Midas DP48 Review & Demo

[@FAITHFULAVL]

dude love your videos! super detailed and your just an all around cool guy! thanks : ) one little nit-pickey thing... the background track gets really annoying really quick... just the same thing over and over and over... makes it hard to concentrate on what youre saying, esp the kick pad.. don't want to be negative but i really want to watch more of your videos to come... and not be irritated. thanks man, keep doing awesomely!

[@jazzgtrfan]

Agree. Great info, but please drop the background music. Thanks.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Good to know. I appreciate the feedback! Will work on that :D

[@timcrowl1526]

My thoughts exactly. Had to watch in segments could only take it so long.

[@jojojoshua1]

Thanks so much for the vids. Our church is looking at these and your videos have been very helpful. If I could make a suggestion-the backing track could be lower in the mix and maybe change up a little. The same repetitive loop makes it hard to sit through more than a few minutes of the video at a time.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Thanks Josh! I’ll definitely drop it down going forward and maybe even change it up.

[@Brummyroadbouncer]

we have just brought whole new gear for church as our current stuff came out if the ark and we have brought the pd48's ty for this video helps a lot

[@ChurchTechTalks]

"Came out of the ark" Hahaha! Well this new gear is gonna feel like a spaceship compared to what it sounds like you were using! Glad this was helpful!

[@kiparue]

If you’re like me and don’t have bibles laying around to prop up your DP48, but you have P16 boxes, the mounting bracket does fit. For desk top use, the angle pretty good.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Totally would have used the bracket, but I got these units from Music Group before they and the brackets were released and they didn’t send brackets. Like most churches we have tons of bibles though! Haha

[@randyhobbs1514]

I wish you could do another video on this again just explain the channel assignments part.

[@josephservellon7447]

FINALLY! And thank you for the video I really Appreciated a lot, also when will the Hub4 be available for Purchase?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I’m not sure on shipping dates for the hub. I received a demo unit and I’m guessing production got held up due to coronavirus. I’ll share if I find out anything further

[@nathanchristopherson3038]

I heard early 2021 from a rep at sweetwater

[@josephservellon7447]

@@nathanchristopherson3038 its already out for sell

[@nathanchristopherson3038]

@@josephservellon7447 I think they are back ordered at the moment. that was what I heard earlier this month from sweeetwater.

[@GSA_Drums]

Great video, could you do an update on the dp48? Is there an update on the EQ ing especially for the drums. I‘m used to EQ ing the bass drum and toms. It‘s really hard to find enough information on the DP48!

[@pablotorre9602]

thanks!!! gracias por tomarte el tiempo y hacer este tutorial, a muchos de nosotros nos ha servido mucho, God Bless you!!

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I'm so glad this was helpful to you! Please like and subscribe to help this channel grow :D

[@marcossebastian1739]

Hey Scott, great / awesome video. We have the M32 with DL16 and 8 DP48s. Everything is working fine except we can not broadcast or remote control other DP48s. We followed your instructions but nothing. Could it be that the Hub4 is needed for this feature to work? I see others are having the same issue. The only difference between our setup and yours is the Hub4...

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Thanks, Marcos! As far as I know you can do both of those functions without a Hub4. I would make sure you’re using the latest firmware on your M32 and your DP48’s, then make sure the DP48’s are set up to receive broadcasts in settings, then plug one directly into AES50B and try to broadcast to a single DP48 plugged into AES50B. Trouble shoot with as little plugged in as possible, take out a lot of the unknown and complex routing and just get it working, then add things in and see what’s causing the issues. Good luck!! Let me know how it goes!

[@joshuataliaferro]

I like the background music. btw. great video.

[@dmcmahon999]

Wish you could push and hold verb to mute/unmute the Mix verb when needed during speaking

[@ChurchTechTalks]

One way to accomplish that would be to send reverb to the unit through the P16’s and select “pre fader + M” as the tap point. Then, when your front of house engineer mutes in the house, it will also mute in your ears! Good luck!

[@thginknodnarb]

Question. Trying to setup remote. Have you ever had an issue with it not allowing you to turn remote on? I've got a Midas Pro 2 into a Klark Teknek(to convert 96hz to 48hz) into a DP48. Goes from that DP48 into a Hub 4. All the other DP48s from there. I can't turn the remote on on any of the DP48s. Can't find anything on this.

