Michelin CrossClimate 2s 75'000 Mile final review

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Vincent Mills

Vincent Mills

4 ай бұрын

Michelin CrossClimate 2s 75'000 mile final review. Mounted on the 2021 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid

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@foadysfah
@foadysfah 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest review! I've bought these 3 weeks ago, and 3 days ago I finally took them on the mountain after a night of fresh snow. I just want to say that I was passing by all the other cars stopping to put snowchains on, my car was not slipping at all, and I felt really comfortable and in control on these, until I reached the ski resort I was heading to. I'm really impressed with these tires, if they hold up for the kms they are advertised, they are amazing! The Bridgestone A005 Evo I had before were left with almost no tread after 44.000km which I felt was a little too early. I'll be back in two years to give you my honest opinion after I wear them out!
@quinceywhitney3224
@quinceywhitney3224 3 ай бұрын
Bought these tires a year ago on my Subaru forester. Best decision I’ve made. I was worried about wear, but after 20k miles I still have very good tread depth! Probably last me about 60k miles before replacement.
@brandonwiley6530
@brandonwiley6530 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insight, I’m replacing the Bridgestone Ecopia junk that Lexus put on my RX from the factory with these next week. I expect a similar experience as you have a sister product. I also keep my tires between 37-38 to account for barometric pressures here in Florida, as well as tire wear (I have 20 inch rims) .
@JasonO-we3qt
@JasonO-we3qt 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this video.
@internetabyss
@internetabyss Ай бұрын
I got those on my 2021 RAV4 Prime. Great tires!!!
@berndadam8703
@berndadam8703 Ай бұрын
Great tires. I own the cc2 from Michelin in Germany. Thea have an extra "VOL" label, which I guess comes from the fact that they had been made for Volvo. I used them on our electric car (Kia EV6) and with 5Tousand miles a year, we can use them endless.... Nevertheless in Germany we say that tires after 8 years get bridle. Have a nice time and thanks for your video. I convinced a lot a people to buy these tires.
@TheAgentAssassin
@TheAgentAssassin Ай бұрын
I have the 1st gen Cross Climate tires. Great tires but little pebbles get stuck in between the grooves. It didn't seem to hurt the tire at all. But I always managed to find a nail or sharp piece of metal in these tires. Two of em got punctures. I guess a bonus is the little rocks act like studs in the snow? Hah Mine went smooth pretty fast though. I guess the 1st gen were much softer.
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 Ай бұрын
This is what I am worrying about. I drive on many dirt, gravel, and peagravel roads and concerned these will eat rocks just to spit them out at my underside, fenders and other cars.
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow 13 күн бұрын
I like the chalk test -- good idea.
@histyler
@histyler 4 ай бұрын
I had cross climate 2s on my bmw 335 and they were phenomenal even in winter. I put them on at 250k and drove the car till 320km and then the car was sold and it had still lots of tread left to pass safety. This is the best all round tire in the market.
@Andreas16375
@Andreas16375 3 ай бұрын
I live in sweden and ordered these after seeing all the reviews, The shop mounting them told me "are you really sure you want to mount them with the snow out right now?" I got abit worried but confidently said yes put them on Coming from Goodyear Ultragrip Ice 2 i can't even tell a difference, They just plow right through the snow and ice and we get ALOT of it up here. Plus i get to keep my nice rims on all year round instead of having a second beater set for the winter. Just remains to see how they are in the summer but right now i'm very happy
@Zeek800
@Zeek800 3 ай бұрын
Good in the Summer as well mine have two Summers on them and now a second Winter as of today ( February 26th ) and I checked the tread depth which is 8/32s of an inch all across the tire. The reason the tire tech questioned your decision to put these on is that in Europe these are considered an All Season tire. In North America they are called an All Weather tire meaning they carry the 3 Peak Mountain Snowflake symbol which is what Winter tires have on their sidewalls. The tread d3sign is so the tread’s grooves actually widen as they wear. Drive under control and you will easily get 75,000 plus of use before 5hey might need to be changed for winter driving in Sweden.
@Azureecosse
@Azureecosse 10 күн бұрын
I am surprised by your Comment I live in Northern Sweden, Cross climates would be useless here in mid winter, I am not even sure if they would be legal as a dedicated Winter tire either, my thoughts are they are good for mild winter driving when its very wet. I agree with your tire shop they would laugh me out the building if I asked for these to be fitted to my car. I will stick with my Nokians . I am guessing you live around Småland where is snows very little.
