MICSIG SATO1004 | REVIEW AND COMPARISON TO THE ATO1104 | A GOOD CHOICE FOR AUTOMOTIVE TECHS?

[@stephenmarshall5302]

This was a very well put together video. I've been an admirer of the micsig for a while

[@ScannerDanner]

Thanks for the review Mario! I have this company reaching out to me so see if i want to review the product and to be honest, from what im seeing, this is almost identical to the Topdon Phoenix Max lab scope that i already have, other than the scope having to be connected via USB to the tablet itself. Can you confirm that these scopes are basically the same? (Although i really like the actual buttons and some of those features! ) I really don't need another lab scope lol. Maybe if i accept, ill do a giveaway. But then all the rules with giveaways and the consequences of doing them wrong have always scared me away from that.

[@marinkojezabek2555]

I recently bought the SATO 1004. It is an awesome oscilloscope, and I found it far superior to the ATO 1104. Good review Mario.

[@MechanicTechnicianRepair]

Exselente demonstration osilocopio micsig sato el.mas nuevo ke estas matrando pregunta master cual el traduce ke se usa ese osilocopio micsig grasia

[@fredsalter1915]

I think you meant bit depth (resolution) when you referred to the quality of the signal image at 19:30 The higher the bit depth, the more faithful the image on the scope screen is to the actual signal. My Pico 4225A has a 12-bit resolution. I tried to look up the resolution of the Micsig scopes on google, but I couldn't find that info. Thanks Mario!!!

[@mrfishbulb7187]

The micsig has 8 bit resolution.

[@fredsalter1915]

@@mrfishbulb7187 Only 8-bits? That's not that great.... Thanks for the info.

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

For me, the quality(res) i get is more than sufficient, like in 8:30 For automotive, anything more just leads to more noise imo

[@ThunderbirdRocket]

Thanks ! I think your presentation / analysis was very beneficial !! You just gave us an exceptionally good lesson and we are going to be able to approach buying one with the best insight from a very qualified expert !!

[@marianodeocampo5569]

Are the picoscope probe cables compatible with the SATO? Looks like the same connection styles w that extra part of the BNC - looks the same as 4425A

[@Noneya-rh1gi]

I'm wanting to have a 4 channel over a 2 channel do you have experience with the aultel scope? On the fence between that and the micsig sato 1004

[@arthurfricchione8119]

Mario thanks for sharing. I win the earlier one but it is fine for my needs. Yes the buttons are a nice feature and the comparison you just did between the two of them is spot on. Mario you and family stay safe and well and enjoy your new scope 👍

[@MechanicTechnicianRepair]

exselente master pregunta trabaja bien ese osilocopio

[@howlinhog]

I wish there was a left-handed model (strap on the right). I sold my micsig that is the earlier version with buttons. I was constantly picking it up with my right hand and accidentally pushing function buttons.

[@javiermarrero4229]

Thanks Mario 👍

[@jessemackenzie6516]

On the older t book mini do you get weird ignition waveforms? At the end of a primary waveform I get a huge hump (peaks at 30 volts 10 to 12 ms long) It occurs after the final coil oscillations . Its not present on my Pico, ATS , Snap On Verus ect..... I tried different probes with no luck. I love it for a quick easy scope. I am a emergency power generation tech and I like to keep it on the front seat to grab a quick measurement.

[@scientist100]

That's it. I'm selling my 4425a, my verus pro, my two Hantek scopes and buying this one that does it all. I'm keeping my 2204b 4 channel pico scope for kicks and my MT Pro 4.1 8 channels from Rotkee

[@DJ-tn7vj]

💩😊😊😊🙄🤪

[@AutoDiag_]

Are you using CSS script on your mtpro 4.1?

[@scientist100]

@@AutoDiag_ no, the stock app. What script is this that you speak of? The app is pretty much complete. The only thing that I notice is that if the sample rate is too high and 4 or more channels are used, it errors out but I learned that it is because of the sample rate of 1M.

[@phillipzan2005]

I am interested in hearing/seeing more about the powered bnc. Ever since pico came out with theur bnc+ I been wanting to see more products plus get some diy connectors to play with since I'm an electronics nerd.

[@brendanm915]

Are they able to allow custom probe setups on this yet?

