Why Gundam: Requiem for Vengeance falls short

[@BigMicahC]

If you guys still want that Vampire Hunter D video, the link to sign up for Black Rhapsody Volume 2 is in the description. 25 more sign-ups!

[@maxthetrickster8300]

Are you guys still doing the old books from before the whole PayPal thing? I backed Inglewood and 3 knights volume 2 as well as the novel you were doing before all that happened and I’m wondering earnestly if I should’ve asked for a refund. I don’t want to come off as angry or accusatory, I’m just genuinely curious since you don’t seem to talk about them anymore.

[@26th_Primarch]

Hey Micah, I have a question: If you had the opportunity to create your own Gundam series, what would you do?

[@BigMicahC]

@@maxthetrickster8300 You're good dude. We're still doing everything. I just got in shipping materials for Englewood Book 2 a couple days ago and I'm gonna start getting more books printed in the next couple months. After that's done, production resumes on Three Knights in the new year, and in between all that I'll be shipping the novellas.

[@hallowsoul2722]

Side thought play gundam crossfire and you might appreciate the show more just a suggestion

[@ACCB710]

Good sir you must please let us know the source of that godly music at the end it is about some of the best sounds i have ever heard​@@BigMicahC

[@A_Simple_Zock]

At least we got to see the Gouf Custom again

[@MrDarksol]

Indeed because I was pretty happy to see that mobile suit come back.

[@vinnyvanhoe5614]

I see my gouf custom everyday that I spent hours painting and modeling. One of my favorite designs in gundam. Could care less about them putting it in a show to get member berries activated

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

the Gouf Custom is the MS that looks most like the original and a lot of people say it is the best looking MS in the show. If only the Federation and Zeon MS actually look like MS instead of being changed so the animators can flex at their horrible redesigns.

[@Godzilla00X]

Zeon gassed people, dropped a colony a major city, and then invaded earth like aliens. The feddies are in no way saints but come on lol even the devil gundam isnt that evil

[@Squiggles01]

I've been saying that for so long!

[@jessebutler5337]

I did really like how the Gundam was made to feel like a daemon hunting them in that first episode…

[@Endar0]

The point in gundam was there isn't really a "good" side.

[@themanofmovies8104]

​@@Endar0 but the zeons are honestly the shittier of the two

[@BlueLightning12]

@@themanofmovies8104 Yeah, the Zeon side dropped a colony, but the Federation as a whole was way more corrupt than the Zabi family was, and for a lot, lot longer. I mean jeez, they killed the very first Federation president at the literal UC Inauguration ceremony because they wanted to clamp down on the Colonies with an Iron fist. The Federation set in motion the events that would lead to the One Year War and everything that followed at the very birth of the government.

[@AzraelThanatos]

My theory about the ending is that someone at Netflix doesn't understand Gundam and wanted a "more upbeat" ending...which leads to something that is even more disturbing if you consider where she's actually heading but, on the surface, seems like a potential thing there. Really getting irritated with the P-Bandai crap for 5 of the Zakus...at least we know that the Gouf and, probably, the GM are getting kits...and, maybe, the Magella

[@smolmage316]

Dont forget the ground type guntank

[@ebindelgado9660]

I made a review on Reddit with similar points, but one that drove me nuts is how little characters in the Federation are there. I get that it's a Zeon focused show, but it lacked the message of "there good and bad people on both sides of the war"

[@dy031101]

Trying to prevent child soldiers from happening again by prolonging conflict on Earth. Jesus. I can appreciate that the showrunners were already facing an uphill battle trying to make a likable character lineup, but that ending singlehandedly made me a more-ardent Zeon hater coming away from the show than coming in lol

[@TomHuynh-x9l]

We as the audience know of the tragic future of UC. It does not help when the problems of colonial exploitation and crackdowns by the federation continues, which helps Zeon Remnants recruitment drive. Accelerated more with the Titans. Also the cyber newtype labs and the various attempts of perfecting the Exam system be kid friendly. Solari being ignorant of her side using child soldiers and thinking the Federation is the ultimate evil that is a threat to her son and many other kids is the on brand tragedy of Gundam. This franchise is a combo of weak hope, heart breakers and mind fucks. Plus she dodged several massive bullets by staying on Earth. Solomon and Abao Qu were shit storms that I doubt even a newtype especially on the Zeon side could survive.

[@ChristainMecha]

They made the characters as dislikeable as possible. On purpose to demoralize those of us they still can.

[@carlll6101]

If it was classically animated no one would beat an eye. There is a lost of stupid shit characters tell is the anime. I think it's more visible here because is more realistic 3D animation and suspension of disbelieve don't dumb out our brains so much. But that stuff as 100% anime speak. And 100% on brand for Gundam in universe characters.

