+Mr Chap xD As a farewell message from Kojima and how it goes in with the other games, I really like this ending :)
@Megajon8 жыл бұрын
***** I saw yeah. #FucKonami We all support Big Bo-- I mean...Kojima and his team now. And we're fighting Cipher...Konami. Kinda funny, I had a feeling Kojima would do something like this for years.
@Darkdodge8 жыл бұрын
Good one :)
@Schoney328 жыл бұрын
+Megajon so in the end, we the players are Venom Snake, and Kojima is Big Boss that this Legend (Game Series) Is ours forever even though Cipher the Patriots (Konami) Have control. now that you clarified that with me I officially declare this game my favorite game! thanks man!
@tdizz887 жыл бұрын
When Ocelot says "Don't worry he can handle it." because (in a slight 4th wall break) he knows YOU the player can handle it. The whole point of Venom was that, (assuming you created yourself with the character creator) YOU are Venom, and YOU are Big Boss's best man because YOU have been there with him his entire life because YOU played all the games. Before MGSV, you were by all accounts, ACTUALLY Big Boss because you played his life. The speech from Big Boss over from the cassette more than just wrapping up the plot points it is Hideo Kojima telling the fans of the series "I'm Big Boss and you are too, he's the two of us together. Where we are today we built it" and "Thank you my friend" for sticking with his series for this long, knowing he was on his way out of Konami. Kojima is telling the fans we are all as cool, idealistic and badass as Big Boss because we are his Phantom. Such a great ending
@ahdn2717 жыл бұрын
Best....comment....ever....
@jovannysolis34577 жыл бұрын
and the award for best ever speech goes to tdizz88 congratulations
@superk64117 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Knowing that makes this ending so much better. Too bad it had to end like this, being cut short, the game missing a whole chapter. Would have been cool to have played as Naked Snake in a squeal and create outer heaven.
@WW-fn7rt7 жыл бұрын
Venom Snake was Gray Fox the entire time.
@Miyakolover7 жыл бұрын
What he said is actually the truth.
@rockys2018 жыл бұрын
I kinda love how Venom Snake, whom we think is the real BB, walks towards his smoky destiny to face his demise(Solid Snake) truly completing the entire saga!
@rockys2018 жыл бұрын
***** For me the story was over with MGS4, there shouldn't have been anything else after that. MGS4 was my favorite by the way
@Roler428 жыл бұрын
I love MGSV because it fleshed out MGS4 and made me appreciate 4's story even more now with the true details of that mess of a story
@rockys2018 жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion the saga should have ended with MGS4. The story was complete then.
@haydenross46888 жыл бұрын
I take him walking into the smoke as him walking back into the current life he has, not the fight with solid, because the door logo changes back to diamond dogs after it shows outer heaven.
@rockys2018 жыл бұрын
broman 1449 Yes, it's literally before the very first old MG game.
@Snoogen118 жыл бұрын
Ironic really, Skullface was deprived of his identity, and so was medic boss.
@Rparhar918 жыл бұрын
"From Fox, two phantoms were born." Skullface lived in the shadow of Zero, while Venom was the shadow of Big Boss.
@Hound-Fox7 жыл бұрын
Crazy how this was hinted in the first ever trailer of MGS Ground Zeroes in 2012.... Kojima is one smart bastard.....
@heberb5 күн бұрын
FOX and XOF. Skull Face is the ugly reflection of the image of Big Boss
@revolver-boss-27968 жыл бұрын
Damn, it gives me goosebumps seeing the Outer Heaven logo in the mirror when he breaks it, I can imagine him walking to the other room confronting Solid Snake.
@annhentaiuser66586 жыл бұрын
REVOLVER-BOSS-27 Then got his ass handed with a lighter and spray.
@pentlik3 жыл бұрын
would be interesting but the fact that he has an emblem of DD all the time on his shoulder kind of contradicts it
@revolver-boss-27963 жыл бұрын
@@pentlik bro he puts in the cassette Operation intrude N131 which is the game Metal Gear
@pentlik3 жыл бұрын
@@revolver-boss-2796 of course, but it doesnt have to mean it's from that time. I would rather quess that it's still not long after end of TPP. nothing except from the logo of outer heaven, which i think has only allegorical sense here (next role of venom) points that time passed between two cassettes. And the fact that he still wears DD uniform completely kills interpretation that is just before fighting Solid Snake
@Quadruple_curious3 жыл бұрын
@@pentlik at the end of the day it’s very ambiguous and up to the player to decide. I think either way it doesn’t really matter if it’s in the past or not. The player knows what is being referenced and what is to come. He could be in the past, he could be wearing the DD patch perhaps for sentimental reasons; idk. Again either way I think the point and impact is the same.
@t.1044 жыл бұрын
Girls in front of a mirror: Ew, I'm so ugly, I need more makeup. Boys in front of a mirror:
@DantesInferno963 жыл бұрын
Men
@connordervoncyberlifegesen85293 жыл бұрын
Noah Leopold *gods
@MusicConfusion993 жыл бұрын
*Men with demons in front of a mirror* Would be more truthful.
@emmy45373 жыл бұрын
ha joke’s on you. I don’t wear makeup.
@emmy45373 жыл бұрын
Maribor Forest nothing can solve your stupidity
@frendaseivelun90458 жыл бұрын
Throughout the entire cutscene, one can notice that the door behind Venom has the Diamond Dogs logo. However, at 5:18, look closely in the mirror, bottom left. It changed to the Outer Heaven logo. I fucking love these small references!
@MadBeastTitan7 жыл бұрын
+james dean the time jump actually happens when he flips over the cassette tape. the other side is labeled Operation Intrude N131.
@MadBeastTitan7 жыл бұрын
+Michael R N313*
@Mira-gf2df7 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you saw that o.O! The first thing I noticed after he smashed the mirror was how his prosthetic was all of a sudden a normal arm o.o
@AnakinSkywakka7 жыл бұрын
+NovaSeraAngel | The Catholic Gamer Disappointing?
@lancecryor7 жыл бұрын
Also the eye patch switched sides.
@wookienutsack54818 жыл бұрын
The explosions and gunfire in the background, that is Solid Snake attacking. Phantom Snake knows this is his last moments alive, notice how the logo on the door changes from Diamond Dogs to Outer Heaven after Phantom smashes the mirror.
@MrStath19868 жыл бұрын
+Ash halo Let's be real, in terms of how this ending changes things, Big Boss sent Solid Snake - the supposed 'weaker one' of LET - to die. He was making sure the loose ends got cleared up, presuming Liquid dead already thanks to the Kingdom of the Flies, and didn't know about Solidus.
@Andefir3 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, never cought that. Very interesting
@AppyTheApe3 жыл бұрын
Imo when he played the operation intrude tape at 4:29 or something sorry if I messed the timestamp, it symbolises the 10 years timeskip and that he succeeded over solid in the end the smoke was of the gunpowder consumed by their weapons in that combat. Well that's just my opinion and I personally believe it since I love venom haha
@SonTaicario3 жыл бұрын
@@AppyTheApe you can think that but remember, Solid Snake ends up defeating BB so it wouldn’t make sense Venom killed him
@AppyTheApe3 жыл бұрын
@@SonTaicario I'm well aware of that mate, I was really high while writing that shit lol. But tbh it feels really good to think that way haha. Either that excuse to satisfy myself, or else tell myself that "Venom died when he was around 60 years of age so it's fine solid was pretty young, atleast lived half century." so I don't feel sad.
@ShinkuAura8 жыл бұрын
For those who don't understand. When Big Boss talks to Venom he is telling you that you achievements are his too. You and Big Boss are one. You took Big Boss's Identity and Big Boss took yours (name, birthday and your face) You Ahab are the reason that Outer Heaven is very popular and infamous. Because you build it from zero. One way or another Outer Heaven was created by you/Big Boss. When Venom flips the tape... 10 years has passed. Big Boss informs Venom about Solid Snake's arrival with the tape of Operation Intrude N313. Venom has killed many people through-out the years leaving his horn to ultimately have it's final form. Venom gets ready to fight the son of Big Boss. When Venom sees himself on the mirror, he finally see that he has lost everything he had. He lost his identity, his memories, his love interest(Quiet), his comrades and his sanity. All he has left is war and loyalty to Big Boss. He smashes the window because he doesn't like what he's become. When Venom turns around he returns to the past (1984) because the next adventure lies in Metal Gear for MSX. For those who say "But this was suppose to be about Big Boss's descend to villainy." I think you forgot that at the end of MGS4, Big Boss says that ever since he killed his mentor The Boss. He has already been dead. In Peace Walker Big Boss took the title that the CIA gave him a decade ago and created Outer Heaven at the same time. Big Boss predicted that they were going to be head hunted after the Peace Walker incident. Big Boss is already corrupted because he is mis-understanding the will of The Boss leaving him to do reckless choices. Big Boss was never a bad guy...he simply didn't understand what his mentor wanted after all these years...leaving Big Boss to look like a bad guy,
@88ights8 жыл бұрын
+Omars510 Damn thanks!
