Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 | 6DOF DIY Departed Reality platform | C310R in VR with Varjo Aero

Departed Reality 6DOF DIY motion platform website:
departedrealit...
You can download my .mover file for the Milviz C310R from FlyPT Online files Open Shared setup. Still modifying it a bit.
Name: MSFS2020 - Cessna 310R

[@punchthedog]

Which was cheaper, the rig or the divorce? :)

[@calvrsimer]

Still very happily married! : )

[@cdrseabee]

The story goes....hey it keeps me from drinking and chasing women!

[@Krashulka]

😆😅🤣😂

[@AriesSupertramp]

@@cdrseabee gotta keep that in mind.

[@Dontknowyet80]

@@calvrsimer my rig is not as impressive BUT my wife is always supportive and comes up with ideas to add to our sim rig! Some people just don’t get it,marry the right one!! Lol nice set up!

[@postandfly]

This is the dream!

[@hexago-motion1454]

Nice to see the platform pitch up when you added full thrust at 7:00. Also the rolling in and out of turns and the rudder input looked plausible!

[@brin57]

Nice to see a rig using opposite lean to simulate the centrifigal forces. I never understood why so many car and flight sims lean into the turn. Doesn't make sense.

[@nolakillabeast]

Started this sim too, wife walks in on my all the time, so she always asks where we are flying today, than pats my head like a good dog whilst smiling with lots compassion. That motherly look she gives you that makes you reflect on all your life choices. 🤣

[@HenryMPHone]

Excellent setup and probably the best way to feel like in a Cessna. I had a 3DOF system and I was happy with it until I went into a 172S.

[@dmanm85]

Very cool! Whenever i see one of these, I think of the guy "JP" in the movie grandmas boy lol.

[@Jacobes16]

Wife just walked in on me watching this, instantly said no. What a setup mate!

[@tahirballikaya213]

😂😂

[@Blackbirdsims]

Nice plane!!!! And a REALLY nice RIG!!!!

[@calvrsimer]

The combo of the two, for some reason, feels perfect! Thanks for this amazing airplane add-on! Best of GA aviation in MSFS2020 so far IMO and for my taste!

[@departedreality]

Nice work! This really shows what a realistic flight trainer is like

[@SimonAmazingClarke]

What I like the look of is the smoothness of operation. Some car ones are too harsh in their movements.

[@markustairov4547]

omg that´s so nice. i had testing FS2020 with my VR Glasses and this feeling was nice but my pc is too slow to use them permanently. You have made a good job with your hardware equipment.

[@simwirx]

I want. Nice setup man!

[@iljajekimov4997]

Simply the best! That was Tina Turner singing about! XD

[@idegteke]

Samir....You're breaking the simulator!!!

[@pethell448]

Nice Machine, it would be nice to see it in action with the F/A-18 Hornet. :D

[@calvrsimer]

Check out this video, if you’re interested, HexaGo-motion explains why those type of motion rigs are suitable for low to med performance aircraft rather than high perf aircraft! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZzJaKxogZujors

[@pethell448]

@@calvrsimer Ah nice to know, thanks!

[@Daniele858585]

@@calvrsimer we need somenting faster for dcs and racing simulators then

[@iljajekimov4997]

Preparr to say hello to your new neck and back muscles ;)

[@calvrsimer]

@@Daniele858585 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKevfIaje7CVgaM

[@MySpecialBirds]

One more question! Where can I find the FlyPT Online files Open Shared setup? Im using the FlyPT but I don't know where is the share files...

[@planeguy_0577]

I'm looking at building a 6DOF sim, what software did you use? What software do you recommend? Did you make the software yourself? Thanks in advance!

[@calvrsimer]

FlyPT

[@planeguy_0577]

@@calvrsimer Great, thanks

[@Daeva83B]

Cool! Just skimmed through your video, you probably said it somewhere in the vid, sorry about that. anyway.. When the rig moves, what about the headset? I mean it registers your movement, therefore.. you go up/down/turn left/right in VR as well or not? Not being fixed to the seat of your rig, but relative to the height/position of your headset and floor/room?

[@calvrsimer]

To avoid what you’re describing, sliding inside the virtual cockpit as the rig moves, we’re using an app that allows for MOTION COMPENSATION. You can see a virtual tracker just above my head to the left, which work with the app to keep me from moving inside the virtual cockpit. Any motion platform coupled with VR would be unusable without MC!

