Microsoft Flight Simulator | Xbox or PC | Side by Side Comparison | Which one is right for you?

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SimHanger Flight Simulation

SimHanger Flight Simulation

Күн бұрын

A comparison between Xbox Series X and a top end PC in Microsoft Flight Simulator. The pro's and con's for each platform is highlighted and a number of side by side flights is shown to help you decide which platform suits your needs and expectations best. If your new to flight sim or thinking about upgrading your PC, then this video may be worth a look.
Set KZbin to playback at 1080p for best results.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction
00:46 Pro's & Con's
05:07 Test conditions
05:50 GA Flight London
09:24 A320 Flight Tokyo
13:37 Final Thoughts
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@dgoto90
@dgoto90 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review thanks for taking the time. I use to work at Microsoft with the old FlightSim team and know how inspired and avid they were with their platform I am so glad to see it back in glory.
@neighbourhood3453
@neighbourhood3453 2 жыл бұрын
i prefer Microsoft now after watch the video and actually it’s a bit impossible for Brazilians to get a 3090 because it costs about 20 minimum wage. Xbox is much more affordable for Brazilians and it does a good job as we can see. I’m glad.
@xburk550
@xburk550 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago, I gave up on flight sims because my level of obsessing with performance outwayed the actual enjoyment of just playing. Now, with my Series X, Thrustmaster Full Kit, LG CX TV and Razer Keyboard and Mouse I'm perfectly happy to fly again.
@mtllcastmp
@mtllcastmp 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I have the exact same setup minus the keyboard and a different TV. I'm loving every minute of it and can't get enough
@RogueAgentX
@RogueAgentX 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I quit PC gaming too. Happy with my series x
@tonychaer76
@tonychaer76 2 жыл бұрын
Same here, I stopped years ago after realizing that I was spending more time tweaking and looking at the FPS count rather than actually enjoying the simulator. I am running the flight sim on a Series S and I am extremely happy. Still wondering how much better it would look on a Series X.
@TChalla007
@TChalla007 2 жыл бұрын
I was the same. I had to upgrade my pc too many times. I have a host of hardware from Goflight. Radio stack, rudders, throttle quadrants, etc. software addons. Now I'm getting back in the game, just waiting for an Xbox to become available for a reasonable price.
@cmontes7961
@cmontes7961 2 жыл бұрын
But but PC looks much better. But not five times better imo.Unless you are a real hard core PC gamer a 500 dollar Xbox series x is good enough.
@matslarsson5988
@matslarsson5988 2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip. No matter if you run the game on Xbox or PC. If you have a modern TV with interpolation. Connect the Xbox or PC to it. On Samsung TVs they call it auto motion plus. Makes the game look like it's running in 120fps and it's bloody brilliant.
@VRFlightSimGuy
@VRFlightSimGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Great in depth video Mark, you raise some points I hadn't considered (on both sides). I think from a VR perspective and freeware add-ons, it's a no brainer for PC users. However, I think it's remarkable how they've managed to port the sim over to the X Box, what an achievement! Take care.
@symol30872
@symol30872 2 жыл бұрын
That's insane that a $500usd box can come so close to a multi $1000's PC in terms of fidelity, Asobo are wizards.
@michaelfisher6354
@michaelfisher6354 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. As someone who can't be bothered to upgrade my perfectly acceptable desktop computer - it would be too expensive to force me to use/buy a new high end gaming computer. The X-box gives me very acceptable performance at a budget price.
@frozenfrosty00
@frozenfrosty00 2 жыл бұрын
How is that hard to believe when consoles are sold at a loss?
@michaelfisher6354
@michaelfisher6354 2 жыл бұрын
@@frozenfrosty00 Possibly...as printers are a good example where the consumables (ink in that case) are very profitable. Well, as I only intend to buy MSFS - they'll loose money on me.
@symol30872
@symol30872 2 жыл бұрын
@Lungho That's not true. SU5 on PC had a bug which removed volumetric lighting and had LOD issues, this is fixed since the SU5 hotfix and subsequently WU6.
@MarquisDeSang
@MarquisDeSang Жыл бұрын
You mean a 2000$ PC? The xbox SOC architecture is much faster than any brute force PC.
@DharynSimmerX
@DharynSimmerX 2 жыл бұрын
This is a high quality review . I wish all reviewers were like you, no ads and promotion, no waffle and unnecessary talks. I am definitely subscribing to your channel !
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@iantroup
@iantroup Жыл бұрын
I just want to thank you for not only this video but other videos on this channel. Having watched most of your videos & I have now purchased MSFS202 for XBox-X as it made perfect financial sense. I've been simming for a number of years now & my last PC flightsim rig cost me over £2500 back in 2016 sadly that PC doesn't run the current titles so when i told my wife that I wanted to spend £3500 on a new PC she nearly had apoplexy. Luckily for both of us I found this video & for a 1/4 of the price of a new PC I now have this on XBox & I am delighted with it so far. Please keep the XBox videos coming & thank you once again.
