Mevo Plus vs. Trackman 4 Outdoors with Pro Package

[@jonb2437]

This review was super helpful and very informative. If you are trying to build consistency with your swing, it's really all about understanding club path, face angle, and low point. Great to know it was in line with trackman!!

[@scotthogangolf]

It really is, I couldn't agree more, if you understand those metrics and apply those to the ball, you'll be amazed at how the swing looks!

[@angrybuzzy]

This is exciting stuff, Scotty HG and you are really hitting your stride! Your videos have always been informative and entertaining and they just keep getting better. You are the source for Mevo+ information and you're also becoming the go to channel for how to use a launch monitor to get better. Thank you for your hard work, sir.

[@vikingsfan9049]

how close was 1. spin loft, 2. dynamic loft, 3. vertical swing plane, and 4.spin axis?

[@benoitguitard2887]

A new quality video from Scott. It made me think about 2 points : I should find or build a case for my Mevo+ that can protect it and its external battery pack from the sun and the rain; People discussing about Launch monitor on forums focus a lot on driver shots but amateurs and pro who teaches to amateurs don’t need more than a 8 yards accuracy over 230 yards outside at the contrary they need good numbers for all the shots that attack the flag (distance VS closest to the pin contests). I would like to know what is the loss in accuracy between the modes (short indoor, indoor, outdoor,…), I have only one Mevo+ it could be interesting to do some testing with two. Thank you for your good content.

[@ambientgolf]

That's true unless you'd also like to play rounds on e6 and your driver is carrying 235 instead of the 265 it carries in real life. It makes simulator golf a lot less fun.

[@benoitguitard2887]

@@ambientgolf true, I use e6 too and I avoid to use driver indoor more because I am afraid to break the club head hurting an obstacle or to pierce a dry wall again with a ball 😬. Physics can’t be changed, somebody who carry 265 yards swing to fast for short indoor and indoor mode …

[@dabdias]

Great review, I’m really to know that the mevo+ w/ pro package compared so well against Trackman. Do you know if hitting of a mat with the ball teed up can affect AOA readings? I’m getting positive AOA reads with irons and wedges and it’s hard to square those reads with ball flight and dynamic loft difference to static loft (static larger than dynamic). Thanks

[@scotthogangolf]

I'd check your measurements but I do see it off mats because people really aren't hitting down through the ball and they are actually catching some mat first. Something to check out if you're looking at it.

[@Tristenlerpold]

So i have heard the flightscope has to be in a direct line behind your ball. being on grass doesn't that make it a little difficult? I mean you move the ball sides ways due to divots.

[@scotthogangolf]

You have a small area, I believe 3 inches wide? You can still get ball data and all that but the club data would start to skew. Hitting off grass with any launch monitor that is always an issue when the turf gets used you have to move.

[@gotigers716]

How did moving the hitting area slightly after every shot (due to divots) impact any of the pro / club data? That’s been one of my concerns on the range

[@scotthogangolf]

If you get too far off it can start to affect it, that is one of the benefits of the more expensive units is they have the ability to adjust for movement of the ball.

[@ppierpont]

I don't think the differences between the two units with longer clubs is any big deal because, as a percentage matter, 3 yards at 100 and 7.5 yards at 250 are the same amount of error (3%).

[@scotthogangolf]

I agree especially for the price difference, I'll take it.

[@becrisp]

Hi @Scott hogan golf, I’m starting to look through your videos, but in the meantime, does the Pro package have the option to store club distance data like the Rapsodo or SC300i?

[@scotthogangolf]

You can store sessions from when you're hitting, if that's what you're asking. I don't think it will take all your data and give you an average for that club from all your sessions. But you can hit shots with a club and see the average and all that, and that session would get stored.

[@par4geo1]

In Central FL, I've not experience Mevo+ overheating, but my iPhone sure did. I bought an umbrella that clamps to the tripod to shade the iPhone from the sun. Are you saying the Mevo+ overheated?

[@scotthogangolf]

No iPads did

[@ambientgolf]

I'm going to guess that the Mevo+ was consistently shorter? I'm on a Trackman often and when I compare my indoor Trackman numbers to my outdoor Mevo+ numbers, my driver is always around 10 yards shorter than Trackman. Indoor Mevo+ readings are more like 30 yards short, but I chalk that up to the fact that I only have 8 feet of ball flight and my swing speed is around 110. I'd love for Flightscope to fix this issue, but it's not a huge deal. Great video, as always!

