Why I Switched To Firefox ...

[@finkelmana]

Firefox on Android supports extensions, which means adblockers. No more annoying YT ads while I am out to lunch and watching a video on my phone. _________________________ Edit: A lot of people are pointing out other browsers and apps block ads. I am well aware, but those arent the *ONLY* extensions I use. It was just an example.

[@no_name4796]

Yup Although youtube it's buggy on firefox

[@memestcat]

If you want true adblocking, I reccomend using revanced as firefox mobile is laggy and buggy

[@comrade_rahul_1]

@@no_name4796 It has some bugs on Firefox Nightly but almost all Yt bugs are fixed on Firefox release version.

[@silentobserver9095]

You should give KZbin Revanced a try.

[@marcely1199]

@@finkelmana Have tried it in the past, but I felt very unsatisfied. The kiwi browser is a decent alternative with support for extensions based on Chromium that is as stable as any other browser

[@autohmae]

I've been on Firefox main for as long as Firefox exists. But we actually need more people on Firefox, because we NEED more browser engines in the market, we can't have this monoculture, that's really bad from a security and web standards perspective.

[@Spidey_Spidey]

bro need to check librewolf

[@pvtack]

Other Firefox based browsers like waterfox should be promoted also.

[@autohmae]

@@pvtack I can not, as far as I know Waterfox doesn't get regular security updates. Anything you connect to the Internet needs security updates

[@anon_y_mousse]

@@autohmae Personally, I'd like to see the existing web technology trio, HTML/CSS/JS, get wiped out and replaced. Unfortunately, every website operator would need to switch to whatever alternative was provided and because the monoculture is easier and with Chrome having such significant market share, it'll never have a hope of ever happening. This is the only reason I still promote Firefox, because every browser sucks now, but breaking the monopoly could go a long way towards fixing things.

[@lussor1]

We have to pray for Ladybird

[@AlucardNoir]

I wish more firefox users were like you as opposed to "I use FF because it's not chromium".

[@nikkehtine]

Not wanting to use Chromium is still valid in my eyes since more variety/competition is a good thing. However Firefox is much more than just "an alternative to Chromium-based browsers" and it's nice that he paints a bigger picture.

[@DefCantGame]

I use Firefox at home, for dev work, at work, and encourage my users to switch to Firefox, Mozilla totally doesn't have a sign held up in front of me to type this

[@AlucardNoir]

@@nikkehtine Congrats to you and the people that unironically liked your reply on proving my point for me. Thank you. If the only reason you use FF is because it's not Chrome or Chromium based then congrats, you literally have no reason to use it. Competition isn't good unto itself any more than choosing to use something because it's not something else is a valid reason. If FF has even 1 feature you think makes it superior to any chromium based browser then you actually have a reason to use, but if the only reason you use FF is because you want there to be competition for Chrome then congrats, you literally have no idea how markets and competition works. You are artificially propping up Firefox. And you are surprised people move away from it? FF at one time had 34% of the global market. Now they have 3%. Competition is good if it results in better goods and services. It's not the end goal unto itself any more than it's good unto itself. It's the end results of competition that make it so desirable. What you just wrote is dogmatic nonsense that can only result in worse products and services for the sake of "competition". Talking about FF on the internet brings all the people that either failed or should have failed econ 101 out of the woodwork. How lacking must your understanding of economy be for you to actually write that BS? There's a reason why competition is good and you clearly have no idea what it is. I really hope this comment enlightens you.

[@balsalmalberto8086]

I'm a Firefox user first but I use ungoogled chromium when firefox doesn't work. Even Ungoogled Chrome makes me feel dirty

[@Person01234]

I use firefox because I've always used firefox. Since way back when I realised Internet Explorer was garbage, I have used firefox. There is nothing about chrome that has ever enticed me. If I were to have to switch to a chromium based browser for resource reasons, I would probably just use Edge. Firefox has better adblocking capability and I see absolutely no reason to stop using what I am comfortable with just so I can go over to a browser that is fundamentally controlled by a corporation like google of all things, not a company I really wish to support or feed all my data to. If that's a problem for you then k my a. That being said I have been wary of where mozilla has been going and am keeping librewolf open as an alternative. It's not a dogma, it's a browser.

[@comrade_rahul_1]

12 years of using Firefox and still going strong. It's 'your' browser even if you don't dig into about:config.

[@Deathrape2001]

Firefox is $hit compared 2 Supremium, on XP, & even worse compared 2 Thorium on everything after. The only advantage is a few 'Firefox Only' type addons, which iWill experiment with 'transation' addons 2 get working on Supremium =) iMainly run XP because overall everything after is absolute krap, & Linux is even worse =P

[@paladin4511]

I prefer Firefox dev tools to chrome's dev tools especially on Firefox dev edition

[@TheChadXperience909]

I'll second that!