@RubinGnoni
@RubinGnoni Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. You have no idea how good your video did to me. I'm a fan of MFS and was very frustrated that I was missing this new 2020 because I wouldn't spend US$2000 on a PC. When I watched this video, it changed everything. I already ordered my Xbox X and I can't wait for the day I receive it and start enjoying this fantastic sim. Thank you very much for publishing this very informative video.
@thomas1699
@thomas1699 2 жыл бұрын
That was a thoughtful comparison. Nicely done! 👍
@joeglennaz
@joeglennaz Жыл бұрын
Hello from Phoenix Arizona. Thank you for the video. You’re one of the only channels that I’ve seen the talks about flight simulator in the hardware that you might want to use with it. I’m a private pilot, but I can’t fly anymore due to a medical issue. And I have played flights in the past but it’s been about 20 years. So I’m thinking about getting the latest version, but I’m a Mac user so I would have to invest in a PC and I’m not sure exactly what kind of hardware I would need. Anyway, I know your channel covers out thank you and looking forward to watching your other videos.
@weircottage
@weircottage 2 жыл бұрын
First class guide, Mark, thank you. I think the PC with your 3090 GPU was definitely more crisp. Given I only need the hardware for MSFS I am going the XBox route if I can ever find one to buy. The lack of VR on XBox is a definition negative but given the price point it’s not exactly a huge investment to waste if I subsequently upgrade to PC. A kind of training rig!
@michaelsummers9579
@michaelsummers9579 2 жыл бұрын
You should be congratulated on the release of this video which I know takes huge amounts of time, skill & video editing know how. I was amazed at the X-Box version to be honest but like you I’m hardened pc user with decades of sim & real world flying. Thank you for giving us a view into the two platforms.
@glennmullis1477
@glennmullis1477 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Mark for putting this piece together. I really enjoy your videos so very much. Well done again sir.
@ThomasGrillo
@ThomasGrillo 2 жыл бұрын
I am "cautiously" optimistic. Update 5 reversed my analogue hat switch functionality, which driving me bonkers. LOL. Fingers crossed, the next hotfix addresses this. LOL I really enjoyed the side-by-side comparison. Nicely done. Thanks for the video.
@enzoman444
@enzoman444 Жыл бұрын
I read a real pilot saying it looks more realistic on Xbox as pc is too crisp. We tend to forget we are flying through quite a dense gas/air and the slight softness give a more authentic feel.
@57Jimmy
@57Jimmy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great review! I have FSX and loads of add-ons and have had nothing but continual, aggravated pauses, freezes and CTD that I have walked away from it over a year ago after struggling through about 2500 hrs of flying. Your review has rekindled my excitement and now will start looking into a dedicated pc. I’m aware that my add ons from FSX are probably not compatible but I’m not using them now anyways. MSFS looks to be GREATLY improved and the visuals are all I could hope for. Thanks for encouraging me to lick and stick my ‘wings’ back on to my cardboard Captains cutout!😂
@RobinMorris-FollowMeChaps
@RobinMorris-FollowMeChaps 2 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant, fair and well put together video Mark, it must have been a lot of work syncing those clips. As an Xbox series S player I just couldn't afford the PC prices.
@Flackadder1000
@Flackadder1000 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant an realistic reviews and thoughts. A pleasure to watch.
@DMTCOMPOSER
@DMTCOMPOSER 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful and thorough comparison. Thank you!
@peterregan8691
@peterregan8691 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison Mark and it can only be a good thing that flight simming becomes more accessible to everyone. Where the pc absolutely rocks and no console can compete is vr. MSFS on a high end headset and a top spec pc is unbelievable, a truly amazing experience, literally ‘as real as it gets’. 👌
@justinbiggs1005
@justinbiggs1005 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until they update it to directx 12 on pc. Xbox series x runs directx 12 already. So Fps and visuals should have lot more room to improve. Directx 11 has some cpu bottlenecks that hold it back. Love playing on both my pc and Xbox series x. Series x is more portable so I sometimes bring it to friends houses and such. Lol
@melissaandgeoffhaines9320
@melissaandgeoffhaines9320 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a thoughtful and well constructed review.
@Huddison
@Huddison 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark. Putting that video footage together looks like hard work - I don't envy you on that job! ;)
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. 😁
@concentr8s856
@concentr8s856 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very well explained and thorough video that will help a lot of people. Thanks!
@thoughtsfromnh364
@thoughtsfromnh364 10 ай бұрын
Just a note to say your video helped me decide on the Xbox-ironically I was in the market for a new PC but found I could get the Xbox and a PC for less than a cost of a PC built well enough to run this properly ( US). Look forward to more of your videos
@davidneraas750
@davidneraas750 2 жыл бұрын
I 100% share your concern Mark as someone who had never been into flight simming before the pc launch of msfs2020 i have now become a hardcore simmer with 360 flight hours in the sim. Having said that i suppose i have ms to thank for getting me into flightsimming because msfs really has a good hook that was and is enticing to me and thats flying around the world:).
