Metroid Prime 2: Echoes - AntDude

[@Zomby_Goast]

The Trilogy version of MP2 is my favorite in the series. Specifically because it made the Spider Ball Guardian *not* be a gigantic pain in the ass by giving you the Spring Ball.

[@loganseydel7155]

Yes!! The bomb slots weren't so time-sensitive that way

[@BoundaryBreak]

the metroid prime trilogy really helped to make prime 2 much more tolerable. dare i say even great

[@ReconVelocity]

I agree kinda

[@ReconVelocity]

Shesez also HEY MATE! Boundary Break

[@natewazinski3585]

Shesez have you done an episode on The Prime Trilogy? Also, will you be doing super Mario Oddysey when it releases?

[@KARS_K]

Shesez will you make a boundary break for samus returns

[@loganolson6274]

Shesez let me ignore your comment and spam you with requests

[@williamrodriguez8957]

Everyone bitches about commandos, but they can be frozen and shattered using the dark beam and missiles. This alone makes them objectively easier to dispatch than the ghosts.

[@GatorRay]

+William Rodriguez Huh good to know.

[@williamrodriguez8957]

Timdeuces that's what I said.

[@williamrodriguez8957]

it doesn't need to be fast, rezbits are incredibly slow before you alert them, and killing one usually doesn't alert the others.

[@williamrodriguez8957]

They don't pull out the force field if you shoot them before they notice you.

[@mr.mermit6189]

William Rodriguez The Chozo Ghosts are actually quite easy with 1 super missile and one charge shot. Also, please, use the X-Ray Visor.

[@SuperGo4]

“agon wastes blends with torvus bog” yeah a DESERT BLENDING IN WITH A LAKE

[@mariokarter13]

Nintendo history is like the rings of a tree, look back at any given period and you'll find one oddly specific idea they did a lot for a year or two. In this case, the Dark/Light world for Metroid Prime2: Echoes and Twilight Princess.

[@Dracomut]

Well actually they are no strangers to that idea with Link to the Past

[@fungusonus]

and prime 2 wasn't made by nintendo

[@swishfish8858]

Nah, this was the era of the Hundred Floor Dungeons. Paper Mario TTYD, Wind Waker, the Gamecube Pokemon RPGs (even though they were outsourced). It was painful.

[@Alakaizer]

Twilight Princess wasn't a proper dark world, though. It was the same world, you were just locked into wolf mode.

[@jonesthemoblin1400]

I'd say it was more the time of shadow "insert character here". We had Shadow Mario, the SAX, and Dark Samus in pretty quick succession. Hell, Dark Link even got a spotlight in Twilight Princess but only in an exposition dump. Would have been really cool to fight a Dark Link that could transform into a Dark Wolf Link. Oh, Dark Link was also a main villain in Four Swords Adventures around that time frame. There was also Copy X and Omega in the Mega Man Zero series being evil versions of X and Zero respectively.

[@KashKey-]

"They take forever to die!" *Proceeds to use mostly the Power Beam.* antdude pls

[@Euclidiuss]

They take forever to die in the first game! USING THE PLASMA BEAM!

[@TheSefirosu200x]

@@Euclidiuss they weren't in the first game.

[@Euclidiuss]

@@TheSefirosu200x Is he talking about the bosses? If he was then I was saying that the bosses also take forever to die using the most powerful weapon.

[@Alakaizer]

The Dark Pirate Troopers are super easy, barely an inconvenience. Charged Dark Beam locks them in place, a single missile shatters them after that.

[@ghostofsilence2697]

@@Alakaizer ikr its like most people forgot dark beam had ice beam qualities

[@Treyworld]

Metroid Prime 2: Echoes' gameplay is better than the first to me because I like how they made it harder and more strategic like a real survivor action game.

[@cursedusd3939]

KIRBY IS GETTING EATEN BY A METROID IN THE BACKGROUND Edit: so many likes ... thx

[@ReconVelocity]

USD for real?

[@DragonKirby]

Gameburger IT'S SO CUTE IT'S HARD TO HANDLE IT

[@somethingidk7355]

Aaand I just had an idea. Kirby and Metroid crossover, the final boss is Ridley with 02 wings, a Metroid attached to him, and possessed by Dark Matter.

[@NSFSponsor]

More like the Metroid IS GETTING EATTEDED

[@radbones3172]

you fool, the meteoid isnt eating him, he ate the metroid and took its powers, its simply a hat

[@TrippyCommentaries]

I love this game, not as good as the first sure... but I thought the gloomy atmosphere gave it a unique feel. 10/10 in my book, and I'm always surprised how many people don't like it.

[@jjc4924]

Yeah. There are many people that don't like the game.

[@Euclidiuss]

It has the best boss fights, its the hardest Metroid Game, and let' take a moment to appreciate the coolest area in all of video games; The Sanctuary Fortress.

[@mohamedabdelfatah7297]

@@Euclidiuss the boss fights are good at best, nothing spectacular. And sanctuary fortress is cool, but only if you are 15

[@josiahferrell5022]

@@mohamedabdelfatah7297 and why should your age have anything to do with it?

