We Measured "Luck" in the NFL. It’s a BIG deal.

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Michael MacKelvie

Michael MacKelvie

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@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe 8 ай бұрын
It's honestly insane how a few millimetres can determine someone being a legend or a playoff choker.. but that's why i love sports
@IamDevron
@IamDevron 8 ай бұрын
Well said
@AidenAlien
@AidenAlien 8 ай бұрын
That’s the part I hate about sports
@peterranney9488
@peterranney9488 8 ай бұрын
Kevin Durant's shoe is looking around nervously right now.
@nitroflux_o1040
@nitroflux_o1040 8 ай бұрын
Titans:
@TheMissiIe
@TheMissiIe 8 ай бұрын
@@peterranney9488 or the 2022 World Cup, Martinez's saved a game winner with under 30 seconds left
@JimSpeedDemonC
@JimSpeedDemonC 8 ай бұрын
As a colts fan, I miss having Luck
@ligamo
@ligamo 8 ай бұрын
Felt 😔 but hopefully AR can take us back
@MHNK77
@MHNK77 8 ай бұрын
ironic enough, Luck had one of the most unlucky careers of all time
@brettrossi034
@brettrossi034 8 ай бұрын
​@@MHNK77LMFAO yeah that IS ironic. Andrew Luck did have a lack of luck on his side
@matthewschoenemann
@matthewschoenemann 8 ай бұрын
As a Titans fan, I do not miss Luck
@justinking3558
@justinking3558 8 ай бұрын
Still a sore subject
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 8 ай бұрын
In his book, The Score Takes Care of Itself, Bill Walsh said, "The final score of a football game is decided, on average, 20 percent due to luck. I accepted the fact that I couldn’t control that 20 percent of each game. However, the rest of it-80 percent-could be under my control with comprehensive planning and preparation."
@sgttomas
@sgttomas 8 ай бұрын
Cool stats. Of course if it’s actually closer to 50% the coach is just a figurehead.
@tiggerbane4325
@tiggerbane4325 8 ай бұрын
This is hillarious this is about the same as the high end estimates where last time I saw a conversation about yugioh wins.
@047Kenny
@047Kenny 8 ай бұрын
I’m gonna read it
@willrobbins2550
@willrobbins2550 8 ай бұрын
@@tiggerbane4325go play yugioh nerd
@donaldpratt2296
@donaldpratt2296 8 ай бұрын
@@sgttomasa figurehead? This is football, the coach is the defining individual on a team. Only the QB comes close in importance. Are you thinking of another sport?
@brysoncole52
@brysoncole52 8 ай бұрын
Hey man, don't quit KZbin. It's crazy the production value and quality you have. Keep up the great work and the subscribers and views will come. You seriously deserve more exposure than you're getting right now.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Bryson! Much appreciated
@brysoncummings169
@brysoncummings169 8 ай бұрын
As a fellow Bryson, I approve of this message 👍
@Surly1
@Surly1 8 ай бұрын
@@michaelmackelvie mate I'm an Australian, so i've got no clue about most American sports, and I love this content. Please keep making it
@PANDAxxMASTERx
@PANDAxxMASTERx 8 ай бұрын
Yea dude got my sub! more nfl vids!!
@MrDavidknigge
@MrDavidknigge 7 ай бұрын
Regarding the lucky turnover on the punt that hit the players foot in Super Bowl 58, why was that player even there? He was there to block for the receiver. In fact there were two blockers back there. But in the first three punts, there were no blockers and the receiver kept getting tackled as soon as he caught the ball. As a consequence, Kyle moved one, and later, a second blocker back to facilitate a return. While it was luck that the ball hit the blockers foot, this bad luck was created by good play on the part of the Chiefs. An example of how good luck is created by good teams.
@whoozyyy
@whoozyyy 8 ай бұрын
“Kicks a man!” Is still one of the greatest calls in history.
@KushCorp
@KushCorp 7 ай бұрын
After seeing this play i started watching football🤣
@ianleamy7790
@ianleamy7790 3 ай бұрын
Easily my favorite play in the history of sports. Close second is Shaq’s dunk on Chris Dudley
@jurado1010
@jurado1010 3 ай бұрын
My second favorite behind “The band is out on the field!”
@FantasySportsZen
@FantasySportsZen 2 ай бұрын
Timestamp??
@sambrazil9770
@sambrazil9770 2 ай бұрын
I teach Chinese students who don't watch or know American football. They LOVE that play when I show it to the kids who show up early for class. You can hear them saying "kicks a man!" in the hallways after I dismiss them. It's a universally appealing bit of sport.
@davestrider2045
@davestrider2045 8 ай бұрын
“You gotta be good to be lucky and lucky to be good” might be the best quote about it. In evenly matched games luck becomes a dominate factor but with enough skill you can push it to the margins.
@TheKingOfToast
@TheKingOfToast 7 ай бұрын
I was scanning for the bears in the spreadsheet he scrolled through and saw that they had the 17th and 23rd luckiest seasons, yet ended both at 8-8. They were an extremely lucky team, but they just aren't good. No amount of luck will help with that.
@devilsadvocate1975
@devilsadvocate1975 7 ай бұрын
@@TheKingOfToast If they weren't lucky, would they have been 8-8?
@11jerans
@11jerans 7 ай бұрын
You have to be good to take advantage of good luck
@Skeletors_Closet
@Skeletors_Closet 9 күн бұрын
There’s another quote and I forget how it goes exactly, Luck favors the prepared. Luck isn’t someone walking up and handing you a million dollars. Luck is buying lottery tickets for five years before you win the jackpot.
