Micro Bevel Bowl Gouge Woodturning Secret Weapon Wood Bowls Video

[@davidrussell6105]

I've have studied what You do and what You use. I just received a 5/8" bowl gouge today and that is what I'll use it for. Thanks a million !!!!!!!!!! David

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

You are welcome a million! ;) Happy Turning!

[@georgecorreia1169]

Tried to make a cup today and this is what I need to get down deep inside. Thank you Kent!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Wonderful George! Have fun with it! Happy Turning!

[@jimmartin8949]

Best one yet! Thanks for the detailled explanation, and demo of how to recover from mistakes

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

My pleasure, Jim. All the best to you and Happy Turning!

[@robertschaeffer5861]

Appears to be about the same grind on the 5/8 bowl gouge as a scraper grind..but the cutting edge is much more versatile...thanks for giving us the intro to more versatility.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

You bet. I want you to be able to solve any problem when you're turning wood bowls. Happy Turning!

[@daveappler6806]

Having been in the “Hob” manufacturing business since 1973; second and third clearance angles behind your primary cutting angle are a must when using gun drills. I’m just getting into wood lathe turning and am enjoying your tutorials. I’ve already modified an older tool with swept back side wings and added the secondary clearance/relief angle to see how it performs. Also, I’m not satisfied with the runout tolerances on four jaw chucks, so I will be hole grinding the I.D. and external grinding the O.D. of the Chuck jaws to get them to tolerances I desire.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Whoa! You sound super precise Dave. Love it. All the best to you and Happy Turning!

[@peterjennings8880]

Another great video…thanks. wish I’d met you when I started turning. I’m retired now so am going to concentrate on bowl turning. Next time you are in SW France please look in to my shop 😀.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Thank you, Peter! You're here now so the learning can continue at full speed! Enjoy! All the best to you and Happy Turning!

[@ericwinckler5142]

Thank you Kent for this it has helped me so much along with your other videos. I will use this with one of my gouges. I have been turning for about 4 months and enjoy how you have been helping me, Lord Bless you.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Much appreciated, Eric. Thank you and Happy Turning!

[@CarlosMiranda-gm3pb]

Thank you so very much Kent. Your video has already helped me with turning nearly perfect bowls.

[@tonylyons5665]

I've recently purchased a new 5/8" bowl gouge and reground my old one to a 70 degree "bottom feeder". This is a game changer. Thanks for the tips on proper presentation. 👍

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

That is awesome! So glad you tried it out. All the best to you and Happy Turning!

[@MD-en3zm]

This is helpful. I’m relatively new to turning, and having trouble with the bottoms of bowls. I’m going to try this.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Great. I hope you like! Happy Turning!

[@trurex007lee7]

Thank you Kent. Great instructional video. So glad you explain the cause of the tool vibrations and uneven cuts along the tools path. Without a mentor directly watching over me as I turn and learn you are the next best choice.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Excellent! Glad it helped. Happy Turning!

[@RickTurnsWoodturning]

Great video, Kent!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it. Happy Turning to you too!

[@bdemaree2672]

Thanks for the great information. I am just getting started and your videos are a great help! The micro bevel will make a big difference, thanks. Take care

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

So glad to help! Happy Turning!

[@g.leebihm2588]

With my retirement coming up at the end of the year, I have decided to get into woodturning to help keep me busy. I enjoy your videos. They are very informative. Hopefully I’ll have my new shop build by Christmas, my other shop is full of other hobbies, and I will start buying the items need to start turning. Thanks for such great info that is easy for someone like me to understand.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Enjoy your retirement! Woodturning is an excellent thing to take up and enjoy! Happy Turning!

[@jontoolman]

Another great video. The micro bevel is definetly on my wish list. Thank-you for sharing.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Thanks for watching!

