Middle-earth's 10 Most Dangerous Places

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Darth Gandalf

Darth Gandalf

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In this video, we look at some of the most dangerous places in Middle-earth. What happened to them? What makes them so dangerous? And do you really have to go there?
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@Sleepy.Time.
@Sleepy.Time. 8 ай бұрын
Frodo got through Mordor and past Minas Morgul...but one place was so dangerous even he was caught..Farmer Maggot's farm.
@DarthGandalfYT
@DarthGandalfYT 8 ай бұрын
Luckily Farmer Maggot's an all-round solid bloke otherwise all of Middle-earth would be in trouble.
@jakeferreira1211
@jakeferreira1211 2 ай бұрын
To be fair, he was caught at Cirith Ungol after the Shelob encounter and was technically caught by Faramir, even though he wasn't holding them prisoner or anything. So he was actually caught three times. Two of them just happened to be by friends.
@anthonyhanks-yv9on
@anthonyhanks-yv9on 8 ай бұрын
Darth gandalf is never late. Nor is he early, but precisely when he means to
@Transilvanian90
@Transilvanian90 8 ай бұрын
The White Council will decide his fate. "Darth Gandalf IS the Council"
@DarthGandalfYT
@DarthGandalfYT 8 ай бұрын
He's definitely late this time around.
@kkupsky6321
@kkupsky6321 8 ай бұрын
And I hate when the blue wizards draw on my door and I never get company. Door and dash. Weirdos.
@IamPapaShaw
@IamPapaShaw 8 ай бұрын
Except when he visits Darth Saruman.
@phoule76
@phoule76 8 ай бұрын
at least the barrow wights dressed you up before taking you out
@DarthGandalfYT
@DarthGandalfYT 8 ай бұрын
Just goes to show that fashion is important even if you're dead.
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 8 ай бұрын
It´s meant to symbolically wipe out your identity
@rofald
@rofald 8 ай бұрын
19:47 That's right, don't forget that Lobelia wielded the Nenram, the deadliest umbrella in Middle-earth.
@ChrisVillagomez
@ChrisVillagomez 6 ай бұрын
100% Sauron created the Lights in the Dead Marshes or even the marshes themselves. It is superb defensive terrain since Sauron has corrupted Dagorlad and the Brown Lands, it blocks the Black Gate from invaders coming from Mirkwood and Lothlorien. Plus Sauron had the option of allowing evil Elven spirits to become the Lights and bodies in the water much like how the Barrow-Wights kill people, just a different medium. Also, I think a really cool video topic would be about what ancient structures or places that are mentioned in the Silmarillion still exist but no one knows where they are? Kind of the opposite of what people thought about Khazad-Dum where the Dwarves know where it is still but can't take it back. Places that the Elves, Dwarves, Men, etc. know for certain still exist, but they don't know where they are anymore
@tiltskillet7085
@tiltskillet7085 8 ай бұрын
Honorary Mention for Gundabad, although it's hard to tell exactly how dangerous it would have been at the tail end of the Third Age. Not-Serious Mention for Lothlorien, considering how often it or a certain inhabitant of it is called "perilous". Definitely-Serious Top-10 if you're an orc though! (Actually the orc-version of this list would be interesting.)
@DarthGandalfYT
@DarthGandalfYT 8 ай бұрын
I agree that the Orc version would be interesting. Maybe a future video.
@ChrisVillagomez
@ChrisVillagomez 5 ай бұрын
Something that I've always wondered about but especially after reading your comment: How would the Elves of Lothlorien react to a random person like me or you stumbling into one of their settlements on accident? Even if you're found on the way in, would the Elves be angry at you? If you needed food, rest, or medical aid, would they help you out? Haldir makes it seem like they're at least not trusting of anyone they catch, though that might be because of Sauron's rise and the Goblins in Moria stirring up after the Fellowship. I wonder how Galadriel would react to a random person accidentally finding their way into Lothlorien. Would she act like she did towards the Fellowship? Or would it be like the less-nice depiction of the Lady of the Golden Wood that we get from the Rohirrim?
@tiltskillet7085
@tiltskillet7085 5 ай бұрын
@@ChrisVillagomez If you want my guess....Assuming they seemed innocent of evil intent, at the time of the War of the Ring or the years leading up to it, they'd be captured, intimidated if necessary, and turned loose over the border with clear warnings not to return. If in need of food or healing, they'd probably get it, but no more and no longer than necessary. This would be a standing policy, not something Galadriel would need to be involved in executing. It could be a friendlier greeting at other points in time.
@CoolKidMethew
@CoolKidMethew 8 ай бұрын
The Forodwaith was pretty dangerous as well. The ruins of Utunmo might have also been there, which just adds to that.
@blueshit199
@blueshit199 Ай бұрын
there is a reason why it's only ruins now
@hannibalbarca7902
@hannibalbarca7902 8 ай бұрын
Idea for a video: how did the Dunedain society function? Did they have settlements of their own? Where did they gather and train? Did they become something like a secret society?