@The_K-Dude
@The_K-Dude 12 күн бұрын
we need an updated version of this
@kentaviouscaldwell-goat5880
@kentaviouscaldwell-goat5880 8 ай бұрын
One of my biggest gripes with sports fans, particularly with the NFL, is how often people feel things that did not happen could not have happened. Lamar is seen as a loser and a choker whose playstyle does not lead to playoff success, but of course if he ever happens to get lucky all of that will dissipate. I’ll never get over how drastically people’s perceptions of Giannis and Jokic changed after their title runs, or how far Harden’s perception has dropped since his prime ended without that title stamp. I spent my entire childhood pounding on tables saying Stafford was better than people thought him to be, only to watch him leave my team and enter the conversations I long wanted him in because he found some team success. I could talk endlessly about player perception in the NFL and its relation to luck. So many fans don’t get it. Excellent video
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
That is a great way to put it…
@MHNK77
@MHNK77 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's mainly caused by these "Debate" shows running nonstop. They push black or white/ hero and villain narratives because they know that attracts views. Few people want or are able to consider nuisance and talk about luck. All they want and are able to process is "This guy GOAT, that guy sucks, that other guys chokes"
@Eidenhoek
@Eidenhoek 8 ай бұрын
People need to study more poker.
@poindextertunes
@poindextertunes 8 ай бұрын
Stafford is an average QB with good toughness and a strong arm. He was on a stacked Rams team that blew their whole wad on one year and haven’t done shxt since 🤷‍♂️
@kentaviouscaldwell-goat5880
@kentaviouscaldwell-goat5880 8 ай бұрын
@@poindextertunes they were a competitive playoff team this season and he missed almost the entirety of the only other year after the Super Bowl
@dfp_01
@dfp_01 8 ай бұрын
The football is an oblong shape prone to chaos, and as the great Bud Grant said not long before he finally passed, "you have to learn to live with the bounce."
@Jj2kallday
@Jj2kallday 3 ай бұрын
Rest in power
@cvoskuil27
@cvoskuil27 8 ай бұрын
These are the best videos I’ve seen on KZbin in a long time. Keep going. Your word choice, production level, and depth is incredible.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dylant8338
@dylant8338 8 ай бұрын
Now I’d love to see an analysis of “unluckiness” for losing teams rather than “least luck.” For example, if your OWN team drops a pass or missed a FG, that’s lucky for the other team, but failed execution by your own team. So what sort of breaks are just down right unlucky? Something that adversely affects one team that they have no control over?
@Yeahaight
@Yeahaight 8 ай бұрын
I would honestly say fumble recovery after the ball is out of the hands of the player. Yeah they can cause the fumble but the bounce of the ball is completely random
@tombratcher6938
@tombratcher6938 8 ай бұрын
Well there's a lot to this. The point of these metrics is to try to analyse how good a team is. (Because betting.) SO it's about control. If my opponent keeps dropping passes, clearly I'm lucky (unless they're M V-S, In which case, I expected this) in the sense that, when I play someone else next week, that drop tells you Nada about how I will do. There's not really any other explanation *. If I'm the chiefs... my drop rate over the season is a predictive factor. luck on your own plays _will_absolutey influence how your team does. if all kick units were equal then some would still only average 70% for the season. But the stats suggest that they arent: The falcons and ravens are outliers. Last year's best kicking team on average will be expected to do a bit worse this year, but still be good. * well actually there's weather conditions and perhaps separation and maybe even crowd noise. But only some of that is a persistent effect. And with enough data maybe it's measurable
@under-waterbasketweaving
@under-waterbasketweaving 8 ай бұрын
if your team drops a pass, the defense had no control over that so its lucky for them, but the reciever did have control of that, so its not unlucky for the offense because they could have caught it, thats the same with the missed field goals and interceptions
@narvalin5905
@narvalin5905 8 ай бұрын
I also believe that how a team responds to their luck (good or bad) makes a big difference. The Chiefs force a fumble, recover, then proceed to give the ball back on downs. Skill meets luck, but the Chiefs failed to respond positively to that luck. Later in the same game, the kick that was referenced over and over, the Chiefs proceeded to score, capitalizing on that luck. Luck only matters if you can respond positively to that luck, good or bad.
@huntercook6605
@huntercook6605 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, basically the definition of luck in this video is trash. "The other team making a mistake" isn't luck. Luck is something that *neither* team has influence over. Otherwise you find yourself saying "teams that played Carolina last season were like 10 times luckier than teams that played Baltimore" which is ridiculous. It's obvious that's a question of team quality...the opposite of luck. "Wow Kansas City was so lucky that their opponents made more mistakes than they did" is such a braindead take. There is absolutely luck in football. But this ain't it.
@MHNK77
@MHNK77 8 ай бұрын
Are you the son of Jon Bois? what we all needed brother, keep grinding
@lukeduke0479
@lukeduke0479 8 ай бұрын
The quality of sports video you post are unmatched! You deserve all the success that WILL come to you
@mtwoh
@mtwoh 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for a great video… and for including the video of the blown penalty on the Saints.
@TheLarsAnderson
@TheLarsAnderson 8 ай бұрын
These videos are AWESOME the analytics and the passion you guys show is insane i cant wait for the next video!
