MHWI | MRマム片手剣の話 | MR Kulve SnS Meta Change [ENG SUB]

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ZenCieh

ZenCieh

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@ZenCieh
@ZenCieh 4 жыл бұрын
追記:防具について「ほとんど使われることはない」と言ってますが、火力を求めた場合であって他の目的があるなら使っても全然良いと思います(そもそも防具のチョイスは他人がどうこう言う様なものではないですが!) それから、ガイラスライサー系と覚醒爆破の比較で、無属性強化について言及するのを忘れていましたが、それを考慮しても覚醒爆破の方が良いという結論は変わりません。 柱を殴ってみればわかりますが、一応根拠を置いておきます。各種バフや切れ味補正その他諸々を考慮すると、覚醒爆破がガイラスライサー水(ガイラの中で一番物理が高い)を上回るのに必要な加算バフをxとして (310+x) * 1.39 > ((300+5+8) * 1.05 + x) * 1.32 310: 覚醒武器の武器倍率 1.39: 紫ゲの物理補正 (300+5+8) * 1.05: 無属性強化を含むガイラ水の武器倍率, 8と5はそれぞれパーツ強化とカスタム強化 1.32: 白ゲの物理補正 これを解くとx > 49 となります。これは飯種粉塵護符爪たけで達成できてしまう上、覚醒の方には爆破やその他属性もつきます(・ω・`) Forgot to mention non-elemental boost in the comparison between Taroth Slicer and Safi weapon, but the conclusion wouldn't change even if I took count of that, based on math stuff I wrote above. I'm gonna skip the detail but to summarize, Safi weapon is stronger even without considering its blast or other element if you get the attack buff above 49. This number can be reached only with meal, Powercharm and talon, Might seed, and Demon powder. You can easily get it by attacking the pillar in training area.
@チャロ-n2u
@チャロ-n2u 4 жыл бұрын
やっぱりバフ含めた全体に倍率がかかる紫ゲージの力は大きいですね ガイラ水で紫出たら完璧だったのに……
@Ersb99
@Ersb99 4 жыл бұрын
Thank u Soo much for ur content
@masakoakashittv
@masakoakashittv 4 жыл бұрын
PSN ID ?
@randomperson6324
@randomperson6324 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the subs!
@ronsinsane
@ronsinsane 4 жыл бұрын
I was just about to ask this before I saw your comment. Thanks for all your hard work.
@kkun8879
@kkun8879 4 жыл бұрын
quite refreshing to see JP channel to have english subs, definitely following for this :D
@hungrydave
@hungrydave 4 жыл бұрын
That helmbreaker to finish off KT was so satisfying! Great content as always!
@PipePlazaStudios
@PipePlazaStudios 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for subtitling all your videos! I'm also quite in love with this update, fully customizing how you look makes casual hunting a lot more fun.
@InsomniaJiU-0517
@InsomniaJiU-0517 4 жыл бұрын
Oh dang... my fren recommend me your channel since i love to use sns... your voice is so relaxing to listen and so informative. Thanks!
@mistergoose69
@mistergoose69 4 жыл бұрын
Really love your content zen! Thanks for english sub as always
@simplysaphi
@simplysaphi 4 жыл бұрын
Very very big thanks for not only subing your videos but also providing all build screenshots in english too, i bet it all is annoying and takes a lot of time. big thanks, great video
@SAGOO-g3f
@SAGOO-g3f 4 жыл бұрын
めんどくさい計算全部やってくれてるのありがたいですね。ただマム防具で明らかにきょぬーになることについて言及がないので是非お願いします。
@Kaneisvan137
@Kaneisvan137 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where I can found the hit value breakdown he used in this video? on 2:12 the sever , impact , and element value thingy
@Wilson-rm4lx
@Wilson-rm4lx 4 жыл бұрын
check out kiranico
@Rathadude
@Rathadude 4 жыл бұрын
Really happy that elemental SnS is viable now. It was starting to feel like the meta was moving closer and closer to just pure raw for most weapons. Glad we're getting more variation.
