MG 4 EV VS BYD Atto 3 - price, batteries, warranty & range compared

MG 4 EV VS BYD Atto 3 - price, batteries, warranty & range compared
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[@slightlyskewed]

Sam. The MG4 comes standard with Android Auto and Apple Car play and importantly a full 7 year warranty. It's also expecting an NCAP rating of 5

[@dgurevich1]

Can't tell you about the MG4 but I can say that in the year and 35000km my MG ZS is absolutely perfect. I can at least attest to the build quality.

[@rossjames6811]

Had a MG5 EV for 18 months. Great car. I'm waiting until 2023 when the dual motor version MG4 launches in the UK. No experience with the BYD but I highly rate MG.

[@gregandkaruna6674]

Yeah that crazy 330kw AWD MG4 with close to Model 3 performance specs with a price tag probably much lower that the Model 3 standard range.

[@kabirjones8563]

The MG4 is a great car and amazing value but it maybe to small for you and it doesn't have roof bars for the bikes either. I had an MG ZS EV for 2 yrs and I now have an MG5 LR. I've had no problems with either. Without MG I couldn't afford to run 2 EVs, their prices are great and I really like my MG5 what a great car, its a pleasure to drive and live with. Thanks for the EV videos. I

[@craigo2656]

Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp_QkoyGmtyseJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5qreoeHe9mHh9E The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3fNgHyniNqbhZo China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnrclqGHYtOdorM kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXOeXSVYt2lr80

[@michaelstarkey9745]

Great comment ty

[@yggdrasil9039]

If MG4 comes in under $40k in Australia it will be a massive hit, especially if it has a LFP battery with a reasonable real world range.

[@jackhuo2758]

Isnt the British price around 26k pounds for the base model which is about 45k AUD. I don't think it'll get in under 40k. It'd likely be more around the price of the atto3.

[@yggdrasil9039]

@@jackhuo2758 True. I think Australian EV prices from China tend to be a little bit cheaper than UK price though. That's true for some other EVs. I hope so for MG4 anyway, as we are so far behind on EVs.

[@andrewmeikle5527]

We live in the UK and are very seriously swapping our 2 x Renault Zoe’s for 2 x MG 4s

[@dougonutube]

Just ordered an MG4 after a fun test drive (to replace our 3 year old ZS EV). It's a brilliant car and for the price a complete no-brainer!! We've really enjoyed our ZS EV for the last 3 years, so I really rate MG as a manufacturer - comfortable, reliable, well built, great equipment level, and now with the MG4 great range and really stylish too.

[@niallbenn]

I think it was one of the dealer network updates in UK but the smaller batter version of MG is LFP. There where some notes on it being better to charge to 100% with reduced degradation. Maybe helps you decide!

[@havencat9337]

Can't go wrong with any, MG is very popular here in UK and has great reviews from everyone;)

[@sinchaipiathanom9005]

I only have two concern for Mulan 1) the "Ground Clearance" level for the safetyness of battery pack and 2) Does Mulan have Heat Pump?

[@adamdukat3693]

For me, it is Atto 3 -- hands down! My "likes", plus specks - make my choice. If You compare Atto 3 to BYD Seal -- it would be a Seal. But waiting time -- makes that diff to me. So for me? It is Atto 3 all the way. I am too old - to wait forever! Plus I love the interior of Atto very much. Weak regen will be a pain in the but - no choice so! And I do consider myself Your friend! Agree. All the best Sammy. Your friend from Adelaide. Bye.

[@barryhaeger4284]

Just a note on battery chemistry. The 51 kWh in UK is LFP whereas the 64 kWh (61 kWh usable) is Li-Ion. The larger battery size has the option for daily charging to set a limit (recommended by MG at 80%) and 80% of 64 is roughly 51 interesting about the same capacity as the entry level LFP which is recommended to charge to 100% every day! 0-60 mph (0-102 kph) of the top UK spec 64 kWh is a little slower than the lower spec trim but in 2023 UK will get both an extender range of 71 kWh and the 4-wheel drive two motor variant quoted as Sub 4 second 0-60 mph PS I've ordered the Top Spec and could take delivery within 6 to 8 weeks

[@terrymackenzie6784]

I was trying to find this information for a long time as I wanted the LFP battery type for that very reason, where did you get this information, does this apply to the MG4?