[@paybax]

I was thinking the Mevo would read longer on those limited flight balls as it assumed it was a normal ball.

[@g.hanninen]

@@paybax great point

[@performancepsychologypodca1033]

Great video Scott! Many thanks. Any chance you could do a simulator video using the pro package vs the Gc quad and any tips on how to improve accuracy with the mevo ie dots on balls or titleist’s indoor simulator ball

[@marklavery4838]

Hi Scott just out of curiosity what was the yardage differences when using the driver? Thanks again for your very informative video. Cheers Mark

[@scotthogangolf]

8-10 yards typically. Sometimes closer but pretty consistent.

[@lazerflavor]

Can you run them at the same time since they’re both radar based units?

[@scotthogangolf]

Yes, the TM is good at seeing around objects too and can be set off to the side as well. We got good reads on everything while doing it.

[@tgates811]

How far off was it at the longer distances of 230+ ?

[@scotthogangolf]

Not much, maybe 5-8 yards on most shots, and it was consistent.

[@Jarhead0331]

What’s your take on hitting into a backyard net vs range numbers?

[@scotthogangolf]

Works good, driver might be a touch short depending on how much ball flight you have, but in my short indoor setup, mine unfortunately are right on the money which means I'm getting older and slower and not hitting it as far as I would like.

[@623baller]

@@scotthogangolf how much ball to net distance do you have for your indoor set up?

[@scotthogangolf]

@@623baller I have 8 feet

[@saneshanreddy7166]

Another great mevo+ video. Thank you for all the content. Really appreciate this. This is my go to place for learning on my mevo+

[@wessmall9169]

Great video Scott.. Out of interest did you notice any difference in Launch Angle on driver between the 2 devices?

[@Jatama]

Great video. Would have been nice to see numbers on the screen tho. More hitting, more data and a bit less talking ;). Good video!

[@MA-re2oj]

Great video Scott! Could you please do a demo on how to get multicam working on the mevo plus?

[@scotthogangolf]

Friday!

[@redfox0099]

Multicam isn’t complicated. Just have the app turned on and start the FS app. Go into a session and click on the camera view like you used to. There select how many cameras you want to use.

[@scotthogangolf]

@@redfox0099 You just have to ignore the warnings about X3 that will pop up for some as the app needs updating.

[@vik7540]

Could the device stop reading data if overheated

[@scotthogangolf]

I've never seen that happen to me.

[@cmiller8006]

How was club head and ball speed?

[@scotthogangolf]

Both were identical within 1/2 mph usually.

[@cmiller8006]

@@scotthogangolf good to know, I just got mevo plus with pro. Was excited to see club speeds, now to slow down and make better contact.

[@paulkielwasser481]

You didn’t say how much the separation was with driver, you just said it was greater… So, what was the difference???

[@scotthogangolf]

I thought I said it went up to around 8 yards or so, but maybe I forgot, but that's what it was.

[@VoodooZ]

Great video buddy. Always great to hear confirmation that you bought the "right" things.. Videos like this cement my confidence in the numbers which helps me trust it when practicing because it was a bit shocking at first.. my club path is a lot better than I first thought.. Club face at impact is a disaster though. thanks.

[@scotthogangolf]

Thanks again! and yes that's what's great about the numbers to have, now you KNOW that your club face is something to work on and you can focus on that and not worry about other things. Also, you mentioned you used something for your computer for your sim, what was that device called again?

[@VoodooZ]

@@scotthogangolf you mean the HDMI extender?

[@scotthogangolf]

Yes, are you running a cable from the basement to the PC?

[@VoodooZ]

Once you have a good idea what fits your need you can check the cheaper alternatives but keep in mind there's a lot of crap on amazon. I used the 4kip100-kvm product without any issues.. Message me for more details as there's a big distinction between the various implementations. cheers. (fyi, I'm not affiliated with them)

[@vikingsfan9049]

Scott, you said this guy is a +6 handicap. The average on the PGA in 2020 was +5.4 handicap and that year DJ had the highest with +6.5 handicap. You are saying this guy is WAYYY above the average PGA Tour Pro?

