MGB 81, the Spitfire of the Seas | World War II gunboat test drive review | Motor Boat & Yachting

[@giuseppe4909]

Unfortunate that we don’t get to listen to the song of three Packards, but the diesel conversion is an intelligent choice. Beauty of a boat !

[@gordonwallin2368]

I'd think, it was built in England, they would've been Rolls Royce built Merlins, not licenced Packards.

[@RayleighCriterion]

​@@gordonwallin2368Merlin engines were reserved for aircraft, the Packards were more plentiful and used in everything else, but I think it was a different Packard engine, not the one that was the licensed Merlin copy.

[@Gloomendoom]

I believe they were Packard 4M2500 engines, not Merlin/Meteors.

[@bazwabat1]

@@Gloomendoom yes they were marine engines not aircraft engines modified for boats. I think about 4000hp which is wa more powerful than the Packard Merlin at 1200hp.

[@thos.bennett567]

A trim boat, made for hit and run tactics. Bless all those who served on these boats.

[@murraymaclean3048]

My dad served for three years on MTBs it had three RR griffins and carried four fish out of Malta the fuel tank sat in the engine room between the v shaped engine set up . Dad said “the bullets when in one side and out the other “ and you hoped they never hit the fuel tank or you . He had a list of medals, far to many to ware many came with bar . He was my hero and will always be the superman he never wanted .

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

Murray Your dad was wrong !!! Griffins were NOT used in MTB, I bet they were the Packard M2500,as the Brits received many thousands of those engines, and only 8,000 griffins engines ever made and used in aircraft !!!

[@andrewwmacfadyen6958]

My uncle was with the Costal Forces Depot ship in Malta and later Bari. The engines in the early boats were actually RR Merlins which were ill suited to the corrosive marine environment, the later boats had Packard V12 engines note not Packard Merlins. The Packards were more suited to the salty conditions. The tale of what happened to HMS Vienna and her MTBs and MGBs at Bari in December 1943 is worth looking up.

[@chrishamilton2527]

I understood that the aft gunnery were a pair of 20mm Oerlikon cannons as opposed to machine guns.

[@foenikxsfirebird3067]

Don't worry - DIESEL is never a problem. - In 1972 I saw a pretty yacht going into the air on a 'marina' in italy - 15 mtr close to me. - The start of the motors ignited th patrol gases in the engineroom . Probably the ventilationsystem failed or the captain forgot - anyway - one spark was enough to lift the deck from the hull - 15 cm high, the captain's wife was hit by a cover of the roof , which was lifted by the explosion.A wonderful mahagoni- boat, 10 mtrs long . The ship was pushed off the ' marina' to burn down on a sandbank 200mtrs further away, out of the harbour. - The shock was great....

[@ianmilne655]

​​@@wilburfinnigan2142 SeaGriffons were used in a class of patrol boats, one remains outside the RAF museum Hendon. They were derated to 1100hp with a 1450hp short term boost rating.

[@douglassleigh2026]

My Grandfather served on this actual boat, nice to see it preserved. The talk is Very inaccurate though. It did not drop a depth charge in front of a battle ship they DID sleep aboard. It would do 42knots with the original engines and they got shot up a couple of times. Including sadly one loss on the fore deck

[@frankietaylor5905]

Thank you sir. Thats awesome. ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉

[@usernamesreprise4068]

It annoys me when people like this make what they like to call "documentaries" with only the scantiest of research on the subject matter, one for instance being the repeated calling of an Oerlikon explosive 30 mm machine CANNON a machine "gun" almost describing it as though it was an ineffectual after thought, in actual fact it was the most usefull and capable weapon on deck being almost the same caliber of the fore deck mounted 3 pounder QF but with a massively superior rate of fire AND could be used equally as a ship to ship attack weapon AND a very effective high angle anti aircraft weapon to boot, something the 3 pounder could only have dreamed of, the 303 calibre Lewis guns were mainly anti personel/ anti boarding strafing weapons which could go high angle too but with nowhere near the range or hitting power of the explosive rounds of the Oerlikons.

[@haveaday1812]

I’ll take things that never happened for 20 Alex.

[@johnmoriarty6158]

42 knots is flying!

[@billynomates920]

@@johnmoriarty6158 had to be. those e boats were big and fast!

[@philipmason3218]

Fantastic restoration of a wonderful piece of British history. The men serving on these boats were, rightfully, held in very high regard.

[@ull893]

Yes, but the high money were kept by politicians. These people only got high regard.

[@MrMenefrego1]

@@ull893 Welcome to reality.

[@Betrue875]

Very similar to our PT-Boat. These are fantastic relics of iconic seamanship and boat-building. Thank you so much for putting together this video!

