Guild Wars 2: The Story of Elder Dragons - How It All Began... (Soo-Won/Aurene Dialogue)

[@ciphetrix7872]

'Fear not this night' takes a whole new meaning with her last words being about dreaming.

[@noelic6744]

Hearing Soo-Won talking about how she wanted to be a mother to the Elder Dragons and how she's the mother of dead children now was the saddest thing for me. It, for the first time, truly made me think if there really wasn't another way. Hearing how Primordus used to curl up against her tail just paints such a cute scene, now they're all dead.

[@ArtForSwans]

EoD finally gave me what I've been asking for: answers. A new perspective on things we already knew. Certain people think that combining the Elder Dragons' "mother" with the deep-sea dragon and making her the creation god of Tyria was a cop-out. I couldn't disagree more. There could be nothing more fitting than to have the actual literal god of Tyria be an Elder Dragon. It finally explains why the dragons are so integrated with the world, it explains why they're so prominent in depictions of The All. All things I've openly wondered about, all things that finally got answered, and I only had to wait for it! I'm sad their stories ended here. After Zhaitan and the whole "Elder Dragons are nothing more than natural disasters," Mordremoth showed us that the Elder Dragons can speak. Kralkatorrik showed us that they can feel. Jormag taught us that they can scheme. Soo-Won showed us that they can care. All things that they passed on to Aurene.

[@2Btoobee]

ugh im crying again

[@bigbrocj90]

This was awesome

[@MangaMel]

You left out Primodus 😂

[@neilisawesome2333]

@@MangaMel Primordus can cause great wars and torment but shown bravery and courage

[@Hollice1922]

And primordus showed us they can be corrupted remember out of all the dragons he really was the largest yet he really stated dormant

[@jana_6697]

Soo Woons story will never fail to make me cry... this was a beautiful compilation, and each soundtrack and clip was so well chosen. Thank you for this!

[@michram]

I followed my heart, and everything was so spontaneous, it all just felt right for me. I'm glad to see I didn't fail to capture what the writers at Arenanet shared with us

[@holl0918]

I have seen her final scene a dozen times by now, and it is just so damn powerful. We've lost good characters before, but never a character that made you feel like they took all the goodness with them. I mean seriously. We were getting together in Arborstone afterwards to celebrate our victory, the credits are rolling... and the music in the credits says it all. "Can we go on without you?" Kralkatorrik's death was sad, but you could celebrate the win and look forward to what was next. Soo-Won's death just leaves you feeling... hollowed out. The victory is there, but it almost doesn't feel worth anything. Yay! We won! World saved! But... for who? What's the point of saving a world without her in it? IS there even a world without her? The fact that they can do this to you with a character you just met that season and have no history with is truly astonishing. Brava, ArenaNet! I am very interested to see where you take us from here. I love this game more now than ever before, but good grief do you make it hard to go back to doing events and grinding legendaries after that beautiful anihilation you just subjected my heart to.

[@asdadd6304]

And just like that ArenaNet is redeemed for the Icebrood Saga tenfold in my eyes. This entire expansion was incredible and I loved every moment of it. The story of the Elder Dragons and Soo-Won is so tragic, and so well written. Looking back, parenthood has been a theme of the story for so so long, from all the way back in Season 2 (and even before that) with Eir and Braham, the Pale Tree and all Sylvari, Mordremoth being a the origin of all Sylvari in Heart of Thorns, to the Commander and Caithe and Aurene in Living World Season 3, Kralkatorrik and Glint from as far back as Guild Wars 1 and Edge of Destiny, and then Crecia, Rytlock and Ryland in the Icebrood Saga, all ending where it began, Soo-Won and the Elder Dragons. And she said it best, "We have so little control over what our children become."

