Lumix G9ii vs OM1ii video is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIe1c2mpjb55d8Usi=S58_NR4iQmsab_k-
@jimcoon Жыл бұрын
I’m 70 yrs old and just ordered the G9II - actually for shooting video for my real estate business. I am a farm and ranch broker. Listening to you is like listening to my daughter teach me all about the camera. I can’t thank you enough for your time and talent. I will have subscribed and I learned a great deal. Jim in Oregon
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Jim! I think the g9ii would be perfect for that!
@DarkTrapStudio6 ай бұрын
Hey Jim :) How as it been ? Just ordered a GX80 myself today as my first camera, but Id like to get a G9II if Im making serious work/money later
@jimcoon6 ай бұрын
@@DarkTrapStudio Heym, Dark Trap! I have used Lumix cameras since the GH3 for video. Still use my GH5 all the time. I love the G9II for the open gate and the great codecs and frame rates that I can record to SSD. But, since we aren’t using these cameras to make movies for the big screen, I bet you will love the GX80! The biggest issue is just getting out and creating. The editing is 1/2 the battle. Let me know how you like your new camera!
@DarkTrapStudio6 ай бұрын
@@jimcoon I love colorimetry, Ive learn with BlackMagic Design free courses and my dad was a graphic designer, also Ive learn all the basics with Studio Binger (Best KZbin Cinema Channel, outstanding leesons there) and I have very good results shooting manual wich I prefer for photos, Ive already learn that great edit come from great photo so I really have no problem with it. Im craving a Mitakon Speedmaster lens right now as the next step for hybrid video/photo shooting. (my GX80 come with 12-32 and 45-100 F3.5 decent kit lens) I will let you know thanks a lot I really appreciate your wholesomeness.
@richardg3335 Жыл бұрын
Great review. A few things though that needed attention. The OM1 uses a new stacked 20MP sensor. It has a 80MP tripod mode. It's IP53 rated. It will shoot at 120fps with auto focus locked. It's EVF is 5.76k vs 3.68k. It has live time, starry sky AF and built in live ND filters. You should be able to set the focus area as you want, like you did with the G9 MK2 as my em1 MK3 does. And in all your tests the G9 was using dual IS, where none of your lenses would do that with the OM1. This will also apply to the focus speeds, as certain lenses focus faster than others. Try the 12-100mm IS F4, it's brilliant. The prices here in Australia are exactly the same at $3299 body only. But OM systems have sales all the time, making it cheaper. Saying all that I now think that the G9 MK2 is the better camera, which means that the OM1 will be discounted even more soon, hopefully.
@ShinyTechThings Жыл бұрын
The algorithm knew I *REALLY* wanted to see this so it showed up as the first video recommended to me. Since your last video I've been anticipating this release. Thanks for making this.
@jimblues21 Жыл бұрын
As a Olympus/OM shooter I think this is great and well done Panasonic with this new camera, feels like family to me as both systems can use the same lenses and I love that, Micro Four Thirds is the winner here and long live this format
@nndoorgaans Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparision. The launch of the G9II is a significant boost for the m43 community. Recently, I've made a full transition back from Sony FF to m43. Virtually everything you can do with Fullframe can also be achieved with m43, but with less weight (which becomes increasingly important as you get older) and less intimidating to the surroundings. The video quality of the GH6 is impressive and fantastic to work with. However, compact and yet excellent cameras like the GX9 are pleasant companions for a day out. Naturally, the G9II (with its much-improved AF) is on my wishlist, along with the highly underrated OM5 from OM systems (420 grams). The latter camera is a hybrid marvel when it comes to both photo and video (4K and 120 FPS HD) in a small and lightweight body. Try capturing a handheld video with panning using a Sony (e.g., the zv1 or the a7c); it's quite challenging. The OM5 can do it, and, of course, the G9II can as well. Hopefully, Panasonic will continue to innovate and soon release a GX9 mkII and/or a G90 mkII.
@toke75605 ай бұрын
I find the biggest draw are the superb small lenses.
@jacquesgiard69435 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@cameralabs Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparisons and demos Emily, you nailed it! Did you notice if the stacked sensor on the Om1 made much difference for skewing in video or electronic bursts over the G9II?
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Gordon! 😁🙌
@artieshokin Жыл бұрын
Master has spoken :) btw. I chose my feed camera based on review from Gordon. It was 14 years ago where did the time went…
@cameralabs Жыл бұрын
interesting...@mipmipmipmipmip
@cameralabs Жыл бұрын
@@artieshokin it's quite alarming where the time went! I'm still here, plugging away though!
@JayFrandsen Жыл бұрын
The OM-1 sensor readout speed is approximately 7.4 milliseconds and the G9ii is likely 17.8 milliseconds since the G9ii uses a tweaked GH6 image sensor. You are correct that the OM-1's stacked back-side illuminated sensor could potentially read out faster than 8 milliseconds, but they chose to have a quad pixel auto focus system that essentially has 4 auto focus pixels for each actual photo pixel, thus the sensor has to scan 80 megapixels worth of data instead of 20 megapixels @mipmipmipmipmip
@seanb480 Жыл бұрын
Your BIF breakdowns were so excellent. This really helped me understand how great the AF is on the G9ii and hopefully with OM-1 some firmware updates to help it catch up!
@seanparlan Жыл бұрын
Wow, the woodpecker footage and pre-burst, I never thought I'd be drooling over m43 again
@zee196 Жыл бұрын
i hope they include this mode on Fullframe S1 or S1R mark 2 when it release
@007silverwings Жыл бұрын
Wish they could bring this to the S5II too.
