I agree, there is no debate because nobody comes close to MJ. For Jordan to take the Bulls to the playoffs every year from 84-89 was a miracle. Also, MJ's competition was better.
@Pseudog831Ай бұрын
Who is the goat ? dumb question. it should be who is the 2nd best of all time? it would be more interesting.
@denniseudela411Ай бұрын
Debate? Just with the shoes alone, there's already NO DEBATE!
@HoopsHavenTV89Ай бұрын
That’s a fact!!!
@emalm1638Ай бұрын
MJ
@zedjr10Ай бұрын
please, i dont rank lebron above larry legend.
@brandonescobar8349Ай бұрын
Jordan is the goat no question LeBron is a freak athlete but MJ the goat
@SimonChingonАй бұрын
There is only one Dream Team and they dominated. To say that his competition was less is absurd!! Those men played ball like a contact sport. Not this sissy crap nowadays!!! And he toyed with all of them and they all know it!!
@HoopsHavenTV89Ай бұрын
I fully agree. LeBron did have a superteam in his path that i believe is better than any team jordan faced but regardless of what his fans say i believe the cavs were a super team as well so i cant give him a pass. Jordan is definitely the Goat.
@TruthSpeaks270Ай бұрын
And if you listen to the players back then it was an unspoken rule to not guard Jordan and let him do whatever or you'd be ridiculed.
@TruthSpeaks270Ай бұрын
Omg just look at Jordan's competition vs LeBrons 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yall really telling me those old white dudes are better than Brons competition 😅
@coryyoung185720 күн бұрын
@@TruthSpeaks270stop trying to spread bs lies. Nobody said that. Stop pretending to know basketball
@coryyoung185720 күн бұрын
@@TruthSpeaks270that's correct. If u knew basketball then u would actually know the facts
@marcosiviero494Ай бұрын
No doubt it’s as you said
@TheDocmike23Ай бұрын
Stupidest debate ever😂😂😂😂
@HoopsHavenTV89Ай бұрын
How so?
@jamesrichard681517 күн бұрын
When you consider the level of competition today it's not even a debate. Lebron has similar if not better numbers in every category against much much better players. If you want to talk about legacy that's a different conversation that can be debated. If you are talking about skill and IQ LeBron is better. The average NBA player today is leagues better than the average player in the 80's/90's, and it's not even remotely close.
@bpsactclass2218Ай бұрын
Jordan was the greatest player in the 90s. Jordan did not win the 80s. Jordan was not the best player in the 80s. That's why Jordan says there is no GOAT. He gets it. There are great players from different eras. Enjoy them. The GOAT debate got started by LeBron. There is no debate. There is no GOAT.
@TazTheTruth22Ай бұрын
I've said this my whole life. It's the most pointless conversation to have.😊
@griffycat367Ай бұрын
His peers say otherwise he had mvp season secoring title and dpoy in 80s he dominated but wasnt winning which is pretty much what lebron is doing at the twilight of his career, just raxking up stats minus the accolades that go with it aka scoring titles...
@hufinnpuff3068Ай бұрын
If there is no GOAT why does the words GOAT exist?
@JeremyYu-r8g27 күн бұрын
I'm the real Goat not leswept
@coryyoung185720 күн бұрын
Jordan was the best individual player in the 80s and 90s.
@Roy-y1l11 күн бұрын
Obviously jordan was much better than lebron but you can't be the goat when you lived by the Michael Jordan rule
@KorithStoneheart5 күн бұрын
Who cares? Wilt Chamberlain destroys them both and everyone else. Ever hear of a little thing called the record book? Not every player gets to be on a championship team, so they leave their impact the only way they can, with stats! All players do that! How else do you contribute to your team? Therefore the goat is the player with the most meaningful records. MJ only ties Wilt's career average PPG (30.1, look it up) yet Wilt also averaged over 20 rebounds per game over his career. Wilt Chamberlain has more double doubles more 35 point 40 point 50 point and 60 point games than anyone. He has more 60 point games than the rest of the NBA combined Jordan has four 60 point games over his career Will Chamberlain has 32! Wilt Chamberlain is the all-time leader in rebounds over his career it's not even close. Wilt is the GOAT. Jordan is #2 at best
@ChristianFinch-v6pАй бұрын
Jordan has no weakness and lebron has plenty of weakness. Also Jordan could shoot threes he just chose not to
@HoopsHavenTV89Ай бұрын
Exactly it was a different era back then. If he played today he would’ve worked on that shot
@gaenjАй бұрын
No he Doesn’t
@HoopsHavenTV89Ай бұрын
Whats your argument for LeBron?