@rog5272
@rog5272 2 ай бұрын
They're nice tires, but the first thing i noticed was tire noise, these tires are not loud, but annoying buzzing sound. With previous tires, other brand, wasn't very noticeable.
@jakesnake680
@jakesnake680 3 ай бұрын
I have a set on a 2015 Toyota Venza, location Muskoka Ontario. My opinion is for winter driving they are NOT confidence inspiring, and actually a little scary . I pulled them off, and went back to my Blizzaks. I would rate these on par with a good all-season, but I cannot recommend them for any winter driving at all!!, despite what others are saying.
@MarySummerhill
@MarySummerhill 28 күн бұрын
Bought a set of these from Costco and had slightly less than 10k miles on them when the sidewall blew out on my left front at 80 mph on the Interstate outside of Columbus, MT. Sidewall had big chunks out of it. Called Costco in Billings to see if they had a tire and they did not. Called AAA for roadside assistance and almost 4 hours later had to end up calling a local towing service to come out and install the spare and put air in it. Limped into the Billings Costco and had to buy a new set of tires as we were 250:miles from home and I didn’t want to chance trying to get that far on a temp spare at 50 mph. Thought the tires were great in ice and snow but question the strength of the sidewall after this. AAA’s roadside people never showed up nor called
@Flow-rs1qg
@Flow-rs1qg 17 күн бұрын
It's better than cheap tires like sentury touring or Arizonian tires
@vpenywise
@vpenywise 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! I live in Europe and here we get a completely different type of tires - even though it's the same brand, the same model name, ours are made of completely different compound and they wouldn't last even half the mileage you're mentioning. Just FYI 🙂
@Rapscallion2009
@Rapscallion2009 2 ай бұрын
We do - and I don't know how I feel about it. I've noticed from Dashcam videos that it usually doesn't seem to take a lot to make American vehicles enter a slide with huge clouds of white smoke. I wondered why and I suspect it's the tire compounds being far harder.
@leonardocozza3140
@leonardocozza3140 2 ай бұрын
Hello fromm Italy Why crossclimate sold in Europe should be any different?!
@vpenywise
@vpenywise 2 ай бұрын
@leonardocozza3140 Generally it's because of the much higher gas prices in Europe, so the emphasis of a tyre should be towards the best possible mileage, rather than longevity. That's one of the reasons anyway. The tyre manufacturers make completely different tyres for the different markets around the world. So watching reviews online could be "misleading" if you don't know it. E.g., the Michelin Crossclimate 2 is certified with 60,000 miles warranty in the US, which is about 100,000km. We don't get any warranty in Europe, let alone a 100k km one 🙂
@Rapscallion2009
@Rapscallion2009 2 ай бұрын
@@vpenywise I think a harder tyre compound would actually make the rolling resistance less, improving fuel efficiency. The USA seems to expect a far longer life from their tyres. I suspect the USA has less emphasis on grip and cornering performance than euro - Market conditions are different. If you sold euro tyres in the USA they'd be annoyed how quickly they wore out and if you sold USA ones in euro they'd be annoyed at how little grip they offered. It's actually observable in dashcam videos. USA tyres smoke a lot more and are more vocal.
@itsagoal182
@itsagoal182 17 күн бұрын
Compounds are the same.
@Bigal1069
@Bigal1069 19 күн бұрын
Are the climate 2 tires good for 104 degrees weather?
@dfmpdx
@dfmpdx 4 ай бұрын
great reviews. how much did you pay for them? I want some for my CRV
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 4 ай бұрын
225 a tire. but costco has them on sale every once in awhile
@oscarsuarez4843
@oscarsuarez4843 10 күн бұрын
@@vincentmills4062what do you think about X tour a/s from Costco ? Warranty 80k
@victorsaleeb5632
@victorsaleeb5632 17 күн бұрын
Are these tires good for fuel consumption?
@AP-qu8sl
@AP-qu8sl Ай бұрын
Would you recommend these for someone in Texas? We don’t have snow. Also, the drop in mpg is temporary?
@vincentlouisaerialproduction
@vincentlouisaerialproduction Ай бұрын
These are a great year round tire and if you get any rain these tires are excellent for not hydroplaning
@AP-qu8sl
@AP-qu8sl Ай бұрын
@@vincentlouisaerialproduction is there a substantial drop in mpg?
