Michelin CrossClimate 2s 75'000 Mile final review

[@foadysfah]

Thank you for your honest review! I've bought these 3 weeks ago, and 3 days ago I finally took them on the mountain after a night of fresh snow. I just want to say that I was passing by all the other cars stopping to put snowchains on, my car was not slipping at all, and I felt really comfortable and in control on these, until I reached the ski resort I was heading to. I'm really impressed with these tires, if they hold up for the kms they are advertised, they are amazing! The Bridgestone A005 Evo I had before were left with almost no tread after 44.000km which I felt was a little too early. I'll be back in two years to give you my honest opinion after I wear them out!

[@MichalMarko]

Hi! How would you compare these tires to the Bridgestone A005 Evo? How have your Michelins held up over time? I drive a Fiat 500, which is a fairly light car, and I've had some bad experiences with the Bridgestones, especially in snowy conditions. I'm considering giving all-season tires one more shot before switching away for good. Since you've had the chance to try both, I'd love to hear your thoughts and whether you're happy with the Michelins so far!

[@JaykeBlayde]

new tires always go good in the snow (deepest tread). try again when there's 5/32 tread left

[@quinceywhitney3224]

Bought these tires a year ago on my Subaru forester. Best decision I’ve made. I was worried about wear, but after 20k miles I still have very good tread depth! Probably last me about 60k miles before replacement.

[@guymann4016]

About to buy my 3rd set (3rd vehicle). I’ve used many different tires and these are hands down the best tire. I live in Minnesota. They grab ice and snow like a dream.

[@ipcamtalk4314]

Awesome update! Thank you for taking the time to do this. Insane that you are at 4-5/32 at 75k miles. They are long lasting.

[@livingaboard]

I don’t wait until my tires are down to 2/32 to replace unless I’m coming up on a dry season. If I’m approaching winter and I’m low I’m getting new tires.

[@histyler]

I had cross climate 2s on my bmw 335 and they were phenomenal even in winter. I put them on at 250k and drove the car till 320km and then the car was sold and it had still lots of tread left to pass safety. This is the best all round tire in the market.

[@escheidl]

I have 83k mi's. on my CrossClimate2's in 4 years of driving with a set on my 2018 Camry hybrid and still have a healthy 5/32nds left. They still perform outstanding even in the rain. My Camry rides on 205/65/R16's, so they probably still slice through the water better than the wider 18's on your RAV4 do. My only complaint with these tires is the effect they had on my gas mileage with my hybrid. I immediately lost 8 mpg when I installed them and it has only come back incrementally as they wore. Like 1 mpg every 10k. I attribute this to the fact that 90% of my driving is at speeds around 70 mph. These tires are far more roll resistant at high speeds than they are at lower speeds. I don't think there's near as much drag at speeds of 50 mph and lower. But at 70 mph I can actually feel the car slow down faster when I lift my foot off the throttle than before. I don't notice that below 50 mph. That's why there is such a discrepancy with peoples different driving conditions. A person that routinely drives in the city and only uses the freeway for a short distance to get to their next destination will not likely notice much, if any drop in mpg. But a person that lives in a small rural town and spends most of their driving on the Interstate like I do will take a big hit in mpg with these tires. And especially with a hybrid because it forces my car to run the engine more and the electric motor less due to the high speed drag. Thus the initial 8 mpg loss. But now that I have over 80k on them, my fuel mileage has been pretty much restored and I still have another 15-20k to go. Since it is the end of summer for me, I will run these through 1 more winter and sometime before next winter I will replace them. They should have around 100k mi's. on them by then and be worn to around 3/32nds which I don't mind running through the summer. I will be replacing these with the same Michelin CC2 tires. They will have more than doubled the mileage of the Firestones they replaced and the Michelins were only around $50 more for the set than the Firestones were. Even though I figure they will have cost me close to $800 extra in fuel costs over the course of 100k mi's. over the Firestones, the savings of not having to buy two sets of tires in that amount of time make it a wash financially. And the safety and performance these tires provide as well as the peace of mind of not ending up in the ditch in bad weather easily far outweigh the cost of the extra fuel. These tires are about the best I think you can get for a passenger car.

[@brandonwiley6530]

Thank you for the insight, I’m replacing the Bridgestone Ecopia junk that Lexus put on my RX from the factory with these next week. I expect a similar experience as you have a sister product. I also keep my tires between 37-38 to account for barometric pressures here in Florida, as well as tire wear (I have 20 inch rims) .

[@mingwong7729]

How is the noise level? Thank you.

[@brandonwiley6530]

@@mingwong7729 I have put 2,000 miles on these tires, the noise is not existent in my RX, you know how well these cars are noise insulated. Even if they do start to get noise as they wear I am still happy with the traction and stability especially in wet.

[@mingwong7729]

@@brandonwiley6530 Thank you. I had RXL using Premier LTX from factory. Road is tough in here NYC. Thank you for let me know.

