Get Windows Update Working on Old Windows Versions! - Legacy Update Demo

[@MichaelMJD]

Just wanted to let you all know that I heard from the developer of Legacy Update! He is working on a patch to fix the crashing when you select SP3 from the installer's components list.

[@sayaaep]

ok.

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

That should be a LAW, that Microsoft provide an Update service for all versions of windows they created... it could be a paid service ( $49 a year ) considering the Billions of machines produced that are out their existing... MS would make BANK $ from just keeping a few servers up and running on the internet to dish out updates to old Windows 3.1 / 95 / 98 / ME / NT / 2000 / 7 / 8.1 machines...

[@sayaaep]

@@ZanaGBYT he will be a professional lawyer (maybe)

[@SamuelDoesThings2011]

@@SeaJay_Oceans 3.1 and 9X?! That's kinda ridiculous...

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

@@SamuelDoesThings2011 The cost of putting up two 12 core servers load balanced and mirrored is nothing to a MultiBillion company like Microsoft, and again - not charity, just another profit stream. ''Legacy Service'' back to DOS 3.1 $49 a year for downloads and access to updates. The world shouldn't be shocked to know many systems still run DOS and COBOL. The price point of $49 means someone building a legacy system won't mind subbing for 1 year to get their legacy system up and running. Of course all the old stuff is already out in the marketplace , ebay, etc. The 'Legacy Service' is simply a matter of authenticity and ease of use for Microsoft 'fans'. For $99 a year people could sign up for 'Legacy Support' which would be an email only support - MS can hire a few dozen retired tech support people at moderate fees, and they can email and chat with like minded people who love DOS, Win3.1 Win95. Windows 95 Still has the Best looking user interface with it's big shiny candy buttons.

[@ShaknunicPT-BR]

Just to clarify to your audience because I love your videos about these old machines... Legacy update not only update your Windows, but your Office package as well, including also the newest release for most drivers you got in the machine as well like Graphics card driver for example.... Also it detects which Windows language you are using and redirect to specific updates for that language, this is where Legacy Update shines.

[@lordmuaddib]

indeed, i'm using it right now on my japanese xp installation and so far it's doing its job correctly, cheers to the community!

[@ShaknunicPT-BR]

@@lordmuaddib I'm using Brazilian Portuguese which is very obscure these days as well :)

[@Brownd55]

Oh sweet, I'm intending to try this with the Spanish version and this gives me confidence

[@CoTeCiOtm]

Dude, I just recently revived an old Windows Vista laptop I have and I was so bummed I couldn't get updates, and now I ran into this! This stuff is a life saver! Thank you for showing this to us!

[@meligarcia]

The Vista part of this will be INSANELY helpful for me! Whenever I install Vista on a VM I have to get some updates from the catalog beforehand because otherwise it just won't stop checking for updates.

[@SummonerArthur]

Why do you use vista? No sarcasm intended, just plain curiosity

[@jaxcyl1-t4b]

@@SummonerArthurIt has a great UI, better legacy software support, Extremely stable on SP2

[@CoreyDeWalt]

I've been hoping something like this would be made. Very exciting to me! Would be cool if they could add support for windows 9x.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

W7 as well

[@julianretro2582]

As far as I know the servers for 9x were unfortunatly shut down loooooooong time ago...

[@julianretro2582]

But the "unofficial service packs" for 9x includes the most important updates

[@andresbravo2003]

Well, when it’s announced.

[@arnox4554]

But... Michael failed to address one very important question. At this point, why would you want to update (besides getting the service packs)? Updated or not, XP and Vista are both very insecure at this point. The quick driver downloads are pretty convenient, I'll definitely give it that, but beyond that, what's the point?

[@mrnapolean1]

Ive done so many updates on XP back in 2010-2011 for the3 repair shop I worked for. This was a nostalgia trip for me. Thanks!

[@jwoolery99]

Been utilizing this lately to restore a bunch of XP-related machines. I used to use a self-hosted WSUS server myself with all the XP updates that I needed, and while I still think it’s a faster way of doing updates since it’s self-hosted, the convenience of this utility shouldn’t be understated. It’s a great effort to restore this once-lost feature and I hope it only gets better over time (i.e, Windows 9x/NT4 updates?)