@theschachter9816
@theschachter9816 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to really dig into the nuances of the matter, as always!
@トイレのスティーブ
@トイレのスティーブ 4 жыл бұрын
片手剣を使っている身からするとZenさんの動画がとても分かりやすく詳しく教えていただけるのでとても参考になります^ ^
@Sorrelhas
@Sorrelhas 4 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the return of Kulve Taroth has rekindled a flame for the MHW community. When I started playing back in April of last year, people had a very low opinion on KT, yet now that she's in MR, everyone is losing their shit. That's very surprising, but still wholesome nonetheless. Also, amazing video, my man.
@wakkie0314
@wakkie0314 4 жыл бұрын
確かに何でもFBジャスラじゃなくて、モンスターごとに属性変えて旋回ループで戦えるの楽しそうですね!いつもためになる動画ありがとうございます!
@Mr-mu5jb
@Mr-mu5jb 4 жыл бұрын
最近片手剣を始めたので知りたいこと全部説明してくれてありがたい・・・
@uka94_entta11
@uka94_entta11 4 жыл бұрын
ナカーマ アンイシュワルダのぶっ飛ばしをしたいのにやっぱ野良は....え?友達とやれ?モンハン持ってないんだよ....ヘ(ё)ヘ
@iamkmkm41ibb
@iamkmkm41ibb 4 жыл бұрын
pretty nice to have this chance to see your new video
@darkela5
@darkela5 4 жыл бұрын
Love the subtitles, Thanks for the guide!
@SSCypher
@SSCypher 4 жыл бұрын
zen sensei, iwatched all ur videos and i enjoy u the most for monster hunter iceborne. since u give the best explanation and answer all the doubt in my mind everytime. Though if u can explain other weapons as well it will be very nice
@trahernmh2255
@trahernmh2255 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, my brother likes to use SnS and i been showing him your videos... And to tell the truth he improved in the way he plays and you also got me to try SnS too, thank you! 😁
@andrey8140
@andrey8140 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou very much,such detailed information.love all of your content👍👍👍
@at-smile
@at-smile 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the content especially with the subs.
@TheXavierfull
@TheXavierfull 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! i was waiting for your video.
@moru_zura
@moru_zura 4 жыл бұрын
補足含めすごくわかりやすかったです。ありがとうございます😆
@pematsewang5914
@pematsewang5914 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Zen San for the amazing video. o7
@mrnelsonius5631
@mrnelsonius5631 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve fully upgraded and augmented the Kjarr water and fire SNS. But i augmented fully for raw damage and health regeneration. Don’t forget that Kjarr weapons can take “custom upgrades” on top of regular augments. Took A LOT of mats but those two weapons are at Safi levels of raw now and have a ton of element too. Not sure if Ice will be worth it because of the lower raw. But I’m gonna find out so have some more grinding to do 🙃
@brightsuperstition
@brightsuperstition 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the English subtitles! You just got a subscriber!
@REamamiya
@REamamiya 4 жыл бұрын
弓双剣強化してるんで手は出せてなかったんですが疑問が全て解消されました 素晴らしい検証です
@ねこぱんち-y7y
@ねこぱんち-y7y 4 жыл бұрын
片手剣にわかですが現環境が数値に基いて解説なされててすごく参考になりました!
@costa0119
@costa0119 4 жыл бұрын
知りたいことがすべてわかりました!! ありがとうございます! 3回くらいチャンネル登録しました!
@astralboi
@astralboi 4 жыл бұрын
im so deep in doubt about the elememt damage which doesnt seems useful most of the time but now i know the diiferent between them . thanks for this useful content and the eng subs =)
@phoenix19930217
@phoenix19930217 4 жыл бұрын
very nice video as always! thank you Zen!
@jyr0850
@jyr0850 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much this is very informative!
@きつねうどん-g5z
@きつねうどん-g5z 4 жыл бұрын
TOPレベルの片手剣使いの方の意見が聞けて良かったです!参考にさせて頂きます!
