Michel strikes back | Monopoly Plus [ROUND 13-3]

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@ivanadelacruz2013
@ivanadelacruz2013 2 жыл бұрын
The comedic timing of michel putting houses on boardwalk, dan calling it park place and then correcting himself that its boardwalk, and then arin getting the “advance to boardwalk” card. Love this show. This is art.
@draxarchivingservice
@draxarchivingservice 2 жыл бұрын
also the fact that arin literally just gave boardwalk to michel
@nathanrodriguez914nr
@nathanrodriguez914nr 2 жыл бұрын
@@draxarchivingservice especially considering he didn't have to at all. He just handed it away for zero reason.
@nikabigvava6800
@nikabigvava6800 2 жыл бұрын
Timestap?
@emiranda2491
@emiranda2491 2 жыл бұрын
Welp, he reap what he sow.
@L33PL4Y
@L33PL4Y 2 жыл бұрын
It's not funny when you know the game is rigged for hard AIs. It wasn't happenstance or luck, the game ensured it.
@SandF3DPrinting
@SandF3DPrinting 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: *pays Michel $18 while Michel is in jail* Very next turn... Arin: *goes to jail* "can you collect money while in jail, I can't remember..."
@crocadillius6418
@crocadillius6418 2 жыл бұрын
@Nifa tama 6 why do you do the things that you do
@ZekeStaright
@ZekeStaright 2 жыл бұрын
And of course he just jumps right out of jail...
@flashmozzg
@flashmozzg 2 жыл бұрын
They've definitely played a game where they couldn't collect money while in jail.
@SandF3DPrinting
@SandF3DPrinting 2 жыл бұрын
@@flashmozzg yes that's one of the other house rules
@BLUERAYGUNER
@BLUERAYGUNER 2 жыл бұрын
that is one of those moments where you have to remember Arin just... he isnt exactly ever paying attention to whats happening because he is, and he says so often, an idiot.
@bunkle96
@bunkle96 2 жыл бұрын
Someone please tell Arin that hard AI in monopoly is not worth it because the only difference in their play is getting better dice rolls
@thelastwindwaker7948
@thelastwindwaker7948 2 жыл бұрын
Dan has told him to stop setting the AI on these games to hard for years. But I guess this is why this is a comedy show and not a gameplay show.
@shamefullife2459
@shamefullife2459 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. But don't set it to easy. They will make bad deals instead
@Harrison_Burgeron
@Harrison_Burgeron 2 жыл бұрын
literally the only thing that AI should have nothing to do with and it's the only difference smh
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 2 жыл бұрын
the old redwood monopoly game had real ai personalities with names. I miss the time when developers actually gave a shit.
@timothy6966
@timothy6966 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know that… that’s just unfair. Then again, it makes sense, since they still make the same stupid choices.
@jcace13
@jcace13 2 жыл бұрын
I think Arin forgets that the game is completely rigged on Hard, they just don't land on your properties.
@_NoDrinkTheBleach
@_NoDrinkTheBleach 2 жыл бұрын
He does it to himself, because it's entertaining on Mario Party. But on Monopoly, it's just broken. I can imagine how much he'd freak out if he substituted Alexandra Botez in for Dan while playing Chess.
@roberthiggins4186
@roberthiggins4186 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even the Spiffing Brit points out to how broken the AI is when it comes to rolls. They are objectively loaded in the computers favor every time. thus how the AI threaded the needle on Arin's props multiple times in the game. that said the AI in this game is hilariously exploitable if you know the little trick and want to waste the time doing it.
@krsynx
@krsynx 2 жыл бұрын
@@roberthiggins4186 How?
@Thepsicho22
@Thepsicho22 2 жыл бұрын
​@@krsynx I think it was a loop of trading with the AI, something like: Get a property, mortgage it. Trade it to the AI for the base value. AI will likely pay to remove the mortgage. Trade for the unmortgaged property again paying the base price. Mortgage it. Rinse and repeat for a benefit for you and a net loss for the AI.
@resileaf9501
@resileaf9501 2 жыл бұрын
I think Arin doesn't know that the AI is rigged to get better rolls. I imagine he only thinks that they're more intelligent about trades and strategic house building rather than straight up rolling better and avoiding pitfalls. Michel getting the street repairs card was basically the only 'mistake' the AI was allowed to have at this difficulty level.
@burzumelden5637
@burzumelden5637 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: Let's put Michel on hard Dan: Do we need to put them on hard Arin? *Michel's boss healthbar appears*
@creepymanchildren
@creepymanchildren 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day they'll learn that one of the very few things that changes when you up the difficulty is the probability of fortunate rolls increases, making it appear that they are just super lucky.
@co2_os
@co2_os 2 жыл бұрын
Hard ai in this game is so bad in this game, they'd sell you a monopoly if the price is right. But in this instance where they don't need a monopoly to build houses it doesn't matter I guess.