@TheCoriolanusSnowden8 жыл бұрын
you sir just made sense of this to me. i will stop complaining. because you did it without insulting the ones who don't like the ending....I'm now indifferent
@kenlee29748 жыл бұрын
+Omars510 Strong post
@a.i.m42428 жыл бұрын
Now I get it.
@venomheart52818 жыл бұрын
What about him saying to Solid Snake at the final battle that War is everything? Suprassing all pleasures of life? About how war will be needed in the world for a soldier's paradise? And how he was going to raise child soldiers? "They'll make fine soldiers in the next war..." That is evil. He misunderstood the Boss's will and that made him into a villain.
@jakeus25758 жыл бұрын
So this Big Boss is the big boss we kill in Metal Gear? And the real Big Boss is the one that appears in MG2 and returns at the end of MGS4?
@jakeus25758 жыл бұрын
So the real Big Boss had Solid Snake kill this Big Boss? Haha pretty funny actually
@brightsuperstition8 жыл бұрын
The "Big Boss" in MG1's Outer Heaven is actually Venom Snake. The real Big Boss is the one in MG2's Zanzibarland. I doubt that the real Big Boss had Solid Snake kill Venom Snake. Notice in this video that Big Boss sent Venom Snake a tape that presumably contained the details of Operation Intrude N313. My theory is that Big Boss was warning Venom Snake that he had sent Solid Snake out on a mission to kill him. But Big Boss probably thought that Venom Snake could take down a rookie Solid Snake. But alas, that didn't happen. Both Big Boss and Venom Snake underestimated Solid Snake.
@Zillionjape8 жыл бұрын
+brightsuperstition there's many theories you could make on this. Either Big Boss wanted to test his son (he didn't care about them as his sons) or he wanted to test Venom, or Venom had his own agenda (that's why he sent Gray Fox first who is FOXHOUND's best agent).... I think that part should remain as mystery, because then it's your decision, because Venom Snake is you but he's also Big Boss. You can decide what happened with yourself. Did you go against Big Boss and that's why Solid Snake beat you? Or were you in team work with Big Boss all the way?
@yakuzajoe8 жыл бұрын
+Jake Harries Solid Snake wasn't supposed to succeed in his first mission.
@Semibrucelee8 жыл бұрын
+Zillionjape It's a fact Big Boss has never liked his "sons", so we can assume he wanted Solid dead. But then, why did he send Gray Fox? If he truly was considered the best Foxhound agent, can we also assume he wanted Venom dead? This ending, imo, either suggests he survived after Solid (hence why he comes back on screen after having played "Operation Intrude N313) and believes Big Boss betrayed him, or, it's another tape being played, perhaps N312, feels betrayed (becomes the "evil" one), and Big Boss sends Solid. But even this doesn't make sense because he wanted Solid to fail. The whole story doesn't make sense to me, or i'm just stupid for trying to figure out something that isn't there.
@HuziharaFushi2 жыл бұрын
6 years later and still one of the best and craziest game narrative I've ever seen.
@ander23172 жыл бұрын
Death Standing is not a trip, lol 😂
@illusivemusings2 жыл бұрын
plus it seems there's always more little details and nuances to be discovered. Blows my mind.
@BigBoss-zi6tj2 жыл бұрын
this cutscene changed me
@germantarnoski7130 Жыл бұрын
@@BigBoss-zi6tj same. It's kind of silly but when I find myself in a tough situation I think back to this. I'm big boss. I carry that with me wherever I go. Of course that might be because I played this game when I was 14 and it left a big impact on me.
@saeedbarari2207 Жыл бұрын
@@germantarnoski7130 I really love it how no one cares about age restrictions on games :)
@bladewolflq-84i862 жыл бұрын
The fact that all that panic in Outer Heaven is caused by a "green" 20 years old guy on his first mission that despite being given false information and intel for the whole mission he is still trashing the entire place is kinda funny in a sad way.
@darkness21602 жыл бұрын
Well he is a big boss clone, so he’s got the skillz
@zortlungac3846 Жыл бұрын
should have replaced E ranked staff long ago
@alwest4472 Жыл бұрын
@@zortlungac3846 they’re all sss, snakes just built different (literally)
@Boss.X5 Жыл бұрын
And ridiculous, solid should be dead
@makowiec2k3 жыл бұрын
When in reality Big boss uses Venom just like USA used Big boss.
@andrescaceres28223 жыл бұрын
Well i mean... it's was Zero who did that. Snake pretty much have to work things out
@cooppp2 жыл бұрын
@@andrescaceres2822 There's no reason Big Boss couldn't have come out of hiding and told Venom and Miller the truth. Instead he's complicit in using him
@DantesInferno962 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with that. Venom as well as Quiet got used by people around them.
@GonzoInside2 жыл бұрын
That's what they call a character arc.
@2Good2BeTrue45Ай бұрын
No he isn't. This is what Venom wants. He even acknowledges it in the nuclear ending and it's also echoed by Ocelot as well. It's Miller who is enraged for no reason at the fact Big Boss wants nothing to do with him after his betrayal which led Zero and Paz right to him and caused the destruction of MSF
@mysteriousknight80508 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this sence takes a place at 1995. So this is the moment before Venom dies. Before Solid Snake kills him. I really feel bad for Venom Snake. He was the most pute heart guy.
@luigiremix47703 жыл бұрын
The first part takes place in 1984, because the diamond dogs logo is on the door at first. When he flips the cassette to "operation intrude n313", the logo on the door changes, showing that 10 years have passed. When he turns around and walks away, that's when he's on his way to face solid
@ilikepigeons61013 жыл бұрын
All he wanted to do was to be a medic, not a front line leader
@alanfaraj34503 жыл бұрын
You're comment gave me a huge mind blowing realisation..... damn
@ilikepigeons61013 жыл бұрын
@@subpain4257 true, and the funny part is that he is meant to be us, the player xD. That's what I loved about TPP, they managed to incorporate that into true game well, us being big boss
@CJ178833 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe since venom doesn't have any grey hair and he still looks like he's in his prime where he could snap solid in two
@diablo2punk5 жыл бұрын
Gives me chills at the very end as Venom walks away, knowing that he's facing his potential death at Solid Snake's hands.
@DiogoSantos-lz5ii4 жыл бұрын
Im new to this why would solid snake want to kill venom?
@minaajoku11693 жыл бұрын
Diogo Santos because he was sent to kill “big boss” if I remember correctly
@DiogoSantos-lz5ii3 жыл бұрын
@@minaajoku1169 by who?
@Atok11113 жыл бұрын
@@DiogoSantos-lz5ii by big boss. have u played og metal gear ?
@DiogoSantos-lz5ii3 жыл бұрын
@@Atok1111 i havent i only played mgsv and mgs4 and loved both and wanted to learn e bit of tjhe story :D
@hzjake Жыл бұрын
One of the most badass cutscene in gaming history. Without any fighting or action, just by camera work and narration.
@TheMegagamer728 жыл бұрын
This game is Kojima's way of formally crowning you the name of Big Boss. We are all Big Boss, we are the legend.
@JLCL018 жыл бұрын
+TheMegagamer72 Sounds like a cult. :B
@jeromephan33098 жыл бұрын
+TheMegagamer72 But we all be killed by a rookie named Solid Snake :/
@ChrisLeMale8 жыл бұрын
Maybe we are still allive.only Kojima knows that^^
@KingOmega1238 жыл бұрын
We are not Big Boss, we are Phantom Boss
@rafaelfmolina8 жыл бұрын
+TheMegagamer72 you are all puppets for a heartless man that used his best friend as bait so he could be free to chain the world. Hurray!
@supahtyp8 жыл бұрын
This happens to me sometimes when I am drunk
@banzaiboy15978 жыл бұрын
You realise that you're a phantom? 0.0
@lorddorito43077 жыл бұрын
supahtyp you break mirrors?
@vrowe95386 жыл бұрын
You became a demon and go into smoke.
@Ikkey6 жыл бұрын
I'm dead
@algernonpapadopoulos59305 жыл бұрын
You get killed by Solid Snake?
