This looks like a rushed product just like Orbx's London Scenery was. Get it out the door ASAP after the main MSFS launch to cash in on being one of the very first add-on aircraft and patch later. Thanks for the honest review, Q8! So much to look forward to in the coming years, though. The ending was a perfect summation, "This is the Carenado...I'm not sure what it's doing now" 😂
@Topcat19524 жыл бұрын
Agree with you. They wanted to be first and gave up the requisite quality checks before pulling it out the door. I had hoped MS would thoroughly check and test everything they are going to put in the Marketplace. Apparently, that is not going to be done so we all must take the risk whether we are getting a good product or not. I really had hoped MS would only offer add-ons that were fully vetted before release.
@wollaminfaetter4 жыл бұрын
As does this review: A rushed product to be the first.
@captainzeppos3 жыл бұрын
"This is the Carenado...I'm not sure what it's doing now" ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL that was an epic quote and an epic comment.
@flytobi78344 жыл бұрын
Starting the Aircraft is not a BUG! You need to select the Fueltank from OFF to BOTH ez. :D And first you would select the Standby Battery to ARM position in real.
@smurphy19774 жыл бұрын
It is a bug.. why is it he can shut off the aircraft and do the same thing and this time it starts?
@oleandreasen4 жыл бұрын
@@smurphy1977 Perhaps because when using Ctrl-E the Fueltank goes to BOTH - then stays on BOTH when he just shuts off the engine - so it will start correctly when he starts it again.
@flytobi78344 жыл бұрын
@@oleandreasen exactt! :)
@stoobydootoo40984 жыл бұрын
@@flytobi7834 My thoughts exactly. As soon as the engine didn't start, I thought 'Has he switched the fuel on?' Because last week, I saw a vid by a real world USN pilot having problems trying to start the default C172, & I guessed he hadn't done that. After 3 attempts, it dawned on him. But, he'd nearly drained the battery by that stage! So, Ctrl E does more than 1 task. But what I thought the issue may have been is this - I've had payware a/c for FS9, & FSX. The official advice for 2 packages were that you should start the Sim in Engines on config, THEN close them down & restart (if you must). Must be for technical reasons. Certainly for PMDG's Jetstream 41, this was the case. Whenever I did otherwise, I'd often get glitches. It didn't even like you starting from a Saved Flight!
@dietermoser51824 жыл бұрын
the error sits in front of the screen :D
@DCTSheindo4 жыл бұрын
That moment when you see that a default plane has better quality than a payware... Well, that's why I am waiting for A2A to release their planes
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
I am with you there, A2A in MSFS should be something special. Can't wait!
@mro94664 жыл бұрын
Aerostar ! can't wait
@JohnMichaelson4 жыл бұрын
AMEN. There is no reason to buy anything A2A makes from any other company. Carenado only gets my look these days when literally no one else has done a specific plane. Plus I'm sick to death of Garmin cockpits now. I want more dials.
@AA-tz2bm4 жыл бұрын
John Michaelson I think you suffer from a gauge deficiency and hyper Garmia
@JohnMichaelson4 жыл бұрын
@@AA-tz2bm Absolutely! I spent as much time just watching those A2A engine panel gauges react to changing conditions as I did the scenery for days in the beginning. The Stratocruiser was heaven.
@fsuksim4 жыл бұрын
I was particularly interested in this review. Many thanks for doing it. I love your reviews and commentary. Same ol' Carenado, so they will not get my money. This was a perfect opportunity for Carenado to re-invent themselves given the much enhanced flight modelling relative to FSX/P3D and also sound capability , systems.
@OZ19674 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest opinion and not being afraid to speak truth, rare occasion these days,
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for recognizing this my friend, and for watching the video!
@1BassJohn4 жыл бұрын
I'll second this statement. No matter how many wonderful sim channels are out there.. I always come back to Q8Pilot's channel as I know that it will be a true review. That's the way to build trust and a name in your brand name. Awesome stuff.
@sksupply4 жыл бұрын
The engine sounds like Atari speed racer if I am remembering the game correctly. Really bad. Thanks.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. It is a typical Carenado aircraft.
@JohnMichaelson4 жыл бұрын
It literally sounds like my garbage disposal running with nothing in it.
