Microsoft Flight Simulator - BIGGEST News Update For Months!

[@venithaherarth1488]

Currently, seems like their biggest priority should be making an updater that actually works.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

Classic Microsoft. Windows Update has been a fricken bugfest as well ever since.

[@davet9820]

I hate that you need to open the client to update instead of using the background Steam updater like every other game. I don't play it all too often and it feels like every time I start it up I have to download 25 gigs

[@rbuck145]

Broke mine, again 😔

[@venithaherarth1488]

Yep, and the installer can't seem to handle more than 10 people downloading the update at the same time​

[@theonefrancis696]

"Thank you for buying the game. Please, spend the next 12 hours installing the game, that way we can make sure you cannot refund it"

[@sergiosala640]

R.I.P "White Dot From Hell" (2020-2023)

[@aklnkl5369]

How did you get rid of this white dot?

[@Cessna172SNavIII]

It will be back

[@FTStratLP]

​@@aklnkl5369The recent update 13 got rid of it.

[@christophermccormick5505]

Thank goodness, I've been running a program that deletes the dreaded white dot

[@pm110978]

😢😢😢

[@anony88]

An underrated change in MSFS 2024 is removing green tint from a lot of areas, and improving the haze/atmosphere look. At least it looked improved to me in the trailer. Also improved physics.

[@WASTHATABULLET]

You are spot on with that change for sure super happy about it

[@PipioPipio-v8o]

Well I've managed to fix it at some point with nvidia freestyle and seems lot better than default. Xbox players dont have much option tho

[@happygamer4932]

Yea, I thought it looked a lot more "crisp" in the trailer and more detailed. I hope that's not only for the trailer though

[@rbuck145]

Currently using Google maps instead of bing , so tired of green roads. Now things seem better.

[@QBziZ]

I pulled the trigger on Rex AccuSeaon, that helps a lot as well.

[@erichharvey10]

I would love to see them expand the current flight sim model and world to a "Combat Flight Simulator" similar to what they did back in 98-2000

[@bostonelf1138]

How interesting you mention that. ... I have been thinking the same thing...and you and I share the same name except I'm Erik with a "k" --imagine that !😄

[@Mr.Canuck]

Sadly theyve repeatedly stated they wont do combat. A missed opportunity.

[@DerekMoore82]

I'd like to see them add random, rarely seen UFOs just like in real life. * 04:11 Never mind, I see they already did.

[@TheGreatRepeller]

Giving the entire Combat flight sim market to the stinkin Russians was a horrible idea.

[@mikkdc]

Still can't believe this is now over 3 years old!

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

Well, most of the time of that aging didn't happen anyways. Which makes it just more uncredible.

[@swoop1352]

Jesus Christ. We've been saying long flights cause slowdowns and crashes since the beta _and they've only just tried long flights for themselves?!!_

[@strikkflypilot927]

These guys only care if their sim looks beautiful on KZbin vids. You can still fly a Cessna 172 upside down for the entirety of Your flight(bar takeoffs and landings)…

[@swoop1352]

@@strikkflypilot927 No, you can land a cessna upside down.....you just can't take off again.

[@strikkflypilot927]

@@swoop1352 i am sure You could in this game with wheels on top aswell as under the plane.

[@hobanagerik]

Looking forward to seeing a 2020 roadmap that covers November 2023, and beyond.

[@AGMTB.]

2024: Minor updates 2025: Even less updates 2026: Nothing 2027: Nothing 2028-30: What is MSFS 2020?

[@Unwoken_European]

They want you to buy their new simulator... They will force you by not updating anything.

[@manifestgtr]

The amount of love that the flight sim community has been getting over the last 5 years is staggering. New MSFS and X-plane releases, RFS and infinite flight for ios (infinite flight having one of the best multiplayer communities in the history of flight simulation). Things were *not* this good ten years ago…

[@Unwoken_European]

I would say that DCS and IL2 sturmovik are around more than a few years.

[@simonbaxter8001]

They need to fix the terrain mesh to remove the massive 'gashes' that are seen in some areas and also make the auto road overlays optional. I have a custom airfield with dirt track overlays across everything ... some of which aren't even there in real life, so not too sure which map data they are lifting them from!

[@integratedflightsimulation1810]

One of the biggest issues for Hardware users is the user having to reselect FS2020 to 'Focused' before being able to move any joysticks or yokes after, for example, using a touch screen hardware such as GTN750 or similar.