[@BobMotster]

My go to browser at work. Wouldn't do animations nor improve accessibility with any other browser.

[@vitalysuper3193]

Can’t say it has any advantages especially if we compare to Edge s devtools (those who ever used it love it)

[@diegoxl59]

In my case, I use Firefox Dev mainly, but don't know why the devtools are very slow when selecting HTML elements. Edge dev tools are faster in that case

[@vitalysuper3193]

@@diegoxl59 because Google didn’t update dev tools for 10 years and it’s the worst piece of software in the world. Every time I open devtools I think like how they managed to make it so bad, ux is just uhhh, they just don’t care!

[@piekay7285]

I noticed a small mistake: Gecko is the browser Engine. Quantum was a big update, that improved among other things the Firefox engine using parts of the Servo project.

[@Deathrape2001]

They can rename 'chrome' 2 whatever but it's not gecko or whatever else. It's Chrome, including all it's flaws. They even removed the 'compatibility app' 2 pretend it's not, but it is. They do this because they make their money from Joogle paying them 2 B the default serach engine, not 4 'browser performance'. Google paid them 2 destroy their own product, & they don't care = they get paid 2 burn their own house down, so Y should they? LOL

[@vikkran401]

I have been using Firefox (vanilla) for 10+ years and its still my go to browser. While you mentioned it did offer alot of customization on the surface, it offers even more deep down and you can basically make the browser look and act however you want it

[@bluealt4936]

userchrome.css

[@tfksworldoflinux]

I also like the multi account containers and simple tabgroups extensions.

[@Lewdiculous]

These are the real killer features for me. Simple Tab Groups and Multi Account Containers are priceless. Another thing for me personally is just how customizable it is, using CSS you can really make Firefox into anything.

[@tfksworldoflinux]

@@Lewdiculous Yeah. And then there is also Facebook container which redirects all facebook content to there. So Facebook can't spy on you.

[@robonator2945]

while I agree about the multi-account implementation being better than chromium's "profile" system, tab-groups are a native feature in chromium. They even recently added the option to "save tab groups" which means you can close the tab group and restore it at any time. (they, annoyingly, call this "hiding" the tab group) However, this is unfortunately incompatible with existing tab-suspension extensions such as TMS, and it's not a direct replacement either. I wish things like Treestyletab (which already completely overhaul how tabs are tracked and displayed anyway) were able to implement transparent tab-suspension somehow, so that no matter how many tabs you had "open" they wouldn't actually load unless you were using them. Even on chrome browsers once you start getting hundreds or thousands of tabs, suspended or not, opening the browser will make things CRAWL. (if not crash) We really need a browser that has a decent way of *_actually_* suspending tabs, as in, "just save them to disk, and restore them seamlessly whenever I actually need them". Most tabs take, max, a few megabytes to store completely with something like the single-file extension. That means you could store literally thousands of tabs in a few gigabytes of space. (far less if you used compression since, let's be real, HTML and javscript repeat themselves, a lot.) If it were possible for something like Treestyletab to suspend and restore tabs on it's own then you could open as many tabs at once as you want, and none of them would actually draw any resources because they aren't actually loaded. Just lie to the user that the tab is there, and when they click on it, *_THEN_* load it into memory from disk.

[@ppandgg]

this feature is goated, along with the sideberry extension.

[@myryk]

Mozilla is apparently working on tab grouping, but we'll see how long its gonna take. (and if its any good)

[@epochphilosophy]

Yo dude, just wanted to say your editing has gotten much more clean! Very nice animations. Very fitting for the content you make, too.

[@MichaelNROH]

Thanks

[@alals6794]

Maybe he outsourced it....

[@MrDowntemp0]

I like firefox. I love librewolf

[@Scorpwind]

Ayo, a fellow LibreWolf user.

[@BunnyRabbit.]

What other benefits are there in librewolf compared to Firefox except for privacy?

[@cape41]

I would use librewolf but some websites don't work properly with it (twitch) and I don't feel like installing two browsers :/ It's a shame because I really like librewolf's privacy features and the overall direction of the project

[@centy64]

@@Scorpwind There are dozens of us! ​ @BunnyRabbit. None really, privacy is the point, it's just more convenient to have all the best privacy options done for you rather than doing it manually to firefox.

[@ryoukaip]

@@BunnyRabbit. clear everything so my ADHD brain doesn't keep a thousand tabs open lol

[@coerce1]

Autoscrolling is something I didn't even know I missed about Windows. Thanks for the tip!

[@nDman]

From 2005 Firefox is my main browser, I use other browsers just for that sites aren't compatible with it.