[@scienceistruth1924]

I think they were the PT boats! if I remember correctly Scott-Payne of British Power Boats ltd who built this design as an MTB in Southampton UK, but lost the contract to Vickers, ( through some jiggery -pokery in Parliament iirc) so took the design to the US and they were built as PT boats.

[@Betrue875]

@@scienceistruth1924 That's a very interesting story. The US Navy built these PT boats for use in the Pacific Theatre. From the history archives, these weren't very popular amongst the upper echelon, but earned their reputation as the war intensified. Ostensibly, the most iconic PT boat was PT-109.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

My brother's Italian uncle-in-law served on the Italian MTBs out of Taranto. I have nothing but admiration for the men who served on these things on both sides of the war. All that ammunition sitting on top of high octane petrol tanks which would never be properly sealed. Petrol (gasoline) fumes were everywhere.

[@lindabromage6985]

my father served on the MGBs out of Italy during the war

[@MrMenefrego1]

@@lindabromage6985 Was he in the Fascist/Royal Italian Navy? My Italian grandfather served in the Blackshirts, and I still have many of his decorations and other military honors. Have you retained anything from his service, and what theater did he serve in? (It's okay if you don't answer, I just find this all very fascinating!)

[@toboldygo5823]

The Italians were the first ones to have aluminum PT boats that were the fastest and cutting edge boats in World War II not to mention the midget submarines that the Italians invented and their docking station was a sunk ship in the Mediterranean. It was something a 007. God bless the Italians that fought in World War II.❤

[@williamthompson7162]

I was privileged to command the U.S. Navy "Nasty" PTF - powered by twin 3100 HP Napier Deltic engines. Those were originally Norwegian built and later versions were by John Trumpy in Annapolis, MD. The total responsiveness and awesome performance of such boats is an experience like no other. Your report exuded that. Thanks.

[@danhillman4523]

@Doge Maverick All the Napiers, most anyway, were crazy machines and it's no small wonder they even were able to work at all.

[@Carbide195]

Napier were engine wizards through and through

[@petermallia558]

Awesome. 😎 👍

[@jacktheaviator4938]

I worked on a tugboat powered by napier engines when I was 19. Was always amazed at the power output/size ratio. The main powerplant was smaller than the genset. It's a great design for industrial applications, makes the powerplant incredibly dense. The only tugboat engine room I've ever been in that actually had room to walk around the engine.

[@MrMenefrego1]

Not too surprising they would have a magnificent little ship like this; The Brits have always been the masters of the sea. It's remarkable to me that she has a 47-mm main gun; what a kick it must have!

[@coldblower1]

My uncle served on these and MTB'S throughout ww2. Great boats , greater men.

[@lindabromage6985]

my father did too- in the Med

[@polygamous1]

What a Great sound its 3 Lions roaring But under your control amazing

[@GrahamBroad-e3x]

My old Dad would have loved to have seen that.Passed away 15 years ago proudly served on MTB's and MGB's Coastal Forces operating out of Yarmouth WWIi.

[@josephwarra5043]

Absolutely beautiful! A fitting tribute to the brave men who risked everything so that we might live free. Glory and fame to the HEROES of that terrible war, the Knights of the Sea, sail again in our hearts and in our minds, RIP.

[@jamesstovell7617]

So that we might live free.

[@GrahamHumphreys-e4l]

We could use that out in the channel at the moment,plus a nice quad Browning...

[@kfeltenberger]

My dad commanded a US PT boat in the South Pacific during WW2 and I grew up with stories about how much he loved his boat and some of the exploits. One thing that has stuck in my mind is that by the last year or so of the war, he said they removed two of the four torpedoes because they just didn't have a use for them based on their target mix; predominately coastal landing craft and other small craft. They are amazing creations.

[@alganhar1]

What this guy failed to mention is mid to late war the British consolidated their MGB and MTB designs into a single hull, with only the weapon loadout differing between the gun and torpedo variants. Given that the weapons were all mounted on deck rather than through deck like on larger ships they could easily be switched out, so an MTB could become an MTB simply by removing the depth charges and adding the torpedo tubes, which could be done in a matter of hours. British MTB/MGB's were smaller than the German and US equivalents. Still packed a punch though, boat crews tended to add extra weaponry they scrounged, so it was actually kind of rare to see one with the official armament. At least in war time service. So despite their smaller size the gun versions were often actually better armed than their larger German opponents. They were not really used on some of the longer patrols the US boats were, hence their smaller size. These things were very much optimised for coastal work and short range hit and run attacks. Still they saw a LOT of action. The MGB's and MTB's were involved in almost constant skirmishes with German coastal units both offensive and defensive. Its criminal that the actions of these little boats are so little known in the UK.

