Windows XP on a Nintendo DS... Kinda (WintenDoS XP Demo)

On this day 20 years ago, Windows XP was released to general availability! There will be a proper XP video to celebrate, but for now we're going to explore a Windows XP simulator for the Nintendo DS!
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[@MichaelMJD]

A happy 20th Anniversary to Windows XP's retail release! There will be a proper video to celebrate coming soon. In the meantime, let's explore this fan-made XP simulator for the Nintendo DS! Also, be sure to check out my unboxing of the Japan-exclusive Windows 20th Anniversary Edition of XP that I published back in August! kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3XEgXaQbrKfb8k

[@musicalplayzyt]

Hi

[@chazrizz1234]

2nd :)

[@Kali_Krause]

I had no idea Windows XP simulator existed 😳

[@archivushka]

Happy birthday, XP

[@cirkulx]

20 years! Happy birthday Windows XP, and hello.

[@lucianothewindowsfan]

Fun fact: There was also an actual keyboard for the DS in Japan and Europe for an educational _Pokémon_ game.

[@sethlaskus5628]

also Australia

[@DevilischGamer]

i actually still have this

[@hugono3938]

Devlin Gerritsen aaaaa

[@raracool6531]

There was a gameboy slot expansion that also turned your entire DS into a mouse too

[@itryen7632]

Proof that Europe is more educated

[@QuantumScratcher]

If only there was a version of this for the 3DS... you'd get better resolution and a circle pad that makes navigation easier.

[@meringuesheaven7950]

There's a sorta similar Linux thing but it's *very* basic

[@mjdxp5688]

@@meringuesheaven7950 It's not necessarily. You can run Linux in its entirety on the 3DS, you're just limited by its lack of power.

[@meringuesheaven7950]

@@mjdxp5688 is there a program out there or are you just saying its possible? What I mean is that theres a simple guide to set up a basic version, not that you cant do more. Thats all

[@jadencoucopoulos2567]

@mjdxp How well would Linux run on the New Nintendo 3DS, considering it has more capable hardware than the original?

[@andyching168]

In 3DS we have a android simulator

[@LilyBloomVee]

God, it’s been so many years now since I last saw WintenDos. Good seeing it here and seeing it ever again!

[@CubeAtlantic]

This is givin' me nostalgic vibes rn tbqh.

[@zebraterabyteztproductions9595]

can wintendos work on the dsi?

[@djpainkiller3326]

@@zebraterabyteztproductions9595 it should I don’t see why I wouldn’t because the Nintendo DSI is a newer model Then the DS light and they both do the same thing when it comes to DS cartridges

[@ShadowEO]

@@zebraterabyteztproductions9595 as long as you use an NDS flashcard, or something like TWLMenu (ymmv with homebrew, doesn't work for my 3DS with homebrew, the dldi patch TWLMenu applies doesn't seem to work) it should work fine.

[@Treyshellz]

This is my first time seeing this

[@Electrex8]

This video has just solved a long running mystery in my house. We found that exact USB card reader a couple of years ago, and had no idea where it came from, but never threw it out just in case it was needed again. Now I've just seen it in your video (at 2:02) and it makes sense that it was in the drawer with the DS omg... thanks MJD!

[@Rahat-tw8vg]

I have the same thing with my r4 too, it's just a microsd reader so you can use it with any micro sd to plug it in your computer

[@muellerhans]

Why would you throw away working hardware especially if it's an adapter for a current standard? Gift it to somebody if you don't need it. It isn't ewaste so don't make it to ewaste.

[@Htiy]

@@muellerhans he literally said he never through it out anyway

[@bloodycinephile]

Wait so you also happened to find a DS?

[@muellerhans]

@@Htiy Yeah but instead of just saying that he is glad that he found out where the microSD reader is from, he mentioned that he had no idea where it came from and kept it just in case it was needed again. Which kind of implies that he might have thrown it away it if he knew where it came from and that this adapter is not really necessary nor special. It seems like that the person did not really know what a microSD card reader is (microSD card reader is printed on the reader btw). And there are people that just throw away stuff they don't find useful anymore. I wrote my comment to prevent some future ewaste (even if it is not the adapter but something else).