[@randyhobbs1514]

I hope somebody sees this question. Our church just bought 4 DP48's and the hub 4. We are using the Midas M32 console. Our praise team is slowly getting used to these but not totally using them yet. I'm new to this church's sound system and learning these fun new toys. Question, how do you get that home screen to change like is shown in the video? I realize this shows a firmware update but this video is 3 years old. Wouldn't the units we just bought be updated with the latest firmware? I'll look at them today and see what firmware we have. But..... is there a way one can choose what the home screen displays? Once again, I'm new to these things and I'm watching videos as fast as I can. Please excuse the a new persons's crazy question.

[@dmcmahon999]

Can anyone post a link to the firmware update for DP 48. I have looked and keep getting not found on the site. Please please

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Should be able to get the latest firmware here www.midasconsoles.com/Categories/Midas/Signal-Processors/In-Ear-Monitoring/DP48/p/P0BMX/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)

[@cityharvest.church3501]

Thank you so much for these initial DP48 videos. They were immensely helpful in making our purchase decision and going through setup. We have one issue that we can't seem to iron out: unmuted emcee mics! For better or worse, our approach to emcee mics is to leave them turn on and unmuted at the source and leave the power of mute with the sound engineer. The problem with this approach is we can hear everything from the Lav including those dreaded trips to the urinal. Unfortunately, the group the emcees are in includes room mics, the MD, and some other misc. things. Have you found a way to setup the M32 to actually honor the mute? I'm wondering if using a p16 send will somehow work, but haven't wrapped my mind around it yet. Thanks!

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Yes, you should be able to include the P16 feeds as the last 16 on the DP48’s, then set your P16 tap points to PreFdr +M. That will make it so the FOH’s fader level won’t effect your ears, but muting that channel will mute it for your ears.

[@avldirectpteltd3980]

Hi, Great video you have here. Very useful. Can i check where do you get the firmware updater for the HUB4? the Website doesn't show any firmware for the HUB4 too. Can you share it with us?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Colin Oliveiro thanks! Midas sent me these units well before they were released so that I could help test, give feedback, and review here on KZbin, because of that, I’ve been running beta software, so some of what you see may not be publicly available, always keep your eyes on Midas’ website for official software! Thanks again! Take care!

[@Steve_TheSoundGuy]

This is awesome! Thanks for taking the time to do this. Just have one question for you about connecting multiple DP48s... Are you daisy chaining each unit or is each unit coming out multiple HUBs? Just wondering if the HUB is like the P-16D or if you need multiple HUBs because it only has 4 AES50 outputs. Thanks for the help.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

We only have 4 DP-48’s, so the one hub we have can power them all. If you have more than 4, you can daisy chain, but will need power just like the P16’s.

[@TotalEvo7]

In short, the HUB4 is like the P16-D, but with added features aside from Power over Ethernet

[@bobkidd7075]

I do not have hub but I am using DL32. I can not get the d48 setup. Not seeing same information generate on d48 if I hit broadcast on M32. Do you have a tutorial on how to setup d48 with M32?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Go into the settings on your DP48 and make sure broadcast is set to “on”

[@jlwall]

Do you know pricing and release the hub4 gear in the us market? Music group seems to have not released much info

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I don’t unfortunately. I’m guessing production got held up by coronavirus. I’ll share if I hear anything though

[@ind0kid500]

Hey Scott, we are interested in buying a hub4 in order to use the talkback function of the dp48. We use x32 as foh, will the talkback send from the dp48, work on the x32? Thanks.

[@daniellozovskiy9849]

Awesome video. Can you do an overview video of the camera setup behind you? That would be sweeeeet. Thanks

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I actually already have! You can check it out right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnOWhqV_hbqfhdE

[@southpau]

How do you adjust individual channels in each group?

[@ddtbjt4644]

Scott thanks for the video. Earlier this year we replaced our old system with an all digital sound system (M32, DL32, and some DP48's). Looks like you were running the connection to the DP48 straight out of the back of your M32? Have you tried running the DP48's for your digital stage box (DL32)? Does the Library and the Broadcast work the same through a stage box as it does directly out of the M32? You get the same results from the DP48 display using either the direct from the M32 or out from the stage box?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

DDT BJT it works off of the DL32, but the last 16 channels of the DP48 will be sourced from the P16 sources. This could be fine for some people, we opted to run it separate cause it worked better for our situation as we run P16’s and DP48’s at the same time and we wanted to be able to send different sources to each.

[@danielguzmansagredo8090]

Can I configure the group mix 1 to be the mixbus 1 of the mixer?