@dansmith5151
@dansmith5151 Ай бұрын
AAHH them ROCKS !!!! in UK we call them pebbles i.e. tiny stones or shingle,, ha ! keep up the great vids bud.
@jmwylie7751
@jmwylie7751 Ай бұрын
How much snow and ice do you have. I want to try them in Texas where we have very little snow and ice. Opinion?
@vincentlouisaerialproduction
@vincentlouisaerialproduction Ай бұрын
Maybe 2 weeks a year. But I really like the anti hydroplaning in wet weather the most
@JmjomarRamos
@JmjomarRamos 3 ай бұрын
Did you do tire rotation?
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 3 ай бұрын
Yes every 5k miles front to back
@drivewayy
@drivewayy 2 ай бұрын
You showed 4/32's on the outsides of your tire and 5/32's in the middle of the tire...maybe 36psi is a touch low and 38-39psi will result in more even tread wear for you? I just swapped my tires recently also. Was opposite of you and had les tread in the middle of the tires. 44psi proved too much; even though my chalk test showed otherwise. Coincidentally, I am going to drop to 38-39psi on these new current tires; should result in more even wear. The arbitrary OEM specs recommend 36psi for my vehicle as well. Take care.
@DaveInCanada081
@DaveInCanada081 4 ай бұрын
Are you saying you got 75000 miles out of 1 set of Crossclimate2 tires?
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 4 ай бұрын
Yes right around 75000 + -1000 miles
@rj7855
@rj7855 4 ай бұрын
"Fours and fives" 4 and 5 what, inches, milimeters, ants, grains of sand? .... Units are important
@DaveInCanada081
@DaveInCanada081 4 ай бұрын
@@vincentmills4062 I agree with running the tire pressure around 36, I do the same and found I get perfect tire wear when I run slightly higher air pressures
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 4 ай бұрын
32nds
@mda5003
@mda5003 3 ай бұрын
@@vincentmills4062 And that would have been from 8mm (brand new) to 5mm? Could you really have then got another 75,000 miles running the tread depths down to 2mm (in the UK the legal limit is 1.6mm and maybe we don't get the same extreme weather as you)?
@spartanj2957
@spartanj2957 4 ай бұрын
How ofton do you rotate?i run mine at 36 also car plate on door says 35 .
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 4 ай бұрын
Every 5k
@verynick
@verynick 4 ай бұрын
can you rotate on a AWD as well? @@vincentmills4062
@spartanj2957
@spartanj2957 4 ай бұрын
The manufacturer did a test .They took a new stet and shaved them to 3 /32 and found the ability in snow was slightly better than a new set. Here in the upper Midwest we get a lot of snow and I run them all winter in wet ,dry and heavy snow.left my garage and plowed through 26 inches of med wet snow with all wheel drive no problem. a A couple of days later I got on a country black top road with very smooth compleatly compacted surface. At 40 mph I hit the brakes and to my amazement the car stopped like it was on dry blacktop with out the anti lock brakes not activating at all till I was at 1 maybe 2 mph for a second. They don't let the car slide in some heave slush I was in a day later while passing and changing lanes at 50 mph. They are so much more capable then I ever thought the could be. But this was all done with AWD . I will using M x climate 2 's for ever ,year round too. In heavy standing water had no hydro planning.Wher I did notice HP was during cornering,just for a sec but it was there so when cornering slow it down .As you noticed when fairly worn it could be a prob.
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your review. I hope everyone reads this because I have had little experience in the snow and it sounds like these tires will do the job when needed
@JIBMONEY
@JIBMONEY 3 ай бұрын
Bro, now that is a strong dope super fly clean garage you got going there. I really like the cracks in the garage floor for extra video flavor. I think sweeping your garage would make your videos more clean room friendly. As for the tires, would they go all summer in that condition? I like the way you show the new tires in the background. Steak and Lobster eating billionaire eating JIBMONEY out.
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 3 ай бұрын
Yes they go all summer in that condition
@Anonymous-ji4sb
@Anonymous-ji4sb 3 ай бұрын
How many miles are on that car?
@vincentlouisaerialproduction
@vincentlouisaerialproduction 3 ай бұрын
170k at this moment
@jilljuberian8651
@jilljuberian8651 Ай бұрын
I just got these does anyone know if there good in wi ter i live in minnesota alot snow and ice. Did u really get 75000 they have warrenty of 60000 or did u mea. 7 500
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 Ай бұрын
Yes I got a little over 75000 miles on these tires
@Sports_Agent
@Sports_Agent Ай бұрын
Sir, how do you run 70,000 miles in one year. You say you do Uber, but 70k mikes in a year?