[@Ahibasabala]

I'd like to see more realistic mountains, i flew around china expecting to see those famous jagged cliffs, only to find some rather disappointingly round mounds instead

[@MrLuumpy]

China won't give them data. China will NEVER look like you want. Fly elsewhere...like where freedom exists..

[@StingrayMM20]

Thanks for the regular updates and summaries of all the news, Obs! I know you must have read this numerous times already, but I'm going to say it anywas: If you read me the phone book I'd happily listen. Your voice is second to none.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

The horizon line has already been seen in 2024 videos so don't hold your breath on that one. But honestly that is more annoying than anything. I want to simply see better world updates such as actually cleaning trees out of cities

[@Chrisloft]

From last Q@A 2 days ago, In fs2024 the horizon line is fixed with new atmospheric scattering engine, the early fs2024 trailer video did not make it, a lot of conclusion with even not alpha version. "“I can answer that. I think some people might have even noticed this in the trailer that Jorg talked about back in June. This issue required a complete overhaul of the atmospheric engine. For those who are mathematically inclined, there are two integrals involved. In Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, these integrals were pre-computed, which led to precision errors. In the rework of the atmospheric engine, everything is sampled in real-time, with the graphics card handling the computations, eliminating virtually all precision errors. This was a significant architectural change. The only way to address it in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 was to attempt to find a way to remove the horizon line, but this issue has been resolved since then. However, it didn’t make it into the Fs2024 trailer. So, I would say it’s a positive change.”"

[@Rmeistr]

@@Medieval1-1maybe we can wait until we actually know more about msfs2024 before we speculate on what its gona be…

[@tanerkayhan4124]

still not able to finish update 13 completeley. have you same problem?. it stops at decompressing phase at final stage.

[@gpeto74]

This update really screwed up my fps. I had everything on ultra settings running 50 to 65 fps on the ground and now running 26 to 39. I dropped the settings down to medium and barely getting 45. 5950x, 6950xt, with 64 gigs running at 3800mhz. The most definitely goofed something up.

[@pilotembgamers4644]

I wish theyd fix snow permanently appearing on ground with live weather active in areas when it’s 60F degrees outside. Drives me nuts. Been a known issue for over 2 years. Feels like flying in a black and white movie.

[@Solo6R]

what an odd bug, do you mean exactly 60 or below 60? I fly in places below 60 (Central Oregon) all the time and don't have that bug but maybe I haven't flown there when it's "exactly" 60?

[@chrisvowell2890]

So what you're really stating is that there will be no real further mods to FS 2020 but we've got to wait to upgrade to FS2024 for any substantial improvements!

[@nemesisone8927]

exactly which pisses me off. to me now MSFS is a what ever, like i said i wont pay for anything new ever again from MS

[@sidplays77]

Tell me what franchise in the last 10 years hasn't released new versions with new features? The amount of FREE updates this has had since Aug release is unparalleled with any other software on the market. I want this hobby to grow, expand and improve. If that means dropping cash on a new version then so be it.

[@ligmasack9038]

@@sidplays77 spoken like a true Boot-licker. What is your favorite flavor of Polish?

[@after_midnight9592]

Plenty of aircraft are in development to be released, since they work in both versions. I'm looking forward to tbm 850 and mitsubishi MU-2

[@sidplays77]

@@ligmasack9038its called economics my friend, go read about it.

[@drizztcat1]

I've been waiting so long for multiplayer cockpits and disappointing it's still so far out. I just want to be able to fly with my boy in the right seat running the radio with Vatsim while I'm PiC.

[@sarthehighwaypatrol3637]

There is an app called “your controls”. Right now, it’s the best we got. I did the “cross the pond” event back in April with my buddy sharing a Kuro 788 cockpit. Was a great time!

[@CC-gt3ro]

You can if you play together with a 43 inch screen monitor and a alpha and bravo throttle controls and additional gps and radio units. The copilot can take care of the radio and autopilot settings when one is flying the plane. A dial VR cockpit is not for tomorrow as pc have already difficulties to display for one person. Maybe in 10 years.

[@BobShowalter-g7e]

I brushed my teeth for THIS??? I have to seriously question major life choices like this in the future.

[@oliverer3]

From a development standpoint it does make a certain amount of sense to shift the shared cockpit multiplayer features to the next release if the game wasn't designed to integrate them from the start. I imagine it could require rewriting quite a few fundamental systems.