@ThorNjord4 жыл бұрын
Horrible sound.
@1BassJohn4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnMichaelson What a terrible thing to say... about your garbage disposal unit... ;) lol It's probably more useful than this Carenado aircraft too..
@JohnMichaelson4 жыл бұрын
@@1BassJohn 😄 The previous owners of this place apparently fed it one too many forks and the blade is slightly imbalanced. Still more useful, though, you're correct!
@keimahane4 жыл бұрын
Carenado has really become a real money grab company, I have not been impressed by any of their a/c for sometime.
@mro94664 жыл бұрын
they make my favorite planes (Beech 18, Falcon 50) but yeah, they are trash, what a shame, such great 3d models paired with ultra basic systems ...
@Topcat19524 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The last ones they put out for X-Plane were really lackluster (e.g. Piper Malibu Meridian).
@codym72993 жыл бұрын
U can always download a pirated copy of the plane as a demo before you buy it, thats what i do
@ftd19493 жыл бұрын
You mean like Microsoft? Releasing a product that isn't close to Beta?
@Waltzyy3 жыл бұрын
@@codym7299 Where do you download pirated planes?
@viccabrales30914 жыл бұрын
Another great review with honest feedback. A lot of my purchases are influenced by quality reviews like yours. Thanks for the great work.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for kind words.
@Justathought814 жыл бұрын
Carenado, Carenado never changes
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
I am with you there.
@deeleyer4 жыл бұрын
(read with Ron Pearlman's voice)
@mro94664 жыл бұрын
someone grab their 3d models and make study level addons !
@giebby3694 жыл бұрын
The review I was waiting for. I had Carenado products before in Xp11 and was hoping msfs was going to be their chance to reinvent their brand. For being the first payware aircraft and the first on the ingame marketplace it surely is a hunk of junk. I am quite surprised that this passed QA to go into production. Carenado up to their old tricks again... but who knows we might get a REP pack. ;)
@oad514 жыл бұрын
Waiting for Just Flight's Piper series. Really liked their PA28 Arrow in FSW.
@fish_birb4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to check the fuel selector lever on the pedestal on the cold and dark startup? I think that might've been set to OFF in the C&D state. But anyways, thanks for the review!
@gunlovingliberal17064 жыл бұрын
Woops. I made the same comment without reading down far enough.
@westsideav4 жыл бұрын
Good review, thanks. I bought the 182 as well. And there are some things I like about it. First it is a more complex plane than the 172 and you should be using the cowl flaps (open climbing and takeoff, closed decending and in most cruise) you also have to manage throttle to set manifold pressure (28" or less in cruise and climb after 1 minute) also prop RPM needs management. I enjoy doing these things as I used to fly 182's and owned a 177 for 10 years. It also is a more capable plane than the 172, shorter takeoffs and much better climb rate makes it a good bush plane. It is a work horse of a plane. I have managed to get the AP and G1000 to function very well. Doing complete IFR procedures, with changes such as direct to with no problems, i don't know why others have problems with this. I have found stalls to be a bit to benign, very little wing drop. But this changes if you change to a far back CG, as it does in the real plane. Over all I usually am not that fond of Carenado planes though they look good. This one is no exception, but at this point I like this plane the best of all available in MSFS 2020. Probably because it is similar to planes I fly in reality a lot. So I am happy with the purchase, but I am sure there will be many better planes in a while. Thanks again for your honest review, I just have a slightly different opinion.
@raya.20412 жыл бұрын
were you able to buy this in the Basic version of Microsoft Flight Simulator? Or did you have to own a more upscale version to access this plane?
@supertyfon17364 жыл бұрын
People may claim that most of the planes they make aren't the greatest but that wont stop me from getting them. I seen at least 90% of the planes they made in real life for 11 years before i moved.
@androidfarmer88634 жыл бұрын
Finally! - I was waiting for ANOTHER GA plane with a glass cockpit. Bravo, Carenado.
@bobcardone74373 жыл бұрын
For starting up, have you tried running the fuel pump first with mixture off, until you see fuel pressure. Then shut off pump, hit starter and it should start, As soon as it starts, set mixture to rich. As far as controls, set your aileron, rudder, and elevator sens to - 50 and try it again.
