Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 | The RIGHT VR Headset for YOU

[@andreasbeyer9921]

A very useful video. I'm planning to buy the reverb G2 for my sim. My PC specs: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, MSI B550 Board, Radeon rx5700xt nitro+, 32GB RAM. In your video you have listed this RX5700XT and say that it will work. But I read in firums, that it will not work. What do you mean? Shall I buy one? I don' t need ultra resolution, middle settings are ok for me. Hope to find help here....

[@nickjf3357]

is it possible to control all cockpit just with vr controllers or do we still need other items , like throttle, stick, etc. ?

[@andreasbeyer9921]

@@nickjf3357 yes you need at least a good stick

[@caderatliff3712]

I was considering going from the Rift + Touch to the Quest 2 but being forced to log in through Facebook killed it for me.

[@KurgerBurger]

Yup me too, Facebook == cancelled

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

Same

[@duarteantunes2777]

@@KurgerBurger whyyy isnt it easy just log in

[@PhilipVels]

That's such a lame excuse, just create a nothing account to use it with, that's not hard.

[@MatveyMotion]

@@duarteantunes2777 id much rather not have a vr owned by facebook

[@bobcharlotte8724]

As someone with 3 headsets, I can say if youre even considering a Cosmos then just get an Index.

[@ericandi]

The Pimad VR headsets blow away all the headsets you reviewed. The Pimax 8K X has Dual 4K LCD panels with 3840 X 2160 per eye. The refresh rate is 75Hz native 4K mode and 90 or 115Hz in upscale mode. These specs are awesome, but where the Pimax VR headsets really blow away all competition is with their field of view. The Pimax 8K X headset has a 200 degree field of view. The competitors you reviewed have field of views of 90 to 100 degrees. This is a enormous advantage for the Pimax 8K. The Pimax has integrated audio, and uses Steam VR and a choice of either the Valve or Vive controllers. You can also add hand tracking, eye tracking,

[@Sondretheman71]

also its really, really expensive

[@xerogue]

What gpu is gonna run dual 4k screens on msf? 🤣🤣🤣

[@X3RTY]

@@xerogue GeForce RTX 3090 ti

[@tomast9034]

first one have to have a beefy pc. dont take mone aside for vr. pump the whole thing into the pc. vr can be bought later.

[@andrewjamez]

Mu Guessing is that if the teathering cables on the any of the modes is better for lower latency then people will use them like that. Increased latency will make you feel control input lag and that would not be good at all.

[@clayton4115]

the first 5 secs of the video I thought it was real life footage!

[@justinl03]

IMO best headset for flight simmers is pimax 5k+. Ultra wide fov makes it feel like you are not looking through goggles and a sharp display. I’ve had the quest 2 and sold it for pimax 5k+. Both are amazing and you really can’t beat the quest 2 at 299$. Just wish the quest 2 had better fov tho.

[@EV4530]

Hey Justin, do you know if the Pimax 8k would work with FS2020?

[@justinl03]

@@EV4530 yeah definitely! They said the game will support steam vr headsets so yea it should work tomorrow 🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@EV4530]

@@justinl03 nice 👍 👍 👍 thanks

[@NightOwlGames]

its £2,000 may as well just buy a real plane instead :p

[@Gruxxan]

its more than double the price so i would expect it to perform better. its not really a fair comparison

[@SiliconBased]

Too bad the reverb G2 creates problems for many users with regard to "error 7-14" (apparently USB connection issue). I still didn't get mine to work on a MSI Z490 MotherBoard, RTX 3090, and i9 10900K CPU system. Even after upgrading all drivers, and installing powered USB PCIe card. No support whatsoever from HP on this issue. It worked brilliantly for a day and it failed miserably after that with the error 7-14, and never recovered. Thus i returned the reverb to the vendor.

[@ColinDyckes]

The VR update is available NOW. I don't know if it was at 17:00 or 18:00 UTC, or if it's staggered, but downloading now!

[@danielgardenier3535]

Update is downloaded, installed and ...runs like s%&< on a 9700k @ 5.0 GH, 2080ti, and 32 GB RAM with lowest settings possible. Unplayable for me. Don't know what I'm doing wrong here. DCS ie runs fine. Anyone struggling like me?