[@captainoddessy]

Using firefox a daily divers over a year now

[@seebaastian]

using firefox as my daily driver since forever.

[@dirty-moto]

I think most users switched to it around 2005? I'm not sure what is taking people so long!

[@jaend6924]

@@dirty-moto pretty sure most people switched FROM it to Chrome around 2012. I definitely used Firefox during the XP and early Win 7 era until Chrome's selections of extensions became superior. only recently with Google increasingly going spyware and adware that people are coming back to Firefox.

[@tolga.yenici]

I am using the Firefox since its release. It had bad times. But at the end of the day (I mean currently) the Firefox is, for me, better than any browser.

[@balsalmalberto8086]

There's so few crashes now days for me at least. There was some rough periods definitely.

[@stormshelterdave]

I used to use Firefox until I moved to another country. I could not speak the language, at the time, so website translation functionality was a must. Translation functionality was just better in to Chrome (even better in Edge). Having recently moving my gaming PC to Linux I have noticed that Firefox implemented a beta translation tool that is now just as good as the others. So now I am back to Firefox. On my Mac however Safari is still king for Spacial Audio and my AirPods ;)

[@lussor1]

Just use TWP extension

[@DrewnioQ]

@@lussor1 +1, TWP is even better and faster at translating than native Firefox tool

[@centy64]

@@DrewnioQ The built in tool is done on the system the TWP extension connects to another service (google or yandex) which might not bother most people but is very desirable to some.

[@xard64]

Been a Firefox user since 2004. One thing I also love about the Firefox is how Firefox handles the profiles. It's very easy to migrate from Windows to macOS to Linux just by copy and pasting the profile and it just works and everything is stored locally with no need for online accounts. The profile system also allows launching multiple windows with different user profiles in them easily: this feature out of the box is really life saver in development. (Also I generally like the development tools in Firefox compared to Chrome)

[@lussor1]

Have you ever tried Brave?

[@monGarz]

I don't expect a non-technical user to do this, but many "incompatible" sites work just fine if you lie to them with the user agent string.

[@jumblemann]

it works.. this is just perfect. on some websites i really have firefox incompability issues but with this one it seems to work(for now)

[@te-wei]

Firefox is the descendant of Netscape, this alone is enough for me to use it.

[@majoramarix]

Why?

[@BlogingLP]

Really? Is it going that far back?

[@fiverZ]

@@BlogingLP yes

[@Perisemiotics]

oh the nostalgia... Netscape, those were the days

[@BlogingLP]

@@fiverZ Interesting if true

[@JessicaFEREM]

KDE plasma will enable middle click "AutoScrolling" in Plasma 6.2. apparently it's a feature in LibInput but nobody has implemented it into the GUI yet, and for wayland that means you don't get auto-scrolling at all.

[@rollinglounge]

Niceee that's super good to hear

[@wjckc79]

All in all this Plasma release is shaping up to be a UI game changer.

[@bludclone]

as soon as i saw chrome disabled ublock, i knew it was time to switch.

[@G-3-A-R-Z]

You can add css files for themes. They also have a color palette extension. You can also move favorites and extension to the top bar to save pace.

[@daleanderson1727]

Good stuff. Clear, to the point & you didn't wander off track too much. Keep up the good work.

[@judewestburner]

PWA support is a bit of a deal clincher for me. I would always opt for a PWA over a full app where I can, it means less footprint on my computer, and it's a small thing but I jump between phones and tablets both iOS and Android, to be able to install and use the app in question without having to go through the stores is like a gift

[@quantumangel]

20 years ago I asked my friends about the cute icon with the orange fox. They told me it was a web browser. Haven't used anything else as my main browser since that day.

[@no_name4796]

Honestly it makes sense firefox support linux very well After all linux distros are the only OS which come with firefox preinstalled. And probably a big part of firefox usage is on linux. So unlike chrome or edge which both have their own prioritary OS (android, windows) and linux is irrelevant to them, mozilla probably cannot just ignore linux

[@unnainconnu9098]

This wasn't always the case. Search for "Form Elements in Firefox 12 February 2004" for example.

[@KarriOjala]

It was nice to see your chat on Tech Over Tea! Thanks.

[@ravener83]

Wow I didn't know about the screenshot tool in Firefox, that's pretty useful. I agree with the wayland support, Firefox is much more pleasant to use, I'm a laptop touchpad user so I rely a lot on the two finger swipe to go back a page and it doesn't work on Chrome since it's X11 by default, yes I can change chrome to use wayland and make it work but then Chrome does not respect my font scaling settings and just looks awful. Nonetheless I keep chrome on the side as a backup and I mainly also got it to try PWAs when I first learned about them.

