This Baptiste proves Elo Hell is REAL. DPS Only... I lost all hope.

[@MetroOW]

Btw if it was not clear enough in the video, I refuse to believe the second guy is actually in Bronze 5. It looks more like a gold/plat game and I think the guy tried to get me with a "gotcha" moment and reveals he's actually plat after I call him bronze.

[@yahia5476]

Right, Bronze 5 is rock bottom, I'd argue that the entire lobby wasn't bronze 5

[@MetroOW]

@@jordanyzapata1878 I would like to think I'm pretty good at guessing the SR with all the replays I have watched, I've seen lots of Bronze games but this is not one of those, unless it's the best Bronze lobby ever. Gold would be my number 1 guess aswell!

[@seanjohnston565]

​@jordanyzapata1878 lol, that lost child description fits everyone up until low/mid plat. Even in diamond, you have some, especially as of season 5, for some reason.

[@Kikothebean]

@@jordanyzapata1878that’s why it’s gold when I start getting mad in masters I go to my second acc in gold to feel better 😂

[@AdvancedGamingYT]

POV: You watched Awkward but only heard the "damage damage damage" part.

[@sh1rom1su]

where's the off angle and saving ur teammates when they're in danger of dying 😢

[@AdvancedGamingYT]

@@sh1rom1su Or the healing, despite what most people think he does tell you to heal.

[@josephquinto5812]

@@AdvancedGamingYT He definitely damages too much during the peak of the fight. A lot of his play reminds me of myself when the team is up 5v3 lol

[@BeeDee-e3v]

awkwards stance is damage>healing but healing is more important than damage meaning that you get the most value from your damage and cooldowns (pressure on the enemy team) but the most important thing you're doing is healing. (keeping your team from dying) also a lot of what hes says is mainly meant to healbot supports who just heal all game and get ran through because the enemy has less pressure being put on them

[@thuggwaffle8825]

The whole damage vs healing thing honestly should vary with your mechanical abilities.. For a guy like awkward that’s cracked out of his mind of course he’s gonna hit his shots.. So there’s really no risk of potential wasted value by him DPS’ing.. But for your average gold player that will hit half or less the amount of shots awkward hits it’s definitely better to just keep your teammates alive while getting damage off where you can comfortably..

[@Gordo525]

Awkward literally always says "Heal your teammates enough so that they don't die, then look for damage.". That order is important because if your team is healthy then you have the time to spend damaging, if your team is dying and you spend your time damaging then you're just going to get rolled. The problem is that people will healbot when their team takes chip damage, and those are the times when you should be damaging as a support. Especially on Bap where you can weave heals and damage.

[@khaledm.1476]

If you're 5v4 damage doesn't matter as much just support your team and they will roll them, 4v5 you would look for a pick off while keeping your team up. Always think about what will bring the most value, that bap in the first game ulting to kill 5v2 killing noone and dying is so stupid. All you need to do is just play cart and heal a bit and they will die. There's times to being proactive and times to just chill, you need to know which is which

[@wusaint]

I love Awkward and have watched a bunch of his unranked to GM. Unfortunately, I think too many people dont watch what he's actually doing and only hear "damage". I actually made the same mistake myself after watching his Brig unranked to GM. What you should take away from Awkward is going to where the damage is! Too many lower ELO support players sit in the backline and healbot. You'd be surprised just how much more effective your team will be if you are actively in the fight. I'm not saying try to take a tank on 1v1 but supporting your team during fights is what makes the difference. Sounds like common sense yet few actually do this. They take it to extremes by either hard DPSing or healbotting. Plus reading the field is probably the most important part of being a good support.

[@khaledm.1476]

I mean if you're damaging as brig your healing is also high as a consequence. Don't die too often pay attention to key enemies and critical allies or if your a bit smarter allies you know will die next. I can tell which ally is going to die in the next 10s and which wont so I focus the person I know will die if I don't support them. They could even be full hp but I know they're taking an aggressive angle and will soak up the damage right now

[@phineas1112]

Unranked to gm is kinda bullshit, when you start a new account and win in placements and low elo, you get placed with better teammates to play in higher elos. The problem here is, a "normal account" already has some losts from the past and when you reach diamond/master, you will get placed with worse teammates who doesn't care to throw the game, sometimes even leavers.