[@pessoaanonima6345]

According to the FAQ: "I’d love to support as far back as Windows Update itself has existed, but it may be quite a bit more significant undertaking than Legacy Update has been so far due to Microsoft’s intent to move on from its past. I’m still positive it can be done though!" He also explains XP and 2000 are much easier due to the similarities to the newer versions, while these old versions would require him to do more work. I hope it works though.

[@jwoolery99]

@@pessoaanonima6345 I think it can be done, it might need a special utility to do so (just like the Legacy Update “enabler” for 2000 and later), but I could imagine it’s doable. Course I’m not a software developer so the most I can do is speak with my mouth 😆

[@Skiedeagle]

@@jwoolery99 I think that's what it is, looking at a preview of it on his Twitter shows a windows update v3 page displaying on a 9x system checking for updates, so it's getting somewhere

[@pessoaanonima6345]

@@jwoolery99 It's not that simple. Windows 2000 and XP already have support for the latest Windows Update agent. These older versions don't, so according to him, it is harder to provide support as microsoft doesn't do it anymore. Read the FAQ, he explains it much better than I could.

[@jwoolery99]

@@pessoaanonima6345 Correct, so even if they have to go down the custom utility route to re-enable updates, then I’m all for it! It might require a separate server with more bandwidth requirements, so that could be a problem large-scale, but truthfully I can’t imagine a ton of 9x machines are going to be slamming an update server frequently, so it could work out with some additional $. But that’s just my opinion.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

This is great! Now I can finally be protected against the blaster worm!

[@davidsucesso2419]

Its 2004 again :)

[@GroupNebula563]

@@davidsucesso2419 *unregistered hypercam 2 intensifies*

[@thrivingbranch]

😂🤣

[@cherylrollins1554]

Is that a danooct01 reference?

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@cherylrollins1554 Who's that?

[@K9arcade]

Such an amazing feat to have the option to further support older machines with real updates :) Long Live Older Windows

[@zariy2164]

Thanks Michael to put time and tons of effort into your videos ! I always love them

[@mattelder1971]

Wow, this is a Godsend!! I work at a thrift store and am constantly restoring old computers. I usually try to put the original OS on them, but when doing XP and Vista, I've never been able to update them before selling them. Now I can!!! Awesome. Testing it out now on my XP and Vista computers at home right now.

[@bluephreakr]

Much as I love this application and what it does, if the PC is 64-bit capable then consider a Linux solution. My preference as of present is EndeavourOS. KZbin isn't the best platform to talk about this, but I wouldn't mind sparing some more time to do so if you want to pick a Linux user's brain about this. Mind, I am still quite a bit novice because I don't really dig _that deep_ into things, but I am more-than-capable of representing the breadth of choice for complete desktop environments to enough of a degree for determining what might be good for an older system depending on its specifications.

[@mattelder1971]

@@bluephreakr LOL, it's so cute that you think that you know more about this than I do. I'm VERY familiar with Linux and have been working on computers for nearly 40 years. I restore the computers as close to their original configuration as possible because the people who typically buy these older systems want them either for nostalgia or for playing old games or just as collectibles. Any computer that originally came with Windows 7 or above gets upgraded to Windows 10.

[@bluephreakr]

@@mattelder1971 Ah, that's great. Glad I didn't go through the bother writing opinions about my (comparatively-limited) experience with desktop environments. Speaking of, got a favourite?

[@McVaio]

@@bluephreakr I'm still curious to read it though.

[@bluephreakr]

​@@McVaio The TL;DR of it would basically be XFCE, MATE or LXQt for lower-end machines, KDE, GNOME Shell or Cinnamon for higher-end machines. Ultimately what drives much of the experience is what interface is available to an end-user. Second to that is package management. Third is whether the package management works for one's needs. If those three things are fulfilled in a satisfactory way to an end-user, they can attempt to live their best life computing with anything open-source. Before all of that, however the kernel must play ball with the hardware available. If it does, everything else can come thereafter. The absolute worse thing any end-user can do to themselves is not take time to discover. Solutions like Ventoy can make that easy by shotgunning a bunch of different distros with aa sole focus on the overall desktop experience and think critically of what they like, or at the very least what they do not mind living with. Unfortunately, time is a precious limited resource for many, and people seeking a _just works_ solution is bound to be disappointed.