[@scotthogangolf]

I've never doubted that he has the physical skills to compete at the highest level. If you come to AZ or Florida you will see many players who on any given day can beat players on Tour. The club champ at Whisper Rock (where 20-30 PGA Tour Players play) was not a tour player for 6 years straight. For whatever reason (money, desire, luck, performance under pressure, good timing) all factor into being able to get on tour. But I think you'll see him go out and shoot some low ones if you watch him play in his weekly rounds he plays.

[@vikingsfan9049]

@@scotthogangolf That is absolutely nuts. It makes me feel bad about myself!

[@vikingsfan9049]

@@scotthogangolf I just started golfing in June of last year 2021 and I'm already a 6.7 handicap off just natural athletic ability. I go and get golf lessons at golftec as well. My coach believes I will be a scratch golfer in a couple more years, but a +6 seems absolutely insane to me.

[@razor7241]

Scott I have a Mevo + with the pro package. I haven’t been able to use it very much yet due to an injury but the few times I have used it my spin numbers with my driver have been WAY off. I’ve been getting numbers ranging from 1900 to 6000! I’m a 1 hndcp so pretty much know my numbers (don’t think I’ve ever hit a driver with 6500 rpm spin). I called Flightscope and the technical support rep told me it was because I was using range balls. Even if I select range balls my spin numbers are all over the place. Can you think of any other reasons for these results? I’ve followed the set up procedure as accurately as I can. Could the device be defective? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[@paybax]

That’s outdoors?

[@razor7241]

@@paybax yes. I only hit balls outdoors. I don’t have an indoor facility.

[@seanbecker8328]

If you hit down on it with a open face you could have driver spin numbers up to 6000 but that is high, I’ve seen really good players hit some bad drives that spin a lot like 4500-5000. it’s usually a mis hit or it’s a mis read it’s usually bc of the attack angle to down and spin loft is very high probably from open face. I’d check the AoA numbers first and see if they are outta wack or not.

[@razor7241]

@@seanbecker8328 My AOA is consistently between +1 and +3 and I VERY rarely hit the ball low on the club head (most common miss is high toe). My normal ball flight is a small draw. Plus, I’ve been on trackman and my spin is usually a little too high for my liking, but between 2400 and 2800 rpm. I’m wondering if It is the range balls (Callaway range balls), how I am settting up the unit, OR a unit that is defective when it comes to reading spin? I have to add that I have a Autoflex shaft which I think spins the ball more than most shafts. I had a regular Mevo before getting the Mevo + and NEVER got spin numbers in the 5000-6000 range with it with the same club! Thoughts/recommendations?

[@ObsessedGarbageDotCon]

I’m sure when outdoor the flight scope holds its own but if you are doing anything indoors I would skip it. Seen way too many different numbers when indoors.

[@scotthogangolf]

I guess for some that is possible, for me they read exactly the same, and measure up with what I'm hitting the ball on the course. But setups can vary for different people.

[@imasspeons]

It wasn't bad with my indoor setup (112mph SS, 10-12' flight depending on when I had permanent vs portable) and it was still really close until I got up to 2i, 4w and driver. Not a deal-breaker by any means, though radar varies so wildly between environments that it's always going to be a dice roll when you put one in a space for the first time.

[@CardinalWildcats]

Would love to see an Google Sheet comparing the readings from some two, as well as some of the situations where the ball flight was most off and how they looked in each, but otherwise great video, thanks Scott!

[@scotthogangolf]

I wish I would have done that, but was thinking I'd be able to snag a screenshot of the data table before the device died. Lesson learned.

[@ambientgolf]

@@scotthogangolf Was driver distance on Mevo+ consistently shorter? That's what I've been seeing when comparing my indoor Trackman number (265 carry) to outdoor Mevo+ (250 carry).

[@ambientgolf]

fwiw my real life carry distance is 260-265. There's a lake on my home course which is 260 to carry, and I can cover it pretty easily.

[@scotthogangolf]

@@ambientgolf Yes but maybe not by that much, but range balls, weather and all that would play into the read you're getting.

[@duffer0309]

Great video. Keep the great content coming!

[@alijones1751]

Scott another great video!

[@scotthogangolf]

Wooooo!