[@AGMTB.]

Feel pretty let down by Adobe and Microsoft as I've ploughed a lot of money into MSFS because it was supposed to be supported for 10 years. I now know this is definitely not going to happen. If they can at least fix AI traffic, it won't be a total loss...

[@miranda.cooper]

If they can at least give us a discount... especially since I was one that paid $120 for the game as a "thank you" of sorts. At least a discount.

[@TrueFilter]

⁠why would you get a discount? Would you get one for a new bmw because a new model was released

[@Citadel.]

@@TrueFilter Well yeah if you trade it in...

[@TrueFilter]

@@underleft promised you nothing. Always a maybe. The product was the product at launch. All updates a bonus.

[@lsubesteva]

My anxiety shoots through the roof!!!! Every time there’s an update for this game!!! Just wondering what it will break this time! Just when you get used to playing with a broken feature they break something else! Gee weez

[@davidtsw]

Why are you so negative? They've given us a ton of free content, introduced new features, broken a few and fixed most if not all of them. We finally got a new generation flight sim and it's only been getting better if you overlook a couple of f*ckups here and there. And they're working on MSFS 2024 too which will be revolutionary, at least in terms of the scenery.

[@davidtsw]

Where can I see this newest dev update video? I can't find it on their YT channel

[@utley]

4:15 where is this located at? thats an awesome place from the looks of it, would be nice to fly it!

[@LaRents]

Réunion Island, Cilaos circus

[@turrican4d599]

When will they fix the world rankings for the Landing Challenges??? Still broken.

[@filippredin2063]

A bug that I've been having is with payware aircraft, will sometimes swap sound models and flying physics with other random payware aircraft. Mostly Carenado stuff. And sometimes crash physics stop working randomly too...

[@rolanddutton]

Now that the Reno Air Races are finished, and in such a sad way, I wonder what MS will do with the air racing concept.

[@FekLeyrTarg]

IIRC, Air Races will return in FS2024.

[@Ollivier44]

Very nice video ! how do you create these slow view shots? With what type of camera ?

[@thekidrailfanner5234]

What is the size of this update ??? I can’t make enough room for some reason ???? And I can’t find it anywhere

[@tommaxwell429]

I've had a couple of "crashes" so to speak recently. One was on a takeoff with the A320 Flybywire. Upon a normal rotation I got an aircraft overstress crash. Nothing out of the normal on takeoff. Another was on a 400 mile flight in the DA62. I was flying at 6500 feet over hundreds of feet terrain and about an hour into the flight it just crashed with a "You ran into an object." But overall, my flights are pretty stable including some 13 hour around the world flights in the 787 Dreamliner.

[@oliverer3]

Must have been a particularly sturdy cloud!

[@krsans78]

Will the replay function come in 24 or are we getting it in 2020 as promised?

[@Mud_AleX]

Is Asobo/MS taking classes on the CIG Academy?.. How about the immersion-breaking black lines/squares over water surfaces?.. Why nobody talks about it?..

[@rt2000pilot]

They're terrible, microsoft needs to find someone else.

[@Mr.Fantomas777]

How hot does your cpu & gpu run ?

[@Rikus1978]

My Fs20 don´t looks like yours even im running in very high settings. Are you using addons?

[@smsheard]

Mouse cursor off is middle mouse click.

[@nzavon]

Poo, several updates only for 2024, that I don't want to buy for many $$$$. So MSFS 2020 is stalled for future updates/support ?

[@PaulTinsley]

Where is that wishlist located online? Anyone have the URL?

[@tedtedsen269]

Why cant we change wether or time in a saved flight

[@hamishdundee385]

Any mention of VR support for MSFS 2024?

[@RobertMcNamara3DMc]

2020 already supports VR so I imagine we can expect it again...I hope anyway!

[@ibyguybusch8338]

When I click on the yoke or anything else with the mouse it goes from blue to yellow, but the yoke won't disappear nor with the throttle or mixture be pushed in or out. any help would be great

[@EvanKelly391]

I hope they fix the photogrammetry and the "melted building issue" that has been going on since release.

[@JohnMichaelson]

Would be nice, but I'm not sure how much of it is anything they can fix vs. just low res garbage data being what they can afford to put in. I know it's a pipe dream, but wouldn't it be awesome if they and Google could put aside their corporate territoriality and collaborate on creating a great 3D world engine that could be used by both?

