Mid Game Combat has Completely Changed in Oldschool Runescape!

Today oldschool runescape has received a massive combat rebalance for magic and ranged. Today we are going to be focusing on magic to see what has practically changed.
Not only has magic gear been completely rebalanced, monsters now have elemental weakneses as well. This can mean some pretty massive max hits, even for lower level spells.
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[@justanothersteve2246]

Tanz fang on test kill, no reaction. 😂

[@Ram3nForDinner]

I was more excited than him! lol

[@FullyRegarded]

its like 2.5m that's legit nothing.

[@schivers]

@@FullyRegarded its actually legit 2,498,314 coins :-)

[@FlokiTech]

Probably because the recording is not live and he does voice over.

[@krusecontrol97]

Just got 355kc still no unique. This is pain.

[@ElysianAura]

Wind staff chads, we're eating good now

[@simpleman7516]

the fact this r*t%rd shows an excel spreadsheet with no headings scrolling down is almost worse than playing the GE in osrs while being broke irl is insane.

[@drumline17]

​@simpleman7516 take a deep breath and try to communicate those thoughts a little bit better

[@ghosti79]

@@simpleman7516 Someone is a angry boy

[@Chickentorchic]

​@@simpleman7516 make your own then nerd

[@thegrandexchange]

@@simpleman7516pretty sure there's headings ya buffoon

[@MaxaMauler]

Something else I don’t see anyone talking about, the first few basic prayers you unlock have had their drain rate reduced MAJORLY.. you can basically have one of them on all the time with very little prayer drain. It’s like a free 5% bonus

[@Sanguivore]

That’s dope! :D

[@Xinderkan]

Not only that, they also made it actually relevant at the level you get it, where it will now act like a +1 to the stat when the stat is below 20, like it qctually does something for low level accs, that's pretty neat!

[@headlock129]

Thats neat

[@swirle13]

Drain goes from something like 5.37 points to 1 point per second(?) drain

[@Sader2]

It's kinda already been like that

[@TheDragonshunter]

They can now design raids and bosses with this in mind. I think I haven't ever cast an elemental wave other than fire...

[@davidsamson1453]

I'm pretty sure this has been on at least some mods' minds for years now. Think about Ice Demon in Chambers of Xeric and its weakness to fire spells. That's been in the game since 2017

[@JoeyP946]

Like taking 3/4th of your inventory for just switches and weapons isn't enough

[@momoney0157]

​@@JoeyP946exactly, endgame content is already enough, I really don't want to give up thralls and bring extra magic switches just to account for each elemental weakness

[@Rabidconscience]

One thing that’s kinda weird now that all the elemental spells deal the same damage as each other against most creatures means that for most creatures Air is now the best because it’s cheaper per cast. Especially since you need air runes regardless of what element you are using

[@spencersuttie4631]

So happy to see these changes implemented! Wonder what will happen with spaghetti code, already issues with Thralls!

[@purplebeard806]

What is spaghetti code?

[@rcatron10]

Spaghetti code means that things are intertwined In a way that when you change one thing it affect many things. Like pulling on a string of Spaghetti, you're very likely to pull on other noodles.

[@moon_jesus4k477]

@@purplebeard806its a term used by people who have been playing runescape too long and they hate everything about the game because theyre burnt out and need a break and it causes them to call the game unplayable even with +30 total days play time.

[@xXpkedXx]

Glad you used some realistic gear setup rather than going for max gear

[@BrandingChangeYep]

As they did mention in the post, these changes were meant to not be very impactful at all immediately more of a lever to pull when making new content / items so i'm ok with them not being super impactful for the range / mage weaknesses.

[@GriffZ98]

I love this change. It only makes sense that something like a Fire Giant would be weak to water spells

[@PopcornSandwich]

New players are often recommended to do Magic-only for their first Zulrah kills (for the diary especially), I wonder how easy that'll be now. Looking forward to testing it out.

[@andrewcarrillo2940]

Time to sell my bowfa and whip out the combination staffs 😂

[@xanderbrindle]

I high alched to 99 to make money, afk. I've never bossed, but I want to. I'm so excited.

[@andrearruda5572]

@@xanderbrindle How do you afk high alch if you need to click on it always?

[@PopcornSandwich]

@@andrearruda5572 Probably just mindlessly tapping a key bound to left-click while you do other things, some people even use a footpedal for this sort of activity. OSRS players have strange definitions of 'afk'.

[@iDrunkRS]

​​@@PopcornSandwichwell considering he auto clicked, that's not a weird definition when he literally wasn't at his keyboard.