[@DaxtonAnderson]

Most people: >plays DS Emulator on Windows MichealMJD: "Hold by beer"

[@2010ngojo]

You mean "hold my DS Lite screen". Because the hinge is fucked up.

[@blankpage9277]

"Hold my DS stylus."

[@SirSans842]

Correction: Hold my windows xp ds

[@nareshkrp]

Correction: Hold my windows xp ds lite

[@weegeenumberone2]

Correction: Hold my DS Because the hinge is in turn, fucked up.

[@mspeter97]

There was an actual port of Mini vMac for the DS though. It was a bit clunky but it was 100% useable

[@cirkulx]

Mini vMac is good, so that will be interesting.

[@jussapitka6041]

Oh I wanna see that

[@ShadowEO]

I believe it was updated for the 3DS as well, so it's been receiving SOME sort of updates. I think there might be a basiliskII port as well, but I can't quite remember.

[@TechKing19]

Oh I remember that! Playing around on OS 6 or 7 during a power outage, a decade ago. I played with Wintendos a lot too, this video brought be so many memories.

[@speakertomeat]

There's also a plan9 port

[@benny21293]

The „Boot Slot-2“ option is used to start NDS Software in the GBA Slot. In the early days of DS Flashcarts they were using the GBA Slot and required special firmware on the DS because the DS Card Slot (Slot-1) hadn‘t been cracked yet.

[@kurnma3776]

The homebrew scene does give us some interesting works of art.. art compiled for zoomer-age ARM processors within a proprietary OS that hasn't been maintained for years.

[@awesomeferret]

You say that as if this is a new phenomenon though... People were developing impressive stuff for relatively unwanted hardware for decades before Zoomers entered the scene.

[@kerbmario]

Thats great!

[@kurnma3776]

@@awesomeferret Also when I mean “zoomer-age” I mean like the age of a zoomer

[@awesomeferret]

@@kurnma3776 then why not just state that decade?

[@pedrocardiel1026]

@@kurnma3776 you zillenials

[@Lim95]

Great you’re uploading it in its birthday!

[@fran13r]

i nearly died laughing as you used the og ds to support the lite's screen lmfao

[@djungbo4462]

@Yeroc64 yo mama

[@yoboijom4367]

@Yeroc64 where did this come from

[@gmdking]

@Yeroc64 no u

[@zilchfox]

I used to do something similar to this on a PSP. I actually ended up making my own version of "Windows XP" using Macromedia Flash, loaded in the browser. Honestly, it worked surprisingly well, although it obviously didn't do anything beyond opening some menus and was almost entirely for show, but it was hella cool regardless.

[@FoBro91]

Super cool homebrew app! Pretty impressive that they were able to simulate as much as they could with the limitations of the DS. If you want to try a similar concept for another video, the Nintendo 3DS has a version of Dosbox available for it. Would be interesting to see if you could at least get one version of windows running on it.

[@alfiegordon9013]

I think I remember a hackaday post or something about someone doing win95 on that

[@trashtrash2169]

The retroarch version of dosbox runs games well enough, but there's no on screen keyboard, which makes a few genres of the era impossible to play and others harder fo play.

[@romanescu76]

There was dosbox for the 3DS????

[@trashtrash2169]

@@romanescu76 Yeah, I think it runs well, but I don't really use it, the games I'd usually be playing are point and click which scummvm runs perfectly.

[@sebastiangudino9377]

Dosbox is not that great if you don't have a New 3DS. But there was one emulator for REGULAR DS (It was called x86 something I think) that actually worked even better (And yes, it is running under the DS chip. Not taking advantage of the power of the 3DS)

[@ppprime98K]

I remember there was a "Windows 95" like thingy for the NES that was pretty much like this, everything was useless and was basically a window clicker and that's all. I think that's the most appropiate way to describe these programs, they aren't more than a window clicker simulator.

[@JasonBoon02]

Yeah Joel from Vinesauce did a stream/video on that as well, and he even corrupted the ROM to get similar results as to what Michael experienced when WintenDos glitched out

[@CubeAtlantic]

ℹ️'ve think the (Windows xP-Simulator) is way more doper, & A1-quality.