@Hello_182
@Hello_182 8 ай бұрын
Yeah that sounds like something I’d love to hear more about too
@miroslavmalivukovic1534
@miroslavmalivukovic1534 7 ай бұрын
The Northern-Dunedain you mean? Then yes, that would be interesting indeed!
@hannibalbarca7902
@hannibalbarca7902 7 ай бұрын
@@miroslavmalivukovic1534 the Ranger - Northern Dunedain society after the fall of Arnor to be precise.
@Manticore00
@Manticore00 8 ай бұрын
Always a good day when Darth Gandalf uploads!
@Eternalnight198
@Eternalnight198 8 ай бұрын
Most dangerous place in ME would have to be Bag End. Did you see how many times Gandalf hit his head on the ceiling and hurt himself?
@doctorlolchicken7478
@doctorlolchicken7478 4 ай бұрын
As an older person I’m constantly amazed at how aspects of pop culture bleed into other areas. Like D&D having “wights” and “wraiths” and then the abilities of those creatures being retrofitted to Tolkien. On the other hand, I like how Tolkien is mostly vague about everything since I hate this current fad of fantasy authors explaining how everything works in their worlds.
@bleekskaduwee6762
@bleekskaduwee6762 8 ай бұрын
Good call on Minas Morgul as number 1, it is easy to forget about that place
@kazikmajster5650
@kazikmajster5650 8 ай бұрын
Guess list before watching (assuming we are at TA 3018, during the Council of Elrond, and assuming that you are an Elf rather than a Man, because then Valinor would be hella dangerous) -> 1.Mordor 2.Dol Guldur 3.Path of the Dead 4.Moria 5.All Misty Mtns. North of Moria. 6.Farmer Maggot's mushroom field 7.Isengard 8.Khand+Harad 9.Ettenmoors 10.Far North, where there still are Dragons Now, if we meant throughout time, then: 1.Angband 2.Utumno 3.Mordor 4.Enchanted Isles, in general trying to sail to Valinor 5.Taur-nu-Fuin + Nan Dungortheb 6.Dol Guldur 7.Path of the Dead 8.Gondolin, you know when 9.Moria 10.Possessing a Silmaril anywhere
@aaexo6468
@aaexo6468 7 ай бұрын
Utumno should be #1 by a longshot. literally Tolkiens version of hell
@FXGreggan.
@FXGreggan. 8 ай бұрын
Would love to see a similar video about pre-third age too, cheers ans thx for all your work!
@Antipius
@Antipius 8 ай бұрын
Honourable mention to Tol Fuin, the maybe but probably not spider island!
@DarthGandalfYT
@DarthGandalfYT 8 ай бұрын
One place that we certainly don't need to go to.
@Strideo1
@Strideo1 8 ай бұрын
Are there any sources that state Tol Fuin is a dangerous place or even that any of the giant spiders still reside there after The War of Wrath? I always imagined the spiders had been slain or driven away by the Host of the Valar and Tol Fuin is just a lonely, remote, and mostly cold island.
@anti-liberalismo
@anti-liberalismo 2 ай бұрын
The statues of Minas Morgul actually makes the place even scarier, there were evil spirits inside them, also, what sort of unspeakable horrors would someone witness by passing through the gates?
@jamaigar
@jamaigar 8 ай бұрын
The danger of Moria is also getting lost in the dark and just fall into a pit. Lots of corridors and bridges in there
@greenman6141
@greenman6141 7 ай бұрын
Always thought it was odd that in CS Lewis' The Silver Chair there are Ettinmoors..where giants lurk about and give the place a bad name. And I've always LIKED the way Tolkien made use of the known oddity of the flickering flames that appear over marshes and some types burial grounds in his Dead Marshes. Seemed to rather combine the two, rotting plant matter , rotting flesh matter; perhaps making those will of wisps extra willy. Or wispy. Take your pick.
@PvtSchlock
@PvtSchlock 5 ай бұрын
In the 90's there was a fantastic card game which featured many of these locations. It was interesting how by setting your will and desire to accomplish something ostensibly good, you could find yourself passing by, or going to one of these places. Fun video, thanks!
@BDawg-hy7pl
@BDawg-hy7pl 8 ай бұрын
Awesome man love you’re vids
@bhkavanagh
@bhkavanagh 2 ай бұрын
This is just fantastic. I started to come up with a list before I started the video. LOTR problems.
@greenman6141
@greenman6141 7 ай бұрын
Another really enjoyable video. Fun and harmless luxuriating in the enjoyable complexity and rich realization of Tolkien's world, without all the bollocks. People who don't enjoy a good list are missing one of life's few keen pleasures that won't make you fat, addicted, or a parent.