[@Bhakti-rider]

When I got fiber optic a couple years ago, I was disappointed to see that photogrammetry mode was not based on photogrammetry at all. That's actually been my biggest disappointment with MSFS. @@JohnMichaelson

[@Axonteer]

Interesting, when i move the camera with my joystick i never have this white dot… Logitech Rhino has two special thumb joysticks i use for that.

[@tanerkayhan4124]

for decompressing problem, remove any files(steam versi. mfs>package>official>steam) named with fspatch and fspackage then restart!!!!

[@RCmies]

I'm just glad I haven't noticed that atmospheric line going through mountains and stuff. The team has been great at providing updates for the game and it wouldn't make sense for them to just keep adding more content to the game for free, so I sort of understand the move to MSFS2024. However, I will be frustrated if they try to charge us 70 - 120€ again for just an updated version of the game. I just hope 2024 is a way more stable version of the game, and in that case it might be worth it for me to get right away when it releases - otherwise I'll be waiting for a sale especially if it's as expensive as I'm worrying.

[@b34k97]

Wasn't the whole in-game marketplace supposed to be the thing that funds continued development of the game?

[@RCmies]

@@b34k97 No idea but probably yeah, I assume they've already made so much money on this.

[@pastey3676]

@@b34k97probably, but the prices are just too high for me to spend money

[@Scoobz187]

Well, then they should´ve kept their mouth shut instead of promising a 10+ year full support.

[@Autopilot_Austin]

I think it’s verrrry lame they aren’t delivering on their promised content. Makes me and others I’m sure question if we can trust the devs enough to purchase 2024.

[@jasonmontijo1100]

Where are you flying in this video? I want to fly here lol

[@anakondase]

My biggest issue with MSFS is that now, 3 years after release, there's still quite a few airports missing. I know a few of them because bing maps sucks in those areas. It's annoying that they won't fix it and to be honest I won't spend any money on a new game until they do. Big deal breaker for me.

[@CAL1MBO]

They also removed iconic airports like EGMH Manston Kent, but added demolished ones like Kai Tak.

[@michelloranger2590]

It s funny to think that MSF will keep solving issues with MSFS 2020 when they re releasing a 2024 version.

[@ViewBothSides]

re Reno Air Races - that was Asobo warming over the code from FSX Acceleration. Hopefully that stays the hack it is rather than get re-introduced as Asobo's genius solution for multiplayer...

[@yams900]

Well explained mate, load and clear :)

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

Kind of lame that shared cockpit isn't coming to 2020. I bought my dad a copy of 2020, and it would be really fun to be able to fly together remotely. Kinda not happy that I'll have to buy him (and me) 2024 just to do that. :(

[@meerkatblack]

I fly two plane flights with my dad all the time- he loves it. Not shared cockpit but still a lot of fun.

[@thepilotmaster777]

So much for that 10 years of support promise

[@mrtim7372]

what is the location starting at 4:09?

[@cloudwatcher9370]

They need to make it where the weather changes over time rather than it being a repeated cloud pattern and they need to improve the lightning. It looks bad it just fading from a white screen

[@DerekMoore82]

I wanna see Tornados!

[@cloudwatcher9370]

@@DerekMoore82 yes and that too!!

[@DerekMoore82]

I live in Florida, so the only season I know about is summer.

[@didierruidant4494]

I would like cars ride on bridges and not under… personely I don’t care new functions. Correct bugs and improving 3d should be already a great thing. 9:36

[@fadoobaba]

how do i vote on this list?

[@lukep.7398]

I hope they will improve ATC in the 2024 !!

[@guywholikesplanes]

I second that! This and pushback are what's honestly souring my atempts at airline stuff.

[@yfig7020]

where is that 5:20 ?

[@kennetha6594]

I am experiencing a problem with my Tobii 5 eyetracker where it stops working after changing windows either via Alt-tab or Windows key. The only fix I've found is to completely restart the game. Is anyone else facing this, as dealing with this is breaking the immersion for me?

[@MsTurboprop]

Flight Simulators are so amazing but one thing that isn't right is the Tree lines in the northern and Southern Latitudes. I know little about the correct Latitudes of the Tree lines in the Southern Hemisphere but I have been all over the Canadian Arctic above and just below the Tree lines and in the Simulators there are Trees hundreds of miles or Kilometres above the actual Tree lines in the real world. Can this be corrected in the newest Flight Simulator or even X-Plane 12?