[@theshiftybloke4672]

Moles are actually quite good swimmers :(

[@xieotv2386]

Are you a mole enthusiest?

[@Thies-]

unplayable

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

Not when you smash a bolt of water in their face

[@matheuscardoso-e32]

immersion ruined

[@jaymay7957]

Except when you flood the holes they drown

[@wiznz3659]

Something you may have seen since the update dropped, Flames of Zamorak + Charge + Toxic Staff can hit 50+ with elite void, any off-hand with at least 2%, occult, and eternals

[@justjared7445]

Crafted so many wraths on the iron when going for 99 rc. Just to blow them at barrows

[@robertgibson963]

Damn, I'm at 900 kc with no fang on my iron. that hurt me

[@mrball5766]

that sounds hard to believe

[@boringfactor8792]

​@@mrball5766 that sounds easy to believe

[@robertgibson963]

@@mrball5766 Many irons are much drier than me lmfao

[@Zehiret]

Almost 1100 kc for first tanz fang :)

[@MrJacobpaul21]

1850 with no magic fang, keep on grinding boys, it's bound to happen

[@jawstrock2215]

elemental weakness was not to be the new best method, just a good alternative method.. so that looks like it was successful in that. + they can add elemental weapons now :) Also: MASSIVE F2P BUFF RIGHT HERE!

[@Ragatokk]

looks just bad to me, even edge case zulrah is nearly the same it was before.

[@andrewcarrillo2940]

Mist smoke steam staffs should go up 😂

[@cuttlefish6839]

​@@Ragatokkthis could also be future proofing instead of trying to massively change the current game. So for example they add new bosses or raids that are better done using specific elements or switching elements like with daganoth mother...what if they add dagganoth queen lol

[@homiga1]

@@Ragatokk That's the whole point, it's not to nuke things but to increase the depth they can design content with. Having a boss where their elemental weakness, ammo type weakness and melee type weakness changes per phase is now possible. Before all you could really do was change weakness from melee to range to magic.

[@-ZH]

@@Ragatokk Yup, if everything is almost exactly the same, you gotta gz the osrs team

[@MainUkraine]

"I don't know how many people are doing barrows at 95 magic" - me bored with 98 magic

[@__gavin__]

6:53 Perhaps an application for Accursed Sceptre spec? It lowers defence and magic by 15% 8:47 You can also use Sunfire Runes for better dps

[@Brianfultz805]

The tomes also give a +10% damage and accuracy increase, on top of a slayer helm and prayer with the elemental damage!? Max gear and surge spell probably hit 65+

[@mercurial4ever]

Interested in 1hour of rune dragons with magic only.

[@whateverppl1229]

considering you can afk with melee, prob not worth it.

[@chanthanh3489]

@@whateverppl1229 kinda afk with melee, but with this update magic is like a 50% buff over all dmg and accurate

[@Riyoshi000]

@@whateverppl1229dragonhunter staff when

[@Quethonable]

@@Riyoshi000 a dragonbane wand is being released with the group boss in varlamore

[@PaladinfffLeeroy]

Summoning commencing... Target of summoning spell: MrNoSleep

[@snowgibson2982]

With every update, the game becomes easier. I maxed 33 with magic Now i can hit 50s. Idk how they think this isn't power creep

[@jamessawyer8744]

I left my windows down in the truck and now the interior is covered in pollen

[@chaselast3626]

my next fire giant task gonna pop off

[@jonathanc3001]

4:00 you forgot that trident has a faster attack speed of 4 ticks vs the 5 tick speed of wind wave.

[@geoffreywerth6060]

I kept thinking this, he repeatedly said the max hit is the same and it's cheaper... But it's also slower

[@Jacksin24]

They removed the 1 tick penalty of auto cast, does that not affect this? Or was it 6 ticks before?

[@jonathanc3001]

@@Jacksin24 they didn’t change the attack rate of autocast spells. They made it so it doesn’t take a tick to start attacking after you click on the enemy. The rate of fire is still the same at 5 ticks.

[@geoffreywerth6060]

@@jonathanc3001 this exactly! It's really nice because before normal spells were terribly slow anywhere you had to move a lot during combat like raids because they had an extra tick delay on top of their already slow attack speed.

[@vvvidya]

Next time I get a fire giant task I'll try out magic, that looks pretty fun

[@robertreynolds4908]

Why do I feel that elemental arrows are inevitable now?

