Metroid Prime: An Exciting Evolution

On the cusp of Metroid's 30th Anniversary, I try my hand at the first 3D Metroid title: Metroid Prime! Can it live up to the legacy of Super Metroid?
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[@IronyNinja]

About the re-use of areas, you have to understand the huge gap in time frame from super metroid to metroid prime. It was a complete surprise when it was announced, it had been like 9 years. People WANTED a return to familiar metroid-style environments, and as the studio was mostly untried it isn't surprising that they played it safe. Playing these games back to back nearly like you are, I can definitely see why you bring this up though. But you gotta see it through it's historical context at the time.

[@toamatoro570]

Also, despite the similarities, I think the re-used levels give off different feels. For example, the Wrecked Ship from Super Metroid is downright creepy and threatening, what with ghosts being everywhere, while the Crashed Frigate from Prime feels much more mellow and melancholy due to the soft colors and music.

[@kenichi-bk6bz]

Raptor Jesus k

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

At least the second and third branched out, because Retro Studios was more confident in working on it.

[@Nyzer_]

It also helped make the transition from 2D to 3D smoother. Metroid trying out the FPS genre is already a big shift, so an attempt to keep it covering familiar ground isn't a bad thing. I'm not one to criticize a game for being too similar. Frankly, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing until it becomes a recurring issue, like with the Pokémon series where it seems they can't change up ANY of the themes to save their lives. That's doubly true when a series has gone untouched for a length of time. Fusion and Prime were the first new games in an entire console generation, and each of them kept a lot of elements from Super, but broke away in opposite directions.

[@servancastillo986]

took the words out of my mouth, this this is exactly their intent, it's obvious down to the music too, and it's awesome.

[@EXHellfire]

dude my subwoofers are having a field trip with your baritone

[@RizzyTizzyLando]

Lmao

[@dragonroot2616]

Lmao

[@micahblakeslee]

I like your no-nonsense approach to game analysis. There are no stupid skits or forced humor - just you and the game. It's refreshing and really interesting!

[@gundamsdm]

Micah Blakeslee, Tell me about it! Ever since Red Letter Media's Mr. Plinkett Star Wars Prequels reviews, every other KZbinr likes constantly interrupting their long-form reviews with random "funny" sketches. And most of them think they're far funnier than they really are...

[@littenfire3563]

I agree. I hate that everyone now is trying to be some silly actor on youtube. Just make the video. My reviews are in this style too. I make jokes too but they're more to mock certain aspects of a game, or the game's story

[@Diwasho]

He reminds me of Mark Brown, they have the same style of on-point analysis. Though Mark provides more charts and graphs.

[@phillipgallant2931]

Hear, hear!

[@smithydavis1033]

@@calmarsden8692 So why are you here? That's hypocritical

[@UmbreonMessiah]

I'm sorry, but even watching this again ages later, my main complaint about this retrospective is both you, TheGeekCritique and several other KZbinrs seeming lack of understanding of the multiple shortcuts that exist in Metroid Prime. You complain about having to SLOWLY travel back to your ship from Phendrana....but from the exit to Phendrana in Magmoor, you're 3 or so rooms away from an elevator that leads you almost *immediately* back to the Overworld, a mere jog from your ship. When you beat Thaardus, there's a spider ball track that leads to an elevator that not only takes you back to the far end of Magmoor (which you can use to get some power ups), but which ultimately leads to *THE SAME ELEVATOR* which you can then use to get to the Chozo Ruins. Each of your group of friends that has looked at this game have *conveniently* ignored or missed these shortcuts, and it's infuriating to watch you complain about the backtracking in the game when this is just *one* of the shortcuts. It's ironic; you claim to know Magmoor Caverns like the back of your hand, but you don't seem to know about this place? What's going on here?

[@imperfect_dan7519]

@@TheGunFreak94 that's not fucking funny. You think autism is a joke

[@VGProtagonist]

I'm actually gonna have to give that to you. There are a ton of shortcuts; I just don't think he thought to use them.

[@JaxonElzinga]

Fanboy much? Lol

[@imperfect_dan7519]

@@JaxonElzinga he's just stating the truth

[@SoulsOfWisdom]

Being a huge fan of this game and a person who does take this shortcut every time I play. The very fact that most critics seem to miss it (and I remember missing the point on my very first playthrough) tells me that there is a disconnect in the design responsible for communicating this to the player. It's still a flaw in some regards.

[@alexanderperry7375]

I think that backtracking is far more than a staple in Prime. The majority of the optional upgrades such as missile expansions were hidden as to be collected during backtracking, in an old area, but when you have new upgrades. When ever I had to backtrack, I usually went in with the mindset of "Oh boy I have all these new upgrades, so I need to be on the look out for places to use them!" Generally, I was not disappointed, although I can agree that traversing Magmore caverns did get quite tedious by the end of the game and the Phazon Mines shattered the difficulty curve. As far as the artifacts of Spirit and Elder go, I've never understood how people had trouble with them. I mean, lets look at the hints: The Artifact of Spirit: "A tall cave stands at Phendrana's Edge. Seek the unseen entrance at its top to find the Artifact of Spirit." If you look at the map, "Phendrana's Edge" is the name of the room it's located in, the room is on the edge of the map, it's elongated, as hinted at by "tall," and if "unseen" doesn't scream X-RAY VISOR, then I don't know what would. They even go as far as to tell you it's at the top. The Artifact of Elder: "Invaders have claimed Phendrana as their own. A Tower sits atop their fortress. Collapse it to reveal the chamber where the Artifact of Elder is held." It's in Phendrana, which excludes the Phazon Mines from the hunt. The three rooms surrounding the artifact are called "East Tower," "Control Tower," and "West Tower." From there, the tower is clearly visible, and collapsing it should only take a matter of time with the scan visor. These cases along with the artifact hunt in general help to illustrate the game's focus on exploration and observation. As you gain upgrades, the way you look at the world changes, and for a game as immersive as Prime, re-exploring the world is worth every moment. When I played through the game, I found all but 3 of the artifacts before the end of the Phazon Mines, so fetching the last few didn't take that long and, consequently, didn't feel like much of a chore to me. Amazing review. I greatly anticipate your look at Prime 2.

[@CobalionRider]

I'm not sure if anyone else had this issue, but where I got stuck with the Artifact of spirit was reading the hint too literally. There are a couple of little alcoves at the top where I assumed I'd have to look. The correct room is a couple levels below the top, where I hadn't even thought to check my Xray visor. It was admittedly a silly mistake, but it was one of the few places in my first playthrough where I felt the need to check online.

[@davisbreci5332]

The more logical conclusion to the tower hint is that the player would have to destroy the tower they were already on, since it is literary called east and west tower, not destroy a completely different tower that looks like a random background detail.

[@TheExFatal]

I beat the game yesterday, and those hints are not exactly helpful for those two areas. Both times I got the locations right, but how was I supposed to know to juml inside one of the towers, destroy some boxes, look in a tiny window and shoot a rocket? It's cryptic. The Edge one isn't that bad, but it tells you that there's a secret entrance *at the top* of the location, but it's not there, it's somewhere at the center.