@davidsnakedoe73227 жыл бұрын
so, analyzing the final cutscene something comes to my mind. The change of logo on the door behind Venom indicates that some time passed away between the moment in which Venom hears "From the man who sold the world" cassette side, and the moment in which he hears the "Operation Intrude n 313" cassette side, or the logo change is just allegorical? If the first hypotesis is true, this would mean that Venom remembers who he really is long before the moment in which he has to face Solid Snake. Anyway, all that blood on his face shows clearly that he had to fight too many battles, becoming a demon to let Big Boss achieve his plan. He understands he's been used, and get angry. But what is shown also in this ending is that Kojima rewards us with the title of Big Boss, for having been loyal to his masterpiece all over the years. I have to say...after 28 years, I felt like I lived the end of an era. Thank you mr Kojima, for having given us such a great piece of ART. *Military salute*
@kevingfelix89425 жыл бұрын
o7
@smirnovwhycinema17604 жыл бұрын
In this scene, moreover your details, occurred transition to first metal gear events, and Venom Snake downald Operation 313 on MSX competer from Solid Snake... Realy genius!
@dbstop91944 жыл бұрын
2020 Just finished this game, I feel the same, an era has ended for me.
@davidsnakedoe73224 жыл бұрын
@@smirnovwhycinema1760 yes, several years go by...and Venom realises he has been "sold" too by "the man who sold the world". This is why I prefer Venom Snake over Big Boss, I think that in MGSV Kojima needed to clarify more that Big Boss was not a hero like everyone was saying after MGS3, but he chose a wrong path. Only true heroes in the saga are Solid Snake and The Boss, and I would put even Revolver Ocelot in the list, even if in a much more ambyguous way
@davidsnakedoe73224 жыл бұрын
@@dbstop9194 that's it, man :(
@daveymorgan37782 жыл бұрын
Finding out that venom snake was actually not big boss gave me so much respect for him because this formal medic was able to neutralize a squad of parasite induced humans that have become super humans able to kill an entire army and defeated a metallic titan that was able to summon metallic archaea from the ground in short the medic could be more dangerous then big boss himself
@spikey2882 жыл бұрын
Not only dangerous, but kind, and tried to do what's right.
@mateoreyes69212 жыл бұрын
@@spikey288 Until Solid came.....poor Venom
@notyourdaddude1957 Жыл бұрын
What really makes me appreciate Venom is that he isn't a clone, he isn't some product of Naked Snake who has his abilities, he is literally a completely different person who takes (unwillingly) the role of Big Boss, and lives up to his title.
@amarson232211 ай бұрын
@@notyourdaddude1957 true, venom was its own person with high skill set even to compare to the real big boss/jack, he was just manipulated and brainwashed into thinkin he is big boss but he still isnt genetic clone of big boss but rather highly skilled person with a good heart, venom snake is a chad
@supernovax68673 жыл бұрын
Venom Snake had the most tragic life of all the snakes. Forced to live in the shadows of another man, forced to kill his own men, and fought Cipher, then dies and is forever forgotten. Meanwhile cowardice Naked Snake gets all the credit and has no shame creating a phantom for his own selfishness protection.
@chawsonTV3 жыл бұрын
at least he didn't die as a roasted chicken like Solidus in MGS4 :P
@jack_hunt11033 жыл бұрын
He isn't forgetten we are "the player" gonna remember him in our memories
@Elbendikou3 жыл бұрын
Not big Boss created the phantom! It was Major Zero and ocelot. Orig. Big Boss was in coma too, while he was brainwashed. But he took the Gift they made him, and tried to do what he had too... and his legacy isn‘t forgotten! He also is Big Boss
@creeperhunterD3 жыл бұрын
@DimebagVision what
@thebushbros66263 жыл бұрын
@DimebagVision Dude calm the fuck down
@therandomdude81215 жыл бұрын
Still get chills 4 years later
@itsyourratbrotherjerry.46263 жыл бұрын
5* now
@thecourticaljester91523 жыл бұрын
Especially that audio stinger at around 1:50-2:00. I felt my goosebumps rise up my back as that happened.
@whyher229Ай бұрын
It's 8 now
@robinmorales53652 жыл бұрын
If you look closely when he smashes the mirror you will notice that there’s no metal hand on the “other side” as well as no shrapnel in the head either, meaning that as he breaks the mirror and stares, the real big boss is staring back at him. I think this means that he has officially lost his own self to the persona of big boss. In other words, while “Venom” died at the hands of Solid Snake, the “Medic” died long before that.
@synthgal109010 ай бұрын
It's not the "real" big boss in the mirror. When he breaks the mirror, there is a second him on the other side. You'll notice the eyepatch and horn flip because it went from reflection to model.
@Owen_trains20108 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think that when Venom smashes the glass that Kojima should have made him age to how he would have looked in MG1? Cant help but feel that would have been better.
@Donkey_Lips6 жыл бұрын
Marksman Dan yeah.... but 10 years wouldn’t make much of a difference. Remember he was only a mental clone, not a genetic, so Venom wouldn’t have aged rapidly as Solid Snake.
@narutardkyuubi6 жыл бұрын
Err, I think the Medic was already older than Big Boss to begin with. Combined with the rough life style of being a soldier (not to mention god knows what he did to end up Demon-ed); that ages a guy. Would’ve been even better if we got to hear David Hayter at the very end though. Bring things full circle and whatnot.
@Gadget-Walkmen3 жыл бұрын
narutardkyuubi he looked younger than big boss but I’m sure it doesn’t really matter. He still plays the role just fine.
@joshf97363 жыл бұрын
The mirror represents the fourth wall
@Gadget-Walkmen3 жыл бұрын
@@joshf9736 How?
@darnoc0018 жыл бұрын
We are all Demons. We are all, Phantoms of the Big Boss.
@RisingJericho8 жыл бұрын
+darnoc001 We are all Phantoms of JOHN CENAAA
@guidedgreen8 жыл бұрын
+RisingJericho duh duhnah ahhh
@EkumaGamingHDPlaythroughs8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Hopkins du du du duuuuuuuuw
@QuackotheSmacko8 жыл бұрын
You fool
@QuackotheSmacko8 жыл бұрын
Have you played the game?
@Wr0ngW4y7 жыл бұрын
5:07 Mirror destroyed. -300 GMP
@leonardorafaelvideos80207 жыл бұрын
Haha! I've actually played the ending to many times. I must be broke now
@DreadNawght7 жыл бұрын
motherbase is now in the red S++ leaves
@kyrax13934 жыл бұрын
Maybe it is just a window 5:17
@StanTVXD7 жыл бұрын
if u looks closely after he punch the mirror .u can see there is Outer Heaven logo on the door
@danieltubio-rey19847 жыл бұрын
Yea your right this is because from when he finishes listening to the tape and you see him entering the scene again as ' Demon Snake ' there has been roughly 10 years ago. Its a very good time lapse.
@HoneyMochi5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the shape of the break of the mirror
@SHARPOASIS3 жыл бұрын
I think the smoke at the end signifies he’s about to confront solid snake at least that’s what I would love to believe because it does make slot of sense of him being angry and finally seeing that he was being used the entire time not to mention outer heaven has gone to shit
@Muzzle13003 жыл бұрын
I think this was the best way to make the player feel actually conflicted with real big boss, since MGS3 there was always the issue that Boss was such a likable character it was hard to see him become the laughing villain in MG1 and then feeling retconned to be more complex in MG2. This hit two birds with one stone, the MG1 Big Boss was Venom who’s whole purpose was to be the villain so he takes all attention off of real Big Boss, Venom was willing to literally become a demon to hold up a legend and isn’t the slightest offended that Big Boss basically betrayed him by leaving him to deal with skull face. The game kind of becomes meta with the phantom theme, and does add a symbolic nature to Skull Face; he knew he’d be erased and even though he had the biggest impact on events in the series canonically, no one would remember him but he didn’t care as long as the job was done, Venom is a mirror to that where he has one the biggest impacts on the series as he’s the original Big Boss we kill in MG1 yet his true identity is forgotten.
@mateoreyes69213 жыл бұрын
Man, that's true Almost every bad thing that happened in the Metal Gear games is Thanks to Skull Face
@JimmehRulez Жыл бұрын
@@mateoreyes6921 i mean it was mainly due to volgin doing a dumb prank that got the boss shot
@technite536010 ай бұрын
He didn't betray him, why he would destroy his own Outer Heaven ? He sends snake because he was a rookie, since he worked like a "double agent" in FoxHound, the Outer Heaven investigation was given to BigBoss, he was obligated to do something, in the end even Big Boss said he was not supposed to do all that... In metal gear on MSX.
