Michigan QB J.J. McCarthy Film Breakdown

Bobby uses All22 Film to analyze and breakdown Michigan QB J.J. McCarthy's game tape.
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[@Danny2Zay]

nearly a 37 minute breakdown. your work never goes unnoticed Bobbert

[@jadenx9225]

Bobby and the Talkin Giants team are the real mvps. I don’t watch a lot of college ball so yall videos come in clutch during draft szn. Giants may be stinky but our fanbase is elite!

[@TheSteveKinney]

I just LOVE how much time to throw all of these college qb’s always have 😂

[@MountPleasant171]

After recent knowledge though, I still think JJ is that dude. He’s still only twenty.

[@thewillofd4417]

This is the first video of yours I’ve watched and I’m only a few minutes in and I just have to say there’s something oddly satisfying about listening and watching you breakdown film.

[@TalkinGiants]

Appreciate that!

[@fardrives]

The throw thats your favorite was insane, and I noticed it in the beginning of the video before you mentioned it.. i was like, holy f* that was a mans throw

[@donaldstewart2964]

great breakdown, thanks Bobby

[@H5000-zb2rw]

As I've said before, as a baseball, football, basketball and hockey fan, the "OLINE REPORT" is one of best football analysis on the internet, along with the Andrew Thomas report, because you can benchmark what a good OLINE should be, anyways this objective analysis of JJ McCarthy was outstanding, now you get some insight into his strength and weaknesses!

[@zakeejones-rumph2055]

Bro this film session is a pure indicator that JJ is a PERFECT FIT in Dabolls offense I clearly see why they are so interested in him the Giants and Michigan have a very similar offense

[@redyeti1423]

Been waiting for this 👀

[@CarreraTrackOntheFloor]

Nice breakdown.

[@blazinpyromaniac]

Taking him over a WR like Malik Nabers or Rome Odunze will be a big mistake

[@cooldude7821]

Maybe, maybe not.

[@ERizzo5]

What if drake Maye falls? He fuckin sucks!!! All these QB’s have “potential”. I hate his tape. It’s awful

[@zakeejones-rumph2055]

Show me a team that has taken a receiver in the top 10 that has won a Super Bowl in the past 20 years ? The Bucs with Mike Evans? That was because they signed Brady ….. you guys are hell bent on drafting a receiver at 6 in a draft full of receivers and I’m trying to figure out why

[@FantasySportsZen]

Half of that statement is true. Kinda.

[@williamdowns1917]

Great job, LOVE the detailed analysis. I see a lot of good with JJ, but can he improve on the bad? That's the question.

[@gwat34]

Already has. He worked on the negatives discussed all offseason and showed great loft on deep balls and layering on intermediate

[@farriskhan2352]

JJ has always been at the top or NFL draft boards. It is just that "Media Experts" have not been paying attention until the last 4 weeks.

[@aserodriguez1425]

No he wasn't!! I'm fact it was the exact opposite and He was always considered a day two pick, up until lately and people are starting to see why. Harbaugh had an agenda for him going earlier he's sitting there at #5 and it makes his pick significantly more valuable if 4 qbs go first then 5 becomes the defacto 1st overall pick since you get to pick any of the best players available from any position. There were already 3 QBs taken 1,2,3 on everybody's boards but you add JJ and it becomes 4 and chargers have the 5th. Also there are many articles and even "the media" is starting to catch on to what's going on, Harbaugh was pumping JJ up all over the place for that reason and can they can trace around the time where JJ started going up boards to when Harbaugh started publicly and privately telling everybody and anybody who would listen how great jj was and how he's the clear best QB in the draft and how there was no doubt he's the best QB he had ever had. When people were asked why they thought JJ was going to go early or why he should go early and how they started hearing that everybody noticed that it all tied back to Harbaugh

[@farriskhan2352]

@@aserodriguez1425 Reminder: "Media Draft Experts" are NOT the same as actual NFL GMs. If they were, they would 5-20x their salary to be GMs. GMs have had JJ on their radar for at least 2 years. It is good to NOT get hoodwinked into thinking a player is "moving up", when all that happened is that the "experts" did not pay attention to that player until that last 3 weeks.

[@brettalbrecht696]

​@aserodriguez1425 oof this take didn't hold up sense he dropped to 10. No need for him to amp him up when he dropped right into the vikings hands

[@farriskhan2352]

@@brettalbrecht696 Media “draft experts” had him rated way lower than 10… about 2 months ago. Absolutely held up.