@Footb_All111Ай бұрын
@@HoopsHavenTV89I wouldn’t argue with you saying jordan but for me it’s Lebron because theirs something about being able to be at the top for 22 YEARS that’s just edges it for me, if your going to bring up the 6-0 Vs 4-6 Argument I can’t argue with you but for me the Greatest Ring ever won was the 2016 Ring when Lebron and the Cavs came back from 3-1 down and beat a 73-9 Warriors team, that Ring FOR ME is worth more than Jordan’s 6 Rings.
@linorestrepolobo3620Ай бұрын
@@Footb_All111drop the crack son
@GojoRamsay888Ай бұрын
@@Footb_All111playing 82 games once and claiming longevity is nothing but a fraud bro. MJ played 82games 9 out of 15 including his last year with Wizards. Do you know why LeBron says that he will play 82 games this season? Coz that's the biggest hole in his "longevity".
@Footb_All111Ай бұрын
@@GojoRamsay888 wdym “fraud” it doesn’t matter if he only played 82 games once, he’s been at the top for 22 Years LONGER THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER, it’s your opinion at the end of the day, what about my second argument ?
@betterhuman-n4yАй бұрын
I love how MJ fans only count stats until LBJ stats are higher. Then stats don't count 😂 gtfoh
@Tankt0ptig3rАй бұрын
Yea... getting embarrassed in the finals by an underdog team when you have a heavily stacked superteam gets u out of the goat conversation. Gtfo w that, theres no debate that jordan is way better than lebron in every accolade that matters
@betterhuman-n4yАй бұрын
@Tankt0ptig3r really? What was MJ doing at 17 and what was LBJ doing? Let's start there. Bill Russell had 11 rings so he's better than MJ? Wait lemme guess "stats don't count" 😉 MJ fans will always move the bar in his favor. No point in arguing with the MJ GLAZER FACTORY
@RonnyJames-j6c27 күн бұрын
Jordan played in the no skill era bunch of bums with side jobs and the 3 point line was closer 😂😂 trash
@coryyoung185720 күн бұрын
Stop saying goofy things. If those were plumbers then LeBron plays against bloggers, podcasters, and tik tokers.
@RonnyJames-j6c19 күн бұрын
@ lebron came in the league 2003 podcast didn’t exist stupid let me guess another one who started watching ball 2015
@markryabenkiy4080Ай бұрын
comparing the playoffs in jordan's era to lebron's era is crazy. Lebron faced the best team ever assembled 4 times in the finals. Jordan won when the best stars like magic and bird retired. Lebron had to pass through curry, durant, and other superstars. Lebron also dragged teams of bums to the finals while Jordan had a great team each time. The fact that he got to the 10 finals is far more impressive.
@HoopsHavenTV89Ай бұрын
I hear you but its fair to say the cavs were a super team as well
@coryyoung185720 күн бұрын
Stop regurgitating bs information u heard from other clueless folks. Its a proven fact that Jordan facts tougher competition. And golden state wasnt the greatest team ever assembled.
@coryyoung185720 күн бұрын
LeBron didn't drag bums to the finals. LeBron also got embarrassed in the 2011 finals. So u think the Buffalo bills are the greatest NFL franchise ever? Nobody cares if u go to the finals 20 times and lose more than u won.. And ur spewing garbage information. The lakers, pistons weren't old. Stop pretending to know basketball
@pablengfavsАй бұрын
jordan cant between the legs dunk when he was 26yrs old NBA player lebron can between the legs dunk at the age of 17yrs old in highschool . jordan cant shoot 3s lebron can. jordan cant pass hes a ballhog he is selfish jordan cant play making lebron can .the truth is scottie pippen is much much better than jordan . he is all around player. he can shoot assist rebound more atheletic than jordan coach phil jackson said that and pippen too he can lebron is a passer not selfish player
@linorestrepolobo3620Ай бұрын
What are you? 12?
@FlimbsBikesAndHockeyАй бұрын
You spelled LeFraud wrong.
@HoopsHavenTV89Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 man please.
@philip5454Ай бұрын
If what you said is true then why does LeBron have less championships than MJ despite playing 10 more seasons 😂
@hufinnpuff3068Ай бұрын
@@philip5454 and also supposed to be faster, stronger and smarter than MJ.