Mickey Mouse - who the heck does he think he is? | Renegade Cut

[@benhur221]

'Mickey' is a nickname, and nicknames are for friends, and Michael Mouse is no friend of mine.

[@HoneycuttVideos]

The scene of Pinnochio’s nose growing as he keeps lying being imposed over Walt Disney as you recount the numerous tall tales he’s told about his mascot’s origins is exactly video editing was made for.

[@gabrieldavis7128]

“His name is Mickey Mouse, not Mickey Man” is one of those quotes that’s going to haunt me forever.

[@ArrowOnionbelly]

The instantly reminded me that Mickey has big chubby human feet, and that bothers me so much

[@jadasc]

I have a two-year-old child, which means I watch a lot of the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. The closing theme of that show, written by They Might Be Giants, is the "hot dog" dance song. Thanks to this video, I now understand that "hot dog, hot dog" were the first words Mickey spoke, which no doubt influenced the song.

[@GoSpeedyRocket]

Oooooh, did not put that together.

[@wayfaringspacepoet]

also might explain why his catchphrase is "Hot DOG!"

[@JMD501]

Some of their kid stuff is really good. Apartment Number 4 is a banger.

[@mikaelamonsterland]

my little brothers and sisters used to watch that show all the time and this was the first time i pieced that together as well

[@tyjordanflophour]

"A door to door salesman who graduated to home intruder" "Disneyland Vatican City" "Pluto lord of the underworld" That entire lore section made me laugh way too hard

[@creutz2704]

I wouldn't have guessed that one of my favourite anarchist youtubers would transition into making 20 minute videos on the meta-identity of Mickey Mouse, but damn somehow you got me glued to my phone for the entire thing. Keep it coming boss!

[@tenebrousoul9368]

NGL, he's got me just *waiting* to see what he'll do next

[@Lexivor]

I first became a fan of Leon because of his "Attack of the Trek" series where he talked about Star Trek episodes. This was about a decade ago, and he's changed the focus of his videos several times since then.

[@stevescotthiphop]

​@Lexivor was gonna say this.. I think it's kind of funny/cool that some people know him primarily for his political videos

[@Zipshysa]

I've always found it strange that Donald Duck is almost always dressed like a sailor, yet canonically was first a US Army soldier in WWII.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

I found it strange he had no pants.

[@SmokeyChipOatley]

@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 **hits blunt** Pluto is dog. Pluto go “bark muf’a woof”. Goofy is dog. Goofy go “Gawrsh Maxy, I think it’s time you learned the truth. Your mother perished in a freak road accident when you were just a baby. We were driving you to your first doctor appointment. It all happened… so fast. Without warning, SMASH. That brick must’ve been going at least 100mph on account of… what was left… I’ll never be able to get her final excruciating gurgles out of my head…. GUH-HYUCK” Oh yeah and Donald be out there with his lil ducky jingle jangles out lmao

[@Asahamana]

They make mistakes like that in the marines.

[@caffetiel]

​@@SmokeyChipOatley he'd be unlikely to evert his corkscrew outside of particular contexts, tbf

[@christopherschneider2968]

12:06 "Real Micky mouse fans, who call themselves Ratf*ckers.." This is poetry.

[@avvyrude7603]

The deadpan delivery of this line sent me reeling so hard I thought I was going to lose my job

[@tremtwo1168]

Due to this line, this video is now my favorite on KZbin.

[@faeldray]

This caused me to choke on my drink

[@arenomusic]

The Skavs have a song about this

[@MickeyMousekefan]

I guess that would make me Mickey Ratfu*kfan

[@blandedgear9704]

Mousetrapped by Randy Milholland is a webcomic that sort of functions as a sequel to Steamboat Willie, taking the characters from it and some others from the same time and using them to tell an original comedic narrative. Certainly more interesting than all the mickey mouse horror.

[@jeremysmith4620]

Thank you Leon for tackling the pure demonic force of mickey mouse.

[@zoe_astra]

As someone who has really not consumed very much Disney media in my lifetime (I was so traumatised by Bambi as a child, literally, after I watched it I had recurring nightmares of my mum dying and I refused to watch any other Disney films) my main idea of Mickey Mouse as a character is as portrayed in South Park.

[@blu3622]

Same. Bambi and Dumbo honestly traumatized me as a child. I was raised by a single mom, so losing her was my biggest fear. I watched a lot of looney tunes and TMNT 🐢

[@rennixwusky8522]

Leon out here living his best life and I'm here for it

[@dotEmfour]

My stepdaughter has days where the new Mickey Mouse cartoons are all she wants to watch and I secretly hope that every day is “binge the mouse cartoon”, or to a lesser extent “binge Chip and Dale: Park Life”, which does much the same thing with no dialog.