@prattpt64 жыл бұрын
You need to turn on fuel valve, alt v then you can start the 182 manually
@kevinmccandless49154 жыл бұрын
When starting in cold and dark for the first time ensure you press ALT+V (fuel cut-off) before starting the engine. This will alleviate having to press CTRL+E Thanks for the excellent review.
@deeleyer4 жыл бұрын
Honest review, thank you!
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ryantttt4 жыл бұрын
Try this throtle to 1/4 mixture all the way back switch fuel pump on 3secs then off then crank the eng and slowly push mixture in while cranking.also try on left tank or right.poh of the cessna
@juliashenandoah39653 жыл бұрын
Is any plug-in planned to watch MP4 movies on the secondary flight display while flying when the navigation system is not needed? Imagine having the synthetic scenery vision switched on on the left screen and MacGyver episodes running on the right screen! Has anyone ever thought about how awesome this idea would be? Why should only passengers of airliners be able to watch movies while flying? The interior of this machine is so beautyful and not the same as all Cessnas but almost cozy and living-room-alike with the soft seats and the beautyful design elements inside, there are beautyfully moddeled seat belts and the door and windows can be opened. The usual superb Carenado quality :)
@PowerAirSimulations4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video, I wish i would have seen this before i made this purchase. I purchased on day one and noticed all of these issues. I never fly this aircraft anymore and to see that the stock aircraft have more options and fly much better than something that i had to purchase seems more to me like a cash grab in my opinion. I think ill wait for you to do these reviews in the future before purchasing anything else. Thanks Q8Pilot.
@0x80O0oOverfl0w4 жыл бұрын
Try priming the engine with the fuel pump first. Most checklists for this plane call for the fuel pump to be turned on prior to setting the mixture. 6) Aux Fuel Pump - On, 7) Mixture - Full rich until fuel flow rises, 8) Mixture - Idle cut-off, 9) Aux Fuel Pump - off, 10) Prop area - Clear, 11) Ignition - Engage.
@Fryns4 жыл бұрын
Engine start. Fuel switch bug. Turning in plane does not work. You have to use keyboard key combo which I do not remember just now. Then it starts
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
CTRL + E starts the engines, but it that what you get for the price =) I suppose they will fix this, or maybe not, but overall not impressed with this aircraft.
@TrueBlade-18894 жыл бұрын
I remember their Dornier 228. Trim indicator needles were reversed.... They NEVER fixed them. ....Never gave them another dime. ........They have no respect for us.
@mikeporter104 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I stopped purchasing their products a few years back when they didn't put any effort into updating the planes as X-Plane progressed. Their products were not likely intended to be very subversive, but that's ok since not all customers want that level of interaction. Stay well!
@rottweilerus4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! It highlights what a great job Microsoft/Asobo have done with the default aircraft in this sim. Looks like the add-on community is going to have a work a little harder with 2020 than they did with FSX and X-Plane 11.
@videolifeca4 жыл бұрын
Really? I have been underwhelmed by the G36, in particular the autopilot going into a deadly spiral dive. As wel, in the game the wings on all planes, with the exception of the commercial ones, don't flex when you hit some turbulence. I have flown several types.. they don't wobble rapidly as they do in the game and they flex bit when strained in real life. I think, considering the amazing job on the weather.. they could have done better with the planes.. many glitches.
@rottweilerus4 жыл бұрын
@@videolifeca You're right in that the new sim does have noticeable bugs and glitches. I don't see how a project of this magnitude could get out the door with no bugs whatsoever. Asobo does seem to be responding to the feedback from the community, so hopefully the bugs you mentioned will be ironed out soon. It's a shame, though, that Carenado couldn't come out with a payware aircraft that's at least comparable in quality to the default ones.
@aurintell11714 жыл бұрын
To start the engine, just use the checklist, like you should do in the real world ... check the fuel tank switch is not in OFF state ... put on the fuel pump and control the fuel flow. As you can see in you vid, the fuel flow stays zero while cranking the engine, that means your fuel tank valve might be shut off.
@suudlor4 жыл бұрын
Chech the fuel shoutoff valve and fuel selector. Should be on the cockpit floor.