@jonathanpilcher337
@jonathanpilcher337 2 жыл бұрын
@@co2_os the actual ai isn't all too much different from difficulty to difficulty, it's legit almost entirely just how lucky they are, so basically choosing the difficulty of them is just deciding to what extent the game cheats in their favor
@sadface6635
@sadface6635 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: *can buy boardwalk for way underprice but doesn’t want it* Chance: “reap what you sow”
@MrZega000
@MrZega000 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't want this property! >:|"
@gedward1208
@gedward1208 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrZega000 AND IF HE MORTGAGED IT HE WOULDVE HAD MORE MONEY THAN IF HE DIDNT BUY AT ALL
@sadface6635
@sadface6635 2 жыл бұрын
@@gedward1208 ikr?!
@LGSweets
@LGSweets 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta love it But also this was one of the best games of Monopoly yet Shoutouts Community Chest It's the new lose a turn
@SpaceHuggle
@SpaceHuggle 2 жыл бұрын
Boardwalk literally said "I'ma end this man's whole career."
@GameBoy_6135
@GameBoy_6135 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: Doesn't buy Boardwalk Dan: Says nothing about grave mistake Game: - immediately - I will make you pay for your sin!!!
@jamesphillips4009
@jamesphillips4009 2 жыл бұрын
Could have just bought it and mortaged for a clean 50 gain.
@ivankervis4374
@ivankervis4374 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesphillips4009 yeah exactly, so sad
@vigorouslethargy
@vigorouslethargy 2 жыл бұрын
Petition to get Allie and Borf/Ross/Tucker/etc. on Monopoly with them so they don't have to deal with weighted AI rolls.
@andrewspohrer7183
@andrewspohrer7183 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, for real, I'm not sure those rolls were statistically possible. Any computer game with dice or a spinner or anything like that seems like hard mode is just cheater rolls/spins
@Archgeek0
@Archgeek0 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewspohrer7183 Not all of 'em, just very poorly made ones like Ubisoft's product here. Much older PC Monopoly games actually had the difficulties use differing strategies, or would have a set of AI "personalities" you could select that all had unique strategies that were kinda tiered by how hard they were to play against. The dice were usually fair unless there was an "insane" or sometimes literally "unfair" difficulty, which would often directly hint the dice were being loaded against you.
@billybrinkley4575
@billybrinkley4575 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone, having people that can talk back and give you more content would make these so much better.
@JunoAlusLyn
@JunoAlusLyn 2 жыл бұрын
how do i like a comment twice? this needs to be a thing. i hate when they play against unfair ai
@leeroyjenkins3391
@leeroyjenkins3391 2 жыл бұрын
Amen. More creators, more content. Simple.
@rmdcade1717
@rmdcade1717 2 жыл бұрын
We all need a friend like Dan who won't let us quit when we're down, then laughs as we spiral into the drain
@HectaSpyrit
@HectaSpyrit 2 жыл бұрын
Iwould like your comment, escept it has 69 likes already and I don't want to ruin it for you.
@timothy6966
@timothy6966 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@EndFright
@EndFright 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to find out the hard way, that I don't make money in jail" -Arin less than two minutes after being forced to pay his opponent, who was in jail at the time, rent.
@aslandus
@aslandus 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: "I don't want the boardwalk" AI: *Gains $50 by buying the boardwalk for less than its mortgage price*
@worthasandwich
@worthasandwich 2 жыл бұрын
I know, he made so many bad decisions.
@Dyundu
@Dyundu 2 жыл бұрын
He was long since tilted by that point; give him a break.
@Girigo94
@Girigo94 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dyundu Arin starts games tilted haha
@sienile
@sienile 2 жыл бұрын
By far the dumbest move in the game.
@Cheese_Meister
@Cheese_Meister 2 жыл бұрын
I hope SOMEONE at gg headquarters noticed this. But what’s the whole point of it all anyways…
@azurebalmung4520
@azurebalmung4520 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: *Spends every cent on new houses when he passes Go* Also Arin: *Shocked when he can't afford the $20 rent*
@iwannahavearockstar2994
@iwannahavearockstar2994 2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why Arin has yet to win a single game of Monopoly Plus.
@thomasdegroat6039
@thomasdegroat6039 2 жыл бұрын
Drives me absolutely bonkers. Like I'm not even good at monopoly but you gotta save a few hundred just in case you land on something.
@CharlesBrusch
@CharlesBrusch 2 жыл бұрын
Arin tries to hurry games along to keep them interesting. He probably doesn’t think people will be interested watching him slowly transverse the board a few times to accumulate Go money, which would be a solid, but slow paced goal. Thus, he takes a lot of risks for high payoffs.
@QuesoGr7
@QuesoGr7 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah when it started I was like "Why are you dropping so many houses at the start!? You need money for later!" lol
@DustinHorvath1987
@DustinHorvath1987 2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesBrusch I'm not entirely convinced that Arin isn't just an idiot, lol. That's one of like a dozen terrible things he does while playing. it's possible the *whole* thing is a schtick, but it'd have to be the whole thing, lol.