@ralphtheisen6174
@ralphtheisen6174 10 ай бұрын
This answers many of my questions about whether “To switch or not to switch?” from PC to Xbox.
@dalehoover465
@dalehoover465 2 жыл бұрын
I am optimistic, and look forward to the developments and hot fixes in the PC version.
@Djcirrussr22
@Djcirrussr22 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I own a cirrus sr22 and would like to fly approaches without having to spend $300-$400 on fuel every time. So I started looking into the flight simulator and was trying to decide between Xbox and pc. Thank you
@andrewwills6605
@andrewwills6605 2 жыл бұрын
I play on the Series X with the T flight full kit and a mouse. I use the xbox controller to move the camera around. It looks amazing on my LG nanocell tv.
@aminox777able
@aminox777able 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth analysis.. yes i’m very optimistic..
@ailtoncorreia5628
@ailtoncorreia5628 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for a such great comparison.
@dezh6083
@dezh6083 2 жыл бұрын
Superb review, you nailed it. Best like for like review on YT. As always an in depth review much appreciated. PC looked better in my Opinion especially the night lighting, but as you said already for the price point the Xbox seems a very affordable option.
@musoseven8218
@musoseven8218 2 жыл бұрын
Great review - thank you. My issues with PC flight Sims are now; Cost, conflicts, Windows (updates and other cr@p trying to enforce obsolescence upon my PC and me etc), also tweaking settings. I used to enjoy the cut and thrust of that kind of thing, now? I just want to fly a quality flight sim, fully accepting that I'm not in a real aeroplane (I'm not yet a fan of VR). In addition with the current complexity of MSFS 2020, it won't be possible to run a dedicated air-gapped PC? Thus at this stage I'm almost done with Microsoft PC based software - as I'm not a fan of Microsoft or Windows 10 etc. X-Box? New to me. As I just want to be able to use my pedals, yoke or stick, it might be the answer. My current stick and pedals are common or garden, popular, if Xbox can't accommodate those? Then I may have issues. Having products from third parties would be a nice to have too though in Xbox. One thing that would be good is some sort of ATC add on in Xbox so as to speak with real people and have realistic ATC.
@NordicMeatShield
@NordicMeatShield 2 жыл бұрын
Recently bought a new i5 - RX 550 with SSD, 8gb ddr3 for £459 off ebay which runs this fine so far so it's possible at the cheap end on the PC side, can upgrade the ram to 16gb cheap too ..still want a series X though, great value for the money
@CaptVirtual
@CaptVirtual 2 жыл бұрын
The only reasons for the Vatsim/Ivao restriction is due to the fact that Xbox has tight network security, but I suspect this will be overcome at some stage.
@denodan
@denodan 2 жыл бұрын
So much more user friendly on Xbox, no issues with drivers, etc needing updates. As you say just get in and fly.
@DutchManticore
@DutchManticore 6 ай бұрын
That is a completely idiotic statement. Xbox requires system updates too, and you can use the same driver on pc for years without any issue. These comments are constantly made by people who have zero clue on what they're saying. Pc requires identical maintenance as Xbox. You just hit an "install" button on a prompt and wait for it to complete. You seem desperate to make it seem so much more complex than that😅
@61684ryan
@61684ryan 2 жыл бұрын
You sold me on PC as soon as you talked about VR 😃
@AdamsBrew78
@AdamsBrew78 2 жыл бұрын
My PC is too old to adequately run MSFS, so I’ve ordered Series X. It’s an incredible platform and I’m quite looking forward to enjoying many years with it. Just a bit sad that I can’t bring my MFG Crosswind and Thrustmaster Warthog along for the ride.
@bb82870
@bb82870 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good comparision.
@petejansen8098
@petejansen8098 2 жыл бұрын
That was an excellent comp. I think for the casual couch pilot the Xbox versions cost alone is a better choice. If you are interested into becoming a commercial airline pilot you will want to start with a $4000 PC and yoke and go from there. I myself thing the Xbox x version leek amazing an will be all that I will ever need in a flight sim at 58 years old. Thanks.
@Tom-ub7sg
@Tom-ub7sg 2 жыл бұрын
If you don’t have a compatible PC already, then definitely Xbox. The sales tax alone on a high end gaming PC could easily exceed the cost of a Series S and come close to the X.
@race_four6955
@race_four6955 2 жыл бұрын
Pc’s don’t cost 3k or more
@nifixious7600
@nifixious7600 2 жыл бұрын
@@race_four6955 but a good one does
@race_four6955
@race_four6955 2 жыл бұрын
@@nifixious7600 No, if the gpu market was normal then 2k would be the cost for a high-end pc, good pc's are more like 1k or cheaper with the right budgeting.
@nifixious7600
@nifixious7600 2 жыл бұрын
@@race_four6955 i see what you mean. But for rtx 3080 and 3090 and 6900xt, thats a different story. Good news is that 1660 super prices are low
@kirkhead94
@kirkhead94 2 жыл бұрын
@@nifixious7600 I just bought a prebuild rtx3080 PC with i7-10700k unlocked and it was 2K.