[@clementpoon120]

it's the bootleg chinese windows 95 for nes

[@KatJustice97]

Pretty sure Michael did a video on this too, though I can't recall the name of it at the moment

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

I've had an R4 card for like 5 years and it revolutionez what i could do with my DS. Emulator central, Especially DSx86 to play duke nukem and other early EGA games.

[@ikbintom]

This was a lot of fun! I'd love more Nintendo DS videos!

[@MichaelMJD]

There's at least one more coming! : )

[@snowytuna6602]

@Michael MJD I'm X-ited

[@ikbintom]

@@MichaelMJD yay 😁

[@MarwanMansour-wb7lj]

Windows phone app store Google play app store optimization yes

[@MandraMockups]

Suggestion: how about linux history, like the windows history videos? i think that could breath some life into the channel

[@Wheagg]

13:03 I'm guessing the dev didn't anticipate more lines than would fit, so instead of scrolling it goes off screen and wraps all the way around.

[@Wheagg]

@Youdubham ok but what's that got to do with the comment

[@Wheagg]

@Youdubham ok

[@Strashky]

thats not the only thing the devs didnt anticipate. This programme is a complete mess

[@Wheagg]

@@Strashky go on

[@DavidWonn]

I get the impression that an older version of Windows CE would be more suitable on a DS.

[@bow-89]

Yeah

[@andresbravo2003]

Yeah, bet you never seen it coming. Happy 20th Anniversary to Windows XP!!

[@steventechno]

I never played with this one back in the day, but I used to really love using PSPWXP on the PSP. almost felt like I had a UMPC to an extent. good days!

[@iamboredfor2months]

I LOVE PSPWXP

[@BrawlingHedgehog]

Oh, this is funny. Brings back memories, and made me wanna play around with it again. Thanks for covering this, let alone as a stand-in for an XP anniversary video. Just as a side note, the homebrew doesn't use the generated save file at all. That's just what the R4 menu defaults to asking for any application. Later versions and alternative menus would detect homebrew as such and skip that prompt, since the rare homebrew that would want to save something would just use the actual SD filesystem instead. (Which is especially useful when it comes to emulators and savestates.)

[@jonrk2]

I remember getting an R4i card for my DSi, not for the "endless games", but to run just this! It was terribly awesome

[@aeriumfour6096]

The next WintenDoS is just going to be GamePass on Switch

[@AmoralTom]

I only ever used homebrew applications on my R4. *Winks aggressively*

[@Graut-c9m]

Computer nerds who happen to also be gamers remember when we used to use and make Windows emulators on consoles all the time through web applications. It was definitely a thing on PSP, where the browser supported flash. Windows Vista and Mac OS X were two that i remember. There was some website called DSi Play that had a similar thing for their browser, but that wasn't available when the DSi was still a thing anyway.

[@MegaKirb]

coming back to your channel after 2 years makes me realize how much you’re like dankpods but of everything

[@brainium7167]

You always find a way to put windows on everything!

[@CutieFakeKirby]

Windows 10 on a Samsung refrigerator please, if it dosent work, do 7 or xp or smth

[@cameroncole06]

@@CutieFakeKirby XD

[@ZwaetschgeRaeuber]

true, its so overhyped. all cars and houses have windows. even boats and planes.

[@abandonedchannel1010]

@@ZwaetschgeRaeuber windows xp runs on houses

[@MegaManNeo]

There's one like that for the PSP as well which I loved to use back in the day. Doesn't even need a modded system as it runs inside the browser. I just can not recall the name :/

[@ImRealizee]

PSPWXP

[@MegaManNeo]

@@ImRealizee Oh my, that's it! Thank you! 😄

[@MrJ0mmy]

hello you should watch the video i made running full windows 3.0 on the nintendo ds and do a video on it and its link to files are in description of the video and its preconfigured so no need to set up drivers ect

[@sonicwang669]

i never thought the ds would be able to run full windows os :)

[@WinXP_SP1]

I love this.

