MHW Iceborne | How strong is the Alatreon Dominator?

How good is the Alatreon Dominator LBG? It is the first Light Bowgun in MHW that can shoot Dragon Rapid Fire, a special type of Rapid Fire which used to be incredibly strong in past Monster Hunter games. In this video we are doing a deep dive in damage testing, and in the history of Dragon Rapid Fire.
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♬ Music ♬
Deus Ex
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[@TeamDarkside]

Video in 4K!

[@dennywangsaputra5598]

Soo. Lbg rapid fire.. better with safi LBG. Or alatreon dominatrix?

[@BonesofCreation]

Quick question is the hbg one any good?

[@engrrigz]

@@BonesofCreation Its the poorman's HBG for elemental, quoted to Angbata11

[@crimsonicdespair3418]

Have you guys done a video about all the different alatreon weapons and if they're good or not or just the LBG? Love watching your guys videos. They're very helpfil

[@user-cc6ih4ks2d]

日本語字幕有難う〜

[@ikikiyo-guruyo]

I'm Japanese and I've subscribed to the channel. It's easy to watch as the subtitles are available in Japanese. Thank you.

[@extexc280]

But... But... You write in English...

[@angelomendoza6666]

Ext Exc could just be trying their very best english, or google translate...

[@vortexb-sian328]

@DamnImissed 2 bruh, chill

[@NeocrimsonX]

Wholesome

[@GodTier77]

@DamnImissed 2 and this is the difference between the asian community and ours

[@bluhmer1990]

The way I viewed it is that the Alatreon Dominator is the perfect anti-Alatreon and Guiding Lands LBG because you can dish out high elemental damage of each element without having to head back to camp if you build right.

[@Saika_Sakitora]

Only a few monster like Teostar that element lbg proof ineffective because of the fire aura will prevent you from getting the full damage from pierce ammo. So go back to camp and change to something more effective would be a good idea

[@KhoiBoa]

How you gonna deal high elemental damage? You gonna have fire ice thunder water dragon attack lvl 6? Gun ok at best.

[@chriwehl7173]

@@Saika_Sakitora What do Dragon shots apply?

[@marentes310]

KhoiKO that’s why you build for the element you’re gonna use bruh lol

[@onagos7050]

@@Saika_Sakitora Lol what? I get like 4 to 5 mins kills on him with elemental LBG, Water shot down his fire mode and just staggers him non stop Tempered or not and I can say the same with Luna using Ice.

[@waction07]

You know the rng for jewels is bad when a member of tds is missing a jewel. Dont know if it's not his main account but....yea.

[@triplocore]

Im not saying that is right, but I just get tired and started to hack the jewels. Aren't worth spend hundreds of hours to grind a thing who you dont know when will drop. Its a game, it should be fun, not a work.

[@raimondsstokmanis1892]

@@triplocore How did you do it exactly?

[@triplocore]

@@raimondsstokmanis1892 Two ways: the first one is using a mod to modify the shop and buy the jewels with coins. The second way is using a table for cheat engine. The both ways are disponible on nexus mods.

[@raimondsstokmanis1892]

@@triplocore Oh I thought so. Because I have seen a bunch of low mr and hr dudes running around with fatalis longswords , which is funny.

[@triplocore]

@@raimondsstokmanis1892 Lmao for me it would ruin all the fun and the purpose of the game, but jewels are boring AF to farm.

[@berelolencedamidnighttoker2689]

i love how you showed tri and abyssal lagi I miss the days when I was but a wee lad and just laid my eyes for the very first time on mh and you guys were a very big part of that when I was little and first watching your speedruns on lucent narga I was in awe and all I wanted was to be that good all I can say Chris is thx for all the memories and for inspiring me to better myself since I was 12

[@Obi_Dun]

This was surprisingly informative, and really well put together. Great work guys, would love more educational videos like this.

[@Kodiak_P]

Videos like this help me out a lot, since I have looked to you guys in the past for set and weapon inspiration. So knowing which is better for a non-speed runner, how they compare, and budget sets goes a long way for people like me. Thank you.

[@krishnansubramoni7801]

That explanation of why and how is why I love this channel. You people are amazing for helping many people understand why and how this complex (and often confusing) game works

[@Kyukon-038]

Really appreciate this in-depth video, thanks for not only explaining what to do, but why to do that!

