The Difference Between Socialism, Communism, and Marxism Explained by a Marxist

[@Patrickistheartist]

The difference in these terms should be taught in schools, especially the US

[@rollcaskett1812]

@@tylerfrederick650 I'm willing to give anything a try as long as it gets me far away from Donald Trump. That's what happens when you bully liberals for four years, you create first-time democratic voters.

[@amandaw6951]

What I was taught about thies subjects was that the government owns everything and no one has a say. And was so far from Karl Marx original ideas that they were twisted in to the strong arm tactics by the governments to make its citizens comply and surrender everything it appears that that is not true I guess what my teachers taught was not the correct definitions. Just a point of view, and opinions only not truth. Star trek the next generation is about as close to marks ideals. As they come. But I was also taught about anuther version of thies things too. That everyone was peaceful and equal no one was above our below anuther every one was equal and everyone had a say.but of course that kind of Communism or socialism is impossible because humans love greed power money and control and fear and want to be above instead of treating everybody equally so that is why the perfect society with no war nobody has more money than the other and peaceful and equal could never exist in this world. As much as we would love it to.

[@goodking9799]

@@tylerfrederick650 And if gov add more regulation, it will become communism?

[@DimitrisPsarelis]

@@tylerfrederick650 like in Cuba where illiteracy went from 40% to almost 0%.

[@DimitrisPsarelis]

@@tylerfrederick650 I thought you where talking on education. Where the literary rate went from 85 to 97 percent from 1981 to 2018. The economy of the country struggles cause of the US sanctions.

[@josephcross9684]

Sweden called, they said to stop calling them socialists.

[@25xxfrostxx]

Sweden says a lot of things. Like, "We're Neutral" in the late 1930's. Just because they say it, it doesn't make it true.

[@huejanus5505]

Insanitypepper There are no nordic socialist countries. They are all capitalist or market economies. Having a few social policies doesn't make a country socialist. Being or not being neutral 90ish years ago, has nothing to do with today.

[@droopy1343]

Sweden selling bofors licence like crazy xd

[@193]

@@huejanus5505 they are what bernie sanders is.

[@Old_Sailor85]

@@huejanus5505 How wrong you are. They are still bitching about Columbus and the other "white" explorers, even if they weren't all "white". That's 500 years ago, so 90 years ago is like yesterday.

[@foleygee]

the more i learn the less i understand

[@papaadwoa569]

Seriously 🤣

[@Cauks1]

@@derrick2181 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKbJeaKgoNR6qtk Its always easy to criticize the weak

[@shlomoivry1673]

Best comment here

[@ua1256]

lmaooo sorry man but this video couldn't be more clear, I think you may have a learning disability

[@arturintete2461]

Derrick survivor bias be like:

[@tripreporterofficial]

Props to the guy who made this when he pronounced the full nazi name in german without breaking a sweat

[@amarthon6597]

well, it wasn't perfect, but yes, it was pretty good

[@sergeykaplenko6534]

It is NSDAP National Socialist Deuchland (German) Arbeiten (Workers) Party In short NAZY.

[@oliversherman2414]

Let's be clear, the nazis were NOT socialist

[@theobolt250]

Na, donnerwetter! In ein fersuch fast richtig, aber nicht hundettprozentig. Negstes mal besser.

[@oliversherman2414]

@@tripreporterofficial the n@zis weren't actually socialist though

[@theinternetpolice2078]

"Capitalism is when lots of iphone. Socialism is when some iphone. Communism is when no iphone." -Karl Marx, 1960

[@renss2072]

“What I never said that” -Karl Marx 1961

[@jaydensko772]

@@renss2072 “he totally said that” -Aristotle 1962

[@bobskets8702]

"If you don't like communism you're not black" -Karl Marx probably

[@k9fangamvs53]

@@bobskets8702 "If you don't call everyone you don't like a marxist, You're not white." - Donald Trump

[@tasteslikeawesome]

Socialism is when no new iphone anymore

[@Diembee]

Oh boy do I love watching neutral and informative political content on the internet! I sure hope nothing wacky and uncharacteristic takes place in the comments section.

[@hyp3r-systems838]

ehhhhh it wasnt entirely "neutral" i got the weird sense this dood is fairly pro socialism and communism to some extent..

[@a12475]

@@hyp3r-systems838 he is, go to hell.

[@johnathanmandrake7240]

>neutral One is only neutral if others see them as neutral, one cannot consider themselves neutral, because there is no historical, political, economical, scientific way of defining what is good an evil. It is either given to us via religion or completely subjective. If you think that a marxists explaining to you the difference between different leftist theories is neutral, then america is gunna split one way or another.

[@juanvalencia3090]

Not neutral at all lol

[@imacyclepath440]

Neutral my ass.... It only seems neutral to you if you have socialist leaning views. Anyone that is a free market capitalist can see the obvious cues that this is a bias view of the subject. No worries if you don’t see it. You suffer from conformation bias. I.e. : portraying in the Cuba scenario, the private factory owner as a big fat guy smoking a cigar (capitalism) wanting to pay the workers as little as possible and portraying the flip side as paying as high as possible. Riddle me this, why have so many Cubans fled Cuba by any means necessary. In make shift rafts barely lake worthy much less able to cross a section of sea to escape to Florida USA? Because the Cuban government is so great and does such a phenomenal job?!? I don’t think so.

[@seanbarber1452]

Unfortunately, 'socialist' and 'socialism' have become political buzz words in the US, used without any real meaning behind them.

[@LumiNyte]

"bIdEn Is A sOcIaLiSt"

[@anyau]

@@LumiNyte we wish

[@oliviaplamondon5333]

my friend called kamilah Harris a socialist...utterly disturbed

[@Charles50Kal]

Just like racist

[@hyp3r-systems838]

LITERALLY the EXACT same thing for Fascism and Fascists... goes both ways "komrade"

[@SK-re7vo]

"Basically, all Marxists are communists but not all communists are Marxist. Same way all communists are socialists but not all socialists are communist" -Me, 2024

[@AfonsoGameiro-xy1vt]

based

[@rickkroll]

Rectangle= square explanation, pretty spot on

[@soulcapitalist6204]

@@SK-re7vo Communism is Marx's theory.

[@supferfuzz]

But they are are a form of socialists

[@aleksandarmarkovic221]

I’m so glad you mentioned Star Trek under communism, I feel like I’m the only one who sees it sometimes

[@anymaru]

The claim that money doesn’t exist in Star Trek is such a bold faced lie. Look at Deep Space Nine, Gold pressed Latinum. Ferengi.

[@attackman4458]

Shmoney

[@marsman01]

The idea that communism would work is science fiction...just like star trek

[@thebobbrom7176]

@@anymaru That's just Earth that doesn't have money other species do Hence this clip between Nog and Jake kzbin.info/www/bejne/jamYemqreqp4j9E

[@marshalironsides8777]

Ah yes.....so Marxism works on TV shows about the imaginary future.

[@omaremad9125]

“Stop quoting stuff i most definitely didn’t say” ~ Karl Marx - 1950 or sth

[@pwrup]

“Marxism sucks” (c) Karl Marx - 1969 b.c.

[@bruvance]

@@pwrup call me a marxist cuz i believe this😎

[@TRAVELERinANantiqueLAND]

I cant believe you spelled carl marks wrong smh my head.

[@pwrup]

@@TRAVELERinANantiqueLAND if carl marks would've been raper, his name'd be Lil Marxxx

[@pwrup]

karl* oh god no i spelled his name wrong, what a terrible marksist I am

[@lloydonix1490]

maybe the real communism was the friends we made along the way

[@ieatbananaswiththepeel4782]

@Green Mamba Games bro damn it was a joke no need to go full power mode

[@slimsixpack1313]

@Green Mamba Games what would happen is that there would be a crash without social structures. If we had no social structures, companies would shut down because there arent any billionaires to hold its shares. There wouldn't be any scientists in the end.

[@a12475]

@rob it’s easier to find the blues if they group together a lot

[@a12475]

@rob ??????

[@Navy35]

Green Mamba Games overpopulation? Liberals changed their tune on that after the 1990’s . Now they say we need more immigrants or we will be underpopulated. Same thing with global cooling- went to global warming and now it’s just climate change

[@hunterluxton5976]

I'm a retired law teacher. I never taught politics, but your video here was simple clear and the graphics were fantastic. I learned a lot. Thank you. ❤

[@gorerottedpwns]

Please explain for us non retired law teachers.

[@hunterluxton5976]

It would be like dressing a pig in a top hat and tuxedo. The pig remains a pig.

[@jonathanwarrenberg9260]

He misled you about anarchy just as all the Socialist academics always do.

[@rdmck857]

Perfect point!

[@PaulStevens-z8b]

completely agree

[@judahboyd2107]

"Socialism is when the government does stuff, and when the government does a lot of stuff, it's communism." ~Marx or something idk

[@emporioalnino4670]

Carl marks

[@adelaide6946]

robot rock is typing....

[@KumakOwO]

That’s literally the exact opposite of what was said in the video

[@adelaide6946]

@@KumakOwO it’s a joke lmao

[@doofer149]

Socialism is when the government does 100% of things. Capitalism is when the government does 99.99% of things. am I right comrade?

[@anarchistjesus7354]

"Anarchists and Marxists can often get along to achieve a common goal" *laughs in leftist infighting*

[@violetraven9440]

true i see a lot of animosity on both sides and part of it is what happened in Spain and Russia where the reds teamed up with the white army and the fascist to take down the black army of there countries

[@anarchistjesus7354]

@@adt_10terrarian5 You're standing in the way of leftist unity!

[@asunflower7993]

I know we need to focus on a common goal and stop in fighting we need to understand that until we fix America and educate people we cannot become a good country or a good world we cannot be all communist or socialist or whatever

[@anarchistjesus7354]

@@asunflower7993 Tankies betray the revolution, and kill anarchists. They create totalitarian regimes worse than the capitalist countries they overthrow. I will never align myself with tankies. If the revolution happens in America, they're the ones facing the wall this time. Anarchists outnumber them.