[@airrodgers7277]

@@terrymackenzie6784 if you want LFP go BYD…they make the best LFP battery today…they were using LFP when everyone was following Elon going all NMC…Now even ELon going LFP..

[@maxpesh]

MG 4 is selling like crazy in the UK

[@pommiedownunder1]

Having had my M3LR now for a couple of weeks I am so glad I have gone for a Tesla. A model Y for you would give you the peace of mind of the battery and technology. Keep up the good work.

[@lolliesbox4235]

As BYD Australia has alienated so many Australian people with its poor manufacturer warranties and high service costs that are out of market, BYD is now known internationally for its price gouging practice. With BYD’s international image tarnished, hopefully BYD China will now take control from BYD Australia, EV Direct and their Australian maintenance providers, align its warranties and servicing costs to match acceptable & normal market levels in order to repair the damage to its reputation internationally.

[@evolaner]

I think the problem is technically there is no"BYD Australia" , it gave out almost all the control to this third party distribution company. If they have started with " BYD Australia" things could be different.

[@t3hpwninat0r]

There's a standard range, long range, and a long range with all the bells and whistles (360 camera, lights on the tailgate, fancy split spoiler) called Trophy, but has different names in different countries. The clever bit though, the thing the car magazines and reviewers aren't saying: the standard range trim is the one with LFP battery meaning you can happily charge to 100% and get near the same range as the more expensive trims. One more thing to note: 4WD and high performance versions will come next year but will obviously be more expensive. This is a great move by MG; coming to market before Tesla Giga Berlin ramps up.

[@mlohr1]

Sure, but that depends on how much MG can deliver to Europe and how fast. Like for Germany MG promised the first 1.000 deliveries still for 2022.

[@nnoonan9514]

Byd over MG4 if your from NZ. Australia a tougher decision but Atto 3 is sold extensively throughout China with no issues about quality. MG doesn't get as good reviews in China or isn't considered prestigious. Also the blade battery is piece of mind.

[@haoruchen4216]

byd isn't prestigious, anywhere.

[@dalekloss4682]

hopefully it is also peace of mind

[@nnoonan9514]

@@haoruchen4216 may have been the wrong choice of words particularly for you obviously 🙃. Biggest selling Chinese brand with 800 000 pre orders. Chinese knowing there electric vehicle companies better than any other country. Price, quality and design with innovation and mass production without supply chain shortages seems to be working better than most and trusted by there own market. Sure they aren't perfect and have problems like other companies. I prefer them over MG having driven both and owning an Atto 3.

[@official-hb4mr]

@@haoruchen4216 Never comment if you can't understand what the writer really wants to convey. Thanks

[@craigo2656]

Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp_QkoyGmtyseJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5qreoeHe9mHh9E The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3fNgHyniNqbhZo China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnrclqGHYtOdorM kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXOeXSVYt2lr80

[@malcolmrickarby2313]

I really like the MG4 and for reasons not mentioned yet. COLOURS, are available instead of the boring black,white and greys of so many cars at the moment. Price , range and recharge time seem fine. Finish and drivability excellent. A great way to brighten up your day. Shame that you missed the best weather that Melbourne has seen over winter last weekend but today is not bad weather after an inch of rain to welcome you back from Alice Springs.🤔

[@johnfrancis4401]

Who else gives it to us straight like you? Thanks Sam you’re pretty unique. No doesn’t rain ALL the time. We are presently experiencing the driest 6 months for 90 years 😆

[@marcwatson455]

1. You can have the Atto 3 serviced anywhere and Oz Consumer Laws have you covered. 2. Warranty is superseded by reasonable service clause in Consumer Law as well as Case Law or Precedent.

[@JohnSmith-oh9iv]

Yes, you're right. However, if anything goes wrong you end up in a fight.

[@marcwatson455]

@@JohnSmith-oh9iv I'm retired, so I have lots of time 😊

[@chrisnewman7281]

I think when you look at local car prices you also have to factor in how the local Distributor packages the cars. For example Kia in the UK officers the NiroEV in three different levels With a number of options available, where is in Australia The local distributor has decided that they want to be two models available and that cheaper of the two models has removed one of the key selling points, the Kia connect the Internet connect app to control the car functions.