[@ChuxDiaz]

I would get absolutely baked and fly for hours

[@calvrsimer]

That’s exactly what I do : )

[@ChuxDiaz]

@@calvrsimer 👌

[@UOTCbassist]

@@calvrsimer my man! 👏

[@itsmuldoon22]

😂😂😂😂 so lucky!!!!!

[@avi8r66]

Nice work, and loving how quiet the servos are, but what's the clicking sound as they extend and retract?

[@calvrsimer]

The belts snapping against the pulleys, still not broken in, the snapping will eventually stop overtime!

[@midnight7297]

cool rig - just trying to research this DepartedReality myself at the moment. My original idea jumped from being buying the DoFReality, to the SFX100, SFX150 and then variations on this one. I'm a little confused to the quoted price of $8-10k though, when the SFX100 appears to be around £2k (so say up to $3k). Ok there are 2 more actuators of course, but not sure why else the big price jump (but admittedly I still have a lot to learn (unless you're including PC, screens, VR and everything?)

[@calvrsimer]

Your question or any other questions you might have will be best answered by Speegles (the DIY project creator), so for that reason I am inviting you to join his Discord channel (link can be found on the DR website), if you’re really interested! I don’t want to go into too many details, but you CAN NOT compare the SFX100 or 150 kit with the DR actuators meant for a Stewart platform. There are 6 actuators needed (obviously) and they are much longer, you also need additional components required for a 6DOF platform build! I can assure you for having build the platform myself the price estimate is totally fair! I went for DR-DIY-PS600-90ST project (you could reduce the cost with a DR-DIY-PS400-80ST)and the total cost was $11,000 without the cockpit chassis. The majority of components you need are sold by companies other than DR! aka AliExpress, 80/20 (quite expensive), THANOS (controller) and McMaster-Carr! At the time I did it, roughly March 2020, it cost me $1500 just in shipping cost for all the components required! I only bought 3 essential parts from the DR website: 12 end pivots, 1 emergency stop box, and 1 PDU with build-in EMI filter! So 90% of the cost is not DR related! There are no comparison between a 3DOF vs a 6DOF system! I use to have 3DOF system before and the sensations you’re getting with a 6DOF system are absolutely unattainable with a 3DOF! It will be almost a year now that I have had my platform, I use it everyday, it’s an amazing machine, the entertainment value is incredible, and there is not one penny I regret putting into it! If you can go with the DR platform, 100% success guaranteed with amazing help from Speegles, he’ll make sure you are successful with your project! Food for thoughts! Hope this help! : )

[@Sirmellowman]

so freaking cool

[@romansloh2407]

hi, did you build this thing,or you bought some of the equiment( im asking for my boyfriend, hes a total psychopath of flying, trying to get him a superurise for his birthday)

[@calvrsimer]

You have to build it yourself including 3D printing your own parts. You have to buy everything yourself up to the nuts and blots. This is a 2-3months long and a very involved process!

[@danibogo]

If i had this I would have to say good bye to my friends (have none ) and family

[@stevenmacdonald9619]

You have twenty seconds to comply! Anyone younger than 30 is like WTF dude 🤣

[@Sandboxcode]

Awesome rig for sure 👍

[@VliegerNL]

Beautiful setup! Bravo!

[@elpepelucho]

the most amazing part of all this is that your wife allowed it!

[@drewer757]

I'd buy one. Although I did work with a 6dof supplier who developed a level D sim for us, so my standards would be high! :)

[@mrsako7223]

Coolest setup i have ever seen

[@marcd5132]

Very nice!

[@punkkap]

This is some dedication. Those don't seem like hydraulic actuators, but electric, on the base. Am I correct? edit:nvm, saw you got a video on those. Awesome stuff!

[@calvrsimer]

Those actuators are driven belt with 90ST-M02439 electric motors. So yes, you’re correct!

[@rinzler9775]

Would have liked to have seen him do the low level Maverick Top Gun challenge with this.

[@RockinTheDub]

Since his rig is bolted into the floor, going inverted flips the whole house upside down

[@maxables1748]

Really spectacular build. How much coding did you do for the motion translation?

[@calvrsimer]

None! Ther are motion cues software available that uses the game's motion data to drive the motors servos. The one I'm using in the video is Flypt Mover. You just have to learn how to properly setup the motion cues. There is a bit of a steep learning curve to that effect, but still much simpler than coding yourself. For such DIY project no need to know coding.

[@davegrundgeiger9063]

This is fantastic! Well done!

[@tronicgr]

Nice!! Good job! 👍

[@julianhall2008]

Loving your setup,

[@lObOtrOnz]

Haha YUSSS!! Very Noiiiice! Love the landing move. Well done amigo! :)

[@calvrsimer]

Merci mon Capitaine 💪😎🤓😁

[@fabiobertelli]

Oh my God!!! Thank you for share with us!!!