[@benburke3015]

Seeing Leon falling in love with the modern Mickey Mouse shorts warms my increasingly cold heart.

[@doughboydevito4529]

Related to the presence that mickey mouse has in american culture: in the 90s, disney released a rap album called "mickey unrapped" where the cover featured mickey mouse w/ baggy pants and a backwards baseball cap, and years later a florencia 13 gang member made a drawing depicting mickey doing a similar pose as the "mickey unrapped" cover but w/ disrespectful statements against rival gangs written around him. It made me think of the various gangs that have sometimes used mickey in their art like venice 13, insane 22 boys, latin brothers, latin pachucos, etc. One of the most notable examples being a mural made in north and latrobe in chicago featuring a mickey mouse flashing the latin brothers gang sign while dressed like he was in fantasia

[@fanboy50]

I about died laughing hearing you, tone same as ever, say "Goofy, a simple man who had to have had sex at least once."

[@muddlewait8844]

These are getting better and better. Dry humor liberally sprinkled with sucker-punch belly laughs is my new favorite thing.

[@LauraGrrrr5370]

I mean yeah. They gave Goofy a son. And did not think that through.

[@Licity-Lovelace]

Goofy fucks and thats all that matters.

[@Jovian12]

Your sarcastic, deadpan delivery kills me every time. I feel like I'm watching the ramblings of the last guy who survived an apocalypse. Hilarious all the way.

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

"that man is still at large, and nobody is doing anything about it" god the delivery of this slayed me entirely (as do the other jokes you do like that) :)

[@ryans4877]

Wow, waking up needlessly early has paid off today

[@AustinSportsGuy]

The new Mickey shorts are amazing. I wouldn’t have known about these if not for my 3-year-old daughter getting into these. I’ve watched all of them and love rewatching them with my daughter. They’re excellent and funny, just as you said. I also encourage you to check out the new Chip n Dale shorts. They’re similar but pantomime. Like Mr. Bean. Amazing stuff.

[@LENGTHEATER]

The cryo-frozen brain of Walt Disney approves of this video.

[@nicks8443]

His cryo-frozen, Nazi loving brain

[@yasuke9317]

​@@ImpalerVladTepesOG frozen 😂

[@Busto]

Thank you for the Ren & Stimpy comment about the 2013 Mickey cartoons. My son used to watch them & I thought the exact same thing! The Mickey Mantle card was brilliant. As was, "...An unnamed city. Like Bob's Burgers. Or Seven." 🤣🤣🤣

[@georgemetcalf8763]

I want more analysis of Donald. The stop-loss line had me rolling. Thank you.

[@owlyus]

"Oh I ain't gonna work at Mickey's farm no more"

[@mmjahink]

Nice

[@darkninjafirefox]

Six Flags is where we all go after the magic of disney wears thin

[@Sairin13]

This is a good video, I think it resonates well with examining Donald Duck and his history in comics which is more extensive than commonly known.

[@teenprez]

I’m completely sold on the Mickey shorts based on the tiny clips you showed! Off to watch 🎉

[@helenl3193]

Same, I had no idea they existed!

[@brandonm2286]

One of my favorite KZbinrs talking about my most hated fictional character: The rat

[@iconoclast137]

your channel is just beyond classification. i love it. you are a true artist.

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

Welp, THIS WAS A RIDE! I'm glad Micky has taken a form you enjoy so thoroughly, and that you found something fun in the process of researching the topic! Considering how often my own digging into rabbit holes of curiosity has led me to terrible things, theres reflexive exhaustion felt whenever I *idiate* on a childhood influence I haven't looked up the backstory on... but also a stubborn determination to find out anyway because I Care About Knowing What Is True, not comforting myths and the vauge fog of my own maintained ignorance. Finding out modern Mickey is actually a lot of fun was a wholesome twist ❤

[@HandlesAreUgly]

I love the clip of Minnie tripping on a gnome. "Wha happuh" is just such a good line read and his instant decision to also trip on the gnome is just fantastic. I was waiting for it to show up in the montage and was NOT disappointed

[@PogieJoe]

Yessss 2010s Mickey Mouse is so good. The team on those did such an incredible job

[@DarayaVahu]

16:00 Jesus this Goffy is terrifying

[@BlackTestament]

I agree but it's honestly so out of pocket I absolutely love it lol

[@Dr_Cigarettes]

"This is a Mickey who F*cks" really brightened my morning.