[@harmoniqstudio3022]

Kent, this video was monumental in the success of my latest turned bowl, a gorgeous piece of air dried Granadillo. Funny thing is, I’ve actually had a 3/8 bottom bowl gouge since I started turning six months ago but seldom used it. Now it’s my go-to tool for getting the bottom of my bowl beautiful! So thank you for uploading such turner’s wisdom, Kent. I look forward to your next video:-)

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Wonderful! Isn't it so satisfying to already have what you need on hand?! Glad to help and Happy Turning!

[@michaelmacleod1305]

I have already made a micro bevel on a 5/8" gouge, I just haven't used it yet. This video comes at a great time as I am going to be doing some bowls over the next two days. Thanks for another stellar video.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Excellent! Love when timing works out. All the best to you and Happy Turning!

[@jochrisyogi]

Thank you Kent. Another well explained and informative video. Always a pleasure to watch, really building on my skills.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Thanks for watching, Happy Turning!

[@dianadougherty7187]

Thankyou so much for sharing all your knowledge . I am learning so much from you. You're amazing, diana

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

You are so welcome! Thank you and Happy Turning!

[@MattPrice864]

Great video. Beautiful wood! Happy turning.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Thank you very much! Happy Turning!

[@dianayates7922]

This is a very helpful video. Well done!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Thank you Diana! Happy Turning!

[@danielmarmon6064]

Thanks, Kent. I bought a "bottom feeder" bowl gouge recently and have been having a rough time of it. A couple catches and I was thinking about regrinding it to a shape I was more comfortable with. After watching this video I'm inspired to give it another go. Happy Turning!!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Right on. You can do it. It takes a bit of practice. All the best to you and Happy Turning!

[@danmccarthy444]

You are an excellent teacher. You repeat concepts and repetition is a key to learning. Also, I wonder why you don’t have to say, “Uh”, “You know”, and other fillers. Maybe you practice a lot. At any rate, these videos are helping me a ton.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Dan, Thanks a ton. I love sharing and helping others!

[@SimonWälti-l1c]

Really interesting.

[@matthewschmalz852]

Great explanation. As my tool collection grows I may add this!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

You should, I think you'll like having it when the moment arises. Happy Turning!

[@carolriley8472]

I've considered buying that gouge for quite a long time...I might just go ahead and do it!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Go for it. You'll be happy you have it when it's needed! Happy Turning!

[@sotirisstk3676]

Thank you Kent. Great video

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

You are very welcome

[@bobergstrm1789]

Excelent teaching and demo.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Many thanks! Happy Turning!

[@Ivan_Baev_45]

Спасибо за видео👍

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Не за что. Всего вам доброго и счастливого обращения.

[@craigkeller]

Thank you 🙏!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

You're welcome, Craig! Happy Turning!

[@kenkaufman4736]

I will be adding the micro bevel tool to my kit. Thanks for the tip.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

No problem 👍 Glad to help. Happy Turning!

[@keithkimsten5111]

What is the purpose of two relief bevels verses the single relief bevel on this tool? Just curious if there is a reason for the second relief as the shoulder of the first relief stops "riding the bevel" of the second relief bevel. I like your tool assessment videos very much. I finally see what I do naturally, explained.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Good question. There is only one bevel, and it is the facet directly under the cutting edge. The heel has been ground back under the bevel twice to allow the cutting edge and bevel to turn tighter curves while still riding the bevel. Thanks for asking and Happy Turning!

[@keithkimsten5111]

@@TurnAWoodBowl Thanks. I figured there was a reason, had to ask. 👍👍🍻

[@dtork47]

Very helpful Kent! Was wondering when you were gonna get that curved rest out! Need to add the 60 degree micro bevel to my arsenal! Stay safe.....

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Glad to help! Yeah, the curved tool rest works great for deeper bowls and gets used about 10-20% of the time. Thanks and you stay safe too!

[@jarmstrong2843]

Excellent information on bottom feeder gouge. Thanks for sharing, Kent! BTW, I noticed the rust / wood buildup on your bottom feeder gouge. Some WD40 and 0000 steel wool will remove most, if not all of that corrosion / wood residue. Wipe down your tools after they are used to help prevent this from happening. Then put a light coat of WD40 or car polish on the HSS to keep the corrosion down when stored for a long time. This will keep tools looking nice and protect them.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Hey, that's great advise. Thank you. It's so humid here that we kinda just accept a little surface rust. I'll try you tip out. Thanks!