[@ericspectral5874]

I am a long time supporter of your channel. Wonderful content. Now on your predicament: Do the obviously right thing! Cancel that BYD order! NOW! Really. Do not hesitate. And at the same time feel grateful (even enthused) that they are delayed so that cancellation is still possible. Great situation, do not hesitate any longer. Also this is about self-respect, do not be treated by BYD-distribution the way they think they can. With your investment thoughts (on patreon) for years now => just get that Model Y. Do not micro-optimize about the battery-type. You know that this is the car that you love and that is right for your family.

[@rogerosborne4142]

I'm in the same boat Sam, my Atto3 due in Dec. so depending on the outcome of the petition I too will be looking at the M.G. !! Surely BYD will come to their senses ?!

[@marcelarias3741]

Viking, Get the model Y, you wont regret it. I currently have a MG ZS EV and can tell you the MG Pilot cruise control dosnt use regen braking (so i hardly use it as it reduces range), it drives like a granny when cornering (reduces speed and cant find a way to turn that of in the menues). I suspect the Atto3 cruise control also doesnt use regen as reviews online dont mention it. Regen braking is nice but is weak when you compare it to a Tesla which will bring the car to a stop. To illustrate this point, i live at the top of a steep hill (Tasmanian) and my MG will coast down the hill at 60kph with maximum regen, whilst a Model 3 i rented actually came to a full stop with its regen in the same location. In the MG, the Computer system takes a couple of minutes before it actually displays the speedo on the display (I know there is also an old style analog speedo). Self steering on Australian roads is absolutely not fit for purpose on the MG, whereas the Teslas is ok for the most part. Regarding over the air updates, SAIC is a large manufacturer with a huge range of models whose life cycle is 3 to 4 years at best. Do you beleave they will be vested in keeping older models updated with new OTA software updates instead of incentifying to purchase their newest latest and greatest. BYD also seems to turn over model at a frequent rate. Only Tesla is unique in having models with long life cycles which get OTA improvements during its life. I am sure you have done enough research to know how much imbeded value a Tesla vehicle has over the competition. Here is a prediction, Elon will buy out Lucid and incorporate some of its tech into its Model S/X. Cheers mate and keep up the good work.

[@paulb1951]

He’s not interested in the old MG EV’s, you wasted a lot of time with an irrelevant comment…

[@marcelarias3741]

@@paulb1951 you missed my point about model obsolescence. My MG ZS is just 1 year old and it already has been replaced by a new model. On top of that, the MG4 is around the corner and will be cheaper and better. Polstar 2 is already getting updated . BYD has a track record of turning over models just like SAIC. Once your car is no longer the current model, its resale value drops and software updates become non existant. Volkswagen had OTA capability in its ID range, how did that go. There was one report of Polstar 2 getting an OTA update, but its OS was very imature when first shiped out. The MG ZS EV has a mobile phone app for the asian market, India had a battery update prior to the facelift model but Australia/UK got the shitier infotainment/vehicle software. Long gone are the days that a car is just the hardware.

[@maxwellsmart228]

Yep I’m definitely considering the MG4 over the BYD Atto 2/3 and Ora Good Cat!

[@rohankilby4499]

Hey Sam, the Model Y best choice but I'll wait a while for prices and battery tech to improve. To buy now based on price, LFP battery, ground clearance and internal space gotta be the atto 3 for me.

[@kayak1969p]

I'm from UK m8 and getting mg4vtrophy in October can't wait...I have it on good authority from friends it's an amazing car packed with features....

[@peterball8241]

Pick the one you like the most. I bought the MG5, half the price of the cheapest Tesla in the UK and plenty of space, performance and refinement.

[@brucekennedy5274]

Test drove one - bloody loved it, drives beautifully. Basically same size as id3, looks way cooler, better kit and way cheaper. If it’s big enough for you, it’s gold.

[@youdonthavetoreadthispost.5850]

Looks like we are getting there no Viking. The MG sporting history is not lost on me(former '67MGB). I'm intrigued and will investigate this further. Thank you!