[@BMW-sd6nn]

Exactly. Backtracking is one of the best parts of the game. Going through to get all the artifacts fully powered up destroying enemies with the plasma beam and getting all these upgrades you could before, its perfect and without to artifact hunt the pacing would be way off with Omega, then ridley, then prime. Let's you soak it in one more time and go on a powertrip.

[@Tiana_atr]

So i'm going to have to take some exception to your complaint on having to backtrack for the space jump boots. Replaying the game i found it is suprisingly good at leading you to where you need to go next, including with the space jump boots. When you get the boost ball you head back to Phendrana's hub. There you see ridley fly overhead in the direction of the magmoor cavern's elevator. Not necessarily the best way to show where to go, but it does give you direction so you leave phendrana. Once back in Magmoor caverns, if you keep going east instead of backtracking through the entire caves and chozo ruins you'll find an elevator to the Tallon Overworld. Just follow the path and you'll end up right in the room with the ramp to the space jump boots. If you backtracked through the entirety of magmoor and chozo ruins, it would take 17 rooms to get to the halfpipe. If you went east to the next part of magmoor it would've taken just 10 much smaller rooms than the other direction. If you want to complain about bad backtracking, try the Phendrana Labs after getting the thermal visor. You have to go back through the entire area you literally just went through unchanged except now everything is dark so you use the thermal visor and there's a few metroids that you actually need to actively let out of their cages to fight most of them. There should've been a 2nd faster path that went around the labs that would lead to the boss. Hell the pirate logs say wildlife is getting into the labs through underground tunnels so why not have you go through dark underground tunnels that only wildlife uses that would lead you to the Thardus room that you'll end up in as soon as you backtrack through the labs anyway. That way you avoid backtracking, still force using the thermal visor and even have a lore reason to why this path exists.

[@breadman578]

Revisiting this video because of Dread. When I played Metroid Prime on the Wii, I also thought the initial super missile input was cumbersome. Then I realized in the settings you could switch A and B. That way shooting feels like an actual gun, and also makes super missile inputs a hell of a lot easier. Which is nice because super missiles are godly powerful in this game.

[@Metroid4ever]

Heheheh, nothing more satisfying than screw attacking into enemies in Echoes and Corruption. It takes skill, but it's fun.

[@ethanvania3630]

I definitely agree.

[@MHb-DCLXVI]

I second that. Fun and satisfying.

[@bakubread9308]

I love how while he's describing how wall jump/screw attack would work in 3D he's literally just describing Prime 2 point for point, yet never mentions the game itself.

[@Bricksandgamesstudio]

"It can feel a little samey" I get that the biomes are identical, but the reality is that this sequel came ten years after super metroid. Playing them right next to each other is the only reason you noticed. The devs wanted to bring those classic areas to life. Prime 2 and 3 fix that issue anyway

[@fredjones2170]

AJ Honestly, the areas of Super felt MORE samey than Prime’s to me.

[@tonysanchez5621]

I feel like they did that on purpose. If you play the old game and liked it they wanted you to now fully experience it

[@jacobmonks3722]

@@fredjones2170 Well, in Super Metroid you are literally revisiting the same planet from Metroid 1. The level design is supposed to be the same in some spots, but it is very very different for the other 85 percent of the game.

[@Jdudec367]

honestly a issue I've heard with two is the locations feeling very samey [though sanctuary fortress is awesome]

[@lukeshioshio]

Yeah it’s weird that he complains about it when it was done on purpose.

[@fonzylopez5806]

"it can feel samey" seriously? the last thing I thought while exploring any area of metroid prime was 'wow this feels kinda like super metroid again.'

[@MastaGambit]

THIS

[@deadlyfremen7447]

I think magmoor caverns and maybe the crashed frigate are the only 2 that really remind me of Super Metroid. I don’t see that as a bad thing though, super is amazing so it’s good to be reminded of it.

[@boxhead411]

Thank you! This game made me want to play super metroid all over again

[@ShadwSonic]

Actually, the Wii port didn't add Hyper Mode, it added Normal Mode and renamed the old Normal mode as Veteran Mode. Hyper Mode was known as Hard Mode in the Gamecube version, and worked exactly the same as you described here.

[@ChibiTails]

8:15 Your notes about the Screw Attack and wall jumps are kind of interesting in hindsight. Prime 2 added both of them, but the wall jumps are restricted to predefined areas. It's primarily used for getting around instead, since Prime 2's Screw Attack also acts as a Space Jump with about half a dozen jumps at a time.

[@connorowens3707]

13:25 that's the reason why there is an option to switch the functions of the a and b buttons on the wii version

[@KingKlonoa]

I actually didn't know that you could change any of the controls.

[@AlexRN]

KingK yup. I played them with A as Jump and B as Shoot because shooting with a trigger button is the only correct choice.

[@johntaxpayer2523]

@@KingKlonoa even if you dont change the controls, its still not an issue pressing down and A at the same time, even with my tiny hands

[@johntaxpayer2523]

@ELI BONHAM super metroid just doesn't feel as good as fusion or zero mission

[@Cri_Jackal]

​​@@KingKlonoa wait a minute. All your Wii footage shows that when you lock-on to an enemy, the reticle snaps to them and stays there. That is not the default setting. By default, it functions like Prime 3, giving you free aim while locked on. Are you lying???

[@bdhost07]

Good review! Its interesting to hear a different opinion. I do have to totally disagree with you on the boss fights, especially ridley. they are long, but to me they were all about atmosphere, not just being able to plow through them and move on. I also liked the backtracking, it gave me more of a reason to fully explore everything. I'd like to hear your review of MP2, I think that's the best one IMO

[@margakis]

Brent Hostetler I agree with you mostly, but thardus was still a bitch to defeat.

[@lordaizen66]

thardus was more boring then a bitch i never have problems but he last way to long

[@dragonphoreal]

I recently finished Metroid Prime (the main story that is; only have 71% thus far). I really, really enjoyed it. Favorite GameCube game so far. I was wondering if I should try to get Metroid Prime 2: Echoes or try to 100% Metroid Prime first before trying to get Echoes. What do you think?

[@margakis]

Brandon Dozier I haven't played prime 2 myself but I've heard great things about it, and I wish I could play it myself.i say give it a try, although be warned as it's considered the hardest in the prime series.

[@superpup71]

Eh its not that its hard, it just has a rough battle here and there, the hardest boss (for me personally) was the boost ball guardian, but even then if you know some quick counters to most of its attacks it can be pretty easy. seriously though fuck the boost ball guardian, he is a real bitch to take down, especially in hard mode, although bombing him before he gets a chance to boost is his only real true weakness it really only takes a few super missiles and fully charged light beam shots in normal and a hell of a lot more in hard mode.

[@agreedboarart3188]

26:50 You probably already know this by now, but this is why you need to get the upgrades to all three of your beams. I actually really like that they give you that option. Fight Metroid Prime without them and the boss fight takes longer, or get the power ups and make the fight last a lot quicker.

[@Xirbtt]

"It's too easy" "the bosses are too easy" -remembers having a tough time as a kid and thought the game was a fun challenge- I guess difficulty is... subjective. If I play them again now-a-days they are easier, but does that make them EASY games? No, I don't think so.