[@gwat34]

JJ spent the offseason leading to the pro day on the tough plays you are talking about. Both this the fades and intermediate timing stuff like tge deep out. He hit 58 of the 60 passes too. So, he knows were he is weak and will work extremely hard on correcting it. As far as the reading the safties on the levels and other concepts, i think that will come as well. He was a 20 year old QB who didnt get all that much reps.

[@michaelwillis9868]

Really enjoyed that film study and analysis. JJ seems to make a lot of the mistakes DJ makes and similar in general with the athleticism. The balls in the dirt on outs and into the bench on the deeper sideline throws seems all too familiar also.

[@Skimasksovertheblindeyes]

Maybe I was underrating this guy

[@zakeejones-rumph2055]

Roman Wilson is GOING TO EAT in the slot in the nfl he’s very reliable

[@markdeming8900]

During his pro day did he throw the deep ball well. How are people missing his problem with the deep ball.

[@petewinans169]

I’m a huge Wolverine’s fan I’ve seen him make throws to sidelines in places where only the receiver can catch it he’d rather take incompletion than interception but Bobby you always say he’s inaccurate to sideline I don’t get I watched every game the last two years he can throw to the sideline with great velocity I think what he needs to adjust is the speed of the ball on certain throws and the trajectory with certain routes

[@petewinans169]

And he’s worthy of a top 10

[@mekhibutler2]

JJ has potential to be the 2nd best QB in the class. He’s better than Maye

[@fullofmuscledownunde]

He’s already better than Maye most agree with that. Maye just has a higher ceiling…Blake bortles also has a higher ceiling lol

[@davidbresson8865]

Take a look at his 2022 deep balls. All season he was overthrowing his receivers who were wide open deep, and getting it closer and closer but not completing them. He was having them stretch out and hit them in the fingers, but just a shade out of reach. Then in the Ohio State game he completed some huge deep balls against cover 0 because he started underthrowing them so the receiver could adjust. I think that's what was going on here - it was a coaching point he adopted and he probably didn't work on it much because it just wasn't a big part of Michigan's game in 2023.

[@fredwilliams7551]

i always luved JJ my biggest concern is this kids had the cleanest pocket in the history of football it shows the key advantage of an elite o line but will he improve in the nfl when his pocket will never look like what he had in college

[@gwat34]

Just not true. The OL was a step down this year, particularly in pass pro. In this very video he highlights several plays he is either standing in there making a throw about to be hit or needing to escape the pocket. Hell they had to abandon the pass game in PSU because the tackles were getting beat instantly.

[@aserodriguez1425]

Facts , he's a second day guy, only reason he went up boards of because of Harbaugh trying to make him go early because it makes his pick at 5 more valuable

[@jona.scholt4362]

The only reason he went up was because Harbaugh hyped him up? There is no way you seriously believe just because Harbaugh says one thing that all of the sudden the scouts and GMs all change their opinions. That's absolutely crazy. He's shooting up boards because he's good. He's got tools and he's 5 years younger than Nix and 4 years younger than Penix. Just imagine if he got to play in college when he was 24 or 25 instead of 20. He'd look even better than he already does.

[@mr.bojiggity4240]

@jona.scholt4362 JJ is a decent QB currently. Nothing is stopping him from staying another season and polishing up his “tools” to his advantage as Nix and Penix took. He is deciding to leave early. JJ will be thrown in a position where he won’t get to develop truly and these inadequacies will prevail. He is def a 2nd day guy.

[@jona.scholt4362]

@@mr.bojiggity4240 What are "these inadequacies"? I'm also curious if you agree with the original OP that he's only going to be picked in the first round because Harbaugh is hyping him up.

[@mr.bojiggity4240]

@jona.scholt4362 I personally don’t agree fully with OP, but to a degree Harbaugh is/was the only one initially hyping him. JJ had questions going into early draft talk. Speaking strictly as a passer. From my observations he struggles to read a defense, and God forbid it’s disguised. He is inconsistent in his throws. And you can see he is not asked to make progression reads but is told who to throw to. Leading to him staring down targets. If the first two reads aren’t there he’s running.(which yes you want that out of a QB) however he isn’t thoroughly tested on this because he was overshadowed by a run game. Admittedly no one knows what he can fully do due to the scheme. But in games where he is relied on to win with his arm he can’t and the run game is leaned on heavily. That’s just some of what stands out to me. I’m not saying he is not worth drafting but he certainly is not an early first rounder. Again I believe if he stayed another year to polish and refine, there would be almost no questions around him. In short he is shooting himself cause he’s deciding to leave early. 2022 annd 2023 isn’t enough to solidify him. But good thing I’m not getting paid for my opinion.

