Evolution of the Toronto Subway 1954-2030s (geographic map)

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@1234canadianguy
@1234canadianguy 2 жыл бұрын
As a native Torontonian, I got to admit I was pleasantly surprised to see this video on the TTC Subway. Other than Lines 5 and 6 being stated as the "Sheppard" when it should say "Eglinton" and "Finch West" respectively at 3:30, this is an overall awesome video! I honestly never thought I would see the subway system of my hometown featured on this channel. :)
@alexanderip1003
@alexanderip1003 Жыл бұрын
I Hope they include a Line 7 (Sheppard East *Supplementary LRT Line) *In the event Line 4 ran into certain incidents to the point the subway service is suspended this LRT Line above it will take over the service No More Buses
@amouryf
@amouryf Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderip1003 I want lakeshoree
@siekensou77
@siekensou77 Жыл бұрын
2030 map is nearly a century late... at the very least half a century late.. this is no where near enough
@josephlin8065
@josephlin8065 Жыл бұрын
Better late than never.
@shawnpitman876
@shawnpitman876 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderip1003 You're beyond stupid. Why would they make the least used line in the system the only redundant one?
@johnnolan5579
@johnnolan5579 2 жыл бұрын
Even though the Sheppard line is underutilized, I am very surprised that the Sheppard East line will not connect with the Sheppard West station. This would be an ideal relief line during other line shutdowns.
@asiena
@asiena 2 жыл бұрын
Far too logical for Toronto
@anhbinbaccuc8850
@anhbinbaccuc8850 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same question why they don't connect that part, people are not using it because there;s no connection, once there is east-west Sheppard that line will be so busy as people are trying to avoid using 2 different 84 east and 84 west buses
@fredbryce8263
@fredbryce8263 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr, I live in the North York area and it bothers me how I have to transfer from Sheppard West to Sheppard-Yonge by using a bus and then transferring again by the subway to reach Don Mills, the TTC would always say that it's because of low ridership but it's not really the case since a lot of college/university students could utilize the extension and eliminate the east-west transfer at Yonge Street just like in Eglinton. And theoritically it would cost less than the now under construction Scarborough Subway Extension. But I guess it's Toronto what do you expect lmao
@anhbinbaccuc8850
@anhbinbaccuc8850 2 жыл бұрын
@@fredbryce8263 I always thought eventually they would connect them, since I see the frequency of 84 Sheppard buses surpasses other routes every time I'm waiting for buses at Sheppard West (former Downsview station)
@anhbinbaccuc8850
@anhbinbaccuc8850 2 жыл бұрын
I am SO SO SO very sure, people living mid way Eglington north shall they wanted to go east or west they would ditch going south to use line 2, instead they would use the connected Sheppard line if that line exist .....that is a major traffic directed north helping to ease line 2 for people work, live and tourists in the downtown area ......Once the Eglington goes into operation and line 2 is less congested then we will understand the importance of east-west Sheppard since the city is expanded further north, Vaughan is growing this line will prove to be very critical in helping to distribute the traffics in line 1 and 2
@flare2000x
@flare2000x 2 жыл бұрын
One small correction: the Ontario line isn't going to be a light metro, the trains will be slightly smaller than the main lines but they are still normal subway trains, 5 cars long and 3m wide.
@stinkyroadhog1347
@stinkyroadhog1347 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty certain it is a light metro using trains similar to what Montreal will use for its REM line.
@pepperpillow
@pepperpillow 2 жыл бұрын
It is a light metro. That is what it’s called.
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist 2 жыл бұрын
A light metro is a metro system with smaller trains. Look at the rt. Half of Line 5 will be a light metro because they use a smaller vehicle than the main cars
@林嘉霆
@林嘉霆 2 жыл бұрын
It is by Hitachi, using their light metro trains (similar to TRTC's EMU101
@Alt1229_Transit
@Alt1229_Transit Жыл бұрын
Line 5 is a light rail, not a light metro.
@Quast
@Quast 2 жыл бұрын
Was always surprised that Toronto only had one line for the West-East axis.
@strawberry7799a
@strawberry7799a 2 жыл бұрын
The original plans in the 1960s was for two east-west lines. One on Bloor/Danforth and the second on Queen Street in Downtown. Original segment of BD line was built but then the Queen line was delayed. Instead the BD line was extended deeper into the suburbs because that got the politicians new votes. The Queen line was planned and delayed multiple times for several decades. Now the plan is called the Ontario Line project. Construction is planned this decade and its expected to open by 2030.
@Playfulpat
@Playfulpat 2 жыл бұрын
In downtown Toronto East to west is covered by street cars
@xr6lad
@xr6lad 2 жыл бұрын
@@strawberry7799a so in other words, it can still be delayed for several decades. Let’s face it the first hole has just been dug 8 years to build 15 km is pretty pathetic. May as well include a monorail someone wants to build.
@shawnpitman876
@shawnpitman876 2 жыл бұрын
Eglinton won't suffice as an east west line, so we'll still only really have one, because they insist on putting in these LRTs that suck, we should have sheppard line from east to west in place of that finch LRT nonsense.
@redstone91210
@redstone91210 2 жыл бұрын
*clears throat* ONE Line?
@techdeals9733
@techdeals9733 2 жыл бұрын
2060 - "guys we are finishing Eglinton line this year!"
@jonchius
@jonchius 5 ай бұрын
2100 - "We are going to announce the announcement of the possible opening for next year of Line 5!"