[@stuartbennett7614]

The most beautiful boat ever

[@mahulad7298]

How fantastic they have kept this piece of history alive, the restoration work volunteers carry out on these old war craft is brilliant, if putting something not original into them to get them going is required then I say fantastic well done to all those involved. Big ups to the presenter & his team for getting it to air, who cares if he wasn't a detailed expert? 99% of viewers would not have a clue what the use and workings of this craft were anyhow? to them it is yet another beautiful piece of history on display for all to marvel and enjoy.

[@sbkenn1]

My dad worked for Vospers as a Naval Architect and shipright. He lived on an MTB for a while after the war.

[@davidpeters6536]

2, 3 or more of these should be in the channel...

[@AS-zk6hz]

She has a beautifully designed bow. A beautiful boat

[@ehall9149]

I’ve been onboard this boat and it’s beautiful in its own way, the craftsmanship and simplicity is amazing when compared to modern boats. Surprisingly spacious inside too.

[@worre1996]

Me as well when it was at the Pegasus bridge on the 5th of June 2019 ;-)

[@KrillLiberator]

Love how his voice cracks when he says "motor *gun* boat", like a ten-year old. Mine would too, I think. What an absolute beauty she is and we are so lucky so many of these coastal warriors have survived to this century!

[@ohgosh5892]

That's just his voice, Andrew.

[@joepaz8102]

Absolutely the most beautiful war time boat/ship built. Godspeed to all the brave mariners who served on board vessles defending our freedom; the men and women who used their nation's resources to design and build these vessels. Kudos the the restorers!

[@lampbagengland5538]

Such bravery shown by so many ordinary seamen, achieving such extraordinary feats of seamanship,against all the odds. May they all rest in peace.

[@ohgosh5892]

That's what happens when the fascists take control and start screaming about patriotism and borders and control of waters, and all that other crap. We're heading for it again, and the idiots who will have to be brave, or die, are voting for it.

[@septembersurprise5178]

@@ohgosh5892 "You have described a callow fool, a self-sufficient ass, a mere human tumble-bug, stern in air, heaving at his bit of dung & imagining he is re-modeling the world & is entirely capable of doing it right. Ignorance, intolerance, egotism, self-assertion, opaque perception, dense & pitiful chuckle-headedness -- & an almost pathetic unconsciousness of it all. That is what I was at 19 - 20; & that is what the average Southerner is at 60 to-day. Northerners, too, of a certain grade. It is of children like this that voters are made. And such is the primal source of our government! A man hardly knows whether to swear or cry over it." Mark Twain.

[@ohgosh5892]

@@septembersurprise5178 Johnson is now desperate for war in Ukraine, so that the flag waving nutters can get all misty-eyed and damp gusseted as 'our boys' are send out to die, young, and childless, to keep Johnson in power.

[@robertwillis4061]

During WW2 my Grandfather was an engineer for Gun boats, Torpedo boats and Air sea Rescue. He was based in Irvine in Scotland.

[@blondbowler8776]

High school in the mid-60s our Sea Scout troop had a 63' AVR refitted for Scout use with 20 berths. One heckuva boat. I want to say it had twin Allison V12 diesels, but I'm not really sure. I was usually in the crow's nest.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

@@blondbowler8776 After WW2, the British boats went to Deltic two stroke diesels. 18 cylinders, three crankshafts and 36 pistons set in a triangular format. Each one produced 2,500 hp (1,900 kW) at 2000 rpm for a 15-minute rating; the continuous rating was 1,875 hp (1,398 kW) at 1700 rpm. There is a boat operating out of Torquay that still runs these engines though I doubt they ever get to full chat.

[@donaldpaterson5827]

That’s typical, your Grandfather was based at Irvine and my pals Dad also a MGB engineer from 10 miles down the road at Saltcoats was based on the south coast.

[@jamesbyrne3284]

Interesting I have family in irvine it's about 40mins drive away from my flat, now thst u mention it I can imagine ww2 boats docked in irvine 👍

[@davidandrachelowens4444]

Not sure if they're still there but there were a pair of MTB's on the dry in Troon harbour. Talking over 27 years ago when I was last there but you never know.

[@PeterMolyneux-l2y]

The Oerlikon guns are cannon, not machine guns if I'm not mistaken. They fired an explosive shell rather than a solid round. I doubt that such a boat would attack a battleship. For one thing, the Germans didn't have many. One was sunk, Bismarck, and Tirpitz spent the war holed up in Norway until the RAF sank her.

[@psychalogy]

That was a properly ordinary review of what should have been a fascinating topic.

[@MarsFKA]

In my early teenage years, I read "Three Corvettes" by Nicholas Monsarrat. In it, he told how, one night in port, he was officer of the watch on his ship and saw some Motor Torpedo Boats going out on an operation. He used the Aldis lamp to flash "Good luck" to them and one replied, "Actually we rely on skill".

[@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710]

" Cool. "

[@boogiewoogiepapa4784]

@dwiggins01 Just the way we need them.