@vincentlouisaerialproduction
@vincentlouisaerialproduction Ай бұрын
I do roughly 60k per year doing uber / lyft
@bhshakari
@bhshakari 2 ай бұрын
You drove 75,000 miles in one year??
@genderlessyoutubefanperson
@genderlessyoutubefanperson 2 ай бұрын
That is a lot... I drove that much on average per year, but this is my job, so it is normal. I think he mentioned that he is an Uber driver....it makes sense now. :)
@vincentlouisaerialproduction
@vincentlouisaerialproduction 2 ай бұрын
About a year and maybe 2 months
@ritterengine1289
@ritterengine1289 Ай бұрын
Are they quiet?
@vincentlouisaerialproduction
@vincentlouisaerialproduction Ай бұрын
Yes indeed very quiet and comfortable ride
@ritterengine1289
@ritterengine1289 Ай бұрын
@@vincentlouisaerialproduction Thanks. I hear mix things in terms of noise so figured I’d ask.
@JamesBond-hy4kv
@JamesBond-hy4kv Ай бұрын
I don’t like the lack of grip in the wet.
@jonathan6296
@jonathan6296 Ай бұрын
I have the Michelin CrossClimate "1" and I will NEVER buy Michelin ever again.
@vincentlouisaerialproduction
@vincentlouisaerialproduction Ай бұрын
Ok. But why? please share your negative thoughts with everyone
@jonathan6296
@jonathan6296 Ай бұрын
@@vincentlouisaerialproduction I'll try to keep it short and excuse my knowledge of English. I drive probably 15'000km per year. Mainly city driving. The tread edges tore off in a matter of a month. Meaning, where you have a sharp 90 degrees turn on the the pattern towards the tire, it is ripped off. Driving on wet is very slippery. Where I live the winter is "meh", it's mostly wet so big con here! The tires have a strange relation with water overall. Once I left the car in an airport underground parking for 2 weeks. It was really humid and the floor was quite wet. For 2 days after I picked up the car the spots where the tires were touching the ground were very stiff and hard. You would hear the noise they made when the previously wet sports would hit the ground. Every time the tires stand in water this happens and it goes away quicker or slower depending on how long it was standing in water. One or two of the 4 tires have permanently harder spot on the tread, at least that's what I think it is. You can hear it, you can feel it in the steering wheel and pedals but not enough to have them returned. The company I bought them in tolled me that and I quote "you are using the tires wrong". I was so dumbfounded I didn't know how to respond! All the tires are balanced and the steering wheel is not "flying" around, it's just slightly vibrating in that one spot. Also I have the same issue as you mentioned, rock picking like crazy ... My main issue is that this is not premium quality tires but you sure pay premium and with so many competitors there is just no point trying Michelin again.
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 3 ай бұрын
Hello everyone just wanted to add this video from another reviewer I found on you tube . This gentlemen was running these tires on straight up ice. Great review kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5PIkKWoq56Bqsksi=476qTtoTw0Cr042S
@Arid379
@Arid379 3 ай бұрын
Did you say 75 k miles on the tires with out replacing it, i not getting into your car anymore
@Jeo-What
@Jeo-What 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review and these tires are excellent from -40F/-40C to 104F/40C so far for the last 3 years and 9 months even on freezing rain, blizzard or unplowed 2 feet of snow with my FWD HEV or a 20 years old minivan. Interesting the way you test the evenness and I am going to give it a try. Regarding cold tire pressure, I thought it should been measured in outdoor condition (what if the car is in a heated garage!): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_inflation_pressure#:~:text=Recommended%20cold%20inflation%20pressure%20is,when%20not%20warmed%20by%20driving.
@vincentmills4062
@vincentmills4062 3 ай бұрын
heated garage would change the outcome
@Jeo-What
@Jeo-What 3 ай бұрын
@@vincentmills4062 I guess it depends on the individual locations as my unheated garage vs outdoor may have 2 to 25° differences during the winter time since some heat still radiates through the garage wall from the house and in reverse during the summertime. I tried the even test yesterday and everything was evenly throughout multiple areas of the tires. Thank you for the suggestions and the review.
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