@darshodaddelt
@darshodaddelt 2 жыл бұрын
I formatted the MSFS drive on my PC today. No looking back. Console is just convenient and user friendly. On PC you need to be an IT technician to even get it do do updates and start. My Xbox updated MSFS while I was sleeping and the console was on standby.
@jonfitton3021
@jonfitton3021 2 жыл бұрын
A bit of an exaggeration, but yes, you can’t get any more simple than a console!
@Oz_Gnarly_One
@Oz_Gnarly_One 2 жыл бұрын
I’m torn about this implementation. I could never see myself converting to the Xbox due to a few factors. My existing peripherals will not work, and I love access to the community creations or 3rd party developers. However I’m very glad that people without these limitations can now get into MSFS. I’m cautiously optimistic that Asobo and MS will not abandon the PC players.
@gameout9784
@gameout9784 2 жыл бұрын
did you recorded this from a monitor !!! with a cam if yesss fail again.... or a capture card or screen recorder ?
@TheBelse
@TheBelse Жыл бұрын
well put ..thank you.
@mickyaussie2364
@mickyaussie2364 2 жыл бұрын
If i would-be start today with simming, i would probably choose the Xbox but now i would miss LNM , neofly, skypark, third~party freeware but also payware outside the marketplace (like the amazing pmdg dc6 and others)…. I would miss my three monitor setup. But i will get the Xbox S because it is ‘portable’ if i want to fly somewhere else toen home. Thanks for the clear vid ! Good job Mark as always
@Aj-vg7fp
@Aj-vg7fp 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , it was very informative, I am new to this glad I found your Chanel, I was looking for a full experience of flying I believe it will be much better enjoying in VR ,any advice?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, if looking to get a VR headset for MSFS I would recommend the HP Reverb G2
@stugtodd2778
@stugtodd2778 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they implement some video control into the Xbox versions in some future updates perhaps but they might not. However I feel that I could do something more with the Xbox screen with simply using monitor calibration controls hehehe 😜
@daddyduderpopsculture4443
@daddyduderpopsculture4443 2 жыл бұрын
I play it on the Xbox series S on a 1440p monitor and the graphics are amazing, there’s some pop in in distance but its not that bad and it doesn’t effect your enjoyment of the sim. For 300 pound console its amazing. I would wholeheartedly recommend it, since getting my series s I no longer play FSX on my pc ( as its old and probably can’t run the 2020 game).
@blooter6360
@blooter6360 2 жыл бұрын
Yes ditto ! It’s amazing for 300 quid Run mine on 4 k monitor
@adrianbaldwin8832
@adrianbaldwin8832 2 жыл бұрын
Me to brought one series s just for this game enjoying but do get alot of popins I have 200mb so think should be enough but still enjoy the game
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Set KZbin playback to 1080p for best results. KZbin is defaulting to low resolution playback on most occasions.
@stephenmason5682
@stephenmason5682 2 жыл бұрын
Mine won't go that high?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenmason5682 depends what you are watching it on I guess
@equious8413
@equious8413 2 жыл бұрын
Been loving this on Series X. Hoping to invest in a HOTAS soon >
@elmarbartel2699
@elmarbartel2699 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your very Informative video! Please let me ask: Since I had already purchased a top end and fast pc a few years ago, I also bought the full version of MSFS 2020. Was it a mistake to have purchased the Xbox version of the flight sim? Since I’m exclusively using the pc and never any external console, now I‘m forced to pay the monthly extra for the Xbox- abo I never use? Thanks for a short reply and kind regards!
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 ай бұрын
MSFS is multi platform. One copy can be used on both PC & Xbox. Separate purchase not required.
@peterevanson
@peterevanson 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. Very informative as ever. Would you rate the Xbox series x better than the series s? Thanks
@mikem4883
@mikem4883 Жыл бұрын
I like the x because of the cd rom seagate built in. High speed. The comparison sadly was so much better on the pc.
@davidneraas750
@davidneraas750 2 жыл бұрын
In the xbox image its like there a soft filter while on the 4k pc 3090 its super crisp and so it should be the 3090 card cost almost as much as 3 xbox series x.
@johnkeegan6646
@johnkeegan6646 2 жыл бұрын
It was useful and informative, Mark! Well done, Sir! To me the PC displays were better in all ways, except clouds. I am optimistic that Asobo, under the Microsoft wing, will prevail. There will be hiccups of course. Update 5 was one of them; it should probably have been delayed rather than released knowing there would be flack. They recovered in a hurry indicating they are listening and are serious about satisfying their users. Most of us would give them extra time to insure they get it right when updates or fixes go public. Thanks for your fair and open analytics, Mark!
@FadeToBlack2181
@FadeToBlack2181 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question. Is the xbox series X version using ray tracing? That is an interesting comparison if it is considering it is still not available on PC with direct X 12. Great video and information, thanks!
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, no it does not use Ray tracing yet.