[@ghostofsilence2697]

@@mohamedabdelfatah7297 i thought most of the boss fights were better than those in prime 1

[@Tyler-sy7jo]

The light and dark beams actually are incredibly useful and solve some of the issues you had with certain encounters. Dark Pirate Commandos for example are dispatched easily with a charged dark beam shot (which homes in and freezes them even if they're in the middle of teleporting) and then firing a missile which instantly shatters them. The light beam on the other hand I found really laid the hurt on many of the bosses in the game. The fact that they require ammo is a nuisance, but it's not too hard to come across ammo for them (shooting a cache of some sort with light beam gives a shitload of dark beam ammo and vice versa) and after a couple beam expansions (which aren't too hard to come by even if you're only lightly exploring) you almost never run out of ammo again imo unless you are using one beam exclusively (Which I did on my first playthrough since I assumed the dark beam was useless against most of the enemies in the game.,..Boy was I wrong) Another annoying enemy that can be dispatched easily with light/dark beam are Grenchlers and their dark counterparts. Both varieties freeze solid upon being hit in the back with a charged dark beam shot, and some heavy ordinance will wreck their life (Or some charged light beam shots in the Dark Grenchler's case since it takes extra damage from light beam). Aside from Ingsmashers, most of the enemies that people complain about being rediculously annoying to fight can be dispatched easily with light beam, dark beam or a combination of both. I think people just don't end up playing with the light or dark beam much because of the ammo system which is a shame because it really does streamline a lot of encounters. tl;dr I actually found myself using the light and dark beam on my latest playthrough of echoes way more than I used the ice, plasma or wave beam in Prime 1.

[@Tyler-sy7jo]

Honestly, I'd say in terms of enjoyment I'd say I found Echoes was my favourite (I am also one of those people that appreciated the environments and really like the idea of the dark world and the ing), I found the sky temple keys were placed a lot more obviously. Every room that has a key in its dark world counterpart has a dead luminoth containing a lore entry that gives you a hint as to where exactly the key is in the room and there are no dead luminoth with red scan auras that don't mark a sky key. I actually found all the sky temple keys on my own upon realizing that and picked them up while I was backtracking looking to unlock more secrets and boost my item completion anyway. I found I got more use out of light, dark and annihilator beams more than their prime 1 counterparts. The power bomb guardian is awful though. And I forget what I did, but I did something that actually made the Chykka much less aggravating. I also liked the Luminoth being a race on the brink of extinction and how the last temple has all those hibernation pods and the feeling that I'm saving a race near extinction as opposed to learning about one that's already gone. I suppose Prime 2 was a lot more focused on exactly what the bad thing was than Prime 1. Prime 1 is a very close second though if not edging ahead a bit. I'd say Prime 3 (while still a game I really enjoyed) was my least favourite (note: least FAVOURITE) of the series because while there were multiple planets, they all felt a lot smaller than even a single zone in either of the previous titles. But I Still love all three games.

[@ghostofsilence2697]

Easy way to kill an ingsmasher. Take down its shields and hit it with a darkburst. On hard mode a single darkburst takes around 66% of its health away. And since hp values are doubled for enemies on hardmode (or your damage value is cut by 50% which ever way you want to look at it) on normal it should be an instant kill one you disrupt the shield.

[@ExtremeAce]

@@ghostofsilence2697 Easier way to kill Ingsmasher: Power Bomb

[@RekRakJat]

Metroid has had Zombies before, in Metroid Fusion. They were one of the weakest things an X-Parasite could turn into, dying in only a few hits, however they always could get back up. I'm only a couple seconds into this video, but I think this would've made more sense to have the X's in this game. I mean- They're more or less the same as these dark things.

[@bakaron7842]

Metroid fashion was the best!!!

[@vampiriccottoncandy458]

Remember this was still BEFORE metroid 2? So the metroid still were there, x’s predator. So of course they wouldnt be here.

[@theakiwar9118]

It wouldn’t make any sense to have the X lore wise. It would break the entire lore. The X were not known by the GF until Fusion. The Chozo purposefully didn’t share information about the X. I mean Samus Returns explains the whole SR388 fiasco pretty well

[@jacobsimoneau101]

@@bakaron7842 fashion lol

[@leroysteveson38]

R I P Kirby plush (that Metroid will taste my vengeance! )

[@Awesoman9001]

Finally! Someone else who noticed!

[@KnightmareDigitalis]

after two years, its still there

[@leroysteveson38]

You just reopened a wave of emotions, thanks you

[@Mojo1356]

No no no- Kirby is immune to Metroids. Remember Dream Land 3? They don’t harm Kirby at all (Smash is non cannon to the Kirby franchise, so don’t use that as a counterpoint).

[@CirkuitBreaker]

The dark commandos become a joke once you realize you can freeze them (like if you were using the ice beam) with a charged dark beam shot and then instantly kill them with a missile. In almost all of your footage, you're using the power beam on enemies you shouldn't. It seems you're afraid to use your light and dark beams because you're afraid of running out of ammo. I know, I've been there. Use the beams anyway. They are meant to be used. You rarely, if ever, will actually run out of ammo. Also go watch KingK and The Geek Critique's videos on Metroid Prime 2. It might give you a new perspective.