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Doctor.Rajeshkg
@Doctor.Rajeshkg 8 ай бұрын
Incredible production quality, great analysis too! 😮
@sppl623
@sppl623 8 ай бұрын
dude you are so next level with these sports analytical breakdowns this is the singular most impressive sports channel out rn and is on my mount rushmore with jon bois work, foolish baseball, or jxmyhighroller, you're a LEGEND Michael
@radicaloctagon9449
@radicaloctagon9449 8 ай бұрын
You continuously make the highest effort, highest quality, And just best videos I have ever seen on KZbin. Keep up everything you're doing, it's absolutely amazing, I am shocked you don't have millions of subscribers!
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@crassbusinessman3122
@crassbusinessman3122 8 ай бұрын
I say this every video, but this is criminally undersubscribed. TOP TIER quality, engaging and entertaining videos. Keep it up, please. We all need this lol
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend!
@nickluckman1872
@nickluckman1872 8 ай бұрын
It was impressive seeing how those 2019 Seahawks outskilled everyone. I'm glad to see a media member recognizing their superiority! 😁
@Skeletors_Closet
@Skeletors_Closet 9 күн бұрын
This is hands down the best content about sports. If anybody knows of any better channels please let me know. This is some good shit.
@larrymanx
@larrymanx 8 ай бұрын
I love this channel. You make videos over things people would never think about and it’s always done so well
@ZeroToNonePod
@ZeroToNonePod 7 ай бұрын
This is my favourite channel I've found recently. You've got a beautiful combination of storytelling, analysis, and visuals that make these videos better than most of professional TV.
@Daylight6kb
@Daylight6kb 8 ай бұрын
He's getting biggerrrrrr!!!! Very deserved. He always released high quality stuff!!!
@adamullerich
@adamullerich 8 ай бұрын
I could watch you talk about sports all day. The end of each video is always ambiguous. Makes me want more!
@topoisomerace
@topoisomerace 8 ай бұрын
Luck also has a huge impact on individual players. Look at Tom Brady. He needed a serious injury to Bledsoe, Vinatieri's clutch kicking, a great coaching situation, beneficial officiating on the Tuck Rule play, and a very good defense to get his legendary career rolling. How many Super Bowls does Brady win if Bledsoe never gets hurt? Zero?
@thekidfromcleveland3944
@thekidfromcleveland3944 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention *deep breath* willie mcghinist milking a injury vs the colts. No ty law rule in 03. John casey kicking it out of bounds. Early 2000s playoff peyton. Donavan mcnabb being sick in 39. And T.O playing on the broken foot but he still did work so eh....Troy brown stripping the int vs San Diego. Getting randy to throw to for 3 years. Philip rivers having to play on a torn ACL. And LT and Antonio gates being injured as well. Medical technology improving in the realm of knee rehab. The buttfumble. Julian Edelman being able to fill welkers shoes. Gronk. Multiple top 10 defensive units and offensive lines. The ravens missing a FG in 2011. Seahawks and the one yard line. And Jeremy lane going out after that tackle. The falcons forgetting how to football in the 4th quarter. The edelman catch. Winning the coin toss. Myles jack being ruled down. A bulls*** roughing the passer call. Another god damn offsides on the defense at the worst possible time. The Rams forgetting how to offense despite being the No.1 offense in the NFC. And also the saints game having them be the match up to begin with. Drew Brees shoulder giving out after the 1st quarter. Yet another God damn pass interference on a 3rd down vs green Bay. Throwing 3 picks and still winning. Playing the Football team in the wild card. Playing at your home stadium for the super bowl. Covid. Whatever the hell made the chiefs offensive line disappear. Making the playoffs at 7-9......with your only win down the stretch being the trash ass Panthers. And your main competition qb wise in the east was mark Sanchez and Ryan f****g Fitzpatrick........ with confidence shattered Matt Ryan and 8 broken ribs Drew Brees in the south...... oh and only having to go thru Pittsburgh twice. Not the 05 or the 08 not even 2010 rosters. No the god damn 01 squad who lost to the special teams unit and the "killer" Bs in 2016.
@idk-_-
@idk-_- 8 ай бұрын
@@Uemuuyou definitely could NOT but I’d love to see you try. Tom brady is the luckiest individual in NFL history, and maybe even sports history
@Sayoreacts
@Sayoreacts 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention the Seahawks not running the ball 😂
@levidezern3190
@levidezern3190 8 ай бұрын
More like the NFL scripting his whole carreer
@CrackerReacts4
@CrackerReacts4 8 ай бұрын
@@idk-_-Did u not just see how his 2018 Super Bowl was the unluckiest to ever be recorded?
@12thMandalorian
@12thMandalorian 8 ай бұрын
One of the most underrated sport channels on KZbin! Each video is well thought through, you have a great screen personality and i always click instantly when you post a video.
@theghosty99
@theghosty99 8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU, my dude. I have been talking about this exact thing for years to anyone who cared to listen and probably plenty of people who didn't 😅 The key thing people need to understand is exactly what you said at the beginning: Luck has a greater impact on football because there are far fewer games, far fewer possessions, and very importantly, far fewer playoff games (all of which are one and done). The chances for one weird fumble or one dropped TD/INT or one missed kick (for example, say, I dunno, a WR letting an easy TD get knocked out, then a kicker missing a chip shot FG at the end of the AFCCG in, like, 2011, or something) being enough to determine the outcome of the game is much higher when you have fewer opportunities to balance it out. And to that "luck is when preparation meets opportunity" thing, I'd say, "Okay, but luck is what gives you a lot of those opportunities to begin with."