[@jarmstrong2843]

Turn A Wood Bowl You could also use some Johnson & Johnson paste wax on your tools as well. It does a great job protecting tools. And it is great to polish the bed of the lathe so the tail stock and banjo will slide around easily.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

@@jarmstrong2843 Yes, I use that on the bed and banjo. Another great tip. Thanks

[@topguncg47]

Do more shots looking parallel with the wood to the tool rest. Shows the angle of tool to the wood the best. Thx

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

OK, noted. Thanks.

[@edwardukleja4583]

Hi Kent. I noticed a Sorby Pro Edge in the background but I have seen you use a CBN wheel to sharpen gauges. When do you use the Pro Edge?

[@debbiekorwin4000]

Very helpful!!👍

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jaimegenovajr3257]

Nice informative video, any links where can I buy a swepback gouge? Thanks

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

The bevel profile is best created and I show exactly how to do that in my Tool Sharpening course www.TurnAWoodBowl.com/sharp Happy Turning!

[@andrewcooke8729]

I'm having trouble finding an angle gauge for setting the platform on my grinder setup. Do you have a link where I can find one?

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Here you go Andrew amzn.to/40jIEAH Happy Turning!

[@almollitor]

Can any bowl gouge be ground into a micro-bevel, or is it best to start with one ready-made? I gather that 5/8" is the best size. Do you cover this grind in your sharpening instructional video? (I already have it, but don't recall.) Thanks!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Al, yes you can put any grind on any bowl gouge. The heavier gouges, like the 5/8" are more sturdy for doing micro bevel work. And yes, I cover all this in the Tool Sharpening (and shaping) online eCourse. All the best to you and Happy Turning!

[@howardwittwer7490]

Howard Wittwer, Great lesson, my biggest issue is being left handed, so sometimes I work on the other side of the bed. Teaching myself to operate as a righted handed is taking a time. Do you have any suggestions for working at a lathe left handed.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Wow, "work backwards." That probably doesn't help. LOL Just remember all the bowl gouge basics still apply. Be sure the bowl gouge tip is pointing of the direction of your cut, etc. Watch the full playlist of all my Bowl Gouge videos. And quite literally, you'll need to reverse your approach if you're working on the opposite side of the lathe.

[@feetachemail]

Howard, I work left handed as often as I do right handed, so it can be done. Patience is the key because as Kent said you're trying to work backwards more or less when compared to what you see in the videos. Take your time, use very shallow cuts at first until you get used to proper positioning of the tool rest, tool angle, etc. Getting the right angle can be tricky. When I do it I flip my lathe into reverse and stand at what is really the back of the lathe which makes it easier. But if you do have a reverse on your lathe and try it that way, LOCK DOWN YOUR CHUCK or Faceplate with the setscrews! Last thing you want is the chuck unscrewing itself.

[@ericjkremer]

What would think if I reversed direction of turning the bowl and continued to use my fingernail 45° gouge with a center to exterior push cut?

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Eric, good question. If the bottom of the bowl is curved and you reverse the gouge direction from the bottom up to the rim, you will be tearing out the end grain as you climb up the bowl. Watch this video turnawoodbowl.com/supported-cut-wood-grain-bowl-gouge-cut-direction/ You have discovered the limitation of the 45° and the 40/40 grind bowl gouge. There's nothing wrong with these tools. You will just need additional tools to reach the bottom of the bowl. All the best to you, and Happy Turning!

[@pjenslin1]

Can I use the micro bevel to hollow out the whole bowl? I am new to wood turning. Currently using carbide tools. Want to gradually phase in traditional chisels. I want to start with a bowl gauge. Which one should I take? The flute or the the bottom feeder?