[@aftonline]

Sam, why not buy an MG ZS for now, and also put your name down for a Model Y. You can sell the MG when the Model Y arrives but al least you will have saved money in the meantime and can also evaluate the difference in quality when you have driven both cars.

[@petermclaren2665]

I've had an MG3 and now have a 2 litre AWD turbo - both ice cars - but they've been brilliant. One was made in China and the other in Thailand.

[@johnlee4681]

Big reason for the rise of small SUV sales worldwide is the ease of getting in and out. The older I get the more important this is! Nothing wrong with any of your 3 choices but for me, age 65, its the Tesla Y or the BYD. If they ever arrive in NZ then I go the BYD route as long as the importers play fair with the customer........

[@textliter]

They've been delivering cars in NZ for more than a month now. (BYD)

[@Joshuavmeer]

Good vid! Any reason you don't cover Fisker yet? They're production starts in November, and they have a quality vehicle and sold out 5000 premium trims already. Would love your views and thought on it!

[@joenorman8259]

Hi. Of the 3 choices. Which one has the best warranty?

[@deant007]

Hi Sam, if you don’t have a Tesla (I don’t think you do), then Model Y. Cheers 🥂 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@fred-bevhogendorn8023]

What about V to L capacity? Can the MG/BYD/Tesla power my house when it is plugged in to my solar grid?

[@edc5978]

Really enjoying our atto3. It does regen in cruise control

[@SriHari-th4yq]

Sam, informative review of the MG Electric car. You didn't emphasise enough the better ride handling ability of the MG, which seems far superior to BYD. That should be the biggest reason to switch to the MG electric car.

[@peteturner8493]

Battery type (safety), range and time to charge would be my main considerations along with the car warranty. The MG will do well in the UK considering the low entry price and hopeful dictate price to other EV manufacturers.

[@tomjones913]

if you have a dog the Y well fit your family nicely my dog fits in the back

[@tonybliss577]

MG4 overall winner for price:quality ratio. One thing you did not mention is that the MG has V2L feature as a hidden extra and possibly future V2G in OTA update which is going to be a huge benefit for powering your electronics or possibly your home on cheap renewable energy as well as being a possible money earner selling electricity back to the grid. As BYD nor Tesla has laid out their V2G strategy of yet the MG4 wins hands down in relation to future proofing your investment.

[@lawaataling]

The BYD Atto 3 has V2L - though no mention of V2G yet.

[@tonybliss577]

@@lawaataling that's cool! It's nice to have a choice of good EVs.

[@agelec1]

Apparently the standard range uses the LFP chemistry but the longer range uses the NMC chemistry, according to Forbes.

[@peterball7789]

Sam, like you I still haven't decided whether to cancel my Atto 3 order after the fiasco of the past couple of weeks. I'm still considering, but the more I think about it the more I think I should cancel. A pity, because from what I've seen BYD make a very good product. If only you could buy online, as it seemed in the beginning.

[@Darky.]

An easy choice for me if atto 3 service and warranty details weren’t so awful. The LFP battery tech is a must have and I like the atto 3 interior and internal space. For price point the atto 3 is a great car. It’s just a shame BYD used 3rd parties to distribute the vehicle.

[@hammer8828]

Exactly! Its not BYDs fault. Just greedy distributor

[@davidelliott5843]

BYD either chose a useless distributor or they put onerous conditions on the distributor. Either, way shows a management that expects it’s products to fail in the longer term.

[@craigo2656]

Fake MG, Shame on any cheapskate buying Chinese Cars! You have no dignity or principles. We are literally at war with China and you are trying to promote their industry. Think further than a quick buck today. Don't you want your kids to live in a free world? Support western leaning nations industry i.e. UK, EU, US, S Korea, Japan etc... Your future if you buy Chinese brands ( made in china is different, profits go to western nations, western people, and western technology companies ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp_QkoyGmtyseJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5qreoeHe9mHh9E The future for your family friends and children will be controlled forever by the Chinese, what they decide you will do, no freedom, no protest, no choice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3fNgHyniNqbhZo China is not yet strong enough, there is still a chance for a future where democracy and choice remains dominant. If you make the right decisions now the world still has a chance for a democratic future. You might be silly enough to think you have no choice now. This means you do not really understand what it is like to live under a truly totalitarian regime. In the 1980's women who became pregnant for a second time were dragged by police in to makeshift hospitals and forced abortions were performed. No one could stop the state doing this. That is China yesterday and that is China today. The same single party rules in China. The video below is from only 13 years ago. If they are willing to do this to their own people, what will they do once they have power over you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnrclqGHYtOdorM kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJXOeXSVYt2lr80