@vinspad3
@vinspad3 8 ай бұрын
This video tells me teams should focus on 'controlling what you can control'. WRs and DBs with better hands means less drops. RBs who can hold the ball means less fumbles. Reliable kickers means less missed kicks. Defensive players who can get strip sacks (which is a skill) means more fumbles for the other team. If you commit less turnovers than the other team, and you make your kicks, you win.
@nathancook2852
@nathancook2852 8 ай бұрын
You increase your floor that way, but you also dramatically decrease your ceiling. Even though winning requires luck, you don't see baseball teams stacked with contact hitters who get on base winning the WS. Same in the NFL. Many great "hands" guys are only in the NFL because of their hands, they lack other things like size, speed, or explosiveness. At RB it is even worse. It's fine to have one or two of those guys maybe, but you have to have a guy who can just WIN against his man every now and then
@TheShepdawg9
@TheShepdawg9 8 ай бұрын
Gee this is a dumb comment. You're representing exactly what the video is pointing out that's wrong with the common narrative.
@johnnyblackrants7625
@johnnyblackrants7625 2 ай бұрын
In reality, drops don't really matter. It's a hell of a lot better to have a 4.2 guy who drops a few passes than a 4.5 guy who doesn't. Then when the drops happen, oh well. Bad roll of the dice.
@ghghg659
@ghghg659 Күн бұрын
You are one of the most interesting KZbin video makers out there! I’ve been telling all my friends to check out your vids. Amazing content and graphics. Keep up the outstanding work!
@TheRealJims
@TheRealJims 8 ай бұрын
Great video. People sometimes like to pretend like certain sports are exactly like chess where everything is carefully planned out and determined by pure skill. But sometimes the random bounce of the ball creates variance in the short term. You're right, in a league with only 17 regular season games, those little short term bounces can have a huge impact
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Yes.
@marshja56
@marshja56 2 ай бұрын
Of course skill is the major factor in chess but there is at least some luck even in that game. Players will try a new opening variation or an attack without knowing if it is going to work or not. The resolution is too many moves ahead for anyone to tell how it will play out. You can stumble into a great position or make very logical moves that end up not going anywhere.
@Jetsonn
@Jetsonn 2 ай бұрын
This is actually so fascinating. The algorithm suggested this video to me, and I’m subscribing as a result of the effort and level of detail.
@therockrollsoapbox6075
@therockrollsoapbox6075 7 ай бұрын
Have long said NFL fans do not appreciate the role luck plays in game and season outcomes. KC recovering 8 of 11 fumbles is absurd (and Chiefs are my 2nd fave team). This video does a good job explaining it.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@LeahIsHereNow
@LeahIsHereNow 3 ай бұрын
I refuse to be delusional. It’s a character flaw in my opinion.
@softjones3128
@softjones3128 11 күн бұрын
I’m lucky enough to root for only one team.
@marinecam
@marinecam 8 ай бұрын
Such great little video docs, you can tell a lot of thought goes into both the preparation AND presentation. As long as you guys keep making em, we'll keep watching em!
@gmfan09
@gmfan09 8 ай бұрын
Luck is a huge part of every success and failure. Luck itself doesn’t determine outcomes it’s what you do with the luck that really matters
@gwilson314
@gwilson314 8 ай бұрын
Another great video Michael. I'm glad you mentioned it was difficult to quantify "luck." I'd imagine one tough thing about quantifying "luck" is not only identifying it, but also applying its weight during the course of a game. WPA makes sense for this, but then again it (WPA) takes for granted everything that happened to that point. In other words, the only way for luck to decide a game is for the game to be close in the first place. When coaches speak of luck as just "preparation + opportunity," they are at least implicitly acknowledging this truth.
@lorenzobarriojimenez3952
@lorenzobarriojimenez3952 8 ай бұрын
You make wonderful content, I wish you’d upload more frequently. Great job once more!
@One_koala
@One_koala 8 ай бұрын
Tbh the content is that good BECAUSE he uploads this infrequently. You can't do this kind of research and presentation in mass produced content
@lorenzobarriojimenez3952
@lorenzobarriojimenez3952 8 ай бұрын
I’m well aware of that, it’s just expressing my enjoyment for his content
@AlexNilsen
@AlexNilsen 2 ай бұрын
This only scratches the surface of what “luck” means for championship winning teams. No one can do this, but measuring out talent and the probability of making a play or on the flip side making a huge error is what luck truly means. What events that have taken place over really as far as you want to go back influences the events of what happened that day, that game and that play. Life is a game of chance. You can work hard, but it only buys you a ticket at the lottery. Still beats everyone out there not buying tickets tho. Atleast most of the time Also: Thinking it’s all luck is also detrimental to your chances of winning/ getting what you want.