[@dorian4426]

God I wish we could have something like this for the Vita

[@toby3084]

running Linux or BSD on a handheld sounds amazing

[@STICKOMEDIA]

Same bro

[@JuhanLiiv1547]

@@toby3084 Aren't they already based off Linux/Unix already xd

[@markhicks5471]

🤣😂

[@toby3084]

@@JuhanLiiv1547 not all of them, Nintendo only switched to BSD with the switch, but not just on a console, a handheld BSD system sounds perfect, I'm not too keen on Linux

[@joevaghn457]

I remember when this guy had like... only a couple 10 thousand subs... man, you're channel has grown in size. congrats!!

[@Oxymoron32GB]

I remember AGES ago finding a video on how to install XP on a DS... and the video just screamed at me. Like, it was a clickbait video which just plays an earsplitting scream noise for whoever clicks it. Oddly specific memory that THIS video brought back. :p

[@jonrk2]

"How to put windows vista on a dsi" ... some person literally putting the windows install disk on a dsi, and me wondering why it wasn't working for me

[@TheLivingCatastrophe]

That takes me back

[@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891]

Huge respect to you sir for keeping (and using) the Original R4 for this NDS XP thing, still have mine and kicking since 2007 but lost all the Packaging. Thanks for the nostalgia! =D

[@OfficialRey202X]

Happy massive birthday to Windows XP! 🥳

[@fabian999ification]

I'm guessing how the bee movie script crashed the notepad application, is because it was trying to load the whole thing into memory and a buffer overflow occurred, possibly overflowing into a non-data area, such as the notepad program or display memory, thus corrupting it. This is a common problem in notepad programs, where they just try to shove the whole thing into memory (i.e. default notepad in Windows does this, and ends in a memory overflow error if the filesize is too large). A better way is to load one chunk at a time into a buffer (such as 512 bytes of data), which would be the viewing area. Then when you scroll, it loads the next chunk into the same memory area, therefore making indefinite file sizes possible (I think notepad++ does this. Try loading a massive file, even multiple MB, and it's almost instantaneous).

[@1bitjay]

Thanks for explaining!

[@DogsRNice]

I don’t think it crashed since it’s probably not a separate application from the rest of it and everything still worked and minesweeper probably reloaded everything Looks like it just overwrote a ton of non essential ram

[@NoahClevinger]

Happy Birthday to Windows XP! It was a major part of my childhood and it's easily one of my favorite Windows operating systems. I mean, who doesn't love 3D Pinball Space Cadet?

[@zigaudrey]

13:03 This is the best reaction ever! Welcome to minus world! A shame that it couldn't use the touched screen at full potential. It's like you have a computer screen up there and keyboard and mouse down there. It have potential, except it doesn't adapt the DS capability. If they have a Bluetooth for the key board and mouse, then you have a mini computer! 21:06 Now, this is what I am talking about!

[@aceblaze8844]

Lmao

[@StephenChapman]

First, Minesweeper. Next, Crysis.

[@cutieclysm]

yessss windows XP's birthday!!!! *and* a new video from michael!!!! 🥳😻❤

[@HenrysSpiceofLife]

2:29 I suffered the same situation with my O3DS back in February. It had gotten a crack on it’s right hinge and it got so bad that by April, I was no longer able to play it due to my fear that the hinge would give way, the top screen would come undone, and I’d lose all of my data. Got an XL now and have had it for a few months now. Am having a blast!

[@knbnoob1]

This video got me both into retro computers and retro gaming. I salute you for this! 👍

[@MichaelMJD]

Thank you so much!

[@0starya7mar]

I hope Nintendo and Microsoft don't get mad XD

[@RadinTheXPguy]

A legend used by a legend... You are a legend Michael how can I say to you?! I'm your BIGGEST IRANIAN FAN FOR SURE but when you upload this video , it was mid night in iran LOVE❤️🙂

[@calebwilbanks2871]

It might be very possible to run Windows CE. CE is made for ARM based systems mostly. And the specs aren't too far off of what would a CE system would be.

[@r4microds]

Might wanna swap out that original R4 firmware for a TTMenu firmware. Its fully compatible on the R4 but is far more up to date and supports properly booting more games & homebrew.

[@tjeerdtrekkie1030]

I like how selecting is on the Y button instead of the A button

[@andycopeland7051]

Hey this was a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing. Can't believe it's been 20 years

[@TV3TOT]

If Wintendo 10 exist my brain is broke.