@melodylemaysellers4087
@melodylemaysellers4087 2 жыл бұрын
The level of anger I have that Arin passed over his utility so many times and never mortgaged it is taking years off my life
@greatgoogily7911
@greatgoogily7911 2 жыл бұрын
And letting the computer have boardwalk. Could've mortgaged and gained fifty bucks.
@sumbody694
@sumbody694 2 жыл бұрын
You do realize that 99% of the people who play monopoly have never read the rules or don't play by them so they probably dont even know you can mortgage shit and a bunch of other things in the game that make it so much faster then the 3-4 hour slog it usually turns into.
@InkGraffiti
@InkGraffiti 2 жыл бұрын
@@sumbody694 this comment is irrelevant to this specific circumstance and the comment you were replying to.. lol this game forces you to play by the rules, and arin is well aware he can mortgage! he just had an oversight during that specific scenario
@sumbody694
@sumbody694 2 жыл бұрын
@@InkGraffiti Congratulations you wrote a bunch of shit I didnt read LOL
@poochy2479
@poochy2479 2 жыл бұрын
@@sumbody694 who are you playing monopoly with that doesn't see the mortgage written on the property cards or like.... know what a mortgage is lmao we aint talkin about casual games with cousin timmy here lol
@TimeAdept
@TimeAdept 2 жыл бұрын
I owned this version of monopoly for the ps5. Me and my brother played vs two hard AI in a game that lasted nearly 6 hours. By the end of it i owned every property in the game and we watched as the AI managed to roll on chance, community chest, free parking and the taxes for nearly two hours. It was obvious the AI was cheating at that point. I owned the entire board and had hotels on as much as i could and houses on everything i couldn't have hotel's on. For TWO HOURS the AI rolled exactly right to avoid EVERY PROPERTY in the game UNTIL it had enough money from Chance/Community Chest/passing GO to pay the rent. Then the cycle would repeat.
@Shoulderpads-mcgee
@Shoulderpads-mcgee 2 жыл бұрын
Well? How did it end?
@micahphilson
@micahphilson 2 жыл бұрын
16:40 Wow, Arin was screaming so loud Dan's mic picked it up in the next room!
@KingOfDoma
@KingOfDoma 2 жыл бұрын
... Arin setting board game AI to Hard is the equivalent of always putting everything on 23.
@mehlessmidori602
@mehlessmidori602 2 жыл бұрын
Less fart noises though.
@Omnomnomfish
@Omnomnomfish 2 жыл бұрын
and the payoff isn't nearly as impressive
@aznperson8
@aznperson8 2 жыл бұрын
@@Omnomnomfish Nor as fun to watch. There, we knew Arin was being silly and it was immensely entertaining. Hard Monopoly AI is just watching the computer near-openly cheat.
@sirparkington8351
@sirparkington8351 2 жыл бұрын
Can't agree. 23 ended up working out in his favor. Hard Monopoly AI hasn't.
@KingOfDoma
@KingOfDoma 2 жыл бұрын
@@sirparkington8351 it worked ONCE. And then he blew all his money afterwards. That is literally how they get you
@Spongeman25
@Spongeman25 2 жыл бұрын
The games difficulty mode refers to how loaded the dice are against you. Nothing more.
@Marcusml333
@Marcusml333 2 жыл бұрын
Are you sure? That would be a weird way to set difficulty. I think setting an AI to hard just makes that AI make better decisions with its money.
@hhopsi
@hhopsi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Marcusml333 yeah that would be good game design! in this game though, the harder the difficulty, the more the AI gets to cheat.
@co2_os
@co2_os 2 жыл бұрын
@@hhopsi if that's true, this must be THE dumbest game design choice I've heard.
@hhopsi
@hhopsi 2 жыл бұрын
@@co2_os yup, I'm sure it's just much easier to program an AI to roll three times and choose the roll where it doesn't land on its opponents property... than to actually program an AI.
@randomloser4674
@randomloser4674 2 жыл бұрын
All the difficulty does is make the ai want more money on trades. Also the hard ai tends to choke housing where easy straight up hotel locks itself.
@Superboologan1
@Superboologan1 2 жыл бұрын
This' probably the most frantic I've seen them play monopoly
@ArchonTimatron
@ArchonTimatron 2 жыл бұрын
You should see them playing on their day off, smoking sick rocks of crack
@creepymanchildren
@creepymanchildren 2 жыл бұрын
Someday they'll learn that one of the few things that changes when you up the difficulty is the increased rate of AI getting favorable rolls, making it *appear* that they are just super lucky.
@matthewelliott7294
@matthewelliott7294 2 жыл бұрын
If this is the most frantic in Monopoly, then what would it be like if they played Monopoly Madness?
@chinbrows6245
@chinbrows6245 2 жыл бұрын
And that's saying something
@cardinalbaseballer5
@cardinalbaseballer5 2 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious and infuriating to watch. Arin makes terrible house-buying decisions, never strategically mortgages properties, auctions properties to the computer for LESS THAN THEIR MORTGAGE VALUE, sells houses instead of mortgaging a worthless utility, and at one point literally PAYS to get out of jail when it’s advantageous to stay there.
