MGS2: Guard Shenanigans & Randomness

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

I see a lot of people asking how to get the Stealth Camo so here's the answer: You unlock it by collecting dog tags. Nearly all guards have dog tags and to collect them you first need to hold up a guard, then aim at their head from the front. They will then drop a dog tag for you to collect. Some of the guards will need some persuasion first, which means they won't drop a dog tag before you either wound them or shoot near them with a lethal weapon such as the SOCOM or USP. You need 50% of all dog tags to unlock the stealth camo, so for the Tanker chapter that's 76 dog tags and for Plant it's 121. You need to play through the game a few times to be able to collect enough. Be sure to use the same save file when collecting them (always do New Game+ instead of New Game). There are dog tags on all difficulty levels except European Extreme. I recommend playing on Very Easy, Easy and Normal if you want to get the stealth as fast as possible.

[@gagekieffer772]

I'm a bit late, but a pro tip on holding guards up: they will all be scared shitless when you point a heavy weapon at them, such as the grenade launcher or stinger.

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

@@gagekieffer772 Add that to the never-ending list of things I still hadn't known about this game! 😄

[@PlebNC]

"Nothing here." - Jarl of Whiterun, Big Shell Incident 2008.

[@LedYouAshtray]

I love the voice actor jokes, he was also a SWAT dude in the city of Steelport before becoming a terrorist

[@sirmcsir2080]

​@@LedYouAshtray he's also commissioner Gordon in arkham

[@LedYouAshtray]

@@sirmcsir2080 also Deckard Cain in Diablo

[@talibus22]

it's Jarl Ballin' for you

[@gordothewanderer]

"You over there, what are you doing..?" Just scratching my back

[@whitedude877]

Oh my god the shit at 4:15, that single frame animation from standing to hitting the floor caught me so off guard. Hilarious shit man, thanks for this.

[@TheJiGenius]

Same😂

[@Pjvenom1985]

"What is with that weapon!" Nearly spat my tea out watching this, forgot just how legendary these guards can be! Great video man.😂🎮🍀

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

I'm glad you found it entertaining! 😄 I certainly had quite a few laughs myself as well when recording all this stuff, messing with the guards never gets old 😂😂

[@mutestingray]

Why are you carrying such a weapon?

[@Jouzou87]

[points the gun at guard] "Here, let me demonstrate"

[@Снайпер_Хренов]

I never played this game. If they spot you with a wrong weapon, what happens?

[@bosshoodrat]

"This man is dead. Situational Normal, All Clear"

[@soapcnc]

Gotta love how the guards keep kicking their mates then be like "?? WTF HAPPENED TO U?" as if SOMEONE ELSE did that, not them

[@lycanthis9963]

The embodiment of the phrase "I didn't do it!" with a guilty look.

[@soapcnc]

@@lycanthis9963 The phase "It was already broken when I got here" xd

[@lycanthis9963]

@@soapcnc Oh. Okay, I was going off of an episode of Fairly Odd Parents.

[@jiggycalzone8585]

7:50 I shall play you the song of my people

[@SneedFeedAndSeed]

HELLO MY BABY HELLO MY HONEY

[@Paris__Michael]

💀💀😆😆😆😆😆!!

[@Christian-q9s]

BRO I LAUGHED WAYY TOO HARD AT THIS

[@ekonoviariadi1725]

LOL

[@lightinabox6931]

6:26 the disrespect

[@soapcnc]

I used to spend SO MUCH time messing with the guards on Shell 1 Core, using Claymores, Books, C4, Stuns, Chaff... It was so fun. I was like 5 years old and the game had just came out and I could never have enough of playing it. To this day, I finished the game like 10000x, I know every line of codec and cutscenes, but I keep finding new mechanics and fun stuff to do, like in this video. MGS2 is legendary. My fav game of all time

[@demarcotolson3763]

Did you ever enjoy injuring them watching them hobble away lol

[@anfilofeEA]

0:57 I always get a laugh at how this guard screams when he falls

[@HESHRocketWarhead]

The bit with the marines was gold. More so that Scott continued rambling even while his entire troupé got the domino effect enacted upon them.