[@tachyon3512]

We already got fire and ice arrows, they should do something too

[@eagleclaws1781]

@@tachyon3512 Yea the fact theyre only really used for quests is kind of dissapointing, so having elemental aspects that have an effect on combat would be nice. Same for Melee Weapons and Armor in particular, it would be amazing to have Dark Souls similar Buff Items that could give your Melee Weapon a temporary elemental Bonus for a few seconds, or even be a bit weaker but permament similar to poison

[@gvccihvcci]

The elemental scaling damage on level is how it's done in RS3. And then it's also capped by your weapon, so all blast spells end up at the same damage as long as your weapon isn't a lower level than the highest damage one does. It is a great balance idea did they do it with slayer dart too?

[@nathanharmon8971]

Chaos gaunts require Family Crest, which has a much higher magic requirement.

[@michael_betts]

52 for mains with forgotten brew, 56 for irons with mind bomb.

[@ImEgotistical]

There’s a 59 magic req on family crest

[@male_maid5951]

i mean who doesnt use a magic boost to get through that?

[@goldmedicine]

can you link the spread sheet with the weaknesses

[@lebowski6061]

This update is also massive for the tome of water. And as an example, with Black Demons now 40% weaker to water spells you absolutely melt through them

[@ChillLee24]

Feels like the game is changing so fast recently.. went years of just nothingness now the game is getting overhauled it feels 😂

[@zysofup3246]

My only concern is the drastic changing having something like EOC happening and destroying the game again.

[@PaladinfffLeeroy]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Jamflex's owners want the player numbers and positive opinions on the game to skyrocket so they can make more money selling Jamflex off...

[@justinb8297]

​Lol more play numbers? This is most likely gonna make them lose subscribers. Changing shit in the game that's always been that way is fuckin stupid. ​@@PaladinfffLeeroy

[@TRUENORTHER93]

yea i quit for the 3rd or 4th time now maybe ill try again in another 10 years

[@male_maid5951]

@@justinb8297 disagree this is nothing but buffs to certain damages. if u want to ignore this, you'll pretty much have the same experience as before. tho only real nerf was the time of fire going down, but eh?

[@k2a2l2]

i was worried they changed stuff too much but this is great and definitely makes sense for the game

[@johnnyboy1513]

Thank you someone understands it's been changed too much

[@gothbossbaby]

@@johnnyboy1513 reading comprehension is hard

[@KeytarArgonian]

I’m just starting a HC and honestly I’m looking forward to playing the game like this.

[@diegogarcia-serna9773]

Really excited for this update!

[@Jamsterman25]

The best reason to mage giant mole is because splashes can’t cause digging. But you really should only use shadow because of the accuracy

[@Nebuli2]

Why use a steam battlestaff for water strike when the mist battlestaff removes the need for anything but chaos runes all while costing a mere 80k?

[@FlippingOldschool]

+10% dmg for standard spells

[@Nebuli2]

@@FlippingOldschool Oh huh, TIL. Thanks!

[@bluejay8836]

Please bring back Guild Only series! That was so fun to watch

[@kenplaysgames9692]

My concern here is, can you find this information reasonably in game? NPC Examine is fine and all, but it's a Lunar spell and the new weakness changes are entirely on the Standard spellbook.

[@MainUkraine]

Rip 3 iteming for near max magic dmg in wilderness

[@surfingbilly9654]

the one huge thing is zulrah with zamorak flames, becomes a significantly better option then trident of the swamp in terms of dps

[@Ray01360]

Awesome. As a player who loves Magic, this makes me happy.

[@disthymia6929]

Lol, here I am with 99 magic doing Barrows getting called out. Only 89 cmb though.

[@andrewsharif6017]

Collections logs matter I still do it and I’m 99 range magic hit points and prayer lol

[@warryen]

I think it would be cool if they finally got rid of burnt pages and soaked pages (or whatever the water equivalent is) or if they made 1 page something like 1000 charges. From an Ironman perspective I can’t imagine anyone ever using it for combat. You don’t get many from 1-99 Wintertodt, and now the damage is almost negligible considering the effort required to get them. I would think that almost everyone out there stops Wintertodt at 99 firemaking, and then just burn through their pages and never use the tome again (except skilling because it doesn’t use charges). Charges kind of make the tomes dead content for anyone that isn’t able to buy their pages from the bots that are supplying the GE. I love this update though, it’s cool that the other three elements are FINALLY useful for something.

[@moon_jesus4k477]

All these people saying the game sucks and the devs suck and the games unplayable smh. If you arent enjoying the game and its unplayable then why are you playing and watching runescape content. Great video tysm!

[@tingaling77]

Im really interested to see how wind spell harmonized orb does against Kree with its new weakness

[@danmoua7686]

9:25 wow i didnt know Rune Dragon could be maged on...