[@bensiemers5094]

Hi Mario, will the Mig Sig be capable of recording an overnight trace for hunting down parasitic drains? Looks like a powerful scope.

[@alexanderorozco661]

Thank you brother 🥋

[@johnhill3644]

whats proper website to buy from. see many with huge price differences. knock offs?

[@ascecricket4041]

Ali express does very reasonable prices

[@NicksStuff]

It doesn't come with reference waveforms, though, does it?

[@VashthStampeede]

I do like that the new one looks less Fisher Price. Nice, informative video Mario. Hard to look professional using a Speak n Spell. Remember, the cow says moo.

[@atomsworkshop195]

Fischer Price 😂 That’s a good description. That had me rolling

[@alf699]

Excellent video. 👍

[@ABaumstumpf]

6 hours is a longer battery life than any laptop you know? It really depends on what laptops you are looking for, but 10h+ is not uncommon. Still for a portable Osci this is way more suited than a laptop. zooming - no pinch-zoom (zooming with 2 fingers like on a phone)?

[@sonofmontezuma3732]

Since snap on no longer sells the vantage this is a contender for Stand alone

[@EonTide1111]

Is it only meant of automotive techs or could a industrial electrician benefit from this for testing plc outputs and other electronics ?

[@atomsworkshop195]

Hello. I have the SATO1004, and I’m curious about the external ground plug on the side of the scope. Micsig said it is to connect to Mains ground. My question is: when and why would you use this? Thanks in advance for your response. PS, Keep the videos coming. Love the info.

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

Never needed to use it

[@atomsworkshop195]

I’m in the same field, only mobile. So I guess if you don’t need it, neither do I. Thanks for the quick response bro.

[@ousmanesarr7287]

Please can you show the cursor? Does is show engine rotation angle with tye cursor

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

Yes it does, you'll be able to see crank angle cursors

[@ousmanesarr7287]

Thanks.they never updared the ato since the begining.

[@zekzygaming5128]

Does the sato1004 have floating grounds or do they share a ground?

[@KingLoopie1]

Yeah, I got the ato1104 last year... Wished it had knobs... Figures... 😉👍

[@electricsanti4518]

Would U recomend buying the portable which is is cheaper or this micsig, is it worth it paying more and why

[@mr.technician2638]

How to use attenuator for that scope? Or no need?

[@michelinigiani3742]

Very nice device. Is the screen protector on or are you not using it?

[@leomcalla29]

Hey Mario, when I bought mine I got some colored boot to attach to the bnc and it serves also as a dust cap when it's not in use.

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

Interesting, just checked again, my sato1004 didn't bring the caps lol

[@keltecshooter]

Are the channels floating ground ?

[@bmwautonerd]

Good stuff Super "M"

[@matthewdale174]

Appreciate the comparison Where would u snatch the 1104 from at best price?

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

Check out the link in the description

[@schammo8893]

Hi Mario what is the safe voltage input on this u it without having to grab an attenuator

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

300v

[@josegriman9012]

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[@nickhibberd1897]

Nice comparison

[@minirey360]

Hey Mario, I just ordered this per your recommendation. Only issue is I updated the unit and the resolution is pretty bad. Did this happen to you? I’m talking the screen resolution. Everything was crisp. Now it’s way ugly.

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

That has not happened to me. May want to contact support about that

[@minirey360]

@@SuperMarioDiagnostics hey it turns out my sampling rate was off. Do you think you could explain to me why at 100ms the scope seems to draw the waveform slower than 200ms? I’m new to this and you’re a channel I’ve been following for this kind of stuff.

[@alexdragomirescu5084]

Hi, I just got mine today and the resolution is pretty blurry...not just in scope mode...even in home mode. Is this what you were talking abou? Did you solved? Looks like 240p :))

[@minirey360]

@@alexdragomirescu5084yeah running a calibration and also lowering the amount of channels on does the trick. I sold it for an ATS Escope. I have owned too many scopes and this was my least favorite. Stupid confusing exterior buttons had me constantly clicking the wrong knob. The software is bad too, and the android version was butchered no full access to settings and you can’t sideload Google Apps. Just bad experience all around. A uscope is more intuitive than this, and people know how much of a PITA the uscope can be for a beginner.