[@Mutilatrix]

I did hear the bit where you said you don't want any more Mickey Mouse horror, but I still feel compelled to recommend, for anyone who's interested in "old" horror sci-fi, C.M. Kornbluth's short story "The Advent on Channel Twelve." It's fabulous, creepy, and very tongue-in-cheek. In fact, just read all the C.M. Kornbluth possible! People really sleep on him and it's a damned shame. Also, I was utterly unprepared for "ratfuckers" and almost shot coffee out of my nose. Your increasingly great comedic writing paired with the overall matter-of-fact delivery older viewers expect makes it all the funnier. Really liking this new stuff. It's clear you're in a better place writing it and having fun with writing, and it's great to hear. :3 Leon just hanging out laughing aloud at cartoons is an image that genuinely makes me smile.

[@rotwang2000]

Wow, first Folding Ideas, then Renegade Cut, must watch youtube double dose !

[@3of19]

That was fun honest and insightful all at once. Great work! Also kudos for the shoutout to the modern Mickey shorts, they are SO GOOD, I love them all and it’s one of the first things I check out whenever I resub to D+. Btw since you liked those so much, I’m sure you’d get a kick out of the Chip and Dale: Parklife series. Three shorts per episode, two seasons (so far?), zany and high energy, and a little sly.

[@gomatgo]

Real talk, "Mumbai Madness" might be one of the most beautiful pieces of animation I've ever seen.

[@raq619]

This video appeals a lot to me specifically because, for whatever reason, I've come to really like ruminating on the meta-character (or lackthereof) of long running franchise characters. Mickey & Co., the Looney Tunes, the Scooby Gang, Pokémon, etc. I just find it interesting how so much about these characters can change from iteration to iteration, & yet they're always recognizable, because they're more symbol than they are a part of any one narrative, really. Also, I just really like Daffy Duck.

[@Rev-bb9ej]

17:22 Disney is morally good now. No need for further critique.

[@EmjayUltra]

I've been a little confused by the channel's new direction, but this is hilarious. I forgot how funny you are!

[@NeilBlumengarten]

"It's on America's tortured brow That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow"

[@mikkosimonen]

The folks at Disney: "Let's make fun little toons in the spirit of old Mickey!" The public domain folks: "What if Mickey stabbed people?" I think the public domain is good, but I do wish more of the people utilizing it actually wanted to use the character of Mickey rather than wanting to flip off Disney.

[@cedaremberr]

It's hard to not want to flip off Disney, since they are the reason that the time to enter the public domain is so interminably long

[@Caernath]

Nice to see that there's a return to funny Mickey Mouse animation. I've gathered that the Looney Tunes also made a comeback of sorts, although their shorts are barely advertized by Warner Bros.

[@misfittastic]

I deeply appreciate this new era of renegade cut

[@srwapo]

Those shorts ARE great! A couple of days ago I was thinking that I need to rewatch them.

[@teh201d]

Every once in a while I answer the phone with a "wha happ'n"

[@redactedhash]

"the opposite of a vore fetish" ... clinically a vore fetish is vorarephilia ... so the opposite would be vorarephobia

[@zainmudassir2964]

Like that scene in Invincible with shrinking Rae

[@36inc]

its so funny he mentions having that sorta dream cause i had a simular one but came out with the philia version. (it wasnt mickey mouse though it was frankenstiens creation-Ima big book nerd)

[@andchimeras]

Maybe he meant: the "opposite of a vore" fetish, which I guess would be emetophilia?

[@SimberPlays]

I remember really enjoying those later mickey mouse cartoons when they were on disney channel

[@largo621]

I genuinely love that you're clearly having a blast making these videos. As long as you keep making them, I'll keep watching them :)

[@Vin4ART]

You sound like you’re genuinely having fun. I’m glad to notice that in your voice.❤👏🏾👍🏾

[@WyattAndrews]

11:02 when i die, let my epitaph read: "A simple man, who had to have sex at least once."

[@JRSpecht]

There are also 4 seasonal modern mickeys (wonderful world of spring, etc), a christmas and halloween special, and Steamboat Silly; all listed as single entries rather than with the other episodes

[@siegebug]

I sort the modern Mickey cartoon based on regions as my definitive viewing order. Sometimes it's the suburb, metropolis, e/w coast, mid-west, world tour, etc.