[@ONW4V3R]

when you kill Alatreon with dragon weapons to then use it's dragon weapons lel

[@FRED98hunter]

I use Alatreon to destroy Alatreon

[@NeocrimsonX]

@@FRED98hunter big brain time

[@blackhat8518]

Dont be so quick, its team darkside. They will make a onion look overpowered then you try it and realize "shit.... it's just an onion".

[@NeocrimsonX]

@@blackhat8518 shii the weapons improved my kill time (on alatreon and dragon weak monsters) but the razor became my favorite lbg

[@blackhat8518]

@@NeocrimsonX I'm gonna stick to my IG. I survive the most with that and kill him with leas headache when I use it

[@juansebastiana.8573]

Since nobody is talking about, I love how this video was made in 19:9 format, my phone has 19.5:9 screen and looks amazing! By the way, thanks for the video, love your content guys :D

[@ddoldd7819]

oh i didnt know that , that's amazing. ╰(*´︶`*)╯

[@Zero_Red]

I like the way you make MHW info easily digestible. Subscribed

[@athroughzdude]

It's also worth keeping in mind that Kjarr weapons can be Custom Augmented to increase the base stats, which can affect the match up depending on how you handle these.

[@awakenedcrowl]

Neat video ^^ Not a Bowgun player, but still interesting to see how this one holds up

[@reus2529]

Super high-quality video! Chris you are dominating the youtube market of MH.

[@marukocore]

Why are you guys just so AWESOME?!.. Like seriously your content is so entertaining.

[@antoniomartino5960]

A very useful video, congratulations as always 😍

[@weandinchester]

the ending catched me, hahaha so I subscribed! Awesome content guys

[@WisdomAkpan211]

"Catched"?

[@jadinstevens]

at the end when he said "I'll catch you in the next video" an ad cut him off after "you" so I just felt threatened that he was coming for me and there was no escape.

[@Revonlieke]

My immediate thought was that the difference was Critical Element which is good that you mentioned it. Nice video! Might try Ala Dominator

[@richardattenborough2831]

I am subscribed! Have been for years now, you are the gods of this game!

[@Mydougie3193]

Great video TDS! love yalls content

[@AysarAburrub]

i've been watching your content for the longest time, and idk why i wasnt subscribed all this time ... so thanks for the reminder XD ... and thanks for the great content Chris and TDS.

[@aez33r79]

Strong enough to switch my main weapon choice

[@rektexcalibur5254]

Type*

[@WoPR777]

Rekt Excalibur it works either way buddy

[@lincolnlandon6799]

@@rektexcalibur5254 people are so desperate to be right on everything smh

[@Jerry-fw4tb]

@@rektexcalibur5254 What?

[@billyfraiser6298]

@@rektexcalibur5254 I'm assuming that YOU'RE assuming that AEZ33R meant his weapon type....as in he didn't use a LBG beforehand, but now he does. That's the ONLY way your correction would make even a little bit of sense. But even then, AEZ33R doesn't make any mention as to what his old weapon was that he used. So even if that would be your argument.... you have no idea if he was using a LBG beforehand already. Basically, you're an idiot.

[@user-ff6vu9st3z]

何時も動画楽しみにしてます これからも頑張ってください！

[@finnelsner8431]

Just as always, great Video! :)

[@Terminarch]

You moving in on JinJinx and Tuna's territory? Not gonna lie, I'm missing their content. You got me excited.

[@TeamDarkside]

Not really. We wanted to make a speedrun to show off the new Dragon Rapid Fire LBG only to find out that it's actually worse than the Kjarr in this specific case. So in order to still be able to make a good video with the footage we recorded and the time commitment that went into it we decided to focus on a comparison and make an explanatory video on why Dragon Rapid Fire is slower, show the history behind this ammo type and why we had so high expectations. But it needed a full explanation to avoid people misinterpreting this LBG to be bad which isn't the case when taking a look at the big picture. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@KevinLambertperfected]

@@TeamDarkside you could have just said no. (j/k, I

[@theblackbaron4119]

Jinjinx stopped the because his complaint was that it started to bore him, while he only played switchaxe, one of the most boring and simple weapons next to button mashing dual blades. Genius, he could have diversified, but nah, just spam switchaxe wild swing combos and complain that it's boring.

[@KevinLambertperfected]

@Tim Dev I.... Uh..... . RIP me, well played.

