGNTRADER 2 ай бұрын
and itll def hurt their pocket too
@zayfirstplace
@zayfirstplace 2 ай бұрын
@@REIGNTRADER may as well teach em a lesson cus like cmon man we were all doing just fine before this and plus their platform is from the dinosaur age anyway
@twelvenation6393
@twelvenation6393 2 ай бұрын
Metatrader is trash anyways, Iv avoided anything to do with it in my trading.
@accidentalchrist
@accidentalchrist 2 ай бұрын
Mt5 is the best trading platform esp because of the simplicity
@twelvenation6393
@twelvenation6393 2 ай бұрын
@@accidentalchrist mt5 is straight trash. Iv used both and TradingView is by far better
@validbiz
@validbiz Ай бұрын
Those of us who have learned how to become fundamentally sound, mentally tough and disciplined traders can still trade Forex without Props, there are still many brokers offering MT4/MT5 to retail traders, you don't need a Prop to Prosper once you have learned the skill.
@Erebus__
@Erebus__ 2 ай бұрын
literally not a problem switching to a new platform if you're a serious trader
@fabianshaw_
@fabianshaw_ 2 ай бұрын
Great vid
@mettakindness5999
@mettakindness5999 2 ай бұрын
Sad for forex prop companies and people in USA who want to trade forex with prop. Is there any chance that USA regulators will ever allow CFDs in general for American citizens? Maybe US Futures prop firms will become more affordable and competitive for customers. I wonder if DX Trade and CTrader will ‘get issues’ with the mobile app stores after awhile… :(
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
1. I doubt CFD will be allowed in US anytime soon. US authorities prefer that all speculation happen through centralized futures exchanges like the CME. 2. Futures firms offer massiev dicounts and I actually find them cheaper than Forex firms. Example many futs firm will have 50K account for $50 which is far less than forex firms
@funded-yl6wg
@funded-yl6wg 2 ай бұрын
Ctrader won’t but dxtrade will
@TradesInfinite
@TradesInfinite 2 ай бұрын
Futures is definitely better. ​@@BKForex
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Futures are king. CFD fake derivatives will be forever banned in the states, the precedent is clear Don't get your hopes up on it ever changing. I tested futures FX vs retail FX over a decade ago simultaneously with RJObrien versus IBFX, FXCM and FX solutions (I'm sure Boris and Kathy this rings a bell and some nostalgia) trading the same strategy and it's funny that the futures account was more profitable than the retail FX accounts. The spreads in futures with the RT commission are absolutely cheaper by about 80% than the spread commission you pay these retail FX brokers. You get real liquidity and transparency.
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
TOPSTEP started it all over a decade ago and are the undisputed king and as close to real prop as you'll ever get.
@michaelj.pasley5283
@michaelj.pasley5283 2 ай бұрын
MetaTrader is not the issue. It’s only prop firms. I have personal accounts using MetaTrader. Futures aren’t as liquid as Forex so forcing people over to futures is a huge deal. I can’t trade a 100 lot without slippage on EURUSD futures. On Forex, it takes 10s of thousands of lots to move the EURUSD price.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Yes my video dealt only with prop and I mentioned the tradeoffs for those who want continue to trade forex.
@michaelj.pasley5283
@michaelj.pasley5283 2 ай бұрын
@@BKForexThanks for clarifying. Also it’s not illegal for US citizens to trade CFDs, although I never do. It’s only illegal for US regulated brokerages to offer CFDs to US customers. Going to offshore broker is not illegal! It’s just hard to find brokers who allow US clients, but they do exist. That being said, I ONLY trade Forex, not CFDs. The liquidity is so much better in OTC Forex than in Forex futures.
@jimvalentine2814
@jimvalentine2814 2 ай бұрын
Would like to know why MetaTrader is not setup for trading futures on the CME?
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Actually - it is! - But in US only one firm AMP Futures - they are an FCM not a prop firm offers MT5 as a choice. I've used it it works fine. _ B
@Aywantu
@Aywantu 2 ай бұрын
screw metaquotes
@funded-yl6wg
@funded-yl6wg 2 ай бұрын
Then Screw dxtrade too bc they will face regulators soon
@junaidstevens93
@junaidstevens93 2 ай бұрын
No. The screw the united states.
@umarfaruq1406h
@umarfaruq1406h 2 ай бұрын
Is trading Gold on Futures platform similar to trading Gold on Forex platform?