[@brettalbrecht696]

​@mr.bojiggity4240 yeah this didn't age well. He's going to a team where he can sit for a year and has a fully furnished offense just waiting for him. He went a little high but thats what happens in a heavy qb league now.

[@Knitty610]

Bobby but how would these guys look behind Giants Oline.. that's what you're missing

[@Kingandrew900]

I think JJ is underrated. only 1 loss in whole college career. 24-1 i think. Cant wait to see how well he does in the NFL

[@jona.scholt4362]

27-1. Best QB win percentage in the NCAA since the mid 50s. That's pretty insane.

[@hallmonitorlizard1694]

Hey Bobby, for the big throw against Ohio State, wouldn’t it have been better for McCarthy to loft it into the back of he end zone instead of whizzing it by the defenders head? Or is there something I’m missing? The throw itself was obviously impressive, but was it the wrong decision, a result of a lack of touch, or something else?

[@lebrinjims3580]

From the point JJ releases the ball, he doesn’t know for sure that the single high safety won’t begin to rotate towards Wilson at that moment. Lofting that could be picked easier than the guy whose eyes he was reading

[@lebrinjims3580]

I guess you probably meant to the right side of the endzone. That might work, but it’s more difficult to hit in stride, so if he saw the guy’s eyes and trusts his spot throw, it’s no issue

[@kingja1988]

JJ has velocity the arm strength the pocket presidents the only knock I hear ppl say JJ is that doesn’t have enough touch on his passes

[@jessemontgomery8987]

Get him a good qb coach and let him sit a year behind a vet. He is still young and probably will need a ton of help in the nfl but he can be a stud

[@amachtinger]

What you don't see in his tape is having to make a decision in 2.2 seconds. That's why it's so difficult to predict what he'll be in the pros. Nobody at his feet forcing him to move prior to his receivers cuts. I sincerely hope we stick with DJ and see what he can do with a new "O" line and more time.

[@cooldude7821]

Don't cry in 2025 when the giants are stuck paying DJ 42 mil when he's no longer on the team.

[@zakeejones-rumph2055]

Stick with a qb with a bad neck coming off an acl who’s never played a full season l? What GM in their sensible mind would stick with that ? You guys are completely over looking his health

[@mrjackpotz]

I'm team JJ

[@JOB1925pk]

LOL...Giants don't have a QB, JJ's available and they pick a receiver of which they have no one to throw to him...brilliant strategy

[@ThaBigfight101]

I would still take him at 6. No brainer

[@j.r.3945]

No brain*

[@nickbavas5864]

@@j.r.3945you sound like you have JJ derangement syndrome

[@lilsleeps6209]

If you were in the position to take McCarthy later in the draft, whats the earliest you would take him?

[@hotsauce717]

3rd round

[@j.r.3945]

Mid second

[@sportsguy15]

I would not pick him. I am looking for a top level QB.

[@lilsleeps6209]

@@sportsguy15 you wouldn’t pick him in the 7th round?

[@zograf4572]

At 6

[@tdmidas289]

I'm ready to see him hand tf outta that ball. Edit: oh shit I wouldn't mind jj but at 6 I just don't know

[@MD-es3rv]

I like JJ.. I said what I said. JJ, Maye, Naber or MHJ and I'm happy

[@cooldude7821]

Put some base in your voice & say that $h!t with yo chest out.

[@bark2650]

I don’t wanna trade up for him

[@miketoonice]

future Giant

[@j.r.3945]

Please no

[@nickbavas5864]

Wtf do you know more than the coaches and scouts ? If he gets picked so be it. And I root for DJ

[@j.r.3945]

@@nickbavas5864 nobody asked

[@fullofmuscledownunde]

*commander

[@jordanfoley8673]

Skol

[@Im-wd6tx]

Kirk Cousins 2.0 which is not a insult or a bad thing, he can be very productive in the right system but it must be with the right people around him and who knows maybe it is Coach Daboll and Shea Tierney working closely with him and then them loading up the talent around him to make it work. He is not a Carry A Team type of QB though

[@cooldude7821]

If you're waiting for a carry the team type of QB. I hope you're really young & really patient.

