[MHS2] Enabler Build - Highest Rider Damage

[@raphael2156]

Knew you'd be fiending this game, couldn't wait until you started putting videos out again. Can't wait to see what else you come up with man, and I'm glad to see you're back!

[@LyonOlivier69]

Thanks man! I really enjoy this game

[@defurnesellier1984]

Dude straight up OHKO'd the EL Mizutsune with a bow.That's impressive

[@tilly3702]

Wow this game actually looks pretty neat. If im not still burnt out on mh games in a month or so, I might try it out.

[@LyonOlivier69]

It's completely different than mainline Monster Hunters, but I find it really enjoyable. If you're not sure if that's for you, there is a demo you can try out on PC or Switch :)

[@tilly3702]

@@LyonOlivier69 oooh ill probably try that out then. Since your last stream ive also been playing the witcher too and its been a blast. Thanks for the reccomendation and stay safe!

[@sir_coma60]

I also found the soul kinship to be inconsistent. Hope its just a bug and they fix it. When active (rarely its seems), Gene XL + Skill XL can give 50 kinship with pet, which is just fucking hilarious.

[@valcristPL]

That Devil May Cry 5 music

[@ramon860]

Great video. Probably my favorite of all I've seen for this game. What I like about this build is that it's support oriented towards the rider. If you have a monstie that you like but is not very strong or rare, you can still effectively use this build and give them a niche for your team.

[@LyonOlivier69]

Yep, + the dot on poison seems to be scaled on the target and not on your monster. It’s adds a significant dps from your monster so it’s pretty good

[@sir_coma60]

Exactly! Time to make my Kulu Yakuza help beat hardcore fatalis!

[@Red_Bishop]

I have a somewhat same set-up. Using bazelgeuse armor with critXL/HoundingXL talisman my silverwind does the statuses except no Below skill on it. I just manually cast Atk up with a Hunting horn

[@paulk496]

Hello, I have a question please. How did you manage to survive with 1 HP several times after getting hit by Tigrex? I couldn't see any passive that could make it possible regarding your gear setup. Thank you in advance!

[@LyonOlivier69]

You can’t die from head to heads if you win them. That’s why it’s safe to be at 1hp if you know the mons :)

[@paulk496]

@@LyonOlivier69 Oh I see, thank you very much for your reply! I guess I just missed the core mechanic of the game.. xD Thank you very much again! 😊

[@plastic_alligator9819]

I already maxed out Vacuum Blast for silver nargacuga, can I use it as a replacement for thousand blades or no?

[@BlakeHobbesLML]

Would you say that using GS with this just adds an extra layer of hoop to jump through that SnS is just more feasible?

[@LyonOlivier69]

Yea and at least in solo if you spam Furry slash on Sns it has more dps than greatsword

[@cristianmetz9470]

sweet build, do you feel it works best with SnS or can Bow be made to shine here? I cant find anyone highlighting Bow! would love to see it shine :D

[@LyonOlivier69]

Works well with bow too, just use power coating instead of sns skill move :)

[@DJMJ4]

Thanks for the info tidus.

[@qwas7365]

That DMC5 music is spicy

[@pocketjedi6675]

Hey Tidus, are element def down and skillseal considered statuses that can be taken advantage of with salt in wound ?

[@LyonOlivier69]

Yes for both of them, although skillseal in pve is really hard to proc since most monsters are immune to it

[@pocketjedi6675]

@@LyonOlivier69 thx a lot for the quick answer

[@adrianchan2670]

Hey dude where did you find all these damage calculations, can you provide me with a link please

[@LyonOlivier69]

hyperwiki.jp/mhs2/

[@adrianchan2670]

Thanks

[@AMPLIFl]

Incredibly put together my friend. Thank you for sharing.

[@LyonOlivier69]

Thanks for your comment!

[@nikanika56]

Nice! I will try this out later, Ive only been playing the game for 2 days now so I take my time and finish the story first, but from your intro I see you use the SnS, Bow and Hammer, are these in ur opinion the better weapon combo? or what do you think about GS, HH and GL?

