Dutch Bucket Hydroponic Tomatoes - Lessons Learned and a New Crop

[@mhpgardener]

I'm seeing a reduction in the size of the fruit in this 3rd Gen crop, so I'll be doing new seedlings for the Fall.

[@paintham9430]

Glad you noticed the effects of heterosis. AKA "hybrid vigor". Three generations is about the limit for most I've found.

[@SamSam-jr5qu]

The six year old child in me understands every instruction you gave. You are a superb teacher. Keep it up

[@budmag10]

Your videos are awesome! I have been watching a lot of vids on hydroponics and aquaponics, and so far yours are the clearest and most instructional that I have seen. It gives me more confidence to start and the Dutch method is exactly what I need for my environment.Thanks for taking the time and energy to produce this.

[@kalnmark6747]

I'm not sure but ,if anyone else wants to discover commercial aquaponics books try Proutklarton Surviving Instruction Plan (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some interesting things about it and my neighbor got amazing success with it.

[@peelmeone]

Bobby, your service to humanity with the videos is absolutely priceless. Everything you post is a blessing to all of us.

[@mhpgardener]

Thanks. I use a water soluble 4-18-38, mixed with Calcium Nitrate and Epsom Salt.

[@truthbetold2611]

Is it weird to miss a KZbinr I've never met in person? I sure miss you Bobby. You started my awakenings as far as growing living food. It's a brand new world with what you've shared with us. Thank you and blessings to your family and in all you do : )

[@tonyparkHHFA]

Couldn’t agree with you more. I was just telling my wife I wish he’d come back with some kind of content. I’d watch him sit and talk about almost anything.

[@charlesharris1771]

You make some of the most instructive videos on youtube man. Thank you.

[@guyosburn8858]

Your Dutch bucket videos are about 10 years old as II view them. I would like to commend you, however, on your excellent presentation and straightforward instructions. I have viewed two of your Dutch bucket videos over the past year and this spring. I will be building my own system. With the information you have laid out I am very confident I’m going to have a great crop of tomatoes. I’ll be doing beef steak tomatoes, as well as Cherokee purple. Thank you once again for your excellent presentation and straightforward instructions. These videos give great confidence to the beginner. God bless !

[@mhpgardener]

I've been very impressed with this system right from the very start. My initial test was successful and I've just kept it going.

[@juanperezsanta3056]

Regards!!! Could you recommend a product to solve the problem of mites and viruses in tomatoes and peppers?

[@MohanSingh-xi2hz]

हिंदी हिंदी में सुनाएं

[@firozosman]

@@MohanSingh-xi2hz lol. Aap galti se yahan aaye, kya? Ya to phir yeh aap ka joke tha? Anyway, mazaa aa gaya hindi mey comment padd kar. 😆😆😆

[@laypyu]

@@firozosman 😂😂😂

[@MsWindyhill]

Hey Bobby, 6 yrs ago when the 1st winter storm was bearing down on me I gathered the tomatos from my 1 cherry-roma plant. I broke the top off and put it in my basket. I cut it up into 5 stems when i got in the house and planted them in red cups. I have taken cuttings every year since and added an early girl 2 years ago. Also I have used the blue Walmart bags instead of the paint strainer. Getting good results. Thanks for your teaching lessons have learned so much from you. Thanks.

[@mhpgardener]

Hey Paul, I was really hesitant myself when I first started. The commercial operations sometimes make it look pretty complicated. But once I got my feet wet, I found out that it was quite a simple process. I really enjoy the hydro setups. Thanks.

[@Skellyrm]

I look for your New videos everyday!!! I can only plant in soil but I look forward to the day I can move beyond the city slicker limit's to plant some serious crops, and build a Greenhouse to grow in other formats. Until that time, my poor little Garden is doing much better thanks to the good Advice. Thank you Bobby, and Lord willing, more videos will come!

[@JohnHenryReaves]

Out of all of the how to videos here on KZbin, I got the most out of yours.

[@goldytazar]

I would like to do it on my porch, thank you!!

[@JohnHenryReaves]

Goldy Tazar I went to Wal-mart today, they have bags of peralite with Miraclegrow in the mix for around $6 a bag, and that is about all other than the plants but they did have aquarium pumps and bubblers for aeration. But you should check Harbor Freight, they also have green house kits and other things.