[@ent2220]

here's an advice - don't use wayland like me it's a massive massive downgrade in terms of functionality, even without any bugs, just to gain a little bit of performance - totally not worth it and completely overhyped devs have been wasting their time on it - it has no future

[@ravener83]

@@ent2220 I disagree, wayland has been all positive for me and I cannot go back to X11 now, especially touchpad gestures and gnome feels smoother here in wayland. I'm looking forward for the future.

[@ent2220]

@@ravener83 you're a casual then basically. Wayland treats windows as simple rectangles and has no access to what's in them is all you need to know. In X11 it has full access to absolutely everything, so there's a lot you can do with that. Wayland would have to changed from the ground up to support this because this is its base functionality. In other words a brand new display server would need to be made.

[@ravener83]

@@ent2220 It works for me, no idea why you are suddenly spreading Wayland hate on my comment, if you prefer X11 then good for you but I'm satisfied here.

[@BlogingLP]

The cool thing of Firefox is that you can actually harden it so it gives off as little privacy compromising things as possible so yeah Firefox my not be the Browser King, but it definitely is the Privacy king if hardened

[@SnowDaemon]

Firefox is the best browser experience on Debian/Ubuntu. I use popOS and Firefox is extremely fast, smooth, clean, and looks good. I will say though, I tried Firefox on my Fedora40 laptop the other day, and it was SUPER buggy. I think that must have something to do with Fedora being "bleeding-edge" though.

[@garrettrinquest1605]

Nah. Firefox works great on Arch (btw). It's probably just a Fedora thing

[@SnowDaemon]

@@garrettrinquest1605 Arch isn't bleeding edge like Fedora

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

@@SnowDaemon weird about the Fedora thing, I'm running Fedora Kinoite (immutable Fedora with KDE) on a laptop and Firefox is just fine there 😅 Also *woohoo* Pop!_OS

[@CanuckGod]

Weird, I've had zero problems with Firefox on my Fedora 40 KDE install. Or really, on any of my Linux systems for that matter, since I also use that on my laptop running Linux Mint 22. And of course, my main PC running Windows 11 also has Firefox as my default browser.

[@SamuelSmith-v5i]

I fully decided to switch about a week ago. Transitioning is way, way easier than I thought if you just force yourself to use it. First thing I did was change the fonts to similar to that on Chrome, as otherwise fonts look pretty bad on some websites. I've used Chrome for years and assumed it'd be difficult, and I only tried Firefox while also using Chrome (as a result, I always wanted it to BE Chrome). Turns out I could migrate all my bookmarks, search history, and extensions over to Firefox with literally a single click, and it sorts itself out. Theres still a couple things I dislike like the right click menu, but most of the differences I got used to pretty quickly.

[@estusflask982]

Using Firefox since they started the KZbin ads stuff.

[@arnabbiswasalsodeep]

same. really missed tab groups but now its partially implemented atleast

[@robonator2945]

what? Plenty of chromium derivatives like Brave still have complete support for blockers and such.

[@_Lumiere_]

​@arnabbiswasalsodeep I use panorama tabs and sidebery, pretty much all you could ever need for tabs.

[@lussor1]

Ublocks fix it too

[@anfrex3342]

@@arnabbiswasalsodeep This has been in place for years, it's just called "Firefox Multi-Account Containers". It is an addon developed by firefox that you have to download.

[@m4ngelus]

That's the reason. I was experiencing the drag and drop problem but I didn't know why. Thanks.

[@k1vd038]

you can edit the user.js file to easily customize firefox to your liking, and also there are UI themes that change the look completely of Firefox, my whole browser UI fits in chrome's title bar.

[@TonyOFN]

I switched to Firefox a week ago and love it, especially the ARCWTF add-on.

[@DavidJonSpem]

Autoscrolling with middle click is so nice. I hope chromium apps will ad it on Linux.

[@Cyco_Nix]

For Chromium browsers add --enable-blink-features=MiddleClickAutoscroll in the menu entry for opening the browser.

[@DavidJonSpem]

@@Cyco_Nix Thanks for sharing this. We need it cause it's so usefull

[@nlahmi]

For me the only barrier is the lack of tab groups

[@PenguinByte]

I've used Firefox for over 5 years and have also tried basically almost every other browser, Firefox is hands down the best.

[@sabertheglaceon256]

I have used Firefox back when I get my first laptop and No plans to stop

[@SurelyLegal]

Welcome to the superior browser

[@FenrirTheGray]

Nope. Mozilla wants to suppress voices. It is the inferior browser.

[@SnowDaemon]

@@FenrirTheGray oh no, not one of them. lol

[@FenrirTheGray]

@@SnowDaemon Parrot in the nick. Fitting.

[@rishirajsaikia1323]

Firefox is right to stop misinformation and hate speech. Plus 1 point for them.