@ckmkio
@ckmkio 4 ай бұрын
After 2 years: Best comment ever.
@ernestdunphy7027
@ernestdunphy7027 4 ай бұрын
sad but at the rate they are going
@jmstransit
@jmstransit 4 ай бұрын
Needs more likes
@FryGuy-
@FryGuy- 4 ай бұрын
For every decade you experience on earth, 1 year of construction passes on the LRT
@rodneychan914
@rodneychan914 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job!! Just wanted to point out that the Scarborough RT (Line 3) actually closes next year in 2023!! There will be a 7 year gap until the subway extension opens, so service will be replaced by busses. They are currently planning to repurpose the SRT right of way to create a bus transit way tho!!
@muhammadfariz2839
@muhammadfariz2839 2 жыл бұрын
Why they (TTC) will closing the Scarborough RT service?
@Wald4267
@Wald4267 2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow I didn’t think it was next year
@sebastianperez8023
@sebastianperez8023 2 жыл бұрын
@@muhammadfariz2839 The train cabs have way outlived its lifespan. It would be very expensive to maintain these cabs.
@muhammadfariz2839
@muhammadfariz2839 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianperez8023 , what about changing to another train cabs?
@fredbryce8263
@fredbryce8263 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's because the shuttle buses that will be used for next year will still be branded as Line 3 until the subway extension and the Ontario Line (future Line 3) opens but I might be wrong
@rowanguy9528
@rowanguy9528 2 жыл бұрын
Pleeease do Vancouver! it would be amazing to see, I think there are quite detailed future expansion plans
@nedhappily
@nedhappily 2 жыл бұрын
Not as many as Toronto. Only one UBC line for future project that's all They don't even have budget for Surrey-Langley skytrain
@rowanguy9528
@rowanguy9528 2 жыл бұрын
@@nedhappily they actually have proposed plans for many decades into the future, you need to download the PDFs to check it out, the Langley connection was delayed due to covid
@nedhappily
@nedhappily 2 жыл бұрын
@@rowanguy9528 Yea they always plan stuff but no money to build. Toronto and Montreal took most of the federal budget to build stuff. The Langley extension delayed not only because of COVID but also waiting for money. (Just saw the news last month) COVID was the best excuse they can mention. Pandemic also hit Ontario and Quebec hard but that didn't stop projects in Toronto and Montreal. I don't think the construction will happen by 2025. Very typical BC thing
@sprocketspritz
@sprocketspritz 2 жыл бұрын
@@nedhappily The GVRD currently has a longer pure RT system than the entire GTA, with just over 1/3 the population. That lead won't be tied by the Ontario Line either. The GTA's RT system is truly pathetic, although there is potential to significantly upgrade the streetcar system to significantly speed it up. If only Toronto would do it.
@ClassicGuy57
@ClassicGuy57 2 жыл бұрын
Vancouver is getting a transit system? It’s about time! You have enough people for a system.
@shawnpitman876
@shawnpitman876 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that their proposed plan leaves the dumbest gap in transit between the two forks of line 2, when that would be another way to massively reduce stress on the transit system.
@ncard00
@ncard00 Жыл бұрын
Subways are stupid. During construction, co2 emissions are too high, they cost 5 times as much as trams per mile, and they’re just an excuse to keep running cars on the surface, instead of using trams to take away car lanes.
@TheRandCrews
@TheRandCrews 10 ай бұрын
@@ncard00that’s just North American cost evaluations, it’s always going to be more expensive than Europe or Asia. You can build more trams to serve more people in many areas in Subway but people usually don’t travel on trams that long and is more of a local service than a crosstown subway that feeds to. That’s why Don Mills LRT is replaced by the Ontario Line and future extensions. Trams are not sufficient to handle this much people in Toronto, line 5 Eglinton being a downgraded LRT from a subway cancelled decades ago still has the original segments planned built as subways. Many people presume that it will be overcrowded when it opens and many choke points when it starts to run in mix traffic. Let alone how much would it even be any faster than some alternative or comparable trips. It doesn’t help either that these LRT’s are replacing the busiest bus corridors, but also have a bunch of development on the same one, like Eglinton.
@Bruce-l
@Bruce-l 9 ай бұрын
@@ncard00 in Toronto, the streetcars (trams) tracks are shared with cars, making them really slow. subways also have alot more capacity and speed than streetcars
@Absolute_Zero7
@Absolute_Zero7 6 ай бұрын
@@ncard00 Trams are significantly slower whilst costing too much to justify their price tag (at least in NA). Trams should never be considered as a replacement for Subways, they're more or less just glorified busses in the context of a transit network.
@angelicajacobs584
@angelicajacobs584 2 жыл бұрын
This was soo cool to see! I used to work up by hi tech and saw them surveying the area and they said it was for the new subway! THAT would have made getting from Wilson subway to Richmond Hill SOOOOO much easier and faster!
@tntmaster1104
@tntmaster1104 2 жыл бұрын
Lets Go! Another one from the Legend himself: MetroLiner!!!!!!!
@OfelieArt
@OfelieArt 2 жыл бұрын
I used to study at Humber College and live in accommodation there. A subway line from there would be so dang helpful... Took like 2 hours to get to downtown one way...
@Absolute_Zero7
@Absolute_Zero7 2 жыл бұрын
Its not going to be much faster. What's being built is basically like a streetcar line similar to the Spadina Streetcar downtown: It might save around 5 minutes to get to Finch West Station, but overall it won't be much of an improvement.