[@goldytazar]

Thank you John Henry for the information. Stay cool this summer and enjoy it the fruit of your labor.!!

[@Quinnlawl]

they are of higher quality than many of my horticulture professors

[@diosdadosierra3291]

John Henry Reaventar

[@Chass0715]

My hat is off to this guy. I casually purchased a few tomato plants recently and started getting really excited as I began to see some real yield. I stumbled upon this video while looking to find out what suckers are and what I should do with them. After watching these vids, my wife and I are now going to build a nice dutch bucket propagation system. We're not as advanced, so we're going with the Batos at first. That said, if everything works out, we will be moving to this guys strategy.

[@tomdieck4667]

You have educated me and inspired me to become more self sufficient. I was wondering what size pipe you use for the drain? I'm giving hydroponics a try on a small city lot. I beleive the yield vs the space required is the answer to my prayers. Trying lettuce, peppers, tomatoes and cucumbers on hydro systems. Hoping to be able to move to a more private remote location with more land where I can actually put up a green house and go on a bigger scale to help others and be better prepared for myself and my family. God bless you my friend you are an inspiration. Keep the videos coming I learn so much and so have my friends that i have turned on to your site

[@ivettesayshi8423]

I have watched this same video over five times. Actually, the same goes for all the Dutch bucket videos. They’re my favorite. I never get bored of them. Thank you for making such detailed videos. I really appreciate all the work that went into them. PS...I’m really glad to see you’re back. 😄 May God bless you and your family.

[@begingardener275]

mphgardener: DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATED VIDEO ON Dutch Bucket Hydroponic Tomatoes FOR 2020 ?

[@boricua2538]

2022 videos please !!!!

[@MrDjRinzo]

watched your videos and made a whole system around the beginning of this year and it has been a major sucess

[@Fusion008a]

You can go through Lowe's to get products from Grainger, there is a slight markup from Grainger cost, but nowhere near the cost of shipping, and it comes directly to you via mail, look into it.

[@rlau8808]

L8tr

[@stanleyolson3228]

With all the fallout from Fukushima, I am giving up on the soil garden. So far my well water is good and I am excited about growing in a lean-to this summer while building a bigger structure for a green house. You and your videos have given me confidence that I will be able to feed my family and friends something that will not make us all sick.

[@melvinrochelle5014]

Hey man used your information on mixing and grams my two cucumber plants are growing so fast each plants has produce over 10 to 15 cucumber you are the man.

[@asimzia9588]

Melvin Rochelle

[@causanow6946]

What nutrition do I need to use and amount to be mixed in the water for cucumbers

[@thomasackerman3995]

@@causanow6946 he has a link below the description at the top to a video for that

[@b.walker5955]

The internet tomato council decided to serve me this content today...March 2021. Growing tomatoes like apple trees or grape vines totally envious! Really Enjoyed the tips and encouragement! Thank you!

[@mhpgardener]

This will work anywhere that has decent temperatures. The plants will react to heat and humidity just like they would if grown in-ground.

[@martylynchian8628]

Thank you for talking about parts used to make this. So many youtubers have these setup but never talk about what parts they use or how to get them.

[@thorgecko707]

Hey Bobby, I've been watching your videos since day one and was wondering if you'll be doing an update or if you're even growing at this scale anymore? I hope you're doing great and happy with whatever you are doing these days.

[@MagicMikeified]

I've watched countless "educational" vids about hydro-growing. I've been hesitant to start because I kept hearing different methods. Seeing your results, in a video that want unbearably dull, has provided me with the piece of direction I was needing. Thank you for stepping outside of your comfort zone :)

[@grandmastermicochero]

can you share what type of tomatoes you grow and what do you use to keep white flys and aphids away? thanks enjoy your vids!

[@promosolved]

I'm in the process of duplicating your dutch bucket system. I bought my square buckets with lids from my local do-nut shot for a $1.75 a piece!! They are 4 gallons but they are kind of translucent so I'm going to paint them or wrap them with black vinyl. I might upload a video of my progress when i get the rest of equipment for my set up. Thanks for all the great detailed information!!

[@bramhallhomesteadtexas1179]

what are you calling a sucker? can you make a video showing exactly what you mean? I guess I could research it my self but at the moment you are my gardening mentor.

[@rillianuk2345]

Clones.