[@xMrjamjam]

I was waiting for full crystal to go with my bowfa on my iron to do zulrah but now im probably gonna rush 95 rcing as theres no other way to consistently easily get wraths, if shops like the mage training arena shop sold them for points it would have been great but now i finally have other options. I have memory problems so bosses that require memory to beat them like rotations makes them insanely high tier difficulty for me

[@DeesulDaddy]

Wind spells better for barrows now vs Ibans blast?

[@Chadward_]

30% wind weakness on krearra is a troll, 33% hit chance on task with staff of the dead, ahrims, eternals, etc

[@LoveSpellzFB]

All that gear, including both occult and tormented brracelet, only to have 2.5% more damage than if you had on either the nightmare staff/kodai or TSOTD on their own naked

[@1423bdog]

I haven't tested it, but did they change the xp rewarded from each spell to match for each element of a cast style? Kind of lame that if you want to use the style it is weak to you also get slightly less xp. Isn't crazy or game changing just something that seems to be overlooked with this update.

[@Tekzyyy]

Me not keeping my soulreaper axe and sold at 300m.. the feels man

[@geoffreywerth6060]

Trident is faster wirh basically the same max hit plus thralls option. Other than for afk training magic on slayer task I dont see any change worth changing my current gear for but I do look forward how they will impliment future bosses with weaknesses

[@DoctorSpacebar]

I wonder, will these be additive or multiplicative with the proposed Dragonbane wand?

[@Jakaup]

Tested 11 runs at barrows air surge all 6. whip skele and worm. Its beast 41 max in ahrims bottom, top, occult eternals. 97 mage no pot

[@zaswsaz]

My best weapon on the iron for a long time now has been harm. Max hit was 49 on zulrah. Surely it cant be worse now right? .... ima cry

[@Mad-v3d]

Karils has the same magic defense as the other brothers, if im not mistaken. Despite him wearing karils, he's not more resilient to magic than any of the others.

[@JujuShinobi]

I need that harm orb you borrowed sir

[@TPCShane]

With mole can it still dig below 50% HP if you splash?

[@YewJackOSRS]

I would expect so... I know for sure it will dig on 0's with other styles (which in my mind is equivalent to splashing since they are changing the minimum hit).

[@xanderbrindle]

I was hitting 34 with the swamp trident on fire giants the other day.

[@Tonyisgaming]

At 70 coins a cast? You’re trippin.

[@DownChucked]

As someone who really never looked into getting better gear (combat skills hovering around 50) and enjoys skilling most of all, these changes might be the factor that I needed to get into more PvM and actually investing in some gear.

[@apart-timeastronaut6530]

Yes but how does this affect the fight caves and jad?!

[@sagebauer1077]

not at all? none of the tzhaar nor any mobs in the fights caves have an elemental weakness

[@apart-timeastronaut6530]

@@sagebauer1077 thank you. This is bad noos for a newb like me

[@Ohanrahan]

Im just about to start Dragon Slayer 2. I wonder if it affect those dragons aswell. I mean i would assume so. I was gonna go in with my Trident, but i wonder if i should just Earth wave them now and if that does more damage then the trident. Its really something for me to think about now which is insane.

[@Toraghammer]

iv been playing runescape since 2006 and iv never heard of a cursed amulet of magic what is that ? is that somethng from a quest that i just flew through not realizing

[@Hash1Suspect]

Looks like it

[@Thewhitekorean]

New item added this update that reduces magic damage by 80%. Maybe it's for splashing? Not sure

[@Yltimate_]

@Thewhitekorean yea splashing and or luring 2t npcs

[@Hash1Suspect]

Just checked the wiki it says A cursed amulet of magic is an amulet dropped by necromancers in Great Kourend. It provides the lowest magic damage bonus for any item at -80%.

[@sagebauer1077]

AFAIK It's for account that are trying to keep their combat level really low but need to be able to hit monsters still for some reason? I don't fully understand. Lots of weird snowflake accounts out there

[@namesurname8423]

So this is in game now? Can I finally drop my stupid smol bow and cast some Water spell against Fire monsters?

[@flake8382]

Zulrah feels like it just got opened up to me. Anyone know if Ibans counts as a fire spell?

[@guusgeluk3693]

it doesnt

[@LPcrazy_88]

This update is absolutely massive and also quite tame tbh. Look at the monsters this affects, in the grand scheme of things it's a very small list. Anyone calling this the EoC update is illiterate or just being obtuse.

[@Never_Lucky47]

No, this is quadrilateral!