[@TokyoToysTV]

Wow thanks for making this video, looks amazing. How much does the motion rig cost in terms of all the parts? Would love to build one.

[@calvrsimer]

It’s an $8k to $10K budget for the platform. Check out the Departed reality website, link in the description. At the very bottom right of the home page there is a link to the Discord channel, join and introduce yourself to Speegles, the master mind behind the design of this platform and go from there!

[@TokyoToysTV]

From start to finish. How long did the main rig take to build?

[@calvrsimer]

@@TokyoToysTV 2-3months

[@ignacio8617]

Amazing! Congratulations!

[@speedexperience1011]

really amazing Setup dude. how did you setup the motion compensation with the Varjo Aero? I currently can't use the full potention of my rig because of not knowing how the to the correct setup. i see you have a vive tracker. is there an option in steamvr or how does it work? would be great to get a feedback. thanks in advance.

[@calvrsimer]

You need to install OVRMC for SteamVR Here is the website: ovrmc.dschadu.de/ Everything is explained there. You should also join the OpenVR-MotionCompensation Discord channel, you’ll get all the help you need there! To get to the Discord channel, once in the OVRMC home page, in the left column click on contact and you will be taken to a link to the Discord channel.

[@speedexperience1011]

@@calvrsimer this is why i love KZbin. Many many thanks man 🙏🙏🙏.

[@liquidintegrity]

This is totally sick!!

[@MySpecialBirds]

Hi, congratulations! Nice setup! I have the 6Dof, and my problem now is with cancelation motion to flight VR. Are you using it?

[@calvrsimer]

Yes, and as you can see on the vid, I have a vive tracker just above my head to my left. I use OVRMC add-on for SteamVR, works really well with the tracker and my 2 base stations V1. ovrmc.dschadu.de/ and Join the Discord: discord.gg/mnZwjgM2

[@MySpecialBirds]

@@calvrsimer Thank you so much!

[@yellowboat8773]

This is something else. Instead of say 20 lessons you could kit this out and possibly shorten the time needed to get practice in flying. Only thing I'd say is that in the air the movements are a lot more dramatic especially in a little 172 than this. I suppose you could crank it up a little?

[@calvrsimer]

Yes, you’re right! I’m in the process of replacing 3D printed pulleys to aluminum one, then we’ll shake that thing properly! : ) Also know that when sitting on the platform immersed in VR the movements you feel are a LOT MORE dramatic than they appear visually on the vid! Next vid you might see me with a seatbelt on! : )

[@neilward5968]

About as exciting as watching grass grow !

[@calvrsimer]

Yep, sorry! I had a few similar comments like yours and I get it! The problem with those type of vids, is you can’t really appreciate them until you build one of those rig or are deeply involved in that hobby yourself! Hope you didn’t stay too long with it! : )

[@TokyoToysTV]

I notice you have another Motion Rig in the video "Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 - Motion Sim from MotionGear 4UN in VR with the Varjo Aero", lets refer to this as "F1". Studying videos and comparing your Hexopod style vs your "F1" style, and many other 6OF ver of the F1 style.... visually it seems the hexopod style can not bank as deeply as the F1 style? Hence for flight sim maybe theres less sensation of banking in turns? In flgiht sims i notice the Hexopod seems to do a great job of giving the sensation of the aircraft rasing and dropping in turubance. Doe the F1 do as good as a job, clearly its 600mm vs 200mm. Would you kindly rate the hexopod out of 10 for Racing Sims and Flight Sims, vs the "F1" style? I love flight sims and would love to know the pros and cons of each system. Thank you :D

[@calvrsimer]

There is no comparison between my old 3DOF (F1) you saw and my new 6DOF. My 6DOF is just in a different league of its own. The range in banking is far greater than the F1. I just have setup my bank turns in the 6DOF in a way that doesn’t use much roll at all (initiating banking with a small roll, then washout to roll in opposite direction to simulate centrifugal forces while banking), that’s why it seems there is little banking mov, but actually the sensation is great. The performances of the platform shown in the video are probably using 1/3 of the overall platform potential in range in all 6 axis!