[@anarchistjesus7354]

@@asunflower7993 Fuck tankies. I fucking hate tankies.

[@CallieKou]

Why is no one talking about “sexy learning disabilities”?

[@clintonbrills834]

Exactly😂😂😂

[@heatherperleberg7816]

"Hey, boo. Yo' dyslexia lookin' real goo' right now..."

[@RosalioRedPanda]

Sexlexia 😔

[@michaelmappin1830]

To test whether you're paying attention. 😃

[@trumanyu1689]

omg, arknight player😂😂haven't seen that for a long time outside of the arknights community

[@ScaryJeri]

this is one of the best, and clearest videos i’ve watched on this topic to-date.

[@jonathanfoster4202]

Feel like no one in the comments even heard what this guy said

[@maverick4900]

@Chidi Akara That explains the rest of the comment section. And here I am an idiot for still having hope.

[@spheal608]

@@maverick4900 facts

[@ronniehopper2726]

Oh I did and I won't even more capitalism now

[@deviantd.6740]

@@ronniehopper2726 *want

[@ronniehopper2726]

@@deviantd.6740 I want more capitalism after he explained it he didn't make it sound any better

[@emelieyeee1139]

Americans: they’re all the same

[@BrainFood_Shorts]

indians don't even understand any of these terms

[@koushiksen7790]

@@BrainFood_Shorts That hits hard bro...People here are just too much ignorant...

[@JulianRodriguez-ym9ww]

@@koushiksen7790 or your just to soft snow flake

[@nebno6]

America: Damn commies!

[@nigeh5326]

@@BrainFood_Shorts you are being unfair on India. It takes time to progress and there are a lot of Indians to progress. India is on the way up economically India and Pakistan have both achieved a lot since independence

[@IJustLoveStories]

The only thing I know for sure about socialism is that if you try to define it, someone will show up to tell you that you're wrong

[@bloodymortifying]

You're

[@YusuffYT]

@@bloodymortifying yur

[@zigmazero2879]

you

[@Mikestheman2b]

ThatGuyWithHisHat there are many versions for sure. It’s like the Christian denominations all trying to say they’re the right one. This is true for pretty much all economic systems, not just socialism

[@blockyuniversemcschannel5026]

@@zigmazero2879 yu

[@Pro_K.R.]

9:44 That's an awesome way to visualize it all! I wouldn't know where to start on making a chart like that

[@nukesakuji]

I like how some people in the comments are saying this guy just overcomplicates and misinforms. And then they tell their own version of the 3 topics and you can tell they've sprinkled their own blatantly quite negative (or maybe even positive, I haven't scrolled too far) opinion about these ideologies. This dude's literally telling them as they are, even as far as to dive a bit deeper what Socialism entails and what it technically isn't tied to. Politics be like this sometimes. But so is the piss poor education some of us receive about this stuff.

[@NyJoanzy]

I'd say he's undercomplicating it. He goes by the Left Right axis but ignores the Authoritarian Libertarian one. Also you can't be socialist without democracy. That was just Soviet propaganda, as socialism is defined by collective control.

[@cefirodewinter9086]

@@NyJoanzy That's what he said, they where not socialists because you can't be socialist without democracy, true socialism is democratic, do you really believe that every person that supports socialism wants to live with a fucked up government like the Soviet Union ruling over? No of course not

[@4thinternational283]

@@cefirodewinter9086 the Soviet union was a centralised democracy.

[@blazoraptor3392]

@@4thinternational283 which is a fancy word for "One Party Dictatorship"

[@4thinternational283]

@@blazoraptor3392 yes, the Soviet union was a single party state.

[@rosearah]

damn these comments are pissed off at someone just trying to explain what the terms mean

[@geoffrey4253]

some of it was from the brainwashing we would get from the COLD WAR. Today they mix Capitalism with a strong social safety net as Communism. Then you say well I guess all are NATO allies are Communist I guess we lost the Cold War after all. Sheesh!

[@patrik6872]

Geoffrey me when I’m drunk and have 2 braincells left:

[@lisab7798]

Where?

[@Raphael11001]

Politics is a sensitive subject. Same for religion and sports.

[@lincolnhantsbarger3306]

Well he did a piss poor job and an over complicated one. Let me simplify and fix his errors. Marxism in all its forms is evil, which includes but not limited to marxism/socialism/fascism/communism/demonkkkrat-socialism/socialism-with-chineese-characteristics/democracy To quote Vladimir Lenin 'democracy is Indispensable to socialism' and 'The goal of socialism is communism' The only thing all marxists can agree on even though marxism has been tried is it 30 times now? i lose count. Is that true marxism has never really been tried. Marxism in one form or another killed 100million people or more in the 20th century not including a single soldier killed in battle.

[@kanaefukuda1864]

Topic: Marxism, Socialism, Communism, Capitalism Me: Aneurysm

[@Blaineworld]

Nice meme.

[@btbingo]

Explosively bloody?

[@skunk12]

This comment is da bomb 💣💥

[@melaniesaechao1788]

Lol

[@woodlands_]

It's not that hard to understand dude.

[@johnsilver6908]

4:06 I live in Cuba and this is how democracy works her: It doesn't exists. I'm guessing that will be a short video and an easy one to make. Reality is that the alleged "democracy" we have here doesn't work at all because only the Castro dynasty and their friends are the ones that rule this country. We only get to elect low level bureaucrats that wield no power and will not stand up under any circumstances for the people or the community, the only thing they will do is to say yes to whatever the higher members of the party tell them to do. That's it. But I'm not truly mad at it because no democracy actually works anyway, weather is a real one like the USA or is a fake one like here in Cuba, no democracy truly works in the end because like the ancient Greeks pointed out that's mob rule, and the mob will always be inevitably more ignorant and mediocre that its best citizens, that's just nature and there's no way of getting around it.

[@CocoNut-b7o]

Exactly. Like many things, democracy sounds right and good only in theory, that’s all.

[@seanreiman5277]

God this is the most easily digestible version of this I’ve seen. I understood most these already, but still incredibly well done!

[@adrianreimer1419]

dont blaspheme

[@nthny1875]

100% agree. Excellent video. I had a rather good understanding of all this as well.. but this video has filled all the missing gaps I didn't even know I had, even better defying what I already did know.

[@deadonabed2875]

I send this video to like everyone that i ever talk about politics with.

[@davidpaz9389]

The dream of a Marxist utopia is earth during the time when Star Trek takes place. No money. No greed. No poverty. Each receives according to their talent, skill, and drive. The reality of a Marxist utopia is the Borg collective.

[@deadonabed2875]

@@davidpaz9389 it’s not a utopian dream tho. Learn marxist dialectics

[@toddgaak422]

"The goal of Socialism is Communism." - Lenin

[@garininderdeo8010]

And Marx... " Socialism is a result of capitalism "

[@mr.kevin1209]

@Zhào Liǔ agreed

[@woodlands_]

@Zhào Liǔ Capitalism is not fair, that's part of the reason Marx wrote what he did in the first place. about natural though, nature can be cruel and unjust and in many ways not something one should want to emulate. the fact that capitalism came about naturally does not make it better.

[@woodlands_]

@Zhào Liǔ And how exactly is exploiting other people's labor value for your own profit "good"? The issue is that you are barely rewarded for being a worker. certainly some of your value goes to you but the overwhelming majority gets stolen by a capitalist.

[@garininderdeo8010]

@Zhào Liǔ did I say capitalism wasn't the most natural or fair system? Wdf is wrong with you

[@tclem14]

“ things they should teach Americans 101”

[@WeezaY5000]

"And it is on purpose."

[@ComradeHellas]

Amen

[@felixrobinson5583]

@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo how can he be biased all he says is what they are and that the rest of the world don't think Bernie Sanders is a socialist

[@felixrobinson5583]

@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo he doesn't present any arguments for or against he just I forms what the different socialist groups are

[@felixrobinson5583]

@MajorLeague he's a social democrat which is the same as Sweden his policies just advocate a more mixed economy than you already have

[@element1192]

Funnily enough, "social democrat" used to be a catch-all term for Marxists. Marx, Engels, and Lenin before the second Russian revolution, all occasionally called themselves social democrats, after the Social Democratic Party of Germany which Marx helped to create in 1875.

[@vegito9019]

Don't mess up more the people 😄

[@adrix_wastaken2196]

Social Democrats used to be socialist who wanted to use democratic systems to acheive their goals… today they are hipocrits who cant keep a promise😂

[@benainsworth6995]

We need to teach more about politics in schools if we are to have a politically conscious society that allows everyone to pitch in the government

[@DiMadHatter]

the school system funded by the bourgeoisie won't allow that, they want compliant workers who won't question their authority. we need to teach class consciousness everywhere, inside and outside of school, through every subversive means possible. "each one teach one" as it is said

[@archdukefranzferdinand4429]

@@DiMadHatter It sounds like instead of people simply being conscious about how class works you want school to just blatantly teach Marxism. I don’t need to get into why Marxism is a dangerous idea to be teaching. You can take a look at the history books for all the evidence you need. The first piece of evidence is evident in the language and tone of your comment. 3 quarters of Marxists are fueled not by the desire for the good of everyone as a whole (which is what Marxism is realistically trying to achieve) but instead it seems they are fueled by a spite and hatred for the upper class or anyone who might have more “things” than they do.

[@supremelordoftheuniverse5449]

@@DiMadHatter conspiracy theory, much?

[@peterlewis2178]

@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 That's not a conspiracy theory, that's kind of just how it is. In the US at least, It's pretty clear that massive corporations have the power to influence the government and its endeavors, or the views of the people themselves. Corporations benefit from the people being poorly or inaccurately educated, because it provides them their workforce, and fuels their wealth. So since it's in their best interest to maintain that system, and because they have massive amounts of wealth (aka power) to influence that, it would be incredibly difficult to actually enact change.