@BrianStDenis-pj1tq
@BrianStDenis-pj1tq 8 ай бұрын
Its true that luck affects many aspects of life. It is interesting you identified 4 significant luck events in an NFL game. While doing that can be useful, there are so many other elements of luck in an NFL game that picking four may not be appropriate. I think injury is a major luck factor, that is perhaps worthy of a top 4 luck event list. And the kicking example I don't think was shown correctly. Not all NFL kickers have the same skill. The Chief's kicker (a year or two ago) had a 58 yard attempt that he made, but was made to do over for some reason I forget. The re-try was made also, but the opposing coach called time out to ice him on this 2nd try. The 3rd kick was also made, and none of them had any doubt. Now, I agree that a missed kick less than 30 yards you could say is luck for the opponent as all kickers in the NFL can and should make those. But, not all missed kicks are due to bad luck, as teams try kicks beyond their kicker's range. And, in my view, there is luck on every play. From the play called by the offense to the defensive play matching up. There are people slipping, and blockers missing hand placements or runners using the wrong foot work or hitting the wrong gap. We tend to want to say that whatever luck occurs late in the game is somehow proof that luck controlled the game, but really there is luck from opening coin toss through the last play. To prove this, didn't the Miracle in the Meadowlands end on the leading team failing a "kneel down", aka "victory formation"? Failed by not running the easiest play to execute. Failing to not recover the fumble. Failed by not tackling Herm as he ran in for a TD. I mean, as far as "most luckiest thing you can have", I think its that, but it didn't make the list. Enjoyed it.
@mlg.powerlifting
@mlg.powerlifting 8 ай бұрын
This is the Jimmy high roller of the NFL. Love your content! Best football production value out there
@zachstory4708
@zachstory4708 3 ай бұрын
Playing the Chiefs definitely creates some factors that decrease “luck” and make chance events less chancey. Playing against the best team (often primetime or playoffs) at the loudest stadium that is also outdoors can lead to more missed kicks than average. The same factors could apply for dropped interceptions or passes though to a smaller degree I believe “pressure” does exist and affect play
@dakotaflowers0
@dakotaflowers0 8 ай бұрын
It's been a real joy to watch your videos my guy 👌
@pinkdonkey4397
@pinkdonkey4397 3 ай бұрын
As a ravens fan, it hurts to hear "one foot" / "just a few inches" changed the outcome of a game... That game just occurred an hour ago! Lol
@LeahIsHereNow
@LeahIsHereNow 3 ай бұрын
I live in Kansas City and I am a Cowboys’ fan first (because I’m from Dallas and it’s a family legacy thing because they’re all gone) but I also love the Ravens. I don’t even know why I love them, but I do. Lamar deserves that ring. Everybody in my household, loves the Chiefs and sunshine streams from Patrick Mahomes’ butt 24/7. Of course they just said “a win is a win” when Likely caught that ball and his toe was over the line. I guess. But that’s getting pretty old considering the fact that Mahomes had a nervous breakdown last season when Travis Kelce’s touchdown didn’t count because a player wasn’t lined up correctly on the Chiefs side, and he also throws himself on the ground like a flopping fish every time a defender breathes on him and has a toddler tantrum when he doesn’t get a RTP call. Ravens got robbed. Frustrating as hell because when does this lucky streak run out?! I just do not believe the Kansas City Chiefs are the FAR superior team in the NFL just because they’ve stacked some rings. The Ravens, the Texans, the Lions… So many teams deserve the limelight and I will EVEN say the 49ers even though I can’t stand them because George Kittle is a goober. 😂 I give constructive criticism to the teams I like all the time. I’m a very fair, egalitarian person, but seeing people who have drank the Kool-Aid on this level is just disconcerting. Anybody with eyeballs can see the truth but they refuse. Weird.
@philwilis789
@philwilis789 2 ай бұрын
@@LeahIsHereNowthe chiefs were dominant all game against the ravens, quit crying
@bobjohnson7929
@bobjohnson7929 2 ай бұрын
How bout those Raiders
@carsonproctor6037
@carsonproctor6037 2 ай бұрын
No, it was Lamar Jackson's inability to throw a football for the previous 2 downs. The down beforehand he had a completely open receiver and he completely missed 5 yards to the left.
@calebfarmer6236
@calebfarmer6236 2 ай бұрын
@@LeahIsHereNow Lamar jackson deserves a ring? you should be a comedian.
@TruthHurtsCT
@TruthHurtsCT 8 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoy your videos and the intellect and intelligence you bring to them and for people who refute analytics
@bradleyalthaus
@bradleyalthaus 8 ай бұрын
listen im a dallas fan. was born in to it. we aren't unlucky in the playoffs, we're just bad. granted you could say a few plays were unlucky, but they're only in that situation bc of bad plays earlier on. it's quite simple, you don't lose and win games off one play. while you noted there's a few possessions within a game, there's several plays within those possessions. teams win/lose off multiple failed plays, not one or two unlucky ones. and that's why mahomes and brady win, because they understand in the biggest moment, just how important one play is.
@lee9617
@lee9617 8 ай бұрын
Ofc my team gets to be on the unfortunate side of the luck video😭 I expected it also makes me feel better in some ways. Awesome video as always this channel deserves so much more recognition
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Lee! Given enough time…we all (painfully) have to experience being on the wrong side of luck
@LemonInYourEyes
@LemonInYourEyes 7 ай бұрын
As a Vikings fan the past two years have been insane. 2022 was a decent team, maybe middle of the pack, that got EXTREMELY lucky and ended up winning 13 games. 2023 was a better team in almost every aspect. The defense improved from 31st to middle-of-the-pack. Yet INSANELY bad luck kept the team out of the playoffs. This was a team that would lose a game on a touchdown turning into a touchback due to a fumble that if held onto for another split second would've won them the game. A touchdown turned into a turnover off a dropped pass to cost them another game. Every single loss had a moment or multiple moments like this. And then JJ went down with a hamstring injury and Kirk Cousins went out for the year with a torn achilles. The same luck that they benefitted from in 2022 (Including very few injuries) came around and bit them in the ass in 2023 (which was injury plagued). Luck made a decent 2022 team great and a good 2023 team terrible.