[@jimmyjohnjoejr]

I always run out of ammo when I'm in a fight. Then again i've only played this once. But that was on easy mode (trilogy mode). I've actually just started a veteran playthrough. I've been looking at tips, such as the dark beam freezing properties that also make missiles super powerful against the frozen enemy, so maybe I'll enjoy it more. I do like a challenge, but I don't like all the backtracking.

[@jjc4924]

It's called opinion. And it's fine.

[@nicksmi56]

Just because the review is negative doesn't mean he needs to go get a new perspective that just happens to agree with yours.

[@Grit_Frame]

I hope that Kirby plush doesn't die from the Metriod.

[@BlackINKim]

Kirby had kicked some Metroid ass already back on the SNES that one time, he can do it again.

[@s1lenttaked0wn-90]

Black INK.I.M nice reference

[@RapDog62]

You never really elaborated on the beam ammo complaint, but it ties into what made this my favorite Metroid. The atmosphere. Everything from having to carefully trek through Aether's poisonous atmosphere, the dead Luminoth and Troopers everywhere, having to think about ammo; it contributed to a delightfully tense atmosphere for me. Same reason Fusion is my favorite 2D Metroid. The backtracking complaint is also odd. Prime had you go through Magmoor to Phendrana and then back again SO many times it can make one lose their mind. As you said, Echoes just makes you do it within the one environment. Prime also had several bosses suffer from going on too long with highly predictable attacks, like Ridley and Thardus. The bosses in Echoes were more varied in tactics. Nothing quite like boost-balling into a security drone or grappling to fire multiple missiles into the Chykka either. Or Quadraxis! You also didn't give credit to Sanctuary Fortress' visuals. Let's be honest here, the environments in Prime were well done but ultimately a stock fire, plant, ice, etc. world with the exception of the Phazon Mines. The Fortress is nothing like this series has ever seen, and it's beautiful. Though if you really want to know why some consider Echoes better than Prime, the Geek Critique has an amazing video. I did enjoy video though! And there's one thing we can both agree on. OMG WILL THE COMMANDO PIRATES GO AWAY ALREADY?!

[@courdell7426]

Amen brother. Echoes gang 👍

[@Sean27007]

@@courdell7426 MP2 BEST GAME

[@Real1Gaming]

Here's something not many will say; I actually really enjoyed the multiplayer! I played the Wii version of it a lot with my friend and we had a great time!

[@shinoburaiu]

Real1Gaming Same here, me and a few friends still play it.

[@Deathmetal247]

I have great memories playing 4 way split screen with my siblings for hours on end. Later we did the same with metroid prime hunter..... HOURS.... lots of laughter. Good times.

[@CompleteProducer84]

It does look fun! I was a HUGE Goldeneye multiplayer split screen player, so I might enjoy it if it’s anything like that

[@Wheaty03]

dark moose sounds like brutalmoose's evil alter ego

[@TheKritken]

Dark commandos uh? all you have to do is use your dark beam, fire a charged dark shot, freeze them and shatter them with a missile, that's aaaaaall....

[@adre2194]

dank moose is my favorite meteroid character

[@MichaelManning15]

Oh it’s finally here, I’ve been ANTicipating this one for awhile!

[@breakbeatrudie4414]

*Seinfeld theme plays*

[@Luminositri]

Haha Ha very funny.

[@WilliamHasMelted]

UltiMike 64 fuck you

[@thatdudegaming3501]

ANT it great?

[@breakbeatrudie4414]

Nicholas Policarpo "Boo" who?

[@hxc00p3r2]

Prime 2 is my favorite due to its immersive dark atmosphere and overall mood

[@jamescm38]

“Samus is back baby and she isn’t going away any time soon… f-fingers crossed” 2023: LAUGHS IN DREAD AND PRIME REMASTER

[@Danny-yl2nw]

I love how Kirby is being drained by a Metroid in the background.

[@darkblades1201]

I mean. It happens in the actual Kirby games

[@hoodedman6579]

You have to freeze the Dark Pirate Commandos with the Dark Beam and shatter them with a missile. Note that they can still suck even with this until you have the Dark Visor, but they're no problem afterwards. If you ever plan to play on hard mode, test which enemies can be frozen and shattered, as that doesn't go away on hard mode.

[@patyos2]

lol yeah I was like man if he played hard mode he would probly get wretked by Dark Commandos XD especially since hes forced to kill them.

[@Pokemaniac_Nick]

Pro tip for the final fetch quest keys. The clue and the key are in the same room on both worlds. The clue is on Aether and the Key is in that room's Dark Aether equivalent.

[@NicoleMay316]

"Samus is back, baby, and she isn't going away any time soon...fingers crossed." Good news, my friend. Prime is Remastered, Fusion is on the Switch, we got a brand new game that finally pays off the Dread tease, Prime 4 is on the way. Life is good.