[@DiMadHatter]

@@archdukefranzferdinand4429 now THAT is the conspiracy theorist at work!

[@cezarprodan1800]

this guys accent sounds like a british person who lived in america for a long time. and he lives in sweden. im cofused,

[@MjoedDrikkar]

Quite a lot of people who are from scandinavia get this accent. I do have it my self.

[@Anthrax6989]

hmm I'm curious do british people have simmilar accent to scandinavian people cause britain was invaded by Normans. Could they have so much influence on english language?

[@zacyzoo]

The Normans were French, you mean the vikings who invaded from Scandinavia. The English Language has been hugely influenced by the languages of the people who invaded such as Latin from the Romans, old English from the Saxons, old French from the Normans and old Norse from the Scandinavian Vikignar who invaded. This is why English speakers can work out the meaning of some words from the modern versions of these languages as each has had a profound effect on the English Language as a whole.

[@Hotchpotchsoup]

We don't dub movies other than for small kids. We use subtitles and learn proper English. That's why almost all of us are multilingual :)

[@simplyshama]

scandinavian intonation is similar to people from northern UK. northerners and scandinavians tend to elongate each syllable. even certain words have scandi origin i.e. in scottish dialect and norweigan barn = children.

[@thatringinginyourears3955]

Him: anarchists and orthodox Marxists can generally get along Shrek: like that’s ever gonna happen

[@benh192]

Sick reference bro

[@fredericktrabonpa5327]

Anarkiddie: We did it tankie we finished a revolution Tankie: I'm sorry

[@romalea]

@Tashawn Sheffield this is a genuine question so please don't think i'm attacking you, but, what are your opinions on the riots going on? good cause, bad cause? do you think it'll change anything, or we'll go into anarchy eventually? or a revolution?

[@caramel7050]

i mean i like marxists a lot generally even if we don't fully see eye to eye in some aspects it's marxist leninists that i can't stand

[@kennythelenny6819]

Someone explain the joke to me...

[@unclefred3128]

This is just all wrong.... Socialism = Going to night clubs. Communism = Helping your community (Don't litter. Etc). Marxism = A group of people that all share the name Mark. Capitalism = An effort to get people to use proper punctuation, spelling and grammar. This really isn't a hard subject and I have no idea why it's so contentious.

[@billclintonscomputer1408]

"communism is when gobernment venzuela no iphone" -Carl Mark

[@stefanetienney8351]

BUT VUVUZULA BAD!!!!!

[@sooryan_1018]

Karl Johnson

[@ericanderson7346]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Perfect!

[@ollikoskiniemi6221]

Hollow

[@ben101dunne8]

@@sooryan_1018 Lagre Saomrke

[@sweetgranny1017]

By the way, if no one else mentioned it, Sweden is NOT a socialist country.

[@Sun-Tzu-]

It's in the video...

[@polskacesarza5107]

When you want attention so you put atheist in your name for no reason

[@adorabasilwinterpock6035]

We’re not capitalist either though, mixed economy

[@xXxSwecopzxXx]

Sweden is a socialist country. And there are basically no differnence between socialism, communsim and marxism. Same shit different word.

[@chrisott1421]

@@adorabasilwinterpock6035 Sweden is capitalist

[@alphamoonman]

I have a learning disability, and this video was near-percectly understandable!

[@flagermusen]

It is also wrong. Don't fall for propaganda my friend.

[@alphamoonman]

@@flagermusen Well, the most modern way of disproving something is by saying it is wrong and nothing else, so I commend you for conforming to majority rules.

[@jumpintheline2183]

See a lot of hardcore Communists don't like the presentation of this video. They don't like to believe Anarchists are actually Communists as well as they seem to disagree with the flowchart style of describing communism. They disagree that Marxism-Leninism or Maoism are forms of Orthodox Marxism and they outright call Trotskyism revisionism. There's a lot of really good information here, but the hardcore guys are kinda like purists and don't like to be lumped in with other groups that don't share their exact ideals.

[@johnnywaffles2482]

@@flagermusen it was a very shallow explanation

[@TheLucasbr152]

@@johnnywaffles2482 how can a 11min explanation not be shallow, it's meant to be the basics

[@Spido68_the_spectator]

You forgot market socialism, which can fall under democratic socialism or just revisionist marxism

[@DoomDutch]

I'm interested why so many disliked this video. It's very informative. Is it because they dislike communism/socialism...?

[@hazard4349]

Or they like it

[@AW-kr9fl]

It's mainly Americans from cold war propaganda brainwashing

[@notyourbuddy_guy]

@Moolook how so?

[@anthonyoer4778]

@@AW-kr9fl American here... When and where has socialism ever been good and actually worked? Hey never... Where is it being pushed again? The idea that social democracy isn't going to fail is liberal, socialist b.s.. Spread by globalists and academics.

[@yasfey8342]

@@anthonyoer4778 Yeah, sure, those globalists and academics, people who study the subject their intire life and NONE of them know what they're saying, right? Who knows are ordinary people influenced by imperialism propaganda to maintain a status quo that benefits a small group of people. Dude, between one or the other, I'll go with the academics. And capitalism sure is working very well, right? Ask to third world country people in extreme misery around the world. Or you think it has to be this way and it's IMPOSSIBLE to not exist a considerable amount of people suffering hard? Perhaps a third way between capitalism and socialism...

[@ajc8815]

No one: American boomers: Liberals, Socialists, and Democrats are the same

[@conquestv4024]

And these people vote

[@a10485]

The GOP is based off of classical liberalism, therefore the American mainstream right is liberal. Since they consider liberals to be communists, they are communist. This means that Trump, Biden, and Sanders are all equally communist in their eyes.

[@koushikdas5097]

Liberals: Drumf is a fascist.

[@koushikdas5097]

@BoyTheCorgi Attention Gamers, we have a degenerate Redditor replying to my comment.

[@koushikdas5097]

@BoyTheCorgi Yes.

[@tomdonahoe3539]

An overwhelming majority of people in the US who are critical of Socialism can't even define what it is. How can you possibly critique something you don't even understand.

[@Ulyanov.11]

Because there is still a large amount of 50s style attitude, which had comical hatred against communism and socialism

[@tomdonahoe3539]

@@Ulyanov.11 Exactly.

[@USSFFRU]

Half the US Population still havent moved on from the Red Scare nor the Cold War.

[@cretaceoussteve3527]

Sure but you're missing the more useful point. Socialism doesn't mean anything anymore, it's like "populism" or "people's party", it's just politisphere backwash that has a different taste depending on your perspective and upbringing, that people like to have semantic arguments over. If you want to talk about socioeconomic systems and human organization then you have to just look at what is actually happening. So we should start by just ditching words that have unfortunately become inherently confusing and say what we mean. To do that, of course, you would have to know what you mean first. *Edit* btw I'm not saying nobody should say socialism anymore, lol, people should use whatever words they want as long as they are talking to people who understand what they mean - so communication is happening. The problem with these kinds of shape-shifting political curse words on something as wide as the internet or other public discourse is that people are coming with different definitions for these kinds of words, and therefore cross-group communication is not happening when political science terms are ubiquitous. Just my two cents

[@frozencoati8806]

When your examples of socialism (The Soviet Union, China, Cuba, Vietnam etc) are corrupt, authoritarian states then it's no surprise when people oppose it (myself included).

[@Fomites]

Thanks for the video. If you do make another video about this topic, can I suggest some more practical examples? Cheers :-)

[@kappamania5674]

Everybody: Now it all make sense. Me: Now i am even more confused.

[@TheCarloCarlone]

The test isn't confusing The test:

[@lentoperoavanzo4007]

Communism is a classless, stateless society. Socialism is a society trying to achieve communism by using the state to end class society (the workers now control the means of production and the capitalists no longer control production or hoard wealth). Capitalism is a dictatorship of the capitalist class. Socialism is a dictatorship of the working class. Communism, once again, is the stage at which the state is no longer necessary once there are no economic classes and societies can produce solely for use rather than exchange. This stage can probably only exist after capitalism no longer exists anywhere in the world.

[@TheCarloCarlone]

@@lentoperoavanzo4007 Under capitalism, man oppreses man. Under socialism is the other way around -A.O.Cortez

[@lentoperoavanzo4007]

TheCarloCarlone The important difference is that capitalism seeks to perpetuate the oppression. Socialism seeks to end the system of oppression altogether, along with itself as a state. Simple analogy, but capitalism is being robbed at gunpoint and the mugger telling you it’s just the way things are. Socialism is shooting the mugger and then destroying both the guns.

[@TheCarloCarlone]

@@lentoperoavanzo4007 actually one is being robbed by a person and the other is being robbed by an entire community

[@magnuslansing28]

"Socialism is when the government does stuff" - Karl Marx, 2018

[@johnathanmandrake7240]

Which stuff?

[@a12475]

@@johnathanmandrake7240 seizing the means of production, laying a planned economy, establishing a dictatorship of the proletariat, adding collectivization.

[@johnathanmandrake7240]

@@a12475 Shifting the means of productions from one oligarchy to another, creating a beauracry, establishing a emperor, obliteration of the self and creation of a absolute view of the state. So a recipe for disaster, got it.

[@a12475]

@@johnathanmandrake7240 you have to be the dumbest fucking human in history to not understand this. go to fucking hell liberal

[@cybertutorials5609]

@@a12475 Pretty sure he’d be a conservative. Liberals usually support socialist ideals.

[@dennisjamesbaumann3065]

I love how we have to learn about this stuff in school but at the same time schools dont bother teaching us.

[@itsbeyondme5560]

They want us to be dumb

[@jasurjasur9762]

Schools are taken over by communists

[@itsbeyondme5560]

@@jasurjasur9762 Wrong. Conservatives like Pranger U want us to be divided and fascist.