[@blackhawk65589]

I lost it when the response team guard knocked all of his buddies over the ledge "it was nothing, all clear" XD

[@AllSoWavyReese]

😂😂😂

[@Gravity_studioss]

Soviet blocking unit taking care of the "deserters", 1942 colorized

[@morsecode980]

7:56 What’s he up to? Why, making a sick beat, that’s what

[@jflexys5114]

I like how, at the beginning, the guards look directly at Raiden after kicking their comrade off the bridge. It's like they had a sense that Raiden was there and blamed him lol

[@PhireandIce1999]

5:06 Guard: *Sees magazine* 5:14 Guard: *sees Emma* possible hostile sighted! Send backup! 5:19 Guard: *Starts kicking at Emma* Lmao!!!! 😂

[@JackPoppy]

I only have one question for everyone: WHAT ARE YOU DOING???

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

HOLD IT! What are you doing? 🧐

[@Anti_Aaron21]

Hmmmm?

[@questionableman3855]

HUH?!

[@TheSonicFairy]

Wuh-I-wha...? (Ref to *that* codec call)

[@erictapia822]

What is with that weapon? 🧐

[@PlebNC]

Points D.Mic at guards. Guards(in Patrick voice): He's just standing there, MENACINGLY!

[@godtheone2083]

"We gotta comment on the floating hair? No? Ok then" - the VERY aware gaurds

[@Shalashaskaa]

2:40 Raiden couldn’t live with himself after causing so much chaos

[@TheSonicFairy]

I saw it as him wanting to go for a swim with someone so he kidnapped a random guard and threw him into the ocean

[@PliskinYT]

Raiden casually mugging a guard using a 40mm Grenade launcher

[@Aperez]

“Everything’s normal. All clear.” *dead guards bleeds*

[@videogiocatore3]

This is how I spent most of the play time back in the mid 2000

[@EraseTime]

Never get tired about this damn game.

[@kazuoryoushinteki4266]

Metal Gear is not so much of a stealth game as it is a "guard trolling simulation" in which stealth is needed to meet that goal.

[@manbro1746]

Def a stealth game.

[@TheSonicFairy]

Fr

[@elfastzarate2971]

Mgs4 beauty beast special ammo brings it to another level

[@yungjoshx]

well said

[@shortboypinoy]

I forgot how hilarious it was to just mess with guards. All the dumb stuff that Kojima added made for this to be one of my favorite MG's

[@jonhanson6686]

Dude choking guards in mgs3 in front other guards was funny as hell

[@comicsansseraphim4934]

Are you Ames? Are you Ames now?

[@jonhanson6686]

*5 mins later* how about now it would be a huge help for me..guard to guard

[@zeromaycryboi]

1:33 NICE THROW! 😂

[@ChooseLife.YourLife]

0:48 is like an execution line up

[@MoinkAndKilo]

I think that is exactly what it is

[@armin_tab]

I didn’t know Raiden had so many “You must be Ames…” alternative lines!

[@ZUZAINFINITY]

I use to spend hours doing random bs with the guards rather than actually play the game lol. My favorite is in the tanker where Metal Gear RAY is. Do CQC on the Marines and they all fall like bowling pins lol.

[@SleepyHarryZzz]

Same. I used to spend a long time figuring out all of the interactions / behaviours depending on what part of guards you shoot. Kinda dark for the age I was but I had a lot of fun

[@gordothewanderer]

I used to have hours of fun hitting all the soldiers standing to attention in the Tanker 😂

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

Playing bowling with them is a lot of fun, "with them" in this case meaning using them as the pins 😂

[@potatolol4579]

4:14 I sprayed Pepsi everywhere 💀

[@AnthonySmith-sc4zs]

When this came came out…man it was perfection. I get so much nostalgia watching this video.

[@rjtheripper931]

You gotta admire the artistry here. 4:12

[@SimonCrazyCatGaudet]

I wonder if when guards kick other guards in water if its consider as a kill in the final score.

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

Nah it doesn't. In fact you can kick guards over railings into the water yourself as well without it counting as a kill. It's a little strange how it works, the game considers some kills as "indirect" and doesn't count them. It's even more lenient in MGS3 where you can use explosive drums to "indirectly" kill enemies lol

[@SimonCrazyCatGaudet]

@@Nemesis0709Gaming good to know, thanks!