[@giorgiomx]

I've never played a horror game and I know this one is not a Horror game but Echoes managed to give me the first shivers(from a game) in my life and it took me some time to realize it, that I was having what people called goosebumps or something like that, every time I entered a room after several times, I knew there were inks there and I evaded them going directly to the next exit but when they appeared(behind me) they made this strange sound and I was just "feeling" them behind me reaching as I was running ...dang doors took forever to open :P

[@haroonmahmood3809]

You do know that you can kill all of those dark pirate commandos with just a charged dark beam followed with a missile, like how you would kill a metroid in the previous game.

[@GameElement64]

I find MP2 to be the most polarizing of the trilogy. There are 2 people I know of when they talk about this game: The people who think it doesn't compare to the first game & call it the black sheep, and the other people (me included) who say it's the best game in the entire trilogy. I love Prime 2 the most because it fixes so many problems I had with Prime 1 and it also has backtracking done right whereas Prime 1 was such a hassle because of how Talon IV's map was designed compared to Aether's

[@Euclidiuss]

You sound like KingK. I totally agree. Metroid Prime 1 is way too easy. Prime 2 is harder. I can safely say that I have beaten each prime game on their hardest difficulty, hypermode. Fight me.

[@mrburns366]

I friggin hate prime 2.. lol

[@slormple]

Did anyone else see the metroid eating kirby

[@emperorender8201]

Cthulhu Dude I saw it as I looked at this comment

[@NagoTheCat]

Cthulhu Dude Yes I pay special attention to All Kirby related content in Antdude’s videos.

[@brundeasie_OG]

My thought was "SAVE THE KIRBY!"

[@kirberburgy]

@@NagoTheCat In Kirby's Dream Land 3, Metroids appear, but Kirby is not hurt by them.

[@gayluigi6495]

This game kinda gets overlooked.

[@Wheaty03]

get outta here green mario! you're just a knockoff of purple luigi!

[@ReconVelocity]

That's not Mario... That's GREEN Mario

[@Fxbox920]

Whoa cool wasnt expecting this. Love your vids dude of ants

[@MissedAWide2]

The amount of metroid prime reviews I’ve seen in the past few days is insane

[@Vandreand]

It's so interesting all this Metroid and kingdom hearts reviews overlapping each other. The geek critique actually found this game to have less back track than prime one and the combat a lot easier (he used the op mixed light and dark beam)

[@Lomaxxx53]

Angel Egel for real, all reviewers are making kingdom hearts and metroid prime. And I watch them all.

[@diegog1853]

i know right? i was thinking the exact same thing, and somecallmejohnny with the kingdom hearts reviews, they both released the birth by sleep review while i'm playing it and i just can't watch them because of that

[@Vandreand]

So do I. Now they have to make Samus Return reviews and mark brown (Game maker's toolkit) must analyze the prime series!

[@Euclidiuss]

GEEK CRITIQUE LETS FREAKING GO DUDE!

[@ethangoodfriend7018]

Please do prime 3

[@fletchy40]

Yes, do it

[@stuffnjunk4633]

But he never did :(

[@pastproject4932]

Oof

[@yerman0564]

Maybe when Prime 4 gets a reveal trailer?

[@NanaKyoto]

Wow, two years? Better late than never, am I right? Right...?

[@Wheaty03]

Nana-Kyoto why do I see you everywhere?

[@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506]

Hayden Wheatley Never seen him before 😉

[@itsvairen334]

I'm sure its a her...

[@setsers1]

Nana-Kyoto Yep

[@mydadneverlovedme8567]

Nana-Kyoto *thicc*

[@DrkRyu]

I will never understand the issue with beam ammo. In Prime 1 you use Power Beam until you get Wave, then Wave up to Ice, then Ice up to Plasma and then Plasma only. The weapons are designed to be stronger than the last one which discourages weapon swaps. Prime 2 forces you to think about when to use which one and for what enemy.

[@ltactionbutton7220]

Prime 2 > Prime 1 Fight me :)

[@patyos2]

no need to fight I totally agree unless you wanna take it to Prime 2 Echoes Multiplayer =D !!!

[@Melkac]

I don't fight objectively wrong people.

[@SonicAndTailsHD]

I ain't gonna fight ima agree yo

[@benjaminrearden5724]

LtActionButton I agree completely.

[@insertnewnickname7214]

Prime 1 is definitely the least powerful of the prime trilogy

[@psycholuigiman]

Okay, am I just a freaking super genius gaming god? I feel like I'm the only person (besides my brother), who had almost no trouble with the key hunt, enjoyed the key hunt, and can't comprehend why people have such a hard time.

[@patyos2]

I say the same thing for the Wind Waker Triforce Hunt

[@psycholuigiman]

Awwwwwww snap! So do I! Aside from the loads of cash I need to pay Tingle, I'm fine with the Triforce hunt in Wind Waker too! Finally, someone who gets it! :D

[@ChaosMetroid9000]

I find it strange that people dislike these things so vehemently sometimes.

[@psycholuigiman]

It's really hard for me sometimes. Like, I feel like such a snob anytime people complain about this stuff. My gut reaction is to just assume their an idiot who doesn't like reading, but that's so wrong and messed up and probably not even the reason.