[@Torinna_]

Xirbtt I’d say the controls are the biggest obstacle of the game. As a kid I never got used to them and rage quit tons of times because of it and it took me about 3 years of on and off play to beat it. Replaying it for the first time it was a lot easier then I remembered

[@talentclips74]

Maybe it’s because u were a kid. I remember playing this game when I was very little and I had a very hard time with the bosses. Picked up the game a few years later and breezed through the bosses

[@zebesiv]

I'm a grown ass man and thardus was a bitch.

[@brendangibson8200]

Prime 2 was definitely the hardest of the Trilogy. I just finished that and the morph ball sections are an absolute BITCH to play through

[@egregiousprevaricator8659]

Why what most people complain about is what I most enjoy about Prime. I like all that walking and coming back and forth from one place to another and when you get to know all the places just like in Super the item and Chozo artifacts is as quick as in its predecessor.

[@DandyDNA]

10:50 >480p 4:3 stretched to to 16:9 widescreen >hd pick one But wait, people had a problem with the Phendrana artefacts? I didn't have issue finding any of the artefacts. Great video btw, you've earned a sub. Good job for pointing out the flaws in the game, a lot of people really can't handle criticism of Metroid Prime lmao.

[@KingKlonoa]

When I was livestreaming the game people told me how horrible these two particular artifacts were. Don't really know why they're considered that bad. Also I didn't know there was a difference, but I guess I'll just stick with HD? Easier to say and people probably get what I mean.

[@DandyDNA]

KingK HD is is when you have 1080 (some say 720 but come on now that's nothing) or more horizontal lines of pixels (so 1080 pixels high) whereas 480p was the standard of a PS2 game (nowhere near being HD). Furthermore, it is stretched widescreen, so instead of being 853x480 pixels, the pixels on the vertical line are stretched which can look pretty ugly. In addition to the Wii being notorious for not even being HD, not even close.

[@KingKlonoa]

+Dandy_DNA eh. Doesn't really bother me. looks better than the GCN version imo.

[@DandyDNA]

KingK That's a bit odd since it's the same resolution but stretched.

[@Phantron]

Are you crazy? Dandy. The only stretched thing in the Wii version is the HUD. Prime 3 was 854x480, so why would Prime 1 and 2 be stretched to that? You can clearly see the view and FOV got widened for the Wii release...

[@GreatBeanicus]

The tedious slog through magmoor caverns multiple times can be sort of helped if you find the second magmoor to overworld elevator not far from the second phendrana to magmoor elevator. It does require a boss battle first, but its not terribly bad. I did find that i spent alot more time retraversing areas than i liked, but it wasnt game breaking.

[@buggs9950]

I really struggled to keep track of which lifts took you where. The amount of times I made my way right across a world only to pop out at the wrong end of the one I was trying to get to was unreal. Is that just me?

[@TomLube]

Thanks for pointing this out, it triggered the shit out of me he complained about backtracking being long but then went a way that takes easily 2x longer than the faster route.

[@johnwarosa2905]

@@buggs9950 the map exists for a reason

[@buggs9950]

@@johnwarosa2905 It's a shitty collection of maps. When going from one section to another (because of course you can only see one at a time) there's no number/symbol/whatever to associate one end of a lift with the other on a different section. I'm sure it"s no problem for most people which is why I asked if it was only me.

[@palantir4280]

@@buggs9950 exactly, it would be better if the game tells you "magmoor caverns A to phendrana drifts A" or something like that

[@danielwilliams7161]

9:00 I cannot hear the phrase "with relative ease" without immediately getting the DK rap stuck in my head.

[@TachyBunker]

In Metroid Prime 3, the screw attack plus wall jump was implemented very smoothly!

[@TachyBunker]

@YoUtUbEOFFICIALrealnotrick yep. On a second note, i want to find someone irl that knows this game, it's very hard lol, feels isolated.

[@mazardeus]

You probably know this, but the Prime games were not remastered in HD on Wii. The Wii is not HD. Just a recording mistake. No biggie. Well done. Metroid Prime is my favorite. Prime 2 is incredible! And Super Metroid is still amazing.

[@musicalmuddinto4256]

I'm playing through the metroid prime trilogy I absolutely loved prime and I'm halfway through echoes, and I'd say prime 1 is still my favourite

[@SECONDQUEST]

Then why does the phrase 720p HD exist?

[@MarviNacho]

The Wii isn't 720p. It's 480p or 576i at maximum.

[@AlexRN]

Pretty much. The Wii was only capable of 480p which is not HD. Yeah it’s crazy that in 2019 we’re still waiting for the first Metroid game in HD.

[@AlexRN]

SECONDQUEST 720p is indeed HD. The problem is that the Wii only outputs in 480p. KingK fucked up. Maybe he was getting confused with the WiiU which is indeed HD unlike the Wii.

[@brunomilocchi4979]

i prefere a lot the Prime trilogy version instead of the original titles, mostly for 2 reasons:1- it's much cheaper. 2-the controls are much more immersive. using the wiimote to move your armcannon makes you feel even more immersed in the world/samus's body, Also the fact that they made the morph ball able to jump just by shaking the wiimote like in prime 3 made the mobility with the morphball a lot more fluid, so that you don't have to stop every time to wait for the bomb to explode to jump, and can just... jump.

[@dooplon5083]

Actually, Spider ball isn't new in the slightest; it was first introduced in Metroid 2: Return of Samus all the way back in the days of the original Gameboy (fun fact: the Spring Ball and Space Jump were introduced there too ;] ), only in that game it let you attach to any wall whereas here it only works with special tracks. Naturally it's also making a reappearance in the remake, Samus Returns, as well along with its original effect. Either way, this was a pretty great review that I felt said a lot of what it needed to about the flaws and successes of this game (like the pointless backtracking for the space Jump). Great review! :]

[@PrimeYsiadGL]

Thank you so much for talking about the sequence breaking.The minor tricks aren't too hard to learn and make the game so much more lively and fun. Once you get the wave beam, you can make a series of tricky jumps to skip the spider-ball and get the ice beam in the Chozo Ruins, which you can use to get the plasma beam, even without the grapple beam if you so choose. In fact, you can actually get the grapple beam, plasma beam, power bombs, and even the X-ray visor way before Thardus. The plasma beam melts him even on Hard which makes the boss much more streamlined and fun. You can also get on a ledge with the grapple beam in his room and chill there during the fight, where he can only damage you with his destroyable little rocks, nothing else. If you even want the bosses to do more damage, you can learn how to an underwater ghetto jump to get the artifact in the Wavebuster room and open the bars to the Phazon mines from above with a well placed bomb jump. That way you can completely skip the need to collect gravity suit and the 20% damage reduction it gives you. I tried to beat Omega Pirate without the gravity suit so that when the cutscene plays, he gives it to you instead of the Phazon suit, even if its only cosmetic for that little cutscene. The fight was so hard, but in a good way, except for some minor jank regarding OP's hotboxes :))))))))))))))))))) I could seriously go on and on with this kind of stuff, because honestly, it really changes the way you play the game each and every time you do and I love it for that, which also means I'm pretty timid when it comes to the Trilogy version, knowing that I won't be able to do all these fun little tricks

[@thatssomegoodpie]

I really love the Prime series, they are probably the most immersive games I've ever played (Dark Souls comes pretty close though). Prime 3 wasn't that great though but still a good game :)

[@1122markj]

Somehow I got really immersed in Prime 3 when I played through it the first time. I would physically get really into it whenever it wanted me to use the motion controls.

