Metropolis - Marxist Theory | Renegade Cut

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6 жыл бұрын

How does Metropolis use (and misuse) the theory of class conflict as espoused by Karl Marx? Support Renegade Cut Media through Patreon: / renegadecut
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@krashkow
@krashkow 6 жыл бұрын
Worth noting: The writer of Metropolis, Thea von Harbou, became a member of the Nazi Party and the film is very much reflective of fascist politics. Fascism, despite being ideologically opposed to communism, is keenly aware of class conflict and seeks to head it off by bringing the classes into alignment under the joined concepts of ethnic/racial identity and the Nation State. Metropolis discredits the revolution of the workers by portraying it as stoked by an "outside agitator" (Rotwang literally translates to "Red Cheek" in German) and suggesting that, though their conditions should be improved, they should not fundamentally challenge the power structure of Metropolis. Lang, very much not a Nazi, would later call Metropolis a "fairy tale" and that he himself was not very politically minded when he made it. Stylistically, Metropolis is indeed a Masterpiece. But under the hood, where its ideology lives? Yeah, it has some problems.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! When I was watching that part about the handshake of the classes I thought: "Wait, that sounds a lot like the idea of the Volkskörper of the Nazis: The body of the people in which everybody is (= has to) be playing their part and nobody will (= is allowed to) complain." In Bertold Brecht's "The song of the class enemy" there is this one line refering to the rise of the Nazis: "...and many of us said: 'There is no class enemy anylonger' ", because that's exactly what the Nazis wanted them to believe.
@Mogget01
@Mogget01 4 жыл бұрын
Hitler apparently loved the movie and used a bit of the terminology and rhetoric from it when forming his ideology, since the movie was firmly in the German zeitgeist while he was rising to power.
@NightmareLyra
@NightmareLyra 6 жыл бұрын
Since I keep seeing this referred to as an indisputable flawless masterpiece it's refreshing seeing a more nuanced take on it. I find it important to realize that all classic masterpieces can still have flaws and are worth discussing so we don't just all turn into parrots or something.
@danman1950
@danman1950 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the flaws are why we love something so much. The most iconic moments in film are sometimes ad-libbed, accidents, and are definitely not planned for. I think people consider things Masterpieces because they are willing to overlook flaws and feel deeply connected to a work of art.
@devinbell4816
@devinbell4816 6 жыл бұрын
ltflak, Most film critics, professors, and all around cinephiles I've come across hold it in pretty high regard. The recent restoration of the film was successful. It is the closest thing to Lang's vision. Only three minutes or so were left out because the footage was so badly damaged.
@symmetricasymmetric9154
@symmetricasymmetric9154 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people consider Metropolis a masterpiece. It doesn't need to be a (massive) success to be considered a masterpiece, all it's need is to be good. And Metropolis is really good, for this reason the most of people who saw the movie, consider it a masterpiece. Also, directors/ writer/ producers who actually saw, at the time and even after WWII, they mostly where influenced by it.
@brettcoster4781
@brettcoster4781 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite films, evidently also Hitler's but I suspect for different reasons. In general I agree with your reading of the movie, the resolution through Freder/Maria seemed wrong headed, especially with all the religious iconography involved, very top down. And the foreman definitely was in a privileged position too, not really representing the other workers, a class traitor you could say. I've always thought, too, that Hitler completely missed the point of the movie; the character whose philosophy seemed closest to his was Rotwang, who wanted to sow chaos between the capitalists and the workers through robot-Maria. Very nihilistic. But the visuals, the cityscapes and workplaces, the mouth of Baal and especially where Maria gets copied by the robot-Maria are all terrific, and have been very influential from Frankenstein to Blade Runner and beyond. A truly great movie. Definitely think this is a movie that will provoke discussion and different readings for at least another 90 years. Many thanks.