[@swishfish8858]

Something I learned recently in a flamewar about the Fallout games: Gaming is one of those amazing mediums that has something for everyone, and everyone's brain is wired differently. The way my brain works is why I put worldbuilding and atmosphere ahead of gameplay. Some people can't do that, they put gameplay ahead of all else. Others still prefer a good story and characters, some hate racing sections in action games, etc. The problem comes in when the opinions that have the most agreement get to dictate the "rules" of what's universally good and bad. Anyone whose brain thinks otherwise suddenly become villains, simply because there are more people who think differently than who think similarly. That's how flame wars start. "Different strokes for different folks" is a fairly overlooked saying, I think. You're all wondering why most people hate the endgame fetch quests of the early Gamecube era, while those people can't understand why you like it. The point isn't to understand, since you're on different thought paths from eachother. The point is to accept, move on, and if you're willing, learn something from it.

[@rapfye7839]

Only channel where I don’t skip the ads

[@fungusonus]

Squiddo skipping the ads doesn't take revenue from youtubers, skippable ads just cost less for companies to put on youtube (i think, correct me if im wrong)

[@rapfye7839]

Harry Strupp they earn more money if you dont skip them.

[@CoffeeDrinkerKim]

I'm one of those people that prefer 2 over 1 :)

[@benjaminrearden5724]

TentacularTaku Same.

[@cool-dx3df]

Me too

[@ghostofsilence2697]

Same here

[@theakiwar9118]

For future reference: The commandos can be dispatched in mere seconds. Use a charged Dark beam and shoot one missile at them. That will instantly kill any commando. In Metroid strategy is key. Use what you have

[@Jimmylikehalo]

I never knew there was a 4th ball either so your not alone

[@d0nkdaddy]

The sky temple key clues aren't cryptic. Where you find the clue on aether, the key is in that same room on dark aether. Plus the highlighted word in the clue is the name of the room the key is in on the map screen.

[@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506]

Good review, although I do not agree with some points....Metroid Prime 2 is my favourite Metroid game ever... Closely followed by Super Metroid and at third place Prime 1... All games are legendary by their own right but Prime 2 had 1 thing to absolute perfection, (The point we disagrees the most) and that made it the winner in my book: The Atmosphere is out of this world (Pun intended)

[@Melkac]

"Metroid Prime 2 is my favorite metroid game ever" Shit taste.

[@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506]

Supercyzer You couldn't be more wrong ... 1st I'm from the Netherlands 2nd No I'm no COD fan... far from it in fact. I'm merely stating my opinion and if you don't agree with it: Thats not my problem ... But apparently when someone has a different opinion than you, that is too hard to understand? Grow up kid and stop trying to insult people ... Thats just pathetic.

[@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506]

Daimon Shaw Thats your opinion m8... A lot of people love Metroid Prime 2.

[@adre2194]

that pun earned you a like

[@Melkac]

+Recht_voor_zjin_raap Nah it's not just my opinion, to prefer a subpar Metroid Prime game over Super or Prime 1 because of "muh atmosphere" you must have pretty shit taste.

[@CyColt]

as for why there were zombies, the Ing can possess and animate corpses.

[@dynamicpanda6464]

Prime 2 is my favorite in the trilogy. It’s as immersive as the first, and the combat is so much better that Prime 1’s. In Prime, there was never any strategy outside of “purple enemies are only damaged by the wave beam”. The backtracking isn’t nearly as bad as Prime 1, where you have to go through Magmoor a million times. Of course, Echoes isn’t perfect. The backtracking still isn’t great, like in Super Meyroid when it’s been half the game since you were in Brinstar, or even just the endgame trek from Ridley to Tourian. There are still plenty of enemies that boil down to picking the right color, or just use the right weapon. But I prefer Prime 2 to the other 2 in the Trilogy. Prime 1 is my least favorite of the trilogy.

[@alistair4909]

I can respect that. I do kind of wonder if maybe the bad rap is from the wii version maybe the motion controls aren't implemented well or other things were changed for the worse in the port.

[@jjc4924]

I don't find the backtracking in Prime 1 that bad honestly. I enjoy the game so much that I ignore how irritating the backtracking can be.

[@skunkooo]

honestly prime 1's backtracking is abysmal imo. prime 2 did it so much better

[@Jdudec367]

nah 2 had worst backtracking although I am pissed at magmoor how the heck do I know how to get the artifact without looking it up?

[@TheSefirosu200x]

@@alistair4909 no, if anything, it would be the opposite. Playing the Wii version made me realize just how terrible the controls were back on the GameCube, and the motion controls with the Wii made the first two games FAR better, which is a feat considering they were already great. But, the Wii version was a definite improvement because the controls were so much better.

[@michaeloverton04]

It's been 2 years, I think that it's about time for a metroid prime 3 review.

[@benwasserman8223]

Definitely the most challenging of the Prime trilogy, even if it's also the most infuriating in terms of backtracking

[@wolfekupo5651]

honestly I would say the original is the worse offender without any of the sequence breaking (hello Boost Ball to Space Jump then all the way back), at least the only real back tracking in Prime 2 (Power Bombs) ends with a short cut back to where you need to go

[@Bisalina5]

Don´t forget the whole Gravity Suit to Phazon Suit thing.

