MHI Bolt-On Turbo Upgrade | 10th Gen Civic 1.5T

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[@honeynutcheerio3886]

Put it in the shop si and make a base tune and sell as bundle, mhi turbo with a base map

[@cheenoulee7455]

I’d buy it

[@jayman4268]

@@cheenoulee7455 me too!

[@OGAwsomSauce]

The issue with many of the turbo rebuilds you get from say 27won or pure turbo, they are still using the stock housings. The td025 is only able to handle a maximum of 19 psi. I’ve pushed mine to 25 psi and you can hear the compressor surge during boost. This is why many of 27wons turbos were cracking on the turbine housing. People are pushing 29 psi on a turbo designed for 19. The td03 turbo is intended to boost 29 psi without issue. I’m getting mine this week. Hit my channel in a couple weeks.

[@wickedsatan1]

So whats the word?

[@OGAwsomSauce]

Umar still waiting on mhi. They’ve had the turbo for a week and are supposed to get back to full race about my money. I’ve pushed forward with my claim through PayPal. They seem to thin it’s a game to try and stall people out of there money but I don’t roll with bs.

[@wickedsatan1]

@@OGAwsomSauce sad to hear such awful service

[@OGAwsomSauce]

Update, the turbo was on the car for 8 days and then blew up. I’m lucky to still have a good engine. On day 7 I went to the dealership for an oil change, the next morning the turbo failed. Mhi wants owners to run an engine oil too heavy for the engine if you’re going to run the td03 turbo. My opinion and review of the turbo. It’s a negative for me. I’ll spending my money on the W2 turbo when it comes out

[@wickedsatan1]

@@OGAwsomSauce i read something on civicxforum. Apparently MHI wants to run 0w-40 but never mentioned that clearly.

[@myxalplyx]

Very interesting option! I like what I am hearing. Would love to see a dyno plot. The larger turbos (Ex: 27WON, PRL) lose a lot of lowend torque vs the stock turbo. Non-Si's can do with an Si turbo upgrade (It works well). If this is a better option than an SI, whereas it loses no lowend torque and still have gains on the topend, it would be a great alternative to the 27Won.

[@takohma1056]

Wow this is pretty cool. Going to have to check this out. I have a 2020 sport manual.

[@harryl8234]

That upgrade should have been a stock turbo for the Civic to begin with since it was made from the same company. Where can this upgrade be purchased from?

[@EdgeAutosport]

They'd probably sell a lot more Civics too lol

[@OGAwsomSauce]

It was supposed to be but Honda changed it. That’s why when you see that dsport video testing the limits; they thought the car had the td03 turbo that Honda claimed it was suppose to come with. The difference between the 025 and 03 are way different.

[@artblackwood7936]

Looks like you are going to have to plug it in on your Si and put it on the dyno. Good job on all your content.

[@CastIronEric]

Yes, I agree. I want to see if there's a measurable HP increase. If not, PRL is the way to go.

[@EdgeAutosport]

We'll be putting it on and showing what it does, as soon as we have a clutch that actually works lol. And thanks for the kind words!

[@EdgeAutosport]

@@CastIronEric There will be a measurable difference, for sure. But the PRL kit is just different altogether, I'm not sure if I'd compare the 2.

[@CastIronEric]

Edge Autosport That's true. A huge cost difference, but I'm excited to see the HP and TQ gains ofmthis Mitsubishi.

[@honeynutcheerio3886]

@@EdgeAutosport It would be nice to make 270+ wheel on 93 without sacrificing much of the low end. Great daily driver.

[@AdrianAye]

Awesome to know i can upgrade

[@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr]

Honestly for the price of that turbo I rather get my stock one ported and it will do the exact same thing but a hell of alot cheaper I don't know what these companies are thinking when they price these things 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@NEO_RKX]

I agree it’s ridiculous.

[@allthingsaudio4610]

For that price Id rather buy a ball bearing garrett or precision turbo. Price not worth such little increased performance.