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Yes you can! However, when you start at the rim, you will need to extend yourself completely over the lathe because of the tool angle. A 1/2" 55° swept-back bowl gouge is my main bowl gouge and I use it all the time. I have a Tools Sharpening (and shaping) eCourse that covers all the tools you will need to turn bowls, check it out turnawoodbowl.com/tool-sharpening-ecourse-for-wood-bowl-turning/

[@AirCotton578]

Can you do a video on picking your 1st lathe.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Sure, that sounds like a good plan. Happy Turning!

[@barrymondahl7079]

Can you give indication of the rpm of the lathe at time of cutting.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

I'd like to, but my lathe does not have an RPM readout. I have a lathe speed video coming soon and you'll see what I do.

[@prsearls]

Another turning “nugget.” It looks like I’ll be adding a bigger bowl gouge to my arsenal. There seems to be no end to your important and useful information for us (me), Kent. Thanks. I love your high quality videography that demonstrates your explanations so well. I’m a visual learner so this is important to my understanding. That is a beautiful, spalted bowl, too. I’ll be signing up for your tool shaping/sharpening course.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Paul, Thank you! That is great news and I hope you enjoy the Tool Sharpening eCourse. Yes, visual learning is my preferred way of learning too, that is why the eCourse is full of videos lesson by lesson. Enjoy and Happy Turning!

[@Aliceballard59]

What kind of wood was that bowl made of. I must have missed it in your video.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Spalted Tulip Poplar! I should have mentioned it, but I was too focused on the micro bevel. ;)

[@Aliceballard59]

@@TurnAWoodBowl It was a very beautiful wood. I don't believe that I have ever seen that kind before.

[@peterstenabaugh3041]

Kent I fully understand the reasoning behind the micro bevel feature, and I think it is fantastic, but why not incorporate this micro bevel on all your swept back gouges. It seems as though that would increase the usefullness of all your tools if you did that, instead of having to switch out to a 'special gouge' just to do the bottoms of bowls etc. Maybe you already incorporate this feature and I just havent come across it yet.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Peter, good question. The steep angle works well for reaching into the bottom of the bowl. To do the side walls of the bowl at about 90° you would need to reach clear across the lathe to ride the bevel. That's where the 55° bevel gouge shines. Hope that helps. Happy Turning!

[@peterstenabaugh3041]

@@TurnAWoodBowl Ok, that makes sense. I'm not quite ready but I'll be watching your sharpening video quite soon. First up is to get a Kodiak sharpening station setup, along with a few new gouges..... then look out wood........

[@TerribleTim68]

I'm struggling with just hollowing out the inside of the bowl. It feels like every time my gouge approaches the "edge" between the face of the bowl and the inside it wants to just jump out of my hand, chatter or simply "run" to the left really fast. I can't get it to actually take a smooth seat and begin the cut down into the bowl. A couple notes here: 1) I'm super new to this, turned my very first bowl last weekend and it was all just trying to grasp the motions. 2) The gouges I have came from my wife's grandpa, who left us a few years back. The lathe and all of his tools sat in storage for well over a decade. 3) I currently have no way to sharpen them, so I'm aware that I'm poking dull gouges at spinning wood and hoping for the best. Is it possible I'm doing something wrong? Or more likely that the gouges just aren't sharp enough?

[@TerribleTim68]

To be more specific on the cut I'm struggling with, it would be the one you make at exactly 17:13 in the video. You smoothed off the face and then started a cut down into the bowl. Every time I try to start that cut down into the bowl the gouge fights me like you wouldn't believe! Most of the time, rather than start cutting down into the bowl, the gouge wants to catch and run across the bowl rim to the left.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Oh, I have a video JUST ABOUT THAT ISSUE kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5PNm5WBmLagibc&t Check it out and Happy Turning!

[@TerribleTim68]

@@TurnAWoodBowl thank you Kent! This is exactly what I need. I appreciate you!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

@@TerribleTim68 Glad to help!