@mxhe9457
@mxhe9457 2 жыл бұрын
@@Absolute_Zero7 I would say it will be faster than the Spadina Streetcar as stop spacing will be much farther apart, but not as fast as the subway. Speeds comparable to the current Harbourfront Streetcar, which doesn't have to wait at many lights given it's placement next to the water.
@Skyfoogle
@Skyfoogle 2 жыл бұрын
@@mxhe9457 egregious that LRT systems integrated into the rapid transit network would even have to stop at traffic lights.
@mxhe9457
@mxhe9457 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skyfoogle I agree, they absolutely should have done more for priority signalling on both Eglinton and Finch, but my point stands it will be faster than the Spadina Streetcar.
@anhbinbaccuc8850
@anhbinbaccuc8850 2 жыл бұрын
I just passed by there and saw the new station situated at the intersection of Highway 22, facing the hospital. Now they have the bus terminal right infront of the Guelph University, students get off cross the street and enter the college .....back in 2010 I took the Finch bus and had to walk from the bus stop to the college which takes like 7-10mins ....and when you're late durring exam days that 10mins was really something, not to mention winter snowy and icy weather .
@jiecut
@jiecut 2 жыл бұрын
0:45 Wow, what an interesting 3-route system, interlining trial in 1966.
@davidbrowne3761
@davidbrowne3761 2 жыл бұрын
As a Native Torontonian I am very happy to see this video. Metrolinx the government agency overseeing the construction of Eglinton Crosstown/Eglinton/Line 5 is Aiming for an Opening Date of 9 OCTOBER 2022
@AutoGamerZ_
@AutoGamerZ_ 2 жыл бұрын
I have my doubts they will make that deadline but if they do that'd be amazing.
@davidbrowne3761
@davidbrowne3761 2 жыл бұрын
@@AutoGamerZ_ Indeed But it is GOOD that they are trying to start service before 2023 Metrolinx may open Crosstown and By-pass Eglinton Station for a short time due the mess with the state of utilities underneath Eglinton and above the Station Box for Line 5
@strawberry7799a
@strawberry7799a 2 жыл бұрын
From what I have read October is simply the date when construction will finish. Testing and training for TTC crews will then begin. Revenue service is likely to be seen in early 2023.
@davidbrowne3761
@davidbrowne3761 2 жыл бұрын
@@strawberry7799a Some testing is already done, these vehicles are similar to those that run Downtown so training should not be very long period
@vajayna_eklhabouh
@vajayna_eklhabouh 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Fellow 416er over here -- I always wondered why they never wanted to do some kind of partial operability here like what they do in Singapore..... They open their lines in phases.
@ItisMoody
@ItisMoody 22 күн бұрын
The fact that 2024 is over and neither the Eglinton Crosstown nor the Finch West lines have an opening date in sight…. 💀💀💀
@Wald4267
@Wald4267 Жыл бұрын
One correction: Sheppard-Yonge station wasn’t always known as “Sheppard-Yonge” before the Sheppard Subway Line was opened in 2002. The station was known as Sheppard Station. It was renamed in part of the station having a direct, at foot connection to line 4.
@noelgenoway9360
@noelgenoway9360 2 жыл бұрын
Sheppard East and Sheppard - Yonge ................needs to connect to Sheppard West. This would make so much SENSE!!!
@ItisMoody
@ItisMoody 2 жыл бұрын
Finch West should be expanded to Finch East, and Sheppard should definitely be extended to McCowan to the east and Shep. W to the west. Also, dear fellow Torontonians, do not underestimate how much relief the Ontario Line is going to provide once it opens!!! The route is genius and I wish the next 10 years would fly lol...
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist 2 жыл бұрын
And of course our government is gonna "extend" Line 4 by making it an lrt. Either extend the subway of get rid of it.
@lvalledor3440
@lvalledor3440 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I believe Line 4 Extending to connect with Line 2 Extension should happen because the existing Line 4 we got is so mediocre. If Line 4 extends to McCowan it will be more useful due to its connection/interchange with Line 2 & Line 4 would also fulfill its original proposal of ending up in Scarborough. I feel like some of the other Lines can be extended as well possibly Ontario Line be extended North to Don Mills Station to connect with Line 4 & I think it'd be nice for Line 6 to extend South to Woodbine Ctr, Pearson Airport & I think it'd be nice if Line 6 could terminate at Kipling Station taking a route similar to the proposed Etobicoke RT & finally make good use of the abandoned trackbed at Kipling Station
@fortythreenorth2518
@fortythreenorth2518 2 жыл бұрын
Toronto has really grown since I moved away in 1988. I wish they'd build a decent RT line here in London but all we are getting is a lousy bus lane in a decade from now.
@twocansams6335
@twocansams6335 2 жыл бұрын
Because of electric buses unless the route is very high traffic a electric bus would be cheaper.
@gemgem8191
@gemgem8191 Жыл бұрын
Fired
@artiesimek8327
@artiesimek8327 8 ай бұрын
it's so nice to know that there will be rapid transit where I live when I am dead.
@christopher19894
@christopher19894 2 жыл бұрын
The Scarborough RT was new when I was a kid, and ever since then I had a feeling it would be scrapped eventually. It's so janky and kinda useless as a separate train system.