@alvazquez9844
@alvazquez9844 6 жыл бұрын
Funny, I was thinking that the main protagonist being someone from the upper class uniting the two felt disingenuous. Once I learned about Marxist Theory in Speech and Ideology in High School, I didn't make the connection until now. Watching your video changed on how I view the film. Though I have to ask about the robot/lady=fake messiah (using messiah in the loosest term) plot. The man who created the bot was not exactly poor, just hair brained, yet I never understood what the accomplishment of that entire plot thread was about. Is it something I havent catched from my first viewing or is it something from the lost footage?
@grooveyerbouti
@grooveyerbouti 2 жыл бұрын
I read it as vengeance as Rotwang worshipped Hel and blames Fredrics father for her death, subverting his plan into accomplishing his revenge by killing Fredric and stripping the father of both power and future heirs,he fails and attempts good old fashioned murder. Just my interpretation of that narrative part.
@limelightraver5690
@limelightraver5690 6 жыл бұрын
Ah Metropolis One of my favorite science-fiction films a silent movie classic, I love the story
@christinapeterson8210
@christinapeterson8210 4 жыл бұрын
I think this movie as more of a timeless critique of greed and hubris, although I agree with you that the movie does naively assume that the answer to social warfare is a savior from the elite class who understands the plight of the Proletariat and can so unite the two in harmony. I still like the message of the importance and power of empathy though.
@ninaj6051
@ninaj6051 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Freder is the perfect Prince Charming IMO. I fell in love with the actor/role immediately as I saw it for the first time. It made me obsess over a man who was born 100 years before me and died 5 years before it, too. But, his lines and scenes made me have butterflies in my belly. I still think he's the most beautiful male celebrity to exist in the last century. Thea Von Harbou cast him just because of that, because of how beautiful he looked, and she was only more of a genius for that. :D
@janiuskokovic310
@janiuskokovic310 6 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the most intelligent readings of the Metropolis movie i've seen so far, great job Renegade Cut! I actually had the pleasure of seeing Metropolis at a local theatre in 2013. Thanks and happy New Year! :)
@danman1950
@danman1950 6 жыл бұрын
To me this seems like the kind of movie a social democrat, of the European and American variety, would be happy with. Generally, its seen that the mediators of the capitalist system have to be left-wing parties. Via social welfare, allowing the existence of unions and corporations, and heavy regulations on both as to make sure neither upset the "capitalist system with a human face". In fact, in German history, the very first welfare laws were enacted by Ottoman Von Bismark in the mid-1800s in order to quell any unrest and prevent Socialist parties from getting powerful. But just like in Metropolis, it doesn't really address any central issues of poverty. I remember a few years ago when the left wing party SYRIZA was elected in Greece, and they promised to bring an end to the massive financial spiral that Greece had been in for years. But that didn't happen, and Greece has worse austerity problems than before, with some fascists thrown in there as well. To me, Metropolis is a depiction of social systems from a liberal point of view. It's important to be open to many different perspectives on the world. You don't have to agree with them, or even acknowledge they ought to exist, but it's only to understand another viewpoint.
@ConnerNielsen6
@ConnerNielsen6 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry you didn’t care much for Metropolis. It’s one of my favorite movies and I commissioned this episode. :(
@balkybutakomus5463
@balkybutakomus5463 6 жыл бұрын
Conner Nielsen you should be proud it’s a great topic and video and thanks for commissioning it!
@mikeroadblock
@mikeroadblock 3 жыл бұрын
What does it mean to you then?
@sithofdarkness8927
@sithofdarkness8927 3 жыл бұрын
To me I left enjoying the composition of the overall film and the amazing set design, but thematically, Renegade Cut hit all of the points worth criticizing, although they take it a bit better than I do. I'd go so far as to say the class collaborationist aspects seeming approving of a corporatist, fascistic viewpoint, given the rest of the film is mired in the occult, a view of the working class as without any actual leader, being rendered useless without one, and the leader being rendered useless without the workers. These two forces are parts of a machine that should be screwed in to keep the functioning of a well ordered society, without the meddling of a "deviant" hermit inventor establishing the ruin of this society, as Rotwing is entirely trying to undermine the founder of the society. This film is not a fascist movie, however the themes it evokes can be construed into that narrative, to me.