[@16LiveRecords]

Oh wow! this device looks more complicated for controll more than M32 alone... I can't imagine, how someone visiting my studio would be able to control that. Awesome tutorial, but I had lost in routing signals. Gotta try it some day... :)

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I don’t think it’s more complicated than the M32, but it is more complicated than the P16‘s.

[@drewdavies]

Hey, thanks for the video, there were some things I was missing and I found most of the answers watching this.. Question tho.. Where can I find the 270 update, I’m only seeing a V1.2 on the Midas support page

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I received demo units and have been using internal betas. Always check the official Midas pages for stable updates. :D

[@drewdavies]

Church Tech Talks , a few weeks ago they updated the firmware downloads on the support page, so now I’m good, thanks👍🏻

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Drew Davies Awesome! Sorry for the delayed response, I just found out KZbin wasn’t giving me comment notifications!

[@northtrader]

I'm curious about the CAT cable you're using for the AES50 run from the mixer to the hub and from the hub to the DP48 units. Are you using unshielded CAT cable? If so, have you experienced any issues?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I believe spec is shielded cat 5e with ethercon connectors, I wanted to get this video up fast and didn’t have any on hand so I used what I had. I don’t recommend using anything but spec, but does it work in a pinch? Ya. Can it cause problems? Ya.

[@ToneCrafter]

We have just moved into a new auditorium in our Church in New Zealand. We have purchased the M32 console and 4x DP48s (first in Autralasia aparently!). Moving from the Behringer X32 with a bunch of P16s. Had our first misic practice last night and it's a steap learning curve! We don't have the hub. Apart from enabling connection of wireless tranmitters and PoE, what is the hub required for? Can you still still send Ultranet P16 channels and perform broadcast from console without one? Where can I find more advanced user info? All I can find on the Midas website is a Quick Start guide. There are a lot of things you've convered in this video that aren't convered in the documentation.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I agree, it's absolutely a steep learning curve! Frankly, I've been keeping our less technical band members on P16's and giving our more advance members the DP48's. The Hub primarily provides PoE and wireless IEM outs, but can also be used as an input module to connect and power AES50 breakout boxes (think: digital 8-channel sub-snakes) and also features "Stage Connect" which I think Midas will try to push more for the lower end of the market.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

As far as more advanced user info? Just subscribe to this channel, I'll be doing more videos on this product in the future I'm sure!

[@myeventio]

Can you use the DP48 as more a FOH PFL setup say when you are using a m32C which doesnt really an ideal setup for headphone monitoring etc? thanks.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I don’t think I’d do that. I’d probably sell the M32C and pick up a X32 producer or a used full size X32.

[@dannydane2707]

Thanks man. This video helps.

[@DaniWalther]

Hey. What about the Firmware Update. Could You Share the Update with us? Do you have any experience with the dp48 in combination with the Wing? Thank you!

[@ChurchTechTalks]

I don’t have any experience with the Wing and DP48, but it looks pretty dang impressive for the price! You can get the latest firmware right here www.midasconsoles.com/Categories/Midas/Signal-Processors/In-Ear-Monitoring/DP48/p/P0BMX/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)

[@bobkidd7075]

Seems pretty complicated. Looking to use as a option for acts that come in with in ear units so they can control on mix. Is this an option? Also I'm assuming their in ear units would connect via 1/4 inch? No XLR hook ups.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

If I were going to be mixing IEMs for guest acts, I don’t think I’d use any personal monitor mixer, I’d likely mix their ears for them using busses. You could possibly get away with something more simple like the P16’s, I’ve had guests use those before and because they are exactly like Avioms, most artists feel comfortable on them. And yes, it’s a stereo 1/4” so buying a stereo 1/4” male to stereo 1/8” female extension will give your talent the headphone Jack they’ll need in the location they need. Good luck!

[@davidgilbert3723]

Hey, first of all I wanted to say I love your channel, it has been very helpful on my endeavors of setup. I have a question for you, I’m having difficulty routing my wireless mics that are plugged in Local on the M32 channels 19-23, and getting a signal to the DP48 Stage monitors… Have you experienced anything like this and if you have, how did you solve the routing to get that signal to the DP 48? Thanks

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Thanks David! Glad to hear you’re liking the channel. How exactly do you have them plugged in?