@Dylan-xx2tk7 ай бұрын
@@technite5360Muzzle wasn't saying Venom was betrayed by Big Boss in regards to Outer Heaven, they were saying that Big Boss pretty much dumped Skull Face on Venom and just said "Sayonara" before vanishing. Pretty much dumping everything on Venom's lap to deal with while he messed around elsewhere in the world.
@TheGuyWithN0Username8 жыл бұрын
Even though we didn't play as big boss, you have to admit. Venom Snake was a badass. Too bad he didn't talk much :l
@TheProfesionalGamerGGN4 жыл бұрын
its part of playing the phantom and feeling the phantom pain
@hugo85003 жыл бұрын
@@TheProfesionalGamerGGN Or just Kiefer Sutherland costing too much
@ayoo.bruce013 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly he has quite a bit of dialogue in the game and when he does talk it's just bad ass.
@alienated81133 жыл бұрын
but you probably believed you were playing bigboss for a while, then its taken away, a phantom pain, but then you realize why can't you believe it anyways, and on top of that the actual bigboss makes it easier saying, "from now on, you're Big Boss" you the player who played snake eater and peace walker and acid, you lived big boss' life anyways, for all intents and purpose, Venom is Big Boss same as 2+2=5 in 1984
@Dauniverse3 жыл бұрын
That's so you can immerse yourself in the role of Big Boss, that's his whole point and why he doesn't talk much
@LikeADamnFIDDLE2 жыл бұрын
As the years went on, I realized how much I love and respect venom snake. He's a way better person than Big Boss, he was loyal to Big Boss even though he fucked him over majorly, because he's so silent I can't help but be so intrigued of what he's thinking of the events that happen in front of his eyes, and I just feel really bad for him, a man with basically no choice but to throw his identity and life away to be a decoy for a horrible man that couldn't give less of a shit about his own soldiers. A very tragic character in a series full of them, and he's definitely one of my favorites.
@anthonyfernandez822 жыл бұрын
Big Boss cares about his soliders. However, he realized he needed to make certain compromises to build his nation. Love that character development
@MGrey-qb5xz2 жыл бұрын
but he's still big boss's most loyal dog , a solider who knows nothing else in life but war
@MrValentineFunny2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't Big Boss decision, it was Zero's. BB didn't even liked the ideia of his friend taking his place.
@thebadaids2 жыл бұрын
You got Big Boss’s morals and ideas all wrong, brother. Do a deep dive into more of his lore and life.
@onyxfinger7431 Жыл бұрын
Big Boss never acted with bad intents. He just tried to achieve another's will, one that he didn't understand, and it led to chaos. It was an unfortunate mistake with punishing consequences, but Big Boss was actually sorta like an anti-hero and not a villain.
@Donkey_Lips7 жыл бұрын
I like the symbolism at the end.... putting his bloodier "Venom" name to rest and becoming "Big Boss". He punches his blood-soaked reflection, which then turns into some blood around his horn... then completely clean with some visible scars when he walks away.... Notice the position of his horn and eye patch "switch sides" between the shards after he smashes the mirror? From a mirrored view to actual view.... As if he's destroying the realization that he was merely a reflection of someone else all along?
@banzaiboy15977 жыл бұрын
Donkey Lips Not only that, but he has his working eye again (uncovered), there is no shrapnel in his forehead and he even has his original human arm! All the things that he gave up or that were taken from him trying to serve Big Boss!
@he1912547 жыл бұрын
The reflection in the broken mirror is also of outer heaven, not DD anymore.
@trcsonic8 жыл бұрын
Now i prefer Venom Snake instead Big Boss.
@Caine618 жыл бұрын
>:(
@pinmaria69788 жыл бұрын
+Big Boss we still lub u ! :3
@EnglanderUK8 жыл бұрын
Because you are Venom. The most badass character of all time wasn't Big Boss, Solid or anyone else in the series, it was always you.
@prototipo9328 жыл бұрын
My favourite character from the mgs games is Venom Snake too :D
@alexlagunas8 жыл бұрын
+Big Boss I still love you! Oh and what was the music during the reveal
@sassydispatch89343 жыл бұрын
So this scene starts in 1984 on Motherbase, with Big Boss sending a tape to his brainwashed body double Venom Snake. Venom smiles at the message on the tape because he truly believes that Big Boss, (the man he revered enough to commit his military service to when he was a medic working at MSF in the 70s) has picked him and showered him in glory by selecting him to share the role of Big Boss. Venom smiles in 1984 to be praised so highly and given such an important role by his idol. He's been surgically altered to resemble Big Boss, hypnotized and trained into emulating him. He's brainwashed of course. He's been psychologically programmed to follow orders so that the real Big Boss can accomplish the job of setting up Outer Heaven free from the wrath of the superpowers and cipher. The tape flips and 10 years progress and the Venom that returns to mirror (now in Outer Heaven) is no longer smiling. He looks enraged. Maddeningly unhinged. But I think he's lucid enough to realize what's happening here. If you play mg1 you find that as Solid Snake you make your way through the fortress of Outer Heaven on your way to kill who you think is Big Boss (in fact it's Venom) . And the gunfire we hear at the start of the games opening scene is that moment in Outer Heaven in mg1. Solid Snake is closing in. Venom is backed into a corner. His defences have crumbled, his super weapons are all destroyed. If there was ever a moment for the real Big Boss to assist it's now. Venom knows the Big Boss has sent this rookie agent to Outer Heaven because he needs to convince the US government that he's not secretly supporting Outer Heaven. But with the new Outer Heaven complete Venom has become a loose end. So Big Boss is now using Solid Snake as a knife in the back of Venom. Big Boss is abandoning Venom to his fate because he's done with him. And Venom realizes this. That's where the rage comes from. Venom is enraged when he see's the mirror because he realizes that Big Boss was never really holding him esteem. Big Boss was never his friend. Big Boss used Venom as long as it was convinient. Like a human shield and a lap dog. Big Boss stays conviniently protected while Venom sits on the frotntlines and does the dirty work. Venom realizes that Solid Snake is coming to kill him in outer heaven, because Big Boss is done with him. Big Boss no longer needs him. So when Venom sees the face of the man who manipulated him, used him and then threw him away in the mirror, a man who he's become surgically altered to resemble, he destroys the visage in a gutteral rage. By the time The Phantom Pain ends Venom idolizes Big Boss. By the time Metal Gear 1 ends Venom hates Big Boss. Big Boss is not a good person. He uses soldiers, Venom included and throws them away to justify remaining in power. The same way the US Government used his mentor, The Boss and threw her life away, during Operation Snake Eater. Big Boss becomes the thing he hated. He betrays Miller, Venom, Diamond Dogs, Fox and eventually Outer Heaven. Treating soldiers as expendable pawns and turning them to kill each other in the name of protecting a political ideal, or sometimes even worse, to protect his own power.
@heraldofoblivion4993 жыл бұрын
I'm keeping this
@swingandamiss59423 жыл бұрын
America used The Boss to do their wet work and take all the blame. Big Boss used Venom to do their wet work and take all the blame. Venom used the soldiers we captured to do our wet work and risk their lives for the sake of Big Boss's legacy. This whole game is explained by the song The Man Who Sold The World because of the theme of Metal Gear Solid is that everyone is a spy and no one is telling the truth, manipulating everyone for a bigger picture. Big Boss is and is not a hero, Venom Snake is and is not a hero, Solid Snake is and is not a hero, they were all manipulated by their superiors to carry on a mission and get it done. This fucking game man, philosophical, cynical, romantic, and truly a Hideo Kojima game
@dingorandog3 жыл бұрын
@@swingandamiss5942 what about raiden tho
@swingandamiss59423 жыл бұрын
@@dingorandog Raiden deez nuts miss me with that weak shit bro
@kop15222 жыл бұрын
You know Big Boss sent Solid to die at Outer Heaven right But Solid was too good and made it past So Venom had to fight and ended up dying
@DDT3608 жыл бұрын
Look at 5:18 it's Outer Haven logo and I assume the gun shot outside Venom Snake room it's the intrusion of Solid Snake in Outer Haven base. Please make MG 1 and 2 remake.
@DDT3608 жыл бұрын
Meta Critic Yes he wear diamond dog logo but if you play for the first time, you can see the intro where Venom Snake play the cassette on the right corner there written location at Outer Haven.