@cameronprice4922
@cameronprice4922 2 жыл бұрын
This is why he always loses to everyone. I guess he is a terrible chess player and businessman. Doesn’t mean I hate him, it’s just not his expertise.
@Marzi29
@Marzi29 2 жыл бұрын
well yeah he's the video game boy not the board game boy
@TheBlackShinigami
@TheBlackShinigami 2 жыл бұрын
Well more reason why he isn't a realtor lol
@cardinalbaseballer5
@cardinalbaseballer5 2 жыл бұрын
@@spaceenthusiast4836 I feel you! “There are no decisions to make or strats to use!” as he literally hands the opponent Boardwalk + $50…
@13menrollingdown
@13menrollingdown 2 жыл бұрын
They play more Monopoly than anyone I know, yet somehow can't figure out these basic things 😵‍💫 the hilarity of it is starting to escape me, and the frustration is setting in 😓
@glassycolors
@glassycolors 2 жыл бұрын
Absoloutly pulling my hair out over the fact that Arin never mortaged the utility he had. He literally passed over it like 10 times while frantically selling other shit and it made me go bonkers
@sirenouir4250
@sirenouir4250 2 жыл бұрын
Him letting Michel have dark blue was infuriating.
@ryanwalters6838
@ryanwalters6838 2 жыл бұрын
When he sold a house before the utility 🙃
@CrazeeAdam
@CrazeeAdam 2 жыл бұрын
Even at the end when he could have sold it lol. He sold more light blues
@melodylemaysellers4087
@melodylemaysellers4087 2 жыл бұрын
I got up from bed to aggressively tap my tv where the utility was, he just kept passing it like a fool
@PlagueOfGripes
@PlagueOfGripes 2 жыл бұрын
This game cheats liberally. The game is just looking at the space you have shit on then giving the AI the number or card it needs to avoid it.
@MoonlitLycan
@MoonlitLycan 2 жыл бұрын
It's just like Mario Party. All the higher difficulty means is the AI gets luckier.
@Carbonmancer
@Carbonmancer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheese it by buying the red properties and putting hotel on them.
@animeAJproductions
@animeAJproductions 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the CPU buys Boardwalk then loads up on it right before Arin rolls and LANDS on it is proof-positive that the game cheats!!!
@animeAJproductions
@animeAJproductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoonlitLycan The computer player behaves the way it is programmed to; its not artificial intelligence, its Automated Intelligence.
@aantony2001
@aantony2001 2 жыл бұрын
@@MoonlitLycan I don't think that's how Mario Party works. The hard AI may know stuff it shouldn't (like hidden stars) and be really good at mini-games but I don't think the rolls are fudged.
@desaturatedyou
@desaturatedyou 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, just a lil tip that properties can be mortgaged for half their value so you should always bid all of your money up to that mortgage value, otherwise the CPU just gets free money essentially
@NightHao
@NightHao 2 жыл бұрын
The last 5 turns were just the game giving itself money. What a shitty AI
@morganlaboure3141
@morganlaboure3141 2 жыл бұрын
soon as the ep started, my cat meows. I meow back to her. Arin: "oh don't f*ckin meow you piece of sh*t"
@courtneysmith9807
@courtneysmith9807 2 жыл бұрын
This whole episode is like when the plot of the book youre reading wraps up but there are still 50 pages left
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 2 жыл бұрын
**cough** Return of the King **cough**
@ItsMrBozToYou
@ItsMrBozToYou 2 жыл бұрын
@@RabblesTheBinx *cough* The Hobbit *sniffle*
@aynDRAWS
@aynDRAWS 8 ай бұрын
That's an amazingly accurate description
@JoseLara-dg4zk
@JoseLara-dg4zk 2 жыл бұрын
I might be nearing the point where the next time I see Arin choose "hard" mode for an AI at the beginning of a Monopoly episode, I close the site and go contemplate how I'm living my life.
@140kittykat
@140kittykat 2 жыл бұрын
I like to watch to see how long it takes me to cry over their folly.
@sloanlopez3532
@sloanlopez3532 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: sets the AI to hard and then proceeds to complain about how “lucky” they are with their rolls
@thelastwindwaker7948
@thelastwindwaker7948 2 жыл бұрын
Every time. Mario Party as well. Then Dan calls him out on setting to hard.
@hurtjuice8128
@hurtjuice8128 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelastwindwaker7948 mario party doesn't rig the dice in favor of hard ai though.
@dillonbenson5908
@dillonbenson5908 2 жыл бұрын
I mean to be fair he doesn't know that hard just loads the dice against you instead of, you know, actually making the AI use different strategies instead of just cheating
@ItsMrBozToYou
@ItsMrBozToYou 2 жыл бұрын
@@hurtjuice8128 it only cheats by having TAS-like skill at 80% of minigames.
@emperorxander666
@emperorxander666 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: *put computer on hard* this is fine also Arin: damn it why is it so hard?!