@swavezmartin
@swavezmartin 2 жыл бұрын
This game is absolutely amazing im blown away omg im loving this on the series x 😀 😀 😀 😀
@isitwitha
@isitwitha 2 жыл бұрын
Good work! I liked the split-view comparisons during flight. I would like to know the difference in fps between the two.
@Jut1911
@Jut1911 2 жыл бұрын
There’s other videos that show the Xbox series x at stable 30fps 4K
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jut1911 Rate is highly dependent on using real time satellite data, real time weather and real time air traffic. I have 100MB/sec connection and get 60fps on my 86" 4K UHD LG TV regardless of scenery or aircraft flown. 90% of the videos on KZbin show obvious issues due to slow internet. I'd guess most people rarely have 50MB/sec with most at what seems like 20 MB/sec. FS 2020 is not worth buying unless you can run all the live streaming global data.
@movingsocks579
@movingsocks579 2 жыл бұрын
Mark you're a legend
@robertrent5218
@robertrent5218 2 жыл бұрын
Slick presentation
@frankrothwellsflatcaparmy7027
@frankrothwellsflatcaparmy7027 2 жыл бұрын
My series x runs it amazingly. To be honest, I don't notice a difference
@karthiksampath9095
@karthiksampath9095 2 жыл бұрын
Just the review I needed. The XBox X in my country costs abt USD 700/-. For USD 700 you can get a Ryzen 5 3550H, 4GB GTX1650 with 8GB RAM. So do I go for X or will the equivalent PC for $700 that I mentioned above do the job if I add an extra 8gb ram? I don't need 4k. 30fps at 1080p is good enough at high settings.
@criert135
@criert135 2 жыл бұрын
That PC is not equivalent to the Series X and you damn well aren’t going to get a fast terabyte SSD with that like you get with the Series X.
@russellharris5072
@russellharris5072 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have been more optimistic had Asobo warned us that patch two could only be downloaded through the Xbox app,even though the sim kept sending us to the Microsoft store.Several frustrating hours later,I was able to download and install it through the said app.Your comparison showed a lack of contrast on the Xbox which,had more adjustments been available could have been corrected and given a performance close to your pc. I am still annoyed that with update five I got a good frame rate boost,only to have it snatched away by patch one..............................................
@Denspion
@Denspion 10 ай бұрын
I have both the series x and a self made Gaming PC with an EVGA 3070 Ti GPU, 16GB of RAM and the AMD Ryzen 7 3800x. My biggest issue is when I try to fly, the plane drifts badly even when not moving the mouse, I may try a joystick or something, PC seems the way to go in this comparison since I have both options. Though on the console I play at 4k on my 55" television, my monitor is a 32" 1440p but also has 240hz refresh rates as my tv is 60.
@markh8326
@markh8326 2 жыл бұрын
Is xbox controller vibration working on the Xbox? Because it is totally gone on the PC since SU5.
@1ghobie
@1ghobie 2 жыл бұрын
ill be always a PC gamer,wasnt big for the console.you have more options in PC
@davidthomas716
@davidthomas716 2 жыл бұрын
As a new Xbox owner I have MSFS via game pass that came with XBOX as a special deal. I am frustrated by the lack of even basic information available. Was there a guide, manual or other tutorials which came with the PC version? I found a cheat sheet for the keyboard settings but most don’t work on Xbox. Is there a definitive list of keyboard codes that work on da box? I am trying to self teach but most advice I get from kind users reflects their PC experience - often not pertinent. I do use the Thrustmaster HOTAS and a keyboard + mouse combo but much there is I don’t get.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David…hopefully my Xbox playlist will help you. See here kzbin.info/aero/PLSyT1Loyov5iQ04lKSrCJe6Ez1TdsHYps
@harrymooney9315
@harrymooney9315 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video mate but have you heard any more news about the honeycomb Xbox compatible products yet? Thanks,
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing official, but sounds like first quarter 2022
@harrymooney9315
@harrymooney9315 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS ok sounds good
@EagleDave
@EagleDave 2 жыл бұрын
Good comparison, but to answer your question. I feel the reason for the current SU5 issues was because Asobo was rushed to make sure this was going to work on the Xbox on the date promised, no matter the problems with PC. As sad as that is, I kinda understand, but what I don't is the way the SU5 was not communicated to the 3rd party developers, it seems they to were also taken by surprise. And that's not acceptable!!! Your right we will see in a couple years for the next paid MSFS 202? program and if there is continued improvement. The PC's will also be able to get better hardware, Xbox X not so much.
@christaylor5300
@christaylor5300 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve played FS for 20 years and I came to the point where I can’t justify for 1 game, replacing my laptop with decent specs for over £1500. I purchased the Xbox S to see how I got on and what I thought of it. After a few days of it my thoughts are instantly……. Lack of a 2D or flat cockpit style……moving controls about and adjusting the view seems clumsy. Sometimes I can’t see over the nose to land.or see. No Tower View at the airports…..truly showing the livery and flight models. Viewing your landing and crabbing in crosswinds etc and other aircraft movements. Unable to record or replay parts of your flight. I hope some of these maybe in future updates……other “Flight Sims” can do it! If anyone can through any light on these I may continue the journey with Xbox!