@MorrisseysMonkey4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Q8. That's saved me some money. Come on Airfoil Labs make a C182 for MSFS! ;)
@manleybrittain12964 жыл бұрын
Carenado planes have always looked beautiful and not fly as well as it should Thanks for the review Sir!
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Manley, and for all your support!
@videolifeca4 жыл бұрын
I did like the fact that I could raise, lower or move sideways, the cockpit camera until it was outside the plane. Great views from there.
@pelgrin213 жыл бұрын
I have this plane and everything you said it's true when I'm in autopilot the plane pitches up a lot I have to disconnect the AP trim the plane then connect the Autopilot again and I have auto rudder enabled and when landing the plane wonders like when you landed but that is also the Cessna 152 and 172 as well I think it's the way the sim handles the aircraft settings so nothing to do with the aircraft but more with the sim Msfs2020 is a work in progress for sure I hope Asobo and Microsoft keeps fixing the bugs this sim could be the GOAT.
@sksupply4 жыл бұрын
Was wondering about this one. Thanks friend.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching my friend!
@JenniferinIllinois4 жыл бұрын
I've been hesitant to purchase this based on the reviews. I did purchase the M20R and have been happy with it so far. May eventually pick this up as I've heard it's been updated since release or just wait for another publisher.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Personally I would wait for something else.
@Sebastian-lk5ib4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is the case here, but in real C182T, starting procedure is different. To start engine, you need to adjust mixture to full rich, turn on fuel pump for 5 sec. You need to check fuel flow during that. After 5 sec you turn off fuel pump, mixture cut-off, prop full and throttle 1 inch. When engine start, you put smoothly mixture to full rich.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right, but in this cessna it doesn't really matter =)
@bobka_old4 жыл бұрын
Like for c172 rep in xp11?
@NGC0084 жыл бұрын
Nice honest review, much appreciated. The expected standards are higher in this new sim but this aircraft seems to fall way below previous standards. I have flown the real aircraft and I can tell you it sounds nothing like this version. The sounds on this one remind me of my cordless electric lawnmower.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Billy and for sharing your thoughts. Yes I agree with you!
@germanstorms27854 жыл бұрын
I had this one in Xp and it was, nah, Carenado quality XD
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was totally rushed in my view.
@germanstorms27854 жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Agree with that.
@funofflying154 жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this video, as it just reminded me of the debacle I had when I purchased the Carenado Phenom 100 for XP11, with so many things not modelled correctly, grrr :-( So, consequently, Carenado is definitely off my shopping list for the foreseeable future :-( Many thanks Q8 for your genuine thoughts on this aircraft, regards from the UK
@The1PatSmith4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Osamah, appreciated as always! I don't own the CT182T, (and neither will I), but from your review, I wholeheartedly agree with your findings. Just as a side-subject, are you getting all excited about the nVidia 30 series? I love the expected/announced pricing structure. - Stay well.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Patrick, I am literally itching to get the 3090. I will get it as soon as available.
@michaelwilliamson60614 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, keep'em honest. They got to know not to push any junk on us now....
@PeteAUS19834 жыл бұрын
I fly a 182 in our syndicate, This could be buggy code but you didn't prime the engine from cold which is listed in the POH for the 152/172/182. Fuel pump on (up to 5 seconds) and then advance the mixture when you see fuel flow turn the pump off and mixture back to cutoff then crank it, once it fires advance the mixture Your startup procedure was incorrect, ctrl+E overrides any manual procedures (if the code is not buggy) you overrode the priming step with auto start.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete, you are absolutely correct. I have made several attempts to start the aircraft with the exact procedure your describe, but to no avail. Carenado does not pay that much attention to details like that, so I am sure there is a bug in the code. Thank you for sharing your experience with the community. I appreciate it.
@AA-tz2bm4 жыл бұрын
What does POH mean
@PeteAUS19834 жыл бұрын
A A pilot operating handbook
@AA-tz2bm4 жыл бұрын
Pete Campbell thanks.
@caribbaviator70583 жыл бұрын
Got it for 18USD sale right now on the marketplace!
@Frankz0114 жыл бұрын
I want the comanche 250!!! Even the 182 from A2A fsx was bette than that! Thx for the video!