[@jessemontgomery8987]

I think the vikings. Have Jones to hand the ball off too and he really helped love out. also with wrs like Jefferson and Addison. A te like hockenson. He has a real chance at success with that offense. Or maybe sit him behind kirk cousins. Like the love and Rodgers situation with all those weapons in Atlanta.

[@NYGSucksButDex_]

So he’s like a young Jared Goff? I wouldn’t mind that, also I believe that he struggles with deep sideline throws simply because Michigan’s offense didn’t emphasize an air attack so I bet he never had a reason to learn to put touch on deep passes consistently🤷🏽

[@teejarado5543]

Bobby showed that JJ missed seeing a lot of open receivers and seemed locked on his first read. What if he's just a young Daniel Jones?

[@NYGSucksButDex_]

@@teejarado5543 Maybe, the passing up deep passes scares me (Reminds me a lot of Jones). If there was any QB I’d want that I think was realistically available, it’s Maye.

[@fynetuneyrgf]

IDK, maybe if we traded back towards the end of the first. I still feel like he is a day 2 guy, plus how is he going to act with 2-3 seconds and not 3-5 seconds as is shown. If drafted he very much might be the next DJ, (ruined rookie QB) as NYGs have such a stale offense RN and lower mid tier at best O line. I very much feel like NYGs should grab an early WR in the first, then maybe a guard or QB in the second. NY simply doesn’t have an offense that can support a rookie QBs growth, they should wait and build. I’m getting sick of this rookie QB hype for a team that can not support one, wait a year to play out DJs 2nd contract year and build the team.

[@cooldude7821]

Who said he's starting day 1.

[@ERizzo5]

@@cooldude7821So the Texans should’ve waited until they had a team before they drafted CJ Stroud? I hate this thinking that a team has to be the perfect situation before you grab your QB. The Texans were awful the year prior! Maybe DJ just fucking sucks! You ever think about that?! What are we even talking about here! Some fans thinking man, Jesus Christ!

[@cooldude7821]

@@ERizzo5 DJ definitely sucks. I think the giants 100 percent are drafting a QB somewhere in this draft. Don't think he'll be starting right away. But may do so later on in the year or to start the 2025 season.

[@ERizzo5]

@@cooldude7821 meant to reply to the original poster. My bad

[@zograf4572]

Me want...

[@enriquetriana3519]

Holy dainel jones all over again no thank you

[@cooldude7821]

JJ=winner. DJ=Loser.

[@fullofmuscledownunde]

Jones has the slowest release and does not have that kind of velocity. Drake Maye has those same awful mechanics. I’m a Washington fan btw. I want JJ

[@owendonahue7857]

The hate this guy gets is so unreal, he’s a winner! Yes he needs to improve on some things I agree 100% but if we draft him he’s not starting this year unless the season goes to shit and it’s like week 10. Let him sit a year and have coach work with him. Josh Allen was kinda a wildcard of his draft class and Brian did great thing with him. I’m not saying trade up for the guy but if we falls take him. You can’t go into the season with an injury prone DJ, drew lock and Tommy. This WR class is deep so maybe you don’t get a top guy but u can still get a stud in the second round. Regardless if we draft JJ or not I hope this kid kills it in the nfl just bc he gets some much unnecessary hate

[@bulletboy4111]

He would absolutely start if we draft him at 6. This isn't even a question.

[@owendonahue7857]

@@bulletboy4111 id hope not, they are paying a guy $40 mill to ride the bench for a rookie would be a little wild. It would also look bad on ownership and the coaching staff that has said DJ is going to start week one IF healthy. I’d hope they would let him develop for a year to work on his weak points. Patrick sat for a year and Love sat for 3. Not saying he’s going to be that level but I’d argue that helped their individual development.

[@cooldude7821]

​​@@owendonahue7857 No way JJ or whichever QB we draft is starting day 1. Definitely not happening.

