a nice product from Ramanujan -- featuring 3 important constants!

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Michael Penn

Michael Penn

Күн бұрын

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@endersteph
@endersteph Жыл бұрын
At 15:14 he forgot to change the inside of the integral to arctan z / z dz, but it doesn't change the result because the integral goes to 0 in the limit because of the bounds
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 Жыл бұрын
arctan(z)/z dz. Don't forget the grouping symbols.
@wolfmanjacksaid
@wolfmanjacksaid Жыл бұрын
Did he really do it by mistake? He wrote it again at 17:47
@martindedek2885
@martindedek2885 Жыл бұрын
I think he didn't want to substitute it to z, just the other two integrals. So I think that the mistake was that he changed the higher bound to tan(pi/4...), I think it should've been only pi/4... But still for X=1 it's 0 so the integral is irrelevant
@MichaelRothwell1
@MichaelRothwell1 Жыл бұрын
Piece of cake. All he did was add a variable x, take logs (to convert infinite product to infinite sum), differentiate, simplify, integrate again, use a bunch of substitutions and a series representation of sec, and a (familiar) integral representation of Catalan's constant. ;)
@idjles
@idjles Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and Ramanujan did that while you were making your coffee for breakfast.
@mohammedsenhaji
@mohammedsenhaji Жыл бұрын
And don't forget that you have to check the conditions for every use of limit, derivation, integration rules for series and integrals involved. If written rigourously it is at least 6 pages.
@giannipiccioni8411
@giannipiccioni8411 Жыл бұрын
​@@mohammedsenhaji it would be only one line with a long enough page
@乔峯
@乔峯 Жыл бұрын
New theory or formula may seems easy becos the inventor or discoverer tried many ways to simplify it as direct n simple as possible before presented it to you. But before that, nobody had the correct and simplest answer. They have tried many old, new, harder ways in order to find the correct one that is error proof. And this isn't really that easy or obvious, otherwise it would have been discovered way before he/she did, it is the unique creativity and ingenuity that lead each scientist made the contribution of their own. The sea of knowledge is so vast, no single person is smart or creative enough to discover n understand everything in the universe. We should respect and give the credit to all the scientist for all the discovery n invention they made, even if it is only 1 small equation, cos every equation count.
@humbledb4jesus
@humbledb4jesus Жыл бұрын
number theory is like getting a nasty sliver...you hate it, but you can't stop looking at it, picking at it, and finally getting knife to try and dig it out...
@Noam_.Menashe
@Noam_.Menashe Жыл бұрын
Where do you see number theory here?
@polyhistorphilomath
@polyhistorphilomath Жыл бұрын
@@Noam_.Menashe There's the product over factors of the form (1/(1-1/p))^c_k . That's probably a good indication number theory is involved.
@daburak2559
@daburak2559 Жыл бұрын
You watched the video and you thought of number theory?? How
@macicoinc9363
@macicoinc9363 Жыл бұрын
@@daburak2559euler’s prime product isn’t number theory? What is number theory to you if that isn’t apart of it?
@robertveith6383
@robertveith6383 Жыл бұрын
​* a part "Apart" means "separated by a distance."
@slavinojunepri7648
@slavinojunepri7648 Жыл бұрын
What an awesome proof! Amazing to say the least.
@ഡിങ്കനേഷ്
@ഡിങ്കനേഷ് Жыл бұрын
That's awesome - from "the man who knew infinity "
@angeloluisrocattojunior3425
@angeloluisrocattojunior3425 11 ай бұрын
I'm wondering what else Ramanujan would produce and discover if he had lived more than 32 years.
@張謙-n3l
@張謙-n3l 4 ай бұрын
He's probably just a messenger
@ccg8803
@ccg8803 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing, thank you! I cannot understand the views/quality ratio!
@franksaved3893
@franksaved3893 Жыл бұрын
Why is all the stuff about Ramanujan always fckin' crazy? 😅
@sanjogar
@sanjogar Жыл бұрын
Ramanujan was an alien 😂👽
@vasilisr7
@vasilisr7 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael
@curtiswfranks
@curtiswfranks Жыл бұрын
This one was pretty tricky.
@darkseid856
@darkseid856 Жыл бұрын
He predicted 4G technology . Truly ahead of his time .
@sahilsingh6048
@sahilsingh6048 Жыл бұрын
Tumnay profiel picture change karli kya
@om5621
@om5621 Жыл бұрын
...what? he had nothing to do with even the internet whatsoever, is this some kind of joke
@Cccctyt
@Cccctyt Жыл бұрын
​@@om5621also black holes
@aug3842
@aug3842 Жыл бұрын
@@om5621in the exponential there is the term 4G/π, and if u ignore the π in the denominator and treat G as just a letter rather than Catalans constant then it reads ‘4G’, which Ramanujan found well before the internet was created