@jeffreyuprichard3754
@jeffreyuprichard3754 2 жыл бұрын
As a real world pilot of GA aircraft VR is the only way to go and the only thing that comes close to the real thing.
@menevetsny
@menevetsny 2 жыл бұрын
The scenery addons available for Xbox, there's only 3 available last I checked a couple of days ago, I bought the New Zealand one and was hoping for more. Wondering if creators will port or make from scratch scenery addons for the Xbox.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, but I am aware some are ''porting'' the PC version.
@davidneraas750
@davidneraas750 2 жыл бұрын
For me its a no brainer pc all the way.
@Dazzlercee23
@Dazzlercee23 2 жыл бұрын
How did you get that custom livery on the Xbox? That's not possible at the moment, is it?
@Dazzlercee23
@Dazzlercee23 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind lol. Just realised it's the tail number.
@Nambiar737
@Nambiar737 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, I'm a Commercial Pilot intend to get an A320 type. I'm looking at option to purchase a portable Sim set up. I mainly wanna focuz more on the cockpit view to practice my flying procedures ( I may buy throttle hardware for kinda need) what kinda sim would u suggest? Can I do it with a Xbox?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS Жыл бұрын
PMDG 737 and Fenix A320 available in MSFS via Xbox. Some limitations.
@Nambiar737
@Nambiar737 Жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS thanks, what kinda limitations it's got? Somethin I that I know I won't be able to add in lota hardware. I'm just using a joystick controller for hand flying other than what do we have on it? Will it allow me to practice my procedures and approaches?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS Жыл бұрын
@@Nambiar737 Yes it will, but you routes will need to be manually entered into the FMC.
@tissapiyasena9018
@tissapiyasena9018 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks for the info I see better graphics' on the pc but of course your is high end pc one more thing, motion platforms are mostly geared for pc operation, I recently purchase one but not delivered yet Thanks again
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, good point.👍
@petesilvers5053
@petesilvers5053 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from the lack, at mo of vr, Xbox series X is a no brainer, compared to the demo spec in the pc comparison. 32 GB ram, 3090 gpu, i9.......I've have a PC and you spend a lot of time and money, trying to achieve the ultimate settings....but rarely happy, looking for next upgrade..! Maybe vr would run with 2x Xbox linked...wow, and under a grand. Also Xbox not yet running at its max speed...AMD FSR part of fidelity FX could double 4k fps...
@davewills6121
@davewills6121 2 жыл бұрын
Also have a 3090 rig which with some tweaking runs MSFS sweetly. Yet my little XBS does a stella job, very playable in all respects. Coupled with GPU the XBS/X are the most versatile consoles today. As for Sony...well
@papagen00
@papagen00 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer an ultrabook as my 'daily driver' and flight simming on the Xbox - better value than an expensive gaming PC.
@AV8R_1
@AV8R_1 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone here know if there is a way to Play on BOTH the PC and XBox but without syncing all the settings and preferences over? I have been using the PC, but wanted to try it on XBox. Since there was no way to move the cursor I gave up and went back to the PC, but in setting up the XBox settings that I could set, it blew up all my PC settings when I went back to it. I want to have separate settings on each without them interfering with one another.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
There is not that option as far as I am aware, it treats it as one installation. Use a cheap Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard on the Xbox…cursor moves fine.
@ArizonaGunsDave
@ArizonaGunsDave 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I play on the Xbox Series S and you get a very capable console with good visuals for a way cheaper price. Let's face it, were not comparing a high end PC to an Atari system. If you must have the latest and greatest to be the king of the block than have at it, I'm good the the S.
@Rambo9700
@Rambo9700 2 жыл бұрын
I have this on Xbox series X and have been blown away of how well it runs. I’m not a serious flight sim guy myself, mainly because I fly for a living, on the A320 to be precise. The general aviation stuff seems pretty good, however I’m massively disappointed in the Airbus, it literally does not work how the real thing works at all, I understand that 3rd party versions of the Airbus are a lot better than the stock version, which in my professional opinion is a mess.
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 2 жыл бұрын
I also fly A320's but am more forgiving as I see very few FS 2020 buyers would really want to go through the extra complexity of the real thing. Happy flying sir!
@nchristensen3309
@nchristensen3309 2 жыл бұрын
is it correct that the xbox only supports one monitor ?
@emmanuelperez9490
@emmanuelperez9490 Ай бұрын
Sir, have you noticed that there are some weird limitations when it comes to the speed and altitude of the aircrafts on the Xbox Series S version? I was flying the A320 Neo and I noticed that it couldn't go faster than 320 knots and also it couldn't go higher than 31,000 ft. Is this normal or was I doing something wrong? I made a thorough inspection of my aircraft to make sure it didn't have any aerodynamic drag.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS Ай бұрын
320 kts at high altitude (KIAS) is about right. A320 is capable of climbing higher. Check your autopilot settings. Perhaps it was in managed mode.