[@brandonwiley6530]

@@mingwong7729 you’ll enjoy them, they are always the cheapest at Costco but if your local Lexus dealership price matches it might be worth it

[@berndadam8703]

Great tires. I own the cc2 from Michelin in Germany. Thea have an extra "VOL" label, which I guess comes from the fact that they had been made for Volvo. I used them on our electric car (Kia EV6) and with 5Tousand miles a year, we can use them endless.... Nevertheless in Germany we say that tires after 8 years get bridle. Have a nice time and thanks for your video. I convinced a lot a people to buy these tires.

[@DaveInCanada081]

Are you saying you got 75000 miles out of 1 set of Crossclimate2 tires?

[@vincentmills4062]

Yes right around 75000 + -1000 miles

[@rj7855]

"Fours and fives" 4 and 5 what, inches, milimeters, ants, grains of sand? .... Units are important

[@DaveInCanada081]

@@vincentmills4062 I agree with running the tire pressure around 36, I do the same and found I get perfect tire wear when I run slightly higher air pressures

[@vincentmills4062]

32nds

[@mda5003]

@@vincentmills4062 And that would have been from 8mm (brand new) to 5mm? Could you really have then got another 75,000 miles running the tread depths down to 2mm (in the UK the legal limit is 1.6mm and maybe we don't get the same extreme weather as you)?

[@raygowan1968]

I just put a set of these on my CRV a couple of days ago. I was amazed with how smooth and quiet they are. I know it is still too early to make a decision but I could easily see these being among my favorite tires I have owned.

[@davidmatthews208]

I have a 2011 CRV. What year is yours?

[@raygowan1968]

@@davidmatthews208 Mine is a 2020.

[@Andreas16375]

I live in sweden and ordered these after seeing all the reviews, The shop mounting them told me "are you really sure you want to mount them with the snow out right now?" I got abit worried but confidently said yes put them on Coming from Goodyear Ultragrip Ice 2 i can't even tell a difference, They just plow right through the snow and ice and we get ALOT of it up here. Plus i get to keep my nice rims on all year round instead of having a second beater set for the winter. Just remains to see how they are in the summer but right now i'm very happy

[@Zeek800]

Good in the Summer as well mine have two Summers on them and now a second Winter as of today ( February 26th ) and I checked the tread depth which is 8/32s of an inch all across the tire. The reason the tire tech questioned your decision to put these on is that in Europe these are considered an All Season tire. In North America they are called an All Weather tire meaning they carry the 3 Peak Mountain Snowflake symbol which is what Winter tires have on their sidewalls. The tread d3sign is so the tread’s grooves actually widen as they wear. Drive under control and you will easily get 75,000 plus of use before 5hey might need to be changed for winter driving in Sweden.

[@Azureecosse]

I am surprised by your Comment I live in Northern Sweden, Cross climates would be useless here in mid winter, I am not even sure if they would be legal as a dedicated Winter tire either, my thoughts are they are good for mild winter driving when its very wet. I agree with your tire shop they would laugh me out the building if I asked for these to be fitted to my car. I will stick with my Nokians . I am guessing you live around Småland where is snows very little.

[@buddysteve5543]

I'm also an Uber/Lyft Driver in Northern California and was looking for some All Terrain or All Season tires that did good in the snow and still had great comfort and low road noise on the highway. I've been using Bridgestone Turanza Quiettrack with 80k mile warranty but they only lasted about 60k miles each time. I'll definitely have to try the chalk test as I just recently learned about that! I was going to go with the Falken Wildpeak AS Trail but after seeing the outstanding reviews on America's Tire website and Tire Rack, I'm once again having a change of heart about which tires to get. Downside about these tires is that it's $1250 for a set of 4 with the Big O' Tire damage warranty.

[@peterurquhart7191]

I had a set of cross climate they done 85k before I changed them ! 👍👍👍

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

Great job

[@michaelgoode9555]

Tyre wear depends on a number of factors including the road surfaces that you drive and your tyre pressures. I keep our CC2's at 2psi over recommendation and have not seen any consumption or performance issues over the previous summer tyres that were fitted to my car from new in the UK. These perform brilliantly in the wet and icy conditions of central England as well as in the warmer summer. Best tyres that I have ever bought.

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

I like the chalk test -- good idea.

[@JasonO-we3qt]

Thanks for doing this video.

[@vpenywise]

Thank you for this video! I live in Europe and here we get a completely different type of tires - even though it's the same brand, the same model name, ours are made of completely different compound and they wouldn't last even half the mileage you're mentioning. Just FYI 🙂

[@Rapscallion2009]

We do - and I don't know how I feel about it. I've noticed from Dashcam videos that it usually doesn't seem to take a lot to make American vehicles enter a slide with huge clouds of white smoke. I wondered why and I suspect it's the tire compounds being far harder.

[@leonardocozza3140]

Hello fromm Italy Why crossclimate sold in Europe should be any different?!