@judahenjoyseducation4549
@judahenjoyseducation4549 8 ай бұрын
Middle earth certainly didn't have a shortage of completely fucked locations with hostile peoples or deadly monsters
@cavetroll666
@cavetroll666 8 ай бұрын
thanks for the video :) good day cheers from Canada (Forchel)
@antr7493
@antr7493 7 ай бұрын
The art work is excellent
@saladinbob
@saladinbob 8 ай бұрын
Out of interest, why only the 3rd Age? Few places in the 3rd Age compared to the dangers posed by those lands under Morgoth's control during the 1st.
@DarthGandalfYT
@DarthGandalfYT 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a big fan of comparing people or places between ages, especially between the First and Third Age. It's also much easier to compare things at a specific date, because how dangerous a place is changes with time. That being said, if I were to include locations from the First Age, we'd have some top contenders; Angband, Nan Dungortheb, Dorthonion, Helcaraxe etc
@goochmcduck4285
@goochmcduck4285 8 ай бұрын
It’s probably easier to do it age by age. The first age was vastly different then the last two
@CursedAnqxl
@CursedAnqxl 7 ай бұрын
and not to mention, this video covers middle earth specifically, not the dark lands, not aman, not anywhere else that may have dangerous places, just middle earth.
@cebraulkenne8571
@cebraulkenne8571 Ай бұрын
I might add Forochel for the brutal weather.
@ValeTheOwl
@ValeTheOwl 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I'd put Isengard higher, probably in third place instead of Moria. As Tolkien itself described it was something more than a stronghold of orcs and evil men, it was a small copy of Mordor itself, and the fact that Saruman resided there added a layer of supernatural danger on its own. As Aragorn noted, Saruman's influence extended through all the lands near Isengard, weakening the resolve of those who opposed him while strengthening the will of his servants. Saruman himself was also a TREMENDOUS threat, a sorcerer of great power who could bend people's will through his words and an expert of dark magic. It says something that Gandalf didn't even want to risk passing through Rohan with the Ring because that would take it too close to Isengard, but he willingly guided the Fellowship through Moria.
@ulbingelias6894
@ulbingelias6894 8 ай бұрын
I would love to live in Mirkwood, in Thranduils Halls to be precise, because elves and the elves of Mirkwood particular are my favorite race. Wonderful interesting Video thanks 👍👍👍
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 8 ай бұрын
Never ending booze that gets even elves drunk 😅
@ulbingelias6894
@ulbingelias6894 8 ай бұрын
@@alanmike6883 It seems that the Woodland realm was like the Malibu club of Middle Earth 😎
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 8 ай бұрын
@@ulbingelias6894 And safe too while you live it up 😅
@ulbingelias6894
@ulbingelias6894 8 ай бұрын
@@alanmike6883 Where would you like to live in Middle Earth?
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 8 ай бұрын
@@ulbingelias6894 Hard question. What age? 1st age- gondolin 2nd age - numenor before the shadow and holidays in mithlond to learn From cirdan 😊 3rd age - early age anuminias when the great king elendil was alive (at heart I'm a anorian) 😂👍 Late 3rd age - split between the peace of the Shire or the beauty of Lorien 😊👍
@ProfStopMotion
@ProfStopMotion 8 ай бұрын
Mystery Video about the Druadan would be phenomenal
@neildaly2635
@neildaly2635 8 ай бұрын
Those of us old enough to speculate what partying was going to be like in 1999, know the Dead Marshes were anything but!
@theeffete3396
@theeffete3396 5 ай бұрын
I would put Tol Fuin in the top 10. It was rumored that all the worst evils of Taur-nu-Fuin still reside there since the drowning of Beleriand. Canonically, very little is actually known of the place since even elves fear to go there.
@ellanenish5999
@ellanenish5999 8 ай бұрын
please do 10 Conflicts (Wars) which "reshaped" Middle-Earth in some form, 1st Age - 3rd Age (so without years of the Trees) so on this list placement would find conflicts that erased countries from the map and heavily depopulated areas
@goochmcduck4285
@goochmcduck4285 8 ай бұрын
Barrow Downs scare me more then any other place. Real creeper stuff there
@MerryMohProductions
@MerryMohProductions 8 ай бұрын
Can you do a “Mysteries” video about the Great Beasts that hauled Grond?
@ade22805
@ade22805 8 ай бұрын
I’d have thought that finding yourself in Shelob’s underpants would have been pretty unpleasant.
@ilokivi
@ilokivi 4 ай бұрын
Torech Ungol deserves a citation. Even a wounded Shelob gurgling and hissing in the dark would have unnerved the unwary. Once healed, an encounter within those reeking tunnels spun with webs would have been terrifying.
@parisn1fan
@parisn1fan 5 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Gundabad, Umbar, the Misty Mountains, or the northern reaches , still haunted by Morgoth’s magic and extreme cold.