[@FenrirTheGray]

@@rishirajsaikia1323 Only a braindead person would comment that. One not able to realize that any form of critic can be considered hate speech depending on if that would be beneficial to the other entity. And that is easy to manipulate. So it's either free speech or no speech. Nothing in between is viable.

[@affyIndia]

Recently, I switched to Firefox, and the feature I liked the most is containers.

[@nhatminhnguyen2003]

I just switch from chrome to firefox and is kinda good

[@fiftytwentythree]

One feature in Firefox that I can't live without is the ability to follow tabs when you open them. In Chrome, you can do with the aid of an extension. But it's native to Firefox. This feature is good when you want to follow your train of thought. Even when you find something that takes you away from your current task.

[@rwashi]

Awesome, I use Firefox, better privacy.

[@callisoncaffrey]

The new update enables advertising data collection stuff. Always check your settings after updates!

[@aymenchraf]

We often hear, "Firefox gives you more privacy while sacrificing a little performance." This was true a few years ago, but now Firefox offers the same performance and speed as Chromium browsers.

[@GabrielSykes]

People will argue "oh but there's still a difference in benchmarks". Yeah, there is, a tiny difference that amounts to nothing percievable in actual normal use.

[@comrade_rahul_1]

@@GabrielSykes Web Development performance (Speedometer benchmark) is better on Firefox. If benchmarks are one's thing, Firefox is still better.

[@akhil442]

Yes, I do not notice any difference at all while daily browsing in any of the browsers, all the main browsers provide almost the same performace.

[@lussor1]

No. Pages take more time to load

[@AnEagle]

​@@lussor1I can't think of any situation in my life where my internet connection hasn't been the limiting factor in the loading of a page

[@chris_1988]

FF was my first browser and I'm planning on going back to it soon.

[@jesse7631]

Chromium 126 just updated on my Linux distro, and man it is really messing up. Tons of freezes on pages and all kinds of 'Oh Snap!' error messages. I am back on Firefox.

[@MichaelNROH]

I was also getting them more frequently. Interesting

[@hero_007]

Faced same issue. crashes unexpectedly. Trying firefox since few days, going good.

[@iamagi]

Long time Netscape user, I switched to Firefox and have not looked back. Tree style tab is the killer extension

[@hadeseye2297]

You switched to a browser that with latest release send your data to advertising companies. How convenient. FF 128 comes with privacy-preserving ad measurement enabled by default. Choose Floorp, Libre Wolf or Pale Moon instead.

[@the_alquemist101]

Thank you for your insight Michael.

[@leatherDarkhorse]

Idk why ppl dont use firefox at first place.

[@MichaelNROH]

Convinience. Most just download Chrome because they already use Chrome

[@RainLight1991]

@leatherDarkhorse "I don't know why people don't use Firefox in the first place." Come on grammar isn't that hard.

[@patriotlightning7791]

You just got yourself a new subscriber brother :D

[@asicdathens]

KZbin , Google , Alphabet whatever they actively sabotage FF. Videos are intentionally slow and there are issues with comments and some other XHR / AJAX requests are intentionally not finished by UT servers. Chromium engine based browsers have preferential treatment

[@NexotheHedgehog]

One big thing you missed is user chrome css. It lets you customize the ui. It's very powerful since it uses normal css.

[@JackieJKENVtuber]

I use Firefox for everything but sometimes I open up Brave for Tor browsing with all the convenience that the Brave browser has over the Tor browser

[@paultidwell8799]

Welcome home!

[@majoramarix]

You literally didn't scratch the surface, you didn't talk about the BEST by far grouping system and the BEST bookmark system, I was using brave before and after I went with Waterfox, and now I'm with Firefox, I hope someday someone make Earthfox ;)

[@ThePr0_0149]

@@majoramarix nah AirFox gonna hit differently

[@MichaelNROH]

I don't use grouping. Not really a lot of tabs open on my system

[@majoramarix]

@@MichaelNROH Yeah, I felt you love simplicity more, the container tabs and bookmarks would add to your workflow tho

[@Winnetou17]

What do you mean about the bookmarks ? Am I missing something ? I do use bookmarks, both in the menu and in the toolbar and it's nice and good, but I can't see what makes it BEST. And it drives me insane that you cannot edit or tell it to refresh the icon of the bookmark, it just gets it automatically ... but sometimes doesn't. And some tools that run on localhost don't have a favicon so the ability to add one for the bookmark would also be nice. That's so missing in Firefox. Hopefully one day they'll add that.