[@davidgilbert3723]

@@ChurchTechTalks Hello Scott, I thought I sent a reply on your question but it looks like I missed the mark on that. Here is how I have it routed. Channels 1-18 are AES50-A. These are directly to the DL32 stage box. All of these channels get line levels into the dp48 monitors. Channels 19-24 are wireless mics and are plugged directly into the M32 at the FOH as local inputs. The M32 is update to the latest version of (4.04) The routing for channels 19-24 are under inputs as "User In "17-24". so I can assign individual channels without having to dedicate the whole group of 8 as local in. On the Patch menu, I tab all the way over to the "USER" tab and I have the these inputs, 19-24, assigned as Local in. The challenge I am experiencing is this, I cannot get a signal for the wireless mics that is at the FOH to register a line level into the DP48 stage monitors. I know I am missing something in the routing somewhere but I have not figured in out as of yet. My question to you is this: By chance do you run wireless mics from the FOH as being direct to the console as local inserts or do you insert directly into the DL32 with the wireless mic transmitters. If you do run wireless at the FOH to the dp48 stage monitors what is the routing you use to achieve this? Thank you for your wisdom on this and again for your channel...it is great!!

[@ChurchTechTalks]

@@davidgilbert3723 how are you connecting the DP48’s? If they are connected to your AES50B of the DL32, then you need to change the patching of Routing > AES50A. I run a separate cat 5e line off the M32 directly to a Hub 4 (if you don’t have Hub 4, you can go straight to DP48’s) then you would route channels to them under Routing > AES50B. I like this setup, cause it gives me full control over sending whatever I want to them without effecting the ins/outs of my DL32.

[@davidgilbert3723]

@@ChurchTechTalks I have a midas Hub4 I connect the DP48's to and to the DL32.

[@davidgilbert3723]

I connect the DP48's to the Hub4 and the Hub4 connects to the AES50B port on the DL32 and from the DL32, AES50A to the M32 Console AES50A port.

[@andyweisner3195]

I Just got the dp48 and I wanted to get the Midas hub4 but they haven’t released it yet is there a way to still use the dp48 without the Hub4, and how would you set that up. Thank you

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Yes! They operate very similarly to the P16's in that regard, so you can simply daisy chain the units together. Each unit will need to use the included power adapters. You can run them either after your stage box on your AES50A run or run them on a dedicated line out of AES50B. Keep in mind that your "A" run will have your P16 channels as the last 16 channels of the AES50's 48 channel stream.

[@andyweisner1996]

Church Tech Talks thank you for all your help

[@ChurchTechTalks]

@@andyweisner1996 Any time, Andy! :D

[@andyweisner3195]

Church Tech Talks would there be a reason the remote won’t turn on on the dp48

[@jeremymarion650]

Hey Scott! I'd love to hear what you've learned or maybe what you changed with your DP48 setup. I'm currently running an X32 FOH. AES50 A feeds a DL32 stage box and AES50 B feeds two HUB4's. I noticed that when I tried to go into a DP48 at FOH out of AES50B and use the thru to go to the Hub4's I would get random loss of connection to all DP48's on stage. The only way I could solve this was by removing the DP48 at FOH and going directly from AES50B to the Hub4's.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

We had the exact set up you’re describing and we ended up moving away from having a DP48 at FOH as well. Not because of dropouts, but because it didn’t actually help the band mix as much as we thought it would. It’s no secret that these things are more complicated to mix on than the P16s, so we only give the DP48’s to musicians that we feel are capable of utilizing this tech and we give P16‘s to all the others.

[@jeremymarion650]

@@ChurchTechTalks SInce this we are moving from another system altogether we jumped fully into DP48's all around. It's clear to me that we need to have a baseline mix setup with eq, compression and verb on everything that is sort of the normal setup. That way we only need to spend a little extra time with someone that is bringing in an instrument we don't normally have or a voice that needs some eq variation. Thanks for the videos you post! I couldn't find much when I first purchased these things.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

@@jeremymarion650 Standardizing a baseline mix is a great idea. If you're not already, you should start doing that with your instruments as well. Having one house drum kit, one house bass rig, one house piano setup...etc. will keep that baseline mix sound great no matter who is playing! Massively important as your worship ministry grows! Thanks for the questions and good luck in the future! Always here if you have more q's!

[@okdrummer3712]

Hi. When I try to broadcast from my x32 rack to my dp48, it only adds the names for the groups. Not the group assignments. Troubleshooting?

[@busyscott]

Check out the screen at 10:27 and make sure you have Group Assign selected in the SCOPE section.

[@okdrummer3712]

@@busyscott Hi. Thanks for the fast reply :) The group assign is on. And remote is ON in the dp48 also, like you explain in the video. I have updated the dp48 to latest firmware 1.9.