@nielr6922
@nielr6922 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This made my grind a little easier.
@HaseoXth
@HaseoXth 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, I feel they make me a better hunter! XD. Keep it up!
@three_o_two
@three_o_two 4 жыл бұрын
I'm happy for the update too. It feels just like the old time AT KT gave us elemental options when everyone was using non-elemental melee weapons. Maybe we'll see if Kjarr Dragon weapons are effective to Alatreon or other monsters to come.
@welshmonsterhunter7028
@welshmonsterhunter7028 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work bro
@DTPandemonium
@DTPandemonium 4 жыл бұрын
Yooo love this channel. Yes I figured element would still be weaker than raw if you use the usual rush combo since element just applies flat damage. I'll still upgrade the kjarrs for the meme infinite combo against monsters like deviljho if I feel like playing that way.
@xXLucWuvXx
@xXLucWuvXx 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for these videos
@ふるふる-q2j
@ふるふる-q2j 4 жыл бұрын
zenさんのマム武器評価ずっと待ってましたー
@sirvarg8658
@sirvarg8658 4 жыл бұрын
@Zen Very informative video, as always. Did you try out how the kjarr slicers perform if you augment and custom mod them for full raw damage? Because in this video you went either full raw or full element. I'm not just simply talking about damage on paper with numbers, but rather because even with full raw SnS builds you use sword combos too to some extend not just pr and fb, so I figured full raw on kjarr slicers might suit your playstyle more and perhaps get you better clear times🤔
@minimaleffortname2758
@minimaleffortname2758 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the subtitles
@ittaiak1246
@ittaiak1246 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and amazing music!!!
@pikkuappo
@pikkuappo 4 жыл бұрын
割合で見るとJRの差より旋回ループの差その方が大きいし、 傷バフ込みなことも考えると考えると並ハンには安定して火力出せる皇金のほうが良さそう 龍脈覚醒は火力がどうこうというよりは回避性能が盛りやすいことや傷なしでも高会心を維持できる所が重要ですね
@leonkenedy4616
@leonkenedy4616 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing the info.
@qwksilver22
@qwksilver22 4 жыл бұрын
Can you list builds for Kjarr weapons meta?
@Maakhal
@Maakhal 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, mate.
@ユガリ
@ユガリ 4 жыл бұрын
liked for that tokyo xanadu bgm
@HenjinVanillaSUN8263
@HenjinVanillaSUN8263 4 жыл бұрын
マム武器はさすがにある程度は片手使いの人の意見聞いた方がいいなと思ってたんで助かりました 知りたいことも知れて嬉しいです、ありがとうございます
@leozig3501
@leozig3501 4 жыл бұрын
I think a video on the fire element Kjarr would be nice, it has 10 more raw than the water but 9 less element, a Kirin hunt I guess. We need more testing, maybe custom upgrading for raw instead of element closes PR and FB gap? This update is nice, so many options.
@ただのススキ-t1z
@ただのススキ-t1z 4 жыл бұрын
今回も参考になりました、ありがとうございます まぁでもマム防具手はナナマルチの支援装備とかなら良いかもですし、腰と足とか個別で使うなら悪くないかなというのが個人的な意見ですね
@azumi7361
@azumi7361 4 жыл бұрын
参考になりました〜!
@Mezgostream
@Mezgostream 4 жыл бұрын
try to test the taroth slicer fire with hidden elemental activated and silver rathalos set, apparently is more powerful than kjarr slicer fire in safijiiva set
@末次剛-q4x
@末次剛-q4x 4 жыл бұрын
検証ありがとうございます 幻だけ作りましたが物理構成より強いのかどうか分からず 自分よりも詳しい方の情報を待っていました 私の腕で仮想敵のテオ相手ならFBやJSは全体の攻撃の3、40%程度だと思うので 風漂を作ろうと思います!
@midnightshout69
@midnightshout69 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Kjarr slicer blast could be better on monsters weak to blast because of the Critical Status effect?