[@owendonahue7857]

@@cooldude7821 I’d agree, I’d hope they would sit for a year

[@cooldude7821]

​@@owendonahue7857 When Shurmur started DJ 2 games into his rookie year. Basically self preservation to try & save his own job. I understand why he did it because Eli was already cooked. But it was the wrong move for DJ & the Giants. Can't make the same mistake again unless the rookie is 100 percent ready. Which most QB's usually aren't.

[@anthonyv3732]

Tank till we can go all-in and draft Arch Manning

[@Hauler24]

I just don't see it with him. He will get moved from the pocket every time if we decide to go with him. I don't think he is a generational talent we need at 6. Nabers or trade back for ability to get more draft capital this year and next.

[@Hauler24]

After watching this the negatives far out weigh the positives. At 6 he will just be a slightly better version of Daniel Jones. No touch on deep balls and with our line in flux if he has to start his first year.... It's bad. I truly don't think we will go QB. With Lock and DJ I feel we will wait and get a better piece to put together a better season. I don't think the Maras are going to take another abysmal season and the Front Office and Coach know that.

[@gwat34]

He worked on most of the issues and highlighted this at his proday. JJ is the youngest QB in the draft and has improved greatly each year at UM. He will continue to do so.

[@gwat34]

JJ worked on all that this whole offseason and showed great improvement. He is the youngest QB in the draft and improved every year at UM. It will continue. But I think he will go before 6.

[@Hauler24]

@@gwat34 He's not got what we need. We have the worst O line in football and the last thing we need is a young QB to get phantom rush syndrome and end up like Daniel Jones. I'd rather see if Drew Lock can pan out this year and add quality pieces elsewhere and go after QB next.

[@andrewchristopher7138]

Hi

[@j.r.3945]

He’s not a first round talent man… I legit might stop being a fan if they draft him at 6. Please Minnesota save us from drafting this guy

[@farriskhan2352]

Prediction: If they draft him, you will have his jersey one year from today.

[@j.r.3945]

@@farriskhan2352 my brother I’ve only ever had like 3 jerseys and his would most definitely not be one of them😭 if he wins roty then I’ll buy the both of us his jersey

[@cooldude7821]

​@@j.r.3945 Why put off til tomorrow what you can do today.

[@j.r.3945]

@@cooldude7821 cuz im lazy

[@cooldude7821]

@@j.r.3945 I have quite a few other words that come to mind besides Lazy.

[@smercxz]

Ppl are really talking themselves into this dumb shit just because they’re trying to brace themselves to accept whoever the giants take 😂😂😂 if they take JJ giants are truly the shittiest franchise in the lg

[@jimleinonen7096]

You are putting too much stock on film versus looking at the whole picture. He is a winner like Tom Brady and Magic Johnson. Remember Jeff George? Did he ever win anything ..give me J.J.

[@TalkinGiants]

He reminds me more of Bill Russell

[@marcosdiaz8187]

The thing is in the nfl his pockets won't be the same all the time in the world an still doesn't have the touch lol ok

[@ChinChecker22]

All those good throws were from pretty clean pockets. How is he under pressure main ? For me

[@farriskhan2352]

Watch his lateral one handed catch and throw in the Alabama game. 99.9% of college QBs would not be able to make that play. Required athleticism, smarts, and willingness to get punished by a lineman in exchange for a huge positive play. They absolutely needed that play because that game went to OT.

[@kyllerkill]

Jj is the best qb in this draft. May and Daniel’s are both busts. Williams only plays playground ball. He will end up being a top 5 qb in the league. I know that’s just my opinion. But I do believe in 5 years and people look back on this draft he’ll be considered the best qb that came out of it. As long as he doesn’t go to a garbage team. That’s what ruins AB’s more than their own skill set. Patriots will ruin whomever they draft. Same with redskins. I believe Chicago also. Minnesota is the place all the qb’s want to go. If jj goes to them he’ll be the first qb in this class to win a superbowl.

[@natesaracino1746]

Where’s the rome film break down?

[@dmizzel13]

Easy top 10 pick and would be justified at 6. Probably the youngest QB in the draft with one of the strongest arms with untapped potential. Also a proven winner which seems to get overlooked in this process. Put him with Daboll he will become a great QB at the next level.