@baomao72433 жыл бұрын
Did the startup “bug” ever get resolved? I am curious because I notice the C182T is fuel-injected, which means the engine is NOT started full rich. The pilot instead... * sets mixture to full rich * primes it with the fuel pump (fuel pump on until you see fuel flow), then .... * shut off the fuel pump * set mixture back to FULL LEAN At that point, you try to start the engine and if it starts up THEN you push the mixture to full rich to keep the engine running. (See C182T POH p.4-12). Could the above “injected startup procedure” (vs carb startup procedure) be the issue ?
@dhblan85913 жыл бұрын
Wish I had seen this and other videos about the Carenado Cessna 182. I am new to flight sims and have been getting my feet wet with the Asobo Cessna 172. I figured the G1000 in this plane would be the same as in the 172, and so I bought it. However, the G1000 AP setup is quite different and seems to be lacking in controls. Maybe I just have to figure things out. But in the 172, I was able to set my target altitude and vertical speed pre flight and set my NAV mode and once over about 500 feet I could switch on AP and NAV mode and relax until near my destination. Also some of the soft keys are inactive on this plane. Disappointed in this plane and its interface. Hoping Carenado will do updates to fix things but it sounds like those with more experience with Carenado are implying they’d will not do anything more. Thanks for this review. To bad I was too late.
@elchaconaso4 жыл бұрын
true carenado character,very pretty with lots of bugs,bad flight dynamics and never fix them.had enough of them with FSX-SE and P3D,will skip all from carenado for MS2020.thx for review.
@twistedyogert3 жыл бұрын
So from what I've read, the 182 is the 172's younger and more agressive cousin.
@mephistophellis4 жыл бұрын
This is quite interesting. I bought the 182 yesterday and jumped in to test it out really quickly. Just wanted to see if it had anything extra features compared to the existing Cessna aircraft, couldn't find any. Although I didn't spend all that much time with it. But I did do a cold & dark start and had absolutely no issues starting the plane up. I feel sorry for those of you who have issues with the aircraft. OK! scratch that. As I was composing this comment I decided to jump into MSFS and gave the 182 another go. And this time, for whatever reason, I was unable to start the plane without first using the automatic start first. I find this a bit odd. My take away from this is that the plane might be a bit temperamental, and might or might not start properly. Regardless I hope Carenado fix this issue soon.
@bobka_old4 жыл бұрын
Hey, Q8, nice vid as always! Sorry for the offtop, but have you seen Aerosphere Pipers? They was released quite a time ago, but there's not much reviews for this. Maybe you'll be interested in reviewing any of this crafts? Their pipers looks interesting, but have some issues, it seems. Can't decide is it any good or not. Thanks!
@PorcelainKilt4 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the review. I remain abstinent to any 3rd party items unless they’re free for MSFS. When the time comes Asobo fix the very lengthy list of issues with the out of the box, I will surely have witnessed several other pay ware lament stories similar to this one. I think people forgot rather quickly this MSFS is in Alpha and will be for some time to come.
@ozsimflyer4 жыл бұрын
Cheers another great video. What frame rate counter are you using?
@davidwilliams18254 жыл бұрын
They have updated it yesterday via the Market place content
@RevEricHebert4 жыл бұрын
What is missing is that the Fuel Cut-off is in the CLOSED position by default in Cold and Dark state. Carenado "forgot" to place a knob to OPEN this valve. The workaround is to do Alt+V. I just added that step to my checklist and all is well.
@darrenw24 жыл бұрын
Great video, highest quality as always Q8. I have an i5-6600k and 1660 6gb GPU but want to upgrade to a brand new pc. Having played around with MS flight sim, what would you buy if you were buying new? Would you build it yourself?
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Hi Darren, thank you for your kind words. I would definitely build my own, always have, and always will. You save so much that way as with brand names you pay an arm and a leg for the brand not the actual components.
@cleniolelys4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, mate. I will save my money for a better simulated aircraft.
@baomao72434 жыл бұрын
REALLY disappointing. And following on some of the issues I saw with ORBX (London objects) I am starting to feel like I do not want to invest in MSFS 2020 add-ons until the ecosystem gets past this “gold rush” release behavior. Initial bad actors could seriously damage the ecosystem.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
I must agree with you there. I think they wanted to get some publicity being the first to release but unfortunately the final product is not worth its money.