[@vpenywise]

@leonardocozza3140 Generally it's because of the much higher gas prices in Europe, so the emphasis of a tyre should be towards the best possible mileage, rather than longevity. That's one of the reasons anyway. The tyre manufacturers make completely different tyres for the different markets around the world. So watching reviews online could be "misleading" if you don't know it. E.g., the Michelin Crossclimate 2 is certified with 60,000 miles warranty in the US, which is about 100,000km. We don't get any warranty in Europe, let alone a 100k km one 🙂

[@Rapscallion2009]

@@vpenywise I think a harder tyre compound would actually make the rolling resistance less, improving fuel efficiency. The USA seems to expect a far longer life from their tyres. I suspect the USA has less emphasis on grip and cornering performance than euro - Market conditions are different. If you sold euro tyres in the USA they'd be annoyed how quickly they wore out and if you sold USA ones in euro they'd be annoyed at how little grip they offered. It's actually observable in dashcam videos. USA tyres smoke a lot more and are more vocal.

[@itsagoal182]

Compounds are the same.

[@richardhault3149]

I have 30000 on my CC2's. Love the performance in all conditions. They are on a 2019 Toyota highlander fwd v6. Current projection is 70000 miles down to 4/32nds. Highly recommend.

[@doomshallot4203]

what do you think about the new Goodyear Weatherready 2 tires? How do those compare to these crossclimate 2 tires? Thanks!

[@sojourner57]

We bought our set of CC2's in the early spring of 2022, for a 2020 Honda CR-V hybrid, so very comparable vehicle to you AND, we've put 85,000 miles on that set with no issues in 2 1/2 years. I started looking for new tires awhile ago, but am pretty certain the next set will be Michelin CC2's. Thanks.

[@ChazFenton]

That's a smart thing to do with the chalk, thanks, I plan on getting cross climate 2s in the near future. Ty for your reviews 😊

[@NoShadowOfDoubt1]

Nice review Vince , I’m planning to put them on my 2023 RAV4 prime, The tread on the Dunlop as of 20k miles is running light plus slippery

[@MarySummerhill]

Bought a set of these from Costco and had slightly less than 10k miles on them when the sidewall blew out on my left front at 80 mph on the Interstate outside of Columbus, MT. Sidewall had big chunks out of it. Called Costco in Billings to see if they had a tire and they did not. Called AAA for roadside assistance and almost 4 hours later had to end up calling a local towing service to come out and install the spare and put air in it. Limped into the Billings Costco and had to buy a new set of tires as we were 250:miles from home and I didn’t want to chance trying to get that far on a temp spare at 50 mph. Thought the tires were great in ice and snow but question the strength of the sidewall after this. AAA’s roadside people never showed up nor called

[@Flow-rs1qg]

It's better than cheap tires like sentury touring or Arizonian tires

[@znogaragego3421]

Next time, try calling Michelin roadside assistance. It’s included with the purchase of tires.

[@s2_eleven551]

Womp Womp

[@shawnhenderson7268]

If you had a sidewall blowout, you had a nail or screw in the tire, somewhere in the belt, below that blown out section. The tire leaks, but you dont realize it is happening unless you regularly monitor your tire pressures. When the heat builds up from the air pressure being too low, the tire expands and blows out at the weakest point, above the same belt as the hole. I used to work for a tire company, in 8 years I found every puncture, nail, screw, etc, in every tire blowout Ive ever worked on. Of course, if you drove on that tire flat for too long it chews the sidewall up and makes it more difficult to find the cause sometimes.

[@Gratefulwon]

I use them for winter tires on my Bolt EUV. Great tire, but they definitely take more energy than the low rolling resistance OEM tires. Worth it just as winter tires though.

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

After 6k miles gas milage will return to pretire mileage

[@Dan-wg5gq]

Thank you for the update. I also love these tyres. Had some nokian all qethera and road noise and wear. No comparison. Cross climate ll are by far the Best

[@rarelyaccurate6252]

Tire pressure is largely dependent on vehicle weight. Check your door jamb for the recommended pressure for your vehicle.

[@jameskirk5415]

Are these good for california hot summer and wer winter weather? I have been using Michlin defender.

[@TheAgentAssassin]

I have the 1st gen Cross Climate tires. Great tires but little pebbles get stuck in between the grooves. It didn't seem to hurt the tire at all. But I always managed to find a nail or sharp piece of metal in these tires. Two of em got punctures. I guess a bonus is the little rocks act like studs in the snow? Hah Mine went smooth pretty fast though. I guess the 1st gen were much softer.

[@nobodynoone2500]

This is what I am worrying about. I drive on many dirt, gravel, and peagravel roads and concerned these will eat rocks just to spit them out at my underside, fenders and other cars.

[@internetabyss]

I got those on my 2021 RAV4 Prime. Great tires!!!

[@CumBrianFries]

What's the mileage/fuel economy hit with them on?

[@Data-qj7mo]

I believe the center is meant to be slightly higher, if I remember correctly from the engineering explained video.

[@JmjomarRamos]

Did you do tire rotation?