@MrZega000
@MrZega000 2 жыл бұрын
this is why you don't turn down boardwalk for $150
@violetwave25
@violetwave25 2 жыл бұрын
Arin does that EVERYTIME and Dan always calls him out on that
@1Seanmb
@1Seanmb 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrZega000 He seriously could have bought it and then mortgaged it immediately for a profit, something I don't think they think about when auctioning properties.
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson 2 жыл бұрын
I think I broke the record for most times screaming "JUST SELL THE UTILITY!!!" in 30 minutes.
@TooMuchMadness1
@TooMuchMadness1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad someone else noticed this, it was killing me!
@GYOresumen
@GYOresumen 2 жыл бұрын
We all know dice rolls are rigged, but community chest/chance cards too? Like, what are the odds that he gets forced to go to the property where the AI just bought some houses? (And all those times they let the AI skip Arin's section of the board).
@xF3arl
@xF3arl 2 жыл бұрын
How does "Can I collect money while I'm in jail?" come up every single god damn time they play this game?
@tomokolovecraft3792
@tomokolovecraft3792 2 жыл бұрын
Because of that one fucking house rule.
@robertfalk3767
@robertfalk3767 2 жыл бұрын
Because one time they played a house rule where you don't, and now it's literally the only thing about Monopoly they kinda remember.
@heatherkirkland3149
@heatherkirkland3149 2 жыл бұрын
*Pays Michel $18 while Michel is IN JAIL. Next turn: “Can you earn money in jail?” - “I know we figured it out last game, but I can’t remember.” Me: screaming: YOU JUST PAID THEM.
@RabblesTheBinx
@RabblesTheBinx 2 жыл бұрын
Me, screaming: _HE HAS ADHD!_
@LubGlubs2009
@LubGlubs2009 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: I don’t want Boardwalk. Card: Go to Boardwalk. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@MrZega000
@MrZega000 2 жыл бұрын
Mistakes were made
@LubGlubs2009
@LubGlubs2009 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrZega000 Mistakes is putting it lightly. That was a CHOICE.
@YetiUprising
@YetiUprising 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: "God hates me." Also Arin: Doesn't stay in jail to bide time, doesn't buy Boardwalk, doesn't sell hotels to take up houses.
@brotherhoodofthebrow3899
@brotherhoodofthebrow3899 2 жыл бұрын
While your first two points are valid (as well as many others you didn't mention), I don't think selling hotels applies here. The house rules they used state that you can buy houses without a monopoly and buy hotels without having four houses. Since there was never an option onscreen to buy hotels immediately, that probably means you can buy hotels when all houses are used up.
@YetiUprising
@YetiUprising 2 жыл бұрын
@@brotherhoodofthebrow3899 yes the ai would be forced to spend money putting up hotels to free up more houses reducing the money available to spread houses all over. Edit: the number of houses and hotels remaining were on the screen when they managed properties
@chloehenson6379
@chloehenson6379 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he made so many mistakes it was kinda frustrating to watch.
@Glumsage
@Glumsage 2 жыл бұрын
game grumps playing board games is top tier youtube content
@TheSpektrum1989
@TheSpektrum1989 2 жыл бұрын
Monopoly is just a sugar coated way of enabling Arin's gambling obsession
@CausticCatastrophe
@CausticCatastrophe 2 жыл бұрын
the CPU's bullshit luck this game was just amazing. "advance to boardwalk after i put a much of houses on it" feels exactly like that one guy that sneaks the card on top lol.
@kijukitten
@kijukitten 2 жыл бұрын
its because it did
@DarthViperious
@DarthViperious 2 жыл бұрын
Michel at the end of the game: "I am inevitable."
@senatorsparky
@senatorsparky 2 жыл бұрын
“In which Arin again learns that putting the AI on hard results in them getting luckier rolls”
@baron.whimsy
@baron.whimsy 2 жыл бұрын
@@senatorsparky Implying that Aaron has the capacity for learning, what with the "Can I earn money whilst in jail?" the turn after he had to pay money to the AI _in jail._ :|
@KatrinaMishow
@KatrinaMishow 2 жыл бұрын
I love how freaking much this game OBVIOUSLY cheats when the AI's on hard. I mean... like... a few coincidences, I can see, but the computer's rolls are ALWAYS to it's advantage.
@AutisticGameGuy
@AutisticGameGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Arin got last because instead of "naturally" bankrupting like Dan and the other AI, he technically forfeited.
@serienzp
@serienzp 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think this episode proved my theory: Monopoly Plus for Windows is indeed racist towards Raptors. This man literally quit the game and reloaded 2-3 times just to give himself a chance, and the game said "no." Michel would not land on any of Arin's hotels, avoiding them like the hot damn plague of 1847, and even when Michel landed on bad Chances or whatever, and it seemed Arin had a chance to steal victory from the jaws of defeat, once again, the game said "no." If this doesn't prove it, I don't know what will. With that said, I bet if Arin stayed in jail, he would have won.