[@markw3598]

YEAH, THAT really cleared it up!!! SHRE!!

[@straubdavid9]

I love going back through your older vids, even though I personally will never get anywhere near the kind of production you have. My growing space is 12'x40' in total and in fact was my driveway, since turned garden. Take care.

[@GlobalTubeTruth]

Most people don't know Frank Zappa had a twin brother that went into the tomato growing business. lol

[@globalgyro]

I have learned more on your hydroponic video than all I have watched. I highly recommend your KZbin channel. Thanks again Bruce

[@周钦祥]

+Bruce Acree hello ,you can ask me. because I am 农业工程师。

[@mhpgardener]

Since I'm always around, I do it manually. Once the weather breaks, I'll have an addition to the reservoir, and I'll get everything automated. I prefer the digital timers cuz the manual ones that I've used have a tendency to stick.

[@dontarguewithfools]

Man I can't tell you how helpful your videos are. This is my first year growing vegetables. Started with 2 containers. Now I have 14 containers, 4x8 raised bed and studying to start my first greenhouse.

[@chandra0102]

mhpgardener: I have been trying to learn hydroponics gardening during these winter months on youtube, so as to be ready to start building a dutch bucket system as soon as the weather allows. Yours are by far the most useful and helpful instructional videos on this subject. You have that helpful tone in your videos that makes them most interesting and admirable. I intend in setup a 10-bucket system in my backyard this spring and have been collecting all the supplies that I would need. One question I have is about fertilizers. Instead of spending lot of money on General Hydroponics Flora series, I was wondering if, for growing tomatoes, I can start with Miracle Grow and modify it by adding a few additional items like Calcium, Magnesium, etc. to make it suitable for hydroponic tomatoes. Also, what if anything would I need to add to Miracle Grow for green leafy crops like herbs, lettuces, chard, etc. I would greatly appreciate any ideas, suggestions regarding this. Many thanks for taking the time to make and post these excellent instructional videos to help others.

[@stwrthnn]

Yes, Miracle Grow will work but may lack the trace minerals and nutrients for good hydroponic results. Miracle Grow is to supplement growing in soil.

[@markw3598]

Be careful which Miracle Grow you use, some is for plant growth only, some is to produce more 'crops'!

[@maheep15july]

@ Chandra how's it going bro? have you started ? Are you from India too ?

[@mhpgardener]

That's a great idea getting the kids involved. Gardening skills will be something that they can use the rest of their lives.

[@jetle25]

great videos on a homemade hydroponic. How did you wrap the buckets so well with black plastic?

[@mhpgardener]

jetle25 I just took my time and wrapped them like I would a Christmas present, nice and neat.

[@jetle25]

You must give really nice Christmas presents. Thanks

[@StudentEternal]

mhpgardener Wrapped looks so much better than spray painted, thanks for the good idea.

[@scotthenderson3360]

mhpgardener , tomatoes are expensive at the grocery store,have you sold any of them to a supermarket,or supermarkets yet.Elementary kid,Peace,Out, & GOD BLESS YOU, & YOUR FAMILY.P.S.I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATE THAT YOU ARE AT,MAYBE WE COULD SELL SOME TO SOME STORES.I GUESS that YOU PROBABLY ALREADY have found your buyers,or keep the tomatoes for your FAMILY.IF NOT,COMMENT BACK, & MAYBE WE COULD HELP EACH OTHER.Scott

[@scotthenderson3360]

mhpgardener , Regardless,it was an entertaining video.GOD BLESS.SCOTT

[@WinstonMLewis]

I am from the Caribbean and have been watching your videos for a while now and very impressed with your success. Your explanations are very simple and straight forward, Keep up the good work i am loving it.

[@JQPOINT]

what an excellent teacher..Thank you very much

[@lyquach1149]

I'm very proud of you. Everything you do is make so sense.thank for all your hot works day and night.

[@RampagingRn]

I"m just getting started in hydroponic gardening. I've watched alot of youtube videos on NTS systems but your videos are hands down the best. I was curious if your selling your produce and if so do you have any suggestions on marketing to local restaurants/businesses? Thanks in advance for any advice! Keep up the great work with videos!

[@Lafemme46]

You are on a mission brother. I don't know what the end result will be but, it's going to be fantastic. I am so happy that things are working so good. Did you guy get a lot of snow yesterday. I'm in northern Maryland and we were spared.You have really inspired me to do better with my garden. Thanks Bobby and God Bless.