[@mIRChele]

I recently used this to get Xp up to date on a vintage notebook I have and it works really well. Unfortunately there is an update that terribly slows down the startup of the pc, when the start menu bar loads but you can't click on it for a full minute. I remember I had the same problem even when windows update was still online with every xp pc I had, so the original experience is flawless lol. If I had some more time I would have installed the updates one by one until finding the culprit

[@NoahClevinger]

Such a good feeling when you get to kick back, relax, and enjoy a brand new Michael MJD video!

[@stephensalex]

I'm a huge collector and user of legacy operating systems, so this looks extremely helpful. I haven't heard of this until today, so thank you for the video, Michael. Much appreciated!

[@FubarMike]

This will definitely come in handy for my old vista pc. Even with SP1 it still circles the drain and does nothing on updates.

[@jimdayton8837]

I'm so glad people are still finding ways to keep XP up to date. I was really disappointed when Microsoft killed off Microsoft Update on XP last year.

[@Repeatingpower7]

Nice! I have that same exact laptop and am tri-booting windows XP, Vista, and 7. Good to know I can update Vista and XP.

[@1000yani]

yeeee

[@HorsepowerGarageVideos]

I wish I found this video a year ago, I just installed vista and got updates working the hard way a few days ago then I found this video while trying to update a fresh install of XP and legacy update made my life so much easier.

[@RevilleAJ]

a thing to note is that you must download it on the system that you want to use it on. despite the .exe being universal and exactly the same afaik, dragging it in from a windows 10 host to an xp vm caused it to not work, but downloading the .exe directly from xp with mypal made it work. not sure what causes that, took a bit of trial and error until it happened

[@HorsepowerGarageVideos]

I downloaded the exe on windows 10 and transferred it to an actual XP machine with no issues, must be just a vm issue.

[@trulyirrelevant17]

The other way that I’ve been doing is there’s a version of XP on the internet archive call “Service Pack 4” and it houses the latest versions of software (well at least for xp) like web browsers, hardware checking, etc. aswell as all the core security update and XP updates. Takes like a billion years to actually install but it works.

[@Bewefau]

lol links!

[@fetc7283]

Here’s something no one ever talks about when doing that, you must have at least Service Pack 1 installed for it to work. If you have RTM for whatever reason, you must install SP1, 2, or 3 (RTM can go straight to regular SP3) before you can install unofficial SP4

[@wadmodderschalton5763]

Wish to see a unofficial SP5 that combines both SP3 and POSReady 2009 updates combined in one.

[@josephstallin6720]

This should be implemented for 8.1 too, as it's end of support is in less than a month, windows update is kinda broken on 8.1 already unless you have specific updates downloaded manually.

[@mattelder1971]

Same with 7. There are a couple of prerequisite updates that need to be installed on a fresh Win7 machine before Windows Update will work there as well (I keep them on my installation media and install them right after the OS installs).

[@LOTR_BTTF]

@@mattelder1971 Yeah I had this problem trying to reinstall W7 on an old PC a few months ago. The only install CD I have is one I purchased right after W7 was released; so it's basically RTM. Windows update won't even work on it. Had to manually install a bunch of updates before it would auto-install the rest.

[@glaceRaven]

This would be so, so helpful. I'm trying to get a refurbished Windows 8.1 machine up and running (it's my favorite Windows OS), and it'd be nice to be able to install all the security updates

[@saganandroid4175]

8.1? Found the masochist!

[@BlindMansRevenge2002]

With Michaels blessing I went and tried this on my dell Lastro 1500 from 2007. My favorite computer of all time! It ended its service life with Windows Vista ultimate in 32 bit. With his utility I was finally able to get those two elusive updates from May 2017 that I was never able to pull down when Windows update broke on the system. Running Windows update drew an error but I suspect that is because there are no more updates to get.

[@PlanetEleethal]

Thanks for this information, I was trying to get Windows XP running normally in a VM in order test software for the company I work for on old OS installs and this would have saved me so much time!

[@shaneeslick]

PS Michael, WOOHOO! SUCCESS! Many thanks again for the Instruction Video plus link & HUGE THANK YOU to the LegacyUpdate group

[@alexandrubossro]

I've been searching for a tool like that for months for my VM!!! Thank you!!