@Mr12Relic
@Mr12Relic 2 жыл бұрын
12:45 Arin lets it go for 150 Mortgage value 200
@bobtheguy6241
@bobtheguy6241 2 жыл бұрын
Arin giving up the boardwalk just gave me an aneurysm, if he puts any houses on that thing it's basically an instant win and he would have only gotten it for less than half it's normal price! Arin why do you do this to yourself lol
@nate_venture
@nate_venture 2 жыл бұрын
Just to…whoever might need to know: if you can buy a property at auction for less than what you'll get back from mortgaging it, just buy it even if you don't want it and immediately mortgage for profit. So like, if you could buy Boardwalk for, I dunno, about $150, maybe don't let the AI have it when you could take it and just mortgage it off for $50 profit.
@bennettbodnar5531
@bennettbodnar5531 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Michel never landed on any of Arin's super expensive properties, especially because it really begs the question of whether the game was already biased toward the hard AI by the time Arin and Michel were the only ones left
@thisiswhatilike54
@thisiswhatilike54 2 жыл бұрын
Hard difficulty in Monopoly for Windows only refers to how loaded the dice are in the AI’s favor. Little if nothing more.
@radical_dog
@radical_dog 2 жыл бұрын
@@thisiswhatilike54 That's absolutely not true. The AI behaves very differently to Easy (which is *very* bad). This one got lucky because Arin had about 4 big properties at worst, when he could have done stuff like unmortgage railroads for a lot more $100 spaces. Seriously, making a "dice loading" hard AI is more difficult than just making one that buys properties if they're auctioned below their mortgage price etc...
@burnin8able
@burnin8able 2 жыл бұрын
@@radical_dog ah, yes, because establishing flags for a random number generator to not roll specific values is TOTALLY more difficult that multi-variable strategic decision making.
@radical_dog
@radical_dog 2 жыл бұрын
@@burnin8able Honestly, yeah. I've programmed board game AI, and turned down a job at Marmalade who do the app version of Monopoly. Weighing up the quality of spaces without obviously ruining the game is every bit as hard as making it just do basic strategy steps (that our dear hosts don't do). And they've often beaten these very same hard AI, as the AI gets fair rolls and sometimes has bad luck.
@notyocousin
@notyocousin 2 жыл бұрын
This is great, and the fact anyone would be mad at arin just being arin on monopoly surprises me. The man is CHATOIC AS FUCK AND WE LOVE HIM FOR IT. 😂😂
@TheMultiGamerOfficial
@TheMultiGamerOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I don't.
@reagansido5823
@reagansido5823 2 жыл бұрын
"If it's a full episode, that means Arin and Michel really went at it." the next turn: Arin lands on one of their triple house properties and has to reset the turn just to not lose/snowball into losing.
@nevetsrules01
@nevetsrules01 2 жыл бұрын
When Arin didn't buy Boardwalk in auction I wanted to scream - he could have bought it and mortgaged it for more money than he paid for it! Michel certainly made him regret that one!
@highvoltage988
@highvoltage988 2 жыл бұрын
Arin always goes all in on the light blues, which are statistically terrible. Never change, my boy.
@findtheearth
@findtheearth 2 жыл бұрын
I came here to say exactly this. The game even has some reminder text that tells you orange and red are the most profitable properties. Meanwhile he and Dan mortgage their orange properties and leave them that way all game.
@highvoltage988
@highvoltage988 2 жыл бұрын
@@findtheearth The problem we both have is we expect Arin to read something the game is telling him.
@charlemagne111027
@charlemagne111027 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the statistics don't matter when the game is going to cheat every roll.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 2 жыл бұрын
The light blues aren't bad. They're the best properties on the bottom half of the board.
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN
@THENAMEISQUICKMAN 2 жыл бұрын
Light blues are bad? I always go with them and the oranges. That's my strategy as a whole. Fuck the utilities, fuck the railroads, just get those two sets.
@MortalSora
@MortalSora 2 жыл бұрын
I am fully convinced at this point that the Hard AI literally cheats
@thelexicon7294
@thelexicon7294 2 жыл бұрын
I might be misremembering, but I could swear someone did the math and legitimately proved this. It was specifically for this version of Monopoly. Hard AI is just the game cheating you out of a fair shot.
@DarthZ01
@DarthZ01 2 жыл бұрын
It's guaranteed to get better rolls, very high chance to thread needles, land on properties and needed color sets, etc. Just look at all the times it hit chance/chest in between Arin's properties JUST to avoid giving him money.
@inste10300
@inste10300 2 жыл бұрын
"I put it on hard bc it's entertaining" The comments: anger at Arin's bad decisions
@MrZega000
@MrZega000 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't want this property" Boardwalk: Can auction for $150 and mortgage for $200, would later cost him $600. Idk if it's playing on tilt, or having to pee, or just wanting the game to end, but that was a huge mistake.
@Chlorate299
@Chlorate299 2 жыл бұрын
I bet if we analysed the dice rolls Michel is getting, we'd find that the "harder" AI settings have the RNG weighted in their favour.
@mehlessmidori602
@mehlessmidori602 2 жыл бұрын
That's a bet you'll lose ten times over. Michel had a forty leaf clover.