[@vincentmills4062]

Yes every 5k miles front to back

[@robsmith689]

Any issue with the 19" wheel size on the Rav4 Limited's rubbing the wheel wells? Because on mine they did badly on the front when I applied full lock. These tires are even visually far larger than the stock tires.

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

I have 18 and no issues

[@SHEEPeros]

Watched your entire "series" on these tyres. Informative and to the point. Thank you! Question from me: have you considered using the SUV variant? The specs indicate a better load index and rolling resistance (especially XL marked).

[@spartanj2957]

How ofton do you rotate?i run mine at 36 also car plate on door says 35 .

[@vincentmills4062]

Every 5k

[@verynick]

can you rotate on a AWD as well? @@vincentmills4062

[@victorgrasscourt3382]

Can you get Kleber tyres? I have used Michelin CC2’s in the past, but now have set of Kleber Quadraxer 3’s. Kleber is owned by Michelin. You never see the Kleber tyres in the same group test as the Michelins - because they are better. Better ride quality, quieter, but just as effective in the snow plus high aquaplaning resistance and excellent wet grip. They last too.. However they are 30% cheaper than Michelin CC’s.

[@Wised1000]

They are superb in snow. As good as most dedicated snow tires. They are much, much better than any so called all season tire in any winter condition. That's their main forte. In general so called all season tires are OK to good in summer and terrible in winter. The Cross Climate is a very good tire regardless of the season. Other manufacturers have copied them (all weather category is growing) with variable success but the Cross Climate is still the snow king among them. The best description is a dedicated snow tire that you can use all year. Its all in the compound!

[@pjimmbojimmbo1990]

4s and 5s... lots of tread life remaining. The Wear Ribs are still a ways down in the Tread, and in snow, they will wear very slowly

[@Okie-Tom]

I live 1 mile on a gravel road. Should the rock holding ability keep me from buying a set of these? They are sure a different tread pattern than I have ever seen. Thanks for the review. Tom

[@Wised1000]

BTW I love the Comment about x or y brands. I've used most most of the best brands, Michelin, Continental, Bridgestone, Goodyear etc, can, and do, make excellent tires, they also make some less excellent ones. What makes Michelin stand over the rest is balance great performance all around. I've used ultra high performance and snow tires from all these brands for decades and what always brings me back to Michelin is that overall excellence in all tire characteristics. The cross climate is the apex of that philosophy, its not a high performance tire but it's still superb in summer, it's not as good as a WS bkizzak in winter, but its not too far from it. In that it stands where very few other tires on the market exist, its a great tire in any weather condition. Until someone comes up with a tire that can be as good in the summer as a Michelin PS4 in the summer and a Bridgstone WS series in the winter, it will reign supreme. No better flattery than Goodyear's newest all climate tire.....the tread (dont know about the rest of the tire) is a 100% copy of the cross climate.😂

[@mth469]

Which would be better the Defender 2 or CrossClimate 2 for New York weather?

[@Anonymous-ji4sb]

How many miles are on that car?

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

170k at this moment

[@johnbrentford5513]

Michland tires?

[@kohort1]

I'm a bit confused bc you say wet traction is good except for hydroplaning?

[@rusrazbor]

Hello! Do you use these tires in the summer? How do they show themselves in the heat?

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

Yes yearly

[@jilljuberian8651]

I just got these does anyone know if there good in wi ter i live in minnesota alot snow and ice. Did u really get 75000 they have warrenty of 60000 or did u mea. 7 500

[@vincentmills4062]

Yes I got a little over 75000 miles on these tires

[@adamarndt7617]

@@vincentmills4062 Your Rav4 IS a pretty light vehicle, though. I'm sure the folks with 5-6,000 lb EVs won't get 75k out of them.

[@RK-su4hs]

Lexus 200isT 2017. living in California Needs new tires A mechanic recommended Michelin today Do you recommend this tire in particular? Thanks in advance

[@Lucky8s]

Interesting your door said 34 PSI cause mine says 36 PSI. Wonder if it's a hybrid versus gas thing

[@Bigal1069]

Are the climate 2 tires good for 104 degrees weather?

[@gimaru1]

What state or city are you in?

[@fallguy4209]

Wow what do you do to get that mileage

[@bubu4648]

Thank you Vincent

[@calvintran8691]

Everyone sounds like cc2 is the only one to buy, Michelin should get rid of the rest and bang on this?

[@AP-qu8sl]

Would you recommend these for someone in Texas? We don’t have snow. Also, the drop in mpg is temporary?

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

These are a great year round tire and if you get any rain these tires are excellent for not hydroplaning

[@AP-qu8sl]

@@vincentlouisaerialproduction is there a substantial drop in mpg?

[@Flow-kw3gn]

Did you buy a set of CrossClimate 2? I live in Florida and I'm interested in buying CrossClimate 2 from Costco because I need to replace my tires in July.