[@khaledm.1476]

@@phineas1112 I think even in unranked to gms they get feeding freddies and throwers, they don't have to deal with those people as much because they win most games anyway. I think U2GM is mostly useful for quickly seeing the best rotations and ways to play a character in every map. Do you know how long it would take to get that information from watching streams or regular videos. This is much more condensed and even has time stamps

[@wusaint]

@@phineas1112 I'd like to see a bronze to GM lol

[@DNYLNY]

So many support players feel that healing is inefficient or beneath them. I see it constantly on internet forums and support streamers who take offense at being called a healer. But Bap is the ONLY support hero that can damage and heal at the same time and not lose any DPS so there is NO excuse not to heal with Bap. You can literally hold down right click for free heals while shooting someone.

[@mathiaschristensen1194]

Zen also doesn't lose dps healing, so that's not entirely true, nor does Lucio on a lot of cases come to think, though ideally you'll be speed boosting when dpsing so I guess that's up for debate.

[@slump8665]

also kiriko follows this rule

[@wusaint]

​@@slump8665was gonna say the same thing about Kiri. I play her flow very similar to how I play Bap. Throw your healing out, two kunai, and repeat. Same thing with Bap. Fire off two shots, fire a heal shot, and repeat. Both of them can and should fill the time it takes between healing with damage. You lose no healing by doing this.

[@wusaint]

​@@mathiaschristensen1194Zen and Lucio aren't exactly the same. Neither are main healer. I understand what you're saying with Zen because you should have both orbs active at all time and rotating them as needed is extremely important. Lucio...ehhhhh....dude is just different. Prime objective is to facilitate movement and peel when needed. I barely even think of healing when I play Lucio. Not saying I don't heal but let's be honest his healing isn't gonna save the day. If the fight is that on edge I just amp speed and get the hell out of Dodge.

[@mathiaschristensen1194]

@@wusaint Oh I'm fully aware of the difference between flex support and main support, I was just pointing out that Bap wasn't the only support who could maintain both.

[@therebelfrogy9287]

Awkward: "Damage damage damage" and "heal teammates so they don't die" Low elo players for some reason: Damage damage damage Everyone: Blame Awkward for teaching wrong Huh???

[@MetroOW]

Yes, this is not Akwards fault, just everyone missunderstanding him.

[@windy8544]

@@MetroOW if everyone's misunderstanding him, then he is teaching wrong

[@MetroOW]

@@windy8544 Okay, the "everyone" part was an overexaggeration. It does feel like people watch the gameplay where he has to 1v5 hardcarry, they see him mostly DPS and think thats the only way to win their games. There are almost unwinnable games for everyone but he does mention healing being an essential part of Baps gameplay.

[@button9]

That's the thing about lower level play. It took me a while to figure this out, but 9/10 times you have to play healbot in lower levels because your team doesn't understand positioning and cover. While you should attempt to play higher level gamestyle, know your limits and team limits

[@deathknight6914]

As a support main, it just pains me to see how many people he let die that he could have prevented. In my opinion, the only thing that matters as support is backing up the team and dying as little as possible.

[@DjNaste]

Dying as little as possible yes, backing up your team not so much.

[@keyzze6068]

@@DjNaste huh? The point of dying as little as possible is to allow for continued SuPpOrtInG of the team aka backing them up. You were joking right? Right ?

[@DjNaste]

@keyzze6068 No, the point of dying as little as possible is to maximize the amount of value you can output by minimizing your downtime.

[@keyzze6068]

@@DjNaste yes exactly. And your value as a support is backing up the team

[@DjNaste]

@keyzze6068 sure, sometimes, but it is wrong to default to that mindset. There are tons of ways to get value. Exerting pressure, baiting cooldowns, creating off-angles, taking space. These are some things that should be done by every role in the game, which is why it's bad to make statements like "supports job is to back up their team," because it's not. Every role should be backing up their team. Support just has the unique ability to also heal people, which is part of their job, but certainly not their only job.