[@Elvisbackpack]

Gurlokovitch soldiers are the cream of the crop.

[@spadeghostvampire7777]

I never considered them dead if they fell in the water, I saw it as saving their lives, so they washed up on shore instead of getting sucked down to the bottom of the Hudson Bay, when arsenal gear rose out of the water. 2:42 was funny.

[@shinkiro403]

Raiden: "Perhaps you are Ames, right?" Guard: "!?" R: "Perhaps you are Ames, right?" G: "!..." R: "Perhaps you are Ames, right?" G: "..." R: "Perhaps you are Ames, right?" G: "...maybe?"

[@NeptuneNoire]

Man I had soooo much fun knocking out the Marines in the tanker chapter.

[@gamingbymars]

0:51 he killed 4 of his own

[@elodiealaya]

Frankly, I don't care if you're Ames or not.

[@Hyuduro]

It being cutting off at 10:35 got me, lol.

[@po1kadot]

I only played the phantom pain but I need to know... Why are they kicking their allies?..

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

If a guard finds another guard asleep and wakes them up, that puts the guards in the area into a certain kind of "mode" where they think that their comrades are messing with them and if they proceed to come across any allies with their hands up, they'll kick them and knock them out. And given that fact you can get pretty creative and have the guards literally kill each other 😂

[@PlebNC]

They kick them to wake up sleeping/KO'd guards or to snap them out of distracted states like being held up and perving on magazines.

[@JackBrilla]

Big Shell similar to Diamond dog base don't you think?

[@Steambull1]

Not that it makes any difference to me, but why the hell would anyone only play Phantom Pain...

[@VersedFlame]

@@Steambull1 It was more available until very recently. It was the only one, before the Master Collection to make it to all platforms since MGS2 Substance.

[@justinw7323]

It's funny how AI in mgs2 is just as dumb as people in real life. Especially the AI in Easy difficulty.

[@TheSonicFairy]

If ya can't take out the guards, let them do the job for you.

[@120Pythons]

bro dropped the hardest mgs2 montage

[@thejoseonone]

Raidens is putting a show on for the guards

[@HProtagVtuber]

I always found it weird that in situations like 00:36 they always look at you regardless of distance and stealth camo or not. Cheating ai?

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

Normally they do that when you shoot a guard and another guard sees it happen, so they take out their binoculars and look into the direction where the shot came from, which makes sense. But in that case they're acting as if the player shot the guard even though it was their own comrade who knocked him out, which is totally cheating 😂

[@FantasyNero]

That's what happened when you Metal Gear Solid Games too much 😂😂😂

[@dracul1838]

a game that is ahead of the time when released (all MGS game actually)

[@holyknight5466]

I like the fact that if Raiden does anything suspicious dressed as them, it doesn’t strike them as odd because all of them are odd. 😂

[@teeman9266]

Trolling with the guards was the best!

[@munsterotaku3058]

7:48 Most intelligent soldier deployed

[@zeromaycryboi]

10:28 One of my favorite parts. 🤣

[@woutflorian]

0:50 This one cracked me up! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ML8443]

Playing mgs like your Deadpool

[@AustinCozart]

Why are they killing their comrades?

[@Loutron3030]

For context- this is the result of an exploit. When guards in this game see another guard with their hands up then they kick the guard who has their hands up to snap them out of it. Also, when an enemy gets hit near a ledge, they lose their balance and fall over it. So what the video creator has done here is combine these two conditions which results in the guards unintentionally killing their comrades.

[@MetalMoshin]

10:59 was that the sorrow scream? 😅

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

It is the same one yeah, it's part of that soundtrack haha

[@mountainmunky]

Aw man, haven't laughed that hard in a long time. lol

[@hugosan2518]

that was some fancy shooting you are pretty good

[@ShockerTopper]

(Did one of just knock that guard to the lower level to his death?...) "uh, looks like everything is clear here guys, let's go back to our positions" lol

[@roninzero12]

Why did you cut out the grenade's explosion?

[@neubro1448]

Also, the shell core guards react if you're low on health and bleeding.