[@will_of_europa]

Huzzah a fellow Prime 3 disrespecter!

[@ExoParadigmGamer]

Good review, King K. I'm in the boat that strongly prefers the Wii version, but like you, I was surprised at how simple it was to adjust to the GameCube controls. I guess it's because I played a lot of Star Fox Assault in my youth, as those two games have essentially the same control scheme. Still, the pseudo dual analog is so much better, and since I was introduced to the subseries via Prime 3, I was already used to the beam/visor switching mechanism by the time I played it. In regards to the sequence breaking, it's important to note that Super Metroid and Metroid Prime approach it differently. Much of Super's sequence breaking stems from abusing wall jumps and the occasional mach ball. My favorite thing is to get the Wave Beam by wall jumping in Norfair; I always do it every time I replay the game. In Metroid Prime, I find that most of the time it's not based around skill with advanced mechanics as much as it is trying to trigger a bunch of glitches that almost never work. For example, no matter how hard I try, I could never trigger the sequence break to get to the Phazon Mines early. I believe there's an elevator in the Chozo Ruins near the Ice Beam that takes you to the entrance of the mines, but there's a gate in the way that you can only open from the Wrecked Frigate side with a boost ball slot. Supposedly, you can use morph ball bombs to glitch through the gate and access the mines early, but I couldn't get it to work no matter how hard I tried. You can also sequence brake by jumping on an obscenely small platforms to cheese your way up to the higher ledge in the morphball room, but that's almost impossible. Point is, in the time it takes you to look up how to do all of this stuff and actually get it to work, you could have just played the game the normal way and done it much faster. Sequence breaking in Metroid Prime isn't as fun or satisfying because of how obtuse and cumbersome it is. Plus, whenever I replay these games, it's always a 100% playthrough, and it's simpler to plan your route when you stick to the game's intended order. That being said, I absolutely agree with your assessment of the backtracking. It's been in every game, but in my opinion, it is at it's absolute worst here. I can get from Ridley's Lair to Tourian in just a few minutes, but getting from Phendrana to Tallon Overworld always takes forever. It's because the game tries to disguise load times using protracted set pieces. You know that room in Magmoor with all those little elevators on the walls that you have to wait for? All those little s-shaped hallways? All of those set pieces are designed to give the game more time to load the bigger rooms on either side, and it does a number on the game's pacing. I will never understand how people could think Echoes has it worse; that is simply a wrong opinion, and I don't say that about a lot of things. The more modular structure of Aether in itself greatly improves on the backtracking of the first game. Anyway, enough rambling. Glad you're getting into the series.

[@KingKlonoa]

I will concede it's much harder to sequence break. I could only really do the space jump boots early trick. That being said it's still disheartening for the people that actually can pull it off and play the game a different way as a result. That's why I made it a point to criticize Retro's decision to remove it, since it had eliminated a lot of the tedious backtracking for a lot of people. It's also very important in the speed running community, no doubt, who now has to track down the original release to pull off faithful glitches. The point of my argument was that there was no reason to remove the sequence breaks, even if they were harder to perform. There were definitely people that found enjoyment, just as I did when I got the space jump boots early. Thanks btw. Took me way too long to finish. Gonna play the Metroid 2 remake soon because I'm very interested. Also need to play Other M hah

[@brunomilocchi4979]

KingK in the trilogy version it's impossible to get those boots early since the scanner works a tiny bit different.

[@s.a.m.2300]

ExoParadigmGamer I still haven't finished this game. you'd think that on the GameCube they would adopt the camera control function of other first person shooters, but sadly no. for that reason I cannot get through certain areas or boss fights because I couldn't quite get around the whole 'hold Z and aim' while I cannot move, and yet have to dodge being fired upon. I eventually gave up and that was years ago. I do plan to pick it up again tho. I just didn't have the patience back then

[@brunomilocchi4979]

Drax try the trilogy version, the controls work much better

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Basically, the sequence break in prime was completely unintentionnal.

[@kidkoopa6389]

The Prime soundtrack is undeniably one of the greatest ever created!!!

[@Banditt_Red]

I just played Metroid dread and now I’m falling down the Metroid rabbit hole. I love these games

[@giorgiomx]

I played Metroid Prime(trilogy) for first time 1 year a go, it is great, I've only played NES Metroid and Super Metroid back in the day. I turned off "hints" to feel more lost like in Super Metroid, I also turned off "Aim-lock" but this one was a bit of an unnecessary difficulty as I suppose the game is considering you're using "auto-lock". I also beat Metroid Prime 2 like a couple of months a go, this one "is only" for Metroid Fans or at least not as a first metroid game, because is too dense in its Metroid formula, very tedious in some parts which I think only Metroid fans will tolerate or not care(like me)

[@nillynush4899]

Prime 4 hype.

[@screamsintothevoid9968]

Yeah I didn't like Prime 2 either

[@giorgiomx]

@@screamsintothevoid9968 I do like MP2, es my favorite of the trilogy because of its density and convoluted content XD

[@pie1056]

Artifacts were implemented to solve a problem that is hard to see with their inclusion. I believe Retro talked about it after Metroid Prime 2 was released, a game that had an arguably worse and longer back tracking segment at the end of the game. Without the artifact quest, many late game upgrades don't see a lot of use and the argument comes up that it feels bad to get this kickass plasma beam or x-ray visor and not have a lot of use for them. With the artifact quest it feels like unnecessary padding and back tracking but at least you get to enjoy using all the upgrades the game has to offer. The artifacts in Prime are usually argued to be better than the keys in Prime 2 because you can get more of the artifacts before you reach that segment of the game, saving on some back tracking.

[@MastaGambit]

I understand it, but it's a cheap attempt at padding. The ACTUAL problem at play here is closing off the main quest of the game too early after the final two powerups. And maybe this is a problem caused by not having enough development time, but a far better solution would be to, e.g. in Prime 1, not opening Phazon Mines at all until you have ALL the powerups, instead of opening it up like ~65% of the way through. Maybe actually make a region boss for Magmoor Caverns and have that be the source of Power Bombs instead. That way Phazon Mines would actually feel like a final area of sorts, where you use all the tools that the game gave you in one massive, three-tiered gauntlet. Then the impact crater key is located in some sort of top secret lab room behind the Omega Pirate. Or hell, maybe even Ridley swoops in and steals it in front of you before flying up to the Chozo Temple and you have to chase after him; that would also give more of a reason to fight him and that boss battle wouldn't be so all of sudden and out of nowhere. Of course as we know, Prime 1 *was* rushed in some respects.

[@feidomanifestive4339]

One thing to counter on the backtracking. There are lots of optional upgrades placed between required points, which decreases the actual time between points of interest and increases general engagement. That's not to say it's never a slog, but there's definitely enough to do to make most sections of the game interesting.