@robertfalk3767
@robertfalk3767 2 жыл бұрын
Arin's ignorance to owning the water works, his confusion about gaining money in jail directly after he paid the AI who was in jail, and various other things is peak game grumps.
@DenDhur
@DenDhur 2 жыл бұрын
Michel and Amandine Vs Arin and Dan, now that's a slaughter we wanna see
@kidz9499
@kidz9499 2 жыл бұрын
22:30 I said the words aloud, "Land on Chance and go to Boardwalk, you son of a bitch." and then it happened. I have no idea how the stars aligned so beautifully. This is too hilarious. I missed Monopoly so much. Now here's hoping they'll try Normal AI for once.
@_NoDrinkTheBleach
@_NoDrinkTheBleach 2 жыл бұрын
13:22 Might be the most guttural scream Arin has let out this decade.
@VERDICTInsanity
@VERDICTInsanity 2 жыл бұрын
If Arin went cave-diving he would immediately jump down into the abyss barely tying his safety ropes and just throw climbing clamps at the walls on the way down…… I fucking love that man 💜
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 жыл бұрын
When Michel was sent to jail, I could feel a miasma of utter hate coming from my computer.
@JimmyTheAce89
@JimmyTheAce89 2 жыл бұрын
One rule for boardwalk: NEVER let you opponent have it unless you’re getting something amazing in return or he/she is financially drained (and don’t EVER give it up if you can outbid your opponent).
@SwagGrandmaToesAndLows
@SwagGrandmaToesAndLows 2 жыл бұрын
I already know this is going to be good
@Vanitas42
@Vanitas42 2 жыл бұрын
i get the AI is hard and probably influences the dice rolls, but even that went against all probability to pretty much never land on any of the big money properties at least once. That AI influence over the rolls was too heavy handed.
@serbadork
@serbadork 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember where I read this, I think it was in the comments of another grumps monopoly video, and idk if this is true but allegedly the AI is the same intelligence for every difficulty or maybe slightly higher or lower; the difficulty settings mostly just influence how lucky everyone’s dice rolls are. In a way that’s even MORE infuriating because it’s basically artificial difficulty lol the AI is actually stupid and gets lucky rolls from the game being on their side
@yamahadrag69
@yamahadrag69 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: I just want a nice little challenge. Also Arin, five seconds later: WHY DOES GOD HATE ME?? XD
@m0nd4y41
@m0nd4y41 2 жыл бұрын
The tag for ‘pained and emasculated’ has me rolling
@thatgirlinblack3797
@thatgirlinblack3797 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Dan jus screams n says. "I think u can survive it." And Arin's jus groans. Lol cuz all I heard in subtext was how arin would jus go jump out the nearest window lol.
@leeroyjenkins3391
@leeroyjenkins3391 2 жыл бұрын
He groaned because he had to go pee😂
@thatgirlinblack3797
@thatgirlinblack3797 2 жыл бұрын
Ya but u kno the thought crossed his mind lol.
@SuperDuper507
@SuperDuper507 2 жыл бұрын
After so many games with hard AI, I'm starting to feel like the game weighs the hard AI's dice. They seemingly never land on the big, bad properties that would massively hurt them.
@thisiswhatilike54
@thisiswhatilike54 2 жыл бұрын
You’d be right.
@Darebearlovesbug
@Darebearlovesbug 2 жыл бұрын
Mortgaging the oranges was definitely not the play.
@crocadillius6418
@crocadillius6418 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard a scream like that since Dan got 17 lose a turns
@mexicanglizzy6936
@mexicanglizzy6936 2 жыл бұрын
16:42 you can hear Arin's excited screams from the other room
@junkjunk81
@junkjunk81 2 жыл бұрын
Standard Arin procedure for any game that involves strategy: 1. Don't bother learning the rules. 2. Make terrible decisions. 3. Lose 4. Complain that you lost because of bad luck and/or some kind of bias in the game. It was very poetic that Boardwalk was his undoing shortly after he let the AI have it for less than its mortgage value.
@Andrew-ww1hz
@Andrew-ww1hz 2 жыл бұрын
Well with regards to the last point, the game is biased since hard mode AI has better rolls.
@colespielman1493
@colespielman1493 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of times Arin sold houses when his utility was one space away has drivin me insane
@phoenixsoren
@phoenixsoren 2 жыл бұрын
I always love to see Arin wildly overestimate the difficulty level of human beings, who are generally normal difficulty
@ResurrectedDeath
@ResurrectedDeath 2 жыл бұрын
12:43 That Girlchan reference! Nice to see Arin still remembers his cartoons.
@theFLCLguy
@theFLCLguy 2 жыл бұрын
Arin should have got boardwalk because he could have mortgaged it and would have a net gain of $40.
@tvftw1
@tvftw1 2 жыл бұрын
and once again they fail to realize that buying a property for less than half its value means you can immediately mortgage it for a profit
@mitkonikolov1439
@mitkonikolov1439 2 жыл бұрын
Letting the NPC get a dark blue when you could get it and MAKE money... Not seeing you have a utility to mortgage and start selling houses first... Paying the computer while they're in jail then next turn not knowing if you get paid in jail so you leave early... I love these guys and I know it's not easy to do what they do but this one REALLY tests me.