@AreYouEddie
@AreYouEddie 2 жыл бұрын
you also gotta remember that Scarborough was somehow capital rich enough to pull this off pre amalgamation. they took it into their hands to serve their community. post amalgamation...well ...City of Toronto has how many billions of infrastructure upkeep they are behind on? It does make you wonder what the outer boroughs couldve done without amalgamation....another what if
@Absolute_Zero7
@Absolute_Zero7 6 ай бұрын
@@AreYouEddie Amalgamation had little impact on transit planning. The TTC was always run by Metro Toronto, which was comprised of the various municipalities that make up modern Toronto. Scarborough got Line 3 for the same reason why North York got the Yonge North and Spadina Subways, and why a Queen Subway was never built. Its because suburban voices made up a large portion of Metro Toronto leadership, frankly no different from the current state of affairs post-amalgamation.
@fredbryce8263
@fredbryce8263 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Toronto specifically in the North York district and I believe that every single person here wants an improvement for Line 4, as of now it's the only Line that doesn't have any active plans or extensions since opening, Line 1 has an extension on the Yonge part, Line 2 has an extension to Sheppard East , and then Line 5 to Renforth, but they chose to literally stay silent on Line 4 (wtf). Line 4 was literally the white elephant of the system besides Line 3, and it would be a shame if they would just leave it like that and not extend it to Sheppard West and Sheppard East.
@haoxus9413
@haoxus9413 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Toronto too. I don't want improvements for line 4
@vicenteesnaola2658
@vicenteesnaola2658 2 жыл бұрын
Seconded. Don’t care about line 4.
@AreYouEddie
@AreYouEddie 2 жыл бұрын
for line 4 to be successful it needs to somehow close the loop on both sides. there once was a plan for it to go to the zoo and then a LRT plan for that during the miller days. now it's just inconvenient to take especially since the TTC doesn't have a distance based fare system.... if they did, people could hop on and off it ...
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist 2 жыл бұрын
I love in scarborough and i wonder why its so short
@ClassicGuy57
@ClassicGuy57 2 жыл бұрын
I’m on your side with Line 4. I believe it should be extended west and east. It would relieve a lot of congestion during other line closures.
@pbilk
@pbilk 2 жыл бұрын
4:40 that just makes sense to connect to the airport. I hope it goes forward past "proposed".
@ClassicGuy57
@ClassicGuy57 2 жыл бұрын
It would help with all the frequent commuters that go to airport often via UP EXPRESS and the 900 bus from Kipling Station to Pearson.
@Absolute_Zero7
@Absolute_Zero7 6 ай бұрын
It is part of the official plan for the line, the problem is the line would've connected to the new Transit Hub (Union Station West) that the GTAA (Greater Toronto Airport Authority) was planning. Problem is COVID completely screwed up the GTAA's finances, and now those plans for a Transit Hub are up in limbo. For what its worth its not strictly necessary. There is already a train service to the Airport (UP Express), which will have a transfer to Line 5 at Mount Dennis Station (the initial western terminus of Line 5).
@PhilliesNostalgia
@PhilliesNostalgia 2 жыл бұрын
It seems you accidentally kept Sheppard up as the names for Lines 5 & 6
@MetroLiner
@MetroLiner 2 жыл бұрын
Oh no… How did I not see that :’(
@dannybans23
@dannybans23 2 жыл бұрын
Wow didn't know some of these were in the works.. very exciting
@papyrussemi2848
@papyrussemi2848 2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, Scarborough was closed ahead of schedule and we're twiddling our thumbs waiting for Line 5.
@tompeled6193
@tompeled6193 2 жыл бұрын
Line 4 and 6 should be connected and merged into one line.
@Kishanth.J
@Kishanth.J 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean line 4 and line 6? Cause line 5 and line 4 are pretty far apart.
@Kishanth.J
@Kishanth.J 2 жыл бұрын
From what I know Line 6 is basically similar to the original Line 4 design. Line 4 was meant to go west of Yonge st along Shepherds avenue and farther east through Scarborough along Shepherds avenue. That plan, as well as two other subway projects, were canceled controversially during construction. What is left of line 4 was all that survived.
@strawberry7799a
@strawberry7799a 2 жыл бұрын
I assume you mean Line 4 and Line 6. Issue is that Line 4 uses subway trains while Line 6 is actually a tram. The vehicles are not compatible and the stations have different platform heights.
@tompeled6193
@tompeled6193 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kishanth.J Yep
@carpanatomytony
@carpanatomytony 2 жыл бұрын
I'm totally supporting this
@BMTEnjoyer160
@BMTEnjoyer160 Жыл бұрын
Who loves this guy and his content 👇
@FrozenBusChannel
@FrozenBusChannel 2 жыл бұрын
The hairpin-shaped line is interesting, as is the transfer-free thing they attempted
@redlinedreamin
@redlinedreamin 2 жыл бұрын
Do Chicago next! Your videos are so well done
@IrishTransportGuy
@IrishTransportGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Keep up the excellent work!
@SyntaxOverflow
@SyntaxOverflow 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could make a part 2 which shows the Go train lines mixed in with our TTC?
@mdtorres_76
@mdtorres_76 Жыл бұрын
good idea.
@stephen9609
@stephen9609 2 жыл бұрын
2023 will be a big year for the system! It's a crime that nothing was opened between 2003 and 2017.
@tusanthaya1970
@tusanthaya1970 2 жыл бұрын
What was the reason for no openings during this time?