[@Douglas-pk4og]

What do you do about pollination. Bees or hand?

[@markw3598]

I use hand myself! Wait, what?? Oh you mean for the plants!!!

[@fgerhartofsa]

Tomatoes are self pollinating. A slight wind is all it takes.

[@mhpgardener]

Thanks Brock. It shouldn't be too long before you'll be getting cranked up. I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with this time.

[@missyt3017]

Your videos are very informative. Thanks for sharing.

[@Stohz]

I love this time of year. Weather starts getting warmer, and its gardening time again!

[@MungoidHen]

wow great, u have a really personable easy way about your attitude with this stuff. yes its also good to learn all these great ideas too. peace on u brother green fingers.

[@bradmetcalf5333]

That's because he's southern :)

[@MungoidHen]

YES. I expect that is 100% True. I am SOUTHERN too. From Southern England.

[@Menelyagor12]

MungoidHen yeh cause there are no ugly or mean people from the south.

[@bradmetcalf5333]

GglePlus Sux there are plenty of you mean people from the south. But there are no Yankees with a charming demeanor about them

[@MungoidHen]

You're all Great . I love you all.

[@MasterSauceMuslim]

I have been watching your videos for weeks now and have just started a garden of my own thanks to your videos. I plan to post my progress on my channel but so far my seedlings are growing well. Keeping making vids.

[@homefarmideas]

Love your videos my friend:) Have you thought about putting red wigglers into your buckets so they can clean up any dead roots? Once you pull your plants I am thinking you can just bypass cleaning them out and just replace the lost perlite from the roots taking perlite with them when they are removed.

[@homefarmideas]

By the way mhpgardener, God Bless you my friend:)

[@Bifforamma]

The perlight will cut the little worms up. It will scrape the hide off your helpers as well as fungus gnats, aphids, pupa and larva. Great stuff to top dress soil with about 2-3 inches and walla; bye, bye bugs.

[@usernamegoeshere999]

Man, you need a TV show. The information is fantastic, comprehensive, and delivered in such a way that it remains entertaining while still thick on the information. I'm sketching out a small indoor hydroponic setup modeled after yours for lettuce for the coming winter months. Keep the videos coming!

[@reinux]

Wow, that's awesome. Are you selling to farm markets?

[@LaurenTurtles]

I HAVE BEEN GROWING TOMATOES ALL MY LIFE AND I HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM THIS MAN

[@mhpgardener]

An aphid on the lens? Hmmm.... I told them to stay out of the picture. :)

[@mluisis1]

Thanks, i have a lettuce hydroponic and i have learned a lot from you. Next i will do the dutch bucket system, not as big as yours, only 4 or 5 buckets. Keep on teaching. you are very good at it.

[@PeteCorp]

You're awesome.

[@evilroyslade2491]

Eight years later and it's still great and informative, Thanks

[@CapnKew]

You are a champ, thanks for the time and effort to show off your system and crop. This is surgical.

[@21beachhead]

The setup looks so neat which is intriguing as well. Simple and effective. Cool that the crop is all from sucker clones.

[@firozosman]

7 Years on, and this is still a fantastic video. Thank you Sir. Regards from the other side of the globe : the beautiful Kingdom of Bahrain 🇧🇭!

[@keller2664156]

You should awarded for your additives. Thanks for all of your great videos

[@rlqsanto3801]

I'm from the pacific island where the weather is very humid and hot and i've been trying to plant tomatoes and potatoes. I seem to have a bit of a hard time growing potatoes but tomatoes are growing fine. Only problem are the bugs eating up the leafs. I really like your setup. The area around my house is very rocky and hard to dig up. I will try your setups. Thanks for this awesome vid. 👍🤙

[@mr1enrollment]

Just wanted to thank you, I am to begin a DB Hydro system this season, (2015). It will be small, just 3-4 buckets, and outside. You have filled in some question I've had with your videos. They are much appreciated. D

[@rewalczak74]

I have done a hybrid Dutch bucket this past summer. Basically, I did used limes stone in the buckets to weight them down and large net pots. The water pump pumped up the water and it drained back into the reservoir. I did not use screen/ filter media nor pearlite.