[@ryanahr2267]

This episode was awesome from start to finish, but again,, I have to say that I deeply connect with a part of it, specifically your story to kick it off. I also had a weird dream about Disney characters when I was a kid. Mine only happened when I was sick, and I was in a trench in WWII with Mickey, Donald, and Goofy. We were cowering against the sides of the trench as enemy soldiers marched by and an endless stream of planes flew overhead dropping bombs. That introduced me the whole concept of a fever dream and has ensured that I take Nyquil before bed if I'm feeling even slightly ill ever since.

[@GodheadNee]

this is really cute. those cartoons always look fun; my bile response to disney is not something i'm looking to get over but I appreciate when they let really great talented people do their thing.

[@JimmyG96]

3:07 - 7:38 As someone who considers himself an animation historian, I think you're not giving Walt Disney enough credit for the creation of Mickey Mouse. Don't get me wrong, Ub Iwerks was EQUALLY important to Mickey's creation and he didn't 100% get the recognition he deserved, but at the same time I think people often OVERCORRECT themselves by saying "Ub is the REAL CREATOR and Walt Disney STOLE Mickey"... but in reality BOTH men were equally responsible. While the exact inspiration for Mickey has always been something of a "he said/she said" situation (mostly because both Walt and Ub gave conflicting reports over the decades) so we'll never 100% know the exact details, what we do know is this: Ub Iwerks DESIGNED Mickey and ANIMATED the first handful of cartoons almost entirely by himself... HOWEVER much of the writing and direction of the early Mickey cartoons was by Walt Disney. If you want proof of that, in 1930 Ub Iwerks feeling he wasn't getting his due credit, left Disney and formed his own studio creating forgettable characters like Flip the Frog and Willie Whopper. Many who worked at the studio like Grim Natwick, Shamus Cullhane and Chuck Jones in their later years said that Ub wasn't that particularly creative, and audiences largely rejected his cartoons leading to MGM cancelling his distribution contract in 1934 with one theatre manager writing "...never have we been so glad to rid ourselves of Flip the Frog and Willie Whopper". Walt on the other hand was bursting with creativity, the Disney Archives have transcripts of story confrences between Walt and his artists on productions like Snow White and Bambi, and it shows him giving exact directions on characters, shots, camera angles, music etc. There's even stories of Walt acting out specific parts, and the animators being mesmerised. Look, I'm not trying to talk down Ub Iwerks here, he was a brilliant animator and deserves a lot of credit for Mickey's creation, but that doesn't take away from Walt's contributions either. At the end of the day, animation is a collaborative medium and no single person can take credit for any one idea. Who created Mickey: Walt or Ub? Simple, THEY BOTH DID! Besides, in 1940 Walt and Ub eventually patched things up, and Ub (who at this point had grown bored with animating) returned to Disney in 1940 and became the tech-wiz at the Disney Studio, developing techniques such as the combination of live-action and animation on Mary Poppins. Also, the relationship portrayed in The Simpsons episode: "The Day the Violence Died"... is honestly a lot closer to that of Pat Sullivan and Otto Messmer (and the creation of Felix the Cat) than it is Walt and Ub.

[@eduardo5569]

great video! it's been a while since I checked into your channel, glad i did

[@walterb.3592]

Genuinly great video, id be down for more in this style

[@Cromulorf]

I don’t know why the “rat fuckers” line caught me so off guard but it had my dying 😂

[@Poyostar]

Gotta say, this is a super well done video! I appreciate the fact that the Paul Rudish shorts were given their own dedicated segment; if we ever get another non-Disney Junior series starring the leader of the club that's made for you and me, it'll have some heavy shoes to fill!

[@stevenhandzel5929]

Really liking this side of you, Leon!

[@jacquiecotillard9699]

Your pan is exceptionally dead and your gags are plentiful while never straying from the point. Thanks as usual!

[@kinnikufan]

I do not comment often these days but I wanted to say that I love the new videos. I have been a big fan since way back in the Word Funk days, so I have enjoyed a lot of the different work you have done, but these last several videos have been some of my favorites since the feature length deep dives from a while ago. This one in particular is both fun and funny and it also introduced me to a new series that I was unaware of and seems right up my alley. Thank you for the wonderful videos and I hope you are doing well!

[@TyrannoNoddy]

wow i tune back in after needing to catch up on your vids for a while and you suddenly have this whole deadpan dry humour thing going on, amazing

[@maxpotiontcg]

I finally got a notification from Renegade Cut!

[@ericbright1881]

15:16 Somehow, Mickey pretending to play a drum kit while the real drummer is sitting directly behind him is what I'm upset at him for.