[@extremel.z.s3140]

I'm only a Zeon supporter (at best very shaky) because of the MS drip and uniform drip. But since the Feddies have both... And a better ideology than Zeon... Yeahhh idk man it's pretty obvious which is better

[@AzureRoseMarshal]

⁠@@extremel.z.s3140I still think it was absolutely goofy that even the average grunt has a bright yellow crosshair on their uniform just asking to be shot, with a steel helmet in the future, while their officers wear epaulets and an even more “shoot me” uniform. Though tbf the federation isn’t any better with its black and red

[@mitchellbambam5926]

I see the show as a 7/10. Just short of being really good, but far from bad. The crew did a lot a homework on the lore and tone, but there’s a handful of issues most of which come from it being made now, instead of back when the OYW timeline wasn’t as filled to the brim. The show really should’ve taken place at ten very start of the GM’s mass production. The MS all look incredible as well, and as you said the action is pretty well done with such a good finale. Each episode has at least one scene that made me so glad I kept watching. So does it fit in well? No, but it’s great if taken on its own.

[@TomHuynh-x9l]

The problem with RFV it requires massive amount of UC lore to make sense of context and even the ending. We have to keep in mind the characters in universe are ignorant of the terrible future to come. The MSV, art books, and Side stories be giving plenty of world building with a bit retcon to make sense. Code Fairy reveal M particles and the distance between Earth and Space makes communication extremely slow especially reporting the discovery of Fed MS to Zeon HQ in space. The Johnny Ridden MSV manga reveal the Feds centralized their command at Jaburo and the chaotic colony drop combine with M particles made most of the Earth forces isolated and struggling to organize resistance. Both Zeonic front and MS igloo 2 show this disorganized side of the Feds as isolated units fought via costly guerrilla warfare to stall Zeon to a stalemate. Operation Javlin and Trident in the Mediterranean and Middle Eastern Theater has the Feds deployed guntanks in May to conduct quick guerrilla warfare and disappeared. MS 08th team has the Feds deploying limited numbers of MS since the summer in the isolated and dense jungles of Asia to explained the combat experience and consumption of limited v project parts. Operations Odessa was a massive organized assault of tanks, aircraft, infantry, and artillery against Zeon’s defenses. The limited amount of MS during Operation Odessa was used mostly as rear line defense/support, special assault operations, and hunting down stragglers. Even in October, the vanilla GM was deployed in limited numbers on certain fronts and didn’t become widespread until after the Jaburo assault in late November. To end my case, Zeon was fucked not just because of the colony drop, but when they set foot on Earth. A small rebel army in a massive foreign land, outnumbered, and lacking resources. If it wasn’t for the MS and M particles, Zeon would not have fought the Feds to a stalemate. Hell, the M particle be double edged that basically cut off communication with their forces that they were literally trapped within the gravity well and worsen post Odessa.

[@jaegerbomb269]

I wish the Federation got more love. I'm tired of Zeon propaganda. Yet again, the true villains of the UC timeline is Anaheim Electronics.

[@Squiggles01]

Yeah, they are the ones who were attacked by spacenoids and yet we are supposed to believe that the Federation, who were the ones to first head into space and help fund and construct the colonies are the bad guys because some retcon in a box that should have never been added to the UC timeline ((If you ask me.))! Good thing the Federation got their own r&d branch! And it's alot better then AE!

[@darkkira1332]

More like a Zabi propaganda, Originally, Zeon Dekum wanted a more equal treatment of spacenoids with earthnoids...then he started talking about human evolution through migration towards space...which is later narratively twisted by the Zabis as another reason why "spacenoids are superior than earthnoids" as part of their justification for war together with the whole independence thing. I cannot stress this enough, Fck the Zabis(except Dozle he's cool) and Fck Anaheim.

[@supergeno128ds]

I'd love to see a story following the Federation side but with zero or minimal "Gundam" involvement- like Rise From the Ashes and the White Dingo Team. Give the feddies a time to shine! GIVE ME A PROTAGONIST IN A GM!

[@Squiggles01]

​@@supergeno128ds Rise from the Ashes Anime when?

[@dylanwight5764]

The ending could have been redeemed by instead of Iria stick around as a Zeon soldier, she becomes a guard for the International Red Cross analogue.

[@Kodiie]

I was thinking a similar thing but instead maybe going into politics. Some unexplored ground for the franchise.

[@youridiot898]

Close enough, welcome back MS Igloo

[@malekiththewitchking2799]

My biggest issue with the show is with most other OYW series. Is the GM getting bodied again, I am tired of seeing it.

[@kindlingking]

But GMs are super tough in this thow though? They take a ton of beating, including heathawk at the face and multiple zaku machinegun magazines and still function. GM only gets bodied when fighting Gundam, which is appropriate.

[@thomasreagor1706]

Personally, i enjoyed RfV. I didn't have high expectations for this series when it was announced. If anything... I was like, "Damn, Bandai was letting the west try their hands at a Gundam project again." Lol This was better than G-Savior, the other western led Gundam effort. This was better than MS Igloo 2 but not as good as MS Igloo. And as far as Gundam shows catered to western/American tastes, this beats the previous attempts (SD Gundam and Doozy Bots) Considering, Netflix's track record with western-led anime adaptations, i expected faaaaar worse.