[@ColinDyckes]

@@danielgardenier3535 As I said elsewhere, it needs a high end machine unless you turn the settings way down. My 5.1GHz OC 10900K and a 3090 was playable with default VR settings but at 23-30 FPS and it was a bit too jumpy. Great fun flying the Mach Loop in the Typhoon though. Lots of tweaking needed methinks 🙁

[@ColinDyckes]

@@danielgardenier3535 Whilst I'm sure my hardware helped, I know the 3090 is only 50% better than my water cooled OC 2080Ti and your CPU is maybe 20% down. I would have thought it would at least run for you.

[@danielgardenier3535]

Nice System, mate! Hoping for future patches and improvements in performance.

[@LeatherneckSears0341]

i will say that oculus for the sound quality you can connect bose ear plugs to take care of that. and it also needs Light for great tracking .

[@greathorton]

I prefer to take a balance on price, take Oculus Q2 Pro and powerful graphic card.

[@caribbaviator7058]

I have a 2060super and no way I would be getting that G2.Will probably just get the Quest 2 only because I am tight on budget!

[@benos4x4adventures49]

Hope someone can help me. I have a gaming pc and love using flight sims in VR. I can have every maxed out playing on the monitor, But as soon as I use vr with Max settings it running blocks and very glitchy slow. What can I upgrade in my pc to make this run smooth in Vr. My Gpu is Nvidia Ge force Rtx 2070 CPU is Intel core Tm i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80Ghz

[@jinzhang8241]

I've tried Oculus Rift S and HP Reverb G1 and G2. Hands down I recommend the HP Reverb G2

[@ryanator109]

how is the quality when you're in VR?

[@FlyinBryceCream]

@@ryanator109 its pretty amazing if your rig can handle it, just like the non VR version of the game. You wont be able to max out all the settings but the headset can handle it if you plan on upgrading your pc in the future.

[@ryanator109]

@@FlyinBryceCream My PC does handle the sim pretty well but the added VR would take away a few frames I’m guessing. I’ve had a psvr for a couple years but have thought of changing over to a PC one, it’s just they’re a lot more expensive

[@FlyinBryceCream]

@@ryanator109 this would beat the bricks off PSVR. Youll have to set the quality a lot lower than your used to but theres tons of guides on youtube for tweaks and ways to get the best looking and best performance possible. Good luck!

[@josepsalvadorpontsanjuan4869]

Why not include the pimax versions that have LOT more FOV?

[@ellonysman]

Which headset? meta quest 3rd. Gen...november/2023😅

[@o.nature]

Vr is still too expensive for me. I'm unemployed so I won't be able to afford one for a while unfortunately

[@siboneyyy]

Check ebay or facebook marketplace for a used one

[@hosermeyer739]

You should be concentrating on getting a job anyway.

[@metalceesie219]

i had the pimax 8kx was great(nice field off view) but to much eyestrain,so now i use a modded hp reverb g2

[@guybrushthreepwood3002]

I'm currently on a Rift S, and expecting my G2 sometime in Jan, along with a new pc build. Quest 2 looks ace though

[@jetfuelboy]

How would compare your Rift S experience to the G2? Are you happy with G2, any issues? Thank you

[@guybrushthreepwood3002]

@@jetfuelboy the actual headset is very much next generation compared to the Rift S, image quality, clarity, colour reproduction, it's a wonderful thing to look through. For my head it's very comfy, more so than Rift S. Controllers aren't as good, neither is hand tracking(for the most part it's perfectly fine though) head positioning I find better, in sims, I can take the set on and off, and I rarely every have to reset it when in cockpits. Sound is also excellent, I still like to use a headset on occasion, but the inboard speakers are excellent, as is the mic. Not so good things, expect to spend the first couple of weeks getting the thing set up, there will be teething problems, and endless time spent tinkering with settings to get it all running nice. I've a 3080 and 5800x, and my pc has been brought to its knees crying in FS2020 trying to run this at full resolution. I'd absolutely recommend it, with the caveats of its a ball ache to set up, and the hand controllers aren't great. It's very much one for the enthusiasts, if that's you, go for it.