[@Wish13]

It’s my birthday today! :) Glad to see a Michael MJD video on this special day

[@PainweedingPills]

11:00 At least you're in the 80's, baby! I believe this decade will wield some of the most awesome and iconic movies in history!

[@CoTeCiOtm]

A note for people downloading this now, the main website link throws you to version 1.5, which is broken for some Windows versions, including Vista, which makes it so even after installing Legacy Update, it still throws an error when looking for updates, but this was already addressed on version 1.6, except that it seems the guy in charge hasn't updated the link yet, so you have to copy the link, paste it on the address bar, and change 1.5 to 1.6 and you should be good to go!

[@Therealjimjam]

Dude, this is huge. Thank you for sharing!

[@decm8]

I am currently working on an ultimate xp build, for retro games related purposes, Will definately utilize this thanks.

[@aaaalex1994]

I hope one day they can make it work on older versions of Windows as well (like Windows 95/98 or NT 4.0)...

[@SleakaJ]

Glad I ran across this video. I have an XP machine that I keep for some older games. Using Legacy Update I can keep it "more" updated that it was before (not that I keep it connected to the internet for any other reason).

[@Axenide]

I just installed Windows XP on VMware and suddenly you upload this video. Thanks!

[@Bernardoskau]

MJD saying "WSUS" was the best thing i ever heard.

[@j__r0d]

huh...looks like that old xp machine I picked up from my good ole grampa is about to get updated! thanks for featuring this!

[@Andreas5664]

There is also a project to ressurect Windows Update website by using IIS in MSFN, but it is much complicated

[@nostreamgia]

Interesting coming back to the channel..always enjoy your content.

[@ste666666666]

Oh i wish i could just go back to windows vista lol, I was just so happy with that, It worked and did what i asked an operating system to do. Windows 10 is difficult to work with these days!

[@refurbishedaudio4090]

I used this software two weeks ago, it's actually great software to revive old machines with windows xp (using VirtualBox)

[@maxtornogood]

I love that this is being kept alive even in 2022!

[@AtoManPL]

XP aside, this seems to be the answer to the popular issue with 7 not updating properly I had on most computers. Will keep it in mind!

[@LellePrinter82]

Wow, this is awesome. Thanks for the information and demonstration Michael. Definitely gonna try this on some of my older laptops and notebooks. I love collecting older laptops. This should work on x64 win xp and vista x64 and server x64 versions aswell.

[@nvmarv]

Best fix out there.. just download the exe and away you go.. no extra coding to get it to work… beautiful!!

[@mr.techie8565]

👍👍👍 Edit: I did that in the middle of the video before I had watched the next part. THANK YOU!!! The driver thing will save me so much time!

[@WafflerWhite]

The part where Michael MJD said " W *SUS* " had me dying on the floor. 💀💀

[@NicolARark]

sussy update

[@randomcontent2089wastaken]

I use windows vista and i want to use the windows update system. I found this video, it really helped. Thanks Michael!

[@Bewefau]

there's a patch to download to get vista working pain in the ass but you can get it done with out this program.

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

Just wishing it was possible to do like the old wsus offline program and compile these updates to either slipstream or to burn to a disk to run and update the machine off the network as well. I'd love this notion even more if that was possible.

[@monkeywithocd]

I was very disheartened last time I installed Windows 7 only for Windows Update to not work. Glad to see there's a fix (I saw in the video that they mention Win7 on the page, just not at the top)

[@Kiki79250CoC]

The fix is just to install two or three update packages, the difference is you don't have to manually install them.

[@connorm955]

This will be a very handy thing for me with Windows 2000 because i like having all updates installed before i install the extended kernel

[@ViBENo1]

now that's cool. i have several restored/refurbished/tuned up old thinkpads and i also add a partition for the original OEM system. but updating is a pain in the ass with other manual methods. this tool makes things a lot easier.

[@jozsiolah1435]

It worked for me. First, you have to activate it using Media Player. After that, weeks of patience is needed. Using the updater, you have to try each day, if fails, you have to send the error to the server, if crashed, you have to try again. Make sure, you don’t move the mouse pointer. After the hdd led stops blinking, you finish for that day. After about 2-3 weeks, updates start to download. If you miss the yellow shield, you lose the updates for that day.

[@SaM64pes]

These guys who did the coding nice work!!