[@AlexRoivas]

I watched all of MS IGLOO and I even checked out Gundam Evolve. Right after i was done, i watched all of Gundam Requiem for Vengance, and i can say that thr Japanese CG shows are far superior. The fight scenes in Requiem look so bad when the camera scales back and all the MS are right next to each other shooting point blank. Compare the fight scenes in Requiem to MS IGLOO. The character animations and face ankmation in Requiem are inferior to MS IGLOO a show that first came out in 2004. Bandai Namco should have just used the old MS IGLOO team to make a new series in 0083 or in Zeta Gundam. What a waste.

[@scp-1145]

I believe the difference comes from the way they are animated. RfV was using facial and body tracking while the IGLOO did seem to. That would explain why it looked better because the animator was more skilled to not rely on facial tracking. Still, I think it is no excuse for the RfV animator.

[@jasonworlock5113]

This series seemed to cater to people that have never watched a Gundam series from the Universal Century. One the protagonist and one other character seem to be unaffected by the Zeon propaganda. Captain Alfee Zydos is the only one to at least point out that the Zeon soldiers are from space and yet they are on Earth, he doesn't go as far as pointing out that what that means is that Zeon are an invasion force. However, as this is following the Zeon side it isn't a surprise that he would use more positive terminology.

[@Xfushion2]

What I basically got from this is that the show is just a worse version of War in the Pocket: instead of showing the nuances of both factions (Federation and Zeon) with a conflict that ends in tragedy highlighting the pointlessness of war, they just decided to do a _reddit subversion_ of _Zeon are actually the heroes_ Also the fact that the events of the show take place in November 0079, a mere month away for the One Year War's end and somehow the characters don't know what the Gundam is, it's beyond stupid, it's like if they made a show that takes place parallel to the events of the Side 7 invasion and the characters not knowing who Char is.

[@TheCADDGUY]

You don't bring up the fact that the red wolf's took out "3 fleets at the battle of loum" which makes char look like an underachiever Also the fact that the battle of loud only involved 2 fleets there is a lot more bad in this show than good

[@_gungrave_6802]

I would put Gundam Requiem for Vengence in B tier maybe even low A tier because it tells a short simple story without falling into a lot of the same old shit tropes the franchise is known for. I also like that its a short story told only in a couple episodes which makes it one of those rare few gundam IPs that you can recommend to get people into the franchise.

[@ThorneStark]

I kinda want to know the Gundam pilots back story

[@Squiggles01]

Yeah, we never got that. What if the reason why he pilots the Gundam is that the Zeeks killed his parents? Or that he is an orphan before the war and was taken in by the Federation so he had a roof over his head and 3 Square meals a day? We will never know because aside from the main lead, everyone else in her unit spews Zeek scum propaganda and probably things that the third Reich was a good idea!

[@tombombadilofficial]

Fuck him. Nothing special about that little dipshit. He served his purpose.

[@ChristainMecha]

All her OF subscribers got draftees into low positions of the war because men were deemed useless.

[@orionhan2431]

imo, it's ok enough to not disappoint me. I dont want to have the same "nerd argument" again so this is just my opinion. This story is an ALTERNATE version (remake/homage/multiverse) of MS08th. The writer watched that series and wanted to make their own adaptation for WESTERN AUDIENCE. How unlikely is it that people own a pocket watch but it appeared in both. In this world; Odessa happened in a different location, Amuro and the RX-78 doesnt exist, the Feds are lower tech so they just started making GM, one zeon ship survived Odessa as opposed to zero, Apsaras was never built, etc.

[@caselleknoxiv589]

😯Like Thunderbolt.

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

I wonder if Iria was even aware of the Flanagan Institute, Zeon Child Soldiers, and eventually Puru clones. We as the viewer knows because we see the story from an outsider view, the characters in-universe may or may not learn about these things like it's a trivia. That's my opinion of course.

[@HMSleifer94]

Probably not but that doesnt really matter. Zeon still dropped an entire colony on to Earth. She cant really hold the moral high ground after that.

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

@@HMSleifer94 well, there weren't any child soldiers yet by that time. The moral high ground sure is repulsing because she's Zeon after all, but it doesn't change the fact that her misguidance isn't her fault. The colony drop is definitely unjustifiable, but that's how far someone like Iria could be in the know.

[@CYLok]

The ending really spoil the show... If she really wanted to stop the war and have less children sold6she should just surrender and go back to space but she choose to stay at earth and fight on.... What logic is this?

[@callmegeorge]

An explanation for Zeon forces not knowing about the Gundam or GMs could be lack of communication. Maybe the communication among Zeon forces wasn’t exactly great on earth, especially for the more isolated squads, or the rumors of the white devil just didn’t make any sense to them. Maybe the knew that the federation had mobile suits but didn’t know what they looked like. OYW lore is pretty full, but plenty of space for isolated squads as well. We keep getting new units from the time period, and I love it.