@rjfrantzen3411
@rjfrantzen3411 5 жыл бұрын
An interesting analysis of a famous film. My contribution is to call attention to the use of montage in the Russian style as shown in the film in most of your clips. Sergei Eisenstein produced the "Battleship Potemkin" in 1922. His montage of the Odessa steps is a classic of the form and I certainly see echoes of it in your production. Eisenstein stated that "montage is the dialectic of film." The script of Metropolis was begun in 1924 and the effective use of montage had perhaps a dual meaning.
@jonathankent1517
@jonathankent1517 5 жыл бұрын
I always preferred the Osamu Tezuka version myself.
@niccobaratti4230
@niccobaratti4230 4 жыл бұрын
The message I got from it was one of "class collaboration", which is a kind of euphemism thrown around in Fascist/Capitalist (and naively taken at face value by Liberals/moderates) circles that effectively meant workers should stop complaining, not unionise, lick their bosses' boots and be honoured for the privilege to do so.
@EmirPasanovic
@EmirPasanovic 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, why did you put a shot of a Sarajevo street at night at the 1:18 mark??? I did not expect to see my home city in a video about Metropolis, did you visit us recently? Would love to meet up if you ever come this way again, and then you can find the French bandes desinee about the making of Metropolis that was drawn by two Sarajevans.
@xax888servo7
@xax888servo7 2 жыл бұрын
You're are not wrong about the naivete, but I still love this movie for visual and technical reasons
@liviolangella2777
@liviolangella2777 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like this movie was the one who created the ‘Final battle on a church’ trope.
@BadInfluenceMan
@BadInfluenceMan 6 жыл бұрын
I always read the film stating the revolt as wrong in part because it seems like the rioters don't want to unseat the corrupt power so much as they want to pull down everything. You said it yourself; humans can't survive in the wilderness, and the flooding of the undercity would seem to be that fact illustrated in the film.
@jackdobbyn7248
@jackdobbyn7248 6 жыл бұрын
You do this very well... I love how you introduce philosophical and theological theory with film critique. Do you have a classics background? Keep it up and if you find a way to explain Juche that would be awesome!
@jackdobbyn7248
@jackdobbyn7248 6 жыл бұрын
Also do you like Rob Ager? You guys are both great but different and it works
@jackdobbyn7248
@jackdobbyn7248 6 жыл бұрын
Renegade Cut educate me? I watched a couple of his vids... might have missed something big. Didn’t mean any offense.
@royalblood9381
@royalblood9381 3 ай бұрын
Well this was one scary ass movie , especially when the robot woman was dancing.
@aaron9797
@aaron9797 6 жыл бұрын
i read that as matrix theory
@DrIzixs
@DrIzixs 6 жыл бұрын
A powerful ruling class exploits a class of people for the purposes of power generation... And in the end it ends in some sort of weird truce that doesn't really resolve the long term consequences of the failed revolution/counter revolution conflict... And christ imagery, ect. Yeah there are a couple parallels between The Matrix and Metropolis there.
@Lexivor
@Lexivor 6 жыл бұрын
I'd watch a movie about linear algebra.
@patrickmann3123
@patrickmann3123 6 жыл бұрын
Need to watch this again.
@marcouellette4671
@marcouellette4671 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis. This made me a fan of your.
@sena167
@sena167 6 жыл бұрын
I loved this video! Never saw this movie like that.
@umusuuk
@umusuuk 6 жыл бұрын
Good 101, but I wish your usual rigor for research would have lead to a small Marxist bibliography at the end. There is a lot of Marxist analysis of film; partly because of the early days of the Soviet Union and their love for film, and partly because a lot of us are just nerds.
@user-gj8qx5uo3l
@user-gj8qx5uo3l 6 жыл бұрын
love that sonata
@ForensicHistorian
@ForensicHistorian 4 ай бұрын
This is very good.
@user-xn9kd5lm8v
@user-xn9kd5lm8v 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo.