[@phazonlord0098]

Primarily because it doesn't fell like backtracking most of time, but just pointless padding.

[@Jump-Man]

Ben Wasserman i skip the Dark Suit in echoes 2 and it's a bitch to fight that one boost ball guardian try it someday it's an awesome challenge.

[@Bisalina5]

I have skipped the Dark Suit often but i wouldn´t quite describe the boost ball guardian as a challenge. It´s more revolved around unfair RNG or fair RNG then a challenge.

[@autobotodst8227]

One helpful tip to deal with the Dark Commandos is that the Charged Dark Beam shot to freeze them (like the Ice Beam) and shoot one missile when they are frozen to kill them immediately. After I found that out, no one should ever complain about them ever again lol xP Granted, Dark Beam shouldn't do well against Dark enemies...but I experimented and it helps SO much!

[@ActionJaxonH]

You think the sense of immersion and atmosphere is lacking here? Seriously? The immersion in Prime 2 absolutely DESTROYS that of Prime 1. It's the game's biggest accomplishment!

[@voltorian-minecraft]

I see what you mean about the ammo count, but story wise, they are designed by the Luminoth, which had ammo in mind

[@NeoSlith]

AntDude, I love your videos, but there was a lot you omitted from this game. I love Prime 2 because to me, it's Samus at her most powerful. While you talked about the Light and Dark beams (which are just color variations of the Plasma and Ice beams from Prime 1) you didn't talk at all about the Annihilator Beam (which can home in on targets), and its beam combo the Sonic Boom which hits a large area instantly. There's also the Light and Dark Bursts; the Light Burst incinerates anything in its radius and deals extra damage to creatures on Dark Aether while the Dark Burst creates a miniature black hole. There's also the Seeker Missiles which allow Samus to fire up to five missiles at once, all onto one target or separate ones. I know a lot of the boss fights are annoying (the Boost Ball Guardian was actually made easier in the Trilogy because he was so hard in the GCN version) but Quardraxis was a really fun fight, and I thought the final Dark Samus fight was really cool too. I also found the end game key-fetching to be much easier than in Prime 1. The necessary rooms to visit had the text in blue to make it easy to find, and using the Dark Visor helped figure out where exactly it was. I think Prime 2 was my first Metroid game that I beat without asking for, or looking up, help.

[@MarinLeaf]

The dark beam's charge attack can freeze 90% of enemies allowing you to one shot them afterwards with a missile. Light beam takes care of the Ing, does massive damage to bosses, and can increase the power of light crystal's fields to where they instantly kill any dark enemies that touch them. They're pretty important for combat actually. Dark Commandos get fucked with the dark beam charge missile combo by the way. In general the Dark beam is overpowered and it's super combo can destroy dark samus the second time around.

[@patyos2]

Echoes is the best Prime game ever =D !!

[@Faapu]

I had a friend who owned this game, and we played the multiplayer all the time. For some reason.

[@twosalt4621]

*METROID METROID METROID METROID METROID!* but can metroid crawl?

[@megafan1137]

NO

[@endercraftinc.5927]

GD NightmareJames jellyfish is helping yes

[@wolf0s617]

In the one section in fusion... there's that.

[@RetroMike1324]

your mom

[@endercraftinc.5927]

Fleetway Sonic metroid didnt crawl that was his girlfriend

[@Duke_of_Petchington]

I know I'm late to the party, but the "Zombies" at the Beginning in the command centre, weren't zombies. The Ing have the ability to parasitically take over any living creature, they look for potential species with credible Lethality and strength. for example the Space pirate and the predators of Aether. they'd seen the marines, the gear and weapons they have (do to there effectiveness against the Splinters and their hive) and thought we need this in our horde. but because the things they were trying to take over were already dead, the Ing couldn't achieve full parasitic take over and use the host body correctly.

[@TheManOfIdeas]

Love the game so much. This tore my heart

[@D1ab0lical]

Don't see how 2 is considered the black sheep when some consider it better than Prime 1. And I often believe that Prime 3 is the black sheep.

[@jjc4924]

Prime 3 isn't the black sheep.

[@Cowmoo83]

Shouldn't the game be dull and gloomy? It's about a planet at war with itself in its darkest days.

[@firstmategiddy]

This is a dumb argument. I know it's a couple of years ago, but many Nintendo games have dark background stories, and it's still interesting scenery, like Fire Emblem or Zelda.

[@firstmategiddy]

Or hell, even other Metroid games.

[@jamesmorseman3180]

@@firstmategiddy Breath of the Wild nor any of the Fire Emblem games are no where near as dark and bleak as Echoes

[@ungalewxd]

@@firstmategiddy I don't think that Zelda is as dark as Echoes... echoes talks about a planet that's about to die, as well as a race that is about to get extinguished. The game is obviously dark.