@baomao72434 жыл бұрын
Q8Pilot I feel let down, almost exploited, as a long time customer of theirs. I have many excellent payware aircraft and sceneries in XP11 so for MSFS 2020 I was willing to rely on brand name and a few screenshots when purchasing to become an early adopter. No more.
@denziiey4 жыл бұрын
Orbx released an update which fixes the London City mess. But yeah for now stay far from payware. I tried out the orbx and i like them :D after the update. I think after a full year the ecosystem will mature.
@AA-tz2bm4 жыл бұрын
For me my only trustworthy’s are flightbeam, pmdg, flytampa,FSDT and latinvfr
@craignt574 жыл бұрын
I have the Carenado 182 for Flight Simulator X and was expecting the same excellent product. I was very disappointed with this MSFS 2020 version. This review didn’t touch on the Auto Pilot feature which is VERY buggy in my opinion. Everything runs as you’d expect until you turn it off...which it never does! Trying to land and fight the A/P which I thought was not engaged is very frustrating!
@mikeyharris4 жыл бұрын
Feels like a very rushed product to get it in the marketplace. One thing for me is if you're paying for an aircraft with a G1000 then it has to be better than the default with better modelling. Same with the autopilot as I've found various issues with the default. Disappointing. Great review though. I heard about you BTW on flightdeck2sim stream. 🙂
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
It is indeed very rushed and fails to deliver any value for the money in my view. @flightdeck2sim Many thanks buddy, appreciate it!
@pedroramalho87713 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this well done and informative video Please tell me where can I get this beautifull scenery of "Papua New Guinea" of your video for my Microsoft FS2020?
@donaldholman90704 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video.
@Topcat19524 жыл бұрын
I ran into the same starting issue as you had (AusSimmer also had it). Checking the manual, it indicates priming the engine first by engaging the fuel pump, advancing the mixture to rich until fuel pressure is indicated, then turning off the fuel pump and putting the mixture back to lean. Then start the engine and advance the mixture. I seem to recall trying that as well but still not having any success but I am going to try it again.
@baomao72433 жыл бұрын
I hadn’t seen your comment previously so I just posted exactly the same comment, since the engine is fuel-injected vs carbureted. I haven’t played with the C182T. Did this “bug” ever get resolved ?
@Topcat19523 жыл бұрын
@@baomao7243 Seems to be working fine right now.
@jaysmith43024 жыл бұрын
I'm actually a Carenado fan but I don't think much of this add-on. My biggest gripe is the horrible autopilot. If you engage vertical speed mode after takeoff, it starts out at about minus 7000 feet per minute. It does seem to work properly if you start it from level flight with altitude hold on. The other problem is that it oscillates wildly about the course in nav mode for several minutes before settling down. I don't know if this is Carenado's fault or the simulator's. I don't know why they wouldn't just use the autopilot that's built into the G1000. It seems to work fine in the default 172. I don't mind that the flight sim was rushed out the door because I would rather have it now in its current state than wait a year for a finished product. The same does not apply to an add-on that costs half the price on the base version of the game, especially since Carenado have little or no history of patching their products. Thanks for the video. High quality as always.
@johanpienaar36834 жыл бұрын
The reason I stopped buying Carenado planes years ago and nothing has changed. Don't expect a patch as the are already working on a next release of similar quality
@JohnMichaelson4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's a shame. One of the first payware aircraft I ever bought for FSX was their Bonanza clear back in 2009 and I loved it. They just aren't keeping up with the pack. Good looks alone aren't enough any more.
@EVELYNEMIL4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your phenomenal review, for the moment I'll stay on X plane, flaying 737 Zibo.
@Corsair8X4 жыл бұрын
Carenado sort of lost me here. G1000, but without the autopilot controls in the G1000. The buttons are removed. Makes no sense to me. At this rate the only aircraft I could see buying from them for MSFS in the future is the DO-228 - and that’s only because I’m in love with it when I’m in X-Plane and I suspect someone else won’t do it. Developers: a DO-228NG would be amazing.