@richmondlandersenfells2238
@richmondlandersenfells2238 5 сағат бұрын
Being eaten alive in gundabad Disappearing from the misty mountains Murdered and molested in the streets of lumbar Swallowed and possibly dying in the withered hen
@istari0
@istari0 8 ай бұрын
How about Harad? Facing Mûmakil cavalry is pretty damned dangerous!
@GeneralInformation-jw3iw
@GeneralInformation-jw3iw 8 ай бұрын
Seems too broad. He went more granular than calling out regions/countries (forests, marshes, paths, mountains).
@42hamneggs
@42hamneggs 8 ай бұрын
The black gate. Rumor ha it is a live fire training ground of the New Zealand army filled with unexploded ordinance.
@DanielHeale355
@DanielHeale355 8 ай бұрын
Nice to finally now be able to actually speak to you now, Darth Gandalf, I can completely see that you love discussing a lot about The Lord of the Rings and have plenty of videos to do so, and because of that I'm going to cut straight to the chase and explain what ideas I have specifically for you to read right now. I have this idea or these ideas where you and a bunch of other youtubers who are massive fans of The Lord of the Rings should all come together with the entire cast and crew of Sir Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings film trilogy (2001-03), and when I mean the entire cast and crew I am not kidding or telling a joke, I'm actually being serious. The director, the directors of photography, the producers, the executive producers, the cinematographers, the film composer, the actors (including some of the actors behind the scenes such as Sir Christopher Lee, Sir Ian Holm and the other actors that are now dead, and this doesn't involve the famous actor Sir Ian McKellen), the script supervisors, the writers, the editors, the stunt supervisors, the food supervisors, the makeup artists, the production designers, the people who were involved with the songs In Dreams and May it Be, by Enya , Gollum's Song, by Emilíana Torrini, and Into the West, by Annie Lennox, the people who created the weapons, prosthetics, miniatures or the Big-atures (according to Jackson) and so much more. What I am wanting to happen with you, the other youtubers, and the cast and crew that was involved with Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings film trilogy is for all of you to sit down in one of those stylish meeting rooms, and discuss all together why The Lord of the Rings is the Greatest Trilogy Ever and nothing will ever come close to it not even Harry Potter, Star Wars, Pirates of the Caribbean, Game of Thrones, House of a Dragon, The Witcher, The Chronicles of Narnia, John Wick, Marvel, DC, The Matrix, Jaws, Jurassic Park, Indiana Jones, The Mummy, Jumanji, James Bond, The Godfather, Godzilla, King Kong, Alien, Predator, The Terminator, The Exorcist and Amazon's The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power. There I then thought that you guys can discuss all of your opinions on the J. R. R. Tolkien books, and the Peter Jackson movies, talk about the advantages and disadvantages that they have over and below each other, read all the books fully and analyze them and why they work so well, watch the theatrical and extended editions of the whole movies and analyze them and why they are perfect adaptations, explain the very few references and similarities that they have to The Holy Bible itself (such as the three Christ figures Aragorn, Frodo, and Gandalf) and probably the film versions of it, Tolkien's World War 1 experiences during the Battle of the Somme in the trenches that actually changed the course of history, his catholic and religious beliefs, and why nothing in general will ever come close the GOAT in general. You and the other youtubers should also do this thing where you should also analyze all three parts of the story (Part One: The Fellowship of the Ring, Part Two: The Two Towers, and Part Three: The Return of the King) but after each part is over you will all take breaks and vote which youtuber should have a one on one interview with which member of the cast and crew of the trilogy, and then you will all go in separate rooms with a different cast and crew member, plan out what questions you all should ask, change cast and crew members with each break along with different questions, increase the lengths just like the increase within all three parts of The Lord of the Rings movie trilogy, and then when each break is over then talk about what answers that you all got for the interviews. Some of the many youtubers that I thought of inviting to this should be @NerdoftheRings, @thefriendshiponion6189, @Jess_of_the_Shire, @TheBrokenSword, @kingdomsofarda1717, @TolkienLorePodcast, @LoreOfTheRingsYT, @VoiceoftheRings, @TalesoftheRings, @CounciloftheRings, @TheoryoftheRings, @TolkienTree, @TheRedBook @MiddleEarthTheory, @lfwinesroad3399, @geekuniverse6172, @heartofahafling3142, @MemoryTroll, @timbotook6447, @ArachirGaludirithon, @TheTabletopAlliance, @TheOneRingNet, @VoiceofGeekdom, @ThePhilosophersGames, @TolkienTube, @EverythingInMiddleEarth, @BeginningofDays, @GeekZoneMT, @Epic_Kingdom, @MiniExpBounder, @InDeepGeek, @HelloFutureMe, @MiddleEarthLore, @MacbethofGondor and so much more, you should also do this with many other youtubers who don't talk about The Lord of the Rings, but do mention that they are fans of it or at least talk about it such as @ColbertLateShow, @Pilgrims Pass, @PaxTubeChannel, @RewiretheWest, @NerdCookies, @WriterBrandonMcNulty, @flickfanatics7948, @thecluelessfangirl809, @LikeStoriesofOld, @HelloMellowXVI, @PopcornInBed, @JonnyLawYT, @DorkLords, @thegoldman25 and @jedibrooks7235 for example (but not the ones that mention LOTR once and then focus on another film or novel