[@TomHuynh-x9l]

Agree. In Code Fairy, M particle and communication distance between Earth forces and Zeon HQ in space represent a major delay and even lack of communication. It shows that Zeon Earth troops are trapped in the gravity well and even more so after Odessa as their supply line crumbles and forces are picked off in a massive exodus. In attempts to retcon most side story and MSV lore, the federation has deployed limited amount of MS as early as the Summer of UC in the most isolated battlefields such as North Africa, the Middle East, and central/Southeast Asia.

[@callmegeorge]

@ I actually forgot about Code Fairy, and I feel kinda bad about that. Africa definitely lends itself to more stories, Asia and South America are pretty full of lore. North America has some space left open but I feel that the Midwest plains just doesn’t make for exciting combat.

[@TomHuynh-x9l]

@@callmegeorge if anything the Midwest can be about civilians trying to survive a massive global war. Debris from the colony dropped rained on North America. The colony drop was a chaotic humanitarian disaster added on top of a war continuing.

[@Sargonarhes]

Unlikely, Zeons were encountering GMs in the beginning of the 8th MS Team. Front line Zeons in Southeast Asia had fights with RGM 79 (G) and a few Gundam RX 79 (G)s. The EZ8 was a field custom machine, pretty much made from spare parts. It doesn't even have radiator vents like other Fed mobile suits suggesting a Zeon reactor was used, the EZ8 never used a beam gun. But at this point in the war Zeon already had Doms in the field.

[@callmegeorge]

@ that still doesn’t rule out isolated squads being cutoff from communications. It would be like the colony in ZZ that had essentially went back to nature, aware of stuff existing but not really knowing it.

[@camiloruizcastellar4740]

I actually liked this show but I get your points, still from the perspective of the casual viewer who does not want to learn dates or even watch any other shows, it works, probably thats the target demographic and there is the root of the incohearance, probably you are very right with the character defining moments, I did not give a damn about any deaths aside from the ending, maybe I should try it again but the gundam as a scary monster was dope

[@osakaamd7131]

The proud and honorable soldiers of Zeon shall liberate out space from the evil Earth Federation!... Just ignore the space debris that was Side 1, 2, and 4 and the Giant hole that was Sydney, Australia. Oh, and the full-scale invasion of Earth. The issue is that RFV is not terrible, but I'd rather have something like Rise from the Ashes be animated if we are looking for "grounded" Gundam content.

[@Squiggles01]

RFTA anime when?

[@Galvatronover]

10:09 there was still a lot of stuff that needed to be rapped up that ending would have less satisfying

[@michaelconnor1542]

The thing that took me out of the story entirely. It the tatooed thing. She has no business being in a Gundam series and sticks out like a sore thumb.

[@gamacichi]

What tattooed thing?

[@systemshock1139]

​@gamacichi 1bianca has feddie tattoos some in thunderbolt which is UC 2 Haman has pink hair yk who else has a unnormal hair color Kamile a major character in zeta which is also a part of the UC timeline 💀

[@systemshock1139]

​@@gamacichiHailey Arhun the pink haired girl

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

​@@systemshock1139Normally thats a weird no diagetic thing.

[@baochaule9190]

​@@systemshock1139Bianca is actually an important character in Thunderbolt while the Pink tattoo chick is just there doing things. Literally no character development but design like a main character

[@DamitTucker]

The military tactics in the show were absolute shit. Also Characters make the dumbest decisions out of nowhere. I.e. the Gouf pilots when the Gundam drops his shield. Why did you stop firing? How many times does the Gundam have Solari dead to rights, then get distracted by an enemy he could have ignored.

[@f.b.l.9813]

that's one of my pet peeves with most military related anime, they have the tactical and strategic understanding of a 7 year old playing COD.

[@Hunter_Brandon]

All I took away from this is that instead of buying the new models from the show, I should just get another Gouf. I didn’t want to panel line those two anyway.

[@BigMicahC]

Gouf 2.0 and the Gouf Custom are great Master Grades.

[@ZontarDow]

Reminder that Operation British, the gassing of Side 2 and 5 and the Federations retaliatory strikes on Side 3 are what killed half the human race and the remaining 11 months of the war was a rounding error.

[@Wzrd8]

Zeon in the form the Zabis lead was out of sync with the root cause of the people fighting the war and the original ideas of Zeon Daikun. So basically true Contolism has never been tried.

[@shobooknight]

100% of contolists give up just before the colony drop that would fix everything

[@dbKneecapped]

Solari's team deserved their fate in the beginning. The Gundam showed up, explosions everywhere, Solari racing to get to her Zaku, and what do we get when she got there? Those idiots in the process of standing up all confused as if they've just been sitting around while things are blowing up all around them. Would've been better if as she was running for her Zaku, her squad showed up to run interference and engage the Gundam without her only to get bodied before arriving just in time on her MS to save that one guy that survived that first encounter only for herself to get bodies in turn.