[@honestlywhatever]

naah if you lose FIFTY games in a row after watching awkward you 1000% didn't hear what he was saying lmfaooooo

[@xBonnie_]

I was having a bad day and didn't feel like doing anything today but these videos always make me feel better. (:

[@MetroOW]

I'm glad I can make your day a tiny bit better :)

[@lurker7779]

It's always a small highlight for me when you upload this series. Keep it up!

[@shotwithchris4357]

They hear, “damage damage damage” but forget that he’s taking an off angle or generally in a good position

[@khaledm.1476]

they forget he is not letting his team die for no reason, there's a difference between someone you can't save and someone you didn't bother to save

[@thuggwaffle8825]

One thing I’ve definitely noticed in “Overwatch 2” is that for whatever reason friendly players don’t respond to the killfeed as much as they used to.. Back in the day as soon as one team got the first pick in a fight everyone would just ape onto the enemy team.. Now there are so many times I get first pick on sombra or soldier and nobody even reacts to it or pushes point at all.. It’s like people are playing without their killfeed display on.. I’m in masters 2 and if it’s a problem in masters I can’t imagine how bad the awareness is in bronze.. Or maybe it’s the fact that there’s one less player now so you don’t feel the presence like you used to idk

[@khaledm.1476]

I just Yell "KILL, KILL, KILL" into my vc to unleash the ape mode in my teammates. Because sometimes my tank is a pussy

[@sonkie4974]

This starts from silver to plat. In bronze players actually want to get higher rank they do eventually men I have no hope for tanks in this game everything counter tank.

[@TristanJ1984]

The second replay had me malding cause on at least two occasions he fed the zarya 40 charge for free

[@Soft_Ghost]

There is some solace in knowing that support who play like this does drop all the way to bronze5.

[@morninggloryow]

Thing about Awkward is…he doesn’t say “Hard DPS”, he says, “Heal your team when they need healing” and “Don’t heal for the sake of it”, They don’t hear that part and just go “DPS IS GOOD”, Heal as much as your team needs, damage when your able too!

[@something9318]

mfs acting like immortality field is a whole spawn room 😭😭🙏🙏

[@keyzze6068]

On console the double left click then right click is easy. Just hold both at the same time and it does it for you. Using his boots is a fking pain in the ass tho

[@Nuggetard]

I thought that intro was a mobile game ad at first

[@Sumanitu]

Bro watched Frogger dodge a widow by wiggling backwards like that, and thought he could do that as Bap 😂

[@seanjohnston565]

Awkward doesn't want you to only use damage. He wants you to have an impact on the game with pressure and cooldowns. If you healbot, you might as well one trick Lifeweaver, as they have the highest single target healing in the game right now, but the reason why LW is not good is that their damage and cooldowns have low impact compared to other supports. Keep your team up first and formost, pocket who you think is going to get value now, or who is going to be a target in a second, and then fight for the ability economy, while using damage to force cooldowns and mistakes out of your opponents.

[@pauljmorton]

I'm only a puny gold player so what the hell do I actually know, but my experience with "carrying" is that whenever I go into a match thinking that I'll carry the game, I end up losing that match and the next few matches too. But when I go into a match just to play some innocent Overwatch, I get back on the winning track. So my experience is that "carry" is a detrimental mindset. :D

[@vasco0014]

I actually learned this by watching vigilante and shu i saw that they had way better stats and i was strugling to have those stats bcs i was focusing too much on dpsing and missing many shots while my team was getting absolutely destroyed now i do more dmage and heal ig plying and prticing aim helped that too

[@samo2585]

The awkward fans' playing style, lol. This Baptiste is a huge awkward fan. Awkward influenced an evil selfish Baptistes

[@BobOrKlaus]

6:00 i thought he LOSd the lamp first lmao

[@tturskaa]

Same lol

[@m1sara17]

Love the video tho it’s so funny , my favorites are the Genji when the power ranger music comes on during his ult . Shit is soooo funny

[@jozuLMAO]

As a support main, i cant comfortably play while seeing my teammates at critical health.