[@lucasconkling6960]

Great vid. I’ll definitely take these into consideration. Thank you for this vid.

[@simflightpro]

Cheers Mate!

[@TheBassman0327]

Are Monitors required in order for VR devices to work? Or can I just use my VR glasses as my main monitors?

[@kd4wcl]

I was needing this information. Thank you for your great work!

[@simflightpro]

Cheers Mate!

[@BuntyDave]

It's the 22nd Dec...but no sign of update :-( Yet

[@simflightpro]

In sometime, hang in there

[@xVoLxPaYnE]

Is pushback for a TBM normal...?

[@pilotguy27]

The G2 is not $699, it is still $599

[@Bolling0]

Depends on where you buy it

[@lyndarlehane582]

So no Rift S ? It comes 4th, so you exclude it from consideration ?

[@russ1978]

Hope my rift s is good enough

[@50Hz]

My rift cv1 works

[@flexmcpee]

My rift S works flawlessly but note you have to turn off HDR from windows display settings otherwise you’ll get a yellow screen in VR. Other than that mostly great. Your PC is what counts

[@zeekcreek7169]

I purchased my MSFS 2020 directly from MS, and NOT Steam. Will this still work?

[@simflightpro]

Yes, Cheers Mate!

[@djtaylorutube]

Oculus Rift 2 requires Facebook login...so that's a big NO from me then :)

[@Askaly]

Its 2020, theres no such thing as privacy on the internet anymore.

[@tjmassick6375]

Beings you are giving google all of your data, what's the problem?

[@Askaly]

@@sqlevolicious Uhu ok, tell me more

[@YC305]

Just create a random account and that’s it, no biggie

[@djtaylorutube]

@@YC305 Yes and they've deleted those and disabled hardware, reports of that on KZbin. I don't want anything to do with facetwat, simple as that.

[@alexsp7086]

ERRRR G2 Reverb is the only one everything else atm is poop for clarity BUT be WARNED motion controllers tracking can be so bad compared to the others. Sold my rift S for a G2 difference was night and day even when i compared it with Pimax 8k. People stop making it out that VR is any better anywhere else because it is not. We are still in the early stages of VR. VR even though great and immersive, still for this sim can not beat a high res monitor with Track IR with a high end pc to go with it.

[@jez3774]

what VR set can you use can I use oculus rift never mind best

[@imrosie1]

how do we set up the quest 2 to run it do we need to buy on steam or will it support it natively? thanks.

[@sabrewolf7821]

i have it working via virtual desktop.

[@imrosie1]

@@sqlevolicious it is running on high end pc via link thanks very much!!

[@smajci007]

does it work with oculus rift cv1?

[@simboodamn]

steam headsets, so yes.

[@50Hz]

Yes, can confirm

[@billrocks47]

Yes. Make sure you load the beta from Oculus though.

[@neilsimmons9582]

I played MSFS last night in VR for the first time and it's pretty demanding. I have an RTX 3080 with a Valve Index, I barely get 50fps. 50fps isn't terrible in a flight sim because things don't move as fast in the sky, graphically. I don't see how you could play this with a wireless headset or without at least having a 2080ti.

[@Hani_Santa]

50fps is really good if your graphics and resolution are nice. Don't expect 90+ fps in flightsims for a couple of years. VR is just to demanding.

[@CC-gt3ro]

I have a 1080ti and ryzen 1800x and vr with my samsung odyssey works smoothly without any issues at high settings. It has 1440x1600 per eyes. Everything is smooth and superior to 40fps easily. I haven’t check but everything is displayed without stuttering. In 2d i can do more 35fps in 4k high settings and my headset res is inferior to 4k 2d as in fact 2880x1600 instead of 3840x 2160. So it is less demanding.

[@CC-gt3ro]

However after thinking i must correct my assertion that it is not more demanding. Because in vr the two eyes are slighly different rendering, so it is more demanding for the cpu certainly. For the gpu it has to render two different scenes but the textures are the same, so it has to render 50% of the scene for one eye and the other 50% for the other eye, so it should not be so different. The difference is more demanding for the cpu which need to calculate the triangle for two scenes but half size each but still different scenes. So in overall, the vr is more demanding resources. However it does not change my fps result which are really good with an now old ryzen 1800x and gtx1080ti.