[@MrDarksol]

What really angered me the most was when I found out that rather than the woman deciding to go back home and keep her son safe by keeping the memory of that dead child she saw alive...... She instead decides to join the remnants in Africa, never mind the fact that these are the same remnants that are gonna get their butts whooped AFTER the one year war concluded, meaning this woman just made her child an orphan. Mother of the freaking year here. Really the only thing I'm gonna take from this show is the fact that the guy tried to make a gundam show, we got some decent cool mobile suit redesigns( Sadly only 2 of the mobile suits are actually normal releases while the rest are once again PB exclusive) and the fights actually feel like fights. No funnels, no magic nonsense, no kids babbling for 5 minutes about stupid things just people dying and war being an awful awful thing. I would have been fine if the kid did die thus causing the main character to go back to her home but that didn't happen so the writer just had to push and push and push until it gets to a point where I'm screaming stop stop it. Also didn't help that while The mobile suit designs look cool, the human character designs just look so ugly like they should be on a PlayStation 3 or something and while it was cool to see Yuri again, I much preferred him in 8th MS team. In the end I'll give this show a you tried your best but still quite hadn't hit the mark.

[@maddmaxx5337]

Friend!!! Thank you!!! I've been ranting about this to as many people as I can. Thank you for including the horrors of the "exam system". Sadly they keep using kids and teens as pilots to appeal to kids. Was hoping "Witch" would've been more like "Valvrave".

[@DBWave94]

The whole, "Heroes of Loum" really threw me off as well. I was hoping for some tie-in, but no, they're just randomly heroes of Loum despite us never seeing them before or knowing anything about them.

[@TheAnubis21485]

"I will continue fighting for a world where children can know peace" Says the pilot of a faction that refuses to acknowledge that it's lost and will keep sparking wars for the next 20 years.

[@austinreed7343]

20? Technically the last remnants were defeated in UC 0120, and there are those appropriating Zeon as far as 0166 or so.

[@TheAnubis21485]

@austinreed7343 zeon and the elements that would become neo zeon and the sleeves would eventually collapse as an active military force close to UC 99 when Meniva signs side 3 back into the Earth Federation. After that it's just scattered elements of a ship or two hiding out and being pirates in some hidden asteroid.

[@rx_mattskii]

Love watching Gundam series reviews. Very informative and interesting. Thanks BigM!

[@KigaiOkasu]

So if this was supposed to be the Gundam equivalent of a slasher movie, would that make Captain Solari a final girl? Honestly, I understand your reasons for not liking it, but as someone who still holds the English adaptation of G-Saviour on DVD, it was better than I thought it would be.

[@AzureRoseMarshal]

The infantry battles were really goofy and if they could retcon the dopp into a kinda sorta fighter jet, they could’ve retconned the zeon and federation into wearing body armor and Kevlar helmets. Also that emo girl with the bad voice acting gets a plate carrier but nobody else wears armor?

[@ACCB710]

Anyone out here knows the name of the outro song please?

[@finncampbell4662]

Ooh to be a goof pilot and see a gundam unarmed with its back to you. That had to have been the best moment of that gouf pilots war

[@ryanclark9686]

I liked the tone and the setup. It just was pretty amateur, but I enjoyed it overall. I’d like to see a more grounded reboot series. Love me some Zakus

[@Avanael]

I like MS IGLOO more short but the story is made more sense, i still remember them like the infamous tank commander, the tragic engineers couple but at this series. its more longer than IGLOO episode but even at the end we still doesn't know what the protagonist motivation at all, why they join soldier while sacrificing their job (Musician) and their kids

[@bjg8638]

It was alright. Nothing ground breaking but pretty decent nonetheless. Feels like an entry point for non gundam fans more than anything.

[@sleepywatcher]

The last episode I just don't understand, why she went to Africa and saying she wanna save more kids, weird logic, she just wanna fight more kids? But they are the invader

[@leonardojuan92]

I thought the series was ok.

[@ronansorgdrager]

I agree, it also really feels like it's not for long time Gundam fans. It feels like it's trying to be as best of an entry point as possible.

[@supsup335]

What is it with all the gwitch slander lately? I mean, yeah, wasn't a traditional gundam show, but i see no reason for people to put it up there with the second half of destiny. It isn't even close to that bad. Come on.

[@emperorhadrian6011]

I think part of the reason people are discontent with it is that it was so nearly really really good. If it had stuck to a more linear plot and kept with the heavy Utena influence it could have been a masterpiece, but so many dead end plots were thrown in.

[@supsup335]

​@@emperorhadrian6011 Yeah, zrue. But to compare it to the shitshow that was destiny?