[@joewalsh1159]

Of all ports that might come to the Switch, Metroid Prime Trilogy would be the absolute best. The games still look great - Retro did such a great job in the art direction - and would benefit from dual analog control.

[@Applemangh]

I've got to mention that a TON of Super Metroid's sequence breaks (maybe most of them) are not glitch based at all, they're skill and knowledge based. The game very intentionally gives you tools to sequence break, knowing that you might choose to do it, and the devs may not have even been aware of just how many completely glitchless sequence breaks player could pull off. Metroid Prime is a completely different by design. The only sequence breaks it ever had were because of glitches. New releases shouldn't have just removed the glitches, they should have replaced them with legitimate, clever, and difficult sequence breaks. Like maybe the springball combined with perfectly timed bomb jumps is the only way to get you just enough height to reach a newly added ledge that leads to the early space jump boots.

It's probably been pointed out to you multiple times by now, and it's a minor nitpick, but I don't see anyone mentioning it in the top comments so let me just be THAT guy for a moment. You mention multiple times that the Wii remasters of Metroid Prime 1 & 2 are in "HD and widescreen", but the Wii does not output at HD resolution. The resolution supported by the Wii are essentially the same as the ones supported by the Gamecube, just with better widescreen support (if I remember that part correctly). Nintendo only started introducing HD capabilities into their consoles with the WiiU, and even now on the Switch, a lot of their games are not natively running in the full HD resolution of 1920x1080. This is a minor mistake, but I just felt the need to point it out because it turns up multiple times. Anyways, love your channel and your retrospective projects, keep being awesome!

[@TheSpeedfoever]

Now that Metroid Prime Remastered has dropped, hope that 2 and 3 get the same treatment as well since Retro and 8 other studios have helped as well! If thats what 4 will look like too it will be worth the wait! Also hoping that 2 will be this year and maybe 3 is next year!

[@navamakes]

Awesome video! Loved your comparisons to Super Metroid. Also I'm not sure if you knew this, but the Spider Ball upgrade comes from Metroid 2 on the Game Boy. It basically just lets you go up any wall so long as there aren't spikes in the way.

[@KingKlonoa]

Thanks! I didn't know that actually. I haven't played Metroid 1 or 2. I should probably get around to it, but I've heard they haven't aged very well so I'm just bracing myself. Might just play Metroid 2 for now since I've played through Zero Mission already.

[@navamakes]

I haven't played Metroid 1, but 2 can get pretty monotonous. I wouldn't consider it a bad game though. It's available on the 3DS eShop if you want to try it out!

[@gilbertberger7234]

The level design for 1 and 2 for me were the biggest flaws of those titles. Which is a reason why I think most Metroid fans herald it as one of the best in the franchise as you could easily tell apart each area of Zebes. And if you dislike having lore being shoved down your throat & having your handheld in terms if where to go & what to do then Other M probably won't be very fun because it takes what Fusion did and mulitiplies it. Even for all the flaws every title prior to Other M has, at least they don't tell you a weapon isn't usable until Adam authorizes it. For me it's a lot more satisifying of an experience finding an upgrade on my own and exploring news areas than it is knowing an upgrade is already there but you can't use because some guy watching from afar says you can't use it yet.

[@gilbertberger7234]

And by heralding I mean Super Metroid. On related note, Yoshio Sakimoto says the Prime series isn't cannon in the Metroidverse. I don't know if that sort of thing matters to you, but he says those games didn't happen. In my opinion he's just a little resentful because a lot of people like the Prime trilogy more than they do Fusion and Other M.

[@rickyricardo9710]

Also the screw attack and wall jump appear in Prime 2

[@Elfos64]

I really liked the bosses if Prime 1. First, they taught you how to use basic tools of the game. Parasite Queen taught you that sometimes you need to scan things before you can properly lock on to their weak point and to strafe, Wasp Hive teaches you to use RADAR, Plated Beetle teaches you dodging and quick reaction time to hit weak point, etc. But then later bosses take away your crutches. Thardus can't be locked on to normally, Elite Pirates have a window of when they're invulnerable to beam weapons and so you can't just spam-shoot them like you might be used to, Omega Pirate has a specific distance you have to keep from him to avoid getting hit by his cannons or melee attacks and you can't just focus on him the whole time because he summons swarms during his vulnerable stages and you have to worry more about resource management to break his armor plates and deal damage during his vulnerable stages efficiently, etc. Thardus's rolling form is pretty easy to dodge in bipedal mode, and his weakpoints aren't that hard to deal a lot of damage to quickly if you know what you're doing, and his vulnerable rocks always follow the same pattern so once you know the pattern you don't even have to use the Thermal Visor.

[@ShadwSonic]

As far as people complaining about scans, it might have to do with completionist rewards, i.e. much of it is recorded in a logbook, and if you fill that logbook out you get concept art. Me, I enjoy scanning to the point where I couldn't imagine NOT doing it in any casual run-through, just as I couldn't imagine NOT picking up every Jiggy/Star/Pagie in a quality collectathon.

[@abeefypig]

One thing that really got me invested in prime was feeling terrified especially in the phazon mines depths where all the metroids/ space pirates terrified me the music as well just getting across was really scary with the music not helping at all

[@ladyaceina]

will you ever look at prime 2 and 3

[@KingKlonoa]

ladyaceina yes

[@ladyaceina]

cool

[@gundamsdm]

Hopefully now that Metroid Prime 4 is coming out, he'll take a look at parts 2 and 3.

[@zapzapfishes5878]

I think the biomes being close to each other make some amount of sense: + Overworld is part lush, part dying from the phazon. I've heard some refer to it as a "jungle", and maybe it was that at some point, but it definitely isn't at the time it's explored in the game. It's green yes, but there are not a lot of trees or biodiversity present if you take a closer look. The canopies are very sparse, some of the trees are even without folliage and many of the branches seem to twist very unnaturally. It seems like a dying ecosystem, which is exactly what it is. + Chozo Ruins is at a further progression of poisoning, making it seem more of a desert even if it's located right next to the Overworld. They even share some of the plant life, with the giant red acer leaves being prominent in both areas. + Magmoor Caverns is volcanic, so perhaps there is an active volcano nearby. I think it would have made more sense if the caverns were just deep underground, but some of the rooms seem to be open sky. + Phendrana is at a much higher altitude, in mountanous glaciers. Maybe related to the volcanic activity? + Phazon Mines is obviously desolate because of the heavy poison pollution. What annoyed me more is how confusing the overworld map seems to be regarding where the areas are located relative to each other. All of the elevators seem to be strictly vertical, so how are the areas placed horisontally next to each other? Seeing how tall the shafts seem to be, how is the Chozo Ruins not visible high up from Tallon Overworld? And the way elevators are connected also don't match between areas.

[@samchase6273]

King. Its time.