@zee196 Жыл бұрын
@@007silverwings sensor is not fast enough for that
@gregfeeler6910 Жыл бұрын
This is a very good review of the G9II and comparison with the OM-1 - the best I've seen, so thank you! Still, there are some things you might address in a future expanded video. You left out the features exclusive to the OM-1 like Live ND and Starry Sky AF, and the additional Live Compensation modes. Also, just to be specific, the OM-1 EVF has 5.76 million dots whereas the G9II has 3.68, so the OM-1 has 56% more, and the OM-1 is rated at IP53 weatherproofing (and has same rated lenses) whereas Lumix does not claim any recognized testing rating for the G9II or it's lenses. Perhaps in another video you can discuss the relative merits of the OM-1 stacked sensor vs. the slightly larger non-stacked G9II sensor. Having said all that, as an Olympus/OM System person and OM-1 owner, I'm thrilled about the advancements in the G9II, not just relative to the G9/GH6 but also for the MFT system overall. Now, there are two amazing MFT flagship bodies for a fraction of the price of the high-end FF bodies, most of which still don't have all the features of the G9II or OM-1. Taken all together, the case for MFT vs. larger formats continues to get stronger. Again, thank you for an excellent review.
11 ай бұрын
You are a sage.
@michaelkanger13552 ай бұрын
👌
@ImageMaven Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison Emily. And thanks for testing things that many people don’t. As for noise comparison in raw files, I hold the opinion that it is best to use jpgs for that as you’re also testing the camera processing of those high ISO situations - even without extra noise reduction. So I’m actually glad you used jpgs for that test. (And I rarely shoot raw files anymore.)
@shardanette1 Жыл бұрын
I was hoping we'd see a g9II video from you as well.
@ImageMaven Жыл бұрын
@@shardanette1 I am not blessed with that kind of early access to Lumix gear. I completely trust Emily to give us the honest goods. I will have to wait until it arrives for sale in Canada. And then of course, decide if it’s for me. (Who am I kidding, of course I want one.) 😂
@shardanette1 Жыл бұрын
@@ImageMaven Well, that's Panasonic's mistake.
@rjohnbernales Жыл бұрын
G9 mark 2 all the way. I’m currently shooting Olympus,but I think I’ll be giving Lumix alot of consideration next time I get a new camera 🤩
@patrickbenthamradley Жыл бұрын
Great and natural review with very good comparisons young lady ! That information about the burst modes was indipensible ! Finally got all the information I needed to jump up and grab my piggy bank , smash it and go out and invest in the G9-2. Thanks so much. Keep up the good work!
@eelco6587 Жыл бұрын
Hi Emily, Great comparison! As a OM-1 user I can confirm that there is a possibility to add a wide horizontal or vertical AF target boxes. Go to the AF menu, 5 AF settings and operations Settings. Then AF target mode settings. Here you can create your custom target area. There are 4 custom slots available.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Aaah fantastic thank you! That'll come in very handy this week on safari!
@corycanon Жыл бұрын
The OM1 allows you to create a long, thin rectangular autofocus area. Either horizontal or vertical. Just like what you did with the Panasonic.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
It does! I'm sorry for that mistake- olympus menus thwarted me again haha because it wasn't in the main place and not an option when cycling through I assumed it didn't have it. I am so happy it does!!! It'll be super handy for safari this coming week 😁
@21upbowls9 ай бұрын
Once again misleading
@KevinLing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison review! This is an excellent matchup. I'd be interested to see how the rolling shutters compare for still images of fast moving objects.
@normstangl3499 Жыл бұрын
A great balanced review! It’ll be very interesting to see what the future for m43 holds. Clearly worth the long wait for the Mark II. Until I absolutely can’t do without, I’ll be happily shooting on my EM1 Mk III. M43 is a shockingly underrated system.
@crimlarksSteve Жыл бұрын
I will also be shooting on my EM1 Mk III for a while. For the type of shooting I do with it (mainly travel) it's a great camera. I also have a Pen F that I love and will never sell. So much to like about M43.
@Centauri27 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree! But as long as we have all these Canikon and Sony FF fanboys and KZbinrs beating on the "small" sensor, it'll continue to be a tough slog.
@paulcrisp8423 Жыл бұрын
Emily, glad you pointed out the OM-1's limitations with high speed burst mode. As the owner of expensive Pana Leica glass, it is very frustrating that they are limited to 25 FPS. This seems to be purely an OM System software decision, as you point out, all lenses function at 60 FPS on the G9II. Come on OM System, release a firmware update to remove these limitations!
@MJGOLDHEART Жыл бұрын
I didn't even realiise this on the OM1 regarding the speed burst mode
@veikop Жыл бұрын
To me there is two different m43 systems and it suck😂 there is always a some sort of limitations and only few mention them.
@stevemurnan1702 Жыл бұрын
How do you know this is a 'software decision by OMS'?
@neildeakin44546 ай бұрын
@@stevemurnan1702 Because the electronic shutter is in the body not the lens?
@fuzzywuzzy8874 Жыл бұрын
well done!!! I do hope OMDS is watching and listening to this video (OM-1 fw update time). - you can make custom AF Target groups with the OM-1. so, you could make an AF Target group similar to G9II's depticed in the video (one or two [or three or four] rows wide and covering the screen left to right).
@007silverwings Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this early comparison 👍🏻 The stabilisation on the G9II looks incredible. It's good on the OM-1, but it was significantly better on the G9II.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Yes! That was my conclusion with so much of these tests! The OM1 is amazing... the g9ii is just somehow taking it all even further!
@007silverwings Жыл бұрын
@@MicroFourNerdsDo you have any way of testing the RAW HDMI output from the G9II? Atomos recorder for example. Would love to know what it supports; 10/12 bit RAW and 120fps etc... Thanks
@chrisbrown6432 Жыл бұрын
Well done for this comparison. So detailed. Thank you.
@misha4422 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the informative comparisons. I have a G9 “mark 1“ and love it. I don’t really need another camera, right now, but the G9MarkII is calling to me.
@NoName-rg3np Жыл бұрын
That G92 footage looks amazing!