[@LyonOlivier69]

I think all weapons have a place in the game. Obviously HH doesn’t do as much dmg but it has very useful buffs. GL Im not a huge fan of tho, but the rest of the weapons are all very good and usable

[@nikanika56]

@@LyonOlivier69 I see, thanks, I will eventually try them all out properly, just for now I am looking for a good setup, I am kinda using what u use in the intro except for SnS, I use GS instead, was just wondering if SnS is just better or GS is bad and I should maybe switch for now, thanks for your quick response :)

[@Polopollo75]

Ohh that is nice. If you play with Reverto, I assume he will consume all your bleed effects? So is it better to just play solo? Also what do you think about Synchronize XL? I heard it stacks if it is both a gene on the monster, and a talisman on the rider. That sounds crazy as well! What are all the weapons you are using? Mostly SnS? Do you swap for each monsters?

[@LyonOlivier69]

It depends, Narga is pretty fast, and so is your rider, so a lot of the time, narga will apply bleed first and you will go second. But it can happen that reverto takes the bleed out before you. If he does, hopefully it's on his big hit and not on a tackle. I've had him hit for 6-7-8k damage on bleed when he pulls his bigger attacks so it's not so bad either. Cocnerning Synchronize XL I haven't tried to stack monster and Rider skill, I was actually planning on tryign out a build on that next. I think It can be fun, I don't know exactly how good it is because synchronise adds 80 dmg but you only attack once (Since it's a combined attack) and you can't use all out on your rider since you can't double attack with weapon skills. So you lose on the 60 attack from all out. I will try it out, seems like it can be a very viable and fun build as well :) I mostly use sns and bow yes, it does very good consistant damage and needs no setup. Chaser on hammer does insane damage but it requires a lot of setup and I found it to be less consistant.

[@Polopollo75]

@@LyonOlivier69 the HH is amazing with the evasion riff song that gives dodge to everybody! Better than hammer to me! Bow is cool but I am not sure if I should use the charge feature. Synchronize (double attack) stacks from what I read. So 80 for you and 80 for the monster in one attack, that cancel the opponent attack, and can still apply statuses. But yeah, a bleed would be for reverto after though...

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@Polopollo75 yea I really like HH as well. As for bow, I tend to very rarely use the charge. Usually I use charge if a mons is about to fly and have a wing hitzone so I can do a rapid shot on it and drop it instantly or things like that. Damage wise I think spamming power coating is better.

[@Polopollo75]

@@LyonOlivier69 yeah I tried to charge when monster is about to fly but the charged shot after hit a random monster part, not always the wings

[@Polopollo75]

I have a talisman Bonding (M) & All-out (XL). Bounding is "kinship skill+. Greatly increase kinship skill power". How is it different from all out? These working are confusing. Is it for the riding final attack?

[@LyonOlivier69]

All out for rider are the weapon skills, kinship skill is the ultimate on the mount. Also the added damage from kinship skill+ is really low

[@Polopollo75]

@@LyonOlivier69 good to know. Thanks! Almost done with my silver nargacuga with all your genes from this video. I'm pretty excited!

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@Polopollo75 that’s awesome man I’m excited for you

[@Polopollo75]

@@LyonOlivier69 Yeah your build is the best PVE I could find. I crafted all the weapons and I was not super satisfied. But now I am destorying everything! Only issue is my new narga starts with like 8ks ^^ I don't know how many battles it will be until it starts with 30!

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@Polopollo75 takes a while ahah, but eventually it’ll increase

[@terror4310]

Big pp damage

[@Aretepolitic]

I love this break down. So I will be checking out your channel. Ty for making it

[@reeceos9410]

It wouldn't be 100% on noxious XL if Base % is 80 and the gene adds 20% it would be 20% of 80 = 96% FYI Same with breaking it would be 48%

[@LyonOlivier69]

It’s a 20% flat

[@mintyfreshgum8710]

Why the choice of silverwind here, over say like bloodbath for higher non-elemental damage on your monster? Is the speed that much of a priority?

[@LyonOlivier69]

Yes, you want him to apply bleed before you the most often possible. BB works too if you like him, just this isn’t really a monstie damage oriented build so the damage stat isn’t a priority. But feel free to experiment

[@amorbbbq4114]

Hi Tidus! Nice job on This build and on the video, as always. Got a question, does Might gene stack with Salt in Wound gene? Should it be useful if we add it in place of the rainbow gene? Thx for the answer :)

[@LyonOlivier69]

Hi! Yes it does, but if you replace the rainbow gene you lose a power, speed and tech bingo, so probably not worth it :)

[@amorbbbq4114]

@@LyonOlivier69 was kinda my purpose. Thx. Btw are you French?