[@SNOWDUDE13]

1:30 I lost my sides laughing at this part. 😂😂

[@DestructiveDave1900]

Even if you make the guards kill one another, would the game register that as the player killing a guard?

[@AlmightyRager95]

No. This and Metal Gear Solid 3 are fairly lenient. Even if you yourself kick an enemy over the edge, the game doesn't count it as a direct kill by the player. MGS3 goes even further with this. You can "kill" enemies in a few different ways without getting docked for it; blow enemies up with an explosive barrel, or make enemies fall to their death (e.g. shooting a rope on the suspension bridge, causing guards to slip off of it into the ravine). There's probably more in 3 than 2, but I don't know all of them. Still learning some stuff about it.

[@Christian-q9s]

8:50 give the boys a show

[@yojimba06]

Enjoyed every second of it!

[@Sev_Henry]

At around 1:15-1:25 is that an actual voice clip from the game? Or did you insert those cries for help? I have NEVER heard that happen before, and honestly don't even understand the context in which it occurs...Who's supposed to be crying for help?

[@noex100]

Obviously it's not from the game lol

[@Sev_Henry]

@@noex100 I thought not. But for some reason I just wasn't sure. It was only later that I realized that I'm pretty sure those voice clips are from Saw 3 lol In short, I'm a moron.

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

I inserted those sounds because those M9 bullets got thrown onto the conveyor belt and couldn't be reached

[@tatohayanami9156]

"Freeze!" *Proceeds to shoot*

[@RianLKLock]

Why kill enemies yourself when the backup unit does it for you

[@H4NGM4NDVD]

5:56 started hitted em with the krav maga

[@kirtz_9758]

How do you get stealth???

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

By collecting dog tags. You need 50% of all dog tags to unlock the stealth camo, so for the Tanker chapter that's 76 dog tags and for Plant it's 121. You need to play through the game a few times to be able to collect enough. There are dog tags on all difficulty levels except European Extreme. I'd recommend playing on Very Easy, Easy and Normal if you want to get the stealth camo as fast as possible. Edit: should also add that they need to be collected on the same save file, so always pick New Game+ instead of New Game

[@dylpickle0192]

Most of this video is basically the “Who killed Hannibal” meme

[@jonhanson6686]

Man I really wish you were doing that elevator stuff then just used the stealth camo to really mess with them 😂😂

[@canUsaythis]

OMG I can't breath this is amazing 😂

[@Deorman]

Do the soldiers count as kill if it's another soldier that pushed them overboard ?

[@GKOYG_and_KAAF_is_epic]

Likely as the game probably lack of script for killing bettwen npc's

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

It doesn't count no. The game even allows the player to melee guards over railing to their deaths without it counting as a kill

[@KeithCarterEOG]

4:03, what difficulty is this on? On Extreme, and I believe Hard as well, if they see you with anything other than the AK74U, it immediately goes into alert mode. They don't ask "What's with that weapon?"

[@Gray-_-Fox]

I believe this is on easy difficulty. In normal difficulty, it also immediately goes into alert mode.

[@deadspace4755]

Does it really do that on normal or higher? Very nice detail, sadly l don't remember messing up to try this

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

The clips in this video are on various difficulty settings, including Extreme. Whether they alert or not depends on the distance. The harder the difficulty, the further the distance they can enter alert mode from

[@deadspace4755]

@@Nemesis0709Gaming Ah just like with no outfit, it is the suspicious range distance and then then instant alert range. One outer and one inner

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

​@@deadspace4755Yep! That's exactly how it works, they have the "suspicious state" before alert state. Even on Extreme I was still far enough away from them at the back of the elevator that they didn't alert and were instead stuck in the suspicious or should I say confused state endlessly haha

[@AllSoWavyReese]

Wait what stealth equipment is that?!? Where do I pick it up!?