[@MetroOW]

Akward has been a bad influence on Bap players...

[@moleedaboi]

No

[@cloudstrife9188]

I feel like it's most support players. His unranked to gm on moria was just as bad

[@Lucas.ufsc96]

Moira and kiriko too

[@tturskaa]

Bruh ain't no way this dude is master 3 I was master 3 on supp maining bap a couple of days ago (dropped to m5 after going 5-11🥲 and had a knee surgery so haven't played much) and I haven't even watched the whole video and I have screamed multiple times "HEAL UR TEAM" or "USE UR LAMP". Looks like plat/dia gameplay

[@hailongpham3112]

remove the aim and I would say this is low gold/silver at best tbh

[@therebelfrogy9287]

Rank Inflation is real. Every ranks above Gold doesn't have the same value like they did in OW1 anymore

[@tturskaa]

@@therebelfrogy9287 yeah that's true personally I think that I'm actually not a masters dps and support player but like a high diamond

[@MetroOW]

Rankings in OW are innaccurate rn, don't base your skill on your rank, it's a joke.

[@seanburrell8159]

There’s no way he ever plays with Bap. This is definitely plat Bap gameplay

[@Profes24]

10:05 Bro i can't 😂🤣🤣🤣

[@DerUli1998]

for real i deranked last season on my worst role and ended 4 w and 15 l. but i think it can be happen i did overall round about 400 games in ow2. but wehn you have a 57 games loseingstreak its 100% on you

[@praisedsquishy]

Just carried a gm dps who fell to low plat, perhaps a 56 game loss streak? I was flamed by him for playing moira when i had most damage.

[@ditchfood8047]

Bro, sometimes I look at these videos and wonder what's the difference is between my gold game play and masters. Or just how these dudes got passed plat.

[@bran4457]

Another case of Overwatch players not knowing how to contextualize stats; this should be good.

[@m1sara17]

Im watching awkwards video and in the first 5 minutes I see exactly why they play like that . Issue is ur team has to have a mercy and has to be capable to play so selfishly . But they can honestly play soldier and do the EXACT same thing with built in heals and all

[@wendeez2845]

second guy legit didn't know regen burst heals teammates too, threw so much bc of that >:(

[@romomento973]

i had this dps kiriko that had 720 healing because she didnt wanna heal i think she was trolling but when i asked her to heal she replied no and we lossed ;)

[@armando5994]

as a kiriko main those dps kiriko’s that don’t heal are so lost, yes healbotting is bad but you could literally carry a game with how strong kiriko’s heals are

[@S3LFM3LT]

First bap prooved elo hell is real for his trammates. Poor rein couldn't even utilize his ult. I hate when supports do that and then say they uave the highest stats. Smh

[@Rudysetgo1819]

I wonder if his team complained and he responds with "cry bro"?

[@_xmj]

this is masters??

[@Kryptic245]

This is why these top 500 streamers need to stop telling people support is better DPS than actual DPS because all it did was make a bunch of DPS players, who have no desire to help their team, jump onto support in order to DPS better.

[@Gusik]

Wait... that Bap is Masters??? How, what... wtf. He was letting everyone die, not using cooldowns. His aim was ass 😮😮 how is this Masters.

[@evilynx0]

how is this guy with that aim in Masters

[@meez5824]

How is this bap a masters player 💀

[@ve_rb]

10:10 pog

[@VLMNTI]

The first review, that guy should honestly just queue DPS. He has the aggressive playstyle that would have more value on DPS than Support. A Support player that cannot find a balance between healing and damage shouldn't queue for Support to begin with. You can carry and deal top damage all you want but if the opposing team has the slight advantage of more consistent heals, it'll enable their Tank and DPS to do their jobs more often and therefore clutch more wins vs the team with a DPS Baptiste and a damn Brig for heals. Streets don't wanna hear it but Awkward's advice is creating bad Support players. Not saying the advice is objectively wrong but if all people take from it is "damage, damage, damage", then the message isn't getting through correctly.