@Steve31000
@Steve31000 2 жыл бұрын
X-Plane 12 is coming soon and looks fairly good so far from the previews and what's being discussed.
@MilanPutnik
@MilanPutnik 2 жыл бұрын
It is not coming soon. 2023.
@Steve31000
@Steve31000 2 жыл бұрын
@@MilanPutnik Where'd you read that? I thought I had read that Laminar was hoping to have it in beta by end of this year.
@MilanPutnik
@MilanPutnik 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steve31000 I've been in the industry for already 25 years, and today as a scientist and a government advisor I am always at the forefront of the technological progress. Regarding the new release by Laminar Research, it is my personal assessment (since the developer is rather scarce when it comes to any details surrounding the release window or any kind of date, which is normal in the early stages of development). I admit I might have been too conservative with the 2023. date - however when taking all known details combined with the development factors and the continual support for the existing version and business entities into account - no stable release of the new X-Plane platform will be available before the H2 2022. The same kinds of prognosis I've done for the release of P3Dv5, MSFS, the first PMDG product for MSFS and lots of other things. I never make mistakes. Not a single one.
@bryce.hooops
@bryce.hooops 2 жыл бұрын
When will we get a military flight stick for Xbox
@coffeeguy6673
@coffeeguy6673 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin must be psychic !!...I built a new gaming pc about 6 months ago but couldn't find a reasonably priced mid to high end graphics card so went with a Nvidia 2060 RTX 6gb , for the most part it runs very well and since the sim update 5 I can run MSFS 2020 at ultra settings on 2560x1440. I spend more time fannying around trying to tweak the settings and running it in vr with my Quest 2 to fairly frequent moments of frustration. I've been seriously considering a xbox S or X just to play this hassle free, I just want to switch on the console, pick up my pad and play, haven't got the patience these days to be piddling around with settings and fixes.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the attraction on switch on and fly is very tempting.
@jorgecastro3496
@jorgecastro3496 Жыл бұрын
I have the flight simulator on pc, I got xbox x any idea if I can download the game already got on the xbox or I have to buy another one?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS Жыл бұрын
No you can use the same one….you just can’t fly them both at the same time 👍
@johnboy8846
@johnboy8846 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, but could i see micro stutter on the xbox footage?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Yes there were a few stutters in the video from both the Xbox and pc.
@The_Arby
@The_Arby 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison mate and thorough too...Are they differences between Xbox X and S or do they just run the same ??
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
They run much the same, but the s is at a lower resolution, normally 1080 p
@darshodaddelt
@darshodaddelt 2 жыл бұрын
tree and buildiung render distance on Series S is rather low, a couple of miles at best. If you fly low it's ok and if you fly above the clouds it's also ok. if you fly medium altitude in clear weather it's noticable. Also currently still has pop-ins of graphical objetcs. But all in all it's very usable.
@The_Arby
@The_Arby 2 жыл бұрын
@@darshodaddelt Cheers mate :-)
@karthiksampath9095
@karthiksampath9095 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the main issue is the memory. With S u get abt 360gigs freespace and flightsim takes up around 150gb and more if have add-ons. With X u don't have to worry abt memory. That's why I'm leaning towards the X. Others please correct me if I'm wrong.
@ZZstaff
@ZZstaff 2 жыл бұрын
I found that I liked 1440p more than 4K on a PC, and my screen is a 55" 120Hz Samsung Q80T, QLED. And that is with an MSI RTX 3090 SUPRIM X.
@wolfecanada6726
@wolfecanada6726 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with 1440p. I have a 32" curved Samsung 144hz 1440p monitor.
@gregponty
@gregponty Жыл бұрын
Hi, I know his video was recorded a while back, so hope you see this message. I want to get my son either a Xbox or PC or gaming Laptop for Christmas. What would be the best choice on a budget? He is only 9 years old!!! But so enthusiastic about flight simulators and wants to become a pilot in future. He even has a KZbin channel with tens of thousands of viewers regarding planes and flying!!!! It’s all beyond me lol! But the obvious upgrade is to Microsoft Flight simulator. So what device should I get to run it (and also record the flights for KZbin) without going rediculous on price for a nine year old? (We are based in the UK, plus abroad at times, so portability is a bonus). Cheers
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS Жыл бұрын
I would recommend an Xbox series X. Portable, less hassle with configuration etc. Recording on KZbin is the only draw back, bit more complicated. Need a video capture card for live capture or usb memory stick (64gb or more) to record session….then transfer to pc for upload to KZbin. Xbox headphones recommended for recording voice.
@gregponty
@gregponty Жыл бұрын
@@SimHangerFS Thanks very much for the reply.
@user-zc9zt2vl5s
@user-zc9zt2vl5s 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, but your voice is quite low. Next time increase the volume on your mic please.
@afistfulofpimples1745
@afistfulofpimples1745 2 жыл бұрын
No, please decrease your mic volume instead.