[@TokyoToysTV]

@@calvrsimer Wow only 1/3rd movment! When does it use the full motion or have you limited it for comfort? Is this rig good for racing gmes too? Also whats the footprint of the base? You have been so helpful :)

[@calvrsimer]

@@TokyoToysTVThis a big and very powerful machine, although it is use as a toy, it certainly isn’t one! This is also new territory for me, so for safety reason I have restricted the motion of the platform. The enjoyment for flying is still amazing, the 6DOF is amazing and allows to create physical sensations you can’t achieve with 3DOF. Yes, 6DOF platform is very suited for sim racing as well, you just don’t need as big of a platform as the one I have! I only use this rig for flight simulation!

[@calvrsimer]

You should go and check the Departed Reality website. Study it, just don’t glance at it. They implemented a table with different dimensions and footprints. Join the DR Discord and you can ask questions there. Everybody is really nice there. If anything it will be very educational for you to follow the different threads and see what kind of issues and questions people are having and asking!

[@ImaN0ob7777-h]

Awesome

[@starsloyalist]

ugh...life is so unfair! nice rig.

[@captsonko.9345]

E jesus this is fantastic.

[@tomdchi12]

Can you induce spatial disorientation flying into IMC?

[@calvrsimer]

I don’t see why not!

[@hidekinguyen]

Do you know how many watts its uses per hr so i can work out the cost of running it for say a 2hr vr session?

[@calvrsimer]

No I don’t, sorry!

[@laurentarchambault1297]

Juste magnifique

[@xcq7222]

I would love to have something like that. Btw how long did it take you to build that whole thing?

[@calvrsimer]

3 months. Check out: departedreality.com/

[@xcq7222]

@@calvrsimer I would love to have something like that but I'm too lazy to assemble it myself 😂

[@calvrsimer]

@@xcq7222 It certainly takes a great amount of dedication, passion and patience!

[@iljajekimov4997]

Check out DOF REALITY

[@RobertGeez]

You need a bass shaker too.

[@calvrsimer]

I have Buttkickers but don’t use them on the sim. Their vibrations are messing up the motion compensation tracking for VR. Would I use the sim with the monitor sure no problem, but I am only using VR!

[@dariroch]

I'm not even this committed to my wife, lmao. (just kidding honey)(but not really)

[@cdubs9918]

Good on him for the dedication and all....but tbh with a rig like that I wouldnt fly a cessna. Fly a F35 or F22 or even a Spitfire or Mustang.

[@andyydna5330]

Wow where can I buy it. And could you pleased tell me whats the max height of this system? 👍😃

[@calvrsimer]

Answer in the KZbin description just below the video! Bottom to top of monitor when heave is at its max 7.7feet, the ball screw are 750mm in length, you can always go with shorter ball screws!

[@jmarcl089]

OMG I really want experience this!

[@Matt-zc1qs]

Wow

[@friendhui4320]

Awesome Totally Awesome 😎

[@gavinallen6867]

I have a Gleim BATD at home , I will love to convert to something like this. How do I built some thing like this are where do I get it to buy?

[@calvrsimer]

It’s written in the KZbin description underneath the vid: departedreality.com

[@SunnySzetoSz2000]

you should add a fan in front of the set

[@calvrsimer]

I have one on the side, you just can’t see it in the vid! : )

[@massistorosyan7042]

Does the tilt of the rig affect the tilt of the view in game?

[@calvrsimer]

No. To avoid this issue we have to use Motion Compensation. Flying VR with a motion system without MC is impossible! Without MC you would slide all over the virtual cockpit, you would even be taking outside of the plane in a high degree bank turn!

[@jonpayne6812]

Hello, do you still have your torture rack and cooling gear sitting around?

[@calvrsimer]

No, it’s been long time gone! I did 2 water cooled systems, after that I got lazy and it was a nightmare to upgrade each time! Back to normal rig now! It was fun for a while though! : )

[@jonpayne6812]

@@calvrsimer shoot man. Love the rig. Would love to get something like that together. Looking for those reservoirs too.

[@shoreserenity]

Amazing Setup! What would be the load limit for a setup like yours?

[@calvrsimer]

The actuators are capable of moving over 1000 lbs

[@TokyoToysTV]

Hi can you give me the link o the cockpit you use for this rig. Thanks1

[@calvrsimer]

I designed the cockpit in fusion to make it suitable for flight siming, but was greatly inspired by the P1-X from SimLab: sim-lab.eu/shop/product/p1-x-sim-racing-cockpit-533#attr=323,498,434

[@MrBestvirginia]

"BrEaKiNg" Loooll, what exactly broke?

[@joeglennaz]

Wow where can I buy one?

[@calvrsimer]

departedreality.com

[@GScrubb181]

Wouldn't fancy crashing in it. 😆

[@sns7743]

How much did this whole setup cost?