@ericb.13848 жыл бұрын
+Meta Critic There's a time lapse when he flips the tape
@HoneyMochi5 жыл бұрын
@Federal Republic of Aurelia when venom flips the tape 10 years pass
@jayy_934 жыл бұрын
Outer Heaven* Outer Haven is the name of the battleship used by Liquid Ocelot in 4
@GoklasM4 жыл бұрын
Remake of original Metal Gear? No, pls no. I will never be able to kill Venom Snake.
@Bahuers7 жыл бұрын
>the games ending ties in with the beginning of metal gear 1990 BRAVO KOJIMA
@Ali-xs2ij7 жыл бұрын
god himself no that is tie to metal gear 1987 ending
@desireeman915 жыл бұрын
1987
@desireeman915 жыл бұрын
Metal gear 2 came out in 1990
@thegamingprozone19414 жыл бұрын
Thats the Timeline
@genixthesaiyanyt23997 жыл бұрын
this ending is under rated I love it people hate what they don't understand
@rowanbetts55847 жыл бұрын
ikr fucking love this cutscene
@jameselliott24187 жыл бұрын
After watching this I got chills
@Jack-bt5zd7 жыл бұрын
maybe because you have to redo the hospital part and this can't really be accepted as an ending because of that
@Jack-bt5zd7 жыл бұрын
love this scene but it's not an ending
@genixthesaiyanyt23997 жыл бұрын
No its just the begin
@hkay937 жыл бұрын
Upon re-watching this after having completed it last year, I think this scene is actually really damn good. The whole 'replaying the hospital mission again' thing can F right off though lol.
@oogaboogie5 жыл бұрын
Wait I haven't beat the game you have to replay that shit?
@dbkwk92 жыл бұрын
@@oogaboogie yep🤣
@oogaboogie2 жыл бұрын
@@dbkwk9 lol I said this so long ago, I beat the game twice true ending lmao
@dbkwk92 жыл бұрын
@@oogaboogie I keep on getting reply notifications from a comment I made four years ago so I understand
@ZombryaTheDark7 жыл бұрын
so this tape is pretty much meant for us (the players)
@AnakinSkywakka7 жыл бұрын
Basically, as a thanks from Kojima.
@greywalker5057 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. And to him, I say, "You're welcome, even though TPP is really the first MGS game I've been able to play."
@helpimahugedisaster5728 Жыл бұрын
It made me realized that Skull Face waited for 9 years just to deliver his speech to the wrong Snake
@Conmon115 Жыл бұрын
2:59 “Now do you remember? Who you are? What you were meant to do? I cheated death thanks to you. And thanks to you I’ve left my mark. You have too. You’ve written you own history. You’re your own man. I’m Big Boss. And you are too. No. He’s the two of us together. Where we are today, we built it. This story, this legend, it’s ours. We can change the world and with it the future. I am you and you are me. Carry that with you wherever you go. Thank you my friend. From here on out, you’re Big Boss.”
@amarson232211 ай бұрын
hooly i got goosebumps
@Kyle-Marxluxia7 ай бұрын
Yeah we all watched it too dude lol
@hamsteronii15718 жыл бұрын
i think my brain just shat itself.
@xuze59168 жыл бұрын
fuck KONAMI
@hamsteronii15718 жыл бұрын
***** i just wish it could have been explained a little better
@hamsteronii15718 жыл бұрын
***** i know, I just don't get how they managed to give him Bosses memories and his exact face.
@hamsteronii15718 жыл бұрын
***** But why, i mean, i get that it was partly to protect big boss, but i still don't get why they wanted to make the double think that he is boss, when eventually he finds out that he isn't the real big boss. Also how the fuck is the double as good a soldier as big boss is, since big boss is the "perfect soldier". Is that from the brainwashing? Wasn't the whole point in "Les Infant Teribles" (probably spelled that wrong) to recreate multiple versions of Snake just because his skills were unique to him?
@hamsteronii15718 жыл бұрын
okay, thanks for refreshing my memory, im a bit rusty on my Metal Gear lore, so the point in creating the phantom was not only to protect boss and give him time to set things up, but also to root out Skull Face and kill him?
@Jomnomify8 жыл бұрын
The more and more I watch this ending, the more I realise this might very well be the greatest story in a video-game I've ever seen. It left me hollow for a while sure... but once you know the truth you have to accept it. Big Boss was nothing more than a legend anymore. Even Naked Snake couldn't carry that title without burden. And sometimes the legacy is more important than the person. Here's to you Kojima you genius.
@ultimatehistoryofvideogame4160 Жыл бұрын
it is
@theblackestofshadows7903 Жыл бұрын
Rest in piece venom snake you were a fucking badass
@SteelBallRun18907 жыл бұрын
A lot of people have said "oh this game was a letdown because ur a clone and I thought u were ognna be shown about how Big Boss was Darth Sidious evil! Boo!" How is this not clear yet.? This ending is not just Kojima telling us we are Big Boss, the ending is more than that. By the end of Peacewalker he was already a monster. He was a wanted man that was ready to fight the world for fucksake. He had an army, a nuclear vehicle and everything. In the end of Peacewalker he realizes that The Boss gave her life for peace, he felt betrayed because she abandoned her "soldier pride". He realizes that the soldier in him can only live through battles and war. As a person, Venom is discarded of everything he ever had. He's now used as a tool, a decoy, a target for the world while the real one hides to build his master plan, pretty selfish don't you think? Remember another soldier who got used for means to ends? Yep, they go by the title of THE BOSS. Venom in this case turns into The Boss, while Big Boss becomes the equivalent of what killed her. Using soldiers as tools to carry on master plans? What did Big Boss do after waking up in a coma? Did he even care that Mother Base fell? Most of the crew died? Paz and Chico are dead? Miller is broken? Venom saved his life and lost 9 years, a limb and an eye? No, instead he quickly discards them, uses them and just sets off to plan new things. If that wasn't villainous I don't know what is.
@MetalGearChris17 жыл бұрын
yessss! that thing about MEN BECOMING DEMONS... they were already demons... using peoples lives like tools for other plans! MGSV gives more impact in the final moment between big boss and solid when the first tell the other that YOU ARE NO MORE A TOOL FOR ANYONE, FORGET ABOUT US, LIVE YOUR LIFE... and THE WORLD WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT SNAKES..... :'(
@Pan_Z7 жыл бұрын
God damn. You put more thought into the ending than Kojima did.
@Pan_Z7 жыл бұрын
***** Oh my God.... There's about 2,000 different excuses to how TPP's story is secretly brilliant, and about 3 of them have some degree of merit. Your reason is not on of them
@Pan_Z7 жыл бұрын
***** Okay. DO you want me to link you a few video that rip the story of TPP apart? Some even compliment some aspects. We know what Koima's intentions are. He failed miserably to convey those themes with his one note characters, pre-destined actions from characters, and lack of a cohesive narrative.
@calumknight91787 жыл бұрын
He is right about the real big boss being a monster though, watch the vid again when he flips the tape over look whats written on it "operation intrude" (Metal Gear on msx solid snakes first mission is called "operation intrude", the bitcorder is plugged into an MSX console just to ram home the point). Essentially the only message that he could have got from the real big boss was "time to die" essentially (Venoms death would make everyone believe Big Boss was dead). At the point snake is going to confront Venom nobody knows Big Boss is calling the shots since he is your CO throughout the game on the radio (Roy Campbell takes over in Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake) and you can't reach him at all at this point (he's done a runner to hide the fact there were 2 big boss's). At this point the real Big Boss had become just like the politicians who had sent The Boss to die as a scapegoat to hide their involvement and Venom is The Boss substitute.
@Chris_Burdick4 ай бұрын
"There's only room for one Boss. And one Snake." ~ The Boss Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
@anthonyagudelo94218 жыл бұрын
Man beating this game made me feel... ...used. This game wasn't Big Boss' descent into evil this game was a showcase for how evil he has become. Betraying and stripping the identity of a soldier who pledged his loyalty to him shows how similar Big Boss is to those governments who use their soldiers as pawns. Venom Snake lost everything in this game; he lost his face, his identity, his love and perhaps saddest of all his voice. Big Boss is an asshole a man who would sell the world just for his petty revenge. Goddamn this was definitely a Hideo Kojima Game.
@TheSolarKhan8 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Agudelo My thoughts exactly. I loved it.
@dangermanv61334 жыл бұрын
You do realize venom sanke is you? You are big boss, not just the true big boss as well. It's been 4 years, toh better realize it by now
@giovanisatiro304 жыл бұрын
Well, he is "The Man Who Sold The World".