[@Mrdoctile]

I would wish you the best of luck, but I believe luck is a concept invented by the weak to explain their failures.

[@MarsFKA]

@@Mrdoctile Heheh. By the time Monsarrat finished flashing all that to the MTBs they would have been out of sight.

[@jugaloking69dope58]

im pretty sure they were really quick with the light messages being on radio silence and had to know where each other are!!!

[@garymahony2844]

Absolutely brilliant.... Well done to all concerned that helped keep this beautiful historic time piece going... 👏👏👏👏

[@marknelson5929]

I would heartily recommend 'The Battle of the Narrow Seas' by LT. CDR. Peter Scott, first published in 1945. It's a brilliant account of M.G.B.s, M.T.B.s and M.L.s in action, with some fascinating artworks of them in action done by Peter Scott, who post-war became a famous naturalist and wildlife artist.

[@rossmansell5877]

Scott managed to run his boat and a coule of other following him onto the Goddwin Sands. He left his steel enamelled mug near the compass and got the navigation wrong......(So its said 🤣)

[@rockybass9764]

That. Is a cool piece of history there. Thank you and well done to all who saved her and maintains her.

[@nicholasseidel9533]

I actually started weeping about 10 seconds into this when I realized what it was. Been following the rebuild at Berthon. If anyone is interested I highly recommend Adrian Rance's Fast Boats and Flying Boats. It's the story of Hubert Scott-Paine and the British Power Boat Company. Just a fascinating story.

[@dondidykes5306]

I'm really glad to start seeing the PT boats being found and restored

[@Chr.U.Cas1622]

👍👌👏 What a simply fantastic boat! I'm not a war/gun admirer, but I absolutely admire a beautiful shaped boat. But imagine having even 4500hp instead of "only" 2550hp. Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing. Best regards luck and health.

[@ChrisNewton-y9d]

Beautiful boat made for war not comfort what sight and sound they must have been and the brave sailor's serving on them ❤ god bless them.

[@wthornton7346]

I'm just reading my late headmaster's book ('Gunboat 658' by L. C. Reynolds. New English Library 1974 - F.P. 1955) of memoirs from his time as navigator and skipper of MGB 658 in the Mediterranean. Truly eye opening stuff. Great to see a seaworthy example of the boat. In the book it feels so much bigger!

[@lindabromage6985]

my father served with him, and the Canadian 'three muskateers'

[@martentrudeau6948]

Beautiful boat, three diesels sound great, looks fantastic cutting through the water at speed.

[@Slaktrax]

Very good video, it's quite spacious inside. thank you. A 20 mm Oerlikon is an auto-cannon, not a machine gun!

[@nortrap]

I served on a MTB Storm class, in the 80s, we lived on borad for a year and to be honest it was not that much more room :)

[@Ps119]

Presenter is mistaken about the main gun when he said it was a 3 pounder with an effective range of around 200 yards. The standard main gun on these boats were 2 pounders with an effective range of almost 4,000 yards (2 miles). An infantry man's rifle at that time typically had a range greater than 200 yards and this gun a much much bigger than that.

[@georgeclark9903]

Wow!! Ive never seen this before!! My Grandfather Built these's during World war 2, Im so Proud Of His Contribution! His Names Is John Morris Clark, wheel right, Cooper, Furniture maker,& now boat builder , he Always spoke about these's Merlin's and the sounds, sitting on a thin skin of 1/2 an in of ply!, got to appreciate the build these guys did !!! Thanks Grand Dad

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

George Clark your Grandfathers memory was distorted as those boats never used Merlins they Were Packard M2500's and the hulls were not "plywood" but a double planking of 1 " mahogany planks. Plenty of video on You Tube of these boats being restored !!

[@rommeboerkoel3017]

Theres also one of these rusting away in the harbour here, nice to see one in a good state

[@tonyneve2410]

This is the type of vessel we will need for fishery protection, cheap and quick to make and outstandingly fast.

[@geoffburrill9850]

Could take on the Iranian navy if we had a fleet of these.

[@black5f]

Many years ago ... my engineering teacher at school used to let me stay late as a young teen and use the kit outside hours. A proper engineering dept circa 76 or so. One evening he revealed his old job .... looking after 2 x Napier Deltics on an MTB. I was so impressed. He was already a hero character in my mind. He asked me if I knew how they worked so I told him, he was quite impressed. I'm an amateur engineer in my spare time and he taught me everything I know.

[@markdavis2475]

Small correction, the refit didn't replace the Packards, they went decades ago! During her restoration over 10 years ago, she was fitted with MAN diesels.

[@jrbaeronz9840]

Thought so, Phil Clabburns old resto.

[@markdavis2475]

JRB Aero NZ Certainly was! I met one of the guys who did the work, he negotiated a deal with MAN to get the engines for a VERY good price!

[@Desertduleler_88]

Fitted with German engines how ironic.......