[@zaphodsbluecar9518]

The standard-range MG4 uses LFP batteries.

[@MrTree421]

the most low end Battery chemistry as a must have feature. What a world.

[@kyliefan7]

Great video Sam!! I’m glad you cancelled your “ATTO 3” (I’m sorry i really hate that name!) but I do think the MG 4EV is nicer!

[@goodgravy3284]

Any insights on v2L capability compare to the atto?

[@awc900]

I like the Cupra Born but I doubt it's worth the price premium over the MG 4. The MG 4 is getting good reviews everywhere. It'll be interesting to see how the 2 motor all wheel drive version performs.

[@hobaho]

Hi Viking, Love your videos! One problem with the MG4 for a family, is it doesn’t have air vents in the second row. Also no LFP battery is a big one. If you can fit the model Y in your driveway, that is a wonderful car. Also has the option of FSD. I can’t fit a model Y, so I’m just hoping Tesla will come to their senses and make something this size. Although I’m prepared to wait up to 4 years for the right car (assuming my current car will survive that long).

[@profdraper]

Agreed: the rear passenger area is very spartan and no variant provides a pano roof (unlike the Atto 3). More intersting perhaps: this is a new, ground up EV skateboard from MG & unlike the ICE retrofits of the Mk1 & Facelifted MG ZS EVs. Shall be interesting then to see what other vechicles are produced using this platform, in particular, a MK3 SV EV. And oh, I wouldn't be so positive about MG Australia support (vs EV Direct for example); my experience in owning an MG ZS EV for the last year or so indicates that while the car is quite brilliant in many ways, MG AU not so much. They never really respond to anything and seem hopeless in the supply of any spare parts, a bit of a concern if an acciden happens or if there are any warranty issues. Some customers report months waiting for parts & obviously they ned to be imported vs. keeping stock on hand. Seems like a fairly mimimalist operation.

[@WonkoTheSaneUK]

The smaller 51kWh battery in the UK base model is LFP

[@burnseboy]

Hi Viking, I expect you will only be happy with an LFP battery chemistry so make that a mandatory factor in your decision. I also think the LFP standard range RWD model Y is a perfect match for you and the channel. You are getting the technology, premium chassis, best infotainment, OTA updates, FSD capabilities, etc. I am not against the bargain Chinese alternatives, but, I think you should experience the best value in the Tesla range (Model Y LFP) first as the benchmark to rate others against.

[@teohck7630]

Unfair to compare tesla y with atto 3. Fair comparison will be with byd han, Xpeng p5, nio et5 and the likes...

[@jimchu9681]

Sam, I would go for the MG4! Other reports did vote it to be a better EV & the cheapest EV as far. I'll go & investigate my local MG showroom the next few days. One drawback is it is a rear wheel drive car. Front wheel drive is better for our winter here in UK.

[@shreekrishnashrestha5684]

How is Front Wheel Drive better in winter? I thought RWD was better in every aspect.

[@paulday8676]

In the UK the 51kwh battery with a WLTP of 218 miles is LFP, while the 64kwh one (WLTP 270 or 281 miles dependent on trim spec) is NMC. So if this same battery choice came to Australia, which one would you choose?

[@MiguelAngel-xl5xd]

The MG4 maybe is the best value for money but it's like ID3 size while the MY is much bigger car. Service Center and aftersales are also very important so I'd put all these things on the balance to take my decision.

[@bertiloleandersson927]

Hi ,thanks for your interesting videos. Dont cancel your Atto3 . I have driven both and the BYD has a good functional auto and cruse pilot... MG had not... MG,s so called pilot are dangerous. att least in our winter climate in Sweden. And the seats are much better in the Atto 3 ... Dont forgett the blade battery that charge quicker. Thats my thouts about those cars.