[@LeeONardo]

G Witch is destined to just be "a part of gundam" for eternity. It's just there, the worst place you can be - irrelevant. I feel RFV will follow in it's foot steps.

[@emperorhadrian6011]

@@supsup335 At least destiny had some really good ms designs that translated well into model kits. G witch kinda felt like the ms designs came first and they just kinda made up a story super quickly to excuse their existence. I personally think it could have worked better as some sort of extension of 30 minute missions.

[@rascallymanx8947]

Its not my favorite, but I loved seeing the suits fight. I wouldn't mind a season 2, especially if it can improve the writing!

[@disregardthat]

graphically I really enjoyed how the Mobile Suits looked (especially the Goufs!), and even how some of the characters like the base commander that you mentioned. his face was great and really evoked an old school anime caricature look of characters like Degwin, or even more recent stuff like Gundam the Origin. but I just could not get past the crappy story. I'd say if they ever release a DVD set with an isolated soundtrack, it might be worth a rewatch

[@RedHornSSS]

The fucking ending legit make my head hurt

[@michaelconnor1542]

Ya, the show, aside from Tattoo , lost me when it tried to claim the Federation was worse than the nation that gassed an entire colony then dropped on Australia. With the bodies still warm.

[@CursedShinobiClown]

The titans in question. Yeah sure they were created yet but they seeds are still there

[@jamesgreen6877]

One of the shows big problems is it refused to showcase Zeon as the bad guys, the few times it does it's so weak as to be ignorable

[@kurrjur]

It was nice to see it from a different perspective. Also bonus points for not being anime.

[@f.b.l.9813]

finally! someone else calls out Witch from Mercury!

[@PagemanX]

Pretty strange you calling out other creators like you did out of nowhere, as much as people try to push real world issues it's not what UC is and never will be. For the show is just a mid show, like the author played Zeonic Front but didn't had the rights to adapt it, as for the Zeon characters I thought it was pretty faithful, they wouldn't hold out for 50+ years if they didn't think like zealots freaks.

[@parkersas1499]

This was my first gundam show and I liked it a lot! The animation for the humans was rough but the overall story I liked, I’ve just finished your videos on the og gundam show and gundam wing recently though lol and I do think those are definitely better

[@oscarchan2624]

It really shows they didn’t do their history enough

[@fan_of_animation]

why is it a gundam specific trope where the enemy stops fighting and starts acting good and then BOOM a gun goes off and kills them

[@kindlingking]

Because core theme of Gundam (and any good Gundam series) is lack of understanding and miscommunication that leads to tragedy. Most confuse it with military action or politics or magic stuff, but those really are just framing devices.

[@channelonabudget]

Seeing this as I was just making my own review. I'd give it a 6.8 or a 7. Just about or just short of average. This was much too black and white for me. the ending sucks. she just stays with warmongers so they can monger war. I was actually gonna credit you in a different review following a certain other gundam show with a pink haired woman.

[@acetraker1988]

Mby in a few years, it will be ret-conned as in universe propaganda or something.

[@sebastianshades4]

I didn't even finish the series, just a bunch of inconsistent and inaccurate garbage. Mobile suits looked horrible. Facial animations were subpar. 99% of the characters were one-dimensional and the only one who was fleshed out didn't grab my attention one bit.

[@Lewis-jn8ry]

I was really excited to see the trailers, and then the characters opened their mouths and the voice acting was not up to what I would expect. Just based on the trailers it was enough to put me off. It just goes to show that with a lot of these netflix sponsored/ original anime or anime based movies they're either horrible like the latest castlevania nocturne series or amazing the original castlevania.

[@9822703]

which manga is that from at 11:18 ?

[@theshirtlad]

It's from Volume 1 of the 2021 War in the Pocket manga

[@sesshomaru123456789]

The Federation may suck but the Zekes are a hundred times worse. You know who really did nothing wrong the Crossbone Vangaurd! (The second one commanded by Berah Ronah not the first one.)

[@telluhwatboy]

Maybe because I’ve watched so much Gundam, but I saw the back stab coming as soon as the newtypes started speaking. That being said I still didn’t like the weak death of the Gundam pilot. The last 8 minutes of the show went from an alright show to an meh.

[@Thabooka]

not one Zeig Zeon in the whole thing!

[@Blue-Code]

I know the Federation aren’t saints, but I'm getting tired of seeing U.C stories paint them as bad guys and factions like Mafty and Zeon are the good guys for standing up to them. Both sides are at fault, but every faction who are against the Federation are worse regardless on thier goals or ideology.

[@Balevolt]

As the biggest Zeon fanboy. They are the bad guy. They have good people in Zeon but that doesn't make them good.

[@Mr_Movie_Fan]

I honestly stopped before I was even done watching episode 2. I got bored.