[@blakestark2528]

It’s a lot but it’s like a factory upgrade

[@NicolasMourra]

Loving the content! So happy I found you guys after I got my 2020 SI

[@EdgeAutosport]

Thanks! Glad you like it! We still need to update the site to show 2020 model year but many of the parts fit just fine.

[@NicolasMourra]

Edge Autosport that would be awesome

[@jayc5768]

Fun Fact: Mitsubishi used to make TV’s as well..

[@d0mochi]

And rice cookers, electric fans etc. it’s common in Asia. I lived in the Philippines and we had a lot of Mitsubishi electronics

[@LynnDisclose]

How much does it cost? And where do you get if from????

[@ericesteves3452]

27won turbo is cheaper , bigger and makes more power . The 27won has been bored out with 61 % bigger housing . This MHI turbo won’t compete with it especially on top end

[@driveri1435]

Ehh. I'm probably one of the very few with the MHI turbo. Thinking of switching to 27won. I'm running MHI drop in turbo w/ PRL downpipe & +9 Mitsu turbo basemap. My car from a roll is faster than a piggyback Paddle shift 335i with bolt ons. Top end is very generous too.

[@the_batmobile0.4]

Makes more power how? 27won recommended 26psi no?

[@carlosvillalobos8431]

This turbo is great for people that are not looking to make crazy power but decent power. Perfect for a daily.

[@SchoolIsAConspiracy]

@@driveri1435 what oil are you using with it? It suggests 10w40 but that's super thick

[@driveri1435]

@@SchoolIsAConspiracy I'm using 10w40. Gets the job done. If you use thinner oil it will destroy the turbo.

[@gtgodbear6320]

I want someone to port w/bigger propellers a stock K20 turbo for my 16 K24 AWD CRV. The performance model is a L15b7 turbo AWD. A turbo K24 would be a better choice for a performance model CRV. And the Turbo bolts directly to the head like a new Civic Type R. The head is reversed in this model K24. So piping a turbo kit would be a piece of cake. It's already 195hp so a upgraded K20 turbo might put it at 300hp.

[@RickJamesFPV]

I'm already there man! 😁

[@mathidear]

Don't forget to change the internal such as piston and con rods , if not the rods won't be able to handle and there goes the engine

[@EdgeAutosport]

Ehhh, we'll see ;)

[@mathidear]

The original con rod is very weak unable to take the boost. My civic 1.5t con rod broke . And now I need to built the engine together with this turbo

[@RCXDerp]

@@mathidear Not the same motor as the Si but close

[@Electricianarchery]

The si has stronger rods, when you rebuild get an si engine instead of a base model

[@tr6864]

Hello there, its nice to see this kind of content. I never know that kind of upgrade existed. Does it have the same size ? Where i can get that turbo ?

[@toocool4u688]

I would like to see the differences numbers wise between this one and the 27won turbo replacement

[@beboricky1031]

snocone 780 that’s wat I got and going to tune mine next month

[@EdgeAutosport]

The MHI won't make as much power on equal setups, especially when you have additional fueling or methanol injection

[@toocool4u688]

@@EdgeAutosport thank you for the response

[@a-yates]

Its good as long as you don't have the cvt trans

[@vsmadhu]

Is there a similar upgrade for the 10th gen 2.0 Accord ?

[@Danielviiir]

Here, take my money.

[@EdgeAutosport]

If you say so!

[@vince5363]

Hi, will this work on a 2021 Honda crv 1.5 turbo?

[@luponero8518]

Sigla the super turbocompressore mitsubischi?

[@robertodasso7070]

Do you know of anyone that has put this turbo MHI on a Honda Civic 1.6 VTEC from 1993? Could it work on this VTEC engine as well?

[@brandonr5031]

I'm torn on this platform right now, I have an 18 manual sport hatch. Just received the suit against Honda for Oil Dilution on our 1.5t. Do I start doing mods or just upg to a more ready platform.

[@EdgeAutosport]

If you don't think you're car is experiencing the dilution problem, then mod it! But if you think it's a problem on yours, it might not be a bad idea to get it fixed. I read that Honda's fix involves flashing the car with different cold start tuning so that the engine warms up faster. Idk how much that'll change the problem but if it's available to you to fix, I'd do it before modding. Then just keep an eye on it as time goes on.