[@majoramarix]

@@Winnetou17 I'm not talking about the menu or toolbar bookmarks because that is not really different from chrome, but I'm talking about how you can make shortcuts to any website and how you can search any website it's amazing; I have shortcuts to search KZbin to open my mail etc. it's cool! :D

[@Mik3l24]

I love the "Simple Tab Groups" extension. I've switched from Vivaldi to Firefox just cause, but now I won't switch back because I just prefer STG's implementation of tab grouping over what every other browser does. Also, fun fact, you can move extension buttons anywhere on the toolbar. I placed STG on the far left for example, for convenient access.

[@Lila_UrarakaYT]

I am a Vivaldi user, it has a built in ad blocker, custom CSS support like Firefox, more customization than Firefox, tiling windows (i can’t live without it), and it is just straight up better than Firefox, IMO, and I used to be a multi year Firefox fan, going all the way back to its original Quantum update. Now, wasn’t exclusively Firefox, did use Brave on the side as well for some niche reasons, but now, Vivaldi does everything that I need, and more

[@electrology]

@ashleyrose. It's interesting to hear this view. Would you recommend Vivaldi over Fire Fox as well as Brave? Can you please let me know what are the top 5 reasons that you decided to use Vivaldi as your primary browser?

[@Lila_UrarakaYT]

@@electrology I use Vivaldi for its massive feature set, including page tiling up to four pages, tab stacking (both of which Vivaldi had first), infinite customization, not only with the settings, but it also has CSS support, I love its side panel, because it’s not too big, and can hold web pages, so you can have up to 5 web pages shown at once in one window, built in tracker and ad blocker, with support for custom filter lists. It also has an email client, calendar, and RCS feed built in. This is just barely scratching the surface of what Vivaldi can do, and they are always adding more features, too

[@CanuckGod]

@@Lila_UrarakaYT I still prefer Firefox as my daily driver, but I love many of the features that Vivaldi has, and it's my secondary browser for a number of sites that don't work completely perfectly on Firefox. So yes, I highly recommend Vivaldi for anyone who hasn't tried it out.

[@ml_serenity]

Switched from Firefox to Edge a few years ago. Never looked back.

[@aebisdecunter]

Now I wish firefox had real, working keyboard and UI customisation like vivaldi does. Either when vivaldi runs in a wayland session or when firefox has at least these 2 features of vivaldi, I'm going to bother choosing. Currently both have drawbacks, but vivaldi has much fewer for now.

[@Ipeacocks]

I've started to use Firefox again also because of a way better Wayland support (including touchpad gestures)! Chrome still doesn't allow scale UI elements in Wayland session however in X11 it can.

[@godtable]

I trying to implement Firefox in a school I was administrator in. What a headache, the update process needs the browser to close in order for the update to start and you can't use it while it updates. A nightmare! As it always is trying to update while we have work to do, as it only checks for updates while you open it.

[@Perisemiotics]

you can set it to just "pop up" a reminder in the corner, which you can easily click out of - that happens only once per session, too. Updating takes but a few seconds as well.

[@xgui4-studios]

update are really fast thought ? and they dont close automatically ....at least in my windows laptop

[@ark_knight]

Even chromium browser need to close to update. What are you talking about?

[@godtable]

@@ark_knight Chome updates while you are using the old version. On Windows It force closes the browser and opens the update launcher.

[@ark_knight]

@@godtable I dont know what world of browsers you are using over there, but on Windows, I have literally had no update issue on any of the major browsers in the past 5 years. Not chrome, not firefox, not edge. Nah. Firefox downloads updates (which is like 60mb at max) and shows a popup asking to restart or dismiss so you can press dismiss and go on with your life until you close the browser at some point and it will update on next session. Chrome browsers also do the same, except they dont ask about restarting browser because they just wait until next time you actually start the browser. If your downloads are slow, well then god help you.

[@akari9900]

I switched to a lesser known fork called Floorp a while back, primarily for the native vertical tabs support and easier profile switching (Arguably Firefox's most powerful feature which just doesn't get talked about because of the non-existant GUI for it) Incidentally, it also readded PWA support which runs far better than any extension can perform :p

[@twistedkiller28]

To bad floorp doesn't have android support.

[@samuelsamayoa2011]

i m really love firefox!!

[@anthonyyu2722]

Been an OG Firefox user back when Opera charged to use their browser and IE was really crappy. Good thing there were alternatives back then and IE was no longer the monopoly.

[@balsalmalberto8086]

It gotten so bad, The FBI had warnings to use a different browser because IE was so insecure. This was at the time when IE was still dominate and most sites were designed with propiretary crap from IE.