[@Newnodrogbob]

The Black Baron it wasn’t switch axe mechanics that bored him. He found the obligatory opening finch shot and softening routine to be demoralizing, among other things. I don’t agree with the guy, but if you’re going to slam him, at least be marginally accurate.

[@user-jz7jd5rj8u]

登録しましたw すごく分かりやすい日本語訳ありがとうございます！

[@Jc_12368]

That synchronized dodge at 0:05 was amazing holy shit

[@thelargo]

I have been subscribed for years I love Team Darkside.

[@NRX1021]

COD:Remember, no Russian MHW: Remember, no Uragaan

[@shitbox7853]

I love this comment

[@unknownbenefactor8029]

Holy shit, you got me there

[@achmadtitofauzan3809]

Last time i saw uragaan abused, was when TDS shows us the 360 jumpshots aerial bow

[@sadasda44]

わかりやすい解説ありがとう！ thanks！

[@BlueShellshock]

This looks fun! I always ignored LBG in favor of HBG's heavier hitting style, but I never really toyed with an elemental playstyle since HBG tends not to like elements and I don't play Switch Axe. I've got some extra Alatreon parts and full Fatalis armor, so I'll give this a shot.

[@lelouchgeassking]

i have seen other subscriber charts before thats the saddest that i have seen yet but also the one with the highest potential :D

[@kuulmies1]

Subbed this time thanks for reminding :D

[@palu5518]

I subscribed. I don't know English but I enjoy your videos everytime THX!

[@mwstudios11]

I'm still in early HR missions but watching this just makes me even more hyped up to get to MR/Iceborne content.

[@baggadonuttsop5049]

Minato 'RaiJin' Namikaze what do you play on?

[@Scorchlette]

Over one year later, and the Alatreon Dominator really is a dominator- not for speedruns, but for so many other things (Safi/Kulve sieges, Extremoth, Alatreon/Guilding Lands farming...) It's probably become my new favourite LBG.

[@NougatNate]

the other day I was with a random group I finally slayed alatreon an I used this LBG, And It wasn’t even fully upgraded yet, so Yeah I’d say alatreon LGB is now up there as one of the best LBGs in world/ iceborne

[@madara3278]

The video format is great

[@TarisRedwing]

Pretty good weapon info. I was wondering how good and why it had rapid drag shot. Also im subbed b/c I really enjoy your funny MHW:IBGW# videos

[@kooltube2]

I am the 75% and also i have subscribed now. lol i've watching a number of your videos and just forgot to subscribe. Main reason being is that your videos show up in my feed anyway.

[@arthur4128]

I love how you talk about the previous Mh games, cuz damages values were pretty differents

[@ajp1282]

I've always wanted to try bowgun/heavy bowgun but didn't know where to start. THIS definitely helped! Thanks TDS!

[@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY]

This is like video game science. High quality channel/video.

[@beardedzeus1337]

Love that you guys pointed out that the Dominator is still a very strong option as it will out damage in the long run with the same ammo count.

[@QuatroMansab]

I was actually just wondering it was high time I got on the TDS Fanwagon when it was mentioned that a lot haven't subscribed. Just cause of that imma hit that button 🤣

[@ethanhenderson3942]

This weapon is going to be the meta for Fatalis farms.

[@muspellgaming]

I liked the video. Although I'll like to point out the build I'm using is so confier that it's a pleasure to play with. I take out all resentment from the build (doesn't make that much of a difference for a non speedrunner anyway) and put health augment on the weapon, put maximum evade extender, speed eating and free meal (still with Safi set and spare shot) my build also have blight resistance lv3, health boost lv3, some recovery ups on the mantles. It's extremely comfy and makes the fight with alatreon a piece of cake Although my set is a bit harsh of decoration, I'm using 3 evade extender/ammo up decos

[@DGSHoshiro]

Reminder: No Uragan was hurt during the recording of this video

[@DeadEye364]

It was destroyed instead

[@Dave_Chrome]

It was Dominator'd

[@tii8946]

At the end Chris is like: Am I a joke to you... HUH?

[@yuzuki0931]

迷場面集は面白いし、検証も早いし、タイトルも字幕も日本語化を頑張ってるし登録する人が増えて欲しいわ

[@oliverdrews460]

Sehr gutes Video!