@HugAviation4 жыл бұрын
Standby battery should be armed prior to starting the main battery, just FYI
@videolifeca4 жыл бұрын
I purchased this model because I loved flying the real plane non Turbo version in the mountains. It is a very capable bush and xountry machine. I too found the sound unrealistic but my main problem is with the autopilot. I can only hold altitude once I'm at altitude. The vertical climb or descend to altitude doesn't work for me. As for starting, I did have problems at first but I found that pumping the throttle while the fuel pump is on seems to work.. sort of priming.
@gunlovingliberal17064 жыл бұрын
Regarding the start bug, did you check the fuel selector? It may have been turned off instead of left or right. Hitting ctrl-e would have changed that.
@Aerospace_Education4 жыл бұрын
Since the 182 is the aircraft I have the most time in real life, I purchased this right away. I also own this on XPlane 11. I assume this was ported as fast as possible as a business decision to try and make some fast money for all the new users for MSFS2020. Like you had mentioned I have the same issue with the starting. Was frustrating when I first got it because I would understand if I couldn't start a 747 because I've never flown a 747, but how could I not start an airplane I have a lot of time in? They had to know of the issue in advance frankly. Hopefully they will fix that soon. Kills the immersion. The airplane also does not fly how a real 182T flies. The performance characteristics are not only off compared to real life, they are off compared to it's XPlane counterpart. Thanks for the video! Edit to add: FYI Full power is for take off only., Use 23MP during climb after take off and about 22MP/2300RPM during cruise is a good average for standard cruise between 4-8kMSL
@joegranata79364 жыл бұрын
I searched for a review of this first payware aircraft hoping for a working VNAV (default GA airplanes aren't offering it). For what I've seen here is not even the worth to ask you if you checked it. I agree with your opinion. Seriously, this is pretty disappointing. Simmers buy payware airplanes to fly it... not to play with the windows handles.
@mcshiggitypilot59014 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video. Also, Thank you for saving me a few $$$ ! Care....nado doesn't care. should be called CARE NADA! Nada = nothing in spanish.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Nice one =) Thanks for watching!
@misturarica7519 Жыл бұрын
Throttle, prop and mixture should be set often along a flight.
@Q8Pilot Жыл бұрын
With Carenado it is set and forget =)
@ThatCanadianGuy-e1p3 жыл бұрын
Just got this plane, but there is a bug, in that I can't hide the flight yoke. Apparently the devs are aware of this. and working on a patch. Hope it doesn't take too long. What I wonder is there a flight level change button and where is it?
@TheNordicVoyager4 жыл бұрын
Ah Carenado.......the opposite of A2A Simulations. 🤣
@therandom8024 жыл бұрын
You pretty much confirmed what I assumed was the case with this aircraft. Mostly pointless, and it seems like carenado was just trying to get their name on the board first.
@Josedav34 жыл бұрын
Most offerings to the new simulator thus far appear carryovers from FSX and PMDG and do not reflect at all the new level of realism that has taken years of toil and sweat to develop. Fanboys for these fledgling companies are shading the facts, but most discriminating simmers can see the sad mismatch. Hungry for this new source of fast bucks, while not taking the time necessary to develop products worthy of this incredible new level of sim tech, is a disservice to the community and will certainly not earn the respect of hard core simmers who can tell the difference- Until these aftermarket companies get their act together and go to work creating product on the same realistic level- be wise and save your money!
@BrljoMrljo4 жыл бұрын
So, cold and dark bug and ppl are complaining about default aircraft?
@luisguilherme58744 жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks to say the really truth, i will wait to buy a mfs2020 because i think the game was incomplete
@claudiohaenggi59364 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your Statement. I realy dind't expected something better from carenado. Pitty, they continiue so unqualificated as befor.
@rolandrabier59844 жыл бұрын
I did not see you opening the fuel valve, maybe it is why the engine does not start.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
It has no effect.
@rolandrabier59844 жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot I tested it, the fuel valve is inactive on this Carenado plane. But it started right and smooth at the first turn of the key for me. I really miss the A2A planes, I wish they come to MSFS2020.
@captainzeppos3 жыл бұрын
A very good and honest review, well done captain. As for the aircraft itself, I think that 30 euros is just way too much for this piece of crap. It screams "rushed" and even after September's latest update it must still be very weird compared to the default 172 G1000. I'd rather stay away from ripoffs such as these.