[@zendakk]

In your opinion, why did Blizzard make ranking up easier in OW2? I've seen and played with/against so many players who would have been a good 1k to 2k sr lower just a year ago. Is it some instant gratification offer to make people feel better and continue to buy battlepasses and skins.. I mean.. play? In the end, elo is a self-regulating mechanism, this doesn't make sense at all.

[@ToSwiftyyy]

I would never lose 57 straight because I would’ve uninstalled by then

[@Jay_758]

Shit like this gives support mains like me a bad rap....I know what it's like to not get heals and get rolled so I make sure everyone is topped of before I decide to start shooting the enemy...shot is sad people say like this

[@Don_Madera]

I definitely believe in elo hell but it's typically due to ego players, rage quitters, and also people who actually refuse to use support skills as support. This dude's playstyle is a lot more common now.

[@hardstep1177]

Elo hells not real bro

[@DNYLNY]

I

[@MetroOW]

[@maxoo2385]

Very new yet Master ? wtf is wrong with me then

[@TRACTOOOOOOOOOR]

Damage damage damage

[@praetorianplays]

I don't understand how the first game is Masters... It's too bad everyone thinks this game is just stats.

[@MetroOW]

Cuz OW Matchmaking is horribly inaccurate.

[@tortue_]

Didnt kiss me live 0/10 streamer

[@bulgrim7650]

Can you also mention that just because you have a gold weapon depending on you character skin choice you will stand out like a sore thumb and also having it doesn’t mean that your special and your the reason you win all the time its cool but no play correctly and win or play for yourself because you want to have high stats sorry this isn’t COD 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@hakonv8642]

Nice

[@praisedsquishy]

Better to que support to play dps because dps is a 5-10 minute que to play a worse version of the game.

[@sattux]

Ayo Metro!

[@RayJames-mk3yq]

He's masters 3 with very mediocre aim, this proves damage damage damage is good actually and climbs you to high ranks. Masters 3 is very high ranked, top 3%. Damage damage damage. This video would make more sense dunking on this guy if he was silver.

[@MetroOW]

All this proves is that the matchmaking is broken, I getg plat level players that are in GM every single day.

[@michaelcaldwell6901]

Anyone stuck with bad heal/damage balance taking notes ✍️

[@patricklim5956]

Unranked to GM is not a good educational video.... Why? Because those videos are made by players who ALREADY has the mechanics. Real unranked players dont have those mechanics yet, so giving them the impression that it can be done in just a few hours is not realistic for new players.

[@hanzfit1999]

Hi metro

[@MetroOW]

Hi

[@IronfistedPriest]

amazing how little of awareness this "masters" bap has. 100% lookes like mid gold

[@m1sara17]

Awkward is the Andrew Tate of supports 😭

[@valkyrie2832]

Nah he gives good advice, people just misinterpret it. He does encourage lots of damage but also repeatedly says to not let your team die. His message is more about not healbotting and healing your team when they don’t need it, not full on dpsing all the time like these baps. He’s definitely not the perfect support player or anything, but saying that isn’t warranted. Following his advice has made me a much better Ana and Bap. You just have to actually listen to what he’s saying and not just hear “damage damage damage” and dps.

[@mr.anglemayor8047]

Boi, are you German? 😅 Or what is that accent?

[@jlowe8059]

Kinda surprised this is Bronze 5. I mean, its bad gameplay, but Bronze 5 games ive seen are much worse than this.

[@frozenfury0]

Dude thinks he has knows how to play support because he uses healing pad. /s

[@MetroOW]

still more healing than the guy in this video LOL

[@frozenfury0]

@@MetroOW 😂

[@sonkie4974]

Men awkward is really good but idk why whatever he says we know it but don't use it then damage this is emotional damage for tank players. I don't even want to play tank now.

[@harveydent706]

Such selfish supports ...