[@ragnalus-beatboxingwithmon9693]

Thanks for the awesome analysis and builds, TDS_Chris Sir. Although, just being a curious noob here, why are the diamonds near the armor names in rainbow color? What does that mean actually? (Really love the channel's content!)

[@danthedodogama1380]

That's the rainbow armor dye

[@jjr553]

i really felt the 1:17 clip...The good old Helios armor against alatreon. Gosh monster hunter tri was good

[@pianta411]

Bonus shot, the MVP gunner skill on 4G or Ultimate, plz come back 😭

[@coreyfox6744]

There is a skill MHW that gives you an extra shot I think there’s artillery and something else

[@extexc280]

@@coreyfox6744 artillery increase damage to sticky ammo and charge blade phial

[@coreyfox6744]

Ext Exc sorry my bad I haven’t actually used the gun weapons so I wouldn’t really know the skills thanks for the clear up

[@theblackbaron4119]

*BONUS DUCKS!* Sorry wrong game...

[@queen_pingu8929]

What you're after is RazorSharp/Spare shot skill. For melee users it half's sharpness decrease and for gunners it gives them a chance to not use the bullet.

[@solomon9655]

Using dragon rapid shot has done hilarious damage even to monsters not particularly weak to dragon. I like using one or two dragon shots on knockdowns in multiplayer and then switching back to the elemental weakness/placing mines.

[@ComradeBread]

As someone who doesn't care enough about elemental lbg's enough to grind safi or kjarr bowguns, I've been having a great time with this one and running ele builds. If you wanna try out this play style its easier to get than safi or kjarr grinding for every element and I whole heatedly recommend

[@icigo12]

Love you guys

[@mlg720yolo]

That’s sad how 75% of your viewers haven’t even subscribed but you put so much effort into your videos that some people can’t even do.

[@jayhaban3563]

Team Darkside, I miss your safi build series...waiting for the LS builds

[@st.hollow6013]

Imagine having Release/Vitality jewel!! Oh wait I do, have them!!

[@madladchappie4]

That Deus Ex background music tho 👌

[@victorsandoval4827]

1:18 alright who modded Cedeus’ armor into iceborne?? That shit looks insanely good

[@elite625]

That's his armor?! It looks amazing!

[@victorsandoval4827]

Donovan Burns right!!??

[@ledinomaniac9401]

This is the only time me a blademaster since 3U, switched to gunner thank you Alatreon we met with a sword I left with the gun

[@shyplox]

Weak

[@ledinomaniac9401]

@@shyplox John Wick indeed

[@h.d.tjayasanka3166]

Music track used at 4:27 is Deus Ex HR Icarus

[@theanimefreak9145]

hold the weapon on a monster : " Crime Cofficient is 335. Entforcement Mode is Lethal Eleminator" (ANIME- Psycho Pass)

[@painsenpai01]

Oh boi 😀 the Dominator locking target and "Enforcing Judgement"

[@Chronostra]

Oh shit somebody's gonna mod that

[@juliustan9647]

I appreciate the video resolution. I can pinch to zoom and still see all of the video which is awesome. Also I haven't beaten Alatreon *sob*

[@dartheastman1599]

Lol i love your guys point of view. “We lose dps” “disapointed” no longer have this skill” proceed to kill the monster in under 2min. lol your right though for us average players it’s a cool gun none the less.

[@dommeZZZ]

10:47 when you see your favourite Armor of All time in the Background :( Helios please come back as a non-modded Version to iceborne :(

[@spaceman7019]

a video in my native monitor size heaven

[@pappo5583]

do more build videos! They are very entertaining!

[@nalikjohnson4043]

Best tips ever and people still dont know how to press the sub or like button like come on tds family wheres the love for the team

[@kiroumi5307]

This was my first crafted lbg. I used it against Zinogre and felt like it was weak. Only to find out that I'm using this weapon wrong xD I'm really noob at bowguns but I'm interested to learn. Any good suggestions for HBG?

[@AZer-AZure]

This is fire 🔥

[@nathanielnizard2163]

Makes me wanna try bowguns. It's been few days that I'm in end game, kuve taroh and guiding land shit, kind of tired of bouncing monsters into walls and grinding bones :). I play a little bit of bow, it seems a little bit easier to play and more "constant". Bow is kind of harder than my main weapons(horn and ls)

[@zeya211]

Hi TDS! I haven't done the math but it's actually worth to put free element/ammo up to get 1 extra bullet for elemental ammo? Instead of putting extra attack decos? Thank you for the awesome video!