[@alexdragomirescu5084]

@@minirey360 I just bought an verus edge. What a difference. That been said, the micsig is better for CAN stuff. On the ignition/injection side is a different planet. I'll have to keep the micsig because I doubt I can sell it. Most of mechanics don't even know what an oscilloscope is... so let's say it's ok as a backup scope, but I wouldn't buy it again.

[@vlstyles]

Does this have Frequency MATH function (as you pointed out with the Pico in one of your videos)

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

I don't see a way to plot frequency. But I'll keep digging

[@billshaughnessy3955]

what probe did you use for the secondary capture?

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

I used the pico secondary clamp

[@davidgriffin14]

I've been looking at getting a scope. Why do some cost hundreds of dollars, and some are only a hundred or two?

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

You really get what you pay for. Some have much more features than others, better resolution, build quality and longevity, etc

[@djosbun]

You get what you pay for. Resolution, sample rate, software quality (and ease of use). The cheap scopes suck (except for the UScope).

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

@@djosbun JYNX!

[@djosbun]

@@SuperMarioDiagnostics LOL!!!

[@chadgardee1496]

How is this compared too the pico?

[@pbl57lsu]

the sato1004 is the same software as the sto with the automotive functions in addition? and what is the lowest bandwidth filter for the sato? thanks for the great video!

[@jordanjensen3875]

Hey man, I want to thank you for your DETAILED review. I run into a lot of those "yeah, it's really good because its good" kind of reviews that just waste a guys time. THIS, was not one of those! Also, if I may...around the 13:00 min mark you were talking about the colored probes...just a thought, but anytime i've bought a 1x/10x standard probe, it's arrived with a set of (EXTREMELY FLIMSY) colored rings to mark the BNC end and the probe end whatever color you want...did your scope not come with any of them?

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

I believe it only came with their differential probes. Been a while so I’ll have to look into that. Thanks!

[@ibrahimwaheed987]

Mario good review.

[@htownblue11]

What’s your opinion on the MicSig versus PicoAutomotive / Picoscope? I like the features you showcase on the Micsig but also like some of the Pico features. Either way great insight into a very useful diag tool.

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

Pico is still king for me. But quick grab, confirming commands and things of that nature, i grab the micsig first. In cylinder, pulse sensor testing, correlation waveforms, or long time base(pico does 13 hours versus 3.8 hours from micsig) i grab the pico

[@zekzygaming5128]

Does the micsig have floating grounds like the pico?

[@franciscodiez5825]

Great video! Since you have two maybe you should hook a friend up........🤷 Just saying......😂

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[@johnpaulgarrett1]

Before the Automotive Industry targeted SATO1004 there was the Automotive ATO1104 without buttons and the general purpose nonAutomotive targeted STO1104 with buttons. I bought the STO because i wanted the luxury of having both Touchscreen and Buttons. It turned out to be a stupid decision because i am an auto mechanic and not having a scope with Automotive presets and menus in which you can specify automotive tests and have the machine SET ITSELF UP for the test voltage and timewise was a huge failure. Even the Help section of the Automotive guides you with Automotive tests in mind. It turned out the advantage of the buttons was nowhere near as beneficial as being able to go to a menu that says Coil Test or Cylinder Relative Compression Test Or Fuel Injector Test and clicking on it and having it tell you how to hook your leads to the car...it does everything but drive the car into the bay for you. Anyway, i bought the nonautomotive STO and now that the new SATO is out i can have both my buttons and my AUTOMOTIVE CAPABILITY in one easy to use money making diagnostic powerhouse. Of course, you can do every test on the old non automotive machine as you can on the new machine, but you have to figure out how to do the lead hookups and how to setup the triggers and the time and volts values on your own and by the time you figure out all of this crap you are already an hour in the hole and if you had the new automotive specific scope you would have diagnosed it and had the parts replaced and the car rolled out of the shop already. So i'm selling my old STO1104E-PLUS on E-Bay at a huge discount and buying my new SATO1004 tonight on Amazon and Super Mario's fantastic comparison cemented the deal. Thanks Mario!

[@SuperMarioDiagnostics]

I would encourage every technician to become proficient with a scope. Then you would not be wasting anytime in hooking it up to a car. Sure it's nice to have the scope do it for you, but that shouldn't be a replacement for mastering the scope imo

[@BradKwfc]

Does the A is SATO for mean Automotive?