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

Copying and pasting the pinned comment I made: You unlock it by collecting dog tags. Nearly all guards have dog tags and to collect them you first need to hold up a guard, then aim at their head from the front. They will then drop a dog tag for you to collect. Some of the guards will need some persuasion first, which means they won't drop a dog tag before you either wound them or shoot near them with a lethal weapon such as the SOCOM or USP. You need 50% of all dog tags to unlock the stealth camo, so for the Tanker chapter that's 76 dog tags and for Plant it's 121. You need to play through the game a few times to be able to collect enough. Be sure to use the same save file when collecting them (always do New Game+ instead of New Game). There are dog tags on all difficulty levels except European Extreme. I recommend playing on Very Easy, Easy and Normal if you want to get the stealth as fast as possible.

[@TheSonicFairy]

2:36 *WHY* 😭

[@gagejoestv2714]

How do you get stealth tech 1:30

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

Copying and pasting the pinned comment I made: You unlock it by collecting dog tags. Nearly all guards have dog tags and to collect them you first need to hold up a guard, then aim at their head from the front. They will then drop a dog tag for you to collect. Some of the guards will need some persuasion first, which means they won't drop a dog tag before you either wound them or shoot near them with a lethal weapon such as the SOCOM or USP. You need 50% of all dog tags to unlock the stealth camo, so for the Tanker chapter that's 76 dog tags and for Plant it's 121. You need to play through the game a few times to be able to collect enough. Be sure to use the same save file when collecting them (always do New Game+ instead of New Game). There are dog tags on all difficulty levels except European Extreme. I recommend playing on Very Easy, Easy and Normal if you want to get the stealth as fast as possible.

[@John-jc3ty]

do these kills by guards count as your own?

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

Nope, they don't count

[@GoldenLion44]

0:50 why are you late with your status report?! Well, maybe because there's that crazy guard kicking his comrades off the ledge. 1:42 By the way, how do you encounter this type of enemy in the main game??? I haven't seen them even once there not even on E-Extreme. I've only seen them in VR missions

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

I think they become the standard Shell 1 reinforcements after you make contact with Ames and exit the Shell 1 Core. You automatically trigger a Caution mode after making contact with Ames and once you exit the Shell 1 core and enter any of the struts while the Caution mode is still on you will find plenty of those enemies patrolling around

[@Silvest3r]

"The situation is normal"

[@Prototyphoon64]

lol they don't get paid by the hour, so they need something to do to "kill" time xD

[@Luschan]

I always get panicked and squirrely when dealing with NPCs in this era of Metal Gear games, because you never really know exactly what they can or can’t see. You have to play them pretty extensively to figure out those boundaries through trial and error. They have specific parameters it takes time to understand. Like, they can’t “see” you running around across the room even though you’re technically in their line of sight, you have to be within a certain distance. And they can glimpse you but then forget about it. Which is confusing at first, because a real person wouldn’t just let it go if they glimpsed an intruder. There’s a weird balance between realism and video game logic.

[@SHADOWHEAT2008]

Is that kind of death counts at the Final Score or not?

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

Nope

[@Lecrie]

Do the drownings count as kills?

[@Iumbergh]

Bruh 7:48 LMAO 🤣🤣

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

The beauty of confusing 8 guards at the same time 😂

[@Glitchedpixel5]

7:09 My favorite part of the video

[@UltraGizmo64]

Whats the music at the end of the video?

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

This one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qojPeItpjdaMeZIsi=BRa5dHBHEHGlGPc_

[@UltraGizmo64]

@@Nemesis0709Gaming Thanks

[@TheShepherdsChapelChannel]

this was the top graphics back then.

[@markTK901]

Does any of this work in the Twin Snakes?

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

That's a good question, I've never tried this in TTS

[@B_Yaj1090]

Now I want to see

[@ASMRXOF]

I love messing with guards on The Twin Snakes

[@NL-tq1yr]

I bet your not ams either had me rolling 😂

[@Paris__Michael]

1:32 💀😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!!

[@Made.IN.Z.A.I.A]

7:40 怪しさ満載(笑)

[@coverzonekevin8560]

COMBO 5

[@NecroK47]

raiden TROLL.

[@TheJiGenius]

4:08

[@abu_adm3392]

One of the smartest games ..it is the smartest

[@MetalMoshin]

The guards won't walk up to you while you're in the elevator? 🤔

[@Nemesis0709Gaming]

Yup! That's what made this level of trolling possible 😂

[@MetalMoshin]

@@Nemesis0709Gaminghaha that's amazing