[@j.corbygaming]

@@itsbeyondme5560 ironic

[@saricubra2867]

@@itsbeyondme5560 Fascism is socialist, just like the Nazis, PragerU is totally the opposite.

[@L8rCloud]

Nazis called themselves socialist - so what? - Trump keeps saying he’s really really smart Totally erroneous statements

[@scotthayes914]

How many times per day does he occupy your mind? TDS is real

[@whatabouttheearth]

​@@scotthayes914 Nah, it was a reasonable statement. National "Socialists"/National "Anarchists"/National "Autonomists"/National "Bolshevists"/MAGA "communists" adding a suffix relating to a group they despise and are nothing like, is absolutely correlative to Trump claiming he's smart. They're all ploys for suckers.

[@whatabouttheearth]

​@@scotthayes914 Nah, it was a reasonable statement. National "Socialists"/National "Anarchists"/National "Autonomists"/National "Bolshevists"/MAGA "communists" adding a suffix relating to a group they despise and are nothing like, is absolutely correlative to Trump claiming he's smart. They're all ploys for suckers.

[@rickkroll]

​@@scotthayes914Okay so any time someone left of center brings up trump it's DTS. Then what is it when the entire right froths at the mouth about Joe Biden and Kamala? How about the fact you obsessed over Hunter Biden for 4 years 🫵🏽😂

[@rickkroll]

​@@scotthayes914lmfao you look exactly like someone id expect to say "trump derangement syndrome" as if it was a real thing. The only thing deranged is bootlickers like you thinking he would ever care about the working or middle class 😂 how's that trickle down feeling? Nice and warm?

[@nuhaomar9542]

I actually had no idea that a communist society would be one without money or a state. The fact that China is dominated by the CCP yet they buy and sell things has had me confused. Thank you for posting this video, I learned quite a lot

[@robertwinslade3104]

Yeah, generally speaking education about what these political/economic terms actually mean is pretty terrible. Regardless of where anyone sits on the political spectrum it makes it pretty difficult to have an honest, good faith debate on these different ideologies when 90%+ of people have such massive misconceptions on the topic. I definitely remember being very surprised when I found out what socialism and Communism were actually defined as because I had unironically bought into the "socialism is when the government does stuff" meme 😅

[@jrno93]

China steals blueprints and ideas through hacking. that's why you see them selling things that are copies of more expensive things. why spend billions of dollars developing a technology when you can steal it.

[@notastrangeperson2298]

Yeah they are far from communist

[@tbotalpha8133]

Modern-day China is communist in the same way that the Democratic Republic of the Congo is a democratic republic. Which is to say, not at all, if you spend even five seconds analyzing what's actually happening in the country.

[@menonalevi6984]

You can watch Bay Area videos, he talk a lot about China.

[@Reality-Distortion]

The fact that social democracy and democratic socialism mean completely different things is probably the biggest sign we're running out of ideas how to make consistent sense of it.

[@soulcapitalist6204]

Socialists struggle with this, but not the rest of the world. Socialists have run out of ideas in the 19th century and exist as a testament to the effectiveness of demagogy and cheap word tricks on stupid or mentally troubled people in society. This describes Marx's career and the sick minded folks who engaged in the DSA convention, nazism, the soviet takeover of Russia, etc. Either way, a claim to be socialist is a claim to violate basic human rights in the economy. Democratic Socialism is mostly a US term of DSA party and the Progressive Bernie Sanders - these are the most prominent of anything ever labeled this way in world history. Sanders proposes a state takeover of healthcare such that Americans and American insurance companies cannot pay directly for medical care. This puts little daylight between democratic socialists and national socialists of Germany. Right away, in 1933, the nazis pursued socialism just like this, placing the state between the autonomous transactions between members of the public (eg commodity exchange act).

[@Слышьты-ф4ю]

Dude, wdym, both are in green corner of coordinates

[@Valentin-oc5nh]

I mean social democratics used to be democratic socialists, and so they also called themselves socialists. but because they turned out not to be anymore, they largely changed their name to "social democratic" - so decidedly not socialist.

[@jhonyermo]

THANK YOU .

[@真夜中の橋]

The difference is vague as hell. Everyone knows that they’re different, but everyone has different interpretation of how they’re different. But in practice, those terms are basically the same.

[@ネイアン-u1p]

communism is when my pals give me some lays chips frick yeah

[@someguy1576]

ネイアン You mean air? Oh fuck I just wooooshed myself

[@capt.whippersnapper5496]

ネイアン Fuck you

[@doggoslayer5679]

No communism means nobody gets chips because all the potato farmers died

[@kevinmiller2927]

no communism is were Lays brand doesn't exist at all and you get government provided bag of air with potato chip crumbs

[@KoruGo]

Except, communism is stateless. Instead, Lays *would* exist. It would just be a worker's co-op like the Mondragon Corporation.

[@assassinsrequiem]

Fascism & corporatism is the same thing: The merging of the corporate world & the government. The only difference is which side forced the merging. Fascism is when the government does it. Corporatism is when the corporate world does it.

[@allusionsxp2606]

I’m not a Socialist myself or even agree with it, but thank you for making this video. It really helped me get a better understanding of Socialism, Communism, etc.

[@nibbletrinnal2289]

As a socialist, I enjoy seeing capitalists actually making efforts to learn about socialism and communism. It's always more fun to debate with a capitalist who knows what they're talking about than to debate with a capitalist who thinks communism is any government that the US doesn't like.

[@joycastle.]

@@nibbletrinnal2289 Fully agree (except for the "as a socialist" bit 😉). Now if someone could make a video that explains fascism and other right-wing concepts in the same way, that would help too. I sometimes get the impression that the leftists tend to call everyone with a conservative/reactionary/right-wing opinion "fascist", although that is just as wrong as calling social democrats "communists". The most difficult bit for this would probably be to present the fascist ideology in a coherent way, because I could never make any sense out of it.

[@nibbletrinnal2289]

@Jean Sanchez I was using capitalist in the commonly used meaning of someone who likes the capitalist system, rather than one who owns the means of production.

[@nibbletrinnal2289]

@Jean Sanchez I might be in the wrong, or it might be the people I talk to, but I commonly see the word capitalist used to mean someone who supports capitalism(just as how a communist supports communism) as well as meaning one who owns the means of production. It didn't even occur to me that someone might not have known that definition. Sorry about that

[@Jack-iv1ed]

@@joycastle. I am a leftist but no. I understand right wing ideologies much better than left wing ideologies

[@BasedPeter]

"Anarchists and Marxists generally can get along and work together" You know, *except to save Spain*

[@mavorspiter]

Makhno: nooo, you cant just encircle the black army in Crimea and destroy them Red Army: haha anarchists go ded

[@leonieschwab3572]

Everyone else: intellectual responses with actual background knowledge Me: Oof burn

[@cleaver3519]

In all fairness, the nationalists thought they were saving spain from a violent mob of socialists.

[@cleaver3519]

I dont think amerca has any real nationalists or if there is they have realised if they give the socialists enough rope they will hang themselves in a fake hate crime. the libertarians are the ones that would get support.

[@realitynowassigned]

You know, like one word that sums that up without your help

[@threerabbit2227]

I think this is why idiots always mix these up. It's easier to accuse any economic idealogy left of you as "communism" than to tackle the actual complexity of the situation.

[@DJVARAO]

Like this idiot? Vladimir Lenin

[@leseure9967]

@@DJVARAO Yup.

[@DJVARAO]

@@leseure9967 So you know better than Lenin... really?🤣 man, you guys are funny.

[@leseure9967]

@@DJVARAO Eat shit. I'm not going to waste my time debating with someone whose ability to determine the easily distinguishable differences between socialism and communism is so minuscule that they have to use Vladimir Lenin as a crutch. The only funny one is you because you obviously can't think for yourself and a laughing emoji is never going to change that.

[@threerabbit2227]

@@DJVARAO The goal of socialism is to achieve a society in which the means of production are commonly owned. Communism is a school of socialism. @JaneFonda1942 Apex Clan Rabbits aren't well known to be fascists,

[@ferikkusucartofn9712]

A lot of anarchists, most of us, have a transition between capitalism and communism, it's called anarchosyndicalism

[@DerDrako]

Aye. Glad someone mentioned it.

[@WibblyWobbly1905]

Love my anarcho-syndaclist comrades

[@yummydragon8533]

isnt that just a vanguard, i.e. an iteration of socialism?

[@roz2692]

" _Capitalism_ is when *I* phone, _Socialism_ is when *WE* phone, _Communism_ is when *OUR* phone ." *-* Carel Marks 2020

[@KosmicCharley]

Is that Steve Carel?

[@randynelson2265]

The concept of I is rejected by Socialism.

[@AG-zv9jo]

Capitalism is when iPhone *Trademark of Apple Inc. in property rights and you don't technically own your phone*

[@kohaku2306]

@@AG-zv9jo thats actually comunism not calitalism

[@GAMER123GAMING]

@@AG-zv9jo That sounds like something you'd see in a communist society "Here is OUR new IPHONE citizen of the authoritarian slave state generic soviet republic. REMEMBER the government of this glorious nation owns OUR IPHONE"

[@gnas1897]

5:20 what they teach you 8:25 what you have to write in exam

[@terran4531]

This commentary section is a nightmare.

[@Mistah-ms5qn]

At least nightmares aren't stupid

[@AndyZach]

Normal for KZbin and the internet.

[@shenghan9385]

Well. As bad as it is, it still falls way short when compared with commie countries.

[@Horny_Fruit_Flies]

@@shenghan9385 Thanks for proving the point, bozo.

[@Stigsnake5]

The comments are exact proof of capitalist degredation of the average human mind. Who needs independent thought when you got the TV telling you what to think!

[@ArmyScoutMom]

Yeah, Cuba is democratic... And I'm a butterfly

[@chrisgaming9567]

Do you have any actual counterargument or rebuttal to that?

[@culturemanoftheages]

yeah I thought that bit was pretty funny too

[@dingbat3440]

@@chrisgaming9567 Fidel must've been a very popular president if he was voted in for 30+ years...