@stephen9609
@stephen9609 2 жыл бұрын
@@tusanthaya1970 Poor planning and cuts in the 1990s. There was a subway line under construction which the Conservative government at the time cancelled and filled in the hole that was already dug...
@sygneg7348
@sygneg7348 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephen9609 You forgot to mention the subway crash of 1995. The government felt that the TTC couldn't handle the system properly and further broke down it's budget and power until the safety measures were properly put into place.
@andlau88
@andlau88 2 жыл бұрын
I hope the weekly closure between Lawrence and St Clair will end by then
@steflynn7772
@steflynn7772 Ай бұрын
Here we are at almost 2025 and nothing has changed. Eglinton STILL not finished. Metrolinx testing the unsuspected sand deposits everywhere.
@baharehhamekasi8278
@baharehhamekasi8278 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, so helpful
@CC-rx9ty
@CC-rx9ty 2 жыл бұрын
The final project is what Toronto subway map should look like now. Sad this won’t come to fruition for another 10+ years
@steflynn7772
@steflynn7772 Ай бұрын
Our subway line really hasn’t changed much in 50 years. Here we are almost 2025 and the Eglington line isn’t finished. Construction going on for about 20 years now. None of this future metrolinx will be completed by 2040 let alone 2030.
@pacman3556
@pacman3556 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a proposal to also extend the new Eglinton LRT from Kennedy Subway station further along Eglinton then across Kingston Road to Morningside Ave eventually coming to an end at U of T Scarborough Campus?
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@TMBpk
@TMBpk 4 ай бұрын
That will be a separate line….referred to as Line 7.
@kennethso1181
@kennethso1181 2 жыл бұрын
I can use my senior discount to ride the Ontario line if I am still alive in 2047!
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@Andrewjg_89
@Andrewjg_89 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Very accurate as well. 👍☺️
@MaxCheng95
@MaxCheng95 2 жыл бұрын
Personal opinion, I think Line 1 should split in twain at Union. I’m not really a huge fan of a U shaped metro line, especially one this close to each other downtown. (Sorry RM Transit lol)
@MetroLiner
@MetroLiner 2 жыл бұрын
Splitting the line will help the operator run the trains more efficiently, but for passengers the U shape is quite helpful! The parallel stations in downtown are walking distances from each other and also connected by streetcars, but many passengers still chose to go around the "U" via Union when travelling between downtown and the northern part of the line especially during cold snowy winters.
@MaxCheng95
@MaxCheng95 2 жыл бұрын
@@MetroLiner True, but those parallel stations in downtown are only a couple blocks away from each other, some even interconnected underground, getting a U shaped thru service doesn’t make it much better when that is considered
@quoclongly4365
@quoclongly4365 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxCheng95 The U is necessary to connect the lines to Wilson Yard. Otherwise the eastern half (including sheppard line) would have to be serviced only @ Davisville yard which is smaller than Wilson. For logistical reasons the city should have finished connecting sheppard east station towards sheppard west station (use to be downsview) so that trains on sheppard line and eastern section could easily connect to wilson yard.
@MaxCheng95
@MaxCheng95 2 жыл бұрын
@@quoclongly4365 Splitting the line doesn’t mean splitting the infrastructures as well. It’s actually pretty common for subways to share rail yards between different lines and I was referring to splitting service blocks, not the infrastructures
@Skyfoogle
@Skyfoogle 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxCheng95 can't say I'm sure what the point of that would be. for people close to or east of yonge who want to get on the university line, it would just add an unnecessary transfer at union. and nobody likes transfers, were spending $5.5 billion just to eliminate a transfer at kennedy. it would maybe give the TTC more frequency control between the two segments of the line, but I feel the benefits would be negligible as they're both very busy.
@daydreamer8662
@daydreamer8662 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in my 60's and I grew up in Willowdale. I recall the first expansions of the Yonge St. line first to York Mills then to Finch. I thought that in the next 10 years, it was going to hit Newmarket. Then we got Criminal Lastman to screw everything up including his Sheppard Stump. In 70 years, we now have about 76 km of subway with one of the highest fares in the world. Shanghai has about 8 times as much, faster service, and fares as high as $2 for a long ride, $0.50 for a short trip. Rome's subway is around the same length. But a monthly pass is around $50. The TTC, once the envy of the world, now a public, mismanaged joke
@Guncannon
@Guncannon 2 жыл бұрын
You pretty much hit the point. All these people who try to push people to go take a transit instead of driving should read it. It really explains why people are still insist of driving instead of taking the transit even with gas price at all time high right now. Transit system in GTA is expensive, slow and unreliable. The subway system is getting partially shut down almost every week now. A good example is it only takes me like 20-25 mins to drive to work, and it'll take hour 45 mins to 2 hours + with transit. It is really a no brainer to choose which way to travel.
@marcrchz
@marcrchz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guncannon If your city actually managed to build a decent system over the core to various suburbs in all that time they had, it would have actually been good for a lot of people, with good prices.
@blastbottles
@blastbottles 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcrchz yea well politics
@maxjohnson8659
@maxjohnson8659 2 жыл бұрын
why tf would it go to Newmarket when we already have the Barrie GO line? it's exactly this kind of thinking that led to too much underground heavy rail in the suburbs leading to inadequate capacity where it's actually needed (downtown relief line). and what tf does Mel Lastman have to do with anything? His original plan was a subway from Downsview to McCowan/STC. it was the 90s recession and Rae's cuts that created the line 4 stump.