franchise such as @KlaytonFioriti, or @AGamingBeaver), and you should all talk about your different ways on how you would all view this as being a masterpiece. By The Way, you should also share this with many of the other youtubers who love Middle-earth in general and should plan with them on how you could improve on this comment such as inviting so much more youtubers who also love it a lot, and that I didn't add on this comment earlier on, discussing this with Peter Jackson and the Tolkien family and their views on them since they aren't the very best of friends (and that fact that Christopher Tolkien, and Simon Tolkien didn't appreciate it), and should also do the same thing with Peter Jackson's The Hobbit film trilogy (2012-14) and doing the same thing that I explained earlier with LOTR, such as also discussing about the score, and the songs such as The Song of the Lonely Mountain (Extended Version) , by Neil Finn, I See Fire, by Ed Sheeran, and The Last Goodbye, by Billy Boyd, (and also discussing again what it was like for some of the cast members that are dead now such as Barry Humphries who played as the Great Goblin and again this does not involve Ian McKellen) but also to mostly discuss why they weren't very good adaptations of the novel. Good luck out there @DarthGandalfYT and please share, and improve on this with the other youtubers, and the entire cast and crew of The J. R. R. Tolkien trilogy and The Peter Jackson trilogy. The real reason for this also is to basically change many different peoples' opinions and views on this amazing work of literature especially since it's the 20th Anniversary of these films, because not all Christians view it as a masterpiece, because I am a huge fan of LOTR too, but also because I'm also one who is a Christian believer, and I have witnessed other Christians not viewing it as a masterpiece that tells the story of good vs evil, since it shown as something completely underrated since people on the internet want a lot of realism, when in reality it actually invented the high fantasy genre, defined the fantasy genre, and it even made John Ronald Reuel Tolkien himself (who is of course the author of LOTR and the creator of Middle-earth) become what he is now known as the godfather or the father of modern fantasy that is of course now shown in both the 20th Century with his own books, and the 21st Century with the Peter Jackson adaptations. But also because the movies in my opinion destroy the stuff that Hollywood mainly shows in their films specifically the modern movies that are made today, even if these films are maybe sometimes considered to be not as good as their original work by Tolkien (especially involving around Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy), or if they are even usually considered to be Massive Hollywood, Blockbuster, Action & adventure movies, and also have really epic and really well crafted moments in them such as the large and huge amount of set pieces, the brilliant use practical effects, the incredible and awesome use computer generated effects when it was something made 20 years ago as well, large-scale warfare, six genres which is just everything that is ever put on the film director's bucket list in the three films such as action, adventure, romance, comedy, and horror that was just managed to be put altogether in a whole fantasy setting, and awesome character moments and awesome moments of really well-crafted character development in each of those three films as well. I would also really love your comparisons between the books and the movies and which one you think is the one that is considered to you to actually be better according to your specific opinion on that story. I also really like how you use Star Wars words before 'Gandalf', such as 'Darth' for example.
@sitara2783
@sitara2783 17 күн бұрын
Meaningless but personally interesting comparison: while my abusive mother was dying, her apartment was so strangely cool and humid no matter what the weather was outside. A lot like the Barrow Downs.
@centralscrutinizer6108
@centralscrutinizer6108 6 ай бұрын
Nice low key burn on the Italian roads there at the end. I had to jump back to make sure I heard you right and then laughed my ass off.
@apstrike
@apstrike 7 ай бұрын
The Withered Heath is probably like Angmar. If there were dragons left alive it would have been game over for Gondor, or at least Erebor.
@Paolur
@Paolur 8 ай бұрын
You're not wrong about italian roads. Went to Rome this summer and it seems that to italians crosswalks are only a suggestion if not coupled with a traffic light
@glencoewhite6939
@glencoewhite6939 4 ай бұрын
The tunnels far beneath Moria, the home of the nameless things have to be #1. The things down there had the Balrog and Gandalf running with their tails between their legs.
@davidkosiba624
@davidkosiba624 3 ай бұрын
Not the Balrog since it lived there , knew the way out which means he had to spend some time down there , highly doubt it feared the Nameless Things , Gandalf on the other hand....
@glencoewhite6939
@glencoewhite6939 3 ай бұрын
@@davidkosiba624 yeah you’re probably right.
@bobdrooples
@bobdrooples 8 ай бұрын
1:55 " Faint cries I heard, and dim horns, blowing along like a noxious green maelstrom of troll farts. Then they moaned *Boooooooooo* " _Legolas, after the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, recounts the events he witnessed to Merry and Pippin._
@linezgames3893
@linezgames3893 3 ай бұрын
Literally when u eere explaining minas morgul i thought of stalker and chernobyl. Funny how u compared it right after. Loved it do disagreee w #1😅
@njahmoon89
@njahmoon89 7 ай бұрын
Honorable mention to home of Sackville-Baggins.