@Tokiofan13
@Tokiofan13 2 жыл бұрын
This entire game I was screaming "MORTGAGE THE UTILITY"
@ThisIsCSDX
@ThisIsCSDX 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you know what'd be a better idea and tons more fun to watch and for you guys to enjoy? Not having the AI be on the hardest difficulty!!!
@e7nn
@e7nn 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say this is funnier
@jellybingus416
@jellybingus416 2 жыл бұрын
I play this a good bit. AI difficulty doesn't really affect the strategy of the AI it just changes the likelihood that the AI lands on the player's properties. It actually changes the dice rolls.
@foxfirecasting3702
@foxfirecasting3702 2 жыл бұрын
I love that when Arin gets excited you get the echo of him from the other room coming through Dan's mic.
@peanuttygoodness1588
@peanuttygoodness1588 2 жыл бұрын
Why do they never value railroads. When you have all 4, it can save your bacon. That's how I usually win. It's a steady $200 on every side of the board.
@aslandus
@aslandus 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they're also worth a decent sum, and you lose less value when you mortgage them than you do when you sell houses
@KyleVoices
@KyleVoices 2 жыл бұрын
2:25 “ICANTBELIEVEYOU” I LOVE when Arin references his old cartoons.
@enbybunny9940
@enbybunny9940 2 жыл бұрын
The way the both of them express anguish at the events they experience this game are hilarious
@tesral6305
@tesral6305 2 жыл бұрын
Dan thank you so much for having Arin continue this game, this was the most I’ve laughed in a while lol
@lucapirie-ball4541
@lucapirie-ball4541 2 жыл бұрын
I can't lie I LOVE this series.
@NerkAtWork
@NerkAtWork 2 жыл бұрын
This episode will be in every "Arin Rage" compilation 😅
@NebulousPendulum
@NebulousPendulum 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another game of the boys not understanding that the CPU difficulty in Monopoly only changes the luck of the rolls
@DarthViperious
@DarthViperious 2 жыл бұрын
6:05 Arin channeling the spirit of Michael Scott.
@DigitalxGamer
@DigitalxGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Arin: Let me kill you or you kill me, I just want to get back to my life.... Arin, she's killed you three times now, you've just restarted the game for the lols xD
@seahawk97838
@seahawk97838 2 жыл бұрын
5:26 The best music moment of the year, so far. 😂😍.
@JaySay
@JaySay 2 жыл бұрын
Keep your chin up arin, you _somewhat_ beat Dan this time at least? Might be time for a fun, all computers on easy round, to really dominate the AI. Show those fake gamers who's BOSS
@dantespicysausage9615
@dantespicysausage9615 2 жыл бұрын
There's a seven~....Thank you. *Dan wheezes then smacks Arin then proceeds to curl up and laughs*
@RAWproductions2000
@RAWproductions2000 2 жыл бұрын
16.48 arin is so excitedly shouting you can hear him on both mics 😂
@egtoonster
@egtoonster 2 жыл бұрын
12:42 that girlchan in paradise bit caught me off-guard
@321krahs
@321krahs 2 жыл бұрын
They still don' realize that hard AI is just cheating the dice?
@politicalsubscriptions3676
@politicalsubscriptions3676 2 жыл бұрын
shut up they'll read this and then we won't get to see them suffer next time
@robharli
@robharli 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Mortgage your Water Works. Arin: _mortgages a Railroad_ Me: Alright. THIS TIME mortgage your Water Works. Arin: _mortgages the other Railroad_ Michel: _lands on one of said Railroads_ Me: GOD DAMMIT! xD I also said at 13:08 "Watch him roll a double and go to Jail." I got half of that right at least. xD
@cameronprice4922
@cameronprice4922 2 жыл бұрын
Arin still hasn’t won monopoly plus once. XD
@mysticeye4525
@mysticeye4525 2 жыл бұрын
Who knew that passing up getting the most valuable property for a cheap price, and allowing the hard AI to get it would turn out in such a way...
@jordankintz4227
@jordankintz4227 2 жыл бұрын
Michel, the All-Consuming. The Alpha and the Omega. The Eternal.
@user-gn5bu7tx1b
@user-gn5bu7tx1b 2 жыл бұрын
The way the AI's rolls are rigged in this game feels depressingly similar to reality
@WilliamTheMuddy
@WilliamTheMuddy 2 жыл бұрын
Arin for the love of everything, stop putting the AI on hard in this game. It doesn't actually make them a more intelligent or difficult opponent, it just means that they make better rolls. The rolls in this game are _not random_ for AI set to hard. They will _never_ land on your properties unless it can't really hurt them all that badly. The game is _poorly programmed._ Just set them to normal!
@vigorouslethargy
@vigorouslethargy 2 жыл бұрын
Or even better, play with two more people.
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