[@chickennugs3998]

Hello, I tried the link but it has expired and I tried looking up on your website but all I can find is the “OEM turbocharger”.

[@jester3556]

Do you know of anyone that has put this or any other mods on a cvt?

[@TherealToppo]

That's kind of cool lol

[@kitcomandos2715]

Awesome!!! which model of turbo? What are the specifications? Upgrade Turbo? Greetings from Brazil

[@EdgeAutosport]

Thanks for the comment! All those questions are answered in the video! The link to the item is in the description too. Thanks!

[@sergiomartindelcampo3614]

Hi team what will be the diferences in performance between this Mitsubishi turbo vs 27 won also the price is slightly high than the 27 won I am not sure if it is because the Mitsubishi is made in Japan.

[@EdgeAutosport]

The 27Won is a bigger turbo so it'll make more power. I don't want to speculate on the 27Won but I know that the MHI turbo is just going to be as quality as it gets from a construction standpoint.

[@Arctice36]

Well the 27won is a MHI turbo just rebuilt

[@thump3r]

whhhhat a oem upgrade??? i wonder if they will be carb legal??

[@user-no9go3ly9e]

Is this the same turbo that kept giving out when you all tried to tune the new unit?

[@EdgeAutosport]

yep, all three of them failed.

[@Tim_281]

Is there a video and or dyno numbers between stock vs that drop in?

[@EdgeAutosport]

We haven't done one yet. We plan to. Not sure when yet though.

[@mrkomonkey]

Not available on website

[@lance1365]

How much more horsepower this will give as compared to stock? Will it trigger any codes?

[@EdgeAutosport]

It's rated around 24 lbs/min of airlfow. MHI says 260 hp is doable. But we're going to throw it on our car and we'll post up the results soon.

[@ronpardilla3297]

@@EdgeAutosport any news when this will happen?

[@TensorWM]

Does this make it easier to tune for people running 91 octane? I only ask since California mostly has 91 and I'd prefer to not go ethanol quite yet

[@EdgeAutosport]

I think I understand your question, like is it easier to tune because it's only a mild upgrade, not a big upgrade? You can absolutely tune with 91 on anything. You'll just be knock limited. But it would still be fine to use this with 91. We're in Denver and we only have 91 too. Although, our 91 is probably better than yours. I know Arizona, Nevada, and Cali all have a lower grade of 91 than everywhere else I believe.

[@TensorWM]

I guess what I'm trying to ask if you're able to tune easier with this upgrade for more power without worrying about knock before having to go higher octane or ethanol instead

[@sheabutter4655]

I'm brand new to Honda & turbo engines. my kid just got a 2020 civic 1.5t. I'm looking for the most bang for the buck on giving her some hp. only looking for bolt ons. what's your thoughts?

[@EdgeAutosport]

Welcome to the turbo club! Step one: Get a tune. This allows you to turn up the power on your car before picking up a wrench and adds HP with the literal push of a button. From there, every time you add a piece of hardware, just tell your tuning device it's been installed and the device will tell your car's computer that it is safe to turn up the HP. We love the Cobb Accessport for its user friendly interface, and build path, but it's not available for the 2020 1.5t yet. Hondata and K-Tuner are other good options. Do some research and shoot Alan an email if you have any more questions -> [e-mail]

[@sheabutter4655]

@EdgeAutosport Thanks for taking the time to respond 🤘 that'll get you a follow. I'll do a Ktune & bolt on a cold air intake. any thoughts after? I don't want to take away reliability.

[@thicok4555]

What would be the max you would say pushing the stock motor to on 93?

[@CastIronEric]

The forums for the 10th gen all suggest around 300-320 whp before you start risking the possibility of bent rods.

[@27WON]

Are you looking for the safe power limit of the block or with a 93 octane fuel limit?