[@AuroraPeachy]

WOW this is incredible. Thanks for sharing this with us 😭💚

[@michram]

Thanks for watching 💓🥺😭

[@Cakin89]

I can really imagine Primordus as a little baby dragon, curling up to Mother's tail, like a little kitten

[@michram]

🥺🥰

[@luckypeanut9943]

"I thought loneliness was our burden until I met you" Kunnavang: 😐

[@kurooitami]

She wasn't an Elder Dragon, she was not born yet

[@GothSime]

Absolutely beautiful and tragic. Thank you. I wish we could've spent more time with Soo-Won :(

[@AlaiaSkyhawk]

Oh gosh darn it, now her dying is even more tragic! (ty for posting this, I've not been able to finish the achievement for listening to all the convos yet) Poor Soo-Won. She loved her children, she cared for them, but was helpless to prevent them turning into the destructive monsters they became. And the mental image of a baby Primordus hiding within her coils! Even Kralk brining back a gift of food every night to his mother. And then they all just drifted away, drifted apart, and became indifferent to mortal lives and destroyed all in the paths of their own desires. Dang it! T_T

[@bilaliqbal4012]

This is why I love the Guild Wars franchise! Not only is the gameplay & combat is great as well as all game-modes (except dungeons lol) being successful.. Even the story is great!

[@dreadeddarko]

This was beautifully done. The Age of the Elder Dragons was a sight to behold!

[@Tallacus]

It makes sense why the other human gods didn't want anything to do with the elder dragons, they were aliens bringing their creations to sqaut in Tyria.

[@kurooitami]

This alwqys makes me cry. For the story, but also for the game... this was too soon.

[@ranger876]

Oh no, here come the tears again. Thank you for the beautiful video; I appreciate all the effort you put into this video :’)

[@taurock96]

You know, taken out of context, "I thought loneliness was my burden... until I met you" sounds like the biggest burn I've ever heard

[@ciphetrix7872]

Absolutely devastatingly beautiful, thanks for making this vid.

[@shadowhenge7118]

Rip Tybalt, the one I lost to Zhaitan.

[@mignonlabuschagne2856]

evrey time I see a mentor tag in the mini map I think of our apple-loving comrade. Of all the order's mentors he was my first and my favourite.

[@Teleoceras]

Many thanks for putting this up! I was never able to catch all of the dialog between Soo-Won and Aurene at the Jade Sea. You did a fantastic job!

[@ColdMystery]

Absolute masterpiece! Why do you have to make me cry?

[@alexandremiguel5408]

Masterpiece, wonderful masterpiece. Thank you for doing this.

[@mayadragan3555]

This is so so beautiful made.. Congratz and I hope you are proud of this slpendid work.. Thank you ❤

[@JaredSvB]

I really wish they bothered to make this whole dialogue sequence available in-game, after you've done Dragon's End a few times. I listened to all of Soo Won's dialogue for the achievements, but never quite pieced together the story as you've done here!

[@LCAyoutube]

this is epic. and beautiful. makes one shed a tear.

[@luckypeanut9943]

I really appreciate this cinematic. but maaaaan it really adds an extra level of disappointment with jormag and primordus getting shafted

[@andrewmeyer3599]

Big sad that Zhaitan got so heavily redesigned and his fight cut very short due to running out of time

[@neostalgic08]

This is beautiful - thank you so much

[@invidia44]

Amazing video! Also I hate how gw2 is underrated overshadowed by other mmo's with p2p subs ill never understand.

[@keyoterry1220]

I'm in tears, this is gorgeously made 🥺

[@fisherinfocus]

Its been sooo long since I heard fear not this night. Stunning edit

[@tavtav934]

Love it, thank you for your hard work :D

[@Bisheimer]

That could be a great trailer for a movie or the game in general

[@mignonlabuschagne2856]

except it is also the biggest spoiler of the entire 10 years of built up story... but I get where you're coming from. Personally I prefer my trailers to have teazers not spoilers

[@xxargonautxx9790]

Does this mean that Aurene will become what Soo-Won was? She create her own children as she did and be a Mother to them. Making sure they don't lead down the same path?

[@michram]

No, because Aurene is the Prismatic Dragon, which means she does not need to fracture herself. Soo-Won was not a Prismatic Dragon, she was a Water attuned being and then she formed other beings we know as Elder Dragons out of chaotic elements of nature. Aurene will be the only Dragon now, and all she has to do is let the cycle go on. Until someday something else causes the Void to appear, but Aurene will not make the same thing Soo-Won did, because she physically cannot. Aurene's children are Mortals.