[@SomKHANSAIYASITH]

in the winter what is the tire pressure set at 36 PSI cross climate 2

[@vincentmills4062]

36 psi It is always set to this

[@spartanj2957]

The manufacturer did a test .They took a new stet and shaved them to 3 /32 and found the ability in snow was slightly better than a new set. Here in the upper Midwest we get a lot of snow and I run them all winter in wet ,dry and heavy snow.left my garage and plowed through 26 inches of med wet snow with all wheel drive no problem. a A couple of days later I got on a country black top road with very smooth compleatly compacted surface. At 40 mph I hit the brakes and to my amazement the car stopped like it was on dry blacktop with out the anti lock brakes not activating at all till I was at 1 maybe 2 mph for a second. They don't let the car slide in some heave slush I was in a day later while passing and changing lanes at 50 mph. They are so much more capable then I ever thought the could be. But this was all done with AWD . I will using M x climate 2 's for ever ,year round too. In heavy standing water had no hydro planning.Wher I did notice HP was during cornering,just for a sec but it was there so when cornering slow it down .As you noticed when fairly worn it could be a prob.

[@vincentmills4062]

Thanks for your review. I hope everyone reads this because I have had little experience in the snow and it sounds like these tires will do the job when needed

[@drivewayy]

You showed 4/32's on the outsides of your tire and 5/32's in the middle of the tire...maybe 36psi is a touch low and 38-39psi will result in more even tread wear for you? I just swapped my tires recently also. Was opposite of you and had les tread in the middle of the tires. 44psi proved too much; even though my chalk test showed otherwise. Coincidentally, I am going to drop to 38-39psi on these new current tires; should result in more even wear. The arbitrary OEM specs recommend 36psi for my vehicle as well. Take care.

[@WolfofLawStreet]

pro tip...when you buy these tires....they come with a 60k warranty....but the warranty is void if you tell them you work for uber and Lyft....so don't tell them that...rip off all your uber and Lyft stickers before u go in...also keep records of you rotating the tires every time you get an oil change (because they will ask you if you did this...not sure they will want records but its good to keep records of it) if you warranty them out before 60k miles then you should get credit towards a new set...happened for me when I warranted my Michelin primacy tires...I got 4 new Michelin Primacy last time for $350 LOL

[@KrishnaBoppana]

how was the noise at 75K miles?

[@Igor_ZG]

Did they become loud?

[@Michael_Lorenson]

Excellent, thanks

[@ritterengine1289]

Are they quiet?

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

Yes indeed very quiet and comfortable ride

[@ritterengine1289]

@@vincentlouisaerialproduction Thanks. I hear mix things in terms of noise so figured I’d ask.

[@sparetire3]

They are pretty quiet, you will appreciate it in rain and snow.

[@allancarvajal1518]

Just turn up the volume of stereo so you won't hear the cc2 noise 😊

[@richscott2483]

I have had Michelin CrossClimate2 on my 2023 Camry XSE 3.5L V6 since day 1. Got rid of the defective and hazardous OEM Bridgestone Turanza EL440s soon after accepting my brand new 2023 Camry XSE V6 with 3 Odometer miles. Only drove on the Turanza EL440 roughly 1/2 mile to the Tire Service Center. Paid $1,192 mount, balance, and sales tax for 4 - 235/40R19 CrossClimate2. I have 7,310 miles on the Camry as of June 2024 as owned it for 18 months now. The CC2s are fantastic tires, the best I've ever had and I have owned 15 vehicles (3 brand new, 3 CPO, and 9 Used) in my 64 years of life as I have been driving for 46 years. One issue with my 2023 Camry XSE V6 has been MPG. I get an average of 16.99MPG which is 9 below the Average 26MPG advertised on the Camry Window Sticker and all other reviews. 22 City/ 26 Avg,/32 Highway. The Toyota Dealership as I have ToyotaCare (2yr/25K) with purchase of the 2023 Camry, claims that my poor MPG is due to the Michelin CrossClimate2 tires. Well, I highly doubt that, I have had rather poor MPG since taking possession of the Camry and consistently reported as so. I also keep records of every Fillup, Mileage, Odometer reading, Cost per Gallon, and total cost per fillup. I am willing to accept that these All-Weather, they're not Snow nor All-Season, may result in a reduction of 1 to 3MPG or possibly 4MPG, but no way in hell 9MPG. There has to be something wrong with the Camry 2GR-FKS 3.5L V6 Engine or the ECM "Computers that calibrates Fuel / AIr mixture for the Fuel Injectors or could be something else. Surely, the CC2s are not the cause of nearly 30 Percent reduction of MPG. I check regularly that the CC2s are 35/36PSI depending on outdoor temps been as low as 33 and high as 38 PSI. Appears driving will heat up the tires so it increases PSI. With 7,310 miles on the Michelin CC2 they are still like new and very minimal tread wear. The pebbles/stones do collect a bit more in the track grooves. I am used to removing them when I see them, habit of U.S. Navy FOD "foreign object damage" walk downs on aircraft carrier flight decks and at Naval Air Station taxi / Runways since spent nearly 26 years in the Navy. Sorry, anyways Toyota and the dealership will avoid, ignore, provide many reasons or excuses, not to repair or diagnose or spend money fixing a problem with a new vehicle until the Basic 3 yr Warranty/ 5 yr Powertrain Warranty expires as to make you pay the $ thousands $ to fix it. I am battling with Toyota that my 2023 Camry XSE V6 has a fuel consumption problem and trying to convince me that the Michelin CC2s are the problem I should buy new tires or get OE Bridgestone Turanza EL440 tires which I got rid of because Toyota is aware Turanza EL440s are quality defective and a hazardous tire. Toyota has a huge contract with Bridgestone and have been using Turanza EL440 for the last 5 or 6 years out of the factory. The point I am making here is Toyota does not care about your life, all Toyota cares about is your $ money. Just like All Insurance Companies, you pay pay pay as it is mandated by law but when it is time to pay out on a claim is like squeezing water out of a rock. Yes! Michelin CC2s should last 60k miles, some people managed 70k to 80K, and one You Tuber Channel person has driven 100K on the CC2s before replacing them. I believe 1 or 2 people out of 10 may not like these tires and will complain. But if 80 percent of the people like the CC2s, chances are you will too. "You can please some of the people some of the time, but you cannot please all the people all of the time."