[@ct4649]

bad for brain development lolz

[@2Lupus1]

small thing i want to bring up there is a scene when a beam saber and heat hawk lock blades which i dont think is possible or ever happens in any of gundam ( unless someone wants to prove me wrong) it just really bugs me for some reason when i saw it

[@kindlingking]

I'm pretty sure is does happen in the original show, definitely in Zeta and probably in Thunderbolt. I don't know the science of it, but, yes, heat hawk's blade can stop beam saber, but only blade, any other part gets cut. The same is true for heat rods and heat sabers.

[@2Lupus1]

@@kindlingking alright ill take your word for it (it stills annoys me, it just dosnt seem right)

[@ezraho8449]

The main issue I felt was that it didn’t adequately establish the conflict between the characters. They spend the majority of the series just kind of running around without any real purpose other than a vague sense of trying to survive. Additionally, the story has a really big issue with telling is stuff rather than actually showing examples of what they are talking about. The mobile suits look cool and so do the fights but that’s all that it seems to have going on it.

[@scott-gaming.8834]

in my opinion i liked it, i don't know why, but i found it enjoyable in a way

[@EoineyMTX125]

Fair assesment my guy

[@Chieseled_Renegade]

I don't think it falls short.

[@chemccord]

I had to think about it but the zeon pilots ignorance might be the point. They are kept in the dark on what everyone is doing to keep them in line if they aren’t screaming space racists. That’s y the main character does something that for informed viewers is janky as hell but to a watcher that’s just as inn he rant as her it makes sense. I only say this because this is a 0079 story that does not mention the colony drop. I could be wrong however

[@Squiggles01]

RFV: "Federation bad!!" Me: So are the Zeeks! And they are more hypocrital then the Federation!!

[@EroBotan]

a gundam fan won't make a side shave feminist as the protag lol. Also a true fan will know that an UC one year war gundam can't tank a direct hit from a bazooka. Only something equipped with Phase Shift technology can do that lol and gundam seed freedom is a true gundam show, my only complaint is that it's just too short

[@f.b.l.9813]

too much Zeon glazing in the fandom and writers

[@alexrothman2078]

Counterpoint: we get to see more assault guntanks, my beloved derpy half tank. But yea completely botched the ending

[@kindlingking]

Which makes no sense, because it's production got cancelled because of a data leak (even if it was intentional as part of the spy operation). All three functional Assault Guntank units were at the battle of Odessa and got destroyed, how the hell there's like a dozen more of them? I also really love RX-440, but it should've been normal Guntanks, especially considering all they do is offer artillery support rather than do any assaults.

[@toxicdermyillunary4103]

For me It's pretty good(?) the Very Last ending scene is atrocious tho. That few minutes just told me the showrunner don't understand Gundam at all. I really like the show's approach. People hate the Zeon propaganda but what the fuck did you expect from a Zeon POV? This is not Star Wars, Babying you Sith's order is bad even in Sormtrooper's MC Pov. Though better characterization on top of that will do great. It repeats what Gundam has been telling everyone but in a unique package. In the Pov of a much more fragile Zaku. No more Op mobile suit protagonist. But the ending... BRUH she better be back with her kid, pick up violin and live her life preaching peace not kill even more pilots, potentially children. Where the hell is the lesson go to? I know she didn't know Zeon will lose so she fights but she should know Zeon Invade Earth first. How to end the war is by letting it go.

[@cd5sircoupe]

I wouldn't go as far as to say the show sucks. I quite liked it, aside from the usual complaints about the human models and the pink haired LT in my case. I hate her voice actor's performance, and she just kinda felt like a stand in from the production team. I didn't have a problem with the side character's dialogue or think it was Zeon propaganda. I mostly heard soldiers doing their duty to their country, one time Zabi/Zeon Zum Deikun philosophy got brought up it got criticized, in context of newtypes. Otherwise it was like, we're soldiers fighting for one cause and they're enemy soldiers defending. They're gonna try to kill us. I agree about the epilogue being unnecessary. I understand the want to include it to bookend Iria's story while leaving it open for future projects, but I think they could've done something differently there. As it is, her choice of action after Odesza is like counter intuitive to her motivations for the entire series. I didn't necessarily think it was a heavy handed message or anything, I just thought it was lazy. Oh yeah I forgot, I had issues with the timeline too on my now third watch earlier today. I had a friend over to watch it since they don't have Netflix, big Gundam fan. We were having issues coming to a consensus about events and when this took place relative to what was on the field by then, aka GMs. The show takes place sometime in November, I didn't catch the date. As far as the original MSG goes, GM's first appeared at the Battle of Jaburo on Nov 30. If we consider 08th MS Team as well since we've got the Major General here, Ground Type Gundams and Ground Type GMs were on the battlefield in October. I think there's room for this to work here.

[@ZacLowing]

I had a hard time with thier fricking mouths all uncanny valley.