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@amorbbbq4114 yes, but I live in the states :)

[@amorbbbq4114]

@@LyonOlivier69 Je m’en doutais vu ta maitrise de l’anglais ;) Du coup je me permet une dernière question (en français), j’ai énormément de mal à farmer les œufs de Seregios, tu as un endroit à me conseiller ? Ou du moins un endroit où spawn un Seregios?

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@amorbbbq4114 oui, je vais dans les forbidden grounds (je connais pas le nom français), c’est juste avant le story boss. Si tu fais demi tour il y a un seregios la bas et juste à côté, un felyne burrow. Tu peux prendre son œuf, passer le temps au burrow (evening/afternoon) et seregios respawn. Sinon il est aussi au elder’s lair zone 9 :)

[@cygnusy1481]

Been rolling for talismans for a while now. Got an all-out (L) + Weak point (L) one, havent decided to spend the caps yet. Guess I should though, this looks like fun.

[@cygnusy1481]

Omg! Just got into a random desert SR den, and actually found YOUR talisman! All out XL with Weak Point XL!

[@acidfun...]

Why use Noble Ana for SnS? Is it a preference or would any Top SnS do the trick. And does it need to me elem or can a non elem SnS work?

[@LyonOlivier69]

I was matching element to do more dmg, but any top sns will do very well. You can use non ele sns, they will do overall very good, but on specific matchups, matching element will always grant more dmg

[@kycemily]

what does bleeding do?

[@skullleader9791]

Great vid, Tidus! Will apply those genes to my monsties and the suggested armor build and talisman

[@Nemesis.9249]

do i need to use your weapons or i can use my own weapons?

[@LyonOlivier69]

You can use your own weapon. Just take the strongest weapons and try to match élément if you can

[@Nemesis.9249]

Thanks for the Quick respond man

[@grapeoni547]

are there any specifick things you need on yourre weapon or does it not matter

[@LyonOlivier69]

Doesn’t matter, just high damage and/or matching the right element

[@zhurge6109]

Where are you finding these percentages???!!! Please let us knowww!

[@LyonOlivier69]

hyperwiki.jp/mhs2/armor/

[@zhurge6109]

@@LyonOlivier69 Thank youuu!!!!

[@aaroncheshire3876]

This is awesome, I definitely gotta try this! What are your opinions on the different weapons for this build? I see you're using S&S and Bow. How do they compare to the other 4 weapons? What kind of coatings/weapon skills have you found to be effective?

[@LyonOlivier69]

I like sns and bow because they require no setup. I find it easier to abuse bleed spam on weapons that can use their skill every turn, rather than trying to coordinate hammer charges and bleed. I mean it’s possible, just not as practicable imo. As far as coatings go, power coatings all the way. They’re a 1.5x modifier while rapid fire is 1.8 but you have to spend a turn charging, so in most cases I would use power coating only

[@aaroncheshire3876]

@@LyonOlivier69 That makes a lot of sense, thank you! I also didn't know the damage modifiers for power coating and rapid fire, so I appreciate you listing those. I've been feeling the same about weapons. With the whole part-breaking aspect that makes me frequently switch weapons, and the fact that sometimes the monster falls over and you get one turn to pump out damage, I've been very much appreciating the S&S and bow's (w/power coating) abilities to instantly pump out damage. TLDR: I agree and hearing your thoughts make me feel even better about my thoughts 😅

[@darkwin1977]

you cannot die from winning head to head? WHY I DIDNT KNOW THIS?

[@LyonOlivier69]

Lol idk, but it helps a lot to know it!

[@darkwin1977]

i will really help on the future [barely defeat oltura and unlocked deviants on my playthrought]

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@darkwin1977 hell yea man that’s where the fun begins imo

[@tylerpowell2607]

Do you think you could do a video on how crit chance on monsters work

[@LyonOlivier69]

Hmm sure, I have a couple of vid planned before that but I can. I know Phemeto is also planning on making one so you might wanna look on his channel soon

[@admkaz6216]

question: i notice in your battle against grimclaw tigrex, how you maintain kinship energy after you cast merciless roar?, on round 2 i dont see any decrease in the video tho

[@LyonOlivier69]

Because I change monster. Each monster has its own kinship bar. So narga kinship decrease, and when I change monster, the new one has a fresh kinship bar

[@admkaz6216]

@@LyonOlivier69 oh so you bring two narga to the battle for this setup

[@riossaleem]

Can this be used with nergigante or bloodbath? Is there an added benefit of using silver wind for this build over the other two?