[@j.r.3945]

Drake maye is younger than him with a significantly stronger arm and he’s not a proven winner he was just on a great team he didn’t have to do much

[@dmizzel13]

@@j.r.3945 I’ve never seen anyone miss on more information than you. They are the same age but Maye was born in August of 2002 and JJ was born in January of 2003. JJ threw the second hardest recorded throw at the combine behind Milton. Also JJ only lost like 4 games SINCE highschool. That sounds like a winner to me. Please don’t speak if your facts aren’t correct

[@j.r.3945]

@@dmizzel13 oh my bad they’re the same age oops and who cares about that dumb combine drill it literally shows next to nothing watch the tape drake maye can throw bombs he doesn’t have Josh Allen’s arm but he’s not far off. Jj just can’t do that. Not that he has a bad arm but it’s definitely not stronger than Mayes arm. And genuinely do not care about high school most guys in the league dominated in high school. As for college he just so happened to be on the best team in college last year they ran the ball on everyone and he didn’t even have to do much of anything. And half of what he did do was more because of Roman wilson than jj. There are so many things he does that he just couldn’t get away with in the nfl especially not on a giants team that doesn’t have much around him. And forget his processing like people rag on Drake maye being a slow processor which just isn’t true he just has more reads than most people jj missed reads kind of often given how little he actually threw the ball. The only thing I got wrong is jj and maye are the same age wow massive difference

[@dmizzel13]

@@j.r.3945 lol you came to correct what I said about JJ with false information. Drake Maye is a great prospect but Drake Maye also had a down year compared to the reason why he even got on the radars for the draft. Drake Maye showed more regression from last season to this season than JJ did as well. Yes I understand that people don’t care about highschool and what they did but that’s also apart of the problem. You will pass up on a winner because you want the guy that puts up better numbers (also the guy who couldn’t lead them to anything more than 9 wins in a season in a weak conference when he was supposed to be the number 1 or 2 guy coming into the season. For crying out loud I watched Michael Penix Jr be a horrible QB in the big 10 for years until he found the right offensive fit that allowed him to show off his skill set.

[@H5000-zb2rw]

@@dmizzel13 Do you know how many pitchers have thrown 98mph fast balls, and have no control over the pitch, or couldn't throw a curve or slider. Point being, throwing the hardest as QB, is probably 5th to 7th on preferable QB stats!

[@aserodriguez1425]

JJ was always considered a day two pick, possibly day 3 up until mid recently and people are starting to see why. Harbaugh had an agenda for him going earlier he's sitting there at #5 and it makes his pick significantly more valuable if 4 qbs go first. If 4qbs go 1,2,3,4 then 5 becomes the defacto 1st overall pick since you get to pick any of the best players available from ANY AND EVERY OTHER position. There were already 3 QBs taken 1st 2nd and 3rd overall on everybody's boards so all you have to to is make sure everyone adds JJ and it becomes 4 and Guess who has the 5th pick? Yes Harbaughs chargers have the 5th pick. Ain't that a coincidence. Also there are many articles and even "the media" is starting to catch on to what's going on, Harbaugh was pumping JJ up all over the place for that very reason and there was a correlation from the time where JJ started going up boards to when Harbaugh started publicly and privately telling everybody and anybody who would listen about how great JJ was and how he's clearly the best QB in the draft and how there was no doubt he's the best QB he had ever had and allkinds of crazy comments. When people were asked for more substantial reasons why they thought JJ was going to go early or why he should go early and more importantly how they started hearing about that and everybody started to notice that it all traced back to Harbaugh. His schemes seem to be working but to know if IT worked we have to wait until draft night

[@jimleinonen7096]

Wrong. I do not agree. Why would Harbaugh say stuff that would make him look bad. Coach was an NFL qb. He said it all season. I guess you weren't listening.

[@srbarry]