[@bpoolxantx15]

Just doing updates on old XP media center PC... great share...Thank you souch...👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😊

[@randipoling635]

Finallyyyyy! Ive had an SSD sitting in my drawer with a fully updated version of Vista Ultimate for my old HP Elitebook Workstation (updated before MS pulled the server Been afraid to have anything happen to it because I couldn't find the updates anymore). Been wanting to put Vista Ultimate on my old desktop, and now I can! Sweet!

[@BlindMansRevenge2002]

What would happen to it?

[@randipoling635]

@@BlindMansRevenge2002 lost, damaged.

[@nldestinyx1440]

Really cool! I've never actually used Windows XP as a daily driver, but I always found the update process rather interesting on XP

[@ncjudin]

Thank you so much! I'm installing 154 updates on my WinXP MCE PC now!

[@no-xu3eo]

Im reinstalling my computer

[@TheMC1X]

This is awesome!! I have a Pentium 4 laptop with Windows XP that I keep for older RS232 equipment and only updated it to SP3. This may come in handy :)

[@TheMC1X]

@333Orobas 666 It's a P4 HT from the S478 era with 1Gb DDR and Mobility Radeon 9100 graphics. It even runs Autocad 2009 without a hitch! Upgraded the laptop to a 120Gb SSD with an IDE 2.5" to SATA converter and it runs dang fast! The OG drive was barely alive, enough to make a backup, and the before and after is insane. It's snappier than my desktop Core 2 Duo Windows XP rig. I just want to have the POS2009 updates and all the all bits of upgrade I may have missed when I upgraded it from SP2 to SP3. Btw, thanks for your concerns and tips :)

[@lilmonix]

That's very good. I will be using it on my dad's E5800 computer. It's still running Windows XP SP2 and meets all of my dad's needs. December 17, 2022 12:32AM

[@PiercedJedi]

funny thing is, I found this video from the legacy update page when looking for ways to update Vista while watching a new video about running XP from an iPod :D thanks!

[@igeekone]

Good to see old versions of Windows can be still viable.

[@yrmuq]

They cant. Program simply allows you to download already released updates that are many years old. There are no new updates that would cover new vulnerabilities.

[@jaxcyl1-t4b]

@@yrmuq I highly doubt much is gonna happen on XP, And there's this really cool thing called an anti-virus too!

[@yrmuq]

@@jaxcyl1-t4b anti-virus can’t help with vulnerabilities)

[@jaxcyl1-t4b]

@@yrmuq it actually kinda can:) i highly doubt anybody is getting hacked on xp and i have never gotten a virus and i still use XP

[@yrmuq]

@@jaxcyl1-t4b nah, it’s just a survivorship bias. Many organizations was hacked, because they used outdated os. You can read in internet about it. That’s why you don’t safe, if you use outdated win xp even with antivirus :)

[@EternallyEmber-Hehe]

Ive been needing to deal with this problem on win 7 lately! Thanks!

[@mattsparks3546]

Now there needs to be an episode of you updating a copy of windows vista on the $5 windows 98 PC using legacyupdate

[@aurastrike]

I used this on my XP VM and I am so happy for this

[@binary8717]

Thank you! now i can install updates on my old netbook 😃

[@Pouya-]

Can we have a moment to appreciate him and legacy update for keeping this amazing windows alive and exciting. 👍 Thank you for 8 likes. 😊

[@allanmarsh1]

I'm assuming exciting rather than exiting? 😄

[@Pouya-]

@@allanmarsh1 yes auto correct always makes these small mistakes.

[@blainepalmerza]

Awesome video , Michael!

[@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli]

Back in 2009 when I was at RIT, some kid in Info Security said a raw install of Windows XP with no service packs would contract malware simply by plugging it into the internet raw for as little as 20 seconds. Granted, nowadays there's probably way fewer malicious sites polling and pinging around for Windows XP, and I have no idea how true that was in the first place, but it is fascinating thinking about old unpatched software daring to connect to the internet.

[@jaxcyl1-t4b]

Whoever told you that probably left his brain at home that day

[@TechNetworkUK]

I did not even know about this, this would be very handy since I have a ThinkPad with Windows XP

[@yodmin2522]

I could watch Michael do anything and still be entertained.