[@darkknight097]

Like one other person stated 300-320 for 93. Any higher on 93 and you risk detonation. Max on an E30-40 blend is 340-360. These numbers are just what you can run SAFELY. You could definitely push more out but you risk reliability which is already decreased at these power levels. Once on ethanol, the real restriction is fuel flow. The upper 300s is definitely possible, but these little 1.5s just can't flow enough fuel. That's why people will use meth and or race fuel in combination with ethanol to get that high

[@CastIronEric]

@@darkknight097 can detonation happen with a stock Civic with KTuner upping the boost?

[@jtoyz6050]

Where can I pick up one of these snd price

[@dankydusty]

Are the actuators the same ? The one I bought doesn’t come with one so I was wondering if I can use the one on the stock turbo ??

[@EdgeAutosport]

Most turbo upgrades have you move over the stock actuator, yes! Some also require a re-calibration as well.

[@RavageEject84]

This work on a 1.5T Accord?

[@alexross5620]

Do they make a replacement for the Accord k20c 2.0. A lot of people are using the type-r turbo do you offer an upgrade

[@EdgeAutosport]

I don't believe MHI makes an upgrade to the Type R turbo at this time.

[@waltercastro2587]

Will this fit my 19 accord ???

[@ryzendragon9206]

So this is a plug and play? no tune required? also fit on EX models?

[@enriquevazquez8009]

Would this fit a 2016 civic EXT 1.5?

[@EdgeAutosport]

Yes

[@jareddburandt9737]

Do you need to change any other parts for this turbo upgrade? Flashtune? Thanks

[@EdgeAutosport]

You will definitely need to retune your car after installing this turbo

[@jareddburandt9737]

@@EdgeAutosport Thanks, other than that nothing else?

[@mubasheer]

Will this work for a CVT 1.5L turbo?

[@EdgeAutosport]

It physically fits, but we're not familiar with how well they can hold the power.

[@mississippirozay5557]

Will it work on the accord??

[@EdgeAutosport]

It should, but we have not confirmed this fitment.

[@felixocasio5933]

Pretty sweet. Question if wanted to add bov can I on stock?

[@CastIronEric]

I've read it can cause a lot of problem without a proper tune right after.

[@felixocasio5933]

Eric C what’s a good tune or tuner device? New to 10th gen

[@HollywoodQuickscopes]

Eric C that’s incorrect man

[@HollywoodQuickscopes]

Yes you can add it ! No you don’t need a tune. In fact you can’t really tune for a bov. Just know putting a bov in your car will cause it to run rich, not rich all the time. Just. For that one second during shifts. Is it going ruin your car no, is it the most healthy thing no. But no mods are really healthy. If you want healthy and reliable stay stock. But in the end man do what makes you happy just no the risk !

[@EdgeAutosport]

Yes

[@patchino9725]

why does the stock turbo not make noise like other turbos do ?

[@EdgeAutosport]

You mean why does it sound different? Different turbos have different aerodynamics and pipes attached to them which varies the noise output.

[@cheppeg5462]

At the price point, I’d rather go with 27won

[@beboricky1031]

I kno the 27won does

[@christophernavarro2468]

What Turbo would you recommend to push 400 horse power or more?

[@27WON]

You'll need to be looking at something way bigger like a GTX2867 or larger.

[@darkknight097]

You'll need fuel upgrades (ethanol, methanol, race fuel) to even get close to 400, even with a big turbo. But ya, PRL big turbo kit (GTX 2867R+) will get you started

[@domenicoponticiello3639]

I have ktuner would I find the tune for it on there?

[@EdgeAutosport]

I want to say that Hondata is the only one with an OTS map for this turbo.

[@christophertaylor4594]

For the price I would rather save up and just get a bigger turbo

[@EdgeAutosport]

Nothing wrong with that either!

[@wil0si10gap7]

where can i get it?

[@EdgeAutosport]

edgeautosport.com/mhi-bolt-on-turbo-upgrade-honda-civic-1-5t-models-2016-2019/

[@Scottstunts]

Is tuning necessary with this turbo upgrade?

[@EdgeAutosport]

Yes.

[@holdat3787]

So what’s the best turbo to go with for the 10th gen Si’s?