[@AriesSupertramp]

So.. how much did the whole setup cost? if I may ask..

[@calvrsimer]

8k-10k

[@CrazyGunNoob]

So am I understanding this correctly? The parts are pretty much all 3d printed? I looked at their website and got even more confused lol

[@calvrsimer]

For the actuators only, yes! There are 13 parts to print per actuators. You have to buy from different online stores, the motor(6) which include its own servo and cables, the ball screw(6), the FK12 square nut(6), the extrusion profiles and all the hardware such as bolts, nuts, etc. From the departed Reality store, you have to get the end pivot set(12) This is only for the actuators. The Departed Reality store is pretty clear IMO, if I did it you certainly can. It just takes time, you won't get it just by giving it a quick glance!

[@CrazyGunNoob]

@@calvrsimer Hey thanks for the reply! Yeah I basically just looked and was confused because I didn't see servos and all the other stuff that goes along with it. I guess I figured they would just have a whole kit available. I'm slow sometimes lmao

[@thiagogomes9833]

congrats on the project. could you show us about the code behind?

[@calvrsimer]

Not sure I understand what you’re asking. On my part there is no code involved. I use the Thanos controller and FlyPT Mover to control the platform!

[@calvrsimer]

Not sure I understand what you’re asking. On my part there is no code involved. I use the Thanos controller and FlyPT Mover to control the platform!

[@calvrsimer]

Not sure I understand what you’re asking. On my part there is no code involved. I use the Thanos controller and FlyPT Mover to control the platform!

[@Mr.Popcat]

how much does this thing cost?

[@Animation-my8ug]

waaaooooo!!!

[@47guitartom]

I'd like to build this. How do I get the plans? How should I get started?

[@calvrsimer]

Visit the Departed reality website, link in the description up above! Once on the home page go at the very bottom right and join the Discord channel, introduce yourself to Speegles an go from there!

[@Saltcodnewfie]

WOOOOOOW, what on earth does the motion rack cost,

[@calvrsimer]

$8k-$10k

[@cmdrdempster9794]

Am looking to get a 6dof platform soon Owatch one for msfs2020

[@cmdrdempster9794]

Try using fxrealistic pro with ur setup make a vid with that running please

[@DeceLatina]

How much did this cost you? now I might have to put this together

[@calvrsimer]

It’s an $8k to $10K budget for the platform. Check out the Departed reality website, link in the description. At the very bottom right of the home page there is a link to the Discord channel, join and introduce yourself to Speegles, the master mind behind the design of this platform and go from there!

[@robomatt101]

Do you think something like this could get FAA certified for simulator training? Great set-up BTW!

[@calvrsimer]

Don’t know what the requirements are but my guess would be, it’s probably not very far at all. I know my yoke (FFB: force feedback) is certified for FNTP (Flight and navigation Pilot Training) Level I. I would need to switch my rudders peripheral to the same standards. I don’t know how VR is rated for pilot training. The platform would probably pass the qualification standards!

[@JakeHarris2828]

How much did this cost

[@godlovechannel]

New sub ~ Liked ! See you

[@ulbuilder]

This is what happens when your wife won't let ya build a real airplane.

[@saintmartinchristophe3526]

Looping !!!!

[@lobsterdam]

How does one exit this rig?

how much money should i save for this?

[@calvrsimer]

$8k-$10k for the platform

[@xaviernavarrozarazaga4400]

cost of everything?

[@a-fl-man640]

braking? hopefully not breaking

[@calvrsimer]

It was already published when I saw it, couldn’t see it when I did my spellcheck! : )

[@BALLOOROOM]

Hammock povo rig

[@SnoDawg]

So how will you explain your injuries at the ER when it all collapses.

[@calvrsimer]

That machine is so sturdy it will never collapse, but it could easily eject me against one of my wall! : )

[@320Bogdan]

This is the way!

[@eastcoastsailingcenter7768]

good bye life....

[@SimUKReviews]

That Sir, is a thing of beauty. Do you perhaps have an engineering background?

[@calvrsimer]

Zero engineering bkg, but the person who designed the platform does, check out his website Departed Reality, the link is in the description!

[@SimUKReviews]

@@calvrsimer many thanks!

Lets have that insane rig, so i can drive a fucking cessna. duh

[@alexc8920]

wow…

[@philly3834]

What if you crash and you forget you are in your living room O_O scary af lmao

[@axelvdp1]

Now add this setup to a big and fast elevator and simulate positive and negative G-forces 😂

[@TheHexperience]

How much do you charge per hour? ;) Awesome!