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@lvdeluxe1
@lvdeluxe1 2 ай бұрын
Futures have big spreads, that's why the US wants their citizens trading them. More money for Wall Street at the end of the day.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Bingo
@radpoker47traderandplayer22
@radpoker47traderandplayer22 2 ай бұрын
penny wide is big? lol
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Big spreads lol when the cost is what? $4 in and out with commission trading futures? How much do you pay with retail for $125k notional with your spread commissions? $5 in $5 out if you have 0.5 pip spreads on eurusd. Oh wait I bet you didn't know $125000 is the true contract specs for trading FX, you've all been brainwashed that it's $100k. Futures spreads are disregarded. You focus on round turn commission something you retail FX kids can't get a grasp of because you think commission is built into the spread and want to see every market operate in such manner.😂😂😂
@OSWALD569
@OSWALD569 2 ай бұрын
The US regulations need to change, I bet that a lot of money will be applied to change the US gov. regulation.
@radpoker47traderandplayer22
@radpoker47traderandplayer22 2 ай бұрын
right.......lmao
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Regulations are fine. I like my CME group monopoly and futures industry monopoly. Everyone that wants to be scammed can forfeit their us citizenship, apply to have another citizenship and GTFO of America.
@kidpoker007
@kidpoker007 2 ай бұрын
What about the futures market? Like Nasdaq
@bill7778
@bill7778 2 ай бұрын
NinjaTrader 8
@muddysky1464
@muddysky1464 2 ай бұрын
New trader here. I'm confused as why the US bans CFD trading. Any1 can please explain to me?
@money_5802
@money_5802 2 ай бұрын
I'm not sure but the United States has never allowed cfd Trading I'm not sure why.
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Banned 10+ years ago go google the reason why. Futures industry wins in lobbying. Besides futures is better. Why drive a fake Ferrari when you can drive the Real thing. This is futures.
@meijin888
@meijin888 2 ай бұрын
So basically the prop trading industry needs it's own exchange. Well, if any bright eye reading this right now has the $$$, the smarts and the balls to take on such a venture, then let's get to it! Elon ? ... you reading this right now ?
@chikujena8422
@chikujena8422 2 ай бұрын
Hats off to funded engineer for giving my refund I hope they will surely come back in the future
@DivineConceptTraders
@DivineConceptTraders 2 ай бұрын
They did?
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Funded engineer lol what a stupid marketing name targeted to what? Engineers that want to be traders? Lol😂
@brayanayala9160
@brayanayala9160 2 ай бұрын
Why can't prop firms offer just forex with no CFD's to US clients?
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Forex and CFds are actually viewed as the same thing by Us authorities - their main concern is that its an off-exchange market
@jordi.lozano.v
@jordi.lozano.v 2 ай бұрын
There are plenty of US prop firms that don't even offer MetaTrader as a platform option.
@cajunphilippine
@cajunphilippine 2 ай бұрын
very interesting
@johnhann1955
@johnhann1955 2 ай бұрын
One of the reasons so is most of the broker in choice the firm work with are wbite labeld unregulatored brokers thats already losted as a bucket shop, scam broker. The firm collects the fees from the eval, the broker collects the trading commission. A nice handshake between two. Why else many prop firm trading objective focus on scalping strategy? If you win too much, they lower your leverage, impose restrictions on your trade size, and ultimately ban you because the firm losses money. And bride you to stay quiet thst they trade against you, theres already proof of this on Reddit that FTMO had done this.
@Dean-pt4pl
@Dean-pt4pl 2 ай бұрын
The main issue here is the EA traders, but there is s really easy solution, trade as normal on ur mt4/5 platform and copy trade via an API or copy trader to whatever software takes up the challenge, to much money at stake to let the regulators win here,
@deanofdisplacement
@deanofdisplacement 2 ай бұрын
That is not true. There are no arguable issues with EA's. The EA's are not out there deceiving nor stealing from anybody. An EA simply trades the strategy you tell it to trade - WITHOUT EMOTION getting involved.
@SignalCityTrading
@SignalCityTrading 2 ай бұрын
I've been thinking about this because I use EAs on 20+ accounts, all sorts of EAs to diversify risk. The biggest problem is specific broker candle data, if I can't log into MT5 on the same broker that the prop firm runs on, then the trades will differ. I wonder if it would be close enough to have little impact on overall results though. Something I've been thinking about, what do you think?
@ShortLifeHax
@ShortLifeHax 2 ай бұрын
Learn to translate your code to other languages like python c# etc. Metaquotes is laughable.