@daydreamer8662
@daydreamer8662 2 жыл бұрын
​@@maxjohnson8659 I guess you have difficulties with simple math. In the 70s, I was a young teenager. How TF would I know about all this at that time? It just appeared that the subway was forever going north. In a short time, it went from Eglington to Finch. And just because there is a GO line, that doesn't eliminate the need for a subway line. Lastman demanded control over the TTC, and as such, the provincial gov't said fine, you want it your way, then you pay. So, to answer your ignorant comment, when Mel realized his funds ran short, he petitioned developers to kick back some coin if he increased density. It wasn't Bob Rea that made the Sheppard Stump, it was the guy who went to jail; Mel Lastman. Are you one of Lastman's illegitimate children?
@Novaflyer7000
@Novaflyer7000 Жыл бұрын
Until 2002, as you nearly forget, there were the 60x series routes for subways. - 601 BLOOR-DANFORTH - 602 YONGE-UNIVERSITY-SPADINA - 603 SCARBOROUGH RT - 604 HARBOURFRONT LRT (adopted the 510 number from 1996). The 1-4 numbering became available for internal use in 2002 and formally introduced to the public in late 2013.
@birgiollo9229
@birgiollo9229 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please do Milan? I'm Italian and I just started watching your videos, they're amazing
@JasonParis
@JasonParis 2 жыл бұрын
You really need to do one for Metolinx's regional rail services, especially now that we are heading into S-Bahn territory in the Greater Golden Horseshoe.
@havingalook2
@havingalook2 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, thank you - very informative.
@carpanatomytony
@carpanatomytony 2 жыл бұрын
really nice!
@SummeRain783
@SummeRain783 2 жыл бұрын
Wish Ontario line extended to lakeshore/mimico area somehow. There are a lot of residential developments there. The traffic in that area is pretty horrendous as well. Adding more transit there would make an often traffic induced 1 hour trip only 15 minutes.
@Rafin889
@Rafin889 Жыл бұрын
As someone from South Etobicoke, I agree
@diorcolon8543
@diorcolon8543 2 жыл бұрын
correct me if I'm wrong but it feels like you have to take at least two trains to get anywhere in this system.
@nathanael27
@nathanael27 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. As a Torontonian, I can say that is the case..
@Humulator
@Humulator 2 жыл бұрын
sort of yes, but you must relisie the trains come every 3-10 mintues depending on time of say, 10 being night. aswell the bus system is fantastic and its no big deal having to transfer.
@shawnpitman876
@shawnpitman876 2 жыл бұрын
@@Humulator Bus system is fantastic my rear end, you've clearly never lived near the outskirts of Toronto.
@Humulator
@Humulator 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnpitman876 you are correct my guy, i have only ever really lived in the downtown areas but i have been to the suburbs and oh god its annoying there
@shawnpitman876
@shawnpitman876 2 жыл бұрын
@@Humulator Then I'd suggest shutting up about the transit system, because they've made sure you core dwelling hipsters have been taken care of for literally longer than you've been alive, but the city exists outside of that area, and a good MAJORITY of the ridership of the TTC resides outside of the core.
@MarloSoBalJr
@MarloSoBalJr 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious, what tool do you use to make these line illustrations
@MetroLiner
@MetroLiner 2 жыл бұрын
I am using Adobe After Effects
@DonutsIceCreamAndCottenCandy
@DonutsIceCreamAndCottenCandy 2 жыл бұрын
@@MetroLiner I think the big mistake in this video is when you accidentally called Bloor station "Bloor-Yonge" when before line 2 I think it was just called bloor. Besides that this is a good video.
@karlsturm9698
@karlsturm9698 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't used the Toronto metro, but it seems like it might be difficult to transfer from green to yellow in the morning rush. Is that the case?
@ClassicGuy57
@ClassicGuy57 2 жыл бұрын
It can be. Trains get crowded very easily during the morning rush. However, there are more trains running during both the morning and afternoon rushes. It does help with the crowds.
@starfirex2413
@starfirex2413 2 жыл бұрын
Would be great to see Go and UPE lines and connections as well. There are several extension and stations being built.
@brianly100
@brianly100 2 жыл бұрын
The UP express only have 4 stops what’s the point of making a video on that
@DarrylErickson
@DarrylErickson 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianly100 it will have 6 stops in the future (Mount Pleasant and Stockyards being added) but still agreed, not worth a video lol
@Nabee_H
@Nabee_H 9 ай бұрын
Lakeshore East will be connecting with the Ontario Line I believe.
@brookestephen
@brookestephen Жыл бұрын
Nice work! Why not include the Union Station/International Airport route?
@WanukeX
@WanukeX Жыл бұрын
The “Toronto Subway” just means the lines run by the TTC, the UP and the GO Trains are run by metrolinx, so not included.
@neverenoughguitars8276
@neverenoughguitars8276 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Scarborough from 1975 - 2001 and I would have killed to have that Sheppard line from Sheppard East to the Finch line. Would have saved me so much of my life that was wasted taking busses for hours every day.
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist 2 жыл бұрын
Stay away until they make sure they're not making an lrt east of don mills.
@ariangh815
@ariangh815 4 ай бұрын
Perfect! This video shows how advanced the Canadian public transit is. Just look at the speed! The scale! The quality! The agility! Just look at how well they managed to update and scale up the infrastructures with the population increase! These are all the marvels of importing temporary Tim Hortons workers to this country.