[@alexleibovici4834]

@@chrisgaming9567 > Do you have any actual counterargument or rebuttal to that [that Cuba is democratic] Well, can you name: - a few non-Communist political parties? - a few non-Communist newspapers/publications? - the dates of free, multi-party elections since 1959?

[@chrisgaming9567]

@@alexleibovici4834 You don't really understand what "democracy" means, do you?

[@dershogun6396]

"Anarchists and Marxists generally can get along" Stalin: unfortunatly for you, history will not see it that way

[@alexandergray9770]

@Hinters his comment still stands, a lot of people ascribe Stalin as a marxist therefore history does in fact see it that way.

[@carlosbanderas4238]

@Hinters He was a really good Marxist. He did really good for his ideology. That's why it escalated so much.

[@VENOMARI24]

Just cause history sees it that way doesn’t make it true, “marxist” was communists disguised as marxism.

[@satelliteepitaph6220]

Both have a penchant for arson.

[@lincolnhantsbarger3306]

Many so called anarchists end up forming hierarchies of their own and then governments with rules.....true anarchism isnt possible in the long run. Anarchy is just a tool used by leaders of various sides to bring about chaos when theres chaos evil thrives and its easier for bad men to convince good people to give up their freedoms in the name of security.

[@jigbizzer]

"this politics thing isn't that hard, I could be an MP" "this morning Tommy was found 'mind blown' in the toilet with a phone in his lap."

[@danielgonsalves905]

Lmao true true

[@dondrysdale7297]

he had heard that the premium grade lizard juice was on sale at the Wal-Mart.

[@honkhonk8009]

POV: you run against hillary clinton

[@robinsea]

Thank you for this video!! I'm dyslexic + dyspraxic, and most of the information I needed to understand these topics is completely inaccessible to me in the form of long dense documents, but this video and your website have really helped!

[@riflebusters1]

Awesome

[@kuniosaiki]

Dyslexic gang This helped to, I’m studying An Inspector Calls and I need to know what author was even on about.

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

Jeroen Braat you can get an initial beginners understanding and that's what this video is for you arrogant jackass

[@williamdeely7836]

Dyspraxic gang

[@Gbizz]

Socialism: Ideas so good, that they have to mandated.

[@kadanseward3022]

When you think that capitalism isn’t enforced

[@HickoryJ]

Great video! I’m a rightist and capitalist, but I want to try to understand people who disagree with me so I can better understand my own views and why I should or should not have them. Very informative and reasonable!

[@Thejeanio]

Jobey Extreme simplification of current state of the economy: The very rich become exponentially more rich, so they keep pumping money thowards crazy numbers and that disrupts the economy, the money flows up there and there is less money available for the rest who try to get jobs although there arent enough jobs for everyone. That is the main flaw i see in capitalism. (That and the fact that lobies are out of control)

[@destinyblade1167]

Finally a normal civil comment in this hell of a comment section

[@YaBoiElkins]

Thejeanio Ik your comment was 2 weeks ago but I feel I should give my part in it. If you earn the money that you have through your own work and etc should the government be able to take that hard earned money away because others are suffering? You’d think well yeah others are suffering right? However what right do they have to take that money away after you worked so hard to get it

[@YaBoiElkins]

Thejeanio I’m not saying you support communism but I’m just saying that that’s the flaw I see in the communistic idea.

[@ScubiStD]

@@Thejeanio Income inequality is impossible to be removed, you also see that in nature with wild life as an example when always animals are together when they find something rich in resources. What you can do is make the poorer richer by helping them to produce and being useful. I have problems with monopoly in capitalism because it can be greedy. If Marx had one thing right, is the fact that with machines, you can make people inefficient at an industrial level. China is the main country that produces many electrical/electronic componets for the world, with that quantity of people (more than 1 thousand million) that live there, obviously they have problems. How to make people feel useful and pay them well if you have robots replacing them? This is an interesting issue.

[@bernardoteodoro8951]

I'm a conservative and I thank u for this video, this has been a good tool to introduce some friends to politics and what their terms mean really, just believe that each one should have the liberty to have his own ideas and opinions, so I was searching for some simple honest content, without the opinions of the one explaining changing the narrative to put someone against the ideology, continue with the good work. Sorry for anything strange with my English, I'm not a native speaker

[@mlgpro2241]

your english is fine, and it's cool that you have that opinion

[@AString95]

Good English. As long as the socialists don’t try a violent uprising we are good. But I mean, they are openly calling for a violent uprising on twitter.

[@mlgpro2241]

@@AString95 yeah, I'm not a fan of twitter leftists but I don't many people are anyway, so

[@AString95]

Mlg Pro exactly. They have a really loud voice right now, but are likely a fringe minority that will be swiftly crushed.

[@AString95]

Mlg Pro I legit had some dude named Antifacadet tell me bernie enjoys support of the US military, and he thinks they’re on his side. I honestly feel sorry for these people.

[@engelstraene3]

Him: Generally, Orthodox Marxists and Anarchists can get along Me: I mean, Orthodox Marxists can barely get along with each other sometimes, so...

[@orion2116]

Bold of you to assume Anarchists can get along themselves

[@nkanyezihlatshwayo3601]

@@orion2116 **John Zerzan has symbolically rejected the chat**

[@TheButterKing1000]

Orion SkinnerLopata we all get along when it comes time to mock the ancaps

[@caramel7050]

funny that you think there's no infighting between anarchists either the amount of shit i have seen thrown between anti civ anarchists and anarcho transhumanists, amazin

[@crouton3455]

Are you really a leftist if you don't spend at least 30 minutes a day on infighting with other leftists?

[@Not_here850]

honestly was stressing so much over this topic because i didnt get it, decided to watch a couple more yt videos and this one helped the most. thank you

[@anabeloliveros4794]

As per my experience as cuban, your story of what happens in Cuba is partially wrong. It is right to say the means of production belong to the state. The mistake is to say the state represents the community. On the contrary, the state represents and act in behalf of the political atistocratie, which controls not just the legislatif power, but the judicial and the represive forces such as the police and the military, to whom the state gives impunity to repress the community it is supposed to represent when the community demands for their rights. So the community is not represented. It is unable to express itself without been repressed. And it is punished when they try to take to tribunals to the repressive forces for violating their rigths. So, in Cuba the means of production do not belong to the community.

[@lincolnduke]

Yeaaah, you dont fit the narrative so we're going to ignore you.

[@godsguard2921]

That was easier to understand but made less sense

[@adafuns]

Yea my family is cuban and when I saw their description of Cuba i had to wonder "what is this magical fantasy land and why does it have the same name as the kleptocratic dictatorship where my family fled from?" Most people only know Cuba from the tourist traps that the government make sure is working properly and gives a false idea on how the rest of the country is run.

[@lincolnduke]

@@code99k Awww, I remember being an edgy 15 year old.

[@adriancarballoza6149]

Right on the money

[@jenniferyu2828]

Man how many languages does this guy speak he didn’t stutter when pronouncing those German words

[@lifed4375]

He didn't stutter but I can assure you that he does not speak german, or at least not very well since his pronunciation was like someone who does not know how to speak German

[@Beiez]

@@lifed4375 yeah the pronounciation was actually quite bad (not blaming him tho, German is tough and those were some hard words)

[@johnnypopstar]

@@Beiez Germany, land of strong food and hard words ^_^

[@imUnkreaTive]

@@Beiez Well compared to some other people his pronunciation wasn’t even that bad

[@jenniferyu2828]

@@loglady7292 DJDNBTBTHTNTN OMG SKAM FAMMMMMM u r like the first five ppl on KZbin who recognize my pfp lmao

[@TurtleChad1]

Socialism is when the government does stuff and it's more socialism the more stuff it does and if it does a real lotta stuff it's communism. ~ Bernie Sander's cooler older brother

[@tragedyofwind]

very informative, i lived in Australia and i can tell you that labourer pay similar to doctor and engineer and commonly pay more than what small businesses owner profit from their business. and yet nobody in here called themselves socialism.

[@knowEyeDeer]

I'm Australian (and a socialist). Now you've met one of us. BTW, most Australians are Soc Dems, rather than Dem Socs which is why the majority of us don't identify as socialists. I hope that helps.

[@soulcapitalist6204]

Only a capitalist economy can result in high wages. It is impossible for socialist political economy to accomplish this.

[@gmodrules123456789]

"Obama, a Socialist Communist" If only Obama were that based.....

[@koushikdas5097]

"Trump is Fascist" If only 😔

[@thekhans2823]

@ Heinmann , Your German

[@TheChosenFailure]

@@thekhans2823 you're*; unless he owns a German and in that case it would be slavery

[@olafsrensen9578]

sure, but he will never be anything but a liberalist.

[@Eazycree]

@@koushikdas5097 I mean he is trampling peoples democratic right to protest

[@tvchick3758]

"The definition of socialism is anti capitalism." "The definition of capitalism is anti socialism" Great. Thanks.

[@Ruminations09]

Yeah, you have a point. If that phrase had been said, that would be some pretty circular logic and wouldn't explain anything... so it's a good thing that they didn't say that, isn't it.

[@egeo9979]

PokemonTom09 he did say it though

[@Ruminations09]

@@egeo9979 No, they didn't. They define socialism at 3:28

[@purplepoet6147]

I think his point was that the two were mutually exclusive but I get your point

[@michealflaithbheartaigh4139]

The Nazis hated capitalism ...hence the National Socialist part

[@flash98449]

The lesson in this video is about socialism, but sadly my brain is an introvert

[@popoffpeppar]

LMAO YOUR PROFILE PICTURE

[@VanoyBrown]

Capitalism is with lots of GM LS3 Engines, Socialism is with some GM LS3 Engines, Communism is with no GM LS3 Engines -Karl Marx, 1960

[@holatio4028]

Why so many dislikes? I think it's a fairly accurate simplification of something which is obviously much larger, complex and controversial... Kudos to the uploader, takk takk

[@GingiviticCinemaMaya]

Because Americans are afraid of Communism/Socialism, obviously.