@cheetofingersbum
@cheetofingersbum 2 ай бұрын
Was it bad luck or was it the Mormon Missle Nick Mullins?
@jonathan8096
@jonathan8096 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, though I might counter - what truly constitutes an event as 100% chance? For me, the saying of “luck is when preparation meets hard work” is completely valid, as just like you mentioned, it acknowledges luck. But within football, there is a much more limited range of outcomes for a majority of the scenarios you presented than you gave off. While any of those outcomes could occur, many can be mitigated.
@ericsilver9401
@ericsilver9401 8 ай бұрын
“A few inches changed everything” I feel that
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
It was difficult to navigate this…might have had to remove a few lines…
@cartl1907
@cartl1907 8 ай бұрын
Love your videos man. Need YOU to get lucky and have the algorithm push your content to more people!
@KeegoTheWise
@KeegoTheWise 8 ай бұрын
4:44 a majority of the examples here are chiefs players dropping passes lol. the fact that they won another lombardi with a generational drop rate is nothing short of incredible (as is this video!)
@EHeroClayman
@EHeroClayman 8 ай бұрын
One phrase I want to enter in the sports lexicon is Random is random. Originally a buddy of mine used it to describe the random number generator in video games. However it can definitely be applied in sports. Excellent video. It's a shame my guy isn't at 100K yet.
@tylerty5194
@tylerty5194 2 ай бұрын
One of the best quotes I’ve heard it “it’s easier to be lucky if you put yourself in situations where you can be lucky” and that is where skill comes in
@archimedesCNC
@archimedesCNC 2 ай бұрын
this video most assuredly needed a transcript. it's that informative & filled well with tickable, worthy smarts. speaking as a very non sports guy who writes decision tree code.
@philipj.sherman2987
@philipj.sherman2987 7 ай бұрын
0:20 Correction: The BEST punt of the night...
@jamesrom6222
@jamesrom6222 7 ай бұрын
Incredible vid all around - analysis, presentation, format / style. Exactly what I’m looking for in data driven sports vids
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 7 ай бұрын
Thank you James!
@ASMRPeople
@ASMRPeople 8 ай бұрын
"Luck is unpredictable, but talent takes advantage of it" Steve Sabol
@CalabrianVince
@CalabrianVince 3 ай бұрын
One of, if not, the best random recommended videos I've seen in a long time. Instant subscribe
@alangil40
@alangil40 3 ай бұрын
I guess you were lucky
@tortle285
@tortle285 8 ай бұрын
This was a great video. Very well made. With that said, I would push back on a lot of the things you're considering as Luck. If you take a bunch of averages and then point out an outlier, sure you can call that lucky, but at the end of the day it wasn't the wind, it was the players. A dropped interception is a physical skill based mistake by the defense, that muffed punt is the fault of the blocker Luter and McCloud. Luter was unaware of the balls position and McCloud dropped what would have been a recovery by the 9ers while he scrambled for it. Even if we consider the moment of a kick, anything past a quick unpredictable gust of wind is either a mistake or a good play by the kicker. Of course luck has some say in football, but considering the amount of examples that could've been changed by a skill play on either side, I didn't find all the stats convincing, and I think there's something to be said for playing as a more buttoned up team that makes less mistakes when it counts in any given game.
@CampingInParadise
@CampingInParadise 8 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it. This invalides every sport. If someone's lack of skill is boiled down to luck than what is the point of the sport at all. This guy assumes a field goal or a drop is luck period. Ridiculous
@ChosenPlaysYT
@ChosenPlaysYT 8 ай бұрын
If you want a movie showcasing luck like this, do Nebraska football. They have some insane anomalies happening. Like averaging top 25 in recruiting, but having 50 more turnovers than any other power 5 program the last 15 years.
@wrmf3426
@wrmf3426 8 ай бұрын
Michael, I love you
@TheAChargers
@TheAChargers 9 күн бұрын
Love that you used Brandon Stsley as an example of a coach making bad excuses
@caliboy09
@caliboy09 7 ай бұрын
As a Niner fan this makes me disappointed
@LeahIsHereNow
@LeahIsHereNow 3 ай бұрын
I’m a Dallas fan and I still think the 49ers got robbed. It takes humility to say this. 😂
@codyrust1921
@codyrust1921 2 ай бұрын
This a fantastic breakdown of a misunderstood concept. I am also a Seahawks fan and that 2019 run, while it was incredible to be at those games and escape with the most unlikely of wins. The narrative the whole year was luck and “the ball bouncing our way” right at the end of games. And in the playoffs that was exactly what happened and the luck switched and we got trounced. Excellent production and writing. Very entertaining and you have a gift for content creation
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Cody!
@ajp5556
@ajp5556 7 ай бұрын
As much as Barry mccockiner likes to call Brady lucky yet mahomes has been nothing but lucky since the 2018 afc championship
@bobbypinkston9374
@bobbypinkston9374 8 ай бұрын
Phenomenal production and presentation. I felt myself glued to this video.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Bobby!
@Joel_Rice
@Joel_Rice 2 күн бұрын
wait til you find out about the '24 Chiefs.