[@mhpgardener]

I run string from the top of the GH down to the buckets. And the stems are secured to the string with "trellis clips". It works great.

[@mhpgardener]

I use bailing twine tied to the purlins up top. And the vines are secured to the twine with trellis clips. It's a simple way to keep things under control.

[@mtbotteE85]

I absolutely love this system. I have had a 7 bucket system running now for 4 days and the plants have nearly doubled in size. One of my plants is a clone and it is lagging behind, but showing growth also. I will keep adding buckets as time permits and hopefully get to 40-50 this year. Next year there will be no dirt tomatoes, only dutch buckets.

[@M0D0C42]

Your skill, determination and hard work blows me away. And no detail left undone, right down to the reservoir with a cup holder. (lol)

[@mhpgardener]

I use a commercial landscape fabric for the ground covering. It's not too expensive, and has held up pretty good for the first year. thank you.

[@21beachhead]

I don't know how you do it. (But sure glad that you do) Love the sunken tote idea and the reflective piece about lessons learned and tweaking a successful idea. On a side note, I "reinvented the wheel" and lost out on several winter crops. doh. I wonder how much food you have directly or indirectly helped produce. Now you have me thinking about building a greenhouse! Thank you again.

[@OptimusAndroid26]

I really appreciate the time and energy you put into making these videos and sharing this information for free. Thank you.

[@adventureaisle]

Another huge fan here! I've watched these videos of yours over and over and will be using the information not only for our own family (seriously thinking of moving so we can have a greenhouse like yours), but also for our local elementary school. I've watched so many other presentations and yours are among the finest! Thanks so very much!

[@m42069583]

I like how you explain things to the point without much unnecessary chatter. Great video

[@grandmajab1]

you explain things so well even a dummy could do this!! so many people are really boring, but not you!! your the best!! thank you so much.

[@trickyricky61]

Hey Bobby, What I did to heat the water for my greenhouse was to get some 1/2 inch bentable copper piping and shape it over my wood stove and circulate water thru the pipe with a Taco Pump into a Holding tank and when its time to water I send the amount I need down the line to the compost tea tank and get a Dose of tea filtered in to the water then pump that to the plants. My woodstove is running up here in Maine this time of Year anyways , so why not get the Free Heat.

[@mhpgardener]

Thanks. After trying several varieties... my first choice of tomatoes in a hydro setup is Big Beef, hands down. As for reservoir sizing, bigger is better, so you don't have to add water every day.I think 2-3 gallons per plant would be a good ratio. Mine is much lower, so I have to add water more often. I'll be adding a barrel and a float valve here shortly, to cut down on me adding so much water.

[@Exfog]

Had a quick question sir! When you add water, are you adding plain water typically (until a nute change-out) as the plants are drinking more water than nutes, or are you adding nutrient mix? I always get a bit confused with that, and considering a float valve myself, but wondering if the feeder bucket should be plain water, or nutrient mix? Thanks!

[@mhpgardener]

There are quite a few sprays that are supposed to help such as Neem. It does ok, but you have to stick with it for awhile to make sure they are completely gone.

[@ahmedis8235]

great vdeo, I am starting a company with vegetables grown in hydroponic gardens, and your videos help a lot, greetings from Bolivia.

[@m99037]

I've been watching your vidios on your dutch bucket system. Very nice. You could cut down on the nutrient getting hot by running the feed line under the frame out of the sun. My brother used to heat his swimming pool with black pipe along the back of his fence recirculating the water back to his pool. Even if you run the water in this system all day it will still get very warm. Just running three or four time a day the water solution must get very hot between cycles. Marty

[@michaelhemgesberg6827]

I've been gardening all my life. I'm so excited to try this this spring. I'll have a rototiller for sale in the fall if I am successful. No more weeding or daily watering. Your videos are great. All of them !!! Michigan growing seasons are much shorter but I know I can do this. Thank You and keep up the good work.

[@tourans2472]

Thank you very much for what you're doing! I'm wonder if the taste is the same as when you plant them in the soil?