[@lyndalanthony635]

Specialty tool? I use the micro bevel on ALL of my gouges, and oh yeah, I don't bother with a bottom feeder. I also only use a 40/40 on the whole bowl. I can rough out a soft maple bowl in about 10 to 15 minutes and that just doesn't leave time to use a bunch of different gouges/angles. I've actually roughed the inside of a soft maple bowl in 90 seconds. I use a modified Stuart Batty style of doing the inside of bowls.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Sounds like a great way to turn. Happy Turning!

[@samrollason8327]

Im not only learning tonnes of tips, I’m learning KILO-TONNES!!!!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Kilo-tons of thanks to you! ;)

[@cjake2767]

Craig J. Boston MA, bowl

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Thank you for entering! Happy Turning!

[@adamjohnson6430]

kent, when you are referring the angle of your tool you are describing how many degrees of angle off the shaft of the tool, correct? I have a tormek sharpener and i think they do the opposite. have you come across this before? is it a european thing?

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Adam, I must be honest, this always confuses me. LOL I've had people tell me that the angle needs to be measured from the face and others say the flat flute area. Essentially, all the tool bevel angles are closer to vertical or 90°. Meaning, if the tools had a blunt 90° angle bevel, the turning angles are only a small percent away from that 90°. I'm not sure if that helps at all. Hopefully! Happy Turning!

[@adamjohnson6430]

@@TurnAWoodBowl I just want to say thank you for replying to questions. a lot of KZbin presenters don't take time to answer questions and I very much appreciate it.

[@SidneyWeaver-w8z]

😢😮

[@lindsayhowe204]

Lindsay H. Tree to bowl

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Thanks for entering! Happy Turning!

[@georgecorreia1169]

Kent, I have to pass on something regarding sharpening using the One Way system. I must confess that I have not taken your sharpening course but instead watched several KZbin videos on how to make the micro bevel grind or bottom feeder as some call it. DO NOT use the One Way system arm to make a 45 degree or more cutting edge. In fact, I now think the arm with pocket should never be used to put the bowl gouge handle into. To me this is like trying to turn wood with no tool rest. There is no support of the tool at the grinding wheel. I tried the arm method which is shown on many KZbin videos. The gouge slipped down my perfect CBN wheel and gouged the heck out of my wheel before throwing the tool back past me. I'll never use the arm again with a tool handle in the pocket. This can be very dangerous and destructive to the grinding wheel and to the person holding the tool. The platform rest is the only way that I will go in the future to make micro bevels. I will only use the arm to hold the Vari-grind attachment. Thank you for your videos since they are always very informative. I think it is time to take your sharpening course!

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

George, Thank you for writing and sharing! No, I do not recommend here or in my course, using the v-arm pocket to hold the tool handle. Something in my gut has always said, "that doesn't look safe." And it's essentially a pinch-point. Thanks again for sharing. Happy Turning!

[@georgecorreia1169]

I just registered for your Sharpening course.

[@georgecorreia1169]

@@TurnAWoodBowl Kent, I took your sharpening course and it was excellent! Your teaching technique is so straight forward and easy to understand. Well, I sharpened my micro bevel as you taught and used it on a bowl today. What a great tool! It cuts beautifully. What a dream that is for the bottom of bowls. Thank you for all of your bowl turning and sharpening wisdom!

[@haroldgolden5437]

I think you are misapplying the term "micro bevel." Watch any video on sharpening knives, chisels, or plane blades and you will see. A "micro" bevel is different from simply grinding the heel off a bevel. You would be more accurate to call this a traditional grind with the heel shortened. And the bottom feeder gouge has been well documented.

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

Harold, thanks for sharing. However, we're not talking about other knives, chisels, or planes. The bevel on this gouge is 1/3 to 1/5 the size of a regular bowl gouge bevel, therefore I call it a micro-bevel. Tomato, tomatoe. I understand your point. Thanks again.

[@unclemonty9506]

I told my girlfriend I had a micro bevel gouge. It didn't work out 😒

[@TurnAWoodBowl]

LOL ;)