[@markdavis2475]

MrStoneycool69 I think Rolls Royce own MTU now, so maybe that’s some balance, if needed!

[@Desertduleler_88]

Mark Davis BMW owns Rolls Royce.......

[@richardw64]

What a beautiful boat. If I had the money, I would have 2 of them. Well done to everyone involved and thank you for this presentation.

[@サンコサム]

Can't believe they didn't restore those packard 12s, what a shame

[@Serveck]

They were long gone by the time this owner got their hands on it. Those cat diesels are reliable, economical and make plenty of torque

[@colinjohnston8519]

@@Serveck that's not the point. It's a vintage boat, it doesn't matter how good the engine is, it's not original.

[@Serveck]

@@colinjohnston8519 they dont exist anymore, what do you suggest they do?

[@colinjohnston8519]

@@Serveck lol they don't exist anymore? All 14k made during the war have all disappeared??? Sure they have.

[@adrianlarkins7259]

@@Serveck I bit of research and I reckon one would fine 3 Merlin engines which could be marine converted. I agree with Colin Johnston. Without those famous, fabulous engines the boat is a "fraud".

[@CheersWarren]

Liberty Aviation museum in Clinton Ohio are completing a rebuild of the 72'. PT 728 that was a WW11 built Vosper design ( US built in Annapolis Md). After sea trials they are completing additional work required to be US coast guard certified. The are running twin MANN turbo Diesel engines , with the saving in weight from the lighter engines , a lot less fuel, and 4 replica Torpedos ( I build) that don't weigh 2200# each the performance of the will be as good or better than with the original Packard engines.On the first sea trial they ran 48 mph in fresh water on Lake Erie! This is going to be a special boat to take a ride on! Cheers Warren

[@chriskelleher349]

Commendable effort to get this boat up and running. It will look great in naval parades.

[@grahamgreen8106]

How interesting, I'm not a boat person but my father-in-law served o/board boats such as this in WW2. I remember him describing the cold start procedure on those Packard engines. Quite exciting and that was just the start of the voyage 😊

[@markchip1]

I always found these, and their sister craft, the MTBs to be the most beautiful vessels of all time! What I would give to own one! Certainly, I'd need to refit her substantially as a civilian craft but to share the sight and experience of her blasting across the waters is unsurpassed!

[@neilstern1694]

Beautiful work

[@kerrypitt9789]

I love all watercraft, but this deadly boat was also very beautifully designed! Wow what a beast!!!

[@timogaleon1630]

As you say, magnificent! A great tribute to the sailors of the day. So very grateful that this superb restoration has been carried out and I very much look forward to seeing her out and about in the Solent. Well done and thank you, to everyone concerned!

[@Pincer88]

What a marvellous job on the restauration of this magnificent boat! Too bad the original engines could not be restored, but imho that is compensated for by the sound of the turbo diesels and the increased safty that comes along with that. Can't wait to see it perform as the backdrop for a WWII epic film about the young men that went to war in boats like this and th MTBs.

[@dmar813]

I understand it was more feasible update the engines, but the sound these boats made with the original power plants is what makes the boat.

[@BennyTheWoo]

What a gun, boat. Wonderful stuff, thank you to the men who served.

[@richardmiller8028]

I was working on a ship that was birthed at Swan Island ship yard in Portland Oregon when I heard something start up near by, good god I thought what is that? sounds like an offshore power boat, so went to the rail to have a look only to see PT 625 go by with her X 3 beautiful sounding V 12 Packards on half chat, made my day, 😁 stunning boat. And yes I’m afraid to say this boat should of had them in too☹️

[@dougieroberts7045]

Hard to offer an argument, that is something of beauty.

[@brianconnelly2906]

Outstanding job on this piece of real history 👏 👌 👍

[@jamesedmister9922]

Beautiful boat and brave men that worked her!

[@JamesYoung61]

My farther served in MTBs from 39 to 45 and ended up Lt Cdr RNVR with a squadron of them at 27, I have one of his his photo albums from that time and combined with his stories it has left a deep impression on me that I can revisit and pass on.

[@lindabromage6985]

my father was on MGBs in the Med in WW2

[@jbss7382]

+MotorBoat&Yachting, Hello guys? Awesome video. As you have reviewed Scandinavian boats in the past, I hope you can take a trip Sweden? They have The Veterans Flotilla at Ystad. They have one MTB with Italian engines(diesel) and they are twin 5,000hp each!!! yes 5,000 horse power EACH!!! It is capable of 50knots +!!!! It would be great if you could review it as a comparison. We must keep the history of the last 70 years alive. Many Thanks Jonathan Seth-Smith

[@henrikl1394]

Yes Test T26, T56 and The T121 Spica with Turbine drive...