[@gregandkaruna6674]

Lol this Viking nut flip flops all the time! In a past video he said the MG4 was ugly and did not think much of it, now he is considering one lol

[@HaayNL]

I am quite interested in the MG4 and am waiting for when it becomes officially available here in The Netherlands. Supposedly it will be launched here in Q4 2022.

[@ianchilds7274]

Already drive an MGzev, it's great. Cancelled my Atto purchase early in the year. Buying an MG4 next year a well. Getting the long range version.

[@johnjkiwi7818]

Kia Ora Sam. I been watching videos reviews of the MG4 from some of the UK's notoriously hard to please car critics. The consensus from these reviews is that the MG4 is a good car and is great value for its price. It has a seven year warranty and is not distributed by EV Direct and Luke Todd. The only drawback I can see, is that the MG4 won't be available for purchase in Australia and New Zealand until 2023.

[@sujanadhikari8396]

Hi, I was thinking on buying MG4, the battery life warranty of 7 years attracted me the most. However, i am using it as a rideshare and i just realised the warranty is not for commercial use. My question is do we need to replace battery within 3 years of purchase as we will be riding around 1000km a month? Is it really worth it for ride share just nervous as they mentioned warranty as a plus point but they have mentioned non commercial use. Thank you.

[@systemuser8701]

I had an MGB that I dearly loved. If you give the internals and running gear your okay, I will seriously consider the 4 !!!

[@hindesite]

Look, the MGB might have been great, but how is that at all relevant to this discussion?

[@systemuser8701]

@@hindesite *You* look Killjoy. I was having a perfectly peaceable nostalgic moment...until you crapped in the middle of it !!!

[@deansh8506]

The 51kWh battery in the MG is LFP

[@talkandplay]

Just noticed there does not appear to be any rear fog lights on the MG4..not listed in any specs but must be as legal requirement to have rear fog lights in UK.

[@Madonsteamrailways]

Nice pair of vehicles!! I’ve been driving electric for coming up to three years in a Renault Zoe!!

[@williamholleman8673]

I am going to sign up for their email list in US. Thanks

[@costiqueR]

MG made a good impression in Europe, this is for sure. Agree on the interior, personally, I do not like the ATTO 3 interior. This one is more classical and likable. The special design of ATTO3 is like art, man can like it or not (remember Nissan Juke)...

[@leonardoreina1655]

I wish we had mg here in the states! I have been looking at them and really like the sportiness of this model. To be honest the byd looks like a boring soccer mom people mover. Also looks too much like the Volkswagen. Sounds to me like MG is really trying to stand out and they're doing a good job at it. It would be a no-brainer for me to have the MG over the BYD. The MG has more good reputation peace of mind and much more exciting

[@MrTipperX]

Prixes in Ireland. The Excite Standard Range price is €27,495; the Excite Long Range price is €30,995 and the Exclusive Long Range price is €34,495

[@chrisborns5972]

I would buy the Y for the tech and future ability to license FSD. That said I would go MG over atto 3 if FSD was not a priority.

[@morganangel340]

FSD is pipe dream... you can wait for that on your next car... like 5 years or more from now. Also the 40k model Y is bullshit in EU, beacuse all the taxes... For example, in the Netherlands, it starts at €50,000 - €16,000 less than the Long Range version: Performance is 70k.

[@elmohead]

FSD is faaaarrrr away. Best self driving cars are those robotaxis in china. They have level 4-5 self-driving, and that's achieved by a combination of city-wide CCTV use, 5G and all the sensors mounted all over the cars... And it's still geofenced.

[@bryanstrom812]

Stick with something with an LFP battery, for all the reasons you have been explaining for quite some time: Very long life, safety, full charge & discharge is O.K., still useful for storage after it's done being used in the EV. Or something with the BMLMP chemistry by Magnis if that becomes available. But right now, I'm voting for something with LFP.