[@kcbcustomcomputers5660]

Gingivitic Cinema And with good reason, everytime it is tried it works for a while, but eventually human greed takes over so people will either cheat the state and get more than they deserve, or not work at all for there is no benefit of working. Due to this the government must force the population to work against their will (which is brutally inefficient), and if they don't comply they are sent to gulag (or death camps, work camps, prisons, whatever floats the authoritarian boat).

[@brianviktor8212]

It's not exactly greed which is the issue there. That's again a socialist's view of why things go bad in society: "That particular socialist system failed because people fell back to the greed which we were supposed to fight!" No, no, no. There is a big distinction to make. The issue is that totalitarianism, the infringement of individual freedoms and taking full control of everyday life is a huge disaster. And then there is the thing with instead of learning from the failure, those in power try to push their agenda even harder and more rigorously, making use of "reeducation" and gulags to silence their opposition with the absolute power they claimed. Simply said: It's not the evil human nature which succeeds to resurface and causes the system to collapse, It's the system, which is hostile to humanity itself, falling apart due to it's inherent perversion.

[@olivercuenca4109]

Brian Viktor At the same time, I'd say the "falling back into" part generally is accurate, just that greed isn't quite the reason. It's a potential reason, but not the only one. The problem is the obsession with doing things through a revolution rather than gradually. When people have only known one way of doing things, even when the system changes entirely; they'll let it all go back to precisely how it was before the revolution. Take France or Russia. Both autocracies, they both had a revolution, and within ten years the people themselves allowed themselves to be put back under an autocratic government because that's what they saw as normal, rational government. The only reason the USA got through its revolution really is because they kept most of the government in place and essentially just made the monarchy elected.

[@brianviktor8212]

@Gauntlets 28 - Seems reasonable, I agree. But there are two types of revolution. One intends to liberate the people from an oppressive government and high taxation. The other intends to claim the first, but tries to seize totalitarian power itself, resulting merely in a power shift which may be even worse than what it was before. Socialism belong in the second category, and as we know, leads to genocides, vast human suffering, wars and death. And as I said, not because humans are not "ready yet," but because it opposes human nature and reality so much it will disperse over time. And yeah, the gradual transition is working perfectly, the majority of people are already wage slaves or dependent on the state. Soon, if the socialist system is fully achieved, we are all slaves to the globalist order. I hope that's not the goal you want to achieve... because that's what a dark part of me wants, to see the world burn and suffer, to see how people slowly decay in face of their decadence - and socialism is the way to do it.

[@williamabbott1452]

This is genuinely the most comprehensive video I have ever seen about this topic. I'm excited to watch more videos!

[@seanleith5312]

If someone's theory is used to kill millions of people, what should we do to the man? Nothing?

[@kevinbergman8532]

@@usernameforyoutube2661 lololol "this ten minute video is the most comprehensive thing I've seen on this subject! wow!"

[@user-tp4jl4xt6w]

@@Biggiiful i LOOVED that video, do u know any others you recommend? Or any similar channels?

[@jonathanhamer6125]

​@@Biggiiful that was a great recommendation! Thanks for that. I like how TIKs history lessons will reference source material as the lesson progresses.

[@tompitman8672]

lolol your attention span doesn't exceed 11:25 minutes?

[@leotate7956]

As a Cuban, who grew up there, I can affirmatively say that the officials in Cuba are not elected by the people, as you say at 4:05 in the video. It is not democratic at all. And no one but the government controls the means of production. Otherwise, good video, thank you.

[@archdukefranzferdinand4429]

@nikto nic All other things like “communism” can be traced back to the core idea of Marxism. Once you understand Marxism you can start to understand the rest. They are all branching forms of Marxism. There’s an inherent problem with Marxism that Marxists will likely fight me on but it’s been evident throughout history. The truth is Marxism is an appealing ideology at face value to anyone who is in the working class or strives for compassion and equality for all people. The issue is it only works in theory. Any attempt at achieving “true Marxism” in history has resulted in the other ideologies like Stalinism and Communism. The inherent greed and jealousy in humans takes over Marxism. Instead of equality for all it becomes an ideology for spiteful people to commit violence or “revolution” against “oppressors” aka people in a higher class than them. Then they govern society. That is done with the naive assumption that they themselves would not be come corrupt and evil because now they are the “oppressors” in the upper class. Turns out if you want equality for all and you want the government to control things like food and wealth distribution things get corrupt and very opposite of that very fast and Marxism ends up just self perpetuating into the very thing it sought to destroy. I recommend researching the “holomodor” if you want a real disturbing historical example of what Marxism can truly lead too. Modern socialist ideologies within capitalism are more reasonable things to support. “Democratic Socialism” aka the government has a limited and controlled ability to interfere with the economy and means of production. For instance someone like Bernie Sanders who argues for universal healthcare , aka the government can impose restrictions on pharmaceutical corporations to stop them from making medicine and healthcare whatever price they want

[@archdukefranzferdinand4429]

@nikto nic perhaps I mixed it up , been awhile since I heard him say it. Anyhow I like him lol. I thought you were trying to learn about Marxism and were fairly knew to this sorry 😂 For that ide recommend “Cuba Libre” it’s a documentary on the Cuban revolution and rise of Castro/communism in Cuba. I believe it might still be on Netflix

[@MelodyRose124]

@nikto nic Bernie Sanders is actually a great advocate for Communism. He loves the old Soviet Union. He in fact spent his honeymoon there and came back here talking about how wonderful it was. What these “socialist” countries don’t talk about is the wealthy elite, when seriously ill, ( including countries with “socialized medicine” like Canada) come to U.S. for treatment. Not only is it (the treatments or specialized surgeries) more readily available, it’s much less expensive. Now, I need to clarify- it WAS before the government put their greedy fingers it. There are a lot of areas that government has no business in- and of all of them- healthcare is the main one. Our healthcare has done nothing but erode since government put their fingers in it with cost rising and quality of care diminishing. I know what I’m talking about- I’ve been a hospice nurse for over 36 yrs

[@Jumpnjackflashisagas]

@@archdukefranzferdinand4429 Very well said, you are spot on. Karl Marx totally misjudged human nature and was a failure.

[@Jumpnjackflashisagas]

@@MelodyRose124 And Bernie channeled his campaign donations through his wife's advertising company and bought several mansions in the end. He is a total hypocrite which all socialist are.

[@gabyelyzabeth3569]

thank you so much for making that diagram! very helpful to understand the difference in terms

[@Linda._b]

This video actually helped me a lot. Since every highschool in my country has different 'levels', and I’m on the lower side of the levels, they only tell us about capitalism and communism. I asked about marxism, but my history teacher replied with: "Yeah.. that’s stuff they teach at a higher level, you only need to learn capitalism and communism at this level." So to sum it up for you, thanks (:

[@cautarepvp2079]

nice yea

[@lucasskovgaard3526]

That's the US education system in a nutshell... they teach nothing of value, only outdated bullshit. Oh and paying for university? I feel bad for Americans... Here in Denmark I (and everyone else over the age of 18) am literally getting paid to study.

[@Thedimensionalwarrior]

Where are you from?

[@Linda._b]

@@Thedimensionalwarrior The Netherlands

[@Kuonlin]

Teaching about communism before marxism is like teaching how to calculate before learning numbers

[@WiloPolis03]

It should be noted that while Anarchism is a socialist school of thought, it doesn't necessarily have to be communist. There's a few market-based anarchist ideologies, such as Mutualism or market anarchism.

[@123four...]

True, but not all anarchists fully consider them anarchists. I personally consider mutualists anarchists, although "anarchist capitalists" are not since they advocate for hierarchies so long as it isn't the state.

[@archdukefranzferdinand4429]

Forgive me but it seems to me this “Free Market Anarchism” sounds like just a fancier way of saying “Laissez Fair Economics”

[@davidjacobs8558]

anachy is when someone beat you up and take your things, you have no where to turn to for help. also, Capitalism REQUIRES strong government to enforce the private contracts.

[@jameswarrren2545]

Socialism is taxpayer funds being used collectively to benefit society as a whole, despite income, contribution, or ability. Sounds horrible, huh? How about the U.S.military? Libraries? Our police & fire departments? Garbage collection? Social Security insurance? Farm subsidies, corporate and big business subsidies? Sewer systems? Medicaid? Public Light systems? You see, we are still a capitalist nation. In America, you can still make a billion dollars, get a giant tax cut, and pay your employees barely enough to survive while you sail in your yacht to escape any guilt that might inconvenience you.

[@archdukefranzferdinand4429]

@@jameswarrren2545 Capitalism has its flaws and the solution to your problem is fixing and addressing the problems that exist within capitalism. AKA the big corporate CEOs pay larger wages for labor. Not get taxed more. Precisely where our tax money goes and what it funds needs to be more transparent to the public so that they can appropriately scrutinize it. The problems people complain about within capitalism think that because a system has problems as does any complex system automatically means that system (capitalism) is inherently flawed at its core and therefore solutions to the problems in capitalism exist outside of the system itself aka Marxism. Marxism is an inherently unfeasible and dangerous ideology and anyone who studies history well can tell you why.

[@lmbros6932]

I really have to give props to this guy for being pretty much unbiased the entire video making it a lot more digestible and reliable, thanks!

[@flutee6162]

Even admits he's marxist as well

[@andrewcross8244]

Unbiased?! Dude is a total commie

[@dudono1744]

@@andrewcross8244 he just defined socialism and things inside it

[@paulm4172]

How does one make garbage/BS palatable? Put a hammer and sickle on the packaging?

[@alfredbenedek3398]

The information is on paper is ! / one thing, in the living actuAlism, a - ah, now that's a differentconcept, when you FEEL the hunge, the homlesness & the refusal of geting to have a job or ownership of anything at all!!!