[@Aj-vg7fp]

Any one can help me to setup VR ,pc,gear etc…. To be able to enjoy flight simulator or xplane 11 .? I appreciate it

[@RealEbola]

Which vga do use please!?

[@yornav]

I hope it's possible to fly with only the VR controllers, so withouth a physical yoke/joystick and mouse. If not, it's not immersive enough to me. X-Plane 11 works very well with only the VR controllers. Very immersive. If MSFS doesn't support that, it will be a dealbreaker.

[@flexmcpee]

VR controllers don’t work I am afraid. I use an Xbox controller and doesn’t remove from the experience

[@michaelm.3641]

It won’t be, they already showed gameplay demo. I frankly think it’s ridiculous they went to the trouble of including VR support and then didn’t include support for controllers. Absolutely disappointing. Was really excited to get into MSFS VR as VTOL VR was such a great experience, but half of the VR experience is being able to touch and grab controls, without that it’s not proper vr. I will wait for either mod support or another game like VTOL VR to innovate. Disappointed. :(

[@flexmcpee]

@@michaelm.3641 I am sure it’ll come in an update but yeah would be great to have the controllers working. They only had a few months to rollout this VR update and personally the experience is epic considering the time they had but I agree it’ll be superior when/if they add support

[@yornav]

@@michaelm.3641 Meanwhile I did buy MSFS. So apparently it wasn't such a dealbreaker to me as I promised. And after playing a while with it, I must say that the mouse isn't that annoying as I thought it would be, despite breaking the immersion. Still I hope that they will add VR controller support somewhere in the near future. That said, I must say that MSFS in VR is just friggin' awesome. It looks stunning and I think the most immersive VR experience thus far. (despite the mouse) At some point I was so immersed in the game that I wanted to grab the yoke of the plane, but I don't have a yoke, I use a joystick. 😂

[@yornav]

@@IcyTorment You're responding to a very old comment of mine and you're absolutely right. I used to play X-Plane 11 with VR controllers only and thought it was the most immersive, bit I'm now flying MSFS for almost a year now with joystick and a homebrew throttle quadrant and I agree that without those physical controllers it's not as immersive. And now MSFS has VR controller support I even don't bother about it anymore and sometimes even find it annoying when my VR controllers suddenly show up in the cockpit. I designed my throttle quardant in a way that it's ease to control it blindly. I can feel the position of the buttons, handles and knobs and know which one is which. Works like a charm.

[@wrongwayfeldman5393]

Looks good but can anyone tell me how to find voice chat on DISCORD in FS2020? I'm in North America

[@Gaetano.94]

Oculus Quest 2 has been sitting in the corner for almost 2 months. Waiting for this. Do you know what time it will come out on the 22nd?

[@howardlink4108]

I wouldn't get to excited. If you experience any lag in the sim, it is magnified in VR. After about an hour of troubleshooting problems, I found it unplayable in VR. Waiting for bug fixes

[@flexmcpee]

@@howardlink4108 works perfecting for me on my Rift S. I guess it depends on the power of your PC more than anything else. Blown away by how good it is

[@howardlink4108]

@@flexmcpee did you have to change any settings, or did it work on base settings? My computer is powerful enough to play both mfs and other vr games at medium to high levels.

[@flexmcpee]

@@howardlink4108 no changes at all mate just works out the box. Had to disable HDR in windows other than that all works perfectly

[@howardlink4108]

@@flexmcpee alright thanks

[@shivigupta843]

Can I use Oculus rift S to play this sim?

[@OnlyVRBabe]

Yes absolutely.In fact I have better performance with my Rift S than my Quest 2 . Using a 2070 super and 3600x

[@buikhan]

Can you wear glasses in these VR headsets?

[@simflightpro]

Yes

[@Askaly]

Its possible, but uncomfortable and you mught scratch the lenses like I did.

[@buikhan]

@@Askaly I have old man eyes. Can these adjusted so I don’t have to wear my glasses?

[@Askaly]

@@buikhan In case of the Rift S you can adjust the headset's distance from your eyes so glasses can fit in between. But this loweres the FOV even more and gives some light leakage. I havent tried them myself but there are prescription lens inserts you can order which is probably the best solution.