@joshc717 Жыл бұрын
The OM-1 Does have the ability to create a custom focus box any size you want. You can create 4 custom options
@prabhakarrao4922 Жыл бұрын
Excellent very professional side by side comparison of two of the top cameras in the M43 system. I wish to express my sincere thanks to OM system & Panasonic for keeping the M43 system going. I absolutely love the M43. I gave up on my FF almost overnight after using the Lumix G9 on a field trip. the results out of this camera was astonishing to say the least. I parted with my canon 5D mk IV in a heartbeat and have never even felt the remotest desire to go back to FF. We now have the G9, OM1 & GH5s in our family and we love them all, the 5s for video, G9 for all things travel and the OM1 for BIF. Thanks once again Emily
@blinkimagefilms7038 Жыл бұрын
Your review of this camera the Panasonic G9ii is so impressive and amazing, keep up the good work.
@michaelpopel7186 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. You very well described the current issues with the OM-1 Autofocus. Although it identifies and focusses birds very well, it sometimes still focusses on other things in the picture. Looks like panasonic cought up here very well. Now it is up to OM-Systems to take the next step. I'm looking forward to the next bigger firmware-update for the OM-1
@DavZell Жыл бұрын
Regarding FPS, the OM-1 has two modes, and you only mentioned one. In SH1, it can do 120 fps, with any lens, but not continuous focus/exposure. In SH2, which you mentioned, it drops to 50 fps, has continuous AF and exposure, and limits the lenses.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Yeah the g9ii has the same, I'm not interested in the locked focus modes personally, but they're level pegged either way in that respect 😊
@thetoyota86perspective54 Жыл бұрын
What's the point of having 120fps if it's not continuous? The whole point of burst modes is to capture moving subjects like in sports photography which is what I mainly do
@POVwithRC Жыл бұрын
She did your OM a favour not mentioning it
@DavZell Жыл бұрын
@@thetoyota86perspective54 Sports, like capturing a golf swing? How about group portraiture when trying to get everyone with the best eyes and expressions? Maybe catching the best shot of a wave or other water feature/fountain? Maybe playing around with other forms motion capture (not sure that's the right term, but capturing a series of shots as an event occurs, like something being hit, drops of something going into another pool/container of liquid, etc). Really anything that benefits from fast sequential image capture that doesn't have a lot of distance variation, especially if 120fps provides better results in comparison to 50/60 fps.
@DavZell Жыл бұрын
@@POVwithRC See my response to the Toyota guy. (Also, I'm way past measuring my self worth by length of my monopod. Maybe keep the snark to yourself. Most of us here have perfectly good cameras.)
@FredrickII Жыл бұрын
Oh to be young again. I just bought the OM-1 and this video calls it “slightly older now.” A year and a half ago when the OM-1 came out I was the same old man I am today. That camera is an amazing marvel of technology.
@mattfowlerkc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! How are you recording the viewfinder live like that?
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
I bought a cheap external monitor that can record the screen tk a micro sd. It's a terrible monitor but fabulous to help demo things!
@mattfowlerkc Жыл бұрын
@@MicroFourNerds that's a great idea. I might have to try that sometime.
@TheHudsonValleyWanderer Жыл бұрын
As a landscape photographer who hates tripods that handheld 100 megapixel mode of the G9ii sounds quite delicious.
@bitsandblocks7826 Жыл бұрын
Amazing comparison Emily. You obviously put in an awful lot of research and work putting this together and it shows. Thank you and I hope this video finds the large audience it deserves.
@prabhakarrao4922 Жыл бұрын
Second that
@mediamannaman Жыл бұрын
We would expect the latest model to perform a bit better, but the G9 MII is waaay out in front here. You did some fantastic work in putting this video together. Thanks!
@robertmills4591 Жыл бұрын
Watch Red35's video on this as a few errors were made in these tests, for example comparing the G9II duel-IS to the OM-1s body-only IS with a non-stabilised lens (tbf Emily has commented on Red35's video to say she hadn't realised she'd made this mistake), OM-1 actually has more focus area options (not fewer), and as Red23 has shown, focus acquisition does not appear to be any slower on the OM-1 if you set it up correctly. Still, I do think this is a good video and I am keen to see Emily's follow-up video I believe she is making on safari in Kenya.
@georgemahlum6542 Жыл бұрын
Super review!!! My former fav Panasonic body was/is the GX9...I now use EP3...EPL8...and EPL9 mini bodies for my M43 gear...But... I have been looking at the G9 II...At 70 yrs young... I have decided to go solely with M43 gear ...slowly trading out my Canon and Sony gear...(I have had M43 gear continuously since the EP1 and EPL1 came out)...
@keithnaylor6280 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Just a simple comparison. At last an upgrade way overdue to the G9. I really like the presentation. Spec for the G9 make it worthwhile for me without having to get new lenses. I shall be looking for a sensible bundle as soon as I can pre order. Just won't be available in time for a trip to Petra in November. Thanks
@alandimery3379 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thanks. I have the OM-1. I think the biggest omission with the lumix is that they do not have any serious tele lenses. The oly 300mm for instance, is awesome. But I shall be looking at thuscseriously as a second body. To go with my oly lenses. And even add the Leica 100 400 (which is a but contradictory of myself) great to have them both in the stable.
@sasori-inoshishi6 ай бұрын
Fantastic explanation and demonstration!
@throughtanlens Жыл бұрын
Welldone with the comparison video.. It's what i've been waiting for this video..❤❤
@jiffijoff9780 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Do you have any plans on comparing the dynamic range of both? Thx!
@moisescugat394810 ай бұрын
you can find that in photons to photos. It would be very interesting to understand the huge sacrifice in dynamic range that the Pana sensor has when using Electronic Shooter
@stephenfox5133 Жыл бұрын
Great work (and appreciated)👏. Feel free to do more head-head comparisons of these 2,.. consumers looking at high end m43 will be choosing between them.