[@JuanJohnSmith]

I agree with every said about this show. The writing, dialog, and ending was awful. The only good things were the some of the fighting and MS models. What also upset me, was some of the military decisions the Z forces made. Marching into a territory in what looks like a parade line???? Making camp without active patrol or MS pilots ready or on lookout.... Trying to push throw a checkpoint with only and armored car against two tanks.... Holding the scrap yard with little to no supplies, MS models, or air support. I refuse to believe that this unit of Zeon forces are so full of themselves that they never heard of a Gundam or ever lost friends or family. Not to mention they act like they had not dropped a colony on Earth killing millions of people. So when the Zeon characters lose friends and family, "oh no" the federation and the Gundam MS are the worst and demons. Writers don't seam to know or understand war.

[@santranquil]

Part of me says that this show was AI generated.

[@ridho2d]

I dont like the show but like the gunpla 😅

[@Yamazakura00]

Well, an easy explanation for the lack of knowledge of the gundam or gm, maybe it's an alternative timeline type of scenario

[@Triggermappy]

personally, it did bother me why the soldiers here aren't are what GMs and the Gundam is since this was nearing battle of Odessa, I had the feeling it was the writer/director's oversight, it's fine i guess but if you're someone who's into UC it kinda sticks like a sore thumb since at this point you're aware that everyone knows what a gundam and Gms are.

[@johnpine5171]

I agree with all of your points! I watched the show and I didn’t like the Zeon propaganda too. I’m not pro Federation, but I really can’t stand when Zeon says “We’re fighting for all spacenoids, blah blah blah” when they probably killed more spacenoids than the Federation. But the fights were cool and I liked the designs of the machines (Zakus, Goufs, GMs, Guntank, etc), except the Zaku tank. Sorry Zaku tank fans but the thing is just stupid, the Guntank (or Assault Guntank in the show) has more weapons and it doesn’t have a bright light that makes it easier to see it at night. Also, just a smal critic about the show, I felt like the main character (I don’t remember the name) seemed to survive the Gundam because of plot armor. She was at it’s mercy, but lived because a Zaku tank shot it (basically did nothing to the armor) and the Gundam forgot to kill her like most of the other pilots to fight the Zaku tank. That happens in a lot of shows, but if I was piloting the Gundam I would have killed her and the engaged the Zaku tank. I think if they made the fight so her Zaku got disabled while fighting the Gundam and she escaped the machine while other Zakus attacked the Gundam in melee so she could escape before the Gundam destroyed her machine it would have been better.

[@kindlingking]

Zaku Tank isn't supposed to be an actual unit, it's a cobbled up abomination made from busted Zaku and Magella chassis. It's very strange how there were like 10 of them in the show, as if that's a real unit. I think those should've been Zaku Cannons instead or at the very least all different from eachother.

[@Jkheretic]

Looks like a PS3 cut scene

[@Triggermappy]

It's mid, but I'm just happy to see MS' in current CGI form

[@RAP-SKULLION]

I kept waiting for the insufferable pink-haired girl to die. Easily the worst character and best example of the Zeke's cognitive dissonance.

[@AzureRoseMarshal]

Shitty VA and the model feels like an asset dump too. Like she’s the only one not in uniform, wearing a plate carrier, and having an actual scope on her rifle, but the guys around her are straight out of the original series

[@hellsfirefreedomtube6984]

I haven’t seen it yet because I don’t have Netflix. I don’t like the looks of the mobile suits though.

[@justchyll2009]

Where is @2:58 from

[@theshirtlad]

It's a cutscene from the Gundam 0079 Card Builder game

[@notabigfanofthepsychozakuhg]

I'm half way through the show right now and it's hard to watch it. I don't like Solari (Mostly because of the argument she had with the Major) and I think her conclusion in the end is genuinely stupid. Other than the mobile suit fighting scenes the animation is really weird like I've genuinely NSFW animators on rule34 do better. Anyway the only zeon soldier I stand behind is Cima Garahua.

[@dude10067]

I like to think of it as Gundam for normies

[@caselleknoxiv589]

The ending 😑

[@chrishill3536]

I will say it show was a 6 out 10 if they only end the show at gundam death it would be an 8 out 10 but nope had to say fed are bad when Zeon had done worst.

[@scottroxford5715]

The action and music were the only good parts, everything else was just bad. Animation, voice work, story, characters. All of it.

[@captainrope1452]

I like the show for the mobile suit fights but this is what i told my friends about the show "Its a Gundam show which is good. What bad is that its a Gundam show." Gundam has many story that are good some that are bad but the one thing that bad about them in my opinion is there to many time it stop what its doing to talk about some pointless stuff in the middle of a battle. Now like I said that my opinion and some of what that talk about is right but still there timing could be better and one question i thought operation Odeaes start October 15th when they are attack Odeaes it self? Just did it change or was it always like this i just don't know as stuff like that changes alot and i did watch your one year war videos there great i told my friends and my DM for my gundam rpg game so we can try to be lore accurate as possible. I do want to get a Gundam story in the middle of the war before White Base goes to Earth you know the four or five mouth that there no content for would be great.