[@vincentmills4062]

Hey rich make sure tire inflation is correct and I do not recommend the door sticker. I have always set my cc2s to 36psi cold morning tire pressure. Also I have noticed lose of milage in the first 5k miles of these tires do to there stickiness when brand new

[@thecapone45]

That was a lot to read but very informative. I’m not sure what all you’ve learned in the time since, but it seems the loss of MPG is actually quite normal and should level out after driving it for a few thousand miles. Lots of comments report they lost MPG but it pays off in having a tire that lasts longer and it’s safer. Plus once the tire has more wear, the MPG goes back up.

[@jmwylie7751]

How much snow and ice do you have. I want to try them in Texas where we have very little snow and ice. Opinion?

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

Maybe 2 weeks a year. But I really like the anti hydroplaning in wet weather the most

[@donbahn1319]

I have these on my Miata, 25000 miles and they are at 7/32. I rotate the tires every oil change about 3800 miles, and I drive the Miata like I stole it.

[@rog5272]

They're nice tires, but the first thing i noticed was tire noise, these tires are not loud, but annoying buzzing sound. With previous tires, other brand, wasn't very noticeable.

[@richscott2483]

Sorry to hear that. On my 2023 Toyota Camry XSE V6, best tires I've ever had in 46 years of driving and having owned 15 vehicles. I reside in upstate New York, typical winter in the last few years due to climate change and milder winters we are getting about 90 inches of annual snowfall. The CrossClimate2s been on my Camry for 18 months and I've gone through 2 winter seasons. They are quiet, smooth & comfortable ride, handle and grip well on the road. Tire behavior appears to differ depending on Year, Model, and Make of vehicle and that goes with any tire brand you use. As a vehicle ages, all road and tire noise will become more noticeable. If you drive in rural areas, on dirt and gravel roads or roads the are in poor condition, you will hear more noise. The CrossClimate2 tread does pick up more pebbles and stones than other made tires. A stuck pebble caught and stuck in the CC2 tire tread can make noise you are not typical to hearing. I am really amazed how good the Michelin CrossClimate2 tires are but just as no 2 tires are the same, no 2 people are the same, and it goes with automobile, you got a great car and someone with same year, model. make, and trim got a Lemon. Wish you the best and stay safe.

[@shawnhenderson7268]

OEM tires are chosen by the manufacturers for 2 specific reasons, how quiet and smooth they are on new cars, and to get the most fuel economy possible for CAFE standards, they dont care about real world traction. Typically OEM tires have mediocre or less than average traction, have a tread pattern that is made to be quiet, are made of a more soft compound, and dont last very long. Also they are typically expensive to replace them compared to so many better tires, but the OEMs can buy them much cheaper. Almost any upgraded tire choice will get less fuel economy, better traction, and make more noise. My Honda pilots Bridgestone dueler HPs went from around 3/4 new to just above the wear bars in a year with regular rotations and constant upkeep of the proper recommended tire pressure. I just got new Cross Climate 2s a week or so ago, installing them this week.

[@Wised1000]

Tire noise is dependent on road surface. On most surfaces like blacktop and most concrete they are quiet. However on some concrete ribbed surfaces they can be louder than others.

[@Iksrosro]

Sir, how do you run 70,000 miles in one year. You say you do Uber, but 70k mikes in a year?

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

I do roughly 60k per year doing uber / lyft

[@bhshakari]

You drove 75,000 miles in one year??

[@genderlessyoutubefanperson]

That is a lot... I drove that much on average per year, but this is my job, so it is normal. I think he mentioned that he is an Uber driver....it makes sense now. :)

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

About a year and maybe 2 months

[@makoskid]

70H or 70V?