[@froakie1404]

Tbh the use of backtracking in this game never really bothered me because I always knew when I was going back to a previous area I knew I was going to find a new upgrade or room in the area that I’ve never seen before and I would get excited on my way to the next destination on what upgrade I would get. Tbh though it was pretty annoying to backtrack across the entire map to find like 2 rooms and get a power up but there’s enough shortcuts for that in my opinion

[@zyad48]

To be fair about Thardus, as an experienced player myself, he's actually not that hard or even that time consuming at all :p To be fair about _that_ though, I also know a few obscure tricks that the game doesn't tell you about, one is intentionally left up to the player to figure out, and two that seem unintentional: If you get good with doing certain item skips, you can get the Plasma Beam before even ever fighting Thardus, oddly enough, he's weak to the Plasma Beam, taking a ridiculous amount of damage from Plasma charge shots, a single plasma charge shot will knock out a weak point in a single hit, not to mention since the plasma charge shot is the fastest projectile in the game, it's very easy to hit with. The other trick that I think is unintentional is how, when he goes into his ball form, you can drop a few morph ball bombs as he rolls towards you, oddly enough, this reveals the weak points 100% of the time, meaning you can technically defeat him without ever picking up the thermal visor The third trick which is intentional, although up to the player to find out, is how super missiles kill his weak points in one hit, just like the charged plasma shots, which means, if you want an easier time with the fight, without needing to go out of your way to get good with item skips to get the plasma beam super early, what you can do is instead stock up on as many missiles as you can, and when you go into the fight, ignore the thermal visor and simply drop bombs whenever he rolls, which usually happens right after one of his weak points are destroyed. Obviously this is only stuff I know because I've played this game for a good 10+ years, the newer player is going to have a challenging time like you mention. I am curious though, where did you get your information about how skilled Prime players take upwards of 10 minutes to beat Thardus? At least in my playthroughs, he seems to take around 4-5, maybe 7 minutes if I'm just messing around or just not on point that day. Also a bit of trivia on Ridley, if you boost ball into him, he takes a massive crapload of damage(about a good two-thirds of his health bar). Why? No clue, I assume this is a glitch although I'd have to wonder what exactly causes the game to glitch out and make him take _that_ much damage. And... one more thing, I'm going to assume you got really lucky with Metroid Prime phase 2, because that fight can literally take forever, as far as I'm aware, there's no code in the game that tells Prime "Hey, you have to put down phazon and shit metroids now so the fight can progress" I'm a skilled Prime player, but I've had that fight last up to 30 minutes since it's literally random when he'll decide to shit phazon and let the fight continue.

[@emmywillow6599]

I’ve found switching A to jump and B to shoot really helps. Makes Super Missiles a lot easier, also it just makes more sense to make shoot a trigger instead of a button.

[@Haxxer82]

"The bosses are to easy." Omega Pirate: Am I a joke to you?

[@Jamandabop]

I completely forgot that the default controls on Wii don't have you use A to jump and B to shoot. It's so much better that I can't believe they would do it the other way.

[@FantasyJared]

Even this far back, your videos are still so high quality! I'm sure this is nothing you've never heard before, but you have the most relaxing voice ever - all your videos are a treat, King. Stay safe, brother! ^^

[@rancor76]

Watching this video again after beating this game merely half an hour ago. Love your videos man, can't wait to beat Echoes and then watch your retrospecrive of that.

[@_-KR-_]

this is pretty much the best video game of all time. Its absorbing, immersive, breathtakingly beautiful, and absolutely devastating when contemplating the lore. I still cant choose between Super Metroid and Prime.. Also a master class in diagetics.

[@BMW-sd6nn]

Seriously, prime probably has the best Ridley fight imo I heavily disagree with his take on that.

[@JoshValdez1996]

I saw an interview the other day where an ex Retro dev mentioned that they actually saw the Prime series as a reboot and it was only later that Nintendo actually confirmed to them that “no it’s canon, there’s no reason it can’t be” lol. But that’s why the biomes are all pretty much copy-pasted from Metroid Prime. It was also originally in third person, it was someone from Nintendo who suggested they pivot the first person, which ended up being the right choice. All fun facts that weren’t public at the time you released this. Great video, just finished replaying this game through the Switch remaster and I think that version nails the controls perfectly, finally a real twin stick Metroid Prime. Hope they do remasters of 2 and 3 as well.

[@porky1118]

I like, when you have to go everywhere again, before being able to finish the game. This gives a reason to stay longer in the world, when I already like it. But in case you want to play it many times or even speedrun it, it seems like a bad design.

[@yodersitsgrandmagood1416]

This is an old vid and it makes your voice sound like it’s trying to make me fall asleep

[@Ky-Nas]

I remember playing Metroid Prime on my Gamecube back in the day man. Good times. Hella good times.

[@CutMan567]

Fine review, it's always interesting to see other peoples grievances with my favorite game of all time, but why did you complain about the length of backtracking through Magmoor Caverns, then show you going through the slowest, most unintuitive route? Not really gonna defend the various backtracking (though being a fan for so long you grow a callous to it and honestly, it's pretty damn bad and a huge slog in Super as well), but I feel like that's just a huge misleading part of the video for the sake of a joke. I mean, this video's like a year old, so it's not a huge deal, but it just kinda lessened my enjoyment of the video

[@vaporwaverabbit3389]

Dude. DUDE. Your use of the Jeopardy theme, and the fact that the sequence you used it for was the EXACT length of the whole theme is fucking HILARIOUS. I cannot recall a more perfect usage of that instrumental in recent memory. 11/10

[@davidsterling7570]

Review's fine so far at ten minutes in, but: "Frigate OrphEON" and Trilogy wasn't an HD remaster.

[@kylemassie102]

David Sterling stfu

[@PPPPPPPP270]

As someone who played this game numerous times in my life. The backtracking parts were things I never did go through after a few playthroughs. From getting the space jump boots seconds after you land in Tallon Overworld. This opens up so many things you can do from obtaining missiles even earlier to the morph ball early. Kill Flagera faster with a weird glitch. And the sequence breaking continues albeit in unintended ways 90% of the time. If I never how to glitch the game more, I can collect most of the artifacts on the visit to that area.

[@disjointsaturn824]

Spiderball is not new, it was in metroid 2

[@lewisclark1122]

Just finished Metroid Prime Remastered on Switch. It's a really good upgrade, but Meta Ridley and that bastard ice boss still take aaaaages to beat. Those bits are more of an endurance test than anything else.

[@grantmorgan5180]

After listening to this, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Doom 2016. It's got elements that are very similar to Prime.

[@sunside79334]

i completely agree on the chozo part. the dedicated area on the planet is one of the best designed levels i've ever stumbled upon in about any video game, and the soundtrack was nothing short but epic.

[@OliyTC]

I had no idea you made a retrospective on this series and it showed up in my recommended right after I beat Prime 3. I guess this is my next two hours.

[@Jayrod64]

I actually love the bosses in Metroid Prime, although that may be partially because I've gotten so good at the game that I can wipe the floor with most of them. Either way, I love the scale of each of boss, and the fact that they encourage you to use the upgrades you've recently obtained. Meta Ridley is my second favorite boss in the game, because it's a very intense battle, although I definitely think the fight gets a lot better when he's on the ground. He's just a lot more aggressive on the ground, especially in the Metroid Prime Trilogy.