@JonnyWhitlam Жыл бұрын
Great job, thank you! I was considering buying an OM1 until this video.
@charlesmingo3459 Жыл бұрын
The big advantage of in-camera focus stacking (even to JPEG) over post-processing is that you can discover whether your focus-bracket will actually stack when you're still in the field, so you know when it's safe to stop shooting.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
That's a great point I never thought about it like that
@bjnslc Жыл бұрын
I don't know how reliable the Olympus stack processing is, but in the G9 the in-camera can produce artifacts on a perfectly fine stack series. I don't bother using the feature...especially since in the G9 that's limited to 6K images.
@A2Z1Two3 Жыл бұрын
@@bjnslcMaybe the G9II will be checked out for ‘artifacts’ by one of the reviewers .
@bjnslc Жыл бұрын
I don't think the G9 II processes stacks in-camera like the G9 can. The artifacts come from stack processing failings. @@A2Z1Two3
@nickcrispe1321 Жыл бұрын
This is very useful, thanks! I'm working with a new OM-1 and happy with it for wildlife, mostly because the 300mm F4 telephoto is so good. But Panasonic is so welcoming to Zuiko and OM lenses, which raises the (premature!) question of the next upgrade. As long as I can keep that superb 300mm F4 lens.
@Sarcastek Жыл бұрын
I get it you're a Lumix fan, but parts of this review are a tad misleading re the OM-1, eg. re the AF targeting boxes (around 6:49 in), the OM-1 allows user created custom shaped boxes to be used, I have a narrow horizontal one on the OM-1 just as you showed being used on the G9II.
@Stv_creates Жыл бұрын
No mention of the stacked sensor and no chance of rolling shutter ?
@danny_r27 Жыл бұрын
How would the dynamic range be compared to the old G9? And is there actually a noticeable difference in resolution with lenses like the Leica 8-18mm that’s lacking in sharpness around the edges? I want to be interested in this camera but the detail compared to my old Leica SL from 2015. Do you think it’s worth it? I have a decent lens lineup: Olympus 12-40mm, Leica 8-18mm, Leica 25mm II, Leica 42.5 1.2, and Leica 15mm 1.7
@paulthomas8986 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic specs and performance on the G9II. Would love to see an updated GX85 now. Still love using the Live ND in the Olympus. The shadows are so clean when you process the raw files.
@whereismylife Жыл бұрын
the GX85's unofficial successor is the Gx9, and I would love an update. My go to camera and I love it. With PDAF i could shoot a wedding using it with the 15mm f/1.7, the 25-50mm f/1.7 & oly 75mm f/1.8
@flamezphotograpyhanif2199 Жыл бұрын
@@whereismylife❤
@tizio54 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison Emily and it's good to see strong competition in the MFT market. It will be interesting to see what the final firmware version can do, and of course future firmware updates. I wonder though, in general, why video performance gets such strong emphasis. I understand that it's very important to (professional) filmmakers and KZbinrs, but what percentage of people who buy these cameras use their cameras mostly for serious video work vs. serious photography. I'd be interested in some statistics about this.
@gregm6894 Жыл бұрын
Right now the OM System 'wild card' is related to the lenses for wildlife. Both the 300mm f/4 Pro and the 150-400mm f/4.5 pro offer Synch IS on the OM-1, but they will not have that when used with the G9ii. Maybe the G9ii IBIS will make that a non-issue, but that remains to be seen.
@AndrewMuspratt-u5i Жыл бұрын
Just for information I believe your " Kestrel " scaring the woodpecker was in fact a Sparrowhawk and the woodpecker had every reason to be scared of it !!! As an Olympus Pen F user well done on an excellent comparison ... but I still want the OM1 when my inheritance arrives !!!
@yaupie Жыл бұрын
I would consider the biggest competitor of OM1 is G9ii and vice versa so thanks a lot for taking the effort and time to do the comparison. But note that if G9ii can't combine photos (of different focuses) in camera, it can't be stated as supporting focus stacking. The correct saying should be it supports focus bracketing but not focus stacking.
@mikeyc7072 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant review!! I own a G9 and a Nikon D850 - lusting after G9II. You are so right about the buffer✅ It is really annoying that Dual IS does not work cross platform - I could use that for my Olympus PRO lenses on my G9 body. My fantasy setup is Olympus 150-400mm with G9II - really need Dual IS for that to work!! -->I have evolved to shooting in Manual Mode with Auto ISO - Exposure Compensation adjusts ISO. All of which requires 3 dials on the Camera. G9 has 3, OM1 does not.
@ankera7460 Жыл бұрын
i was hoping someone makes 2 cameras comparison.. nice review 👍
@hikerdude10 Жыл бұрын
I'm a long time subscriber and thoroughly enjoy the channel content and your upbeat and cheerful presentation style. That being said, your videos on the G9II have sounded as much like adverts for Panasonic as they have reviews. Respectfully, I think that in the interest of credibility and transparency, you (and all YT presenters) should begin these video reviews by explaining your business relationship, if any, with the company in question. ie. are you given, loaned or did you pay for the equipment you review and/or has the company paid for any travel associated with the product launch. I'm a long time Lumix user (including the OG G9 since 2018) and was prepared to order the G9II immediately, that is until I saw the body design (I will provide those thoughts in a later comment). Please take these comments as positive suggestions, I really do enjoy your content.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Sure, that's totally understandable!! To be clear, lumix have not given me the g9ii, it's loaned for a couple of weeks, and they haven't paid me to say anything (never have!). I'm not an ambassador just an excited camera nerd. I've bought the om1 with my own money. I really don't care either way which camera is better - I own the om1 so I'm really happy at how well it stacks up, even though it's a bit "older". I'm sorry if anything has come off as an advertisement, it's just uncanny how much this new g9ii has ticked a lot of my boxes. If it was smaller it would literally be perfect in my eyes!