[@Tsudico]

If you have X-plane, you might want to try Global Forests. I know they have demo areas for version 11 (Alaska) and 12 (Eastern Europe) which should include enough northern latitude to see whether the tree line is accurate.

[@MsTurboprop]

@@Tsudico I have X-Plane 11 and 12 but don't have the newest Flight Simulator 2020. I have had all versions of Flight Simulator since its introduction many years ago. I will try Global Forests and see how it looks. Thank you for your reply to my post

[@tomc1380]

Finally updating and working fine, albeit at a little slow download times. All looks very good so far.

[@Flight3delta]

I got a CTD when departing KIAH with the default 787 on the first try :(

[@steve83803]

Only an hour and a half to download and install the “Mandatory Update” First flight Fenix A320, second flight A310 and immediate CTD!

[@paulD427]

Yeah the fact you can’t continue to run an older version that worked is ridiculous only game/sim I’ve seen do that

[@dookone7279]

Where’s your face? Is that you piloting Kenmore Air?

[@Hyestar]

For the love of God....I hope they put in proper 3 screen support (think like in XP...)

[@rbuck145]

Update broke my sim , having to redownload the whole damn sim all over again if it works. I hope they fix this issue because I'm sick of msfs getting stuck in a loop on updates. Now I'll be re-downloading everything for the next 2 days.

[@Machinomancer]

I just want to load a saved flight without the toolbar missing.

[@chrismattox12]

I can't believe they're doing yet another Europe update, and freaking GREENLAND, before an update for Africa or South America

[@wololo10]

What about a 13900K making more than 40 fps?

[@johnmcmurphy1007]

That's a good one! Limited by Main Thread - Hooray! Well, let's do some DLSS Frame Generation 🤠

[@Mud_AleX]

P and E Cores Crap...

[@mhoffman30]

Agreed - I have a 10900k and I may as well have a Skylake chip The amount of tweaking you have to do to even get this game to run close to right is ridiculous and never REALLY runs right no matter what you do

[@Ahibasabala]

I am miffed enough about 2020 being abandoned, that i won't buy 2024 for at least a year or two after release. Plenty of other games to try out

[@MichaelCordeiro]

Excited for 2024. Just hoping it works like a full on career mode and not just activities/missions with no centralized career system.

[@swoop1352]

It won't.

[@ligmasack9038]

seeing as how this was all content that was promised by microsoft/Asobo for MSFS2020, this is just another Scam.

[@cybercheese3]

Would be cool to run an airline like a euro truck simulator type deal

[@allansolano5587]

It bugs me that i feel like MFS2020 was an over priced glorified early access to get to 2024 😅

[@therudyreport]

I only really want replay and shared cockpit

[@nickre96988]

I am once again politely asking for pilot controlled lighting

[@DaveMcRee]

Or are we going to see a MSFS2026 edition?

[@ShadowGhostHD]

Hey @ObsidianAnt, I think u showed up in my YT recommendation 👍

[@rickdonkulus]

Still waiting for that hide the cockpit view...

[@MikeInExile]

I really hope they do something to improve the flight model of helicopters in FS2024. If they could just do that, I think I'd be a happy camper.

[@tonepilot]

Way twitchier than the real thing.

[@andrewjamez]

you havnt flown Cowan helis then.... Ive flown a real bell jetranger and the cyclic is stupidly sensitive.

[@tonepilot]

@@andrewjamez Nope, just Enstroms

[@rogerbartlett5119]

QNH in Mb not in inches for Europe and most of the world!!!

[@nemesisone8927]

i still find it sick that people that have bought the current msfs 2020 premium wont get the things that where for 2020 and now go to 2024 really hope they will give people that at least have bought the msfs2020 premium a big discount on the new msfs .ps after seeing this that they wont fix that line.... im NEVER going to buy the 2024 EVER!!! ill get it somewhere else, and it seems that MSFS2020 was just a beta for MSFS 2024 as so many things are going to 2024 its just insane.

[@miranda.cooper]

I really feel 2020 was a beta. And how crappy the updates were (are?). I was sticking through it because I was thinking this'd be it for 10 years. Then they shot that idea in the head and now I'm rather heartbroken about it.

[@ShawnLindsay23]

They fixed the horizon line in Sim Update 13, so enjoy that it is gone. SU13 improved my sim on Series X by a decent amount, I am not complaining about that! Now features we were promised that will not come to MSFS 2020, irritates the hell out of me, especially because I bought the $120 or $140 Premium Deluxe version! We better get discounts on 2024!