[@iimeddzxx4041]

Bro i love your amazing videos 😍♥️♥️

[@MAIcrosoft]

It's funny how you called Moonshell the MP3/Audio player because it resembles a Desktop OS miles ahead of the WintenDoS stuff you showed lol. Like seriously you should look into it, cause it's straight up almost its own OS replacement for the DS and you can do much more than listening to audio. It also supports skins so if you apply a Windows XP skin (or maybe just not haha, the default skin is a lot better) it will come a lot closer to Windows XP than the stuff you showed off in this video to be honest.

[@jdatlas4668]

I mean, I've tried Linux on my DS back in the day, but Windows is new. Anyway, happy birthday, WinXP!

[@BopDiva]

I just found out about the retail release date yesterday, and I was going to make a video about it, but my Windows XP computer is at my house and I'm at my college dorm right now watching this video. I remember Windows XP when I was little. My mom had a computer that I used to play Blue's Clues games on and it was a Windows XP computer. My first system personally was Windows Vista. But I think Windows XP was one of the most memorable systems that us 2000s kids will never forget.

[@justingameshowchannel7668]

happy 20th years to my fav os

[@TomikMapping]

Windows 10 and 11 has 2 column menus on Windows 10: 1st column on left: apps list 2nd column on the right: live tiles on Windows 11: 1st column on top: pinned apps 2nd column on bottom: recommended

[@MrFacio85]

Windows XP on a PSP?????

[@prestoncorless2980]

Dang that's a pretty faithful recreation... They even got it crashing as often as Windows

[@NinjaPheonix26]

“I have a Windows XP on a DS”

[@rolandkatsuragi]

0:31 Funnily enough, many global military operations still use XP because it's the foundation of multiple critical functions.

[@ShadowEO]

WintenDoS does that weird glitchiness because it's maxing out the amount of memory on the console. It's a problem we ran into with the MENUdo project while making themes for it, if the images were too big, or if we put too many options/animations in one page of it, we'd max out the RAM and get the same crash behavior. Very sad that we never got to release a full version of MENUdo, the web backend was feature complete and did work, I believe the source code was put up for download, and has variables to allow custom servers, but I have been lazy and haven't tried to fix it..

[@SlavTiger]

What if it we used in conjunction with the somewhat rare ds memory expander card?

[@ShadowEO]

@@SlavTiger unfortunately, the card doesn't inherently add to system memory, it needs the program to not only be aware of it's existence but made to use it iirc (it's been a while since I've done any research into the GBA RAM cart).

[@SlavTiger]

@@ShadowEO but with some tweaks that feature could be added

[@ShadowEO]

@@SlavTiger potentially, if the source is still available, it may also be a number of other factors, but that's the one that sticks out to me as the most likely. At this point though, it would likely be more worthwhile to update it for DSi/3DS support so it makes use of the expanded memory in those consoles, but as you see in the videos, these ended up being pretty much tech demos.

[@Nakasuki_YT]

Nice walkthrough bro

[@UltraPoyoColt]

This is cool! I never knew the ds could be a computer:-)

[@plazmasyt]

Hey, something that might be interesting to check out is 3DS Linux if you can get that going. I never did, but apparently it's real Linux that loads as a replacement to your 3DS' Home menu. I still have my doubts that it's actually legit but maybe you could find out sometime.

[@LiamNajor]

Nah, Linux could totally run on a 3ds

[@DogsRNice]

@@LiamNajor I’m pretty sure there’s a version of Linux for the original ds too

[@1creeperbomb]

DSLinux: "You dare challenge me mortal?"

[@EneaX6]

13:04 is my sleep paralysis demon

[@maxwasson2000]

Wonder if we'll get an XP retrospective

[@awesomeferret]

So you commented but didn't hear the first minute of the video... Okay.

[@dollardealtech768]

13:03 It looks like the bees escaped the text and stung your DS

[@RisingRevengeance]

I did something similar on my PSP back in the day, absolutely useless but cool!

[@ImRealizee]

pspwxp?

[@awesome_dude332]

I completely forgot about this homebrew! I remember downloading it one time for my r4.

[@jamespearson6285]

Oh, come on! I was going to make a reaction video since I thought you'd upload your video today, but you ended up delaying it! At least I get some free time...