[@donnielansing-mq5dl]

The real problem with defining socialism is that you begin well after several assumptions are made about human interaction. This creates a sense that each individual category of socialism is itself of a similar complexity to much more broad terms like capitalism. In a practical sense this results in a method of goalpost and retreat when collectivism is addressed at a fundamental level.

[@jupiterjaeden9163]

One note is that not all anarchists are necessarily communist. There are other anarchist tendencies (anarcho-syndicalism, anarcho-collectivism, mutualism, etc.)

[@meeksde]

Jupiter Jaeden You get a title, they get a title, everyone loves a title.

[@Kali_Krause]

Also, Anarcho-capitalism exists too

[@DZ-hh5dw]

@@Kali_Krause Yeah, that's just capitalism with no regulation. Basically would just be an extremely authoritarian state where the business owners would rule everything. I wouldn't even consider that a legitimate school of though; it's just lala land pseudo-intellectual crap. Edit: replace state w/ 'society'

[@jupiterjaeden9163]

“Anarcho”-capitalism has absolutely no connection to actual anarchism. It shares no common history and very few common ideas. Ancaps first emerged in the 1960s with Murray Rothbard (who also stole the word “libertarian”) and have been a nuisance since.

[@LiveGame555]

Anarcho-Capitalists are just as Anarchic as Anarcho-Communists. Anarchism: belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion. Anarcho-Capitalists just believe the best organizations that would arise in such a situation would be businesses, not communes. And no, Anarcho-Capitalists do not believe in an authoritarian state. Can't believe that needed to be said. Socialists can stop complaining about being called communists all the time when they learn the difference between capitalism and corporatism. The only 'pseudo-intellectual lala land crap' would be thinking completely free and liberated people would choose to give away their free will to be part of some collective.

[@1m3agle]

I appreciate someone actually taking the time to explain this, being a capitalist Libertarian where this is basically the exact opposite of my ideology, however given that you actually took the time to explain this instead of just screaming "LOOK IT UP YOU FASCIST PIG" is very informative and helpful to genuine discussion and actually bettering the human race as a whole. because we all agree that we want to better the human race, just disagree on how to do that. I respect you for actually taking the time to make this video and trying to help promote positive discussion

[@junebees8491]

I agree with you. I also think it would be a good to stop using these terms and instead, specifically define a stance to avoid misunderstandings. Example: If someone equates a Libertarian with an Anarchist, which is plausable, they won't listen to you because their judgment has been made. However if you state you are for the freedom to make your own choices & keep your own money, instead of the government making choices for you while spending your money, a person may find they agree with you.

[@robroux6074]

What would the Capitalist spectrum look like? Capitalism: Right- Classical , Reganomics/Thatcherism , Austrian(hayek) Far Right- Corporatism(neo feudalism),Friedmanism Center- Keynesianism Left- Neo Liberalsm(Globalization), progressives Far Left- Democratic Socialist, Fabianism It's almost like the spectrum from both Socialism and Capitalism perform 360s and at most times are intersecting with each other.

[@TheCarloCarlone]

@@robroux6074 horseshoe law

[@BatrickPateman430]

Sorry to break your bubble, but why would you call yourself "capitalist libertarian"? Such a thing does not exist. Each term goes against each other. Might as well just say you're a clown.

[@TheCarloCarlone]

@@BatrickPateman430 wait, doesn't that mean that he believes in private property and in individual freedom?

[@michaelmolina598]

The best breakdown of socialism and the ideologies under its umbrella

[@xibitsidingenskirchen2279]

Actually there is a big mistake hes doing anarchism doesnt need to be communist there is a capitalistic anarchism too

[@lysergidedaydream5970]

@@xibitsidingenskirchen2279 There's... really not. Capitalist anarchism is literally just feudalism with guns, iphones and bitcoin. Just ask Hoppe. Capitalism as we know it can only exist within the confines of a state. Obviously the advent of global capitalism has raised questions about how that will look in the future, but even then, they still operate within the confines of a sort of "confederacy" of nations, and out of a single nation. And if a corporation were to exist on its own in some territory that isn't a country, they would likely lose all of the sophistication we typically think of - publicly traded companies, for example, wouldn't really exist.

[@fowlae4414]

@@xibitsidingenskirchen2279 Capitalism is directly contradictory to anarchism. Anarchism seeks a world with no hierarchies, and when we apply value to people(i.e. money, which is the defining characteristic of Capitalism), that directly contradicts anarchism.

[@xibitsidingenskirchen2279]

@@fowlae4414 tell me a reason why capitalism could not work theoretically without hierachy? It wouldnt be same capitalism we do now experience atm obviously but still capitalism as it is defined

[@xibitsidingenskirchen2279]

@@lysergidedaydream5970 im not speaking of what would work but there is a political theory which is anarchistic and capitalistic and obviously it would be a capitalism which is a bit different but is still capitalism

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

It's a good overview but I don't think it does enough to highlight the problem with communism that socialism abandons - no money, no personal property, and no freedom of belief. Communism may have originally sought to level society, to eliminate power hierarchies. But power hierarchies are endemic to any and all societies of more than 1000 people. It is literally impossible for a society larger than that to exist for any significant amount of time without substantial power hierarchies establishing themselves. Under communism, this hierarchy may not be challenged. And often belief in a "higher power" is crushed as dissent, since the public is supposed to implicitly trust their government to manage the economy perfectly for them. This makes it almost impossible for liberalism and communism to mix, any government which attempts total control of not just private means of production but personal property will end up illiberal in practice. Socialism has no such handicap. Personal property can still be owned and individuals are at liberty to gain and shed possessions as they desire, facilitated through a market and the existence of money. A socialist society may or may not be a liberal democracy, just like a capitalist society may or may not be a liberal democracy. The importance of a liberal democracy is that the hierarchies of power may be challenged and changed without dismantling the whole system, and since power corrupts all individuals, it is a functional necessity of society that the power hierarchy be shaken up periodically, either by peaceful transitions of power or violence. Liberalism saves us from a ton of violence. The problem is that capitalism has a corrosive effect on liberal democracy. In order to defend itself from capital corruption, democratic capitalist society must do eternal battle, between the power achieved politically and the power achieved through wealth acquisition. Social Democracy does this by codifying public services and wealth caps, rigging the economy so that no capitalist can be more powerful than the collective will of the people. This stops well short of the socialist ideal that nobody with wealth freeloads off of the labor of others, but it does at least do the job of maintaining the integrity of the democracy.

[@cover_mystic545]

I like the way that you just presented the arguments of deference in the from of how people see themselves, and how they identify themselves. Makes the whole video more neutral and thus easier to see what ideals are what, and more importantly how they identify themselves among others. At least that’s what I see, and I think that’s great. 👍🙂

[@christclinger6540]

Really making socialism sound ok when in fact you can’t have socialism without theft at its foundation. It’s evil and anyone who thinks it’s a good idea has never lived in a socialist country.

[@soulcapitalist6204]

One problem with that is that he claims Luxemburg was orthodox and this is impossible when she objected to both Marx's politburo dictatorship and the state capitalist political economy of early stage marxist communism.

[@gbcoolsag]

I grew up in USSR. I often talk to people who call themselves socialist without any idea of what socialism or even "means of production" mean. Thanks for making this video.

[@ScorpionXII]

Unless you're above the age of 96, you did not live through the USSR's attempt at building socialism, the transition toward socialism was abandoned roughly a decade after Stalin took power.

[@gbcoolsag]

@@ScorpionXII I don't think you know what you are talking about. Unless you lived in USSR and went to school in Soviet Union you probably know less than me about it. Certainly no one there thought it was "abandoned". And have you known anyone personally who lived through those years? I have. Also, I am glad I did not live through the years when millions in Ukraine died of famine and more shot or sent to gulags. So, you can believe into whatever delusion you have about "transition toward socialism" you want. But please don't lecture me about it.

[@michaelsmith2733]

@@gbcoolsag Lenin did love bloody executions. Stalin watched movies while death warrants were sighed by him for his friends.Great fellow that Stalin.

[@gbcoolsag]

@Red Matter "socialism is when the government does stuff" - I never said that and that's NOT the definition of socialism. But if that's your definition then in USSR the government did almost everything. And USSR was not socialist because Yugoslavia was? What kind of logic is this? Two countries that are not friendly can absolutely both be socialist. You are clearly confused.

[@notastrangeperson2298]

Remember that Stalinism doesn’t equal Socialism

[@jonhoover6034]

While I do disagree with Socialism and Communism, I actually really enjoyed this video. Good job of just giving the facts, I didn't feel as though you were trying to convince me you were right about anything. Great Work!

[@joe6go]

Jonathan Hoover same

[@YourOasis97]

No, he did not give facts. Cuba is a shit hole. Why do you think so many have risked their lives at sea to come here? Everything us expensive can't afford to buy much of what you want and every thing is rationed. The fact he used an image of a fat rich guy saying as low a wage as possible and Cuba saying as high a wage as possible is laughable. Tell that to any Cuban and they'll laugh in your face.

[@joe6go]

YourOasis97 cant we at least give him credit for not forcing anything on us?

[@IvanSN]

YourOasis97 I can't think about any Cuban refugee escaping in recent time. Obviously besides those who ran during the revolution. Can you give an example? Just curious.

[@YourOasis97]

Ivan If you Google Miami, Fl news, you might be able to find a local news outlet of a group of Cuban men arriving on shore on a make shift boat. It still happened quite a bit my cousin being one of them. My family came in 1980 during the Mariel situation where Castro allowed several hundreds of thousands of Cubans. Not anymore though since Obama took out the wet foot dry foot privilege for Cubans. These are just off the top of my head though. Some still try to come through other means.