[@ColinDyckes]

Yes, but even a mild prescription gives a small sweet spot and blurred periphery (more than it should be). Add on lenses will be the solution.

[@nickjf3357]

do we still need joystick , throttle, etc. to control all cockpit or vr controllers are enough to do everything ? could you please help me . thanks alot

[@simflightpro]

Yes mate

[@brent4770]

I looked today and don't see any patch or VR in my sim??

[@simflightpro]

It is available now. Please restart your simulator. Cheers Mate!

[@52sadanand]

Good presentation and good seanieies.

[@simflightpro]

Thanks Pa!

[@watchman6104]

Will all the Oculus headsets work with the sim? Mine is an older one, not quest.

[@watchman6104]

@@sqlevolicious Thank you!

[@watchman6104]

@@sqlevolicious Can I use the hand controls that came with the Rift?

[@irbn1758]

I have a Psvr and flight simulator bought from Microsoft Store. Can it work with Steam Vr?

[@jessewhite2593]

Yes

[@hansholland5300]

I have the old oculus rift does it work or do I have to upgrade?

[@FlightSims]

Works just fine for me. (Cv1) I am considering the g2 next since my card will handle full res he mentioned.

[@DiscoStu30]

no pc can run ultra vr settings

[@Crubik96]

Will I be able to play this game in VR with a RTX 2060 Super? Thanks

[@Manolofly2024]

Many Users that have played on VR said that the performance will be near the same than playing without VR. so lets wait for it

[@Crubik96]

@@sqlevolicious a 3080, for real? :(

[@50Hz]

Yes, my 1650 works

[@Crubik96]

@@50Hz It runs ok in VR with your 1650?

[@50Hz]

@@Crubik96 it's good, it's not jaw dropping. But it's very playable. I wouldnt be doing any massive cross country flights.

[@andrewjamez]

what model has the smoothest tracking movement. Some seem to be quite a gritty movement...

[@blakejake9618]

I’ve had a Vive and I have an Index. I haven’t noticed any tracking issues at all. It’s probably only gritty when you’re watching on a phone or computer.

[@Askaly]

Your eyes compensate for this, you do not see this.

[@Todestelzer]

I had a cv1 and now hp g2. Headset tracking is more stable on the g2. There is no drift. Controller tracking, weight and size is better on the CV1.

[@maciejxxx4059]

Samsung odyssay plus

[@hokk7933]

vr support for quest 2 ?

[@DuecePiece]

Will this work with the Valve Index?

[@simflightpro]

Yes 👍🏻

[@smsm2022]

Is compatibility the oculus rift cv1?

[@smsm2022]

The openXR is compatibility with oculus rift cv1 or not?

[@currololo]

@@smsm2022 Yes, I'm playing MSFS with CV1. You know, it is a low-res HMD compared to Quest 2 and G2 but the feeling of being in the cockpit is the same and is mindblowing.

[@russellburnup1939]

VR is garbage until there's an intuitive way to interact with the controls.

[@MrLpki]

If you have already some headset that's the one you need. No need to spend any more money for new super duper.

[@ACaseyPodcast]

Psvr?

[@ACaseyPodcast]

@@sqlevolicious okay, but technically it is a vr headset that you can use with your pc, so I’d still like to know if it will work ..

[@I_still_use_winamp]

Rift s 🤞🏼hoping it’s good

[@ov3rp0wered]

Bruh rift s on top

[@Silent0666]

oculus rift s is for me.

[@theegg-viator4707]

Obviously the choice is UTTERLY clear: XTAL 8K Everything else is just gamer toys, low fidelity optics, and horrible Field of View.

[@tomast9034]

for that i can buy a car and solid one :D:D:D which will serve me next ten years or so.

[@theegg-viator4707]

@@tomast9034 cars are evil, ride a bicycle 🚴🚵🏼🚵🏼😁

[@mikeyoung9810]

For a second there I thought you were going to suggest something really expensive and out of reach for most people.

[@tomast9034]

@@theegg-viator4707 there were times are did 5000+ km per year, then i got my drivers license :P

[@CanadianTexaninLiguria]

Not the best but the cheapest.