[@spacecoasttactical]

Veterans of what? Sweden was neutral in WW2

[@SergeyPRKL]

Those aren't this pretty. swedish MTB are more practical and not designed to be pretty, as all brittish stuff is before 1960's.

[@jbuckley2546]

@@spacecoasttactical Of a damn hot sauna......

[@blowingfree6928]

@@SergeyPRKL British MTBs/MGBs were not designed to be pretty, they were designed to be easily and cheaply made by any small boatyard. They were designed to be expendable. Most were Vosper or Fairmile designs, and Dog-Boats were definitely not pretty. If they were pretty in was accidental and in the eyes of the beholder. British boats were very practical, they had to be as they were out fighting in all sorts of conditions and places. Swedish boats were not used for fighting so they were probably less practical as a fighting craft than British boats.

[@davidbeattie4294]

My Father trained on the Vickers and the Oerlikon during his service in the RCNVR. Part of his service was on the Fairmile motor launch for anti submarine patrol around St John's Newfoundland. Its worth preserving these vessels to honour the men who helped preserve our futures.

[@Ps119]

I served on a similar design launch but 72 feet long

[@morriganravenchild6613]

Lovely to see this restored and working. Thanks for the video.

[@keithriddle2867]

My Father was the Chief Engineer at the MTB motor torpedo base at Dover (Hell Fire Corner) for most of the War. He said the safest place to be was lying on the engine room deck plates between the Merlin engines when in action. Despite the fact that at times canon shells from the E boats went clean through the fuel tanks full of PETROL ! These were plugged to prevent fuel loss and range.

[@cageordie]

People who want to know how these things were used should read "The Battle of the Narrow Seas" by Sir Peter Scott. Funny what he was doing before he was famous for bird watching. Double diagonal mahogany and 100 octane fighter fuel. Brilliant combination. I am glad they have put decent engines in her, if I was rich I'd have donated them myself. My friend John MacDonald from the Back of Kepoch, Arisaig, Invernesshire was on minesweepers in the channel in WWII, he thinks he was 14 when he joined the RN when they called up his fishing boat. He wasn't seeking trouble the way these guys were, but he was out in the same sea at the same time. Reading the book gave me a different view of the quiet old lobster fisherman I knew.

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

cageordie and what was wrong with the original Packard M2500's ???? they got the job done and what were available at that time !!! decent diesel did NOT exist at that time, remember the Packard M2500's were a better engine of the same time period, late 1930 as the RR merlins !!! Just FYI !!!!

[@marvindebot3264]

Shame she had to be engine swapped but the care and feeding of three Packards is beyond most conservation societies. Now, mate, 20mm guns are not "machine guns", they are autocannon. Machine gun denotes something under 15mm. An "ammunition store" is a magazine. The max effective range of a 3-pounder autocanon (the bow gun) is 2000 to 3000 yards, not 200. No one tried attacking a "battleship" with an MGB, even attacking a destroyer is close to suicide. These were meant to deal with small, 500 to 1000-ton coasters and to keep E Boats in check.

[@jeffgriffiths9528]

That beautiful old girl needs to be pressed back into service we need her in the channel again and a lot more if them around the coast.

[@timmo491]

Those MTBs had some outstanding engagements in the Channel with the Krauts, little has been written about it but much more needs to be.

[@bruceferguson6637]

Beautiful restoration. I love how she planes at speed. Those diesels suit her. I suppose Packard spares are slim to nil.

[@algrayson8965]

Spares for anything can be had for sufficient $$.

[@Steve-Cross]

We could do with a couple of those patrolling the channel these days. Enough said. A wonderful restoration of an historic vessel. I think the brave men must’ve been a different breed back then. Thank you. 👍

[@davidmg1925]

Thanks or sharing MBY , I have been reading MBY for all my adult life..... the first one I bought was in 1977. I think the young guys who worked these boats were not so much brave but just had a different ethos. We all helped each other in those days. The current malais did not exist in those days (IMO of course). I pity about the metric gremlins creeping in but thanks you for not saying any thing was "iconic" or you were "gutted" about something.

[@looneyirish007]

Just a word the the "engine experts"!!, there was only 258 V12 parkard's built from the 1920's onwards. One engine would fetch around 20,000, if you can get one. Its a charity trust who runs this boat, not a Russian oligarch. but you're all welcome to donate to help fund it. i won't be holding my breath though.

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

loonyirish You are WRONG !!!! Packard built 14,000 of the M2500 PT boat engines, They also built other V12's for Cars and aircraft,and marine racing, and from 1941 0n they Built 55,525 Merlins, different engine

[@nosaltadded2530]

The boats were heavily armed not heavily armored like the presenter says. There is a difference between armament and armor.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

He never said they had armor. Just those deflectors for the gunners. Not much more protection than the helmets.

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

@@WALTERBROADDUS He said"its beautiful, its fast and its heavily armoured too". At 2.31.