[@SnoFitzroy]

I was like 12 when the "no shirt, no shoes" modern short premiered and you just unlocked several core memories for me with that montage.

[@PanzerHyena]

I only have one thing to say about the new Mickey Mouse shorts: Potato Land.

[@d.w.stratton4078]

I'm glad you're taking care of your mental health and doing stuff you enjoy, Renegade! Thanks for that. Can't have our best comrades flaming out and going the way of the Dodo from burnout.

[@jeezjacob]

Yo!! The breakdown with all the mascots at Disneyland was hilarious! You say you're not funny but that was amazing delivery. Nice.

[@Epiphanetic_]

I loooove the new Mickey Mouse series it’s fantastic.

[@seanmcdougall9497]

9:33 A "Virtuosity" (1995) reference in a Mickey Mouse video. I salute you sir.

[@arenomusic]

11:05 Happy 90th Don, one of the bravest vets I know

[@mhw7375]

Really happy you made this!

[@Gwunhar]

That intro was one of the most horrifyingly vivid things I've ever heard. Great stuff. What a ride this turned out to be lol

[@djmcbratney]

I didn't expect that this would be one of those videos finding the joy beyond the horror and was pleasantly surprised, delightful. = ]

[@goranisacson2502]

I too have had nightmares that went on and on, were I was eaten for what felt like a whole night. I was also a child back then, I wonder if that has something to do with it, if the thought of being eaten is just extra scary at that point in your life. But night terrors aside you are right, the new Mickey Mouse shorts are tremendous entertainment and I am happy for you for having discoverd these bizarre little gems.

[@Laribhaven]

Michael mouse might not be my friend. But his modern era surely brings the vibes...

[@nekosd43]

I am delighted by the new types of videos you are putting out, they have all been very funny in a way I sorely need these days :)

[@guyr3618]

I can't believe you made me want to watch a 2014 Disney cartoon. Delightful video, BTW!

[@rickfakhre2400]

I think you would really like Scavengers Reign. It's on Netflix now but was originally a Max animated series. It's a really fucken creative world. Anyway, I really liked it.

[@Mutilatrix]

My favorite new media in the last ten forevers. That said, I hope Leon doesn't make a video on it, because I've been working on a script about it for one of the first long-form essays I hope to start making, and I'm sure he'll make all my best observations much better and faster than I could! >_

[@rickfakhre2400]

@@Mutilatrix Post a link here when you upload it so I can watch it. Thanks

[@dave_riots]

how you were able to do this with a straight face is absolutely wild 💀

[@Daemonite]

I'm digging the new stuff! So glad you decided to do it!

[@taperhunter8671]

11:00 Thankfully Donald Duck was officially discharged from service in 1984,

[@yeeyeeyeeye]

I love the suggestion that the new Mickey Mouse shorts are so good they can replace going to therapy. Which is true.

[@blujay1683]

I started watching your videos for the political essays but honestly i like whatever youre doing right now too. its refreshing and you have a good sense of humor but still keep to the same style of delivery and editing that makes your videos recognizable, which has made these recent videos enjoyable to me even if they are different from what i am used to seeing from you :)

[@tverdyznaqs]

If I end up falling asleep to this video and get that same nightmare you had, you will be hearing from my lawyers.

[@iamjustkiwi]

I'm really loving the current direction of this channel, I feel like some of my internal rants between my inner selves have been dragged out and put into video format.

[@gordyhowitzer]

One of the craziest things in the history of media is the parallel version of Mickey, Donald and Goofy that exist within the universe of Kingdom Hearts. A keyblade master would never vore you, Leon

[@Ziegrif]

A god, hoho.

[@neocatgoddess]

:)

[@jessclark9725]

“It’s just the most horrible dream anyone can conceive of” *describes popular animated porn genre*

[@SpeakingJargon]

I loved the display of unironic joy in this video despite knowing all the cynical reasons with one could reasonably reject that joy. Good stuff.

[@neilchatterjee7644]

Your videos are getting way weirder and I’m here for it.

[@cadillacdeville5828]

Yes, I believe Mickey isba bit full of himself

[@MilesVideos10000]

Great video. Made me think about childhood nightmares that still rattle me.

[@ThatTallBrendan]

"How Mickey Mouse vore changed my life" But, for real, I feel like I need to stick this out just for that.

[@alse3255]

I heard it from another person on KZbin that he considers Mickey with the early cartoons is more like an actor starring in various short films, playing different roles. Not literally, but that that's practically the framing.