@hikerdude10 Жыл бұрын
@@MicroFourNerds Thanks for taking the time to respond and clarify Emily. Actually my concern with the G9II body is not about size, it's that they did not stay with the existing G9 body and simply change the internals. As an existing G9 user I'm disappointed that an upgrade to a G9II means investing in new batteries, a new L-bracket and new battery grip as well. IMHO based on what I have seen so far, the OG G9 looks better and, except for the the joy stick, seems to be functionally better (ie. top LCD, function lever and slightly better EVF). Also, I think Panasonic really missed and opportunity by not including the GH6 flip out/flip down and back LCD in the G9II. That would have been great addition. I'll be looking forward to more detailed comparisons of the IQ and Dynamic Range with the OG G9. As a landscape/nature photographer that is what is most important to me, and from what I have seen in other reviews the improvements don't seem to massive. Again, thank you for your reply, I looked forward to you future videos.
@simplyawesomephoto Жыл бұрын
Are all the photo features like burst mode at 60 fps, post focus and focus stacking still images from a 6k video file? If so, the OM-1 would definitely be a better photo camera.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
No they're all raw files with continuous auto focus.
@simplyawesomephoto Жыл бұрын
I love what you have shown of the G9 II and will most likely be adding it to my kit. The one con of the huge buffer and 60fps vs the OM-1 is the time to clear the buffer. Duade Paton found that the G9II took 53 seconds with the fastest SD card to clear the 200 shots in the buffer. The OM-1 took 9 seconds to clear 152 images. For a wildlife photographer, that would be an eternity as the G9II locks up camera functions when clearing the buffer so the photographer has to wait for a minute or use a secondary camera. I am not sure how fast the buffer will clear for photos if writing to a fast external SSD. I do wish Panasonic would have included two of the OM-1 features in this camera - the simulated ND filter and the composited stacked photo image. Everything else seems to be in the G9II's favor when it comes to photography and video. This is not a knock on your video as I think it is well made a you have included an in-depth review of all the functions. As you did not have time to review every possible questions your viewers would ask, I am just adding a comment here and there as I find out some limitations of the camera before would be buyers hand over their cash. This may be a deal breaker for some wildlife photographers if Panasonic is unable to come up with a solution in firmware like slowing down the frame rate while the images are being written to the card.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Thats a really good point! I watched that video last night actually and thought the video was fantastic and really helpful! I think the slower write speed is annoying for sure. But I will also say having just got back from safari (which is hammering 10fps mostly, rather than the faster burst modes) I had no problems at all. I don't think I hit the buffer once on either camera. During a bird hide session, if you had a lot of action to capture at once, then it would definitely be more of a problem 100%.
@simplyawesomephoto Жыл бұрын
@@MicroFourNerds I'm looking forward to any video you make about your trip. I hope all went well and you had a great time.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
@@simplyawesomephoto the current edit is 27 minutes long 😅🤣
@simplyawesomephoto Жыл бұрын
@@MicroFourNerds I know 27 minutes doesn't help the algorithms but I watch your videos while I'm on the treadmill and enjoy the lengthier videos.
@robertfrank9168 Жыл бұрын
Having an OM-1 for almost a year I am very satisfied with the OM-1 and I am sure I dont want to switch for the following reasons: 1. I do not make a lot filming. What I like though is slow motion and the G9II slow lotion capability is imoressive. 2. I don't need the superior burst mode capabilities. 10fps is for me enough. Selection of the best picture of a burst shot series on camera monitor is not effective, I need a computer monitor but I don't want to look at hundreds of pictures. 3. Pre burst of 0.5s is enough for me. I never missed a critical take off 4. I love the in camera focus stacking of the OM-1. 5. I love the stary sky auto focus of the OM-1. That was a game changer for my astro photography. 6. High res with pixel shift is limited to still photography. I use this not often. Could be better, though. 7. Native ISO up to 25600 is very helpful for me because my main field is bird photography and wild life in general. I found that up to ISO12800 I can use the pictures if I denoise with Topaz AI Denoise. So even if I would switch to a new mft system it would be a hard decision. As one comment pointed out I have the feeling that both cameras complement each other very well. And the G9II will strengthen the mft market! 👍
@wturri78 Жыл бұрын
A great review! It will be interesting to see how Panasonic markets the G9ii, as OM's marketing has been almost entirely focused toward wildlife, birding and macro photographers. They've given a strong impression that they're only usable for that. The fact that the OM-1's bird and animal tracking got a big update from the older bodies, but their human eye/face tracking is still mediocre, just reinforces the impression that OM is all-in with birders and hikers. My old G9 was more reliable in tracking faces 3 years ago than OM-1 is now, although until Panasonic finally included PDAF, the actual AF system wasn't good enough to stick with the faces it was tracking. I sold my G9 in late 2022 and got an OM-1 and I'm overall quite happy with it. I've never needed a burst rate higher than 20 fps, so the fact that these cameras can do 25, 50 and 60 doesn't really matter much to me :) If I hadn't already sold the G9 for the OM-1, I'd be selling it now and going for the G9ii, especially for its improved human subject tracking. I use an MFT camera as a second body alongside Canon full frame when I shoot weddings and events, and Canon has really spoiled me when it comes to keeping faces in focus! I'm about to take my OM-1 on a 6 day hiking adventure in Grand Teton nat'l park in Wyoming, with my 8-25 f/4 wide angle and the Panasonic 50-200 f/2.8-4 telephoto and I expect it will perform brilliantly all around! I don't think the G9ii's advantages are significant enough for me to consider switching brands again, but I do hope it spurs OM to release some firmware updates that make their human subject tracking competitive!
@mdragon99 Жыл бұрын
I love your focus tracking tests! I'm a prehistoric stills shooter and I'm finally starting to figure out what the fuss is about. But a thought came to me that if I was doing this test with myself "What if it doesn't think I'm human?"