@carlosoliveira59304 жыл бұрын
don’t be stupid man, i don’t understand how so many people don’t understand the real purpose of this ending and the franchise, Big Boss didn’t use anyone Venom wasn’t a tool used by Big Boss both were fighting for the same cause, overthrowing Cipher and freeing the world from your domain, Solid Snake was not a good guy, he was just a tool from Cipher, if you think Big Boss is really the village then you need to pay more attention to the game's plot, play MG1, MG2 and MGS2 and you will understand
@carlosoliveira59304 жыл бұрын
@beep boop Beep dude how does the game show Big Boss becoming a villain if the game is not even played by him? tell me what makes you think he's a villain? Kojima said that in an interview precisely to hide the plot that was actually Venom and not Naked Snake, there are still people who believe that Big Boss is a villain in 2020, lmao
@ohyoo1208 Жыл бұрын
Venom Snake should've won the fight with Solid Snake, since he's the ONLY player character in the MGS series that can move while aiming a damn gun, alongside MGR:R Raiden, and Old Snake, but that doesn't count since he's a fossil by then.
@DeadPixel1105 Жыл бұрын
The music at the end of this scene, where he looks into the mirror, punches it, and walks off into the darkness, is phenomenal. Reminds me of music from the band Godspeed You Black Emperor.
@johnroxas1238 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed how majority of people don't get the message of the ending. This just proves that some of the fans haven't played the two original Metal Gear's . That's why they are sooo upset.
@Suave24598 жыл бұрын
You just have to bite the bullet and accept the fact that you don't play Big Boss. But there are greater messages that people don't look at becuz they are pissed. Yes, it sucks you aren't the real big boss but suck it up
@idid69ok8 жыл бұрын
we do get the message, that doesn't make it a good one.
@theclawyaww37408 жыл бұрын
***** me?
@TheCoriolanusSnowden8 жыл бұрын
you are such a fucking noob. you think you know the story SO Well yet you're probably reading the threads like we all are trying to make sense of this Fecal matter
@idid69ok8 жыл бұрын
+Jeremie Boicovich your comment wasn't constructive criticism, you were just bashing
@envirio78672 жыл бұрын
3:24 a lot of people seem to forget this line when disregarding Venom as Big Boss
@GoomDuy28 Жыл бұрын
When you realize MGS V is the end of everything (Last MGS) and the beginning of everything (The plot leads to Metal Gear )
@charlesbutler7598 Жыл бұрын
And in the end it all goes back to Zero....
@gabrielcornejo2384 жыл бұрын
1:33 " In my restless dreams I can see that Town Silent Hill"
@Tryhardblackguy8 жыл бұрын
The tape that Venom puts in the player after Naked Snakes speech says "Operation Intrude N312" which is the operation where Solid Snake infiltrate Outer Heaven to save Gray Fox and kills Big Boss but It's actually Venom that Solid kills.
@michaelkeaton53943 ай бұрын
Probably my favourite cut scene in video game history
@BigTArmada Жыл бұрын
Jesus.. 6 years and that music still hits hard, what a great scene
@A7XKoRnRocks1 Жыл бұрын
I swear, I was in tears, came here to watch this again after all this time.
@lukeskywalker823 жыл бұрын
During this ending, while Venom looks at himself in the mirror some gunshots are heard. I was confused as to what was happening until I saw it. "Operation Intrude N313" tape. That's freaking Solid Snake that's coming for him. Holy crap. And the moment gets even more awesome if your base is full of those S rank soldiers. Cause Solid fuc*king Snake is about to freaking slaughter ALL OF THEM. Makes me wish for Metal Gear 1 and 2 but in 3D.
@TungstenViper8 жыл бұрын
say what you want about the story and content but this scene alone for me makes the whole game and depictes the OG metal gear on a brand new light. Phantom is a tragic and heroic character, even more than Big Boss. He sacrificed his own life for Diamond Dogs and big boss in order for him to establish his vision. people might not see it, but in the end we recognise how evil and twisted Big Boss became to pursue his morals and beliefs. He was a piece of shit for letting the medic to be used like that, unfortunately he was so up Big Boss' ass to realize it. Poor Venom Snake, The real and only hero of the metal gear saga
@mysteriousknight80508 жыл бұрын
Venom is more hero than Solid Snake & Big Boss tbh. Solid Snake is fighting in the wrong side. he is just following orders. in my opinion Venom Snake is the only hero in MGSV
@GutsTheBeast8 жыл бұрын
+Mr.Mugen93 Venom IS Big Boss . For all intents and purposes he reacts exactly like how real Big Boss would react in those situations . Listen to the truth tapes again as Ocelot confirms that he simply isn't a body double and that "medic" died back in Ground Zeroes. Venom is Big Boss's memetic clone meaning that he has the same knowledge and experience as the real one . Remember how Les Enfacts terribles was the cause of Big Boss leaving Zero and starting a war with him? Yet in this game Big Boss embraces that same concept and turns one of his best men into himself . And this can be compared to what the government did to Boss in MGS 3 . So Big Boss essentially ends up becoming like the thing that he hated back in MGS3 . This game gives closure to Big boss's character but most people seems to have completely missed it .
@garrycotton70948 жыл бұрын
+Mr.Mugen93 I agree but the issue is we don't really see this change in Big Boss on screen. The Big Boss of MGS:PW would never have allowed this.
@TungstenViper8 жыл бұрын
Kent Wong yes of course! i was talking storyline-wise
@rubenruben-ruben60398 жыл бұрын
+Kent Wong i love how people act like this was so deep. this didnt go over anyones head. it was just dumb and a cop out. the game was advertised as big boss' downfall. every trailer was deceptively made to look like this is what was happening. and honestly, some of the fan theories that came out of these ideas, were better then the story in the actual game. inb4 "lolol kojima is troll though. remember mgs2 raiden" yea, except the only thing we didnt get was to play as the character we thought we'd be playing as. the whole story didnt say "im going to point a" only to go directly to point B the whole time. also, raiden may have been suppose to represent us in a basic form but he was a character of his own right who had character development and was relevant in later games. not to mention that we realize we're playing as him 5 minutes after he's introduced. in this game we play hours and hours thinking we're big boss and that what we're doing is relevant to his story, then it turns out we're playing as some nobody.
@azraelknightquest5754 Жыл бұрын
I remember a few fans whining and complaining "So sad...Venom Snake didn't CHOOSE this, it was FORCED on him, he never WANTED IT!!!! WAAAAHHH!!!" but that is kind of proof a lot of them don't pay attention to the game. For one, Venom Snake left his WHOLE LIFE to go follow Big Boss (Naked Snake) and was one of his most skilled and trusted soldiers. He admired and loved Big Boss. They also forget that once he remembers, before he breaks the mirror (which you can interpret 100 different ways), this right here: 3:39 Venom Snake nods approvingly. He BELIEVES in Big Boss' goal and his plan. He supports this. 3: 53 Venom Snake smiles. It's an HONOR to him to carry the title of Big Boss. It's beyond a promotion. 4:00 Venom Snake often looks down or straight forward but never with his head up high and proud. But now he does. He believes in himself. It's a case of "If Big Boss believes in me...then I believe in me". He has much more confidence and pride now. Y'all will never convince me that Venom Snake didn't take this approvingly, admire the cleverness of how it was done, consider it an honor and a boost to his confidence that he was selected to be Naked Snake's equal. He became his partner. He was trusted with EVERYTHING. The name, the legacy, the soldiers...everything. It didn't turn out well but Venom Snake was no simple "victim". He was a victor, in his own way.
@RomanEngine Жыл бұрын
5:07 - Venom's reaction when Solid Snake brings Rocket Launcher to CQC fight
@irefusei97167 жыл бұрын
HOW FUCKING DARE THEY TURN THE METAL GEAR SERIES INTO A SURVIVAL. I FEEL THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE DOING THAT IS TO RUB IT INTO KOJIMA THE BASTARDS
@Jack-bt5zd7 жыл бұрын
"we're out of money" says konami
@combathoney12 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion - Kiefer is great in this scene and was always good as Big Boss / Venom when he was given more than a few words to work with.
@dedark0il13110 ай бұрын
Kiefer is awesome
@amedeguerrier8 жыл бұрын
There's one last thing to do : remake of MG 1 and 2.
@KingOmega1238 жыл бұрын
That's not happening anytime soon
@DrSabot-A5 жыл бұрын
*makes Survive*
@codamnote30515 жыл бұрын
*Makes Death Stranding*
@Gadget-Walkmen3 жыл бұрын
Noah Leopold unless if Sony buys the rights to metal gear from Konami!
@viscerable3 жыл бұрын
No thanks I don't want to kill Ahab :(
@robinpimpin1904 ай бұрын
That shot of the DD logo suddenly being Outer Heaven was so powerful. Him being in Outer Heaven suddenly explains all the ruckus in the background: Solid Snake is completing his mission.