[@will0499]

Love your videos so much ❤❤❤

[@TheTrueCBaer]

Cool. Will try this next time retrocomputing.

[@cookieboy5300]

Holy Cookie Batman, just built a WinXP retro pc so perfect time to test. Cool Find! Thanks for the video :)

[@ayanrizvi8323]

thank you so much MJD this helped me alot

[@JeSuisUnePatate]

What a AWESOME little thing! Finally. Hopefully they'll add other language support as well as older Windows versions (9x, ME, 2000, 2003...). I'll wait for that. :)

[@aaaalex1994]

I've tried it with a Spanish Windows 2000 Professional VM and it works fine already

[@JeSuisUnePatate]

@@aaaalex1994 - Oh already? Even more awesome ! Thanks

[@Yavor0971]

Windows Update Restored, another project, supports 9x.

[@Fvission]

Awesome! Had to use LegacyUpdate v1.4.1 instead of the newest v1.5 otherwise I would get an error "The parameter is incorrect". This is on fresh install of Windows XP SP3. Seems to be working now.

[@SockyNoob]

Finally. Hopefully Microsoft doesn't attempt to take it down.

[@bagoly.brick.studio]

Cool! This worked on my Windows Vista machine. Thank you!

[@Se7enFanBoi]

I wish they made an legacy update app for every single Windows phone and the ipaq and others

[@gabrieldemelo8692]

thanks bro, you helped revive a machine with original windows xp.

[@baymurram]

A lot of thanks man! I have a last win xp support ibm pc (1156 socket) and my XP say you THANKS!

[@firat5025]

Huggge fan of your videos. I would love to have you on MSFN as an Extended Kernel developer

[@Linkintime1]

Sweet! What are your update habits for WIndows 95 and WIndows 98/ 98SE?

[@morebasheder]

I tried this earlier on my win 2000 box, but that has IE5 installed by default, so I had to download IE6 first 👍🏼

[@geofftottenperthcoys9944]

Cheers using it now on my VM of XP!

[@BanjoGate]

This is God's work for legacy... though part of me feels that if someone is using XP they are using a custom iso with updates and drivers slipstreamed into the installer anyway. Is there anything like this for 9x?

[@Bewefau]

just unoffical update packs you can dlownload.

[@saswatmishra3232]

Thank you so much Michael. I can install Windows Vista Extended Kernel easily.

[@Arkid77777]

Finally I can update my VMwares easily

[@aleksandrdimov05]

Windows XP SP2 is my favorite service pack of Windows XP.

[@aleksandrdimov05]

And also my favorite service pack of Windows Vista is SP2.

[@linknada]

Awesome! Thank you so much!!

[@windowsvista2653]

Yes!! Brilliant thankyou, I can reinstall vista and update it on my old Hp ! Yessss thankyou x

[@hugosimoes5119]

cool. I wonder if it can support Windows in other languages. Windows 2000/XP updates had to match locale and language of the update but with Vista onwards, each update had multiple languages.

[@BANJO500]

Sadly, it doesn't. I launched the program on an italian version of Vista Ultimate, and it gave me an error because my system doesn't match the language of the update files (english only)

[@hugosimoes5119]

@@BANJO500 THat's sad news. Maybe reporting the problem to the maintainer. Windows Vista+ updates are supposed to be language independent.

[@sburton015]

I wonder if this would work with Windows 98 or Windows ME.

[@lubomirvrana2158]

Just recently I found it on my own, it's very useful.

[@ShinyElGhosteo]

Ay yo thank you soooo much for this. I didn't realize they killed off the in built update until i reinstalled vista on a PC I got at a thrift store

[@atiatyagamer8050]

I was waiting for this

[@ChristoComputersAndGames]

man that will be soooo usefull on my windows xp and vista pcs

[@Gooberslot]

I wish it supported Win95/98. Still, this will be very useful if I ever build that XP box.

[@Cyber_Horse_Studios87]

Oh I am DEFINITELY using this as well.

[@-.-._.-.-._.-.-._.-.-._.-.-]

Nostalgie is still living

[@fetazihsp]

I think Microsoft should launch a "Definitive Edition" ou "Complete Edition" of older Windows, with all patchs, updates, service packs, hotfixes, and so on... There's a lot of users, especially retrocomputers fans! It would be very easy for ms to do, and make its fans happy