[@gregandkaruna6674]

LFP still age and lose capacity with age, if the Blade battery is so much better why in both Australia and NZ it still comes with the industry standard 8 year warranty 150,000km and no more than 30% battery degradation! The 51kwh MG4 does have the LFP battery, while for low density the 64kwh cannot fit the LFP. The Nissan Leaf do not use LFP and have had a better battery safety record than even the LFP blade battery! MG claim the new battery they are using in both the 51kwh and 64kwh are extremely safe

[@JonathanPriceUK]

@Bryan Strom In the UK market the standard range MG4 has an LFP battery. Long range is said to have Lithium Ion battery. According to MG Chorley Miles Roberts.

[@FalkinerTim]

Another reason for LFP is that townhouses are now being built which store the car under the living areas. One does not want to live above a petrol or diesel vehicle because of the fumes and fire risk. LFP is the best car for ground-floor storage as it avoids fumes and fire risk.

[@michaelstarkey9745]

Or lm3p

[@paulharvey439]

MG4 the ID3 destroyer.

[@dalekloss4682]

Sam , what is the battery cooling setup? Affects battery life! Air cooling of battery is usually no good.

[@rogerwilson6367]

Ordered a MG4 yesterday after test driving it. Great car.

[@13031983]

MG4 win at RWD, BYD win at LFP battery. May just wait for the MG4 battery if any chance you could have the LFP ones (if they do).

[@stevencullen6261]

With all the features in ev's I'm surprised they haven't put in electronic window tinting

[@giuliopedrali4794]

I prefer the MG in the exterior design: dynamic and sporty sedan, the BYD in spectacular interior design: original and cool like a Citroen of the Seventies.

[@suvitchaiwongkirachalearn5582]

Agree

[@CATinBOOTS81]

The MG4 Performance Version, with 2 motors of 150Kw each, will have 300Kw total power and 0-100Km/h acceleration in about 3,8s. It will use the 64 Kwh NMC battery pack.

[@rickypeacock659]

Petition BYD direct to get the Australian dealership to "wise up".

[@terrymackenzie6784]

I've had the MG ZS EV on order for a while now and the dealer keeps moving out the delivery date so when they told me they could supply a MG4 I bit their hand off, they only had the standard range where my original order was for a long rang top spec but, with the supply side problems all over the world the clear "winner" is the one that is "available". On my reckoning at the price this car is when the long rang top speck cars are available you will easily be able to trade you existing car in with minimal lose of value. I may even keep my existing order for the MG ZS EV on as it will turn up one day.

[@andrew7455]

I like Atto3 way more.

[@bryanduncan6178]

Rain? We could do with some! We've had this strange bright thing in the sky (no idea what it is?!). Like many, I've got an MG4 on order and should get it in 3 weeks - boat has just docked in Southampton. The AWD model will be silly quick - 0-60mph in 3.8 seconds.... Don't forget the Extended range model that arrives March next year with 77kWh capacity and circa 325 miles WLTP.

[@t3hpwninat0r]

2022 is the year of sweaty Brits. It's horrible 🥵

[@WonkoTheSaneUK]

Same

[@briankinder400]

The MG looks really good. Appears to be great value. However I don’t think it has a quick swap station battery like Nio Sam. Perhaps I’ve misunderstood but my take is these MG’s have a standard dimension battery that can be unbolted so it is “replaceable”. In other words it is possible to replace it because it’s not stupidly glued in in a way that makes the car a throwaway if the battery fails.

[@crhu319]

Glue is dissolvable with solvents. No EV is designed to die with the battery.

[@brucekennedy5274]

You’re correct. The battery isn’t “hot swappable” - like a Nio - the platform is able to accommodate diff battery types/sizes, but a swap or replacement would be a serious dealer service job. Not even sure why you would - the battery should last the lifetime of the car.

[@vladimirproksch2894]

If the Y was the same price I'd get it because it's the benchmark car. But the Atto 3 and MG 4 are thousands cheaper so you have to really consider them. As you are the expert I'll be interested which one you will choose.

[@nsw3000]

I wouldn't be interested in the standard MG4.. but the 3sec Hot Hatch version sounds like a definite new sales champ. "Powered by dual electric motors in the front and rear offering a combined 330kW of power and 600Nm of torque, the high-performance model is said to reach 100km/h in a rapid 3.8 seconds."