@VelvetMagician7 жыл бұрын
Im such a living legend
@rowanbetts55847 жыл бұрын
I am you and you are me
@VelvetMagician7 жыл бұрын
+Rowan Betts carry that wherever you go
@lancecryor7 жыл бұрын
From here on out.. You're Big Boss.
@rowanbetts55847 жыл бұрын
Where we are today? We built it. This story, this legend, it's ours.
@VelvetMagician7 жыл бұрын
And with it, we can change the future
@rememberblackmesa Жыл бұрын
Man I fucking loved Venom Snake, he deserved better than what he got. But tbh most of Big Boss's legend can be attributed to V, that ending as he walks out into the darkness to face Solid Snake is fucking beautifully badass and tragic at the same time.
@dsolid6 жыл бұрын
In essence when he says - "from here on out... YOU'RE Big Boss - means all of us as gamers who played this game. Very symbolic. Kojima made this for the fans. Cheers!
@Killzone1103 ай бұрын
You're all diamonds
@wes97773 ай бұрын
and we always will be, my brother
@Garland8462 жыл бұрын
5:12 i just realised the way the mirror breaks, it makes his eyepatch look like a V metal gear solid V? V has come to? Venom snake?
@venxz39382 жыл бұрын
Even his hair has gray spots on this scene ( 3:32 ) Some time has gone by, plus the Intrude N313 tape almost at the end, he goes back to the mirror and the horn got higher (meaning at that point he fully became a demon). Remember the "previous operations" files in MGS1 where the text says soldiers describe Big Boss as both a hero and a lunatic. So when you see that horn getting bigger, even more time has gone by, the same scenes portrays 2 different years. When he leaves the room, either N313 is about to start (I support this idea more because he had just set the tape in the recorder and in Mother Base they have a habit of recording every radio conversation), or Venom is about to go face to face with Solid Snake. Also, on a side note, Mother Base is in the middle of the ocean, and the first ever MG game (MSX) starts with Snake swimming and climbing a fence to complete infiltration, so I can only imagine the location of the first game is Mother Base itself, they just changed the name from Diamond Dogs to Outer Heaven so no one thought BB, now in command of Foxhound, was managing it also
@KabeyasSorryExcuseOfaYouTubeCh2 жыл бұрын
Another cool detail is after Venom punches the mirror for a split second (5:18)the Diamond Dogs logo is replaced with the Outer Heaven logo.
@venxz39382 жыл бұрын
@@KabeyasSorryExcuseOfaKZbinCh Yeah, I saw in a previous comment and then I noticed :D
@Riviscira Жыл бұрын
Homie is 63 there lmao
@masterxeon10018 жыл бұрын
maaan. I keep watching this video because theres so much to see. That ending is both epic and bittersweet. Venom snake is the one true hero in MGS. I don't care that he wasn't BB. Because we made him BB. I know theres supposed to be more but its soo epic how he walked into the fog in the end. So symbolic. I'll love this and the soldier funeral scene forever. Best game ever. Worst execution ever. Best character ever. Worst locations ever. Best development ever. Worst boss ever. Greatest mechs ever. Best love interest ever. I'd take Quiet over Emma and Meryll anyday.
@DanielMonteiro878 жыл бұрын
+masterxeon1001 YOU are venom snake. That's the message, it was the gamer all the time, not a character.
@TheMMObro8 жыл бұрын
but he kinda IS bb bc of the hypnotherapy
@adamskaocelot83828 жыл бұрын
Bro there are no heroes in Metal Gear
@sebgodwin76778 жыл бұрын
Emma?
@tdizz888 жыл бұрын
+Charles Grant Johnny?
@samuelsemblante43082 жыл бұрын
This game's story was complicated for others, to me it was underrated.
@frikicomputerwizard22372 жыл бұрын
YOU AS A CHILD PLAYING MGS ON NES TO DEFEAT THE " BAD GUYS", ONLY YEARS LATER AS AN ADULT TO LEARN YOU ARE THOSE "BAD GUYS "- "MINDBLOW"
@namovit65678 жыл бұрын
4:39 that is the same sound that the mysterious tape had in ground zeroes
@gianlucag69762 жыл бұрын
I really like this ending, probably the best ending in a videogame and the best ending for MGS. The true meaning is people tried to create the perfect soldier after Big Boss. First with the genetic (enfantes terrible), with nanomachines (next generation soldiers) , with the robotics (ninja/Raiden), and in the end with the AI. But only few (the boss, big boss) understood the only way to create the perfect soldier is give him the right motivation, the right values and goals and a right support. The Boss did this to Big Boss, Big Boss did it with Venom Snake, people (gamers) did it with Solid Snake. So everyone can be a legend with this values, that's why Venom avatar start being just one of us.
@NikoChristianWallenberg5 жыл бұрын
So many people seem to be miss the time lapse: when he flips the cassette it moves forward by 11 years to 1995 - it's actually another cassette (it was just made to look like he simply flipped it) - and when he smashes the mirror you can see that the Diamond Dogs symbol is gone, having been replaced by the Outer Heaven logo.
@EinsteinIbraheem5 жыл бұрын
Man I wanted to see, I wanted to have a fight with solid snake...I wanted to use the battle gear and sahelanthropus....The content I've lost...The endings I've lost....wont stop hurting...
@eugenlovin67884 жыл бұрын
The second one is name "operation Intrude N313" on 4:28
@Boss.X5 Жыл бұрын
@@EinsteinIbraheem me too, solid snake sucks
@tescolemonbleach23678 жыл бұрын
Roses are red Violets are blue I'm Big Boss and so are you
@sifteali61953 жыл бұрын
The entire franchise summed up
@Rich_8288 жыл бұрын
You know...I went through stages of denial when I beat this game. And the more I learned how to connect this game to MG1, Mg2, MGS1-4 I started to understand and accept. I never played MGS before this game, but I binged the Kefka production movies and looked some stuff up on the wiki. The more you understand the MG universe the more this ending makes sense, obviously and how needed this ending was. Also, it ain't a Kojima game if it doesn't have a fucked up plot twist. The End. Does this scene take place in MG1's Outer Heaven, I only Vaguely know about the plot in MG1, barely mg2
@Remix23667 ай бұрын
The later half of the scene takes place during the ending of Metal Gear (msx2) Big Boss sent venom the download of mg and venom read to description so he could understand the context of the situation
@CsubAzUrmedve3 жыл бұрын
And then the character you played as and sunk many hours with in the game gets killed in an MSX2 game.
@danhair2 жыл бұрын
I love how Venom Snake at the end busts the mirror and for a brief second you can see his face full of blood, just plain bloody and then clean. The difference is that the clean part is only visible where it should not be. Maybe Snake doesn’t want to see himself as the extremist military terrorist that he sometimes is and instead sees himself a the hero of his story. The bloody parts of him is his mind telling him that he has blood on his hands while his conscious mind denies it to the end.
@Memedude_L1 Жыл бұрын
Also another thing is that he breaks the mirror cuz he knows big boss sent solid snake to kill him so he breaks the mirror out of anger knowing he is wearing the face of the man who betrayed him
@Yugee11 ай бұрын
@@Memedude_L1when was it stated that BB betrayed Venom?
@Memedude_L111 ай бұрын
@@Yugee Because BB sent solid snake to finish venom off
@Yugee11 ай бұрын
@@Memedude_L1 never was this stated. Venom even stated that he couldnt predict Solid making it this far and that the plan was to make him send false information. Why would he lie about this if Big Boss betrayed him. Stop acting like your headcanons are true
@Memedude_L111 ай бұрын
@@Yugee never said it was a headcanon guess i made a mistake lmfao
@Roler428 жыл бұрын
I love this ending, this is Metal Gear Solid 2 all over again, except this is the anthithesis... An "evil" version of MGS2's ending, while Raiden rejected the player and became his own person, the Medic turns his back on whoever he used to be and embraces the idea of "being" Big Boss much like all the players who idolized him and romanticized him as the "true protagonist" after they played MGS3
@Vipers_Pit4 жыл бұрын
I really love this game. One of my favor. And that ending is really showing how genius Kojima was.
@devilmostdie3 жыл бұрын
and still is!