[@godofwar8262]

Because i hate chrome

[@Vitis-n2v]

Also did you know that you can do multiple selections at once? You can for example select a paragraph scroll to another hold down control and select a different one while the previous one is also selected. So you can copy and paste multiple parts of a text with a single copy and pasting.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Why is it so damn hard to make a good web browser with PWA support not based on Chromium!? Edit: It seems Firefox is looking to add back PWA support! They're (as of July 2024) looking to see how it could be added back and are actually taking user suggestions! This is huge, because that was what was keeping me on Chromium for a LONG time! Currently, the only Firefox fork that has this feature is the source available (similar to Vivaldi) Floorp. If this gets put back into Firefox proper, I would FINALLY be able to switch to Firefox again!

[@alals6794]

What does PWA support do for you? just curiious

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@alals6794 It allows me to avoid Electron for apps such as Spotify or Discord.

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@alals6794 it let's me run web apps and keep my workflow. Firefox still is behind in that regard.

[@Redyf]

I've been using firefox for so long, over 12 years already. It's so good I've never looked back. The only thing I would ask for is tab tiling like vivaldi has...

[@shellyi]

Why dont you try librewolf?

[@Purjo92]

Too much hassle to use.

[@tschorsch]

@@shellyi Because it doesn't do the actual development of the only alternative browser engine.

[@pantarei.]

Exactly. IMO there is no point to use Firefox. Librewolf, even if you switch off the strict protection, is still much better and privacy focused than Firefox. Anyway, Brave is imo the best browser for KZbin at least.

[@pantarei.]

@@Purjo92 hassle? What do you mean exactly?

[@cromfrein]

​@@pantarei. Back when i used librewolf it deleted/made unavailable data at what felt like random. Yes it works great most of the time, but for general use plain firefox is extremely solid.

[@enkephalin07]

I use Chrome for work and school, Firefox for entertainment and news, and Edge for a default browser with everything disabled, so anything that wants to launch to a webpage automatically and non-transparently can have a browser without any support or history.

[@MichaelNROH]

That's quite an interesting setup. Why did you choose Edge in particular?

[@enkephalin07]

@@MichaelNROH I didn't want it for anything else, so it was the best choice.

[@xgui4-studios]

@@enkephalin07 so you are in windows ?

[@enkephalin07]

@@xgui4-studios You had to ask?

[@qweriop]

Whenever I have a website that says that it "Doesn't support firefox", I use an extension to change my user agent. I've never had any issues afterwards.

[@Nick-bn6ch]

Didn't know about the toolbar customization thanks for that

[@comrade_rahul_1]

I agree with PWAs. I wanted them too, but I'm able to get things done without it as well. I can assure something. Chrome works better not because Chrome is better but it is being optimized better since it has higher market share. But if websites are optimised for both the browsers, I can assure you firefox works way better (especially considering privacy as well).

[@cameronbosch1213]

PWAs are what's keeping me on Vivaldi. Until they return, I'm not switching back to Firefox Edit: They _may_ be looking at adding it back. Of course, after Safari on macOS seems to be adding it. Still, it's only a month old (ongoing) discussion! If it works and PWA support is added back, I'll definitely give Firefox a shot again!

[@comrade_rahul_1]

@@cameronbosch1213 I still don't understand why Firefox thought of removing that feature which is useful. But yeah, I think they are going to add it back.

[@mikebean.]

we are finally getting reconigized.

[@toxiccan175]

Librewolf

[@RoyaltyInTraining.]

Firefox needs to get public funding. It's ridiculous how governments don't see the importance of having a fully independent browser to compete with Chrome.

[@Totallynotmwa]

Idk why firefox is slower then most chromium browsers

[@michadybczak4862]

I'm not sure if that is true nowadays. There could be some differences and FF may be a tiny bit slower, but it's not noticeable in a daily usage, as far I can tell.

[@Totallynotmwa]

@michadybczak4862 comparing a chromium browser on windows firefox feels laggier smth like that

[@DCM777.]

Yeah it's slower.

[@ChryptoCrystal]

@@michadybczak4862 Running a browser benchmark on both Firefox and Brave (Chromium based) DOES reveal that Firefox really is slower

[@Totallynotmwa]

@@DCM777. I did a speed test and got a very slow speed but it still really good

[@yurimbarbosa0]

As a loyal Firefox user since 2004. I'm so happy to see new users. Gettings from Brazil.

[@dumbfloppa]

Firefox makes my computer perform like a pentium 166.

[@fiverZ]

2016 wants its misinformation back

[@roachey]

I downloaded firefox around 2007 when I was in middle school just because I liked the fox icon/logo. It's been my main browser since.