[@dfmpdx]

great reviews. how much did you pay for them? I want some for my CRV

[@vincentmills4062]

225 a tire. but costco has them on sale every once in awhile

[@oscarsuarez4843]

@@vincentmills4062what do you think about X tour a/s from Costco ? Warranty 80k

[@jdc212]

Loss of 3 to 5 mpg when new? That sounds a bit much. I'm curious to hear what actually happens.

[@vincentmills4062]

Yes for the first 5k miles after that you can expect to get what you were getting.. Also inflate tire to 36psi cold

[@jakesnake680]

I have a set on a 2015 Toyota Venza, location Muskoka Ontario. My opinion is for winter driving they are NOT confidence inspiring, and actually a little scary . I pulled them off, and went back to my Blizzaks. I would rate these on par with a good all-season, but I cannot recommend them for any winter driving at all!!, despite what others are saying.

[@richscott2483]

Sorry to hear that. On my 2023 Toyota Camry XSE V6, best tires I've ever had in 46 years of driving and having owned 15 vehicles. I reside in upstate New York, typical winter in the last few years due to climate change and milder winters we are getting about 90 inches of annual snowfall. The CrossClimate2s been on my Camry for 18 months and I've gone through 2 winter seasons. They are quiet, smooth & comfortable ride, handle and grip well on the road. Tire behavior appears to differ depending on Year, Model, and Make of vehicle and that goes with any tire brand you use. As a vehicle ages, all road and tire noise will become more noticeable. My wife's 2022 Honda Civic Touring bought her Michelin X-Ice Snow on 16-inch steel wheels for winter, the Civic OE are 18-inch alloy wheels with Good Year Eagle Sport tires. The only tires I buy are brand name tires from Continental, Michelin, and Pirelli, sometimes GoodYear. Our 2018 Toyota RAV4 Limited AWD had put Pirelli Scorpion Plus 3 on it. Replaced the lousy Toyo Open Country tires. The 1st Pirelli tires I've ever bought was in 1983 for my 1978 Alfa Romeo Veloce Spider were Pirelli P3s. About 30 years ago, Bridgestone were once a decent tire but no more, just like BF Goodrich. Firestone has not been a good tire since before 1980. My long time ago new 1982 Mustang GT 5.0 302 Boss V8 with T-Tops had OE Firestone 721 tires and went bald before 10k miles. Think I went with Goodyear but don't remember however I refuse to buy Firestones ever again. I won't ever buy Asian made tires. Toyo or Toyota are awful. Because of the way automobiles are made today, putting chains on your tire is one of the worst things you can do, tendancy to break or come apart and damage the car body panels. Better off with studded tires but they too damage the road surface which costs the county and state money.

[@Wised1000]

Mmm..... I live in northern WI, and we get +100 in of snow every year. Cross climates are as good as LM Blizzaks in all winter conditions. WS Blizzaks have better ice traction but they are horrible in every other way. They handle horribly, tramline, they are terrible on wet and dry roads, cannot be used in summer and have a short life, particularly if you drive them in above freezing temps. Unless most of your driving is on compacted snow or ice roads, WS blizzak is a horrible tire. A single trick pony. So, unless you live in the tundra, the snow chops of the cross climate are more than plenty for any winter condition.

[@pabpabpabpabpabpabpabpabpa1942]

tires should not be stacked, might cause issue when in use

[@victorsaleeb5632]

Are these tires good for fuel consumption?

[@dansmith5151]

AAHH them ROCKS !!!! in UK we call them pebbles i.e. tiny stones or shingle,, ha ! keep up the great vids bud.

[@Ctacici4ek]

When I installed these tires my gas mileage increased by 5 miles per gallon.

[@cristianmarcoff]

75000 miles?????wow…. I think 7500 ….how many miles does your car have?

[@vincentmills4062]

I currently have 197000 miles on my 21 Rav4 Hybrid

[@quarantainment293]

75k in one year?!!!

[@JIBMONEY]

Bro, now that is a strong dope super fly clean garage you got going there. I really like the cracks in the garage floor for extra video flavor. I think sweeping your garage would make your videos more clean room friendly. As for the tires, would they go all summer in that condition? I like the way you show the new tires in the background. Steak and Lobster eating billionaire eating JIBMONEY out.

[@vincentmills4062]

Yes they go all summer in that condition

[@Backwardlooking]

👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@JamesBond-hy4kv]

I don’t like the lack of grip in the wet.

[@Wised1000]

😂 lack of grip in the wet?

[@RobustArid379]

Did you say 75 k miles on the tires with out replacing it, i not getting into your car anymore

[@stevemartin3601]

classic example of the dangers of allowing every nitwit to post youtube videos.

[@dado500]

Nemoguće. Imam iste gume na Ford cmax 1.0 2013.godina i jedva sam napravio 40000 km. Isto su ovako potrošene. S tim da zadnjih 10000 km su gotovo neupotrebljive. Proklizavaju na suhom. Guma ne vrijedi novac. Sad gledam nešto drugo. Tipa Dunlop koji je puno jeftiniji.