[@pilidod]

Due to the nature of the game, basically every non-elemental monstie build can go on any of the non-elemental monsties. Silverwind is the fastest of the three though, while Bloodbath and Nergigante tend to go last in the turn order from my experience. Mostly just a matter of preference.

[@riossaleem]

Ah ok, I appreciate the input! I love the tactic and will definitely give it a shot

[@polopoppers]

does merciless roar work on non-elemental weapons/damage too? since description says "Greatly increases all elemental attack for all allies" I assumed it only works for any element besides non-elemental

[@LyonOlivier69]

Yup, it's very weird the way they phrase it but, Non-elemental is actually an element lol

[@polopoppers]

@@LyonOlivier69 I see, thank you!

[@doctorjeimz]

Does it have to be a silver wind Narga? Can I use a Nergi instead?

[@LyonOlivier69]

Yea nerg Is fine

[@doctorjeimz]

@@LyonOlivier69 thank you. Just want to say. Awesome video, very helpful!

[@boeserKadser]

Thanks mate 🙂👍

[@XExtraVaganzax]

Hi tidus why dont u put elemtboost 3,2,1 aswell is it bad ?

[@LyonOlivier69]

It doesn't stack, so it would be wasted genes!

[@XExtraVaganzax]

@@LyonOlivier69 ah thanks so much !

[@blazikenowen]

palamute also has thousand blades

[@LyonOlivier69]

Yes but it’s fixed on seregios, you can go capture one on the map near the forbidden ground in less than 2 minutes guaranteed, no need to farm palamutes den

[@guardian_of_the_rune]

Good to know all out is so good I was thinking heroics would be a better skill if you always win the head to head though.

[@LyonOlivier69]

Heroics just add 35 dmg compared to 65 for all out. It’s very underwhelming unfortunately

[@guardian_of_the_rune]

@@LyonOlivier69 oh wow that doesn't seem right. It's less than attack up even though you need to be near death? When you put it on a monster they do crazy damage while it's active. But maybe all out would be better?

[@TheShadowolf1987]

Can we see the team you use

[@LyonOlivier69]

Sure I can show it next vid

[@jocelyncordeiro4870]

Awesome build! I already have a similar build on my silverwind nargacuga. Now I just need the dreadqueen armor and an all-out talisman. I can't wait to see how this will affect the status chasing skills on hammers!

[@Clavitz1]

This IMO is the 2nd build to construct after you have a solid Non-Elem Monstie build made to help farm out the SR Dens. great part about this build is that is works with all elements so if you dont have a monstie with a certain element, your Rider can easily cover it and you dont even have to have the best of the best weapons. Great for farming.

[@vaniavampy]

how do you get the numbers for salt in the wound etc?

[@LyonOlivier69]

Datamines

[@vaniavampy]

@@LyonOlivier69 is there a site or something for all this data?

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@vaniavampy yep :) there it is! hyperwiki.jp/mhs2/

[@erickoehler7851]

Did you do testing to find the rates of status rate and damage increase or are you using some database?

[@LyonOlivier69]

I’m using datamines

[@erickoehler7851]

@@LyonOlivier69 thanks for the quick reply

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@erickoehler7851 hyperwiki.jp/mhs2/ Here’s the link if you want

[@erickoehler7851]

@@LyonOlivier69 Thanks!

[@jemdhar4603]

so how did you not die on the H2h with rex? i mean i stayed at 1 hp forever :D?

[@LyonOlivier69]

You can’t die if you win hth

[@jemdhar4603]

@@LyonOlivier69 kinda feel stupid now knowing i already have 150h.... xD

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@jemdhar4603 ahah don’t feel bad, we all learn things that we should’ve known way too late

[@jemdhar4603]

@@LyonOlivier69 is 1000 blades better than vacuum blast (sw nargad bleeding move)? if so, why?

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@jemdhar4603 vacuum blast is more expensive in kinship and cannot crit. Thousands blade can crit and is cheaper so I would use that always

[@GoToBedSheeva]

Amazing!

[@claudioalbano7562]

what SNS do you recommend?