@filips2504
@filips2504 2 ай бұрын
how much there's customers from US comparing to Africa and east(india pakistan)? )) i think the most part of customers of forex props are from outside US, so i don't think that it will change much, just forex props will be not so available to Us customers as now and MQ will stay without this part of retail market
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Its a good question - I am not certain but I believe US is prob 20% of forex prop
@jonascastejon5888
@jonascastejon5888 2 ай бұрын
I see some people super excited about futures, but the irony is futures are *way* more dangerous to trade than cfds because of how super liquid it is (prices move real fast especially in Nasdaq and you need wider SLs to not get stopped out every 5 seconds) and therefore requires much more money to start trading it as they're not nearly as leveraged as cfds bc they're completely standardized. Don't get me wrong, I love me some micros, the CME did the right thing creating those specifically geared towards the everyday men or women retail trader so they can try to make some money on the side trading. Yes, trading futures can be really fun, but I'd argue they blow way more accounts and quicker than cfds ever does.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Micros really leveled the playing field in terms of size
@martinsmartin5689
@martinsmartin5689 2 ай бұрын
Futures trading is the future.... I've already migrated to futures trading .. in-between i trade only gold futures
@gabrielpaulino2791
@gabrielpaulino2791 2 ай бұрын
Im a Futures trader. It would be nice if we get a wave of FX traders to come make the currency futures space more liquid.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@QCKeith
@QCKeith 2 ай бұрын
My MQL4/5 based Expert Advisors work on all financial instruments. Which futures brokers offer the MT4/5 platforms and have the best ease-of-entry? #TRADING_IN_THE_USA_HAS_BECOME_SO_EXHAUSTING
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
You can trade MT5 with AMP futures in US
@QCKeith
@QCKeith 2 ай бұрын
@@BKForex Appreciate it 👍🏽
@TheForceI
@TheForceI 2 ай бұрын
Forex is way better than futures in every way possible im not gonna spend 200 every month on an account I’m still on demo on
@bassadelica
@bassadelica 2 ай бұрын
No, the removal from App Store was 100% related to the escalation of Ukraine war and MANY Russian based apps were removed at the same time. Great theory though
@restassuredworship
@restassuredworship 2 ай бұрын
i wondered about that
@CliffordKimani
@CliffordKimani 2 ай бұрын
Ctrader is easy adopt
@tareqsaleh6854
@tareqsaleh6854 2 ай бұрын
Thank god im not a us citizen, anyway i don't think this is the end for prop firms, it's hunderds of millions of dollars business, it will not go away, especially 5ers and ftmo
@quintonmaldonado8368
@quintonmaldonado8368 2 ай бұрын
Apex is where it's at. I pay my monthly fee but there's no KZbin drama surrounding them ever.
@money_5802
@money_5802 2 ай бұрын
I understand that the challenge with Apex is difficult more difficult than most challenges.
@daneiciayoung4622
@daneiciayoung4622 2 ай бұрын
Only thing I don’t like is they cap how much you make
@quintonmaldonado8368
@quintonmaldonado8368 2 ай бұрын
@@daneiciayoung4622 Apex? In what way?
@fitless
@fitless 2 ай бұрын
And how about the thousands of expert advisors mt4 and mt5 has, many of them free?! How can we use them on apex?! If forex is hard to trader futures are a lot harder.
@MrDarthBudda
@MrDarthBudda 2 ай бұрын
6C Futures Forex CAD
@Khari99
@Khari99 Ай бұрын
This is not exactly true. There are a lot of firms that are fine just dealing with EU clients and they can use still MetaTrader. A lot of prop firms are switching to using DXTrade to keep us clients and there's nothing stopping anyone in the US from using a demo MT5/MT4 account and copying your trades over to an account linked to DXTrade. People are adapting. So I don't think its a death blow necessarily. Just very unfortunate.
@ranjanrai3766
@ranjanrai3766 2 ай бұрын
Everyone likes Stock Market but not Forex
@jcombs5495
@jcombs5495 2 ай бұрын
You can thank JB and Pelosi. The word is that next - retail traders will not be able to trade TD Ameritrade recently bought by Schwab. But forex will survive if JB gets out of office.
@mjjackal
@mjjackal 2 ай бұрын
True Forex Funds coming back Feb 19th. Wonder if I'll get my challenge money refunded? I was 2 days into my challenge when Meta revoked their license. I knew then the forex prop world in the U.S. was toast. Last one to futures is a rotten egg.
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Please let us know your experience - B
@DacaTainoKiskeya
@DacaTainoKiskeya 2 ай бұрын
If U.S. traders can't trade Cfd's these prop firms should just restrict us to trading forex instead of banning us and removing MT4 and MT5. I bought a ftmo challenge before the the banned and was unable to trade for a few days bc of family stuff and now that I am able they removed mt4. I am having the hardest time figuring out the new platform. The new platform is not user friendly and it sucks. Probably going to loose my challenge fee.