[@ceeb420]

the theme song for Prime 2 is so fuckin goooood

[@denniso4405]

I really have never been able to agree with the opinion that the first game's world was better. I remember thinking even as a young teen playing these games that the atmosphere of Echos made the entire world a lot more believable, and thus more immersive. I remember loving how dark and serious this adventure was. The first game felt a bit too much like a bunch of separate places all stitched together with... elevators... into one world because... hey, it's a video game kids. I had a problem with Metroid games in general coming across as too unbelievable. Another example of this is the conveniently placed power ups and the order you just so happen to be able to find them in. So I'm on a PLANET and everything I need just happens to be relatively close by? Echoes came across as overall LESS cheesy and that helped me to prefer it over Prime 1.

[@Bisalina5]

The whole ammunition thing was very much needed with the strength of the beams. A fully charged Darkbeam is the most OP weapon against every non-boss enemy in this game because it could one shot most of the enemies (sometimes a missile was needed), does permadamage, stopped teleportation could stop ships and did everything what the Super Missile couldn´t do with his ehh hitbox. And the lightbeam was pretty much OP against every Boss (besides Alpha-Blogg) in this game because the fastes strats mostly involve to use the light beam.

[@samtemdo8]

"Agon Wastes blends in together with the Torvus Bog" Ones a sandy desert, and the other is a watery swamp. No they do not blend together.

[@ArcaneHazeOfficial]

IKR. I thought he was gonna compare temple grounds to Agon wastes. That would have been way more understandable because torvus and agon don’t resemble each other in the slightest

[@Benjicoffee]

I think we can all agree 1 and 2 are both better than 3.

[@TheGoldenBolt]

When do we get Metroid Prime 3 & Knuckles?

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

9:11 Not with the Light Beam they don't. lol

[@gayluigi6495]

Metroid Prime Trilogy HD on Switch would be a nerdgasm for me.

[@somethingidk7355]

It could happen with Prime 4 coming and stuff.

[@GatorRay]

+GreenMario Nintendo dying would be a nerdgasm for Haedox (Note that I'm being sarcastic)

[@shinoburaiu]

Oh god.... I'm already doing a all difficulty run on all three games on trilogy on my WiiU....... I don't want to do that again on the Switch... But then again it will look amazing.

[@Fixional]

Hahaha good one

[@hauntedheathen2732]

Metroid Prime 2 is my favorite from the Prime games because of the tone, atmosphere, and soundtrack. Its really damn bleak and makes you feel isolated. Still kinda gives me weird feels when im sitting alone playing it on the gamecube.

[@Superstupidy]

Decent video. I hate to compare creators, but I'd recommend taking a look at "TheGeekCritique"s Prime 2 review if you'd like a second oppinion. His video very accurately describes why Metroid Prime 2 is my favorite game of all time. Also, AntDude needs to experiment with the dark beam more. A lot of the enemies he was complaining about can be dispatched in a few seconds.

[@John-bj1zx]

I think the Dark and light beams have ammo because they're originally not Chozo designed weapons and when used by the Luminoth they have ammo as well, along with the Luminoth's default weapons(Whatever they may be), apparently the default weapons are Shotgun style ammo as seen by a scan log of one of the Keybearer's stating they ran out of/ran low on Slugs. The real good Metroid Lore is on the Wikitroid website, I spent hours reading info on Samus, the other races, and the equipment, weapons, and monsters of the Metroid universe.

[@GenmaTheSamurai]

I've seen so many people complain about the dark commandos when they go down easy if you know what to do. Dark beam and then missiles. Boom dead Dark Commando. Yeah I know it sounds weird using dark beam on a dark enemy, but I can make the argument that its about paying attention to the beam properties. It being the ice beam basically.

[@Fixional]

With the dark pirate elites you can just freeze them with a charged dark shot then missile. And with the power bomb guardian if you go all the way to the end of the track, hang over it then boost to launch to the other spiderball track

[@kirbystarwarior]

10:01 "Dark Sa-moose" Antdude...are you *trying* to get people to constantly point out your mistakes?

[@kirbystarwarior]

11:57 "Dark Moose" Ok yeah, this is definitley intentional, lol.

[@TheSefirosu200x]

Almost this entire video seems engineered to get people to point out mistakes.

[@NicoleMay316]

12:45 okay that's a funny bit that caught me off guard. Well done.

[@PortibleCharger]

Ha! The metroid is on kerby's head! Like that one level in kerby where you fight metroids and samus shows up... you know. That one...

[@ReconVelocity]

Johnny Cashh yea....poor puffball

[@scroogemcfyuck8110]

"Kerby."

[@roxsys358]

Makoto Naegi Lol

[@Soundwave04]

One thing people bring up is how Samus saying goodbye to the Luminoth is a heartwarming moment, showing her humanity. I don't know, the way she doesn't look back at them and just raises her hand seems less like a genuine farewell and more a "kthx bai"

[@natewazinski3585]

How does Samus fit into the ball? Yoga?

[@dontbealarmbeitsjustharamb6717]

Official Fourth Edge extreme yoga

[@Wheaty03]

Official Fourth Edge watch the game theory on it

[@link_legend819]

Hayden Wheatley, the game theory forgot to take Samus's power suit into account. Watch the knoggin on it.