[@Soulintent95]

Finally replaying this after so many yrs. At least 10. Ill never forget when i bought this game. I was so excited. Got my brothers gamecube working again, hooked it up to my upscalers and im having a blast. It is kinda rough, even upscaled, but i kind of dont mind. This was the first game i bought for just me, and had no help from my brother with. Never finished it but i got pretty far back in the day.

[@keaton3258]

I like this review, but thardus and meta ridley and any other boss took my 5 minutes max, I dont know what the hell you were doing, but it didnt take me long at all, and I loved the fights. Also, go on a harder difficulty if you want a really hard time. So I dont get your gripes against the bosses

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

No, Meta Ridley did not take you five minutes. It's literally impossible without the boost ball glicht.

[@AlexNoriega]

The screw attack and wall jump make a return in Metroid Prime 2 and Metroid Prime 3, and they work great.

[@ToastUrbath]

36:40 THANK YOU. I hate it when glitches are removed on single player games for the simple fact that it cannot affect other players and make the game unfair. All it does is remove some interesting things from the game. As a game designer, I would never want to remove any glitches that do not negatively affect the game.

[@MonicAchannel22]

I hate to break it to ya, but if you hate backtracking so much, then the Metroid games aren't really for you. What I find baffling is that you keep overstating that Super Metroid did this really well, where I think that backtracking in that game was a complete waste of time. Again, at the end of the day, it's all opinion based. But backtracking is usually at the core of a Metroid game, just saying.

[@thebiggestnut217]

You make a valid point, but, usually, Metroid games provide a faster means by which to traverse the map again, either via an alteration of Samus' moveset (i.e. the Speed Booster or Space Jump) or a shortcut in the map that was previously inaccessible à la the Distribution Center chutes in AM2R or the elevators in Prime 2. This streamlines backtracking while still emphasizing exploration, hence why the games don't simply give you a teleporter or make you walk through a hub-esque area, like this game does. This is why backtracking is such a staple in the series - it's not tedious, but it's still immersive.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Agree. Walking in Magmoor cavern 5 times became quite boring when I played the game for the second time lol.

[@chadrasmussen6127]

I agree

[@0rnery0verwatch]

Bruh you the GOAT. Your channel is criminally under-subbed, and I hope other channels start giving you the recognition you deserve.

[@docsavage4921]

Oh yeah, the missile button it totally close to the A button in the Gamecube version. So is the morph ball button. Nothing like charging up a shot against Thardus or Omega Pirate and accidentally switching into morph ball mode.

[@CheddarBayBaby]

Slowly...slowly...slowly...

[@shadowedspartan3237]

I like the artifacts tbh. If you scan the chozo statues it tells you the exact room the artifact is in.

[@DropkickNation]

Considering how much hate you gave the artifact hunt in Prime 1, I cannot wait to hear your take on the Skytemple key hunt in Prime 2. ^^

[@TheBrutalSax]

The one in Prime 2 just sucked because when you do this while doing your 100% item run, most of them have you going out of your way for some thatt ake too much time. Like the one the dark world versions of the room in Temple Grounds before the Agon Wastes elevator Dark World version of that 1 room with the empty item pad that nobody ever goes to in the light world in Temple Grounds The one in the dark under water levels in Torvus bog Both the keys in Dark World Sanctuary Fortress. At least with the first Prime game, most of the Chozo Artifacts will be easy to come by if you're doing a 100% item run. Some of them you will come across before you get the Phazon Suit, which makes it better (Prime 2 doesn't have any keys within your path that are accessible pre-light suit). Only a couple artifacts I felt made me feel i'm going too far out of my way for (Which are the Phazon Mines ones for the most part). Prime 3 does it pretty well with the Energy Cells thing. Not all are required to beat the game, but all are required for 100% run.

[@DropkickNation]

Unpopular opinion: At first I hated the hunts as well. When you just wanna get to the end, I can fully understand the hate. But now I actually kinda love it. It is the perfect way to once again run through all the areas of the games, and while looking for the last pieces for your progression, to hunt down the last missing items that were unreachable before. As I always hunt for 100%, it suits my gameplay perfectly. I understand the criticism though.

[@zyad48]

Ugh, fuck the sky temple keys, here's the thing, I don't like either of the hunts, although I'll say the hunt in Prime 1 is better than the sky temple keys, because at least in Prime 1, the artifacts are located in areas that you would probably want to backtrack to anyway to get some use out of your new upgrades in order to get more missiles, power bombs, etc, the sky temple keys usually have their own rooms dedicated to them, and as such, while you could sometimes get some stuff on the way to the keys, you have little to no indication to go to the areas the keys are placed in in the first place aside from the mandatory "go here to find this thing to continue plot" The main reason being the rooms are usually dead-ends, and because of that, there's little reason to go there, especially since, and I'm bringing this up again, there's basically no upgrades in _any_ sky temple key room, as such, you have little indication to go to those areas naturally :P

[@Cybrisk]

That key hunt is the reason I haven't finished Prime 2 to thisday

[@thesaltmerchant4564]

Chris Purolover oh my god I still haven't done that...

[@NyJoanzy]

One detail of Prime took me too long to realise is that the beam icons are the hand signs Samus does to stitch weapons.

[@shumpdaddy9269]

I died to Farduis (the rock boss) so many times I got so mad I was yell laughing at the tv like Arin from Game Grumps.

[@euriherasme]

"LOL, use the power bomb B***h" Makes me laugh XD

[@DanielLearmouth]

I think the exploration is why I prefer Metroid Prime 2 over 1, weirdly. And I know Prime 2 has a few issues of its own regarding exploration, but that being said... ......it certainly feels more unique in terms of exploration and in terms of structure. Prime 1 to me had this very weary "been there done that" feeling that I had as of recent. In both, you explore a research station, fight a boss, escape, land on a lush, verdant area of a planet, and begin exploring an preparing to take down an ultimate evil that is burrowed into the planet. I don't dislike this, don't get me wrong. I mean, it worked for Super Metroid really well, and I do think it was wise to stick with what worked in an attempt to transition this into 3D. However, it's a matter of personal preference, and my preferences lie more in how the world is designed in Prime 2. Especially with regards to the Sky Temple Key hunt. If you know what you're doing, it's actually fairly easy to determine where the keys actually are. Sure, they were also fairly easy to find in Prime 1, but in Prime 1, you only really had the Impact Crater monoliths to rely on to figure out their location, and even then you're not gonna find them out that way all the time, as there are a couple monoliths you can't scan to find the corresponding location of the Artifact. Not to mention, I usually have trouble upon revisiting the game in that I usually forget where some of these Artifacts are.In Prime 2, the Keybearer is always located in close proximity to the key itself. At most, they're one chambre away from it, and even that is seldom the case. Not only that, but in the Light world, you can always find out where the Ing Caches are by using the Dark Visor. If anything, the only real problem by that point is actually getting these Keys, as they require a fairly large runaround to get them all, although this can be mitigated slightly by making your way through each area of Aether in a sensible order. Also, thank you, KZbin recommendations for allowing me to stumble on this here channel. This is a really good style of retrospective reviews, and whilst I don't agree 100% with everything, I do at the least see where you're coming from, and it's really interesting to hear something from another avenue. Keep it up, my dude!