[@KineticEV]

I think the Tesla Model Y is going to be more bang for the buck. It's overall interior space is much larger than either of these cheaper EVs. As far as breaking, you get the regen breaking and now with the new update your vehicle will break even when regen breaking is not available. Again, not only would you currently have access to the Tesla charging network but you can use the other networks as well. I think for what you would use it for with your boys and bikes I think it's a better deal even if it's a little more expensive. Now, if you were considering buying 2 EVs for the family then getting two of these almost for the price of 1 Tesla might be a good deal...I think that what you will find if you keep weighing the pros and cons is the Tesla is going to edge out the MG. Price is a factor but there' truth the saying..."You get exactly what you pay for"...and if you pay a little sometimes you only get a little bit.

[@cyphernada6839]

In term of service fee for BYD Atto 3, can I say it is the Australians are ripping the Australian buyers off? Cause I dont see any BYD service terms like this in Australia anywhere, ANYWHERE.

[@user-cf6go9om6p]

the 51kWH battery is LFP and the 64kWH pack is NMC

[@MUFC1933]

2:40 I’m I England and it’s raining today with a weather warning for wind sun and Mon 😅

[@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270]

I believe the MG4 is already in the showrooms in the UK....there are several reviews of it on UK channels

[@WonkoTheSaneUK]

Reviewers have played with MG's press fleet, but showrooms won't get theirs for another week or two.

[@brucekennedy5274]

Test drove one today in Uk (top trophy spec). It’s excellent!

[@chrisb90]

We have just pre ordered an MG4 in Perth and already have a GWM Ora on pre-order. We are waiting to test drive the Ora and will cancel if it’s not up to spec etc. The MG4 looks a better car on paper but we are waiting to find out the price. Should be interesting both look good cars at a price. We have looked at BYD and canceled our order - but unless they change their attitude (distributer) in Australia we won’t be looking again.

[@chrisallen1320]

LFP battery for the base model in the uk.

[@roborobo02]

The BYD Atto3 surely would be the one even though it is front wheel drive and motor. The LFP battery and better regen is good on the Atto. The MG has got it right with the rear motor and battery removal and wrong with the battery type.

[@ericng9813]

In the 2022 July sales figure of mg6 and yuan plus (atto 3) in China, mg6 is 1765, atto 3 is 19719. Atto3 sell more than ten times of Mg 6 in China.

[@jackiehowells3432]

Hi Sam we in uk have just had price for atto 37000 euros or 34000 pounds the mg Mulan is 26000 pounds big difference in price but the big shock is byd han at 73000 euros or 109000 Australia

[@xiaoyang9758]

as i know saic battery supplier should be CATL and guoxuan hi-tec, there are Ternary lithium battery, and use tec called "short Blade battery" compare with BYD blade battery

[@tran100hq]

EVdatabase UK indicate that the MG4 LR/Trophy had a 64kwh gross battery, with 61.7kwh usable. In contrast, the SE SR has a 51kwh gross with 50.8kwh usable. I take this to mean that their SE SR model uses LFP, whilst the LR/Trophy uses ternary battery hence the large buffer. Not sure whether anyone else can confirm our had better information?

[@stevesinclair1791]

Yes your correct - that’s the info that I have - Battery packs from CATL .

[@Macmonkey1000]

@@stevesinclair1791 And if you stick to using 80% of the larger battery in the hope of preserving its SOH, you end up with pretty much the same useable capacity. LFP for the win I think.

[@marcwatson455]

Tried posting Consumer Law rights on BYD Owners Facebook pages the other day. Both discussion and many replies / comments were erased overnight.

[@deankirk8554]

Dark and rainy Melbourne ⛈️ how are the solar panels working bro?

[@MimMusMet]

Europe prices released MG4 base model ~€29k, Atto3 ~€38k. Even MG4 long range SE model (~€33k) is %15 cheaper than Atto3.

[@narvuntien]

The MG M4 is the car for me, unless the ORA Cat does something impressive soon.

[@brendankenny1332]

What's the warranty (Oz) and are they pulling the BYD dealer con of charging for not needed service ?????