[@vincentmills4062]

Yes that review was at 75000 miles. That is the truth. You must not have had proper tire inflation or miss mounted tires

[@dado500]

@@vincentmills4062 uvijek sam održavao aute kvalitetno. Imam sustav koji služi za pritisak guma. Moje je iskustvo 41 000 km i za smeće su. Potrošene do graničnika. Kako sam rekao ,zadnjih 10 toliko loše se ponašaju da je to užas. Malo mi je čudno da ste uspjeli napraviti s težim autom toliko km a ja s puno lakšim toliko manje? Nikad više tu gumu neću kupiti. Precijenjena i loše kvalitete. Još jedna stvar, ona nova dolazi s 8mm profila. Kad dođe do 4 više se ne smije voziti zakonski po snijegu. Znači,polu istrošena je nelegalna.

[@miselmarkovic4189]

​@@dado500koju onda gumu preporučuješ allseason?lp

[@dado500]

@@miselmarkovic4189 nemam preporuku. Michelin je najskuplji i neću ga kupovati više. Probati ću Pirelli All season 3. Ne govorim da su bolji ali su 25 posto jeftiniji

[@TheRalf9999]

Clean your garage 😂

[@saitamataipei9586]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@jonathan6296]

I have the Michelin CrossClimate "1" and I will NEVER buy Michelin ever again.

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

Ok. But why? please share your negative thoughts with everyone

[@jonathan6296]

@@vincentlouisaerialproduction I'll try to keep it short and excuse my knowledge of English. I drive probably 15'000km per year. Mainly city driving. The tread edges tore off in a matter of a month. Meaning, where you have a sharp 90 degrees turn on the the pattern towards the tire, it is ripped off. Driving on wet is very slippery. Where I live the winter is "meh", it's mostly wet so big con here! The tires have a strange relation with water overall. Once I left the car in an airport underground parking for 2 weeks. It was really humid and the floor was quite wet. For 2 days after I picked up the car the spots where the tires were touching the ground were very stiff and hard. You would hear the noise they made when the previously wet sports would hit the ground. Every time the tires stand in water this happens and it goes away quicker or slower depending on how long it was standing in water. One or two of the 4 tires have permanently harder spot on the tread, at least that's what I think it is. You can hear it, you can feel it in the steering wheel and pedals but not enough to have them returned. The company I bought them in tolled me that and I quote "you are using the tires wrong". I was so dumbfounded I didn't know how to respond! All the tires are balanced and the steering wheel is not "flying" around, it's just slightly vibrating in that one spot. Also I have the same issue as you mentioned, rock picking like crazy ... My main issue is that this is not premium quality tires but you sure pay premium and with so many competitors there is just no point trying Michelin again.

[@SR-0211]

I have them and I will buy again.

[@jonathan6296]

@@SR-0211 Ok, I had bad experience with them and will never buy Michelin ever again. Do you know why my description of the problem is gone? I wrote why they are bad but I can't see that anymore.

[@EdKrisiak]

ok makes sense 🤣😂

[@ervlichterman4714]

Eliminate the “ahs” and “ums”.

[@iceman9426]

Lie.. there is NO way this guy is checking his tire pressure every morning. Unless he has OCD. I'm just worried about being at work on time and that I have a mug of coffee. I can't stand liers..

[@vincentmills4062]

Hello everyone just wanted to add this video from another reviewer I found on you tube . This gentlemen was running these tires on straight up ice. Great review kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5PIkKWoq56Bqsksi=476qTtoTw0Cr042S

[@stefank7144]

I just put Michelin defender 275-65-18 and I live them, cost little more but Michelin is the way to go

[@Jeo-What]

Thanks for the review and these tires are excellent from -40F/-40C to 104F/40C so far for the last 3 years and 9 months even on freezing rain, blizzard or unplowed 2 feet of snow with my FWD HEV or a 20 years old minivan. Interesting the way you test the evenness and I am going to give it a try. Regarding cold tire pressure, I thought it should been measured in outdoor condition (what if the car is in a heated garage!): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_inflation_pressure#:~:text=Recommended%20cold%20inflation%20pressure%20is,when%20not%20warmed%20by%20driving.

[@vincentmills4062]

heated garage would change the outcome

[@Jeo-What]

@@vincentmills4062 I guess it depends on the individual locations as my unheated garage vs outdoor may have 2 to 25° differences during the winter time since some heat still radiates through the garage wall from the house and in reverse during the summertime. I tried the even test yesterday and everything was evenly throughout multiple areas of the tires. Thank you for the suggestions and the review.

[@lPHOENIXZEROl]

I got my 2023 XSE and replaced the OEM tires with CC2s the next day, would've been the same day had I been able to get in but the place I bought them from closed earlier on Wednesdays.

[@mrtyreus0]

Do you rotate your tires?

[@vincentlouisaerialproduction]

Yes every 5k miles once a month