@willforbes2785
@willforbes2785 8 ай бұрын
Unreal production value. Can’t believe u don’t have a million yet, keep it up
@Spoon80085
@Spoon80085 3 ай бұрын
Do the same for the Boston Bruins and no matter what the numbers say tell me it's just luck
@Bananq23
@Bananq23 8 ай бұрын
I don't follow NFL. I don't even like NFL. NBA fan here. I watched the video in its entirety. Love the quality and what you do! Keep up the great work!
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend!
@bloodyax8070
@bloodyax8070 3 ай бұрын
The Chiefs "Luck" usually is a bolt of yellow shooting from the black and white
@Sam-ow4ws
@Sam-ow4ws 3 ай бұрын
Ur full of shit
@CodyShitagi
@CodyShitagi 2 ай бұрын
That's clever
@djr3385
@djr3385 2 ай бұрын
Quit bitching
@statboy11
@statboy11 2 ай бұрын
Typical fan of a losing team. Ignore any penalty that doesn't feed your confirmation bias.
@BerryFruit
@BerryFruit 2 ай бұрын
​@@statboy11Ever thought about why it's the Chiefs and ONLY the Chiefs that get this joke jabbed at them from season to season and game to game? It's almost as if some trend started and hasn't really stopped.
@applejacks6237
@applejacks6237 8 ай бұрын
My favorite KZbinr right now. These videos are very well produced and edited. Notifications always on 🙏
@LouisFlipini-zm2nc
@LouisFlipini-zm2nc 2 ай бұрын
Should have measured penalties as well
@jayrodd2015
@jayrodd2015 8 ай бұрын
People make fun of it but some managers in the premier league will mention expected goals. This is indirectly mentioning luck along with finishing ability. Love the video man!
@lostinl.a1440
@lostinl.a1440 3 ай бұрын
Dropped passes aren’t luck but a skill issue same with field goals.
@donpeterson666
@donpeterson666 2 ай бұрын
Depends. Freethrow shooting is unskilled. But if an opponent Steph Curry missed a freethrow during a game and your team won by 1 point, you would probably say your team got lucky in that case.
@LucaBosso
@LucaBosso 8 ай бұрын
I honestly cannot understand how the hell you still haven’t reached 100k subs considering how much effort you put in each one of your videos, keep it going!!!❤
@SteveHancock-b7z
@SteveHancock-b7z 7 ай бұрын
It’s remarkable how “unlucky” the Chiefs were for 47 years when they didn’t have an elite quarterback. A team has to be talented enough to take advantage of breaks.
@jd229
@jd229 7 ай бұрын
Yes but then they play another team with a similarly elite QB (I didn't say the same I said similar so calm tf down) and they def get some luck. You know what I'm talking about.
@EnigmaticVayne
@EnigmaticVayne 7 ай бұрын
Are you implying Purdy is elite? ​@@jd229
@coyohma8947
@coyohma8947 7 ай бұрын
Mahomes has thrown bad (read: his fault) interceptions in the 2nd halves in three of his four Super Bowls-and all when the Chiefs were losing. At that point, you’re quite at the mercy of the opponent and luck.
@SteveHancock-b7z
@SteveHancock-b7z 7 ай бұрын
@@coyohma8947 and yet he was primarily responsible for winning two of the three.
@Chiptunejazz
@Chiptunejazz 7 ай бұрын
Congrats, you made a point the video itself made. You did it.
@grogusfitnesschannel8687
@grogusfitnesschannel8687 8 ай бұрын
These videos are so awesome. So excited every time you post
@MadTraveler
@MadTraveler 8 күн бұрын
the 2024 Chiefs are the luckiest team in pro sports history!
@fobie7913
@fobie7913 8 ай бұрын
You have quickly become one of my favorite KZbinrs, love these videos
@micahwilliams1826
@micahwilliams1826 8 ай бұрын
Attributing a team's performance solely to "luck" is an oversimplification. Football, like most complex systems, is deterministic - if you could measure and account for all relevant variables, the outcomes would become predictable. However, the problem with that perspective is that it's nearly impossible to account for every single variable that influences a team's success. There are simply too many complex, interconnected factors at play. Reducing team performance to luck alone is therefore an incomplete analysis. The reason why the data may suggest some teams are "inherently lucky" is likely because there are unknown variables that have not been sufficiently accounted for. The simpler explanation is that the apparent "luck" of teams like the Chiefs over a 5-year span is actually a function of unmeasured factors that contribute to their sustained success. With insufficient data, it's easy to fall back on luck as an explanation. But in reality, the complex nature of football means that a more comprehensive analysis of all relevant variables would be required to truly understand a team's performance trends. I look forward to hearing your response.
@brandonkoch3764
@brandonkoch3764 8 ай бұрын
One of the best sports creators out there right now. Great work man!
@husneiniqbal228
@husneiniqbal228 8 ай бұрын
in the chiefs case: when u have arrived at the afc champ game every year since 2018, and u have advantages in the most impactful positions, and u have a coach that makes u practice and simulate unlikely scenarios? when does a team create they're own luck? 2018 patriots won in the afc champ game because of a int that got called back, were they're lucky or was the chiefs undisciplined? And I would characterize possessions on a snap per snap basis, because a possession in the nfl is a series of actions compared to the nba were u have one shot at the rim and instantly change
@gu244
@gu244 8 ай бұрын
Right, this video is looking at football from a purely statistical perspective, and there is so much more going on that its hard to look at almost any play and really call it luck.