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
It was so funny watching both cameras lose their minds when I was shooting an ant eater- they couldn't figure out what was the eye 😂
@danielnyman1070 Жыл бұрын
Something I didn't notice in the review is comparisons of rolling shutter. Om1 is a stacked sensor that reads out much faster than the g9ii. This enables much more reliable electronic shooting for fast moving subjects like birds.
@Wildridefilms Жыл бұрын
The rolling shutter readout speeds are 12ms on the G9II and 8ms in the OM1. Not a huge difference
@stevemurnan1702 Жыл бұрын
@@Wildridefilms 4ms makes a huge difference. Take a look at Gordon Laing's video. The rolling shutter of the G9II is very noticeable.
@VynZography Жыл бұрын
Great review! Like I said on Pav's review this tech would be awesome when it trickles down to a G90-like body 👍
@janpedersen8987 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and fair trial of excellent cameras. As a birder I would point out though that the "kestrel" after 7:30 is in fact a nice sparrowhawk male that do tend to chase through gardens to snatch a bird. Kestrels less so, and more on mice in the open fields. Looking out for the G9ii in the future. Thanks.
@miki_marker Жыл бұрын
So not new s5ii 6k cause you want crop x2 and more speed?
@janpedersen8987 Жыл бұрын
@@miki_marker I only commented on the ID of the raptor in the sequence. And don't quite get the meaning of your question?
@johnjon1823 Жыл бұрын
That was probably the most useful and best review for my purposes that I have seen for the new G9 anywhere, and I do mean anywhere else. Well done, good efforts into this video are obvious and required work on your part. Excellent! My wish is that they had smaller versions of RAW file output. As someone who uses the G9 for real estate I blend the images via enfuse and they are great but unnecessarily large. The GH3 did only 16 megapixel RAW and that was closer to the mark for my needs. Even then, 12 would be more than enough. Now with 25 megapixel it would be nice to offer several RAW sizes to choose from. Fuji has the same problem. My Canon equipment lets me choose RAW size output and that is a big deal. I mean you can do nice work on 8 megapixels. It depends on if you need to crop. God bless!
@marcohoedt5876 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review, I am looking for an upgrade of my OM-D E-M10 Mark IV.
@GoonieGooGoo910 Жыл бұрын
8-25/4 Pro does not have lens IS. So test was IBIS only for OM-1 vs Dual IS for the PL12-60.
@wierzasty Жыл бұрын
Why no rolling shutter test?
@JensMHA Жыл бұрын
Smashing stuff and b...dy fast turnaround, Emily! Am still not regretting buying the OM-1, or the somewhat swap from Lumix to Oly, but as of now the M43 community is spoilt for choice in the high end. I am curious as to what trickles down to the OM-10, (hopefully) the GX10 and how the G9MkII pricepoint may influence the OM-1 pricing.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
That's exactly my attitude too - can't really go wrong with either of them! The om1 is super impressive and I hope both brands trickle down all these epic updates into the smaller cameras bodies! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@jasonpalmer2497 Жыл бұрын
Best preview todate on KZbin thanks 😊 🙏
@GlenBarnett Жыл бұрын
What a superb review! I’m not even a MFT shooter but your thorough testing is excellent Brilliant 👍
@J-Young_photography7 ай бұрын
One think Lumix has done right was with its 25MP sensor, the extra 5MP helps with cropping for birding.
@lsh-zi2lc7 ай бұрын
less noise also.
@ValiRossi Жыл бұрын
Great review. This is the G9 people will really want. I have an EM1 Mkii and the OM1 isn't a big enough upgrade for me. The G9 would be. This thing will sell.
@robbyvillabona Жыл бұрын
The remark on 6:58 is incorrect. You have the ability to create custom AF area shapes in OM-1, including a wide vertical or horizontal AF area.
@GaryPallett Жыл бұрын
Just about to post the same… thanks 👍
@RyougiVector Жыл бұрын
Is the OM-1 stabilization actually on in the wider shots? It looks like it's turned off. I've gotten smoother footage on my E-M1ii without as many jitters. The E-M1X and I think the E-M1iii had custom AF box sizes beyond the basic 3x3 and 5x5. I would assume the OM-1 has them too. Olympus C-AF has had C-AF sensitivity settings for awhile, and I imagine the OM-1 also has them. Going to +1 or +2 would probably make it snappier.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
It is on in camera, but the only oly stock lens I own is the 8-25mm f4 Pro, which I thought had stabilisation but doesn't. So it's half a stop unfair without dual I.S. - as fair as I could make it with what I have
@RyougiVector Жыл бұрын
@@MicroFourNerdsI've used the same lens on my E-M1ii and E-M1x and I don't get footage that jittery with the uncropped mode without e-stab at 8mm. Wobbly corners yeah, but not jitter.
@RyougiVector Жыл бұрын
also sorry I like to update my comments as I read them and I added a couple more questions after my stabilization one
@h.e.verheijden8083 Жыл бұрын
😊At 6:50 you can costumize the AF box also in the OM-1
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
You can! I'm sorry for that mistake, however its just a typical olympus thing that that customisation mode is hidden in the menus! Because it wasn't an option when I cycled through the main options I assumed that was all available. I am so happy it does have it though it'll be super handy for safari!!
@martin_the_artist_ Жыл бұрын
Camera looks great, but I REALLY need to see some raw files on how much shadow & highlight recovery is improved before I make a desicion. No reviewer has done that yet... is there a reason for this?
@christill Жыл бұрын
You can set a custom autofocus horizontal box on the OM-1 to be clear.
@jasonp2906 Жыл бұрын
Great review! I really like what Panasonic has done with the G9 and not cripple the video features at all. On the other hand, is the stabilization of the OM-1 that bad? I don't remember it this bad when walking from other reviews.