@martinsnajdr4966
@martinsnajdr4966 2 жыл бұрын
I ❤️ this video. 🇨🇿👋🇰🇷&🇨🇦
@shvalovpavel9243
@shvalovpavel9243 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Hope, we will see Montreal Subway - probably, the only system in the world, where the whole line (opened for EXPO67) was scrapped
@pppphillip
@pppphillip 2 жыл бұрын
This looks very simple. I can't say that it's bad but maybe there are some options to differ the routes of the lines, so there are more connections. But there will be a logic behind these plans, so I don't complain about it
@jayvonnoelsmith8445
@jayvonnoelsmith8445 2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy for ttc
@pbasswil
@pbasswil Жыл бұрын
It's a substantial & useful system, by North American standards, and still evolving. I can't help thinking, though, this ~75 years of subway development is equal to about 5 years of just about any Chinese metro! Different political system, different municipal (and societal) priorities, etc, etc.
@lennywatchesstuff
@lennywatchesstuff 10 ай бұрын
the chinese government has a lot of money… also mass transit is way more profitable in a populous country.
@astwas
@astwas 2 жыл бұрын
Subway directly to Pearson airport would be dooope
@jeremygilbert7190
@jeremygilbert7190 2 жыл бұрын
A minor error, not sure if this has been pointed out before (maybe by me...) but "Sheppard-Yonge" station wasn't called that until the Sheppard line opened in 2002. It was called "Sheppard" station before then.
@aliakbarzaidi4344
@aliakbarzaidi4344 Жыл бұрын
What software do you use to make these maps?
@ynwa3573
@ynwa3573 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video that shows how slow the Subway development is in a metropolitan city called Toronto. Compared it to Singapore. The development pace is like tortoise (Toronto) and a Hare
@PanUtopia
@PanUtopia 2 жыл бұрын
The legend for line 5 and 6 is incorrect, I think you forgot to change from Sheppard to Eglington and Finch West.
@mtlicq
@mtlicq 10 ай бұрын
its stupid not to extend the Sheppard line west of Yonge to the other north-south subway, smart to do it, and its such a short distance.
@TTCvideogamer
@TTCvideogamer 9 ай бұрын
I’m lovin it!
@alexanderip1003
@alexanderip1003 2 жыл бұрын
that is all well and good but please attempt the GO Transit (Est.1967) as well
@hayeslee13
@hayeslee13 5 ай бұрын
everytime I watch this I feel sad at how slow we are at building public transportation lol
@DRAGONH3XA5
@DRAGONH3XA5 Жыл бұрын
The Way TTC changes is awesome! Sad to see Line 3 Scarborough to close permanently tho.
@NoName-vx6up
@NoName-vx6up 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe someone can critique my suggestion on why they shouldn't make a line from existing line 1 to go eat/west along Steeles? What a great hub that would have been to connect the city of Toronto with the 905ers. I know, $$, but density wise it just makes sense IMO.
@qolspony
@qolspony 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice for the Sheppard 4 line was extended to the other half of the #1 yellow line where the #6 begins. Although extending it east is a somewhat good compromise. Repurposing the 3 line to serve a new corridor is a good idea. As it was never really meant to be a branch line. All in All, it looks like traveling by rail would be a whole lot easier by 2035. I'm also aware that Toronto has Light Rail, which if it should expand, would put Toronto on the map as a world class city.
@SyntaxOverflow
@SyntaxOverflow 2 жыл бұрын
They should throw in the GO train along with this, as people use it in a similar manner to subway for getting around.
@moho472
@moho472 Жыл бұрын
​@@SyntaxOverflowThere is a GO Train. It's at Downsview Park Station.
@jackmiller9829
@jackmiller9829 2 жыл бұрын
When line 5 opened in 2022? When?
@красныйлис-е1и
@красныйлис-е1и 2 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_5_Eglinton
@user-tr9rw7ne8x
@user-tr9rw7ne8x 2 жыл бұрын
It's opening in fall or winter 2022
@elbandano2721
@elbandano2721 2 жыл бұрын
a perfect video for a perfect subway of a perfect country PD: great video
@619WWEFAN
@619WWEFAN 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a way to connect line 4 and line 6 together. There’s so much gap in middle
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist
@Train_Chaser-KeiTruckUrbanist 2 жыл бұрын
Line 6 is an tram, line 4 is a subway
@krisholly3503
@krisholly3503 4 ай бұрын
As of 2023, the Shanghai Metro has 20 operational lines: Line 1 (opened in 1993) Line 2 (opened in 1999) Line 3 (opened in 2000) Line 4 (opened in 2005) Line 5 (opened in 2003) Line 6 (opened in 2007) Line 7 (opened in 2009) Line 8 (opened in 2007) Line 9 (opened in 2007) Line 10 (opened in 2010) Line 11 (opened in 2009) Line 12 (opened in 2013) Line 13 (opened in 2010) Line 14 (opened in 2021) Line 15 (opened in 2021) Line 16 (opened in 2013) Line 17 (opened in 2017) Line 18 (opened in 2020) Pujiang Line (opened in 2018, automated people mover line) Maglev Line (opened in 2002, high-speed maglev train)
@gastonpalavicino8827
@gastonpalavicino8827 2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about the 3 way system that existed in 1966 until it was scrapped....now my question is - what would happen had the closed down 3rd line remained (Bloor-University-Yonge) open, would new stations appear out of it, would Wilson Station even exist, or Finch, or Kipling ?? - Only in an alternate reality, Lower Bay is still alive and running.....