[@natewazinski3585]

Hayden Wheatley I have, but they forgot the power suit and I think it's time to redo that episode.

[@taylord5381]

is it mythical based or technology based? if it's the latter than Samus is either incredibly cramped up in this form or is a god of yoga. then again, i'm probably reading too deep into this -Johnny

[@MHb_CCCLXV]

Poor Aether. The plains of Agon became a wasteland. The lush forest of Torvus became a toxic swamp. That meteor caused so much damage. A once beautiful planet was left in ruin and in a dimensional flux.

[@wyatt3968]

Echoes echoes echoes

[@TheSefirosu200x]

What a shock, a multiplayer mode isn't any good. What's next, water is wet? The sky is blue? The Earth is an oblate spheroid?

[@josecardenas2902]

I revisited both Prime 1 and 2 some time ago, and I realized how annoying backtracking was in Prime 1. Prime 2 is much better designed, everything is just better connected. Feels a bit videogamy but it makes replays just better than Prime 1.

[@williamdavis7431]

Enemies are actually pretty easy if you use the light and dark beams

[@kingpiniv]

I feel you on the temple grounds, agon wastes and torvus bog. I found those areas to be pretty boring. Sanctuary Fortress however, is my favorite area in the trilogy. I love the idea of the Luminoth being advanced enough to utilize and build that kind of technology that eventually becomes corrupted. I think Prime 1 is the better overall game due to it being consistently great throughout. I feel Prime 2 has higher highs (Sanctuary Fortress, the light suit looking badass and some of the best boss battles in the series like Quadraxis and the Dark Samus battles) and also some of the lowest lows (backtracking at its worst in the series, some boring and tedious areas, some frustrating boss fights like the boost and spider guardians and waiting for health to regen in the dark world). Prime 2 is a game that gets better the more playthroughs you do. Learning your way around cuts out a lot of frustration

[@din_5817]

I like where you put your metroid figurine, that Kirby looks like he's suffering

[@soulripper31]

Dark Pirate Commandos take forever to kill? Just shoot a charged dark beam shot and shatter them with a missile.. They're so easy to get rid off. Also you only need to backtrack twice in this game: once for the seeker missiles upgrade and once for the key fetch quest near the end of the game (which I completed in less than an hour without a guide). It's not the game's fault that you don't know how to play it. Prime 2 also has a far better (back-)story than the first game. Lastly, Sanctuary Fortress is easily the most visually pleasing area in the Prime Trilogy. Much better than the bland areas of the first game.

[@jjc4924]

It's called opinions. Everyone has an opinion. Now granted, there are some things about Prime 2 that I like, but there also some thing that I don't like about Prime 2. Everyone has an opinion.

[@GiraffeBlood]

JJ C opinions can be misinformed. They can also be changed with new information. Him saying the enemies take too long to kill is an opinion, but it is misinformed because they aren’t.

[@Fixional]

Soulripper31 You also need to back track for power bombs but your point still stands

[@Irish_Enderman]

1:30 Kirby in the background with the metroid off center is so funny LOL

[@drekiskrek5008]

I... Like Federation Force.....

[@sirlotl3442]

In the background, kirby is having his life force sucked out :/

[@gayluigi6495]

11:00 Metroid Prime 3 video teaser?

[@barbdreves2991]

I like that you put the metroid on Kirby's head.

[@aperson6505]

Metroid Prime 3 is the odd one out, if you ask me. The structure and gameplay are fairly different to the first two. I really like MP2.

[@MLGninja101]

I don't know why but this is one of my favorite games of all time

[@oobles6902]

Too bad I don't have a GameCube controller. Like I have a system and games but my controllers are gone. Fun.

[@ReconVelocity]

Dont'cha just love it when you have everything but you don't have the main thing to play the other thing... Yes?

[@fungusonus]

it probably wouldn't cost that much to buy one on amazon, or at the gamestop online store

[@Jojje4567]

The problem i had with Dark Aether is that it slows the game's pace down. I love that the whole dimension invokes a sense of fear and danger which helps the game's atmosphere, but in practice it becomes boring to have to run for the nearest safe space and wait several seconds for your health to recharge. Granted, it's really only a problem during the first time visiting Agon Wastes as the Dark Suit reduces the amount of damage you take from Dark Aether, which does remedy the problem somewhat.

[@bootortle]

oh hey the best one

[@patyos2]

@ReasonableRam You misspelled, "Prime 1 is far shittier. "

[@alistair4909]

how you both managed to misspell federation force with numbers is beyond me. You must be trolling.

[@nt45dev]

Did anyone else notice the dark antic light beams are recolored ice and plasma beams in the respective order? Dark freezes enemies whilst light ignites them.

[@MemeDealer69]

6 views 22 comments all by different people illuminaliti confirmed

[@christianventura4318]

Honestly, your videos are amazing, despite the criticism from viewers. Metroid Prime 2 is still my favorite of the three, regardless, because the challenges make them fun. And..."Dark Samoose?" That had me rolling. 😂