@acgeewhiz
@acgeewhiz 8 ай бұрын
While I see what you mean, each basketball possession includes passes, dribbles, handoffs, and can have more than one shot if you get an offensive rebound. While each play in football can have lots of similar series of actions, they’re 1) not changing possession on incompletions or out of bounds, and 2) also not usually played from the red zone, unlike most of a basketball possession taking place in the half court. And it also comes down to what the league rulebooks call a possession, so your gripe is perhaps more with the printed word than this video, lol.
@jpete576
@jpete576 8 ай бұрын
These videos are so well made, keep up the good work!
@jaredolinger3933
@jaredolinger3933 7 ай бұрын
As a Chiefs fan I remember how lucky Brady was that we were half a second offsides in the AFC championship game and it was actually called and then how unlucky we were to have 4/5 starting O-Lineman injured in Bucs-Chiefs SB 😭
@cuber3603
@cuber3603 7 ай бұрын
To be fair we have also been very lucky especially when u look at the last super bowl there were several freak events that helped us like the Greenlaw injury for instance
@professorwigginslectures3808
@professorwigginslectures3808 7 ай бұрын
@@cuber3603 And yet, somehow even though Mahomes loses Tyreek, gets his ankle all wanged up, etc., he still wins the Super Bowl. Then this year, even though the Chiefs WRs led the league in drops and had the #1 and #2 most-penalized players in the NFL on their squad, they win a second straight. Bad luck like crazy--and they go back-to-back. Luck, schmuck.
@israelp348
@israelp348 7 ай бұрын
Remember how lucky the Chiefs were that Devin McCourtey dropped a game losing INT by Mahomes in that game with 2 mins left? Or is that all you revisionist historians got?
@jaredolinger3933
@jaredolinger3933 7 ай бұрын
@@israelp348 if Devin could catch he’d be a wide receiver… that’s a skill issue! 😉
@ClavisRa
@ClavisRa 5 ай бұрын
The Chiefs got outplayed all game. The refs kept the in the game with a several horrible DPI calls and an illegal pick play you got away with. You had the "luck" that game: getting correctly penalized for lining up offsides is not luck. Also, Mahomes actually only faced an ordinary pressure rate the first half of the Bucs Superbowl. He just sucked all game. He kept holding the ball trying to play hero ball instead of hitting the short passes. He's just not that good, really.
@ChosenPlaysYT
@ChosenPlaysYT 5 күн бұрын
You’ve gotta do a luck video on Nebraska football. It will break the chart.
@naelbi8870
@naelbi8870 8 ай бұрын
So you really believe the NFL is not rigged ? Come on !
@ZeusAmun-pt9dc
@ZeusAmun-pt9dc 8 ай бұрын
It was literally created by the Mafia as a game to gamble on. They try to hide that nowadays but for those of us old enough to remember, we are not fooled. It used to hold the games in the middle of horse racing tracks and you would place your bets and get your tickets before the game started then cash em after if you won.
@adriel1788
@adriel1788 8 ай бұрын
The content and production value of this channel is awesome. Also, your voice makes the video that much better as well.
@wingman4717
@wingman4717 3 ай бұрын
I love this stuff. A lot of people overlook this completely. So many successful people in life are literally right place, right time. Who knows what today or tomorrow could bring for you?
@Kinimaethnous
@Kinimaethnous Ай бұрын
What a video! And great production value too
@Nick1994H
@Nick1994H 8 ай бұрын
Bro these videos are so insanely good you're about to have a bunch of subscribers
@RyanG2004
@RyanG2004 3 ай бұрын
I dont even like sports but your videos are extremely captivating.
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Ryan!
@FlatSpinMan
@FlatSpinMan 7 ай бұрын
Outstanding. You explained and more importantly, analysed this, so clearly.
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick 3 ай бұрын
the way you analyze concepts and numbers feels much closer to FortNine than Secret Base, i love it
@thenaiam
@thenaiam 7 ай бұрын
I love that you showed your team! Go Hawks!
@gandix5516
@gandix5516 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always. Best channel on KZbin. Look forward to the next one.
@girardedward
@girardedward 8 ай бұрын
2:34 Awesome content!! Didn’t consider ‘sample size’ when I thought baseball requires the most luck in sports. Love stats👍
@IceyySprite
@IceyySprite Ай бұрын
Recently watched a TikTok about a concept similar to this in relation to how the Chief's season is going this year. 7-0 but very well could be 3-4 due to key luck moments. Great vid
@B1055BH
@B1055BH 9 күн бұрын
As a Razorback football fan, we’ve been unlucky so many times. Sigh. This makes me feel a -little- better.
@joelhanson9327
@joelhanson9327 8 ай бұрын
Ridiculously good quality vids. Keep going man, I think u can really succeed at this
@michaelmackelvie
@michaelmackelvie 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Joel! Much appreciated
@jamesmarshall6619
@jamesmarshall6619 8 ай бұрын
Coaches, and people, don't often like to talk about luck because they would have to admit the lack of control they possess over their life. It's not that you don't have a lot of control as a person, it's just that there is so much that can and will have an effect on you of which you have zero control, good and bad and that scares people to think "My success is because of my own hard work" when in reality sometimes, you were smart, you did work hard,...and you got lucky. It's not a denigration of your character, intelligence, or effort, but just a reality. Heck, how often are some of us lucky to have lived some almost deadly accident by a few inches here or there. Luck is everywhere, it's okay to admit, it's not a failure on your part if it goes your way or against you, just be thankful when good luck does go your way.
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