[@Quietwoods2]

Bobby, following your videos on hydroponics, and planning my own setup got more real today. I made my first haul on grow buckets. Visited a grocery story that has a bakery to find 4 and 1/4 gallon round buckets with lids and Rectangular 4 gallon buckets with lids. I tried the five gallon paint strainer in the rectangular bucket and it's perfect, just perfect. I had to pay only two dollars for bucket with lids. They had four two gallon buckets with lids which I grabbed too for a buck a piece

[@scarecrowgrows2055]

finally made your dutch bucket! Works great, thanks for the hundreds of useful tips

[@kbmcf9592]

Thanks for the DB growing info. We have a 10 x 12 Polycarbonite greenhouse w/50gal water garden. We are going to set up an aquaculture system for small plants, lettuce, strawberries, etc. but wasn't sure what to do about larger plants. Since I have cats and foster kittens for the local APL I have alot of litter buckets. This system would be great for recycling the buckets and growing larger vegetable plants. My brother grows mushrooms in the buckets and is going to try aeroponics in buckets.

[@mtbotteE85]

Great video. Just made my first dutch buckets today. I have three that I am manually operating until I get the drain pipe and drip hoses in place. I am already impressed.

[@mhpgardener]

I water 3 times a day, for about 30 minutes. I use paint strainers inside the buckets to keep the perlite from being returned to the reservoir.

[@STUNTERSIX]

Bobby I'm new to the gardening hobby and i would love to see a indepth video of how you start your suckers from start to dutch bucket and what are your thoughts for chile peppers. any ideas or helpful tips also i have subscribed to your station and have found your my go to guy for idea's and how to. Thanks Bobby you have really inspired me and appreciate your willing to share your knowledge of gardening.

[@sabakhit]

I have made my own Dutch buckets like yours but instead of using bags. I put a cap on the bottom of the inside drain line & drilled several small holes. I drilled 1" hole on side of bucket centered @ 2 & 9/16" from bottom it fits nice & sung to bottom of bucket. I also put my res pump in a filter bag. I am also testing road gravel for grow media it cost 14 $ a ton

[@ianplyer]

Great innovation, looking forward to adding this to our aquaponic farm soon. The green house plastic install worked wonderfully!

[@tonkatoytruck]

This is my second year. I thought maybe last year was just beginners luck. I started earlier this year and they have not disappointed me this year either. Here in Houston, my plants kept growing but the plants just stopped pollinating. This year I will try some 60% screen. My Better Boys are consistently growing faster and larger than my Big Beefs for the second year in a row. Thanks for sharing what you know with the rest of us. P.S. The sun destroys my painter screens in the heat. I could only save about half of them.

[@mhpgardener]

I do about 5-6 months, start to finish. If you have good weather, you can go much longer. But inside the greenhouse, it gets too hot in the summer so I shut them down.

[@mygtr2021]

Keep up the great vids. Always inspires me to play on my hydro system. When people complement my system, I tell them to watch ur channel. Keep the great vids coming.

Even closer...I'm in Raleigh. I don't grow anything on nearly the scale you do but I could still learn a few things.

[@mhpgardener]

If you're using the storebought potting soil, it helps to mix in some type of compost, or even worm castings.The bagged mixes vary quite a bit, even from one lot to the next...so it's hard to say for sure exactly what is in each one.

[@mhpgardener]

It depends on the weather. During the heat, mine tend to use a lot more water and the ppm of the reservoir goes up. During the cooler months, its a lot more steady.

[@عبدوسليم-ك7ت]

Thank you my dear professor ... Please provide a statement of the type and proportion of the nutritious solution according to the growth stages of the tomato plant

[@sdfft820]

Bobby I’m not sure if you read these comments but I learned that you can use the growing medium such as perlite or potting soil by first microwaving them to kill off any microorganisms.

[@gregboshell977]

Bobby I miss your videos please do some more. Thanks Greg

[@Windragon76]

This is a very clever way to grow plants of any variety. The greenhouse they are in helps as well since, to a degree, it can be temperature controlled. If you live in uncertain or harsh weather conditions (desert), this could definitely be a benefit. I like it.

[@mhpgardener]

The standard bato buckets are about 3 gallons. And they grow 2 tomatoes in each bkt. So I guess you could use the 2 gallon, for one plant. It's worth a shot as a test.

[@willgaukler8979]

I am about to go aquaphonic here in zone 6 and very much liked the information you provide..best vedio ever....best of luck & keep on growin...your system is sooo neet and clean

[@leewatson1805]

That looks like it might be easy for someone like you. If you do this be sure and let me know would like to see this in action.