What you don’t see in his tape is the natural Leadership, Maturity, Charisma, Coolness, and Intelligence, and in the long run, those things make or break quarterbacks, especially in NYC. If the Giants pick this guy, a big part of it will be their positive assessment of these intangibles, and we are just going to have to trust that Daboll really likes the mental makeup. He’s got the arm talent, the decisiveness, pocket awareness, athleticism, and scramble ability. These are the things you can’t easily fix so it’s a big deal that these traits are there. For someone so young, I don’t see anything that Daboll can’t fix pretty easily. A lot of the inaccurate throws seem to relate to his hips rotating a bit much at release since he’s trying to use his lower body a bit too much to power the ball, but that’s easy to fix. Also, what I see in most of the ‘bad’ reads, is that he’s getting stuck on the designated first option and is not taking the more open second option or check down, again, easy to fix. I don’t see any significantly better options at QB in the ‘25 draft. If JJ waited till next year, he’d most likely be QB1. I can’t see a better option for the Giants to draft this year or next since the chances of us trading up to the top three this year is about zero. Schoen knows that the absolute most important part of a rebuild is a drafted QB, that frees up tons of money to get, for example, the WR1 we may pass on this year. It’s NOT that he’s worried about getting fired, it’s that he knows the importance of a drafting a QB in a build. It’s gotta be a high quality QB, but it doesn’t have to be a perfect one. For heck sake, we won a Super Bowl with Hostetler. And don’t underestimate the Meditation. Meditation is mind training, and over time it makes your brain just work better. You’re less likely to get overwhelmed by emotion, you process better, and you can handle stress and pressure much better. It’s a big deal. And as for the wanting ‘more’ more in five or six years, that can come from the intangibles developing. If this guy is the leader and the winner that folks say he is, that mental strength is more valuable than anything. Just look at Prescott or Jackson, unbelievable traits but something’s lacking in the intangibles and it shows in the big games. That what makes picking a QB so hard, so hopefully Daboll makes the correct choice. BTW, if we take this guy, Wandell is gonna have a huge 2025 when JJ hits his stride.

[@bulletboy4111]

Are you JJs dad or something? Good lord lol

[@srbarry]

Very helpful comment, thanks for contributing to the conversation in such a constructive way. @@bulletboy4111

[@bulletboy4111]

I don't need to. Bobby does the job for me lol

[@cooldude7821]

​@@srbarry He's obviously mindless & doesn't know anything so he goes off of what everyone else says. Blind leading the blind.

[@Alex1552project]

Hope he doesn’t go to the Giants..they’ll ruin him

[@maaliemaal1373]

His tape definitely doesn’t show a top ten or 1st rounder!! A couple of good throws in a few games is ridiculous. Also, didn’t see Maryland on here but his Maryland and Penn State games are pathetic

[@farriskhan2352]

Perhaps you are unaware that he had a leg injury and played through it. He could not walk between those two games. Michigan hid it well because they still needed him to have the threat of passing to keep the run game going.

[@maaliemaal1373]

@@farriskhan2352 👀👀👀 oh that’s why he handed the ball off soo much all year 🙏 that explains his inaccuracy as well, thanks for clearing that up.

[@farriskhan2352]

@@maaliemaal1373 I am making a comment about those two games specifically. He had a 72.3% pass completion percentage for the year. He played in 15 games and in 13 of them, he did NOT throw an INT. He is clearly very accurate passer that did not make many mistakes.

[@maaliemaal1373]

@@farriskhan2352 Explain his passing yards per game then….

[@maaliemaal1373]

@@farriskhan2352 Listen this sounds like someone defending Daniel Jones playoff season lol..your argument is ironically the same….let me guess you don’t like DJ though🧐

[@KC_Smooth]

McCarthy has talent, but it seems like Drake Maye is a tier above him when it comes to talent.

[@matthewmanzi9504]

I would take JJ over Maye as I’m not sold on Maye fixing his poor footwork and accuracy issues. It can happen but it’s such a risk.

[@jfitness432]

This guy will not be a good qb in the NFL

[@cooldude7821]

I take it you know more than NFL GM's do.

[@jfitness432]

@@cooldude7821 how many GMs reach on guys who end up being terrible or journeyman at best

[@cooldude7821]

@@jfitness432 90 percent of the QB's are drafted too early. Way it is. If you need a QB. You gotta take a chance on somebody somewhere. Are CW, Maye & JD the best players in the draft. Probably not. But they're going 1, 2 ,3 because this is a QB starved sport. Just reality. And it ain't gonna change until all teams have above average QB's.

[@jfitness432]

@@cooldude7821 I believe maye and Williams are worth it, I personally don’t take McCarthy at 6 we’ll set our franchise back years, he just doesn’t have the it factor. I’d rather stick with jones over McCarthy, mccarthy will not survive

[@fullofmuscledownunde]

He’ll be in Washington

[@jaydeep3983]

Both jj & jayden daniels are better than drake maye.maye is overrated.if people think jj isnt worth a top 10 pick theyre stupid