@coolorochi
@coolorochi 4 жыл бұрын
What about upgrade KT weapon raw damage, rather than elemen? update: I builded water sns same as yours master touch set, but argument for all raw. Lateral Slash:169 JR: 2277 I guess it don't make meaningful deference
@kanatatanaka2100
@kanatatanaka2100 4 жыл бұрын
検証大変参考になりました 今まではムフェト一式って敬遠してたのですが、皇金の登場で変わりましたね! 私は護石で逆恨み5を付ける運用にしてます 切れ味短い問題は、今のキレアジ釣りのイベクエでヒレを集めて解決!w
@CcNuggetz
@CcNuggetz 4 жыл бұрын
Zen, have you try taken account that Taroth can also equip the elementless deco?
@KyonV13
@KyonV13 4 жыл бұрын
imo, I'm pretty sure they would end up the same because in the Blast SnS' case, you're trading that extra raw attack for the Blast procs you would have gotten.
@CcNuggetz
@CcNuggetz 4 жыл бұрын
@@KyonV13 That makes sense. I forgot that Safi and Brachy had blast.
@DruidaLove
@DruidaLove 4 жыл бұрын
It's 15 extra true raw but white sharpness 🤷
@randomnpc445
@randomnpc445 4 жыл бұрын
Without anything else factored in, Non-elemental boost would be 300 true raw (displayed as 420) with a 5% boost, coming to 415 effective raw, after applying the sharpness modifier. Compare this to even the Critical Brachy SnS, which also has 420 displayed raw but purple sharpness as well. This gives you 417 effective raw (after the sharpness modifier), and you don't have to use up a decoration slot for a skill. Very similar numbers, but there's not much reason to choose it over the Crit. Brachy SnS. Not even for aesthetic purposes thanks to layered weapons.
@JpegDog
@JpegDog 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can use Safi’jiiva armor for all of them if you use protective polish?
@TheCJOHNSON93
@TheCJOHNSON93 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!!
@ghostserver2927
@ghostserver2927 4 жыл бұрын
Mata subarashii video, arigatou gozaimasu sensei
@嘘は事実に勝てない
@嘘は事実に勝てない 4 жыл бұрын
新武器で悩んでいたのですが、片手剣に決めました
@TheTorridestCheese
@TheTorridestCheese 4 жыл бұрын
まってました!
@prod.arcsyne2990
@prod.arcsyne2990 4 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite anime. Best studio on youtube. The voice acting is amazing
@asron007
@asron007 4 жыл бұрын
The man, keep it up
@alakazam1102
@alakazam1102 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. But do you have support build ?
@lunarezlycablood1838
@lunarezlycablood1838 4 жыл бұрын
Does this mean elemental would be better on monsters that has good weakness on element and don't leave much opportunity to Perfect Rush? since you'll be using more of the faster slash combo instead of PR. Also thank you for you insight Zen!
@kirizanai8383
@kirizanai8383 4 жыл бұрын
Then the new meta in SnS is.... Kaiser+Brachy with any Kjarr SnS with elementals or Full Safi with any Kjarr SnS Element ??
@bupple5169
@bupple5169 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Zen, Whats about when you augment the Kjarr Weapons for Raw? Like you have a High Raw water Kjarr SnS with Teostra/ Brachydios Set, would that be better against silver rathalos? Because he is like immune to blast
@masakoakashittv
@masakoakashittv 4 жыл бұрын
5:55 how u do that move ?
@Raptchur
@Raptchur 4 жыл бұрын
On any wall you can run up, just go up to it and press triangle + circle (PS4), y+b (XBOX)
@lucifer-ygo9793
@lucifer-ygo9793 4 жыл бұрын
what is with Non-Elemental Boost for taroth water?