[@koknoparker1098]

Metroid prime was my first metroid game. I loved the graphics and how u see everything through her eyes. I remember the first time I saw her eye when i was play and it scared me at first lol. But i got hooked since that game. Can't wait for metroid prime 4 comes out.

[@davemarx7856]

Oh goodness. I'm imagining metroid prime as an n64 game... Ew.

[@pastaman64]

When it comes to the similarities between Super and Prime, I think they're justified by the fact that Prime is the first 3D title in the series. It makes sense for the devs to wanna' start with aesthetically familiar locations to not only help win fans over, but to also have a solid reference and starting point when figuring out how to add a third dimension to Metroid's gameplay.

[@thefattesthagrid]

I'm so happy I can experience this game for the first time right now. Being able to play this in 4k with RTX shading and flawless controls is absolute bliss. I can't even complain about the ridiculous low difficulty because the game is so well built.

[@ABurntMuffin]

Never thought about the cryptic text based lore/story being so close in design to Dark Souls and I couldn't agree more. An absolutely brilliant, unheard of and new comparison imo.

[@Mr37Kyle]

Seriously buddy ....... I really enjoy your videos. It's a mixture of the topic, the length of the video and the voice that blend together to make something remarkable. Keep it up!

[@MrMaidenmania]

I appreciate your honesty with your opinions, but I just can't agree with most of what you said. I own and have played all of the Metroid titles and I just cannot understand how you would find any of the 2D games, except the first two in original formats, to be more difficult than Metroid Prime. Judging by your gameplay footage, it appears that you're just really bad at both games, especially with Super Metroid. And as far as the backtracking goes, you fail to acknowledge that there is just as much backtracking in Super Metroid, plus it doesn't take nearly as long as you exaggerate. You can get from Phendrana to Tallon Overworld in about 5 minutes, trust me, I've timed it. And that nitpick about super missiles on the wiimote is easily fixed if you just swap the A and B buttons like most sane people do. There's just nothing more natural than a trigger for an FPS.

[@Robbay363]

Only if the fight is engaging enough. The problem is not boss length but rather the repetitive nature of the patterns combined with the excessive length makes it a bit poor. The first boss of majoras mask was a great example of a lengthy but enjoyable boss fight.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

Super Metroid's Ridley is objectively harder than Metroid Prime lol-in fact, pretty much anything is. I think you are bad in 3-D games.

[@KbanjoK]

One of the first things I did in the Wii version is switch the A and B buttons. Jumping with A and using the B trigger for shooting is so much more intuitive, fixes the missile problem, and honestly should be the default.

[@TheoryCrafter]

"spider ball is a new addition to the series" ok boomer

[@LiamNajor]

Lol not everyone has played Metroid 2. It is a gameboy game, after all

[@TheoryCrafter]

@@LiamNajor ok boomer

[@LiamNajor]

@@TheoryCrafter I'm 19 lmao

[@TheoryCrafter]

@@LiamNajor you damn kids need to get off my front lawn!

[@TheDoomKnight]

Metroid Prime is my favorite Metroid. I started with the original on NES, but never beat it until recently. I have played every entry in the series since then, but Metroid Prime is my favorite. The atmosphere is immersive, the combat is quite solid, and the controls feel appropriate. I am terrible at FPS on consoles, I need my keyboard and mouse, so Prime's lock-on feature and combat based on strategy rather than skill helped me enjoy it much more. Plus the game is just GORGEOUS. They put so many fine details into it: Samus' face flashing inside her visor, the raindrops bouncing off her arm cannon, the steam effects and slime splatters across the screen. These helped draw me in and were very nice additions. Yeah, some of the bosses can get tedious, but that's what Prime was about. It wasn't a fast-paced action game. It was more akin to a slower-paced adventure game with some action sequences, and since combat was more about strategy and endurance, rather than speed and skill, the longer fights made sense. Great video.

[@whoever12341]

I don't really see why anything that has any backtracking is immediately frowned upon.. Specially metroid, the whole point of it all is to empower you, to dispatch enemies that gave you trouble much quicker and make you feel stronger the more you progressed. I understand the disliking it, but when a game is deliberately designed to lure you in, i don't see why people have a problem with traversing this rich, expertly crafted believable world. Another point and one than may be a little more of a crapshoot.. just moving feels good and there are a lot more sequence breaking techs that enhance that, so for a veteran player like myself that has played this over 20 times the backtracking can serve as a challenge hell, you can get everything in the game without ever needing the gravity suit or the thermal visor. Much like super, i don't believe a lot of the sequence breaking tech was unnintentional, in fact only the most evident and easy to pull of where patched, everything else is still there so i believe it was built with that in mind. I don't ever bactrack anymore (except for some artifacts that are actuallly impossible to get without first hitting a certain trigger elsewhere).

[@KingKlonoa]

Yeah I don't see why backtracking is frowned upon necessarily. Prime just didn't handle it well because Samus walks so slowly and it takes an eternity to get anywhere while playing normally. Super Metroid handled it perfectly.

[@zoidsfan12]

My buddy loves to just run Metroid prime in his free time, he sometimes speedruns, sometimes randomizers. The game looks great, especially with some of the breakdowns I have seen of how the levels essentially route you onto particular paths. Honestly been thinking about playing through each game in release order. Side note it never gets old bringing up other M to Metroid fans, it's like bringing up the prequels to star wars fans, except there isn't even the small subset that enjoys it despite it's flaws.

[@Kotathelulzy]

Nobody else has said this, but you sound almost exactly like batman from the animated series. And listening to you break down one of my favorite games is cool.

[@terminat4028]

In the option menu, you can switch the A and B buttons. This way you can use Super Missiles easier. You can also toggle the the cursor lock when you lock the enemy. This way the cursor stays in the center of the screen while locking an enemy or other things. This makes Phendrana Drift spikes easier to deal with, because they need crasy high precision since they weren't designed for Wiimote gameplay. You can also change the opacity of the HUD and the opacity of the helmet. (this is a good feature for Dolphin VR, this fixes some issues)

[@rickyricardo9710]

You really are the most impatient youtuber I've ever watched.

[@bens5093]

You have not watched Arin from Game Grumps and his Sequelitis series...

[@milkmanswife93696]

your way of analysing games is fantastic. this video helped me understand a bit more why metroid prime is in my top 10 games of all time.

[@cinnamonnoir2487]

Interesting. Fusion was my first Metroid game, too, although I played Prime shortly afterwards. Maybe that's why story in these games has mattered more to me than to a lot of others.

[@ReplayAbilityVG]

Good video! Just wanted to let you know a trick for Thardus that should speed up the fight for you in the future! When he's rolling around, you can bomb him and it IMMEDIATELY reveals his next weak point so you can start blasting it. Makes the fight way less long and tedious!

[@henrique88t]

Oh man, the negative things in these retrospectives stand out with a certain bitterness that seems you had just one miserable experience. Even though the final impression is that it was "greatly enjoyed", I think the positive things pale to me as a viewer because they aren't delivered just as passionately.

[@buggs9950]

Perhaps when something is so admired on a personal level its perceived flaws are all the more apparent and therefore attract more criticism.

[@BMW-sd6nn]

I love the meta ridley fight lol