[@eldrevo]

Their dialogues in game were such a nice touch to the whole story. And this whole new perspective on the elder dragons make it even more tragic. Well done Michram. P. S. What's the music at 4:35?

[@michram]

Thanks 🥺 the track is called Shadow in the Ice by Brendon Williams

[@eldrevo]

@@michram Ooh, thanks! Sorry for offtopic but didn't expect that to be an IBS piece. Some sort of trailer music or something?

[@michram]

@@eldrevo Well, yes, but also it was re-arranged as "Eagle Flight" - which is one of my favourite tracks ever. Can be found here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4iUk3xomLV1mck

[@alcedof.6629]

And all thats left is the question: Whats next?

[@darkforcekiller]

Whatever it is i hope its something completely fresh and doesnt rely on already-told stuff too much (Gods, Dragons, Political Stuff).

[@MisterAdrien]

Thx for this wonderful editing, perfect choice of scenes and music :)

[@oscarbaruch6984]

Thankss

[@ZophiMichaels]

Damn ninjas cutting onions :(

[@TiMechOfficial]

sad reality is nature stays nature and that had anet good adressed

[@Mollish]

This is just gorgeous! I absolutely love the composition! Where is the dialogue from? I do not remember hearing it in-game!

[@michram]

The dialogue between Aurene and Soo-Won takes place just after the Dragon's End meta event - big red arrows on the map will lead you to this place 😊

[@Mollish]

@@michram Ohhh nice! I've only ever managed to complete the meta once, and had to leave very quickly after. Thank you!

[@oscarbaruch6984]

Subscribed

[@INOY]

😭😭😭

[@michram]

😭😭😭

[@lordmawkish1286]

Wow, this is amazing! Where in the story is this from? I never listened to this in my playthrough!

[@SingaporeLyfe]

At the end of dragon's end meta, you can visit aurene and soo won in mother's lament to listen to all these. There are 5 conversations, but only once per 5 minutes, which means you need 2- 3 runs to complete all. Listening to all grants an achievement 6:50 is the end scene of the story's final chapter However, the author here added various cutscenes from teasers, living world 4 and icebrood saga to give the story more life :)

[@lordmawkish1286]

@@SingaporeLyfe Thank you!

[@draconicfeline6177]

So aurene is a jesus allegory - better than aslan.

[@mugetz696]

Is this from end of dragons expansion?

[@michram]

The whole arrangement of videos and music is put together by me, but few footages in the end are from End of Dragons.

[@mocaxu]

so the 6 gods were like illegal immigrants to Tyria?

[@AngelOfDaydreams]

thank you so muchfor makingthis. Do you still have the (clear?) recordings of their conversation? And if so are you willing to share them? Iwas unable to record them myself and would love to make something with it in the future :)

[@michram]

Hey, yeah I do 😁 How do you want me to send it?

[@AngelOfDaydreams]

@@michram oh thank you so much ^^ is there a way to contact you with email? :) dont think it is wise if I just put mine here xD

[@AngelOfDaydreams]

@@michram perhaps a wetransfer link would be an option? :)

[@michram]

@@AngelOfDaydreams Ohh yes... my email is [e-mail], just send me a email with "hi" and will send the file to you :3

[@bigbrocj90]

@@michram do you still have copies of those conversation sound files?

[@harkym-i4j]

I wonder what happened to the six gods? Is there any relation?, seems like six elder dragon and also coincidences with same numbers six gods of human. Is there any possibility for the six gods that left the Tyria will return as the world seems in peace? Probably the answer in GW3. So far I just met Kormir, Balthazar and Grenth, Abaddon too.

[@michram]

My understanding is... We know there's another world. There is Tyria and the Mists that are tied together and were created by Soo-Won, but humanity came from somewhere else, a world beyond the Mists. Maybe they work like parallel worlds, each world has a creator, but the histories are much different and lands developed differently. What ties the worlds together are the natural elements of the nature. That's why the beings such as the Gods share a piece of creation. But the parallel world's magic isn't exactly the same and while on Tyria Soo-Won decided to give each of her children something to handle to create a counterbalance to the Void, she turned them into mindless beings. In the parallel world it seems to be that Gods were meant to be highly aware and could work together. They colonialized the Mists, and tried to colonialize Tyria with humans, yet they quickly found out that their magics are different from the Dragons' and over time they preferred to first stay in the Mists, but when Balthazar went rogue, they returned to "a new garden", which may mean that their world is perhaps at the beginning of renewal. I would speculate that the Gods left their world with their favorite race, because the Void won at some point, and now they may be trying to restore it back to order.