[@sugar_milk7522]

Imo, the 27won turbo. It’s the cheapest, easiest to install, it already has a basemap in place, can be used with a stock clutch without issues and it’s good for up to 400 +/- horsepower. For what it’s worth, I’m fbo, 27won turbo running on 93 basemap (for now) and I had more clutch slippage on the TSP stage 1 map with the stock turbo. I also floor it multiple times a day... if you’re crazy enough to build the motor and push for big power, I’d say you’re probably best off with the PRL kit.

[@EdgeAutosport]

There really isn't a "best" turbo for the car. Think of it as the best turbo for you and what you want to do with the car. The only time I'd tell you a turbo isn't good is if it's some inexpensive, cheaply made, low quality turbo. But this turbo along with the PRL kit are very high quality and worth the extra money. Your goals really make your turbo choice for you.

[@midwestmurph]

Looks like the link to the product is broke - out of stock?

[@EdgeAutosport]

Fixed!

[@jonnysandy6873]

Hi...how about tune after install that turbo?

[@EdgeAutosport]

We'll be posting a new video about this turbo this week.

[@jonnysandy6873]

Ok nice...

[@terrellwright1174]

Where can the MHI turbo be purchased?

[@EdgeAutosport]

On our website! Link is in description.

[@BOLTYU]

looks like a crv turbo from what ive heard

[@EdgeAutosport]

This turbo does not come on a factory Honda. The CRV and Si share the same turbo so that's technically an upgrade to a Civic 1.5T non-Si. But this is an upgrade again. It's not a Honda OEM part.

[@wongtaki366]

Is it need to remap the software ?

[@EdgeAutosport]

Yes

[@wongtaki366]

My car is cvt models ,Is it too much torque for cvt models or choose the civic si oem turbo more safe ?

[@danielherrera7618]

What is the cost?

[@EdgeAutosport]

$1799 - You can check it out here, edgeautosport.com/mhi-bolt-on-turbo-upgrade-honda-civic-1-5t-models-2016-2019/

[@billcivicsff6808]

What’s the part number!!

[@EdgeAutosport]

Unfortunately, we do not sell this turbo at this time. Please see follow up video we did later.

[@billcivicsff6808]

@@EdgeAutosport looked into doesnt seem like a good idea I wonder why though this is super interesting to dig into and see why this turbo keeps failing on the L15 does anyone know what engine this td03 comes on?

[@nikkonkde]

Does it need a custom tune?

[@EdgeAutosport]

Hondata has just released an off-the-shelf map for this turbo. Although I'm sure it'll work fine, there are still reasons to custom tune your own car.

[@nikkonkde]

@@EdgeAutosport i do have a question: did you also changed the oil viscosity in the engine for it? Some vendors advertise it with 10w40! which is out of Honda specs for the engine. www.full-race.com/store/honda-acura/10th-gen-civic-type-r-fk8/10th-gen-honda-civic-si-bolt-on-turbo-upgrade/

[@EdgeAutosport]

The 10w-40 recommendation is a new development by MHI. We are still considering what to do about this turbo.

[@1zcc]

Is it fit on Honda Accord 1.5t ?

[@a-yates]

If you have the 1.5t thats a 10th gen it should work its the same motor

[@d0mochi]

No. The accord has a 2 port internal exhaust manifold that flows to a 2 port turbo which what looks to be or possibly a twin scroll design, I’m not sure

[@rjbriscoe860]

Is this turbo actually larger than the factory Si/CRV turbo as they are slightly larger than the non si 10th gen civics came with.

[@EdgeAutosport]

Yes, this is not a factory option turbo, it's slightly bigger again than the Si turbo and it's just a better constructed turbo too. It's not a massive upgrade in terms of power, but it's factory fit and quality so it's a great choice if you want a nice bump in power without going crazy.

[@rjbriscoe860]

Edge Autosport oh that’s awesome! I am personally going for an OEM+ type build with my Si and have been considering the 27won drop in turbo. Do you have an opinion on which of these turbo upgrades might be the better option in terms of longevity and build quality?

[@sugar_milk7522]

RJ Briscoe 27won for sure!

[@issahurst]

will this work on accord 1.5t?

[@27WON]

It will not, covers are different bolt patterns.