@aurimasandrijauskas2172
@aurimasandrijauskas2172 11 ай бұрын
Nice video, thank you. One question: Can xbox x run msfs @ 60 fps?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 11 ай бұрын
Yes, Xbox series X running 1440p upscaled from 1080p
@aurimasandrijauskas2172
@aurimasandrijauskas2172 11 ай бұрын
@@SimHangerFS thank you for fast respond. I bought xbox x, should get it tomorrow. Now I am looking for flight stick and can’t decide should I get Turtle beach velocity stick or Thrustmaster TCA (xbox version) what you would chose in my place? Thank you.
@MrNeilRoberts
@MrNeilRoberts 2 жыл бұрын
Can you run VR on Xbox …? Nope Once you’ve experienced MSFS in VR you will never look back ! But if you do … you will see what’s behind you.
@bentennyson2398
@bentennyson2398 2 жыл бұрын
All is needed is an update that's all, but Microsoft refuse to do it.
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 2 жыл бұрын
I have an lg C1 oled 4k tv that has 120 hz, and I have all settings on xbox turned on to allow 4k 60 fps, but it still stutters and runs at 30. It sometimes gets 60 if I'm sitting in an empty airport with nothing happening and I'm panning my camera. But other than that, it really is mostly choppy all the time. 30 is choppy to me after getting used to 60 and up.
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 2 жыл бұрын
You need a fast and stable internet connection. 100MB/sec is my minimum to run FS 2020 on either console or Xbox Series X.
@fw190pilot7
@fw190pilot7 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if i missed it but what is the spec of the monitor you are using for the xbox?
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am using a BenQ 32” monitor running at 60 Hz
@fw190pilot7
@fw190pilot7 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a true comparison would be a XBox S and a top end PC. Sadly the Series X isn't at all a fair comparison.
@gotters
@gotters 2 жыл бұрын
A slightly different way of looking at one aspect of the end summary about good first year support and things getting strained now with the Xbox version out - I'd say that PC players only got the level of game you've seeing in the first year as this was always funded with a dual pc/console release planned so PC players have got used to something which wouldn't have been supported to that level if a PC exclusive. You needed the console gamepass bucks to get the platform where it is now. Some would be happy I guess with a lesser PC only game but I don't subscribe to the view the console will hold this back, the console made this what it is in the first place thru funding.
@SimHangerFS
@SimHangerFS 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly valid viewpoint
@BL00MYB0Y
@BL00MYB0Y 2 жыл бұрын
I had this on Series S and couldn’t believe how good it ran on a £249 console, absolutely stunning. I’ve since upgraded to a Series X and I’m still enjoying Flight Sim very much. So much so that I’m considering upgrading to a PC and would love to be able to use this in VR. Just the small hurdle of the huge price of entry I have to overcome 🤔 (I don’t currently own a PC)
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't bother mate. The Series X is all you need. One thing you MUST have is a very fast internet connection! Mine is 100MB/sec and I'm in 4K on an 86" LG 4K UHD TV and I get rock solid 60fps no matter where I fly or what aircraft I use. I always run live satellite data, live weather and live air traffic as well. I see a LOT of PC guys with RTX 3090Ti's etc that have so much stutter and popup it would drive me nuts. FS 2020 is totally dependent on streaming data to show you low latency realistic visuals of the entire planet. Cheers.
@BL00MYB0Y
@BL00MYB0Y 2 жыл бұрын
@@theaustralianconundrum how do you get 60 fps on Xbox. Do you get it with VRR ? My TV is too old for VRR. The internet is shit where I live, I only get 30mb download and 5mb up 🤦‍♂️. I have all the live satellite data on but get a lot of stutter In cities
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@BL00MYB0Y Firstly. Xbox Series X is designed for 4K @ 120fps. It's printed on the box! FS 2020 relies on fast internet to allow a high frame rate otherwise if you put on live sat data and real time weather and live air traffic all that will pull the frame rate down where it's un flyable. My internet is 100MB/sec rock solid. 30MB/sec is fine if you don't use streaming live sat data and real weather and live air traffic.
@BL00MYB0Y
@BL00MYB0Y 2 жыл бұрын
@@theaustralianconundrum I’m not a moron, I know it’s capable of 120 FPS, it’s just all the videos I’ve seen have never been a stable 60fps on Xbox. I always have the live streaming on but multiplayer off and generally it runs acceptable, just a few stutters in built up areas. It’s normally worse after Asobo release a major update for it. As far as I’m aware Flight Sim is capped at 30 fps on console
@theaustralianconundrum
@theaustralianconundrum 2 жыл бұрын
@@BL00MYB0Y I didn't say you were a moron. lol I don't use multiplayer. Almost every KZbinr who have videos have very slow internet connections. It doesn't matter if they are running an RTX 3090Ti as many do, I still see poor frame rates. I find every Asobo update improves the performance for me. Have a lovely day sweetheart!
@currololo
@currololo 2 жыл бұрын
I am a VR-pilot only, so PC is my choice although performance in VR is far from optimum.
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