[@derekheuring2984]

I noticed that too. Also, while the presenter showed his knowledge of boats, he stumbled his way through the description of the weapons. Obviously not one of his areas of expertise. Most notably, he called the Oerlikon 20mm machine cannons 'guns'.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

20mm cannon is a small beans in Navy terms. The (diesel powered) German E-Boat which could hit 48 knots carried 40mm Bofors and some even had the superb 88mm gun.

They aren't even that heavily armed. No torpedoes, which would be essential for sinking a ship of any size.

[@echohunter4199]

This is an amazing vessel and I know exactly how the crew felt when they made their attack runs, there was little to no shields to hide behind when the enemy shot at them. I fought in two wars as a US Army Infantryman and now I’m retired and fear is something we learn to compartmentalize for when we left the FOB or when a battle was about to begin. We all prepared our souls to meet the Lord and we’re thankful when we all made it through together.

[@legsofsteel1]

I saw a movie from the 1950s called "The Ship That Died Of Shame" was about one of these MGB used in smuggling after the war. As for the choice of 3 diesels. Was probable cheaper than restoring 2 pachard engine. At least its still afloat and functional.

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

Relief Those used THREE Packard V12's !!!1

[@coniow]

When these boats were 'struck off charge' they went into auction. You had no chance to inspect what you were bidding on, just a look from outside. One chap picked one up, and found that it had FULL tanks! £3,000 worth of avgas! One happy fella :-). Reality: NO museum is going to fit original spec engines in one of these, unless it is a static exibit. The cost of fuel is extreme, and they drink like Whales, not fishes. Fit new engines, run it once a week all summer, or run it once a year, and that is your fuel budget gone in one go.

[@stewartw.9151]

Heavily armoured? Nope, it may be heavily ARMED but it is not heavily armoured at all I suspect!

[@cageordie]

Right. No armor. Just quite thin wood and very large balls.

[@neilcowan535]

@@cageordie Not heavily armed either. Just FAST!

[@johnmothershead1690]

US sailors in similar PT boats tending the engines reported Japanese tracer rounds coming in one side of the boat and out the other. Easy to imagine the crews of MGBs having similar experiences.

[@Box500spooks]

MGB81 is kept at Boathouse 4 at Portsmouth Historic Dockyard. Well worth a visit, and there are also days when the historic boats go to sea - I've been on the RAF High Speed Launch, and days when you can go aboard to look around.

[@Kyleinasailing]

The fundamental difference between the German E boat and the British MTB was that the E boats were made of steel and powered by diesel engines. The British boats were wooden with very large petrol engines. Which crews had the better chances of survival?

[@philbox4566]

I would suggest the boats with the fastest speed had the better chance of survival. Not only that but the wooden boats would float. :)

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

Stephen.... WHO won the war ???? Answers that question !! !

[@stephen8200]

@@philbox4566 Some type of E boats could do 43 knots and look at their record of all the ships they sank and during a D day rehearsal exercise Tiger E boats came across from France and sank landing craft and ships killing 749 Americans and then all the E boats returned to base so one would think that the E boats preformed alot better than all the allied MTBs.

[@harryflower1810]

S boats were mahogany planking on aluminum frames with a round bilge hull not a planing hull like PT, MGB,MYB

[@robertsartin420]

Really great to see this piece of history brought back to life. Although disappointing that some folk have chose to criticize certain aspects of the restoration, should think their selves lucky be able to see these great machines running. It is a matter of money and economics in running it. Anyway great work..

[@demonmaestro]

I love the sound of those diesels throttling up!

[@24934637]

About 20 years ago .I saw something similar for sale at Conwy. Think it MAY have been a MTB but can't really remember. It was partially 'civilianised' didn't have torpedo tubes, or any guns / replica or deactivated, but it had recently had the engines fully professionally reconditioned, and the body looked to be in good condition. Seemed to be really good value at about £50K! Certainly big enough to live on!

[@Paul-ie1xp]

I''m willing to bet there was someone on board that would have explained to you that the Oerlikons are classed as cannons not machine guns, and to my untrained eye that looks like a spider web anti aircraft gun sight. I could be wrong but I would have checked before shooting the film.

[@donjones4719]

Yes, and did he say 3 pounder gun? That looked like a 2 pounder and the only text source I found for this type, this maker, says 2 pounder. Well, he's a boat guy, not a military historian, but he shouldn't put his assumptions in as simple statements. Knowing the British navy, it looked like plenty of room to sling hammocks for 14 men, or hot bunks for fewer.

[@markc6207]

I believe you are correct.

[@baker607102]

@@donjones4719 Its a Vickers 2pdr "pom-pom" that would equate to a 40mm like the Bofors

[@DrScalpel29]

What a lovely fast boat! Thanks for that interesting movie.👍 A friend mine had a Revell model of a British Vosper MTB, since these days I'm in love with these sharp British MTB and MGB but as well with the Italian MAS and the German S-100 S-Boats.