@PaulJohn01
@PaulJohn01 5 ай бұрын
Fangorn Forest should also be considered as highly dangerous...
@kell2859
@kell2859 8 ай бұрын
Perfect vid for the spooky season
@Uncle_Fred
@Uncle_Fred 8 ай бұрын
Great overview. Here are my top ten, assuming it is the year TA 3018 when Frodo sets out, in order from worst to least bad: 1. The 'Wraith World.' Denied the gift of Eru (death), the mortal plane of existence is a faded mess. You are constantly fed the visions of Sauron until your will is utterly his to command. Note that this applies only to mortals who claim a great ring of power forged by Sauron, or who have faded due to a wound from a Morgul blade. 2. The Houses of Lamentation. Possibly also the Unseen or Wraith World or some other unknown magic-induced state where your Fëa is torn from your body while Sauron taunts you. 3. UnGoliant's lair. Where this sits in the ranking depends on the state of UnGoliant by the events of the War of the Ring. If UnGoliant is still alive, I'd rank it here. Ungoliant's lair is probably located in some deep, unexplored crevice in the forgotten southern continent, far away from the events of the War of the Ring. Even if diminished or gone, this place would probably remain pretty horrible for a long time. If still alive, I think I'd rather be a prisoner of the Dark Tower. 4. The Throne room of Barad-Dur. I'm of the opinion that this throne room would probably be fairly beautiful. It's always represented as something out of one of Morgoth's dominions, but I'd like to think Sauron, as a student of Aule, would prefer fine Mithril crafts for his own personal space, even if these are set in imposing architecture for best effect. Plus it probably contains one of the Palentirs. Still, Sauron is here, so you are likely to have a very bad time of things if he's feeling in the right mood. 5. The Dungeons of Barad-Dur and Minus Morgol (tied). Besides the usual bodily tortures, insanity and even necromancy await unfortunate prisoners here. 6. The Underdeeps of Ultmno. Supposedly these deepest pits were not destroyed by the Valar. They may still be intact and harbor some forgotten experiments of Morgoth or even possibly some creatures of the Void that followed Morgoth into Arda. 7. The Underdeeps of Moria. Here lies not only the Balrog but also the nameless things. The nameless things were also likely experiments of Morgoth, part of Arda's initial corruption, or Void creatures escaped from Ultmno. 8. Sauron's Eastern throne in Rhun. Tolkien mentions in passing that Sauron had strongholds for his own personal use in lands outside of North-Eastern Middle Earth. It's likely he spent a significant amount of time somewhere to the east and likely built up his own physical base of power there. No doubt, his preferred eastern throne was a place of worship and fear. 9. Sauron's personal abode in Dol Guldur. Although by 3018, this was now vacated by Sauron, it's likely repurposed as a chief residence for the Witch King or Kamul. 10. Shelob's Lair. There was a tunnel mentioned that the Hobbits rightly avoided. This tunnel probably led down to Shelob's primary resting cave. (Notable mention:) Darkest glens of Fangorn and Mirkwood, the last desert in the east where the Were-Worms reside (possibly a tall tale told to Bilbo, but knowing Tolkien, there's probably some truth to it), and the lairs inhabited by Giants, Drakes, Trolls, Wargs, Vampires, Werewolves, Ape-men, and sea creatures.
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 8 ай бұрын
The Unseens or as you call it Wraith World is not a terrible place by default. It is only a torment to those who are under the influence of Sauron´s dark magic. For example, Glorfindel also "lives" in the Unseen, which is one reason why the Nazgul fear him so much.
@Uncle_Fred
@Uncle_Fred 8 ай бұрын
@@Crafty_Spirit Quite right. I added a qualifier to my origional post.
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 8 ай бұрын
@@Uncle_Fred You gave the most original suggestion I saw in the comments!
@injaudovc8351
@injaudovc8351 8 ай бұрын
Italian roads😂 as someone who had once driven in Trieste I can confirm this and there is no way I'm ever doing that again.
@dg20120
@dg20120 Ай бұрын
I’m curious how Isengard remained standing with all the subterranean work going on practically underneath it. When the ents flooded it, the soil should have turned to mud then the weight of the structure would have caused the mud to collapse into the voids created by the excavations created by Saruman’s industrial operations. The tower should have dropped and toppled.
@chables74
@chables74 8 ай бұрын
Algormancy!
@joshhodkinson9677
@joshhodkinson9677 5 ай бұрын
The most dangerous place in Middle Earth is whichever place Lobelia Sackville-Baggins happens to be.
@timnikolaev6707
@timnikolaev6707 6 ай бұрын
"Even mordor have drinkable water" so Minas Morgul is Nestle ?