[@diedoktor]

This is definitely a good starting point for someone who is only familiar with the capitalist framing of these terms, but there are a few innacuracies. First, the USSR was not socialist, as the workers did not own the means of production. Second, anarchists can still support a state if the state is justified by the material conditions. There's also the part where you equivocate the state with the community, when the distinction is both obvious and important. Despite the authoritarian bias it'll at least broaden the conceptions of someone stuck in the rigid capitalist view.

[@soulcapitalist6204]

Collectivized means of production is controlled by the collective government. Capitalism is the proposal that individuals like workers may own the means of production. Anarchists do not support a state. "Material conditions" is marxist and not anarchist talk. There will never be stateless material conditions. Marx who made up the term makes it out to be impossible and untestable - utopian - that any state will melt away from collectivism (in his Critique of the Gotha Program part 1)

[@diedoktor]

@@soulcapitalist6204 I'm more of a classical Marxist but I find myself agreeing with Anarchists more than revisionary post-Marxists like MLs or Trotskyists. I don't see how a state can wither away leaving a communist society without a process of collectivization.

[@soulcapitalist6204]

@@diedoktor ML is orthodox marxism, just praxis of the idea. Marx claims devolution of the state will be utopian, eg requiring labor to become life's primary want among the members of communist society prior to such independence from the state.

[@diedoktor]

@@soulcapitalist6204 There's nothing orthodox about centralizing power and taking control of the means of the means of production away from workers.

[@soulcapitalist6204]

@@diedoktor Marx called for centralized dictatorship between his "Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League", "Critique of the Gotha Program" (parts 1,4), and The Civil War in France. Unlike yourself, Lenin (and I) actually read what Marx wrote. Lenin followed it like rote. You may review his own contention to this effect in his "State and Revolution"

[@xcoder1122]

The main problem is that people confuse social with socialism. Public health care, a public pension system, workers' rights and state welfare are social, but have absolutely nothing to do with socialism. You don't become a socialist state just because you have something like that. Pretty much every country in Western Europe has all that, but most wouldn't even begin to call themselves socialists.

[@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046]

Thats what he said in the video

[@soulcapitalist6204]

@@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 He also conflates socialism with social democracy when Europe today is the result of social democrats shooting socialists dead (eg Luxemburg) from 1917 until 1945, then operating mandatory capitalism under 80 years of US military occupation and capitalist nation building.

[@tompitman8672]

I disagree. We only have these things because of the "left" surge after Das Capital landed on those book shelves

[@xcoder1122]

@@tompitman8672 Public health care and a public pension system were introduced in Germany by Otto von Bismarck who was the German chancellor from 1867 to 1871 and he was anything but left, rather the opposite. He introduced that to improve the conditions of German factory workers and that had nothing to do with Das Kapital, as he strongly opposed that book.

[@soulcapitalist6204]

@@tompitman8672 This is ignorant. Communists fought social democracy (eg German Gotha and Erfurt programs.) They were not even invited to first Reichstag, UKNHS is from capitalist economist John Keynes, Europe's social state is from capitalist US Marshall Plan and conservative economist Ragnar Frisch, etc.

[@senhorkorracha]

Sweden: "no you can't sell your grandma for profit" Sweden in 2020: "about that grandma..."

[@userytx]

The wonders of the Third Way

[@mikehyland4825]

L o L !!

[@that1guy246]

@@ghevisartor6005 yeah, they were denying care for the elderly so that they can focus on the youth. This actually happened in most countries were health care isn't privatized.

[@DoesntHurtYet]

@@that1guy246 including Australia. Public healthcare can't handle crisis or multiculturalism, the load is too great.

[@catburglar82]

@@that1guy246 If that is true, it's remarkably "unswedish" of sweden.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

Amazing how the comments is people STILL trying to give their own definitions of these ideologies. 🤦

[@diazkohen2149]

It's because Rightist Point of view

[@skullisfuckingdead5584]

the thing is these ideologies arent set in stone; theyre flexible and dont exactly have clear boundaries. people still argue about what countries are socialist/communist. its like politics; not so objective.

[@armondtanz]

We all hate being no bodies. We are all jealous , full of envy and resentful. Take this beautiful equation... What happens when a arrogant self serving narrcasist & obnoxius egotist is of low status class. A person who wants all the splenders in life but has not got the ounce of energy to get out and work hard for it... Then him and his (group) of ppl will find an opportunity to band together and take from the hard working , talanted, entrepreneur.... Thats it. Its just a human emotion which lies in us all....

[@primaldewott8689]

@@armondtanz Shut up lmfao

[@armondtanz]

@@primaldewott8689 hmmmmm, did i hit a nerve?

[@WillySalami]

You could've have mentioned something like the fact that there are fascistic movements (like NazBols or Strasserrists) who, unlike most Fascisms that are capitalist, are Socialist, further showing the quantity of ideologies possible.

[@lemming2570]

National Socialism isn’t really… socialism. Other than by name, they don’t share a lot of qualities because they’re complete opposite wings of politics.

[@thetimuridhorde9539]

As someone whose political views drift left and right all the time, i really enjoyed this video and found it very interesting. Thank you for this.

[@mmawithsubtitles7460]

The Timurid Horde I feel the same. I guess that's what makes Norway so atractive. Seems like they were able to have a good balance between both

[@am_I_or_am_I_not]

I agree

[@ScamallDorcha]

Max Otto I'm guessing he just isn't sure whether to go for socialist or for fascism.

[@jurgenshantz4273]

Max Otto political spectrum tests aren’t an accurate representation of your political stance. They are far too simplistic

[@LuchoCastle_11]

That's called being a Centrist.

[@tomio8072]

damn these comments sure are depressing.

[@0meg797]

in what way?

[@tomio8072]

BeeflessWolf 53 it seems like most people aren’t even capable of listening, they just have to jump in with the same talking points which people repeat without any critical thought, and people are so hostile that they can’t see sometime which has historically helped them the most. It just makes me despair that people aren’t even willing to entertain or even consider these things. That’s how I see it at least

[@0meg797]

@@tomio8072 by "historically helped them the most" do you mean communism?

[@__chinmay__]

@@tomio8072 lol some people in the comment section say fascism and socialism are the same

[@tomio8072]

Chi ! There is a long way to then lol

[@quakeknight9680]

"The goal of socialism is communism" -Vladimir Ilich Lenin- Edit: and stop liking.

[@quakeknight9680]

@pop sickles i... dont know anything other...

[@Reyes-hz9pl]

pop sickles the USSR would like to disagree

[@Reyes-hz9pl]

pop sickles oh wait...

[@pedrogomespg.5882]

pop sickles no.... it’s not. It’s not the best because you have never been into one and the people wouldn’t know how to react, interact or socialize properly

[@Reyes-hz9pl]

pop sickles capitalism has its flaws but it’s still the best system to live under. Just stop.

[@assassinsrequiem]

Under capitalism you can add oligarchy, monarchy, dictatorships, and republics.

[@hughbetcha436]

"The road to Communism go's through Socialism" Vladimir Lenin

[@rengraphics_]

straight fax king

[@Fr33zeBurn]

@@algrundau9441 They aren't socialist. Did you even watch the video. Literally NONE of those countries have any socialism or communism. They have taxation which is used for social purposes but that is benevolent capitalism.

[@Fr33zeBurn]

@@algrundau9441 Didn't realise I was replying to your comments twice haha >.< but yeah in the US the 'right-wing' is entrenched against anything with social or universal in the name. Fiscally I think that under their current budget constraints the US would be in financial crisis if social programs were brought in suddenly, so I think they're being frugal, despite how uncaring it sounds. You could argue that they should spend less on military but considering the number of US enemies jockeying for power I don't think that's a good idea. The US and other UN nations are relied upon by the world for military aid and falling behind in that sector would be irresponsible and the result would be potentially catastrophic. Anyway I do understand that conservative media portrays Sweden etc. as 'socialist hellholes' where you can't get a heart transplant or cancer removal without waiting until you die. (Which in some cases is true, I live in the UK where free healthcare has existed since the 1950s and queues are huge) but equally, labelling them as socialist is incorrect. But I notice the left call them socialist as well as a beacon of their ideology. It is all semantics, liberal is another term that is thrown around a lot and I think it's use is far too vague. Vague labels are the bane of modern society to be honest, everything from 'racist' to 'WMDs' to 'journalist' are just applied to anything these days :P

[@umut967]

fuck both

[@a12475]

@@umut967 fuck you ignorant capitalist

[@kapiladhikari9307]

"Socialism: some of dont like capitalism and some of us may like it." -Karl from Mr. Beast

[@jasonterry1959]

This is obviously minor, but you really should say "anarchocommunism," instead of "anarchism".

[@ericaaiko8663]

didnt you know? Ancaps are believers of socialism lmao

[@jasonterry1959]

@@ericaaiko8663 Well, to be fair, the video IS just about leftism, so it's somewhat understandable to not make the distinction, but I still believe it should have been made. Furthermore, most left wing anarchists don't believe ancaps are "real anarchists" because, in their eyes, capitalism leads to coercive hierarchy (which is debatable, at best). But even if you DO believe that, it still doesn't excuse not calling an established ideology by its real name, imo

[@OTNIPAI]

I think that since in the graph it was shown under communism it was to be understood :o

[@jasonterry1959]

@@OTNIPAI No, like I stated earlier, Most ancoms don't believe that ancaps are actually anarchists, and often refuse to acknowledge their ideology.

[@ethandemille2585]

Ricardo To be fair I’m pretty sure the original ideology of anarchism was the leftist version. Also anarcho-capitalism makes no sense lmao

[@Skorch88]

I found d it funny that you placed all anarchists under communism. Let say we get to a stateless society. How would you be able to prevent two or more from trading services and goods for capital profits?

[@lukian5]

personal profit isnt the big issue under communism. you can trade under communism. Problem is if private companies exist and the believe in anarchism is that people will regulate this problem by themselfes, although i personally find anarchism is the most flwaed of the all

[@soulcapitalist6204]

​@@lukian5 Personal profit and private enterprise are the same. The latter is just a best practice for obtaining personal profit.