[@63grandsport11]

I'm surprised they didn't use an adjustable under water exhaust dump system for silent running at night like US PT boats. Or did they change the system when replacing the engines.

[@jibberism9910]

Strangely beautiful.

[@sundown005]

5:42 "Good lord, he's driving straight into a harbour he is!!"

[@michaeldundee8300]

The hull was ahead of it's time. . very similar to 70 era magnum boats used by the USCG with speeds reported up to 70 mph.

[@dennislloyd494]

Rather sad they couldn't get someone who had a clue as to what he's talking about!

[@Scriptorsilentum]

no kidding. oerlikon twin mount machine guns... really. 20 mm CANNON.

[@scouseaussie1638]

Dennis Lloyd what are you talking about?

[@hipcat13]

@@scouseaussie1638 Those Oerlikons were obviously way bigger than machine guns.

[@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus]

Many people would incorrectly call them machine guns. This is not about the armament anyway. I expect this guy knows boats rather than weapons.

[@neilpaterson7347]

I agree with Mr. Lloyd - this guy knows nothing. Keeps repeating the same witless stuff, like the two outboard engines have V-drives ! Wow ! Didn't really learn much......

[@graemehart4094]

Great review; I could feel the emotion and enthusiasm! Many thanks…

[@jhill4874]

The plumbing sure isn't original. Glad the hull is restored, but much of the accouterments are not authentic.

[@tango6nf477]

he did say they were replica

[@robertcalow5555]

Very touching, my Dad served on board MTB's and MGB's throughout the war, I understand they were all volunteers as they were basically small boats built round the engines with a big tank full of aviation fuel and ammunition if they got hit is wasn't good, the Spitfires of the sea as they were known

[@hoonbuilt5407]

To bad it doesn't have original motors but still a very nice boat

[@tambosnipes1652]

New one are better

[@vipertwenty249]

You mentioned a 3 pounder - I'd always understood it was the 40mm (which was a 2 pounder) quick firing weapon in the aft mounting plus a pair of 20mm forrard and a couple of rifle calibre mgs either side. 31kn with such lower output engines really isn't bad. Some of the stuff I've read over the years talks about a 6pdr sometimes being mounted aft in place of the 2pdr. That would be a single shot at a time weapon, not auto firing clips like the 2pdr, but would pack a fair bit more punch. One source which I'm not sure of the reliability of mentions a 2pdr being mounted forrard in place of the paired 20mm. I'm sure there will be people out there who know - do correct me if my sources were wrong! You are seriously underestimating the capability of that 2pdr by the way - not within a couple of hundred yards, but you might want to get down to around 800 yards or less because of the bucking of the boat spoiling your aim!

is a bit like restoring a Spitfire with a Cessna engine, isn't it ? not quite the same thing really..

[@timokuusela5794]

They restored a Spitfire with a lorry engine... They just ruined the boat. Shame. Like using only half throttle now...

[@gofigureme5749]

Should have rebuilt the Packhards, such a waste. 😧

[@davog1946]

Get real. Parts for ww2 v12’s are going to impossible to come by, like it or loath it these things are usually reliant on charities or tight budgets. Would you rather it rotted into the ground with Packards in its hull or as it is now with diesels?

@@davog1946 really I didn't know that! good information you got there, you must tell that to 50+ fully operational and airworthy Supermarine Spitfires with WW2 Rolls-Royce Merlin V12's !!

[@sheldonholy5047]

@ yes you can do it, but the cost is astronomical compared to the modern diesels and the V12s are nowhere near as reliable. It would certainly be more exciting with the original powerplants but this appears to have been restored with the intention of being used, so the Packards would be a nightmare for maintenance and cost.

[@sarahstevens2727]

I would be interested to know why all the controls are so heavy to operate. I appreciate that it will probably be solid linkage, and that , this in itself will create inherent friction. But, having operated older boats with rod and pinion linkages, I never found that the physical effort required was that great. I’m happy to accept any sensible explanation.

[@andrewtreloar7389]

How disappointing not to have the original packards.

[@ethanbeebe6193]

Theyre british, sadly

[@muckle8]

My late grandfather and uncle used to service 2 of these packard equipped mtb’s when they were stationed at fairmile marine in Falmouth , Cornwall .

[@PhillipAlcock]

Obviously a glass half empty person! It’s amazing that the boat has survived.

[@marlenehoy2487]

​​​@@ethanbeebe6193 weren't the original Packard engines for the mgb licence built Merlin's? Or without superchargers, I suppose would be meteors.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

Originals used the Packard V-1710. Big problems were maintenance and fuel consumption. But they were not expected to have a long service life.

[@adamconroy2146]

That was beautiful work Captain.