@cristiandalessandro599
@cristiandalessandro599 7 ай бұрын
​@@om5621 yes, that's pretty much the best, most unpredictable joke. Quite hard to not understand it
@gp-ht7ug
@gp-ht7ug Жыл бұрын
I miss the initial music of the videos. Very interesting video!
@한매쓰
@한매쓰 Жыл бұрын
It was a very fascinating content
@minwithoutintroduction
@minwithoutintroduction Жыл бұрын
رحلة شاقة لكنها ممتعة
@missoss
@missoss Жыл бұрын
I love these random proof videos.
@d.h.y
@d.h.y 10 ай бұрын
Imagine you are a professor and all of a sudden a student brings up this identity in one random morning, while he brings up some incomprehensible pi formula (1/π =...) in the other day 😱😱
@natepolidoro4565
@natepolidoro4565 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't adding that n=0 term make the whole thing equal to zero as x->1?
@danmcalister2215
@danmcalister2215 Жыл бұрын
And then taking the log -> infinity?
@mohammedsenhaji
@mohammedsenhaji Жыл бұрын
Yeah but he doesn't take the limit until substracting the term again.
@curtiswfranks
@curtiswfranks Жыл бұрын
I think that this is the trickiest part.
@idjles
@idjles Жыл бұрын
I am sure the Ramanujan saw this identity immediately- he didn’t need 20 minutes of derivation to prove this.
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 Жыл бұрын
Ok well since you're "sure" I guess we know it for a fact
Жыл бұрын
this is a very common misbelief
@damascus21
@damascus21 Жыл бұрын
Ramanujan was a genius; he wasn't magic.
@idjles
@idjles Жыл бұрын
@@damascus21 he is so far beyond us, it may as well be magic.
@yuseifudo6075
@yuseifudo6075 9 ай бұрын
​Nah @@idjles
@reeeeeplease1178
@reeeeeplease1178 Жыл бұрын
6:51 why don't we just view it (as he pointed out) as -pi/2 x sec(pi/2 x)? We should be able to integrate usec(u) with IBP, no?
@adogonasidecar1262
@adogonasidecar1262 Жыл бұрын
What happened at 14:21 when 4/Pi became Pi/4?
@adogonasidecar1262
@adogonasidecar1262 Жыл бұрын
Oh he corrected it at 15:00
@Maths_3.1415
@Maths_3.1415 Жыл бұрын
Interesting...
@Velociraptor103
@Velociraptor103 Жыл бұрын
Quite cool
@euler73
@euler73 Жыл бұрын
Is "Oh look, we've got...." then new "we can play the same game again..." ? ;-)
@emanuellandeholm5657
@emanuellandeholm5657 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about you guys, but my little ape brain was screaming difference of squares factorization as soon as I saw factors of the form [ 1 - ( 1 / (2n + 1) )^2 ] to the f(n). Is that something to explore?
@Hexer1985
@Hexer1985 Жыл бұрын
Okay, great. So, the three important constants are e, G and \pi.
@jawadibrahim2367
@jawadibrahim2367 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering for a solid minute why Newton's gravitational constant popped up in a mathematical result, only for it to be a different G in this case. I'm a little shook right now.
@evid-rz3nu
@evid-rz3nu Жыл бұрын
nice video sir ji
@taranmellacheruvu2504
@taranmellacheruvu2504 Жыл бұрын
How can you justify that the limit means an equality? Can’t the point at x=1 be different from the limit as x goes to 1?
@mohammedsenhaji
@mohammedsenhaji Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the left side ?
@taranmellacheruvu2504
@taranmellacheruvu2504 4 ай бұрын
@@mohammedsenhaji Yes. My bad
@insaanh00n
@insaanh00n 19 күн бұрын
Clearly Ramanujan was crazy or inspired. Who else would come up with that formula?
@evid-rz3nu
@evid-rz3nu Жыл бұрын
love from india
@suzune8952
@suzune8952 Жыл бұрын
Its pretty normal deriving this stuff , it isnt an alien thing...
@erfanmohagheghian707
@erfanmohagheghian707 Жыл бұрын
I did the derivation of 1/cos(pi*x/2) on your behalf :) Thank you sir kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHKTgmdjf8yXhLc
@Packerfan130
@Packerfan130 Жыл бұрын
so many cheats, why bother doing the video at that point then?
@EphemeralEphah
@EphemeralEphah Жыл бұрын
Would you want the video to be well over an hour long? I assume proving the integral representation of G is equal to the series definition would take quite a while and could be it's own video, and I imagine deriving the series representation of sec((pi/2)x) is not so simple either.
@zlodevil426
@zlodevil426 Жыл бұрын
A lot of his videos reference other videos, most reference ones in the past, and this one just references videos in the future. What’s the significant difference?
@TheEternalVortex42
@TheEternalVortex42 Жыл бұрын
All math is built on earlier work. It's fairly arbitrary which results we would want proven and which are considered known.
@cameronbigley7483
@cameronbigley7483 Жыл бұрын
​@@zlodevil426I don't mind referencing other videos, but I'd ptefer if an important step was already uploaded prior.
@samuelgoodman6067
@samuelgoodman6067 Жыл бұрын
@@EphemeralEphah It's actually one line. Use the Taylor series for arctan.
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