[@Kali_Krause]

Nice Missingno reference! 👍

[@torreip3012]

As a native French speaker the second part of the video made me laugh so much haha

[@Arlan64]

La même xD

[@jd-dev]

ahh, toi aussi X)

[@SueZQue83]

This little guy was more powerful then we’ve ever imagined

[@doisti-kun]

Now updating the Windows mii (ME) in the wii to XP to hehe :P just kiding, but that would be cool actually

[@RingoBuns]

Just gotta say, I love the inclusion of more flashy editing. It’s not too much but not too little. Ya did good, kid. Ya did good.

[@Deezboyofficial]

i have a dsi xl, and i used to have an r4(i) card, the way it works is it fakes being an actual game so you can access it from the home screen which is funny because mine showed up as miami beach nights

[@musicalplayzyt]

Mjd is the best KZbinr in the world I always watch you HAPPY BDAY WINDOWS XP! BEST OS OF ALL TIME

[@superamigo987]

This is so cool. The ds was amazing for pirating

[@hackwrench5583]

There's actually a similar experiment that's much older than this. Windows 3.1 on the Game Gear. You can find it at SMS Power, it's called Windows for the GG.

[@nordicohahah]

Yo that Windows XP themed DS in the thumbnail looks sick

[@xt6997]

I personally dislike people who joke about apple removing stuff yet keep buying their products.

[@Arc5Gaming]

That DS thumbnail is actually pretty cool! 😭💀😭

[@TechLookYT]

Michael Please do a face reveal

[@CajonPassStudios]

If he wants to remain incognito, he can stay that way, so don't pressure him.

[@Galt-Khas-fu2jg7xo7s]

No, no no no no no no no no no no NOOOOOO

[@qzrl6]

​@@Galt-Khas-fu2jg7xo7she did face reveal

[@NatetheNintendofan]

​@@CajonPassStudiosI vote he does one at one million subscribers

[@mischiefthedegenerateratto7464]

I vote you mind your own business and let him do what he likes.​@@NatetheNintendofan

[@knnoko2712]

The R4 was so popular here, that any type of homebrew or piracy that was done, regardless of any cartridge, everyone used the term r4 to refer to all cartridges of the kind

[@JosephWatson04]

I remember the day my Mum surprised me and my twin sister with DS's with an R4 card in each with all the big titles of the time. Never owned an actual copy of pokemon diamond until 2016.

[@smjmjjfaj]

I remember having my Android phone with a similar desing back in 2012, i dont remember if it was a rom or just an app but it was fucking cool

[@ItsRickysChannelSHORTS]

"Wintendos"? Right, I am friggin done! XD

[@SRixolino19]

I like the part of all video when he say "Hello everybody, and welcome back to another video"

[@domi1347]

14:36 oh wow, it even mimics windows xp perfectly even when something weird is going on by drawing active things on top of the mess

[@DeadwaterGaming]

MJD Gaming channel when? But for real, you're hilarious. I really wanna see you play video games, don't care if they're vintage or new, it'd be great either way.

[@Sparkette]

My DS flashcart came with a USB microSD reader. Or should I say, *inside* of a USB microSD reader. I had to open the (oversized) shell of the card reader, and the cartridge was there next to the PCB. I suspect this was done as a way to sneak it past customs, as the content of the package was declared as a USB card reader.

[@chrxsfn]

happy 20 years to windows xp, outstanding operating system

[@RadinTheXPguy]

Thank you very much ❤️🥰 .. I was 20 yesterday

[@RomeroNobody]

a remember to use this homebrew like 15 years ago, feels

[@jeefius]

I was going to suggest running a virus on it but that text file basically did the job.

[@idellhpcompaq]

I was so obsessed with this as a kid, I done the windows vista on PSP

[@shrimpfry880]

it's officially retro now

[@milesnetwork69]

*HAPPY BIRTHDAY WINDOWS XP!*

[@milesnetwork69]

AZERTY Also is not a quitter

[@12fishcake]

It's pretty incredible what the original DS was capable of for it's time really, far more than just a gameboy upgrade

[@ChapOnRoblox]

Him: what does save do? *ad pops up* Me: oh, ads on WintenDos.