@pawerrrrrrr
@pawerrrrrrr 4 жыл бұрын
マムの装備は脚だけブラキαであとは攻撃スキル盛ったら、攻撃くらってもすぐ回復薬飲んでフルチャ維持さしたら楽しいですよ! 満腹極意と早食いでガバガバ飲んでも回復薬減らんからね 見た目がいいから狩りも楽しいですし
@onlypracticew9492
@onlypracticew9492 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you much sensei
@優璃白縹
@優璃白縹 4 жыл бұрын
皇金武器をカスタムは回復攻撃パーツは攻撃極ぶりの場合はどうなるんですか?気になります!!皇金王は物理も高いので気になりました!良ければ教えてください!!(´;ω;`)
@simplysaphi
@simplysaphi 4 жыл бұрын
small mispell at 6:40 "layed weapons ^w^
@anaara7866
@anaara7866 4 жыл бұрын
テオだと爆破や火やられになることが多いので災禍転覆が利用できて抗菌水との相性は結構いい気がします シミュを回してみた感じJRはトータルでは物理覚醒ですけどフィニッシュに関してはマム武器の方が強くなることもある感じですかね
@俺のケツ見て落ち着け
@俺のケツ見て落ち着け 4 жыл бұрын
柱殴って見たけど、属性のほうがダメージ出たよ
@彗星マイケル
@彗星マイケル 4 жыл бұрын
片手剣の壁使った攻撃ってあんなに多段ヒットするんか
@tsumiki0649
@tsumiki0649 4 жыл бұрын
王ネロは水剥がしにくくなってるとしたら抗菌が最適解になりそうですね、というわけで次はネロに抗菌火で行く動画待ってます
@ヤマモト-n5b
@ヤマモト-n5b 4 жыл бұрын
皇金片手剣の動画待ってました! 皇金属性片手の装備組むとしたらラヴィーナ外してカイザーとブラキなんですかね?
@shineYouTube160
@shineYouTube160 4 жыл бұрын
抗菌はフルムフェトとムフェトブラキ
@Edno07
@Edno07 4 жыл бұрын
Great vídeo
@hawk4558
@hawk4558 4 жыл бұрын
Does this mean that we can build meta sets around basic slashing ie triangle and circle combos?
@Awlansee
@Awlansee 4 жыл бұрын
Elemental does more with basic slashes. But raw will do more with pb combo
@モモンガミサイル
@モモンガミサイル 4 жыл бұрын
比較計算のJRの数値ってJRの属性補正込みですかね だとしたらなんか寂しいなあ
@Bombahh1
@Bombahh1 4 жыл бұрын
Zen San, release video for SnS move and combo tutorial please.
@onlypracticew9492
@onlypracticew9492 4 жыл бұрын
notbombah he has video search it
@noahfu4850
@noahfu4850 4 жыл бұрын
Why using elemental upgrades rather than attack? I think critical element (1.35) is lower than critical boost (1.4)
@tsumiki0649
@tsumiki0649 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is because the increase rate of critical element is higher than critical boost lv3. It makes *1.25 critical damage *1.4, which means it increases the damage by 12%, while critical element increases by 35% (when the affinity is 100%). This is why elemental upgrades can deal more damages than raw.
@らむね-d6e
@らむね-d6e 4 жыл бұрын
待ってた
@JONtheULTIMATE
@JONtheULTIMATE 4 жыл бұрын
Who the hell are you and why is YT giving me your videos now? their algorithm is messed up, this is the stuff I NEED! Damn it YT.
@actionpants9794
@actionpants9794 4 жыл бұрын
Does the kjarr slicer “sleep” and “poison” not exist or are they too terrible to be worth mentioning? Because I assumed they exist because I wanted a new sleep sns however I haven’t found them yet after a lot of melding
@まんじゅう-x7v
@まんじゅう-x7v 4 жыл бұрын
皇金火をカスタム強化、パーツ強化全部攻撃にして 防具も属性いれないで攻撃全振りにしたらトレモの物理有利な柱に対してJRでも覚醒武器上回ったんですけど あり?