[@okdrummer3712]

Fix it. Updated my firmware (4.04) on my x32 rack console, and it works :)

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Glad to hear! I love when it's something as simple as a firmware update :)

[@preacherplayer1]

We just bought one for our church to give it a spin. I ran another network cable from AES50B like you did straight from the Midas M32 to the DP 48. The green light is indicating a good link and I'm getting audio but the channel names are not being imported to the DP 48. There's nothing on manufacturers website about this. Any ideas?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Are you on the latest firmware for both the DP48 and M32? Are you talking about group names? You have to broadcast those in the library DP48 page (make sure you’re broadcasting on AES50B) you also have to have the DP48 configured to receive broadcasts.

[@preacherplayer1]

@@ChurchTechTalks I was referring to channel names to assign to a group. You may be on to something with the latest firmware and the broadcast settings. I have done neither. Thanks

[@ChurchTechTalks]

@@preacherplayer1 Let me know how it goes! Good luck!

[@preacherplayer1]

@@ChurchTechTalks Updating firmware worked like a charm. Thanks.

[@dmcmahon999]

Great video

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@peteryousef5177]

please i need a video . how to routing DP 48 in midas mixer but slowly. because in this video you are fast and i did not understand. can you ?

[@elioncampbell5745]

Nice vid, how do you plug your in ears into the dp48 do you plug in right at the back of the dp48 saying stereo A or B or you need to buy a converter to plug your in ear into the converter because the Stereo A and B is TRS out

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Most personal monitors have 1/4” outs, you can grab 1/4” to 1/8” adapters or use 1/4” to 1/8” cables. We make custom 6’ 1/4” to 1/8” cables with neutrik connectors and canary cable. They’re solid as a rock. Also, unlike the P16’s (which run on ultranet) these actually run on AES50 and they return the two stereo mixes back to the Hub4 (if you have one) which has 1/4” outputs to plug straight into your wireless in ear monitors (if you have them) which is a pretty rad feature!

[@elioncampbell5745]

@@ChurchTechTalks nice... so what cables is used to connect the dp48 to the hub4 and what cable is used to connect hub4 to stage box or mixer

[@ChurchTechTalks]

@@elioncampbell5745 cat5e to connect mixer to hub4 and hub4 to dp48.

[@jerryreff1857]

Question - to use the DP48 is the Hub 4 required? I appears that DP48s can take the place of P16s and connect directly to the X32 without a need for the Hub 4.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Jerry Reff correct, you can use the DP48’s without the Hub 4.

[@jerryreff1857]

@@ChurchTechTalks We are a mid-sized church on a rather tight budget. We currently have the X32 and P16s. Unfortunately with P16s you only have control over 16 channels and we run out of in control on higher channels. It seems that the DP48 would solve those problems

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Jerry Reff it could be a good option for you. Keep in mind there is a steep learning curve. You could also try bussing things together on the p16’s. For instance, we would send all 8 of our drum inputs to a bus, then send that bus to 1 and 2. We would do the same for keys. All pianos, synths, and pads go in one stereo pair.

[@jerryreff1857]

@@ChurchTechTalks Thanks for the info. Yeah I can see that the learning is VERY steep. A LOT of power. Our sound tech is a wizard and will be able to put his arms around it fairly quickly. Thanks again and God's peace

[@ChurchTechTalks]

​@@jerryreff1857 Awesome! Love me a good sound wizard. If you do end up purchasing some DP48's, please consider using my Amazon referral link, this will give me a small kick back which helps me make more videos like this one :D amzn.to/30XVmrY

[@dobel1974]

hi is it possible to put 2 x dp48 on AES50 & BES50 on the m32 without obligation to put a HUB4 because I would like to put only 2 dp 48?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Yes, you can connect as many DP48’s on each AES50 run as you want

[@dobel1974]

@@ChurchTechTalks colll thanks

[@matthewrkgarcia]

Would you suggest using the DP48 to mix for a livestream?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

You know, I was just talking to a guy at Music Group who was saying they saw some serious application for that. I could see a small to medium scale setting where the DP48 might be a solid solution. There are some core functions missing that I would want in a live mix station (mutes, assignable buttons/encoders...etc) but in the right situation it could be great. You should check out my video on mixing livestream audio! Here’s the link - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3euiWyiorN6hbM

[@matthewrkgarcia]

@@ChurchTechTalks Right on, thanks for the videos, definitely a blessing to the church!