@gamerdudeorurielsoto2825 Жыл бұрын
I like how in the background there is gunshots and explosions sounds why because it’s solid snake in the base attacking them when venom snake smashes the mirror the bottom left logo changes to diamond dogs to outer heaven logo knowing venom snake is doom and is prepared to defend himself the moment when big boss said now do you remember then when venom snake puts the cassette in the time changes to outer heaven year and timeline when the msx console showed I got excited and knew mgs 1 would happend the msx version plus big boss wanted solid snake to fail the mission and die cause big boss didn't want solid snake and liquid snake without his permission zero went in the plan to make extra copies of big boss miller trusted solid snake and trained him but as years went by ocelot killed him at the end credits he did mention one person had to be killed or get killed
@jimnorris32762 жыл бұрын
Doublethink accepting two conflicting truths knowing they both lead nowhere. Shadows hold one mirrors the other everyone has a phantom.
@ethanbulger92033 жыл бұрын
5:26 Don’t know why but I like the sound of the footsteps
@merasmussen82 Жыл бұрын
Mith MGSV Kojima has created a Metatheatre: one in which the conventional separation between actors and audeince was abolished. In which the conventional scenic geography , the notions of proscenium , stage, auditorium, were completely discarded, In which continuity of performance, either in time or place, was ignored. And in which the action, the narrative was fluid, with only a point of departure and a fixed point of conclusion. Between those points the participants invent their own drama. At first I was disappointed to learn that I hadn't been playing as Big Boss - but then I understood Kojima's true intention and as a result feel closer now to the "Big Boss" of MGSV and not detached.
@Cakemarvelous Жыл бұрын
Kojimbo
@cwhorley1989 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone gets it.
@sagolius2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even knew a character like venom snake existed until I played MGSV, now he is on my top 3 favorite characters of the entire series
@user-pf9qd7bv1m3 ай бұрын
when i was a teenager, i listen this to remeber what are every have a puporse and 10 yars after, i m proud to understand this message !
@AngiesResonance7 жыл бұрын
Say what you want, but this ending is perfect. Love it
@AlphaI2507 жыл бұрын
+shadow of blood bloody = DEMON Snake and he punch cause he doesnt want to be like this
@AlphaI2507 жыл бұрын
+Alphal250 he fight hes own demon
@d11asian6 жыл бұрын
not really its very abrupt and anti climactic
@virgilgc6 жыл бұрын
play metal gear 1 for the rest of the climax you dongle
@Britishwolf892 жыл бұрын
@Týr In the game, if you kill a lot of people you become permanently covered in blood and the shrapnel in your head becomes larger. It's implying that Venom went full Demon Snake and did a lot of horrible shit. Him punching the mirror is open to interpretation i guess, but in my opinion it's the realisation of what he has become and how far he has strayed from who he was.
@ElFrijolFantasma3 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for him since he’s getting used and no one will remember what he did but instead think that big boss did that
@pizzaparty97803 жыл бұрын
The best part about venom snake is that every major character in Mgs always had some kind of path and pre-destiny bullshit and somehow never ended up making a big mark. This guy had his memory and his whole life stolen. He had to take some of the hardest decisions in MGS history. His sense of self was removed. Yet he is the most human and most badass characters in the game. If anyone ever asks for the proof of soul in fiction, its this guy. This guy is like the counter argument to ship of theseus question.
@chinesemassproduction4 ай бұрын
Actually an interesting comment here. Not bad.
@SmellyVonBeli2 жыл бұрын
The last minute tease with “operation n313” being obscured somehow is better to me than if they flat out showed the full title. The mirror punch is the perfect capstone, gets me every time!
@Averagebasementman2 ай бұрын
4:30 operation intrude n313 the mission solid snake was given by big boss all the way back in the first metal gear game on the msx coming full circle to where it all began. This scene really is just Kojima saying goodbye to this franchise and its fans while also giving a middle finger to the douchebag executives that treated him and the rest of his team like slaves.
@mydreamer3868 Жыл бұрын
“So you’ve chosen to live that way. I wonder… Can you really call that living?”
@rossoneri10858 жыл бұрын
.its perfect the more you think about it the more brilliant it becomes. ultimately what is Big boss , big boss is a legend that was made not born the title big boss is iconic its legendary its a idea , its a symbol a rallying cry to all who live on the battlefield . but as the series has shown us its not genes that make the man, venom may not be JACK but he is BIG BOSS the nation building legend of the battlefield and no one is more fitting to full that role than ME ,,YOU....and every other fan out there , we have been with big boss since the very beginning , we are his most trusted we are venom . ..the title of big boss was handed to venom and also to the player ...... Venom And Naked snake may ultimately not be the same person but Venom is BIG BOSS !!!! .....why does the medic have all big bosses memories some will ask ?? well cos we have those memories us THE PLAYER share all have been though what big boss has been though we are the only person capable of becoming his phantom .....its kojima at his finest its a shame it will be lost on a lot of fans ...
@JoeyTea18 жыл бұрын
+ROSSONERI 108 But it screws up the rest of the story. Liquid never met the real BB. Zero and BB never had a big war or anything. BB was not evil. Venom wasn't even evil. We were told we would see BB become a villain and neither him nor Venom become evil. BB has less on sceen time in this game than in MGS4. If this technology is available, then why have LET? Why make clones when you could just make a body double. The ending only fixes one plothole in the series and makes 10 more in the process. And Nobody really cared how BB survived in MG1. it was an 8-bit game. Anything happened in them. I get what Kojima was going for. We are all Big Boss. But in the process, he fucked up the other games. It degrades Big Boss as a character knowing half of his achievements were actually completed by a body double. And the body double isn't even genetically related to BB. And by making Venom do BB's bidding, he makes BB look like a little pussy who sits back and lets others do the work for him. What is the metaphor for the "demon horn" and "tail"? They represent fucking nothing because BB did nothing wrong. This ending is fine the first time you see it but after it sinks in, you realize that it fucking sucks.
@JoeyTea18 жыл бұрын
ROSSONERI 108 But this doesn't make BB look evil. It makes him look like a pussy. The horn and tail represent nothing because Neither Venom or BB are evil.
@rossoneri10858 жыл бұрын
there no such thing as evil its all about prospective and shades of however it does make him look very bad....big boss uses the man who saved his life to build his legacy while he builds a military nation .....he is so tied up in his twisted vision of revenge and misrepresentation of the bosses will he will lie, manipulate who ever he needs to ....it doesnt make him look like a bitch it makes him look like a true villain ...true villains operate in the background using others to do there will ...thats what we learn here ...big boss has fallen deeper than we thought he could ....... naked snake - a soldier fooled into assassinating his own mentor , a man who gets others to do his dirty work , a liar whos very legend is built by those around him and shouded in exaggeration !!....a monster who uses everyone at any cost to furful his own twisted misrepresentation of his mentors will..........VENOM SNAKE a man Who remained loyal and un breakable despite having his identity stolen from him ... . A warrior who acts with nobility and selflessness . A solider who's skill on the battlefield became the reality of the myth .A snake unlike any other the real NATION BUILDING HERO AND LEGEND OF THE BATTLEFIELD . the real BIG BOSS!!! . .
@MM-nj6nn8 жыл бұрын
+SuperLemonBomb Lemon ignore this idiot, this ending sucked. I remember reading an interview whereit quoted kojima saying "this game will show big boss becoming an evil to the world" Not even venom turned evil in this game.
@rossoneri10858 жыл бұрын
First of all do not call me a fucking idiot Marc i'm only explaining how the history of the characters and how the ending affects the lore the franchise. I am not defending the games story or the games ending the phantom pain was the worst metal gear solid game in that regard. Venom isnit supposed to turn evil you are keen to call me an idiot but it's you who is missing the point . Before the phantom pain big bosses history in the 80s was always a huge contradiction to him becoming a villain due to his selfless heroic actions in the Mozambique civil war etc
@ethancurtsinger172 Жыл бұрын
This is still basically between the events of Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes (1975) and Metal Gear (1995) with Venom (who was a loyal medic to the Big Boss) being a double to Naked a.k.a. the Big Boss, with Outer Heaven being formed. Then in 1995 one of the two sons of the Big Boss (which is Solid) killed Venom, instead of the actual Big Boss.
@meolnier10812 жыл бұрын
venom snake the most based character
@nathanthompson6720 Жыл бұрын
Venom snake is probably the snake we saw the least of in the metal gear series cuase he's only in this game and metal gear the original on msx
@RemarhBsoul Жыл бұрын
Kojima was speaking to all mgs fans throughout the years and saluting them on writing history together.
@Pedro-xz6wt5 ай бұрын
i can't see this scene really praising the idea of "big boss" and the player's participation in creating it when snake shows up in demon mode at the end, punching his own reflection. all of big boss' karma leaked into venom, and he's worse off because of it.
@RumandCocaine2 жыл бұрын
and after that scene he went to battle against solid