@俺のケツ見て落ち着け
@俺のケツ見て落ち着け 4 жыл бұрын
抗菌水でカスタム強化なしでやってみたけど溜め斬り含むFBのダメージが覚醒武器を上回ったわ。旋回ループとかのダメージを考えると属性のほうが火力出ると思う。
@まんじゅう-x7v
@まんじゅう-x7v 4 жыл бұрын
体力3とひるみ軽減入れて属性6にしようとしたら会心がちょっと足りないのよね... とりあえずムフェトの上位互換?だから物理盛り皇金で我慢
@Yuchen-q5x
@Yuchen-q5x 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@anzoo5218
@anzoo5218 4 жыл бұрын
練習するときのモンスターのお勧めとかいますか?
@mr.yoshifumi3789
@mr.yoshifumi3789 4 жыл бұрын
頭の大きいモンスターで練習したほうが良いと思います。私の場合は、最初からプケプケ(亜種も含む)で慣れるまで練習して、それからテオテスカトルにチェンジします
@トイレのスティーブ
@トイレのスティーブ 4 жыл бұрын
バクステの練習はティガ二種がオススメ
@ericsalcedo8756
@ericsalcedo8756 4 жыл бұрын
The SnS God has spoken :v
@drunkerkiai
@drunkerkiai 4 жыл бұрын
仮想敵をテオとしたとき皇金水をパーツ、カスタム強化を攻撃に全振りしたとき覚醒より誤差程度で火力出る気がしますね笑わからんけど笑
@nonamenoname4663
@nonamenoname4663 4 жыл бұрын
物理盛りも無撃が乗るのでマムの方が強くないですか?
@nann7158
@nann7158 4 жыл бұрын
無属性強化は1.05倍、切れ味ゲージが白から紫になった時の切れ味補正が1.05倍ですからここで引き分けになると思います そこから3スロと4スロの差(ガイラ武器に無撃珠をつけるならスロなしと4スロの差に)があり、 おまけに爆破もついてます
@nonamenoname4663
@nonamenoname4663 4 жыл бұрын
Nann 紫でしたね!忘れてました。 確かにそれならムフェトの方が良さそうですねー
@ZenCieh
@ZenCieh 4 жыл бұрын
固定コメントの方に追記しました! 残念ながら覚醒武器の方が(爆破や他の属性を抜きにしても)ほとんど強いです(・ω・`)
@boobastronomy7229
@boobastronomy7229 4 жыл бұрын
片手剣やったことないけどどんな武器?たのしい?
@toriskymi1206
@toriskymi1206 4 жыл бұрын
片手剣使いじゃないけど見てます
@ルコマー
@ルコマー 4 жыл бұрын
この人の喋り方好き
@shineYouTube160
@shineYouTube160 4 жыл бұрын
物理肉質80もある柱を殴ったら、盾攻撃以外全部抗菌水のほうが火力高くなったんだけどなんでやろか。しかも、抗菌水はカスタム強化なし
@kanatatanaka2100
@kanatatanaka2100 4 жыл бұрын
詳しい肉質は忘れましたが、あの柱は属性肉質もモンスター相手ではあり得ないくらい柔らかいからだと思いますよ 黒いタルが一番硬いので、柱より黒タル斬ってみたほうが実感しやすいです
@俺のケツ見て落ち着け
@俺のケツ見て落ち着け 4 жыл бұрын
@@kanatatanaka2100 属性肉質は30だからテオとか金銀夫婦など結構いるよ。物理肉質がめちゃくちゃ柔らかいんやで
@あぽろ-x2t
@あぽろ-x2t 4 жыл бұрын
皇金爆破...うーんワンチャン覚醒武器出る前に強かったウルムーアーミンみたいな運用とかはどうなんですかね?
@俺のケツ見て落ち着け
@俺のケツ見て落ち着け 4 жыл бұрын
アルバで使えそう
@zeilix167
@zeilix167 4 жыл бұрын
I wish zen do it solo aswell
@gramshift8127
@gramshift8127 4 жыл бұрын
BGMあつい!
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