[@handikasaputra3016]

ok fine, i'll subs LOL i felt so attacked when you said that hahaha

[@Wind_Blade_]

Same 😂😂😂 he caught us lurking

[@handikasaputra3016]

@@Wind_Blade_ ikr LOL

[@donseevanny]

Where do you get those amazing thumbnails?

[@darthplagueis13]

I miss Tri when they just let you bring 20 shots of dragon ammo by default (and that's not including the stuff you could combine in the hunt). Sure, it probably had lower damage values, but it was incredibly satisfying to use.

[@NinO12752]

This long became my favourite, but what about the power barrel mod, is it worth taking it over a recoil or reload mod?

[@GenshinLover283]

Jesus, that Uragaan got the Great Jagras treatment lol

[@aberoththebushudodragon4526]

If i'm not mistaken, Safi's Drakshot was the first LBG in world to rapid Dragon shots not Dominator

[@adamz09]

That deus ex trailer song always hits different

[@imacat4053]

Waw im surprised too. U guys gaving us so much info since older mh series and only 25% of us suscribed. Lol

[@danielantonino3580]

Chris, I'm fairly sure Dragon RF is not the only one to ignore Recoil mods, the same applies to Sticky 2 RF, another one that fires 2 shots instead of 3.

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

At first I thought you said "in monster hunter history" and I was about to come down here and fire off a correction HOLD IT! You could get a silencer on LBG that would lower recoil.

[@DragonGunzs]

you know what? Fine, ill subscribe, you've earned it

[@_Tzer]

Alatreon dominator is nuts for applying elderseal.

[@mazi_touhu7733]

詳しい解説、とても助かる

[@e7r0m6]

Hi, thanks for the video! Is it worth using 3 parts of Safi and 2 parts of Velk in order to get Element bonus, or running 5 parts of Safi gives more DPS?

[@zanbamon4162]

5 piece safi is always better because (1) the velkhana armor is really bad and (2) the kjarr weapons are better in most cases due to free critical element making it pointless to get crit element or true crit element set bonus. Once AT Velkhana is released then 3 safi 2 velk may be enough to push some Safi weapons over the kjarr.

[@fastaskirby2414]

If you have good jewel inventory, I would recommend you get the armor set which allow you to carry better and more skills. Safi skill is a bad idea unless all you want is dps and carting occasionally.

[@beansfebreeze]

Can we talk about how good this video looks in 19:9?

[@user-ux6su9gm6y]

Nice teamwork！ 日本語上手いしこれからも日本人視聴者増えると思うよ！！

[@Sunless1337]

Going from 2 to 3 shots is a 50% increase, what he meant is that the third shot then accounts for 33% of the new total damage.

[@sethfakelastname]

Perhaps the extra shot doesn’t actually increase your damage by 50% as that would be quite a lot

[@M1773ns]

Bit of a necro sorry, but the shots after the first shot only deal half damage. Imagine the 2 shots would be 100 damage. first shot would be 66.67. second shot would be 33.33. if you got a third shot your total damage would be 133.33 so an increase of 33%

[@xMtF54x]

Man i just got to safi jiva lmao i cant wait to get one of thess to farm monsters lmao

[@user-uy4qe5rc9h]

Didn't expect for the viewer chart, LOL

[@darthplagueis13]

The ironic thing is of course that the Alatreon dominator may be used to dominate Alatreon as it has all the elements. This of course means that most importantly, you aren't entirely screwed if you fail to break a horn in the second stage.

[@ashurad_fox5991]

This weapon: exist me who uses all weapons but likes lbg for mobility, elemental attacks/rapid and status ailments: "ah yes, it's all coming together!" All the rathalos/rathian in mhw:IB: *chuckles* I'm in danger

[@NonRandomUser]

Bonus Shot is truly amazing in MH3U.

[@bi-wq9cd]

アルドミナの利点は 1本作ってカスタムするだけで 全属性使えるお手軽さだと思ってる。 抗菌武器はカスタムが重すぎるから…

[@user-xs6tn6sq6x]

せやな加えていうのなら 龍紋装備かエスカドラを装備するだけである程度の火力が保証されてるところかな

[@user-vw4cp9ng2z]

現状はアルバよりミラボの方が上回っていますか？武器の話です！