[@timeofsilence]

Is there a way to save a preset on one DP48 and load it on other DP48s? (routing and group names)

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Yup! You can save your presets to the SD card. :)

[@timeofsilence]

Yeah I figured it out. I should have looked a little closer before I asked. Thank you for the quick reply!

[@ChurchTechTalks]

@@timeofsilence any time :)

[@dqrp6435]

Sorry, I know these things have been out forever, and while I've always been intrigued, I've stuck with the ole iem pack and foh does the mix method. So please understand my question, I have no background with these personal mixers. Are you limited to the 12 groups? Were using tracks, as many do, but when were looking at 28 used channels, that doesnt leave much room for extreme detail, especially for tracks...

[@ChurchTechTalks]

You can assign multiple channels to each group and you can mix the levels of each channel inside the group, so you have full control of mixing all 48 channels. For instance, let’s say you want drums on group one, if snare is too quiet, you can go into group 1 and turn up your snare channel. Full control :D

[@ajlebron2564]

These things look quite powerful. I just don't get the practicality of these vs an Aviom A32 system over Dante or other more basic monitoring systems...Especially if you're in a 2-3hr rehearsal window. The time it would take for musicians to dial these in properly and for the engineer explaining how to use them to the band doesn't seem worth the time. Especially if more tech issues arise such as equipment failure or input failure you may have to trouble shoot during rehearsal. What's the upside here for an every weekend church musician?

[@ChurchTechTalks]

AJ Lebron I think the main upsides are far more features, 3X the inputs of a P16, and its native AES50. For those with X32/M32 consoles it’s a natural choice for a more advanced personal mixer than the P16’s. You can also run them alongside P16’s for less technical musicians. Plus they’re about half the cost of Aviom with no need to buy an expensive Dante card and take up the one card slot you have on your X32/M32. The channel count isn’t even comparable, the A320 is “32 channels” but really, it’s 16 stereo, so your mono acoustic technically takes up two channels, your mono vocal, two channels, your mono bass...well you get the idea. On top of all of that...Aviom stuff has always sounded like garbage to me. I have more experience with the A-16II’s, but I remember listening to the A320 when they announced it at NAMM and being thoroughly unimpressed.

[@dcbowlin]

Awesome video!! one feature I haven't seen covered in a video yet (sorry if I missed it somewhere) is the built in stereo ambient mic on the unit. Any info on that feature Scott? Thanks!

[@busyscott]

On the front of the unit, theres a button called "MIC" pressing this allows you to adjust volume of that mic in your ears. It's pretty straightforward, but we tend to use the shotgun audience mics for ambience audio in our mixes.

[@ennis437]

@@busyscott as I understand it that mic has been configured to work as a talkback mic in recent firmware update, but for the life of me I cant seem to figure out the routing to FOh. I am a drummer and would be really helpful to communicate with FOH this way. any help??

[@busyscott]

@@ennis437 I believe the talkback comes back over channel 48, which means you could probably use some user routing to route AES50 A48 out of User 1-8, then set one of your local blocks to User 1-8, then on the back of your FOH console, you could hook up that physical out to a speaker. I haven't tried that exact scenario, but it should work!

[@JettyDeke]

This seems like a P16, but with just more onboard processing and less channels... You're still using a bus/group for the drums just like you would a P16. The only advantage I see is it feeds 2 people and you have "scribble strips" Negatives are no "balancing" within groups. So if you happen to need 2 guitars on one group your musicians can't balance between those two instruments within the group so it will need a separate group still.

[@JettyDeke]

Nevermind just saw a video where this is actually a thing so.....

[@bender4262]

i was liking this video back round music is to much going to watch a different video

[@wilcandou]

Nah... too complicated. Just gonna stick with my Tandy 4 channel mixer!

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Wil ...I feel like we could find a middle ground there. 😂

[@wilcandou]

@@ChurchTechTalks Ok... six channel Realistic Mixer with a wireless baby monitor so I can talk to stage. How about that? lol

[@JimmyKeys99]

Nice vid man, but I quit watching after 3 minutes of that annoying audioloop in the 'background'. Listening almost half an hour to a 7sec audioloop is too much. Sorry

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Thanks for the feedback! Check out the newer vids. I ditched it. :)

[@seanflora397]

That music is relentlessly repetitive. Just talk is really fine, thanks.

[@ChurchTechTalks]

Thanks for the feedback, I've since ditched the relentlessly repetitive tunes ;)