[@PaulMetalhero]

Vivaldi latest update lets you know exactly how much ram is being used for every single tab. I love it

[@bvd_vlvd]

Instagram keeps growing because their web version is a memory leaking hot garbage and it's so great to be able to see when it reaches 1GB of memory so I can hibernate it. Dope update, I especially love the new mail UI

[@BlogingLP]

We're talking browsers here, not Internet suites :D

[@lussor1]

Dude that thing has been in chromium for more than a year

[@PaulMetalhero]

@@lussor1 Oh I didn't know. Well, that's great feature

[@PaulMetalhero]

@@BlogingLP Just disable the mail and calendar, that's it

[@TrustJesusToday]

Zen has turned out to be a really good experience. I hope they do an Android version soon.

[@rch5395]

I wish that the konqueror browser was still a thing.

[@rabbits2345]

A little known fact that I absolutely love is that WebKit (Safari's engine) and Blink (Chrome's engine) began as forks of KHTML, which was developed by the KDE project in the 1990s for Konqueror. So even though Linux barely hits 4% of the desktop market share, the vast majority of people are using something born from the KDE project.

[@kensmith5694]

Yes, I used it for a while and it was great. It was fast.

[@Derek-tk4wf]

Floorp is what modern Firefox should be in 2024. Tried it on a whim a couple months ago, along with other browsers. And find myself not only still using it, but I dare say its my favorite one of all. Ram usage can get a little high if you have a ton of tabs open, compared to Brave, but enable the sleeping tabs option will mostly alleviate that. Worst part of it is the name.

[@lussor1]

Forks>Firefox default that comes with heavy telemtry, and now in v128 it will get worse. Tabs looks very ugly and a good ammount of people wont switch because of this. Thank you Floorp fork for exist!

[@degususaskulusku]

I love the mouseover tab reveal in fullscreen mode in Firefox

[@AyaWetts]

The people in charge of Mozilla are idiots... but Firefox isn't that bad

[@kensmith5694]

I agree about Mozilla but I pause to point out that nearly every big outfit is run by idiots.

[@potffin]

"ok then, let's see how YOU will run mozilla."

[@JacksonNick-j6i]

@@potffin With your logic, we should not criticize government for being corrupt, because WE are not the ones running it or we are not qualified to run it so we must as well smile and be an idiot like you. Next time think before talking toddler.

[@Thorned_Rose]

The people in charge of Mozilla *Corporation.

[@AyaWetts]

@@Thorned_Rose Both Corp and Foundation sadly... I don't know enough about all of them, but I know about enough of them, they all have to have similar mindsets.

[@RaveYoda]

I like FireFox devtools and it's a big reason why I ue it outside of other points made already.

[@skelebro9999]

I have used Firefox for 3-4 years by now, but I have recently switched to Brave as Firefox was getting quite sluggish on my machine. So far, Brave has been running perfectly, but I still have Firefox installed just in-case something breaks.

[@YouTubdotCub]

Mercury is faster and based on Firefox!

[@skelebro9999]

​@@YouTubdotCubI'll check that out. Thanks!

[@TerryDoesTech]

my biggest reason for sticking to Firefox on linux is native hardware acceleration support out of the box. Sure, I can get it working on Chrome/brave/etc, but half of the time it ends up breaking after an update. great video!

[@svan71]

Firefox always feels slow compared to Brave

[@YouTubdotCub]

Try Mercury, based on Firefox but blinding fast.

[@marcely1199]

I always cringe when I see somebody using Brave

[@svan71]

@@marcely1199 what's even more cringe is the amount of market share Firefox has lost over the past decade.

[@svan71]

@@YouTubdotCub agreed, just wish more people maintained the project.

[@YouTubdotCub]

@@svan71 the guy who makes it also makes Thorium, and he does a pretty great job maintaining both but yeah he seems like he would benefit from some help

[@EsotericPenguin]

On Mac/iOS I always main Safari, but on Windows, Linux or Android I always use Firefox. Anything other than Google does the job.

[@xgui4-studios]

macos = crapple !

[@YodaComedy]

0:01 i know you say open source but it sounds like adobe idk why

[@gmt1]

Firefox also has better theming. You can change the entire layout and appearance via CSS.

[@ego-lay_atman-bay]

I personally use brave, because it has a built in adblocker, and it's able to sync across all my devices, windows pc, android phone, and ipad. If there was a firefox fork that has better privacy than base firefox, was on all my devices, and has sync, then I might switch.

[@tuhoang6609]

Been rocking for for more than 10 years :)))

[@Kananaboo]

No thx. Firefox and Mozilla is an ad company now. It’s a trap!

[@swamprat22]

theyre not an ad company. just turn it off. they will barely make money, if any at all, from that feature

[@cowantom]

I shifted to Firefox recently - from Edge - but the thing I missed most was the vertical tabs. I know its scheduled to arrive but who knows when. However, I then tried Floorp and it has the vertical tabs, as well as even more configuration options than Firefox. I love it and it's now my default on all of my devices