[@Never_Lucky47]

No, this is quadrilateral!

[@LPcrazy_88]

@@Never_Lucky47 no, this is polygonal.

[@SmokinSquirrelRS]

slippery slope, this is one update that changed the entirety of the game. Magic bonus wise, and ranged wise.

[@LPcrazy_88]

@@ryan6766 nah I got the play on obtuse, was just trying to lean into it, but clearly that didn't translate.

[@Shay-vk7le]

Just reached midgame yesterday and then this happens

[@JampsD3]

Not saying anything about those rune dragon bots? They been down there on tons of worlds in same setup for quite a while now, I did a rune drag task almost 2 weeks ago and had to hop 3 times for a world that had 1 dragon without a bot killing it.

[@FreelancerAlpha1-1]

Get your arcane prayer scrolls now, boys. That thing tanked like a rock

[@mbos14]

with this new balance change wouldnt it be better to remove wind rune requirement from the other elemental spells.

[@patrickhouse9005]

That’s not a bad point

[@meowlmeow-td7fz]

so water bolt actualy is lvl 59 atleast with chaos gaunts, since you cant get them before then

[@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies]

Not saying its bad, but how is this not power creep? Isn't avoiding power creep a main motivator behind their decisions - like nerfing the bp a while back?

[@TheSummerwine1]

Seeing elemental spells hit so high makes it feel like I'm playing leagues or something hah

[@blunttank]

Interesting to see it in safe spotting shamans

[@mikel1062]

Can you link to the spreadsheet you refer to?

[@bananaappleism]

Can you link the DPS spreadsheet?

[@TachoPrice]

Yes please I tried to find it but I can't find it ATM in mobile

[@smitty867]

Do you also run the channel Just rolled in?

[@xylen22]

does the smoke staff give % damage? The Ahrims staff gives 5% which is what i'm using at barrows with elite void

[@LoreleiBlaine]

yeah. iirc it's also 5%, and is the only combination stave that does so, for some reason.

[@kanifis]

Seems smart. 10% right there I'll test it out. Will be using blue moon staff until I can get mages book or the malediction ward, or an elidinis

[@lughfiregod16]

Now if only elemental spells being good weren't gated behind a fucking 600m staff.

[@JoeyP946]

"Don't know any people doing barrows at 95 magic" Here I am, lvl 120 ironman with 95 magic, going for my 500th chest with 0 ahrims pieces so far

[@brazen3550]

"dont know whos doing barrows with 95 magic" : me with 105

[@dennisbergkamp1553]

So does this mean low/mid level mage pkers are completely nerfed? With occult and tome nerfed so heavily

[@just_mike_]

Casting water wave on fire giants just screams old school lol. Update sounds good

[@mrk1ng741]

will this be in the new dmm?

[@Cooter69]

use flames of zamorak at zulrah with charge. You can hit 50s non stop

[@doom1354]

So my trident I just grinded 87 slayer for is now way way outclassed by lvl 75 normal spells?... Awesome.

[@Nerdsown]

My GIM and I have killed 1100 zulrah and no blowpipe. U get and don't react 😢

[@Snakes_Explained]

I don’t even play osrs. I play rs3.. but this is absolutely one of my favorite channels. 😂 I insta click on any videos you release!

[@kingjaries]

Well it brings a little more to the table at least

[@fl1p211]

staff of the dead is going to be insane with this, no?

[@soulzero22]

Dude if this rebalance had been around for the Swampletics series. 🤔

[@marce4241]

they haven't updated the magic gear yet right?

[@vahannema]

they have

[@marce4241]

@@vahannema oh yeh i overlooked mb

[@Tonyisgaming]

At this rate we need a Old School OSRS to come out 😂 I remember being mad when they added GE, this is barely the same game anymore tbh.

[@Andy-en8ow]

i just tested this setup and im only get 12.5 % magic dmg how are u getting 17

[@homologousprime8888]

Can't wait to see how monsters and changes are with the new EoC. Slayer is going to get interesting!

[@American_Psycho69420]

We need old, old school RuneScape. Learn from the mistakes and implement changes from the off. Don’t include BS monsters/mini-games that just drop constant drops worth thousands of GP per kill. Money should be made through skilling, or through principal drops from bosses. Overhaul mini-games so they’re actually worth playing, and compete with each other (or you can get similar rewards, but just depends on which game you like playing the most).

[@andrebenoit404]

This was such a great update!

[@noname1247]

Casual tanzinite fang drop lol

[@stefani.5737]

Oh dope, they brought over the one good change EOC had.