@andyholmes94854 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam. Saved me some dollars.
@tikibird80534 жыл бұрын
Q8Pilot, please comment on and clarify regarding your claim of a no-start "bug". Seems that all the folks voer at avsim are saying there is no such bug and that you likely just forgot to fiddle with the fuel selector valve. Was it set to "both"?...I heard that it needed to be set to either left or right...is that true and has carenado acknowledged the bug or fixed it yet?
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
I am almost sure the bug was there. There has been an update to the aircraft recently so I am not sure if it has been fixed. I will check and let you know. I recommens that you wait for A2A to release their aircraft into FS2020
@paulphibbs53624 жыл бұрын
Good review
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul!
@johnsluts1004 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review of this aircraft, as always. Could you fly around the WARR with ICON A5 or aircraft will do, at the moment I could not do that my card is dead, has to wait till next month for 3090 ;-)
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Hey there John, I will plan something there when opportunity permits. Thanks for the support always!
@johnsluts1004 жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot Thanks ;-)
@skyhigh7764 жыл бұрын
I stopped buying Carenado years ago, only interested in money. A2A will soon release their aircraft, so will wait for some quality.
@videolifeca4 жыл бұрын
Other than the one glitch with autopilot and sound.. The performance and navigation functions work very well... much better than the Baron G36 which goes into a spiral dive if you have any aileron trim set...Awful I've stopped flying the G36 out if frustration... in favour of the 182 or twin 58.. which seems to be fine.
@edlc820024 жыл бұрын
2:53 “In terms of the features of this aircraft....” yesss, enough with how pretty it is, lets hear about how its still just a carenado after all 😂 What amazes me is that the freeware zibo-like mod for the a320 is already higher quality than this payware. Payware like this is almost thievery.
@DTfang4 жыл бұрын
I have to set the mixture to about 50 to 60 % to start mine.
@terblanchejordaan38223 жыл бұрын
At this price at least the PFD should have the synthetic vision system. Carenado has become completely overprize.
@markschmidt13103 жыл бұрын
Mine keeps crashing when I try to open the window or door
@f.b.91004 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@freequest4 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the G1000 have a synthetic display? If they are using the same one as all the default aircraft have shouldn't it have it? Or do they plan on releasing it as a separate addon? Anyway, I am quite happy with the default C172 G1000 I pretty much fly that all the time anyway in Fs2020.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
The default 172 and 152 are much better than this aircraft.
@MrJoggl3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that landng :D^^
@raya.20412 жыл бұрын
Can you buy the Cessna 182T as an add on? Or does it come standard with any of the versions of Microsoft Flight Simulator?
@Q8Pilot2 жыл бұрын
It is an addon. Only the C152 and 172 are part of MSFS free offering.
@raya.20412 жыл бұрын
@@Q8Pilot OK thank you. Sorry for bugging but are the 152 and 172 part of Microsoft basic flight simulator or do you have to buy the premium version? I look online and I cannot actually find a detailed list of what airplanes and airports come with each version of the software
@jefferyg35043 жыл бұрын
The engine is waaay overpowered, right? 2000ft rate of climb, no problem. Doesn't match the specs I see of real t182s
@VirtualAviationAviator4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review. Looks like a Carenado money grab. I suspect they'll dump a bunch of their P3D models on MSFS with no substantial improvements - buyer beware. BTW: I didn't see you check that fuel flow was on prior to starting the C182.
@expataviator71074 жыл бұрын
I cant stand Carenado aircraft, but are you sure its not starting because you are trying to start without priming the engine? Also these engines are started with the mixture in ICO not full rich? If you tried to start a real 182 the way you did here it wouldn’t work most of the time.
@Q8Pilot4 жыл бұрын
Performing the right procedure didn't really work. I tried it after the video.
@expataviator71074 жыл бұрын
Q8Pilot I cant say I am surprised!!
@Aphrobyte4 жыл бұрын
It should be a update released...the start procedure is now fixed und much more bugs.....
@rambowarbird4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was not impressed with it in XP either. Looks nice though. In this review I would have liked to see how well the G1000 operates.