[@harkym-i4j]

@@michram wow thank you so much, you were right, since Abaddon’s magic at the first place corrupted the whole magic in tyria. One mystery still remains, the six gods capable to kill the elder dragons, but they said, they will end up to destroy both tyria and mist. Why they didn’t bring back all the human to the original world?. What’s really happened to the original world at the first place, that they try to involve themselves with others world? And somehow the gods, human and dragons kinda capable to absorb or steal each others magic 🤔.

[@kjarllan7097]

Dragons and Gods didn't have any relations. We still know almost nothing about the gods. They came from an other world, they bring humans from an other world too (maybe from their world). they provided Blood Stone magic to humans. And they learned of the existence of the ancestral dragons who slept (they arrived after the last awakening of the dragons). But they didn't worry about it at that time. It's when Abaddon got rogue and he was killed that things got bad. Upon dying some of his magic was absorbed by Kormir. But the other part is found loose in nature and it is this surplus which triggered the beginning of a new cycle of awakening of the Dragons (especially since Abaddon coming from another world his magic is "too much "in this world). the gods have calculated their chances of defeating the dragons and have arrived at three possibilities: 1 the dragons hunt them (because the gods are the greatest source of magic in the world) and kill them. 2 the dragons hunt them, but it is the gods who kill them. 3 the gods start from the world and therefore there is no conflict between them. first option: the gods are dead (so they are not too hot just for that) and the dragons become worse (since having absorbed magic not native to this world) and the world will be radically transformed into something else. Second option: the dragons dead, Tyria is destroyed. So the gods at best manage to leave, at worst die. and third option, the gods are gone and Tyria undergoes a new cycle of the Dragons which is only temporary (and that the species can cross). And with luck, the new species will find something against the dragons. (what happened). So the best choice was the third. except for the God of War who wanted to fight because it's in his nature. the other gods therefore had to imprison him in the mists. But so now that the Dragons are dead and have been replaced by a lasting and peaceful solution. The gods are likely to return. and otherwise you forgot to mention other gods that we meet: Dhuum. The ancient god of Death.

[@Hello-no7gm]

​@@michramSoo Won didn't create the mists. Humanity came from another world IN the mists

[@juanpabloportuguezbrenes6668]

Excelente video. In my opinion, this end of the arc of the elder dragons was mediocre and a quick way to get out of this story. I honestly would have preferred them to leave Jormag and Primordious alive for future installments, such as they did with Lazaruz, Palawa joko or the Flame Legion. Then the fact that Soo Wong is the mother of all dragons seems silly to me, it would have been better for the dragons to remain as primal forces of nature and for the 6 to suggest the void and not as they put it here as if they were a dysfunctional family. Finally, this game has the same problems with what is the way of telling a story, many subplots that do not lead to anything like that of Minister Li or the idiocy of bureaucratic procedures. The only positives are the maps and the music that I also liked, the mechanics of fishing is interesting.

[@michram]

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but it's the Western story, you can't really expect it to be anything original, the storytelling of EoD was amazing, rarely to see a coherent story in a game. But don't expect something genius out of it. I rather want to watch cdramas for a good story and storytelling. I also agree with Li story involvement, the whole political thing was really mediocre, but probably because the Saga was all about politics, so probably they didn't want to make another interesting arc about it, just basically created this character to be a villain. I honestly really enjoy the voice acting of Soo-Won, but I have known she is a mother ever since War Eternal, when we hear Kralk saying "Mother", it wasn't a last minute decision, they already planned it. Think about it more, if you want, perhaps you will understand why Soo-Won is the Mother. But I am 100% with you on this, thank you for this comment 😁

[@MrSmokinDragon]

@@michram LOLOLOL - Salty asian being salty