@kalashnikov1997
@kalashnikov1997 6 жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see a true Marxist critique of this movie. Thank you.
@theomccann8047
@theomccann8047 6 жыл бұрын
seize the means of production
@LovecraftianToenail
@LovecraftianToenail 6 жыл бұрын
Dorothy DeCann or if that's not possible, I'd settle for the memes.
@HannibalHanslaughter
@HannibalHanslaughter 6 жыл бұрын
eat the rich
@yoannfleytoux5917
@yoannfleytoux5917 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video ! Really like your critics that touch leftists topics.
@vicm5272
@vicm5272 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis although love the movie
@HannibalHanslaughter
@HannibalHanslaughter 6 жыл бұрын
How is this movie so beautiful
@fanime1
@fanime1 6 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. While I did study this in school, it's rare to see anyone discuss the faults of the film. Yes I still enjoy the film, but it does oversimplify class conflict.
@MrBillcale
@MrBillcale 5 жыл бұрын
you forgot the church
@franksu9735
@franksu9735 3 жыл бұрын
Could AI save humanity?
@art-of-techno
@art-of-techno 2 жыл бұрын
I think with the handshake at the end, Fritz Lang unconsciously imagined Social Democracy or some form of what they call today in Germany Christian Democracy. The end message is clear, no matter how much suffering the workers endure, Capitalism still remains the norm.
@alejandrocastillo9209
@alejandrocastillo9209 29 күн бұрын
This movie predicted our current state of the world 100 years later.
@Not_So_Slim_Shady
@Not_So_Slim_Shady 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was always reccommended Metropolis as some glorious leftist anthem but I was really disappointed when I actually watched it.
@curiousworld7912
@curiousworld7912 6 жыл бұрын
Power to the people.
@Ishijah1
@Ishijah1 4 жыл бұрын
Is no other way of explaining without using marxist theory?
@bb1111116
@bb1111116 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video essay. I'll add that while it can seem that "Metropolis" is deifying the upper class, instead imo the film is implying that an upper class is inevitable. Revolution in the film is not the best option; better to reform the social structure than to try to violently over throw it. The details are not about trade unions but revolution as a warning. The film turns to psychology & morality. The Hands, Head & Heart; (ID, Superego & Ego) points to awareness/compassion to find resolution.
@casanovafunkenstein5090
@casanovafunkenstein5090 4 жыл бұрын
Were I to be in charge of remaking this film I would keep the iffy political messaging in place but at the climax of the film I'd cut away to an audience watching in dirty cinemas, squalid apartments and on polluted streets: revealing the whole thing to have been a propaganda film.
@artboy598
@artboy598 6 жыл бұрын
Just putting it out there: you don’t have to be “right wing” to be ideologically opposed to Marxism.
@vitormelomedeiros
@vitormelomedeiros 5 жыл бұрын
But you have to be a centrist, though.
@animationfanatic2133
@animationfanatic2133 6 жыл бұрын
I'm liking these videos discussing left wing theory keep up the good work
@SkyForgeVideos
@SkyForgeVideos 2 жыл бұрын
It's slavery.
@balkybutakomus5463
@balkybutakomus5463 6 жыл бұрын
9 hours without a single Reich troll; I am astonished and somehow saddened. I will reflect on my emptiness and hopefully become closer to the force.
@marilynmalone1381
@marilynmalone1381 6 жыл бұрын
Renegade Cut did you mean "no Nazis allowed"? In which case I agree
@marilynmalone1381
@marilynmalone1381 6 жыл бұрын
Coming from a Marxist position myself, this is a great analysis and I commend you for that opening remake about not caring to lose right wing twitter subscribers. Great work Leon.
@MrBillcale
@MrBillcale 5 жыл бұрын
heirarchy seems pretty natural though no?
@serahkonner
@serahkonner Жыл бұрын
Looks at cats what do cats act like
@greenvilleobserver9431
@greenvilleobserver9431 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a marxist in a capitalist body.
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