[@KAPAFlyer]

I've lost all hope due to these last few days. Asobo is *clearly* putting the cart before the horse. - The delayed Local Legend. Why not secure the license before having even started on it? - The download/install issue today for SU13. It's not a matter of server load this time, something definitely went wrong with the base code. - Lastly, users are reporting massive stutters and frame rate drops *if* they manage to get past the install issues. We had, what, and ongoing beta since late July PLUS SU13 was delayed a week, and this is what we get? It's honestly pathetic at this point.

[@turrican4d599]

7:27 Liars! A Series X would certainly be able to do Replays!

[@Marc-ps9dn]

They have left a bad taste in my mouth! I bought this sim with the expectation of all the things they promised and now! Just unreal!

[@skyhigh776]

And all the time Asobo spend time developing a new sim, 2020 still has a plethora of reported issues and bugs, with the emphasis being on reported.

[@skyhigh776]

@@Medieval1-1 exactly

[@brin57]

S.E.Asia to MSFS - “am I a joke to you!”

[@jollygoodshow]

The continued downward spiral of Micro$oft... these big companies have either no idea or simply do not care about consumers.

[@matsmathisen4357]

Where are you flying 6:02 ?

[@TheStevehow]

i think its the Blackwing 635 RG.i bought it from OrbX

[@matsmathisen4357]

@@TheStevehow ment the location :)

[@JackalWithAnRPG]

I hope we can transfer our aircraft to 2024.

[@jasonhurdlow6607]

They already said you can.

[@quantum8945]

I feel like I've basically been scammed buying 2020 when they said they had a 10 year roadmap. They've realised how much money they made from 2020 and are now doing a crash grab for the new 2024 game, disgusting.

[@nemesisone8927]

Exactly what i think!!!!! we just have bought a Beta to test for MS and im sure we wont even get MSFS 2024 for free or even a big discount. MSFS wont EVER get my money again NEVER EVER i paid for the premium version which cost me allot of money, and now they just come with things like we wont put this and that in msfs2020 but only in 2024 yea right NEVER!

[@JohnMichaelson]

A new paid edition later after all the expansions and free content that's come out over the last four years is a "cash grab"? Are they shutting the servers off for 2020? Have they said there will be no further work or bug fixes put into it? They said they would _support_ it for ten years. That isn't the same as ladling out free expansions to it like clockwork for 10 years. To be honest you've been spoiled rotten by the amount of content and effort they've done which exceeds almost any other dev period in terms of community feedback and engagement. And it shows.

[@chrisgard4076]

@@JohnMichaelson year quit right not to mention all the work thousands of people have put into addons and plugins. christ some people are hard to please would they rather go back 40 years ,i dont think so

[@goldreserve]

@@JohnMichaelson Bought MSFS 2020 Premium a year ago. If I'd known there would be a MSFS 2024 obviously would've waited. That's why it feels like a scam.

[@pipedreamin]

MSFS 2020 was basically what would normally be classified as early access. It’s hard for me to feel like I haven’t gotten my money’s worth, but certainly haven’t gotten all I was promised. I am finding it difficult to believe that any of the ‘not available at launch’ will make it into the new sim when 3 years on we’re still not getting properly fully functional multi-monitor support for example.

[@mateuszdrab]

First thought when I saw this video is that I forgot FS24 was coming...

[@LuisimiTV]

Shared cockpit VR?

[@jonathandesmond8697]

Although its been known for a while it was looking unlikely, the development updates gave hope thet were at least looking into 3rd party wx issues . Seems totally dead now , one wonders as its reportrdly a licensing issue if itll stay off the cards for msfs 2024 .

[@CMDROldDuck]

It's one thing to not add new UNPROMISED content to MSFS 2020, like the missions. But to not add seasons, which was clearly listed as an upcoming feature, to me that's false advertising / bait-n-switch. It really does anger me, because I bought MSFS based on certain presuppositions, and seasons (which is a fundamental aspect of any decent flight simulator) was a key one, living in a state that has four very distinct seasons. And no, I'm not buying MS2024 to have seasons. If anything, I think I'll stay away from this product, as I've lost all trust in the developer. First Frontier, now Asobo. No more buying unfinished games based on promises that the developers are unable / unwilling to keep. (Disclaimer - flight sims are low on my "favorite genre" list)

[@ted363636]

Replay functionality done??? Is this a joke? And Northern Europe AGAIN?