@OscarWaiCN
@OscarWaiCN 2 жыл бұрын
WELL DONE, BUT HOW ABOUT TTC STREETCAR?
@noopyy6775
@noopyy6775 4 ай бұрын
This shouldve already been there and needed to cover the whole GTA!!
@blxvkpxndx
@blxvkpxndx 2 жыл бұрын
Wow you did my city 😍 can you do Montreal?
@railfanner2015
@railfanner2015 2 ай бұрын
They should rename the Kipling line 5 to Kipling north and Islington to Islington North
@lolololololololi8269
@lolololololololi8269 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do Hanoi next please? I subed
@KaplaWorld
@KaplaWorld 2 жыл бұрын
Toronto TTC Line 1 1954 Line 2 1966 Line 3 (2030) 1985 Line 4 2002 Line 5 2023 Line 6 2023
@DarrylErickson
@DarrylErickson 2 жыл бұрын
Line 4 expansion ideas: I’m thinking instead of east to Sheppard east, they actually should continue it down one station to Scarborough centre after Sheppard east, just to avoid people having to switch lines just to go ONE stop on line 2. (A lot of people on line 4 going east are probably headed to Scarborough centre) Also, the extension west should go farther than Sheppard west. All the way to Weston road I’d propose.
@michaelh7518
@michaelh7518 Жыл бұрын
There are more destinations on Ellesmere east of Scarborough Centre, which is also a transit hub and major destination, so you are correct that it should turn to STC. Sheppard Ave W does not have much West of Downsview Park and ends at Weston. Sheppard east of Scarborough Centre, west of Downsview could use BRT and signal priority. It should go to Sheppard W Stn, Downsview Park station for GO Barrie line connection, and Finch West for Finch West line. One transfer across north Toronto. I actually wish Finch West could be subway to eventually be part of Sheppard line for a continuous trip across the north end.
@TheRandCrews
@TheRandCrews 10 ай бұрын
I’d like to see Sheppard extend onto Jane, if they ever plan a rapid transit line on that corridor after the cancellation of the LRT. Good candidate for a western expansion of the Ontario line
@Gabo-kit
@Gabo-kit 2 жыл бұрын
In the video of the Mexico City subway, it is missing to put the expansions towards 203
@ohmygeeve
@ohmygeeve Жыл бұрын
bursted out laughing when the Ellington line was drawn
@pbasswil
@pbasswil Жыл бұрын
Yikes, all the branches feed the Yonge line as if it were the 'trunk'. That's a lot of pressure on one single line to central downtown. It'd be great if they could swing the west end of the Ontario line back north to intersect with 2 and 5, giving those two an alternative route downtown.
@adminboy4657
@adminboy4657 2 жыл бұрын
Yooooooo let’s go Keelesdale is gonna be very close to me
@arunservatius8804
@arunservatius8804 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what software they would have used to make the animation for this video?
@Miniweet9167
@Miniweet9167 2 ай бұрын
Its unfathomable for a city this big and wealthy to see how much time it took (almost 70 years) to actually serve the downtown core with more than 1 line. Pathetic.
@vexmarchi4449
@vexmarchi4449 4 ай бұрын
would love 2 see a video like this for UK
@KHasan-de6yq
@KHasan-de6yq 4 ай бұрын
Good luck with the timeline
@djsiii4737
@djsiii4737 2 жыл бұрын
You should've shown the original Eglinton subway line that started construction in the 90s but was stopped and closed up thanks to the Conservatives at the time.
@daydreamer8662
@daydreamer8662 2 жыл бұрын
It was the Mayor Coke Sniffer, Rob Ford. He actually paid money to fill in the dug tunnels instead of just leaving them there
@angusb99
@angusb99 2 жыл бұрын
Boston sometime soon? Just added new stations on the Green Line!
@ronsmith4325
@ronsmith4325 Жыл бұрын
Still feels like most of this, apart from the stuff up into Vaughan and Richmond hill is at least a good decade or more behind. Glad to finally see some progress though.
@lennywatchesstuff
@lennywatchesstuff 10 ай бұрын
you are missing the go trains (s bahn). we are NOT decades behind. By 2030 we actually have a great system for Toronto’s size
@dominicrobertson7626
@dominicrobertson7626 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone fill me in as to why line 3 is planned to be closed?
@davidbrowne3761
@davidbrowne3761 2 жыл бұрын
It uses a technology different from the rest of the system and the vehicles have reached the end of their useful Life
@shawnpitman876
@shawnpitman876 2 жыл бұрын
Ever had to rely on line 3? It's not very reliable.
@sambitdas44
@sambitdas44 2 жыл бұрын
Is there no plan for eglington LRT east extension
@cartermi4883
@cartermi4883 2 жыл бұрын
Please Do One For Vancouver
@notspectacularsam10
@notspectacularsam10 3 ай бұрын
When will they connect Sheppard-Yonge with Finch West
@thebangsfamily8955
@thebangsfamily8955 Жыл бұрын
I have a question to ask is the line 3 closing in 2023 or 2030 is that true hope you answer.
@2002ChevyFan
@2002ChevyFan 2 жыл бұрын
Vancouver next please.
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