@toddfeather5760
@toddfeather5760 8 ай бұрын
I’d say that minas ithil/ morgul is the worst place as the last alliance made it to plains of gorgoroth in Mordor after many years of fighting and had massive battle
@tomaszwitkowski9507
@tomaszwitkowski9507 8 ай бұрын
Ah, yes, Lobelia's house. Makes even Witchking shiver.
@g3heathen209
@g3heathen209 2 ай бұрын
Mordor was not completely barren. The lands surrounding the inland sea of nurnen were fertile farmlands where Sauron's slaves grew food to feed his forces.
@talesoftheeldar8688
@talesoftheeldar8688 8 ай бұрын
Darth Gondalf Why does Lond Daer apper on the Middle Earth?The City was ruined and played no part in the Story.And if it appers why dont Ost-in-edhil or Framsburg apper?
@windsaw151
@windsaw151 8 ай бұрын
I really thought Nan Dungortheb would win.
@LordTelperion
@LordTelperion 5 ай бұрын
#1) The Houses of Lamentation... beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shriveled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye.
@aaexo6468
@aaexo6468 7 ай бұрын
#1 behind doors of night if whole arda is included
@ohmygordd9426
@ohmygordd9426 8 ай бұрын
bro is saving my mental health as i revise for uni entrance exams
@Peaty1992
@Peaty1992 7 ай бұрын
Are you gladius? You sound so similiar
@michaelgrey1351
@michaelgrey1351 6 ай бұрын
I'm gonna take m horse down the old forest road, gonna riiiiiide till i can't no more (because I got eaten by spiders)
@ellesartelcontar2387
@ellesartelcontar2387 8 ай бұрын
Why did Gondor not just take back minas ithil by 2002 TA they had the strength to and had not lost their king and had a huge army still and the watch on Mordor had not ceased any reason why they did not just reclaim it and why did it dwindle in importance just a question thanks ?
@Carlb328
@Carlb328 4 ай бұрын
You forgot Cirith Ungol.
@ilokivi
@ilokivi 4 ай бұрын
Sam wouldn’t, nor would Frodo. The Red Book passed to Elanor Gamgee by her father Sam probably contains an account of its location, a description and the state of its garrison.
@davidec.4021
@davidec.4021 5 ай бұрын
Lmaoooo any italian named road
@Bringmeoneofthosechickens
@Bringmeoneofthosechickens 8 ай бұрын
The home of Lobelia Sackville-Baggins should be #1
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 8 ай бұрын
Darth Gandalf, allow me to make further (eccentric) suggestions based on your geographic-sociological lessons and some conjecture: -Druwaith Iaur: This is where you go if you want to fish in solitude, only to end up with venomous darts in your backside. -The No Man´s Land East of Mordor: The East is poor in resources and cannot really be controlled due to competition over fertile land among a multitude of mostly nomadic, highly mobile peoples. Nations that pledged their loyalty to Sauron will fight each other for the prestigious positions of governance and tax collector. You may be part of a caravan that is set to bring tribute to Mordor, only to be ambushed by other Easterlings that seek to deliver said tribute themselves. Sauron holds immense influence but no effective control over these peoples, he cannot force them to coexist peacefully. Furthermore, tribes that rebel against Sauron may consider you a valid target as well. This means that travelling the region is like travelling the Arabian desert under the Ottoman empire... formally, everyone is a citizen of the same state, but in reality, anyone may decide to cut your throat while paying lip service to the higher authorities. Travelling without loot may not save you either, because the most precious resource the East has to offer cannot be left at home: slaves. You may end up on the plantations of Nurn or become a slave soldier, forced to fight other Easterlings or Gondorians. -The outermost East: Very murky, but I think it´s possible that the birthplace of all humans has been defiled and is still infested by temples in which Morgoth was worshipped
@skroowi8105
@skroowi8105 7 ай бұрын
One does not simply walk in to Mordor, so it's hardly dangerous to everyday people.
@docopoper
@docopoper 8 ай бұрын
I know it's not really a place you can go to in the third age, but as a mortal I'd say possibly the most dangerous place to try to go to is Aman.
@Hero_Of_Old
@Hero_Of_Old 4 ай бұрын
Why? You're just in the ocean and would end up back in middle earth
@jamesharmer9293
@jamesharmer9293 7 ай бұрын
Italian main roads are nothing compared to the Italian mountain roads with hairpin bends and no crash barriers. They have little catholic shrines every few kilometres, marking the spot where some maniac has gone over the edge and plummeted to their doom.
@Hello_182
@Hello_182 8 ай бұрын
lol middle earths Chernobyl. Thank you for your videos
@WickerSticksSinema
@WickerSticksSinema 6 ай бұрын
SHELOBS lair should be number 1 lol
@dams6829
@dams6829 8 ай бұрын
Whow this had 666 views when I arrived here. I guess like Bilbo I am the lucky number.