[@LyonOlivier69]

The strongest per ele. Iirc it’s rathalos for fire, velkhana for ice, taroth for water, kirin for thunder and ruiner for drzgon

[@claudioalbano7562]

@@LyonOlivier69 hey sorry for asking but I can't find the fire and dragon, can you say the name? ty man

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@claudioalbano7562 blazing falchion and eradication vanguard

[@corukana]

@@LyonOlivier69 What bows do you use for each element then? Also what does lirc mean? Thanks for all your help!

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@corukana iirc = if I remember correctly. I haven’t played stories 2 since the hellblade/boltreaver update, not sure what bows are meta now, sorry!

[@gertfoley]

Just with this one, why not swap around the Harmony Gene and Inflict Ailment to get that Technical Bingo? Seeing as you'll still get the Neutral bingo from the left column this method, while also squeezing out a bit more daamge from Thousand Blades?

[@LyonOlivier69]

I mention in the video that I didn’t have enough gene at the moment to swap them but yea I was aware. I kept changing this build so at the time I was kinda stuck, but yea ideally you would swap them

[@michellelim5865]

The game is name monster hunter story 2 ok I have 4 elder dragon

[@gadgee1214]

Few questions. Is 50 dmg applied after or before buffs? Does Salt stack with mutiple status? Does applying mores atatus extend the status effect? eg. bleed gets extended

[@LyonOlivier69]

The 50 attack is added to your attack stat when you hit a monster afflicted with any status. Salt does not stack with multiple status. Applying status does not extend or refresh already applied status

[@Crystalfilia]

What armor would you recommend if you have a All-Out XL and Critical XL charm? Do the skills like Thunder Boost XL out dps Salt in the Wound XL also?

[@LyonOlivier69]

Ele xl is 40 while salt is 50, so no but they’re more consistant. Hmm that’s a tough one cause critical is already on my go to armors lol. I’ll have to look at rhe list again and come back to you sorry

[@Crystalfilia]

@@LyonOlivier69 No need to apologize! I was looking through the armor list myself and yeah Critical XL seems really well distributed on the armors with the good other skills haha

[@lazania61]

Bellow Gene is not passive

[@LyonOlivier69]

I know, I just put it there cause it’s a buff not an attack. Just a detail

[@nuke2099]

I'm doing a similar build to this except with Bloodbath although I can't make my mind up entirely how I want to build it. Almost about to give up on the move type bingo bonuses since it's restricting. I thought of using a rainbow except that's also taking a spot up on the board another gene could be using. Since you mentioned looking at some data do you know if Salt in the Wound is worth using? I want to put Pump Up on Bloodbath because it adds 70-75% more damage when it's up.

[@LyonOlivier69]

Salt in the wound XL fully upgraded on monster is 50 damage as well. It's nice, however it takes a spot and you need to have constant status to make it worth it. I think it can be good if you are able to fit other important genes and have enough status uptime. I haven't messed around with pump up too much yet, but I will eventually, it looks like a really strong Monstie buff

[@nuke2099]

@@LyonOlivier69 Wait 50 damage or 50%. If it's the former I'm skipping it. :D

[@LyonOlivier69]

​@@nuke2099 50 attack. But it's not like 50 damage to the damage number. We don't have the damage formula yet, but to give you an idea, the biggest single damage skill in the game is ALL out that gives 65. I think it adds damage directly to your weapon/attack. For exemple the biggest monstie attack in the game have an attack stat of 110. So 50 added to that would bring them to 160. It is a significant buff

[@nuke2099]

@@LyonOlivier69 I see thanks.

[@alexz5153]

Hey Tidus, im a bit confused. I made the same build and at level 66 im doing 200-300 per hit with the SnS attack on Grim Tigrex head. Roar, Poison and Bleed all applied. Am i missing something :O

[@LyonOlivier69]

What sns do you use? Is it maxed out? Did you use might charm at the pot? Is it on crit?

[@alexz5153]

@@LyonOlivier69 i am using the same as you, kirin sns and its maxed out. might charm and prayer. im testing atm, i guess it wasnt on crit. but is it realistic that its 3 digits normal and 4 digits on crit?

[@alexz5153]

on dreadqueen i have 4k in total, so it seems to work. i guess it wasnt crit before. i had no idea that crit makes so much difference

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@alexz5153 yea crit depending on your setup adds anywhere between 50% and 100% dmg

[@LyonOlivier69]

@@alexz5153 Yes especially if you use speed slash as it's more numbers. As you can see in the vid there is a moment where i don't crit on a speed slash and it's a lot of 200-300. (I just saw your other comment)