@lvjungle2840
@lvjungle2840 2 ай бұрын
I heard that you can ask for refund. Few people this and they got it
@DacaTainoKiskeya
@DacaTainoKiskeya 2 ай бұрын
@@lvjungle2840 Hey thanx for letting me know. I just live chatted with a rep and they gonna see what they can do for me. Btw the platform has been freezing up on me. Its really bad. BTW do you know of any propfirm that still uses meta trader and has not banned any US traders?
@DacaTainoKiskeya
@DacaTainoKiskeya 2 ай бұрын
@@lvjungle2840 I had to email a few times but I finally got my refund. I would have not even thought of asking for a refund if it was not for your reply. Many thanx and good luck to you.
@danny.ray101
@danny.ray101 Ай бұрын
It's kind of ridiculous this is all because of the apple store. I am always surprised to hear when traders depend on their phone more than on their computer.
@BKForex
@BKForex Ай бұрын
Its more fear of regulation to come
@WUNNA3500
@WUNNA3500 2 ай бұрын
damn why😢
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Watch the video and find out!
@HappyMan36
@HappyMan36 2 ай бұрын
This is crazy???
@PeterPP-tb1rm
@PeterPP-tb1rm 2 ай бұрын
They don't work in the USA, you have to go to Canada
@FinancialConsultdotcodotza
@FinancialConsultdotcodotza Ай бұрын
Prop traders bet against clients and I would prefer a direct to market with A book traders
@lbrtolbrto3647
@lbrtolbrto3647 2 ай бұрын
I don't use iPhone... 🤷🏾
@DrHj-uz4cn
@DrHj-uz4cn 2 ай бұрын
Can we trade eur/usd on futures in the USA?
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Yes - that is one instrument that is very liquid
@johanwiehahn5101
@johanwiehahn5101 2 ай бұрын
Great question! I also (mostly) trade eurusd; at least the answer to your question is positive!
@DrHj-uz4cn
@DrHj-uz4cn 2 ай бұрын
@@johanwiehahn5101 Thx. Yes the price action is cleaner to read without the wick outs. Im funded through forex firms mostly trading it. Going to go to the futures side with all thats going on rn.
@jivins
@jivins 2 ай бұрын
eurusd is available on futures how ? @@BKForex
@cloudkicker-gx7gb
@cloudkicker-gx7gb 2 ай бұрын
If you can’t , you can trade the futures contract of EUR/USD, US futures firms will probably be the way forward in America
@chrisNkyla1
@chrisNkyla1 8 күн бұрын
No doubt that traders will follow prop firms regardless of technology. With that said, there needs to be a deeper discussion about why US traders are prohibited from trading CFD's by the "Land of the free" government, while the rest of the world trades freely. Talk about government over reach.
@ranjanrai3766
@ranjanrai3766 2 ай бұрын
Good
@BKForex
@BKForex 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately many prop traders dont feel this way
@jntaylor29
@jntaylor29 2 ай бұрын
I have always hated metatrader about time they leave that garbage behind.
@pankajarya6580
@pankajarya6580 2 ай бұрын
Look, people who want to trade with prop firm they will switch platform easily because for trading capital is main not platform mt gonna lose some people for sure
@20kevron
@20kevron 2 ай бұрын
They need competition.
@thekillerphython
@thekillerphython 2 ай бұрын
Metaquote is not going to make even a small dent in prop firm business
@victorduran4655
@victorduran4655 2 ай бұрын
Prop firms are not going, stop giving false information lol. Yes, you can't use Metatrader.... It sucks. However, now you will use a different trading platform, that is all. You will still be able to trade prop firms, the only thing that is changing is the trading platform that you are not used to
@ICT_Made
@ICT_Made 2 ай бұрын
If they crack down on CFD's forex prop firms will diminish in the U.S.
@simplemind7
@simplemind7 Ай бұрын
There's an uptade by Kathy Lien with good news, prop firms are here to stay but more transparent & flexible for all.
@granthagen6190
@granthagen6190 Ай бұрын
Trade futures
@TezyTezyTez
@TezyTezyTez 2 ай бұрын
C trader to the rescue
@jordi.lozano.v
@jordi.lozano.v 2 ай бұрын
If you trade Futures there's nothing to worry about. Only affects FOREX.
@PJK_1974
@PJK_1974 Ай бұрын
Wtf is wrong with America not allowing CFD’s
@BKForex
@BKForex Ай бұрын
they want everyone to tarde on exchange
@neilsonmartin23
@neilsonmartin23 2 ай бұрын
They just dont want the lil guy to make money, only the institutions smh.
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