@grimgrauman7650
@grimgrauman7650 8 ай бұрын
I think the old forest should also be in this list. It is like fangorn just more evil. It also "attacked" the shire once, even if it that failed when the hobbits started cutting trees down in the hundreds😂
@skatemetrix
@skatemetrix 8 ай бұрын
Eowyn's stew. Whenever it is cooked those who are fed it have years taken off their life. When Aragorn drank the stew his years became much diminished. He died at a measly 210 when he -- the last of Numenorian royalty -- should have reached 400.
@Sofus.
@Sofus. 8 ай бұрын
@RandomRhyme
@RandomRhyme 8 ай бұрын
Beleriand out there like helleriand
@00martoneniris86
@00martoneniris86 8 ай бұрын
What if the noldor elves went to valinor after the war of wrath and destruction of beleriand
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 8 ай бұрын
Sauron wins far earlier unless the numenorians take him on themselves but they'd have to conquer the whole continent 😊
@00martoneniris86
@00martoneniris86 8 ай бұрын
True
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 8 ай бұрын
@@00martoneniris86 Just imagine a entire continent in Shadow thousands of years earlier? Numenorian warriors were superior especially when they stayed true to the Valor and eru. HOWEVER early numenorians weren't the fighters that those that came to the elves help But despite that even if the high elves left maybe they could still help numenor. The world not made round and visits From the blessed realm Still happening. Maybe the high elves could teach the numenorians while sauron can't touch them and prepare them to be their successors... 😊👍
@istari0
@istari0 8 ай бұрын
@@alanmike6883 Sauron was not a major threat until well into the 2nd Age; remember he spent the first few centuries hiding for fear the Valar were looking for him. The Noldor who remained in Middle-Earth also needed time to establish kingdoms like Lindon in the 2nd Age.
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 8 ай бұрын
@@istari0 True but without the noldor elves re-establishing kingdom's resistance would've been minor. Northmen m, wood elves and middlemen. He could Still wait centuries before making his presence known. The one vulnerability of the numenorians having to take a entire continent is their low birthrate
@00martoneniris86
@00martoneniris86 8 ай бұрын
What if ungoliant devoured morgoth and his balrogs
@kkupsky6321
@kkupsky6321 8 ай бұрын
Dude. Whos toking? Peter Jackson did that one movie about King Kong. Sorry. Jkjk. Too much pipe weed
@Hello_182
@Hello_182 8 ай бұрын
Lol hanging out with Pippin and Treebeard too much will do that to you
@kkupsky6321
@kkupsky6321 8 ай бұрын
@@Hello_182 it’s prime goodness too. I’m just sitting blowing rings. They call this one “really strong cannibis”. And yes. It’s the young Took’s fault. His mead is pretty heavy too…. Could go on all day…
@Hello_182
@Hello_182 8 ай бұрын
@@kkupsky6321 Just be careful when Gandalf shows up with his magic mushrooms, try some of those and next thing you know you’re on the back of an eagle headed to valinor
@kkupsky6321
@kkupsky6321 8 ай бұрын
@@Hello_182 aw man. I was just on a mountain with him doing that and I was like “why to the eagles always just leave us here?” My dear wife assured me it was just the greatest adventure. Still tho. Get those eagles on Uber that mountain was like 4000’
@Hello_182
@Hello_182 8 ай бұрын
@@kkupsky6321 That was just the beginning, then it was taking bong hits with eru iluvatar as we destroy other planets in the universe corrupted by darkness, the equivalent of drunkenly riding in the back of a pickup truck and smashing mailboxes with a baseball bat
@user-gc9gl2fn3u
@user-gc9gl2fn3u 8 ай бұрын
Clearly Lovelia Sackville Baggins house is by far the most ubderrated evil place west of the Misty Mountain
@talesoftheeldar8688
@talesoftheeldar8688 8 ай бұрын
Fornost/The death Mans sick and Drúwaith Iaur should have been mentioned
@GravesRWFiA
@GravesRWFiA 8 ай бұрын
not indian railroads?
@vivianbraun
@vivianbraun 7 ай бұрын
*Promosm*
@pilot8602
@pilot8602 8 ай бұрын
Utumno no?
@alanmike6883
@alanmike6883 8 ай бұрын
There's another place Darth. It's so horrible that if you go there you might never want to leave 😂👍
@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS
@orgluzman561Peace_IL_PS 8 ай бұрын
lobelia sackville baggins house was fairly dangerous place too? NO lobelia sackville-baggins house was one of the most dangerous place even more than Minas Morgul and Mordor not even sauron and the nazgul dare venture there. why do you think that in his time in the shire saruman hide in bag end and never gone close to her house and try to kill her after he kill her husband lotho
@christianadam2907
@christianadam2907 6 ай бұрын
If these dead guys from the beginning are not able to kill someone, how could this dude in the film use them to kill all the Republicans? 🤦‍♂🤷‍♂
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