[@m0ther_bra1ned12]

I know a lot of people who are going to be very angry about this information.

[@JohnMichaelson]

But back in the day we all thought nothing of paying full price for FS5, FS 95, FS 98, FS2000, 2002, 2004, FSX... All those came out within roughly a 12 year window. I'm just glad the game is important enough to Microsoft again that they're carrying on with a large dev and content team. People apparently assume money is infinite and that ten years of salaries can be paid from one title release and some in-store purchases.

[@nemesisone8927]

i am one of them.

[@WhiteGinger10000]

Why would that be?

[@ligmasack9038]

@@JohnMichaelson We get it Fan-Boi, you refuse to acknowledge/accept that Microsoft/Asobo lied to you and you're ok with that. YOU are a great example of why these Companies keep lying to the Consumers; because they know Fan-Boi's like you will slurp up every last drop of Crap they decide to Skeet onto a Plate and serve you. Quit being 🤡💩!

[@JohnMichaelson]

@@Medieval1-1 Well guess what, kid, your feelings don't matter, either. How about that? What a brilliant rebuttal 🙄. You have a different _opinion_ than I do, and that's fine. When they shut down the servers before 10 years are up or make it so people who bought 2020 can't play any more, fine. When you no longer get world updates and planes that work in it, game-killing bugs are no longer fixed, then what sounds like just entitled whining will be more on target. Until that happens, nothing has changed.

[@strikkflypilot927]

Christ…Yes everything is pretty but I cant get over that You can fly inverted non stop in say a 172…😂

[@ImpendingJoker]

I am looking forward to FS2024 and I don't get all the hate. MS has been releasing a new version of FS about every other year for well over a decade. This is just a return to form. Didn't know about the "white dot" as I don't see it with TrackIR 5, and I am glad they are doing something about that horizon line bleed. That is one of the things that has bothered me since day one. I hope they fix DX12 support. I can run any other game in DX12 with my 2060 Super but MSFS crashes unless I am in DX11 mode. Living in Florida, I'd love to see some hyper detailed cites worked on. Orlando and Miami look pretty good but, Tampa, and Jacksonville look horrible.

[@skippychurch2965]

I think because the sim has still never been completely fixed and we are still waiting for it to be what we wanted.... only to be abandoned to a new sim.

[@Elwaves2925]

"MS has been releasing a new version of FS about every other year for well over a decade." That is absolutely not true, the previous MSFS release to MSFS 2020 was MS Flight Sim X back in 2006, 14 years earlier. The releases in between were just versions of MSFS X, People are critical of MSFS 2024 because they stated 10 years of support, which carries certain expectations with it. MS sold the game on one thing and now some feel short changed because they're jumping ship to another. MS aren't going to continue full support of 2020 while 2024 is out there. 2024 will get the priority (that's already shown in this video and by how slow updates have been since 2024 was announced) and at best 2020 will get bug fixes and some world/aircraft updates, maybe. I'm looking forward to MSFS 2024 too but I can understand why people are feeling like 2024 is the version they were sold back in 2020. 🙂

[@WhiteHawk77]

@@Elwaves2925if you ignore the gap between FSX and FS2020 they have very very much released a new version of MSFS every two or three years. In fact the only important way he was wrong with that statement is the fact it was actually well over TWO decades that happened. The main point is this is very far from anything new and anyone who was surprised by a new version coming out in a few years instead of ten after FS2020 hasn’t got a clue.

[@Elwaves2925]

@@WhiteHawk77 They may have done that before MSX but it isn't true for the decade and a half (roughly) after that. So what they say is wrong and that is important. You can't just ignore facts to fit a narrative. The point your missing is that back then, they never promised 10 years of support, which they did for MSFS 2020. Also, many people were new to MSFS 2020 and wouldn't know the history. If you can't see the differences between then and now, and why people are upset, then it's not them who need to get a clue. 🙂

[@jmizzonini]

A lot of us are more concerned that the new version is going to be too game-ified and losing focus on making a sim. The trailer certainly indicated this as their direction so hope to be proven wrong

[@mostlyindica]

I wont be jumping on Fs2024. Not rewarding MS.

[@frankdevinlp]

I am looking forward to get my money back on FS2020 when the class action lawsuits start. Seems to me like every single feature one promised for +1 year after launch is now promised for MSFS24 +q year after launch