@nndoorgaans Жыл бұрын
The stabilization in the OM1 is not bad, but very good. G9 II might be a little bit better. However, the G9 is also a bit heavier and bulkier.
@stuartriley Жыл бұрын
Emily, Brilliant demonstration and content! I have the older cameras of Panasonic and Olympus systems (but not OMS), and I will probably upgrade to the newer Lumix G9MkII based on your work. I am curious of what you think of the FF Lumix S5II in comparison of the G9MkII. Thank you once again for all your hard work and honest comments.
@Aviciiz Жыл бұрын
Was the real world AF test shot in V-log? What profile was used on the OM1? Because I am surprised how much more I like the colours from that OM1! Looks much more organic and smooth.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
So which do you prefer?
@pablo-fotoprzygoda Жыл бұрын
Om-1 💪
@007silverwings Жыл бұрын
Thinking the G9II at this stage, but I'm already a G9 user!
@petepictures Жыл бұрын
Lumix of course. I am curious of how it will focus with the older 4/3 lenses, adapted, I have quite a few of them still.
@007silverwings Жыл бұрын
@@petepictures yeah, this will be interesting to see. The focusing of course is done by the camera, so I'm hoping the older or adapted lenses work just as well as the new ones.
@barteksegar Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your work :) As for the AF boxes, they are fully customisable and same box as you showed on G9 II is available for OM-1 and any other configuration desired as well. So it is not all "bigger and bigger" boxes ;)
@actionimagesphotography Жыл бұрын
Well done! Thanks for the testing.
@samanafkhami2792 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. That is the comparison I was looking for. Especially the face detection on the OM-1 feels underwhelming. And your video shows how much better the G9II is. I don't shoot animals. Available light scenes with a lot of portraits are most important to me. I like about the OM-1 that it's smaller (yes, the few mm are a lot to me). And the stacked sensor makes the electronic shutter so good that I don't need ND filters anymore for my f1.2 lenses during the day. But Panasonic just has the better AF software. OM System has failed in delivering appropriate software for their great camera. Even my Olympus E-PL10 feels more confident when detecting faces. And there have been no significant updates to the OM-1 since firmware 1.3. Lowering AF sensitivity does improve performance though. The 25MP are not so relevant for me but are a real upgrade. Let's see what to do when I can hold the G9II in my hands later this year. Actually, I don't feel like changing cameras...
@RonaldBrown59 Жыл бұрын
The new G92 looks great. Thanks for this first look and comparison.
@kathypirok-klein34136 ай бұрын
I have been using the Panasonic G9 for about the last 3-4 years. I did test out both Olympus and Panasonic before making the choice of the G9 back then because I liked the top screen and buttons for WB, ISO, and +/- comp. On the Olympus I did like seeing in the Meta data where my focus point was in the photo. I only do photos so I am back to these two again as I plan to upgrade. Now, I am back comparing the 2 again. The OM built in ND might be a plus if it works well. I lose my top screen of settings on the new G9II which I find helpful. There was a learning curve using focus points in my old cannon and going over to LUMIX G9 focus area options. Have you done a video comparing the focusing options on both the LUMIX and OM? I have never found good extensive explanation of when to use the focus options for different subjects on the G9 except when it’s an animal or a person. Do you find the focusing easier on the G9II or the new OM?
@alamin-fr8rc Жыл бұрын
Thank you, you’re fast becoming my favorite camera reviewer with your entertaining style and in depth real life comparisons. I started with the em 10 Mk ii as my first foray into learning photography. Such a good camera and a great instructor Robb Trek on how to get the most out of it. Now I’m excited to take the next step and want to buy a camera I don’t have to even think about upgrading for years to come. My main concern is size as the em 10 ii was the perfect travel camera. Looks like upgrading is going to mean a larger, heavier camera. I was leaning toward the OM 1 or OM 5 but The Lumix G9 ii looks like it’s going to be IT. I am an amateur into 90% photography ( birds, wildlife, landscape and hopefully astro soon and only 10% video. Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
@miki_marker Жыл бұрын
Weird question but why not try someday something crazy stuff like M1 mark2 in city rentals
@LookatBowen8 ай бұрын
Will you be doing a comparison between the OM-1 Mark II versus the Panasonic G9II?
@charliemorrison1370 Жыл бұрын
That was a sparrowhawk, so the great spotted had a good reason to hot foot it out of there! Impressive stuff and great video. Your channel has been the best G9ii KZbin content by far.
@soumyamukherji Жыл бұрын
I think you opened & closed on the right note; It's a great time to be a part of the m43 system. When Pana came up the L-mount I thought they would abandon m43 to focus mainly on FF and prove certain KZbin channels correct...MFT is dying. Few observations from me as an intermediate/hobbyist shooter having shot with both systems (EM1's /OM1 & G9) 1. I love the material used in the Panasonic camera grips and the matte black color ❤ 2. 3.6K vs. 5.7 K dot EVF is quite a difference. I think you would notice it more than a difference in LCD resolution. I appreciate a more detailed EVF when shooting vintage lenses on m43. 3. The image stabilization on G9 mkii looks superb. OM1 might be able to make focusing more sticky and accurate via firmware update but I don't think they can match up with the Pana's IS 4. Computational modes like Live ND and Live Composite are super useful on my EM1's and opens up a whole new world. 5. Olympus lenses have always been more difficult to procure in the used market (in India) and generally more expensive than Lumix lenses. So I've always ended up using Pana lenses on Olympus bodies. It would be great if Olympus allowed better compatibility with Pana lenses and vice-versa. In recent times both companies seem to have a step-brotherly attitude towards one another. 😵💫 6. Regarding the use of 2X tele converter on the lumix 100 - 400 wouldn't it push the f stop to f 12 = f6.3 × 2 How usable would it be with relation to shutter speed/ISO? Anyways I'm happy that the MFT system is still rocking!!
@waynealejo Жыл бұрын
Please do AF tests with adapted EF lenses on a Speedbooster 🙏🏽
@GoTravelPlanet Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video Emily, thank you very much as usual
@prasannaramaswamy852 Жыл бұрын
tx for this and its detailed one- one query - is the G9ii has a stronger pink tone than OM1, especially those autofocus shots - your cheeks looks strong pink tone, but in OM1 it was looking normal - do you have any point on that
@gabormarko2861 Жыл бұрын
On OM-1 you can set up 4 custom target modes (focus boxes), horizontal and vertical too. You even can set up their length and width. Rob Trek has a good tutorial about it.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
I'll check that out thank you! I'm taking the om1 on safari with me this week and that'll be super handy! Why isn't it with the other modes 😂🙈
@houserhythm Жыл бұрын
@@MicroFourNerds it is in the same place as the other modes, but the custom modes have their checkboxes unchecked, to not show up when cycling modes when they haven't been defined. Go in the menu, define a shape you like, check its box and it'll show up in the same place as the standard focus areas.
@johanankarback6821 Жыл бұрын
I was just going to comment that too. I´m using the custom mode on my OM1and has made a horizontal area just like you show on the G9II. Works great for bird photography.
@geraldbraun6267 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good over view of the two cameras. If I had to pick one it would be the OM-1 just because it has features that I think that I would use. They are both fantastic cameras, but I will not be buying either for now( not in my budget ).
@paulcrisp8423 Жыл бұрын
Just thought yiu did miss the line ND feature that is available on the OM-1. G9II does not have an equivilant to that included. The Pro-Capture feature does also allow more that 0.5 of a second in pre-burst too. It allows you to select the number of frames, upto 70, which will determine how long it is based on frame rate.
@hansforsstrom5772 Жыл бұрын
Quite right, and 70 shots is pretty much equal to 1,5 seconds. However the buffer limits kicks in sooner when choosing a high number of preburst shots.
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Yes I really should have clarified that you're spot on! I was comparing highest frame rate to buffer size for the time 0.5 time
@21upbowls9 ай бұрын
Misleading again, funny how you are always accurate with the panny
@Sheeno101 Жыл бұрын
Although I agree that the G9 ii is the better choice for most people, I've just purchased a used OM-1 even after the G9 ii being announced. There are some reasons to choose it over the G9 ii, although some are quite niche: - I think it's the better choice for macro photography, particularly of moving subjects and/or extreme macro. It can use a flash with electronic shutter, up to 1/100th shutter speed, which none of the Panasonic cameras so far have been able to do and so I assume the G9 ii can't either (although it would be great to have it confirmed). It can even do this with focus bracketing. The focus bracketing is typically much faster on Olympus/OM devices than Panasonic too (again I would love to know if this has changed). Not only that, but the Olympus 90mm 3.5 macro is one of the best macro lenses ever, and the OM has Sync IS with it. - The OM-1 also has a better complement of computational photography modes. Live Bulb/Time, Starry Sky AF, Live ND - all have their uses and could sway people who do long exposure or astrophotography - There are other advantages of the OM-1's stacked sensor - the main one for me being the reduced rolling shutter - Finally, you can pick up an OM-1 used for a good price if you're patient - it'll be a good 18 months before G9 iis are being resold at these prices Overall I'd say that from a photography perspective, the G9 ii seems to do most things a little better than the OM-1 (although the OM-1 is also very good at them), but there are a few features the OM-1 has that the G9 ii doesn't have at all. It's a different story if you include video where the G9 ii can do many things the OM-1 can't though!
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
Very good write up! That oly 90mm macro is insane!
@kevinharding9361 Жыл бұрын
It's those computational modes : Live Bulb/Time, Starry Sky AF, Live ND & Composites (which of course the G9ii can also take) which has me selling off half my Sony gear (I'm keeping my A7r5!!) to fund a M43 kit (OM1 and 5-6 lenses). I'm looking to see if the G9ii can also handle them - if not I'm afraid that rules it out for me (though I'd love that video capability) ! I should add that I especially wanted the OM1 (and to hire the 150-400/4.5) for safaris (having used Sony A9 + A7r5 + 200-600 on the last).
@shot87 Жыл бұрын
Alright, if Lumix made a rangefinder style GX8II based on G9II internals, I'd have to pull the trigger. But for now, my OM1 does everything I need. But I'd love a smaller daily carry that does everything and has LUT for custom look on the go.
@c.augustin Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 25 MP resolution this camera would have … this is what makes me look very hard in the direction of Lumix (as an Olympus user) …
@sabymondal Жыл бұрын
Great review!
@jamesloop Жыл бұрын
I like that they’re using the same body as the s5ii for swapping cages and accessories. I’d like to see that happen to the gh/s1 lines too. I know the gh6 is big for mft (and I love it’s size) but I doubt they’d be able to use the gh6 body for the s1hii just based off how big the current s1h body is…but my dream is to see identical bodies for the gh7/s1hii based on the gh6 body (with independently lockable dials)
@itsmealex9290 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great comparison of this two bodies! Currently I shoot with the E-M1 III. It seems to be, that both bodies would be a step forward for me. I’m highly invest in Olympus glass. I’m a bit afraid that my glass won’t work with the Panasonic body like with a OM Systems on. Could you give a advice? Thanks a lot 🙏 Greetings from Germany Alex PS: sorry for my bad English
@MicroFourNerds Жыл бұрын
You would lose and lens only stabilisation, and I think there are always benefits to keeping to the same brand. That being said I absolutely love the olympuz 40-150mm 2.8 and use it a lot on the g9ii/gh6 and it works totally fine!
@itsmealex9290 Жыл бұрын
@@MicroFourNerds Thank you for your reply! The 40-150mm is a great lens👍 But it is a non IS Lens. What do you think about the Olympus 300mm f/4 with IS?